Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Cameron Crum
Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people

[AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/04/the-smoke-clears-and-nokia-to-buy-alcatel-lucent/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Seriously? Wasn’t Nokia on its death bed at one time? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:30 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/04/the-smoke-clears-and-nokia-to-buy-alcatel-lucent/ - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Look for the dark horse . The deep pockets source Jaime Solorza On Apr 15, 2015 7:31 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/04/the-smoke-clears-and-nokia-to-buy-alcatel-lucent/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

[AFMUG] Cambium SPAM

2015-04-15 Thread Rory McCann
Is anyone else stuck on the hell that is Cambium's email marketing list? I've contacted Cambium (and Ray) several times regarding properly removing my email from their damn marketing list and it never happens. The unsubscribe link is apparently just there to infuriate me, as it clearly does

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Which is why we played with it. In the end, it seemed that the amount of support hassles with pppoe wasn't worth the hassle. But, this was a while ago and pppoe has grown up a lot, so my opinion is probably not valid anymore. On Apr 15, 2015 5:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: There

Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Maybe they had adjoining beds in the hospital and got a little friendly? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:47:09 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Trying again. Solar stand along sites.

2015-04-15 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Thanks for the help Bill and everyone else. Brandon From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trying again. Solar stand along sites. in that case, 3 ePTP = 30 watts 2 ePMP = 20 watts 2

Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Did you ever hear from the first landowner? I am surprised he didn’t demand you remove the foundation out of spite. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 Haha that sounds like a project we did last summer. Property line

Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Only part of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:59:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
Actually, it was Energizer batteries at Sam's club (they are actually Johnson Controls batteries). The exact same AGM battery is also now sold at AutoZone (branded Autozone). It is about $20-30 more per battery though. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
didnt microsoft buy nokia? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Look for the dark horse . The deep pockets source Jaime Solorza On Apr 15, 2015 7:31 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Fall protection for rooftop

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
What would it cost to have a steel cable type rail installed? I think that a rail is required if you will be within a certain distance from the edge. Where are my OSHA guys? Somebody has to know this rule. That being said, We've never had rails on the rooftop sites for any company that I have

Re: [AFMUG] 5ghz PMP450 canopy 30* antenna suggestion

2015-04-15 Thread Tushar Patel
On one tower we ended up putting cambium sector antenna at 45 degree, so total 8 ap’s, have to be careful on the frequency selection. It has been week and have balanced the customer on various ap’s, so far no problems. Tushar From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
pppoe has been discussed quite often as a solution for limited IP space. Could someone give a breakdown of the required components from the edge of the network to the customer and the required topology? My understanding, which is probably wrong, is a client on the network connects, the device gets

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
http://www.risebroadband.net/ T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if they have decided to keep some of the brands. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their

Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries

2015-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm going for Group31. I've seen that at 70lbs and rated for 120ah. More typical is 60lbs and 100ah. I think an 8D is something like 275 Ah. I have some sites with 2 of those in series. And some with 8 x 100 Ah. I have a fair number of NEMA boxes with strings of 26 or 33 Ah batteries in

Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24

2015-04-15 Thread David
We call those guys RADIO COWBOYS :) Usually independent or work for a utility and have OJT no class time or shadow with a PRO that knows the dos and donts of cabling of a new site. RO provides a great course on Transient Overvoltage and Lightning Protection. They go over anything at a telco

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is

[AFMUG] PTP230 Weirdness

2015-04-15 Thread Matt
Have a PTP230 link master that quit responding to IP yesterday. I can still reach the slave so link is still up and passing traffic but master does not seem to respond to anything on its IP address. Guessing I will just reboot and hope for best but has anyone else seen this? Also have issues

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Just enable the PPPoE server on the routers already at your towers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:06:36 AM Subject:

[AFMUG] dual slant code for ULS

2015-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I cannot remember this for some reason. What code do you put in for dual slant polarity antenna when registering a location in ULS ?

Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL :) On April 15, 2015 4:50:20 AM AKDT, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Maybe they had adjoining beds in the hospital and got a little friendly? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Shayne Lebrun
We’ve been begging Mikrotik for LAC/LNS functionality for years. YEARS. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers PPPoE auth is broadcast. This

Re: [AFMUG] Fall protection for rooftop

2015-04-15 Thread TJ Trout
My cirumstances are a pain in the ass, they won't even let me on the roof to survey it because it's so dangerous no one goes up there. ... The alternative they suggested instead of a non-pen on the roof? Mount a 20ft pole on the side of the building and try to install and service the antennas

Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
You don’t often get that much satisfaction. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 The tower pad was there from the 80's when the county was rebroadcasting the Denver TV stations. we put a new 50' tower on it 10 years

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
We have MTs at all sites, and simply terminate PPPoE right there ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers We have two Redback SE 600's. VERY

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
We use DHCP assign directly to customer routers. This is usually from a full /24 at the router/site. The intention is to be able to BGP that site out multiple providers in case one fails. The switches have DHCP filters/snooping etc that handle rouge. I’ve yet to implement relay, that is

[AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Matt
Have a RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN in service bit over year. http://routerboard.com/RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN Other day it just quit. Replaced the router. Found out all Ethernet ports died on it. I could still get into it with wifi though to extract config. Anyone else seen this? I am guessing its just

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We have two Redback SE 600's. VERY expensive. So a L2 path back to the core across the entire network can be concerning coming from a routed network. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: DHCP needs layer2 broadcast as well to setup Discovery … sometimes the

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Paul Stewart
Sorry to hear you are running Redback :) I never liked them much but haven’t touched one since the old SMS500 and SMS1800 days (long before Ericsson bought them). We are migrating from E320 boxes over to MX480 in my world but that’s 99% cable/dsl subs. I did build out a network at one

Re: [AFMUG] What am I missing on 430 - 450 AP?

2015-04-15 Thread David
The only thing out of whack I see is your firmware on the AP. Move it to 13.2. On 04/15/2015 10:50 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote: Techs can�t tone out the 430 SM�s running 13.2 and the 450 AP�s running 13.2.1 They register, we just can hear it tone. IS there a

Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24

2015-04-15 Thread Sean Heskett
The tower pad was there from the 80's when the county was rebroadcasting the Denver TV stations. we put a new 50' tower on it 10 years ago. So the pad was a part of the land. His parcel was a land locked 40 acre parcel that the BLM owned. He picked up the 40 acres in a land swap. He came along

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Paul Stewart
PPPOE is a solution the same as DHCP is. It provides a method to provide a dynamic (or static) IP address to a customer. IP address referring to typically a public IP address (/32 or /128). I have never seen it referenced as a solution for limited IP space to be honest… PPPOE has

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Paul Stewart
DHCP needs layer2 broadcast as well to setup Discovery … sometimes the difference is when folks are using the immediate upstream router for DHCP. Depending on hardware, the immediate upstream could be a BRAS as well :) So not sure why that would be a deal breaker really? From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Fall protection for rooftop

2015-04-15 Thread Bill Prince
In our case, it's not our building, and the building owner has his own rules. There is an anchor point on the safe wall (well away from the edge). We just clip on to it. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/15/2015 8:13 AM, Jeremy wrote: What would it cost to have a steel cable type rail

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
The labor, hassle, reputation hit, etc for trying to get 1700+ customers to change technical things on their gear would be extensive. On April 15, 2015 2:24:18 AM AKDT, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Why avoid PPPoE? Don’t want to deal with the authentication component? Just curious…

Re: [AFMUG] dual slant code for ULS

2015-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
nevermind. code is D On 4/15/2015 12:51 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I cannot remember this for some reason. What code do you put in for dual slant polarity antenna when registering a location in ULS ?

Re: [AFMUG] PTP230 Weirdness

2015-04-15 Thread Ryan Mano
All my ptp230 are running 11.2 had major problems when it was 12.x firmware like what you described below...i thought it was the syncinjector but after downgrading the firmware haven’t had any issues -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Fall protection for rooftop

2015-04-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
What kind of roof? They make a safety cable system that spans work area that workers attach to When working. Think tower safety climb but horizontal Jaime Solorza On Apr 15, 2015 10:13 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: What would it cost to have a steel cable type rail installed? I

Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries

2015-04-15 Thread Nate Burke
We use the Exide RF31D. AGM and Threaded Studs on Top. Exide has a local warehouse to us, so we pickup on Willcall, but Amazon has them for $220 w/ Prime shipping. I think on Willcall, we pay somewhere in the $180 range. On 4/15/2015 10:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'm going for Group31.

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Eric Muehleisen
PPPoE auth is broadcast. This will require a L2 path back to you PPPoE server (BRAS). This is a deal breaker for many. Overhead is minimal. There will be a some broadcast chatter on your L2 subnet. This can be filtered a number of ways and usually not a concern. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Ether channel 2 different sized links

2015-04-15 Thread Gino Villarini
Mpls TE using Telco Systems Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.commailto:samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: We currently have a Dragonwave Dual Mounted 2+0 PTP setup that is Ether channeled with Cisco switches. Currently each radio link is at 300

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
With the way their PE backers have been expanding their holdings, having trillions in the bank wouldn't surprise me. ;-) Their PE backers also have been backing Zayo, one of the most successful rollups in telecom. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] phpVirtualBox question

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Download the package, copy it over On April 15, 2015 9:35:29 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using this? I have forgotten my password and accidentally deleted recovery.php-disabled instead of renaming it (linux amateur). I cannot find a replacement file anywhere. Can

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
I may have been provided bad information but….. I know of a WISP/Security Systems provider that apparently has more customers and cash than all of us combined. It’s not JAB. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Awesome. Thanks both of you. -Ty On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/692039944254794 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr

Re: [AFMUG] Ether channel 2 different sized links

2015-04-15 Thread Sam Lambie
The dragonwave is an older HC. It does not have the capability to use port 2 as a data port. Unlike the HC+. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Duncan Scott dsc...@onlinenw.com wrote: Can the Dragonwave use mulitple ethernet ports as separate bridges? If you can configure separate bridge ports

[AFMUG] phpVirtualBox question

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
Anyone using this? I have forgotten my password and accidentally deleted recovery.php-disabled instead of renaming it (linux amateur). I cannot find a replacement file anywhere. Can someone post the file or the contents of the file so that I can fix it?

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
And apparently they are not that bad to work with... http://www.forbes.com/companies/vivint/ Regards, Chuck On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: I may have been provided bad information but….. I know of a WISP/Security

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Honestly excited about the 3011 On April 15, 2015 10:13:15 AM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I am definitely loving the rb2011. Absolutely magnificent device. Gig ports and an SFP!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Did you see the processor diagram I posted on TBW's FB page? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: af@afmug.com, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/692039944254794 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp It's a few pages down.

Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries

2015-04-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I know we have some Lifeline marine batteries and I think they are identical to the Sun Xtender batteries just a different label maybe different terminals. In the Midwest more people have boats than solar powered homes. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:07 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hmmm this one worked On April 15, 2015 9:24:59 AM AKDT, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Bump. Think my emails are getting eaten :( -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
That's correct. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:34:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rise is

Re: [AFMUG] Where do you buy AGM batteries

2015-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Exide MC31 looks like the same darn thing for the same price, but labeled as Marine/Deepcycle. I wonder if they're actually different on the inside :) We use the Exide RF31D. AGM and Threaded Studs on Top. Exide has a local warehouse to us, so we pickup on Willcall, but Amazon has them for

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I am definitely loving the rb2011. Absolutely magnificent device. Gig ports and an SFP!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I would not recommend the

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
=O !! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Honestly excited about the 3011 On April 15, 2015 10:13:15 AM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Didn't check in, doesn't count. I had Giordano's on Sunday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I forgot to tell you, I had Gino's East last Friday. It's not

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Link please!! -Ty On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Did you see the processor diagram I posted on TBW's FB page? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp It's a few pages down. April 10th is what the post was from. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Sterling when you say: I do use the switch or transceiver function to limit one MAC to the port so they only get the one public IP no matter what they plug in How and with what gear are you doing this? -Ty On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: We

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Gino Villarini
It's Krispy Kreme! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 15, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Just want to point something out real quick... A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind of massive, rolling

[AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Bump. Think my emails are getting eaten :( -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Just want to point something out real quick... A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized security forces, Ferrari's for

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
NOM NOM NOM List-Archive: http://afmug.com/pipermail/af/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:24:58 PM Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Ether channel 2 different sized links

2015-04-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Thanks Gino. This is a good read. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios/12_0s/feature/guide/TE_1208S.html On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Mpls TE using Telco Systems Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Sam Lambie

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Ty Featherling
I would not recommend the CRS. While it might have the same CPU it is NOT the same performance. It is better suited as a switch. There is one path from the ethernet switch chip to the CPU and it is a severe bottleneck if you are doing anything other than basic routing. Also, I can highly recommend

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I can always go for good Pizza. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: m. paa. - Original Message - *From:* Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I forgot to tell you, I had Gino's East last Friday. It's not Giordano's, but it's still pretty good. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Working here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 1:25 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Hmmm this one worked On April 15, 2015 9:24:59 AM AKDT, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Bump. Think my

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-04-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
m. paa. - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Test Bump. Think my emails are getting eaten :( -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] phpVirtualBox question

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
Got it. Thanks. Not sure why I missed that obvious solution. I must need more caffeine On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Download the package, copy it over On April 15, 2015 9:35:29 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using

Re: [AFMUG] 5ghz PMP450 canopy 30* antenna suggestion

2015-04-15 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
http://www.kpperformance.ca/5ghz-17-tall-18-2-dbi-40-degree-sector Gilbert On 4/14/2015 8:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 40° at 6db roll-off? What's the 3db roll-off, and what is the vertical beam width? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/14/2015 8:56 AM, Gilbert Gutierrez wrote: KP Performance

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
On the SWOS it is called Port Lock I believe. We use SWOS enabled RB260GS as transceivers for filtering, shaping and port MAC lock etc. In regular switches like the Dell 6200 series and Force10 the features are a lot more advanced and have different names. I don’t remember off hand what would

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Your ground should be at least 4 gauge, maybe even larger than that. One of the 0/x gauges is in my mind for some reason. That should bond the electrical ground with all tower and equipment grounds. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
The purpose of a ground wire is to ensure the breaker trips during a fault. Common/single point grounding is always highly recommended. I don’t have my NEC book handy, but they don’t need to be larger than a #6 and probably no larger than your #10 based on the circuit you are protecting.

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
For a 30 amp circuit? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run Your ground should be at least 4 gauge, maybe even larger than that. One of the 0/x gauges is in my mind for some reason. That

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Amperage is irrelevant, well, unless it's larger than the gauge I recommended. It's not an inside-home outlet, but bonding the ground between the electrical service and the equipment\tower. You don't want your tower ground to be better than your electrical service ground and have a surge decide

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
We usually put a breaker at the tower and then put in our own ground at the tower and bond it to electrical ground. No idea if this is the right way to do it but you definitely don't want your only ground to be 200' away, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
So, you are hanging a receptacle on a tower. 30 amp 10 gauge. You want a 4 gauge ground? I understanding bonding the tower to a common bond point with a large gauge wire. But the three wires run in some liquidtite or conduit can be smaller. How about only hot and neutral inside EMT. If

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB/2011UiAS-2HnD-IN

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
No? On April 15, 2015 10:20:59 AM AKDT, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Did you see the processor diagram I posted on TBW's FB page? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To:

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm referring to 200' between the tower and your service. Those need to be large. UP the tower? Whatever that requirement would be. 10 gauge may be fine. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Ahhh, didn’t catch that the tower was 200’ from the service. I see... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run I'm referring to 200' between the tower and your service. Those need to be large.

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I didn't think you'd be wrong. Just missed a piece of info in the original post. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:15:29 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Larry Smith
Hmmm, not an electrical person either, but quick search online says #6 gauge highly recommended for 200' run vice the #10 you mention. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed April 15 2015 14:41, Paul McCall wrote: In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am not a electrical

[AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Paul McCall
In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am not a electrical grounding expert, I lay out this scenario for review, a new tower we just built. We installed a new tower, approximately 200ft. from the service panel that feeds it. We will be on our own breaker (kinda irrelevant here).

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium SPAM

2015-04-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
That’s because everyone puts in Rory’s email address when they download Cambium spec sheets. Wait, is his email address f...@bar.com? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium SPAM I heard them plotting last year to bomb the

[AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid

2015-04-15 Thread Jeremy
We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the

Re: [AFMUG] 5ghz PMP450 canopy 30* antenna suggestion

2015-04-15 Thread Sean Heskett
well I'm glad i'm not the only one that thought that lol On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: That's got a butt-ugly pattern for something that narrow. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/15/2015 1:27 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run

2015-04-15 Thread Paul McCall
4 gauge was what I was considering. We run a polyphaser on the AC at the tower box as well, as our “receptacle” From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long

Re: [AFMUG] something new for you

2015-04-15 Thread TJ Trout
Looks great. we can use these for customer installs when they only have a pole, but that doesn't look like a very economical design... Can't be too expensive or it won't be worth the change. Now for monopole installs no problem. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] something new for you

2015-04-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
now thats cutepole dancing m-tow? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:38 PM Subject: [AFMUG] something new for you This is in the works. I am planning on pole mounts for most of the M-TOW products. The part

Re: [AFMUG] 5ghz PMP450 canopy 30* antenna suggestion

2015-04-15 Thread Bill Prince
That's got a butt-ugly pattern for something that narrow. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/15/2015 1:27 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez wrote: http://www.kpperformance.ca/5ghz-17-tall-18-2-dbi-40-degree-sector Gilbert On 4/14/2015 8:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 40° at 6db roll-off? What's the 3db

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium SPAM

2015-04-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
I heard them plotting last year to bomb the crap out of you with email. On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 AM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else stuck on the hell that is Cambium's email marketing list? I've contacted Cambium (and Ray) several times regarding properly removing my email

Re: [AFMUG] something new for you

2015-04-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m always amazed that the traffic signal people attach everything with those stainless steel bands. I assume once you own the tool, they’re quite economical. But apparently they can hold a lot of weight even in high winds. From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 5:31 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed.

Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid

2015-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Ya 447 is the mobile pages. 444 admin 445 QB 446 contracts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:30 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium SPAM

2015-04-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
They know it was you who was putting all the insulting comments in the 'fill this form out to get the most basic information about our products' form. They're now retaliating -forrest On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else stuck on the hell

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