Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
why would you do this? Im inefficient enough as it is, now youre posting reddit links, this is completely unprofessional, now im going to end up spending half the afternoon listening to the calls when I could be berating customers and completing project plans, do you feel better about yourself?

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Jeremy
That Lenny script has got to be one of the funniest things that I have ever heard! I was crying laughing at the IRS call on YouTube. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I have a 206 NPA DID which my asterisk systems answers with the "Lenny" > script on

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Between Two FRNs. From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. Daniel White Managing Director –

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Well that's handy to know!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 26, 2016 4:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Between Two FRNs. > > *From:* Daniel White > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:12 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber power draw on Netonix switch

2016-07-26 Thread Gino Villarini
ill say it depends on the freq band and the tx power output On Monday, July 25, 2016, Josh Luthman wrote: > Associated at 5320 passing some traffic > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Daniel White
If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The average telemarketer only lasts 13 to 20 minutes with Lenny but there's some calls that go 50+ minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkBQQA7yLYo On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Jeremy wrote: > That Lenny script has got to be one of the funniest things that I

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

2016-07-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Yeah, I don't go more than about 200' for that reason. Someone mentioned a DW Zahn, I thought they were pull-in only. On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Pulling conduit can result in it basically squeezing itself thin too...I > can't go more than 150-300' without

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread George Skorup
Not for small villages with almost no budget. On 7/26/2016 6:29 PM, Daniel White wrote: I’d guess Cambium would say that the 450i platform is a better fit for government projects. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies__ Cell: +1 (303)

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Mike Hammett
In Illinois I know of cities, towns and villages. There may be more that I'm forgetting. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
We have villages in Ohio. Example: http://villageofannaoh.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > In Illinois I know of cities, towns and villages. There may

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Township is more like a small county within a county. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > We have townships and communities too where things are unincorporated. >

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread George Skorup
Same here. On 7/26/2016 8:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Township is more like a small county within a county. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Chuck McCown >

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
The worst telemarketing scam aimed at small businesses I’ve ever seen was Norvergence, if you’re not familiar with them, you can Google it. At that time my customer base was mainly small businesses, and I saw a lot of them fall for this scam. And you absolutely could not convince them they

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The great thing about Lenny is that it's fully-automated telemarketer/scam time wasting, you don't even need to lift a finger to press a mute button... On my asterisk system there's two ways to reach Lenny, one is an actual DID I pay $0.85/month for when calls need to be forwarded to Lenny

[AFMUG] OT Dinner

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Had the best over-priced dinner ever tonight. I had halibut and my wife had a steak. We are at Sun Valley and expected a high price but most of the time at fancy places the high price does not equal good food. But tonight it did. Going to see Star Trek at an on resort theater in an hour.

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I am curious, if you were to create an autoattendant menu like this: press 1 for the owner press 2 for a manager press 3 for a decision maker press 4 for the person who handles the ComEd account press 5 for the person who handles the AT account etc. How many telemarketers would actually do it

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I had to get into a water tower today and my regular contact was gone, so I had to call the front desk. "Can I talk to someone in public works?" "I can take a message." "I'm at the such and such water tower and when it's convenient, could someone come let me in so I can look at your

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Yes, it's actually a series of individual audio files and a short bit of code for asterisk: http://www.crosstalksolutions.com/howto-pwn-telemarketers-with-lenny/ [Lenny] exten => talk,1,Set(i=${IF($["0${i}"="016"]?7:$[0${i}+1])}) same => n,ExecIf($[${i}=1]?MixMonitor(${UNIQUEID}.wav)) same =>

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I might actually look at implementing this. If it's a slow day at work, I'll put them on speaker while I play with the telemarketers. My favorite are the credit card people saying they can lower your rate but need your card number. I always so, "Can you hold on a minute, I need to go out to my

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
I had never heard the term "village" used in North America until recently. "Towns" and "cities" yes, but I was always under the assumption a "village" was a "town" in Europe. On Jul 26, 2016 6:40 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Not for small villages with almost no budget. > >

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread George Skorup
Village of this, Village of that. That's the legal term for most small towns in Illinois. When you think 'City of ' around here, it's usually like Aurora, Naperville, Joliet, etc. Except it's just "The City" for Chicago in podunk terms. On 7/26/2016 7:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: In Illinois I

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown
We have townships and communities too where things are unincorporated. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... We have villages in Ohio. Example: http://villageofannaoh.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Any “towns” in Illinois were incorporated before the 1872 Cities and Villages Act. Cortland, IL likes to brag that it is the 3rd largest town in Illinois. But that’s out of less than 20 remaining towns. Illinois villages have exactly 6 trustees, cities have 6 or more aldermen. But if you’re

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
"Let me transfer you to our procurement specialist, Lenny... Please be patient with him, he's new here" On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:55 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > If I happen to answer the phone and they ask for the owner, I say that I > am the owner, I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
If I happen to answer the phone and they ask for the owner, I say that I am the owner, I'm not interested, remove me from your list and hang up. That hopefully keeps them from calling back. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I give them my

[AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Has anyone ordered a 40 - 50' lightweight Rohn Monopole (or other makes for that matter)? What was the pricing like?

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Jay Weekley
Are you planning on climbing the monopole? We've got a number of wood poles but servicing them is a PITA when we have to arrange for a man lift or bucket truck. Eric Kuhnke wrote: The steel pole was at least 35% more in total, because I'd need to pay for flatbed truck freight shipping

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Somebody was in the news recently, she paid $10,000 worth of iTunes gift cards to the 'Canadian Revenue Agency'... The canuck IRS is real but they sure don't take payment in scratch cards. On Jul 26, 2016 9:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I really gained some “tough dad”

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
I give them my chuckufar...@yahoo.com address and sometimes use some Navajo phrases or Hindi to fuck with them. They usually hang up. ... On Jul 26, 2016 6:19 PM, "can...@believewireless.net" < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > I might actually look at implementing this. If it's a slow day at

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Never ordered one, but have priced them, for 50' to 55' a thicker-than-normal wood utility pole is considerably less costly. Could be different in a location that doesn't have a very large and widespread timber industry (BC, WA). On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Jason McKemie <

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown
I wonder what Nauvoo is, at one time its population was equal to Chicago. They had a charter from the state to create a university. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Any “towns” in Illinois were incorporated

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown
I really gained some “tough dad” points with my kids once. We had 8 kids and my oldest had a boyfriend visiting (who later married her and has kept her captive for 13 years in Cornwall UK along with my grandchildren, but that is a different story). All kids and boyfriend were down in the TV

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Jason McKemie
What sort of difference were you seeing? Double? Triple? More? On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I should mention that the comparison was for > > a) paying a utility pole contractor to deliver and install a treated pole, > hole boring etc, 55' of

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I should mention that the comparison was for a) paying a utility pole contractor to deliver and install a treated pole, hole boring etc, 55' of pole above ground level, set directly into the earth vs b) excavation, shoring, re-bar, concrete foundation work etc for a 55' steel pole On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Thanks for saving me the Googling. Well, then those aren't held to any geographic constraints. Townships (as mentioned) are usually a county (some states are weird and call them parishes) cut up into equal pieces. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Yes, I'll want pegs either way. It won't be fun, but should work OK. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Are you planning on climbing the monopole? We've got a number of wood > poles but servicing them is a PITA when we have to arrange for a man

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck Hogg
We're talking with a plow bladenot drill. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Unless you have bored it first and are backpulling, right? > > *From:* Chuck Hogg > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:39 PM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The steel pole was at least 35% more in total, because I'd need to pay for flatbed truck freight shipping separately and then a method of erecting it (crane), whereas the wood utility pole was sort of a package price from one local company including the pole itself and installation at the same

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > The steel pole was at least 35% more in total, because I'd need to pay for > flatbed truck freight shipping separately and then a method of erecting it > (crane), whereas the wood utility pole was sort of a

Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck McCown
I paid more for the foundation than the pole on one I did. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 9:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 40'-50' Monopoles The steel pole was at least 35% more in total, because I'd need to pay for flatbed truck freight shipping separately and

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
We have installed a number of B5's in 4.9 as backhauls for the sheriff's department. They have been working fine. Only complaint is the minimum 20Mhz channel size - a option for 5 or 10Mhz would better match the required bandwidth. Mark Amplex m...@amplex.net > On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread ccie4526
Gracias, Jaime! On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > All products *except* the B5 (A5, A5c, B5c, B5-Lite, C5 and when released > C5c). > > The nature of the tuning of the B5 dish and waveguide style design makes > it a poor efficiency match down at 4.9 GHz so

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread George Skorup
If only Cambium would let us unlock 4.9 on ePMP for the gov't projects we're doing hint hint, poke poke. On 7/26/2016 3:12 PM, Daniel White wrote: If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. Daniel White Managing

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber power draw on Netonix switch

2016-07-26 Thread Jerry Head
For those who care I did move the AF5X's to the HV ports and am still seeing spikes as high as 16.7 watts on both sides of the link. FWiW On 7/26/2016 1:18 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: ill say it depends on the freq band and the tx power output On Monday, July 25, 2016, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Daniel White
I’d guess Cambium would say that the 450i platform is a better fit for government projects. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

2016-07-26 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm talking about conduit, not the fiber itself. On Monday, July 25, 2016, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Dont pull in. Fiber is not meant for that. > > On Monday, July 25, 2016, Jason McKemie

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I have a 206 NPA DID which my asterisk systems answers with the "Lenny" script on the first ring, let me know if you want the number to forward them to. for those who haven't seen it: http://reddit.com/r/itslenny On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Jeremy wrote: > How do

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Big cost difference between cat6 UTP which can be $125/box (305 meters/1000 ft) and cat6a which is $350/box and the jacks/patch panels are 3x to 4x as expensive. Doing cat6a "sort of" guarantees it'll work at 10GBaseT, but from an ISP perspective 10GBaseT is a silly idea. Bulk 9/125 two strand

[AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Jeremy
How do you get them to stop?? I made the mistake of using them for training one time...NEVER AGAIN! I get at least one to two calls a week. I have asked repeatedly to be removed from their call list. I'm not sure what is left other than filing a complaint with the FCC for ignoring our requests

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
>public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and only pay coordination costs (no FCC fees) So when you edit/add the site information on the FCC sites you don't have to pay if it's for government use? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I had a hard time getting them to return my messages. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:08:29 AM

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-26 Thread Daniel White
Adam, To answer your question, you cannot use 4.9GHz to provide internet service, regardless of whom the end user is. Commercial traffic cannot pass over public safety systems (although a 4.9GHz user can distribute the Internet on their internal network using 4.9GHz). I’d guess if the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review

2016-07-26 Thread Super WISP
I thought the movie was pretty good. Quite a bit of action and pretty nostalgic going back to the old characters at times. Watched in Dolby ATMOS vision and sound. The theater was much bigger than some of the IMAX shows I go to. Screen was pretty big, picture quality was bright, crisp, and

Re: [AFMUG] Microcom phone calls!?!?!

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
If they're calling from the same number than just set it to a virtual ring. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jeremy wrote: > How do you get them to stop?? I made the