Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

I always figured the chamber was filled with: 1) Insurance salesmen 2) Real estate agents 3) Local politicians 4) Bureaucrats looking for a free lunch and and excuse to not work 5) Sales, Marketing and HR people looking for a free lunch and an excuse to not work From: Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

It certainly makes sense. It isn't overly difficult to do, either. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

9 times out of 10 it's water in the cable. Hopefully you get to it before it ends up all the way to the bottom and into the SS. Been through this way too many times. Never without dry gel tape cable ever again. On 10/28/2016 1:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Looks like the issue was the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

We use that one pretty much on all our SCADA projects.Holds up and we have no leakage issues... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Using cable with dry gel tape (like Shireen DC-1042), instead

[AFMUG] Lot of NEW Telrad

Lot of CPEs, base station, SIMS, antennas, all Telrad up for auction. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1098747466802644/permalink/1343901302287258/?sale_post_id=1343901302287258 Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

In my opinion, the only reason to go to one of those Chamber events is to look for sales people to hire since that is all that go to them. I think that might be what someone was suggesting when they mentioned it. If you are a one man shop I would definitely consider 1099 them just for simplicity

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

Looks like the issue was the cable...of course... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > All of mine are A.1 in the office. The truck is almost

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

What is it you're talking about? Maybe we're talking about two different things. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > That's another excellent argument for

Re: [AFMUG] Lot of NEW Telrad

no facebooking for me Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Lot of CPEs, base station, SIMS, antennas, all Telrad up for auction. > > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1098747466802644/ >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

Using cable with dry gel tape (like Shireen DC-1042), instead of cable with gel, so you don't have goo leaking out all over the place gumming up the works. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > What is it you're talking about? Maybe we're talking

[AFMUG] For Sale

I still have the following for sale. All reasonable offers will be accepted. Buyer responsible for shipping costs. 41 12dB 2.4 Ghz ePMP WBMFG Reflector Dish 1 Allot NetEnforcer AC-1440 1 Allot NetEnforcer Bypass You can view product specifications at

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

The issue was actually the gel in the cable, I think. Wiped it clean and squeezed some out. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM, George Skorup wrote: > 9 times out of 10 it's water

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

That's another excellent argument for dry gel tape... On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The issue was actually the gel in the cable, I think. Wiped it clean and > squeezed some out. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

Rev C are currently in production with Rev D within a month. Rev C has the improved RF interference bypass and the POE sync glitch absorber. The Rev D is a mechanical change only. 100% surface mount. If you think one of our surge suppressors is possibly suspect in any link issues, we will

Re: [AFMUG] Lot of NEW Telrad

I don't sign in to facebook. Hard rule. Sorry. bp On 10/28/2016 12:20 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Lot of CPEs, base station, SIMS, antennas, all Telrad up for auction.

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Joe, would you agree that you must have a killer hosted PBX product in your portfolio if you’re going to target businesses? I find many small businesses want phone and Internet bundled, in fact saving money on phone service or replacing an outdated phone system may actually be what

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

*nods* I've picked up three CCR type deals in the past month. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Joe Falaschi" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

I don't know if Joe would agree but I would. I don't think you have to offer it but it sure works better with it. I thought when we started selling VoIP we would get a bunch of VoIP customers from our ISP. Actually we got a bunch of new ISP customers from our new VoIP business. Customers that

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

It seems anti-Cambium not to have that sync work 100%. And anything less than 100% these days and the customers will notice. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Matt wrote: >> Not 100% impossible. It's worked for us if the

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Well, the mayor and city council said it didn’t work so well. This was 4 years ago or so. I was there multiple times by invitation. From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber Not sure why anyone would say the

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Two other things: You/someone should figure out your buyer personas. For us we sell very little Internet Service to retail organizations - especially directly. They all seem to have corporate policies and decisions. The vast majority of our retail sales come in via the CCRs of the world.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

Looks like IR light reflecting off a table leg. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:07 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras These two snapshots I just took on my phone through

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

One man show. :-) -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: af@afmug.com Sent: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:55:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

One lights on... They checked this morning On Oct 28, 2016 10:22 AM, "Chris Wright" wrote: > Looks like IR light reflecting off a table leg. > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

> Not 100% impossible. It's worked for us if the master PTP450 is co-located > with the PMP450 APs. We set the DL % to the same (we're using 65% DL where > we're doing this). > > The big problem is the auto-ranging that the PTP450 does, and there's not > much you can do about it. Once it's synced

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

You might just have to accept that an ant can't move a rubber tree plant. Before getting into wireless, my ISP sold T1 and ISDN to small businesses primarily in office parks. Like you, I came up via the technical side, and am not a born salesman. I tried direct sales, and had no success until

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Others have already given you some good points. Getting partners in any definition of the term, IT consultants, building managers, PBX installers, etc is probably a good intermediate step. If you get to the point where you need an employee to be on the payroll, I think you’re going to need to

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Most of what Chuck says is true about the first phase of UTOPIA. It was a disaster. Some of it was their fault, some of it wasn't. For example, AT was actually the first service provider on UTOPIA and had an initial exclusivity period. One day the higher-ups at AT decided to abandon that part

Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft Store DNS

So far, it looks like storeedgefd.dsx.mp.microsoft.com is a good one to work with. I know that it stops the store from loading, but I'm not yet sure if it stops the store from updating. Hopefully it doesn't update via other methods. -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

It is all armchair quarterbacking at this point. It went wrong at its inception. A guy named Arthur Brady with Telecom Choices played the part of Harold Hill in the Music Man. He got paid for the band instruments and blew out of town. So, the cities were sold a bill of goods in my opinion.

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

Yep... if the interference wasn't in the same direction as the customer, beam steering would help you, but I don't see that it'd do much in this case. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 3:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > a blind AP is a blind AP no matter how you cut it,

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

Ok, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some sort of RF Magic contained within the EPMP2000. On 10/28/2016 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yep... if the interference wasn't in the same direction as the customer, beam steering would help you, but I don't see that it'd do much in this

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

Tickets are like a grand... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 6:07 PM, wrote: > Pretty cool if they can sweep the next three and win at home. Wish I > lived close enough to (relatively

[AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

So the EPMP2000 with beam steering on the upstream side. If you have a customer that is in line with the source of the Interference, they're still hosed right? The AP still wont' be able to hear them over the noise. I have a EPMP sector with a single customer on it and the AP is running

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

BUT... the filter in the ePMP2000 may help you find a clean enough slice of spectrum to make the customer work. On 10/28/2016 3:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote: Ok, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some sort of RF Magic contained within the EPMP2000. On 10/28/2016 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

As far as the first bond, the cities are covering it for now. We could be contributing some of our net revenue to decrease the burden, but because the system is only completely built in all of the cities, we are investing that money towards the completion of the project. When the project is

[AFMUG] OT Cubs

Pretty cool if they can sweep the next three and win at home. Wish I lived close enough to (relatively cheaply) go to one of the games.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

bbdge - no more headaches On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > Rev C are currently in production with Rev D within a month. > Rev C has the improved RF interference bypass and the POE sync glitch > absorber. > > The Rev D is a mechanical change only. 100% surface mount. >

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Chuck wrote: > They honestly expected Qwest and Comcast to ride their network. What alternate reality do these people live in? > I personally am philosophically opposed to governments providing goods or > services that private companies can do. Obviously streets are better done > by

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

Whoops. Missed that important detail. A -50 dBm noise floor is pretty much a impossible situation. bp On 10/28/2016 1:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: a blind AP is a blind AP no matter how you cut it, if the interference is coming in from the same direction

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

I was wondering the same thing. I am guessing the cities are eating it. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 2:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber Thank you Roger for that detailed write up. What happened to the first

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

a blind AP is a blind AP no matter how you cut it, if the interference is coming in from the same direction as the sm, not alot you can do. with -50 floor that sector is effectively not there. can you go lower with the sector and hope ground clutter will mitigate the campus interference to a point

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

Excellent point. If you have a big sector, you won't be able to distinguish where the noise is coming from. If you have beam steering, you may be able to block out different frequencies in different directions. The real trick would be the ability to use frequency A in sub-sector A, and

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

While I totally agree that Qwest and Comcast were never going to ride Utopia, I debated Pete Ashdown on KUER about this very issue. He was constantly claiming that if you build it they will come. He tried to liken Utopia to the airports. We only need one and if everyone uses it then it

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

I'm not in a position to offer a base pay that would do anything other than offend. If they want to hook up everyone in a strip mall, paying $100 each, I'm fine with that. Each deal is $100, but there's seven separate deals, that's real money whereas if I discourage them from lower deals, they

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

That's where we're at, option 4. By default, we NAT everyone for v4. Those who call and complain about issues with the NAT (gaming, VoIP maybe, VPN sometimes), we move them to a dynamic routable v4 address. We're all PPPoE so this change is simple: change it in RADIUS,

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Wow. Scarry! Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] IPV6 deploymernt

yes Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

I'd love to wire up whole strip malls to and have had this conversation with a potential sales guy - but how do you get access? is there one management company or one land owner you have to get through? Once you wire the place do you own your own infrastructure? ( no ) , can you get a

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

Should be bumping up to the licensed radios for your backhauls anyways .. just a FYI. :) Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequiency

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

"Sterling Jacobson" writes: > I like the idea of the bond, but I don’t like the idea of a split > responsibility/ISP where one entity owns > the fiber and others bill and provide service over it. This is how local loop unbundling works. Would you rather the city both own and operate the

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Chuck McCown wrote: > Utopia tried that method in Brigham City and it didn't work so well (for a > variety of reasons). Did UTOPIA have any option? Municipalities in Utah are barred from providing retail services. Where do you think they went wrong? Jared

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

> Paul at believewireless wrote: >> Seems like a race to the bottom on pricing. Agreed. It can create an atmosphere for race to the bottom pricing. With little to no barrier to entry anyone can come into the market undercut the existing providers with cheap land grab tactics. These providers

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Can you tell us more about this split and financial engineering? Or perhaps point to other resources where I can learn some more? You say the money is better spent on private operations. How do you envision this should work? A public private partnership or how should Utopia have doled out the

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Paul at believewireless wrote: > Seems like a race to the bottom on pricing. Competition will do that to you. What do you see as the preferred alternative? > I'm sure spammers and DCMA violators will love it!   How do you figure the above applies? Jared

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

Is cheyenne mountain taken yet? If not, I'll take that one ;) Might need some help with the takeover though On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I’ll take the Smithsonian Museum of American History and the Air and Space > Museum... > Perhaps one of

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Rob Genovesi wrote: > I despise over regulation but it could create a large enough barrier > to entry that only serious operators would enter the market and that > might prevent race to the bottom, at least for a little while. How do you define a serious operator and who gets to set the rules?

Re: [AFMUG] IPV6 deploymernt

It appears S3 doesn't not support V6 while Route53, the DNS does. So..kind of getting there. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:05 AM Dennis Burgess wrote: > yes > > > > > > *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant * > > MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

That camera I posted is PTZ over the POE and also has a heater so the lens doesn't fog up. Draws about 15-20 watts on the POE. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:31 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > One of my tower owners has been playing with this camera - > >

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

We do. Just thought I would try PTP in a small instance Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 28, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > Why no use a 900 ap and sm? > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > > > Gino Villarini > > President >

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

It sounds like that $20 you bring in is yours for support and upstream, the rest is between the city and the customer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser"

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Having actually paid the guy $10k a month for doing nothing and watching for a year as he answered phone calls we would have gotten the customer from anyway I would think when it actually happens you might feel differently. You can pay someone $13 to $15 per hour to do inside sales. IMHO you pay

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Can a WISP like us even compete in the city of Ammon? I assume that this fiber all goes to some sort of Central Office building and any carrier that wants to come into town can then run a line into this building and sell on the FTTH plant. So in reality the only providers that can compete is

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Mike, you could try attending the Chamber of Commerce meetings, but that’s a long term approach, won’t reach a lot of the potential customers, and assumes the owner is a born salesperson which you say you aren’t. I’d take the approach of paying commissions to someone who is already in your

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

Create a $99.95/month "Gamer" package and tell the gamers that complain that to fix their NAT they need to upgrade to the gamer package and then put them on a public IP once they go to that package. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote: > That's

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

I think that is a great idea Ken. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:50 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Mike, you could try attending the Chamber of Commerce meetings, but > that’s a long term approach, won’t reach a lot of the potential customers, > and assumes the owner is a born salesperson

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

We have some wireless sites in "rural alabama" using ospf rings. The middle, occasionally, gets the short straw and we've had to make sure there is enough bandwidth across the ring to make sure the middle doesn't suffer a speed loss. Is there enough bandwidth on your ring to prevent this

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

Why no use a 900 ap and sm? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Jon Langeler

[AFMUG] Finding Sales People

What's the best way to get a B2B sales guy? That's the overall point, but digging in deeper, what should I be asking for? I'm very tech oriented, very little sales. I'm needing someone that can do it on their own without guidance from me on what I want them to do. To me, sales sounds more like

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

yeah pretty much i think the search results are sometimes great and other times not so great. I find localized regional searches are a major weak point of Google and others …. Google though in the past couple of years has really stepped this up though …. a lot, at least in North America In

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

One of my tower owners has been playing with this camera - http://www.ebay.com/itm/401101692425?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT says it will even do PTZ over the POE. It's on my "play with" list, if i ever get to my play with list - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

No.. No lights at all. I will go by later and check On Oct 28, 2016 10:54 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > One lights on... They checked this morning > > On Oct 28, 2016 10:22 AM, "Chris Wright" wrote: > >> Looks like IR light reflecting off a

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

Lol I think that's the cable with issues... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 28, 2016 3:55 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > bbdge - no more headaches > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:23 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

bbdne has gel and crummy coated shield, bbdge has copper clad and paste, the paste doesnt run, bbdne killed alot of power supplies on our network, turns out running cable designed to be horizontally in a vertical run is bad On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Thank you Roger for that detailed write up. What happened to the first phase bond? Jared     Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 at 8:37 PM From: "Roger Timmerman" To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber Most of what Chuck says is true about the first phase of

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

The cities don't actually eat it. They absorb it, and the citizens eat it (one way or the other). TANSTAFL bp On 10/28/2016 1:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I was wondering the same thing. I am guessing the cities are eating it. -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

From: fiber...@mail.com by government. Arguably water and sewer. I have lived in cities with two power companies. But all the rest should be done by commercial providers. Why do you draw the line at the utilities and the infrastructure you listed? What makes them so special? Duplication

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical EPMP2000 Question

Yeah, true... it certainly wouldn't hurt. Also, if all of the noise isn't actually coming from the same location, you could potentially find a clean channel using beam steering. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:02 PM, George Skorup wrote: > BUT... the filter in the ePMP2000 may help

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

A couple of comments below from my perspective... -Roger On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 2:17 PM, wrote: > Chuck wrote: > > They honestly expected Qwest and Comcast to ride their network. > What alternate reality do these people live in? > *That was never likely to happen because

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Having a voice solution definitely helps - it is the reason we started offering voice. It helps us close more of the sub $200/mo best effort accounts. With the larger DIA circuits, the companies generally have an internal IT department, not managed service provider, and the voice solution is

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

Hmmm, tempting, first class airfare. Suite at the Peninsula Hotel... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs I'll buy your airline tickets + hotel if you buy us tickets. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

That ain't no Cubs tickets Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 28, 2016 6:28 PM, wrote: > You are cool with a lawn chair on a nearby roof, right? > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2016 4:27

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

Maybe I don't think it's that bad because it's been added incrementally for me. I've been doing voice since 2003, so a year longer than my WISP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Joe

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

*YOU* suck. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 5:23:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

I had tickets to take my son to a baseball game that got cancelled during the MLB strike around 20 years ago. Baseball has been dead to me ever since. (Not that it’s much of a spectator sport anyway, marginally better than golf, a step less exciting than curling.) From: Af

[AFMUG] google dns

Ok, I have some happy IDS components that seem to stopping google dns from completing a lookup to our website. How can I find out what ips are being blocked from making the trip? I am not sure a traceroute is going to do it. I dont have an issue getting to google. google-dns is having an

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

I may be biased, but I always have a good time when we go up to watch the (SF) baseball Giants. Decent tickets are not too expensive, and it's a great family outing. Plus the ballpark is beautiful with lots of great views of San Francisco Bay. bp On 10/28/2016

Re: [AFMUG] google dns

Most IDS systems have logs that you could search through and find the look up … should give you a clue … is that what you’re asking? > On Oct 28, 2016, at 7:28 PM, David Milholen wrote: > > Ok, > I have some happy IDS components that seem to stopping google dns from >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

Yeah, don’t want spend another $500+ for airline tickets plus hotel. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs Tickets are like a grand... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

(relatively cheaply) I think the news is reporting >$2k a ticket for standing room. Bars around Wrigleyville were charging $250/person cover when it wasn't even a home game. On 10/28/2016 5:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Pretty cool if they can sweep the next three and win at home. Wish I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

I'll buy your airline tickets + hotel if you buy us tickets. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 6:11 PM, wrote: > Yeah, don’t want spend another $500+ for airline tickets plus hotel. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

i heard much higher. First game was around $3000, 2nd, 3rd and so on went up from there. One hundred and eight years. Man o man. bp On 10/28/2016 3:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Tickets are like a grand... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] Finding Sales People

The regulatory stuff is mainly just a pain in the butt, $30K/yr sounds high to justify filling out some forms and paying some fees. But it’s one thing to provide residential voice, it’s another to provide a full featured business PBX service with a slick web interface and to support it with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

I know. I don't even care for baseball. I just like to piss off the northsiders. On 10/28/2016 5:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: *YOU* suck. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

A bit boring on TV for sure. But nice pace at the ballpark if you are there with friends. Sit, visit, eat, watch a play now and then. Better than fishing I think. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 5:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs I had tickets to take my

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

Cubs suck. On 10/28/2016 5:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Pretty cool if they can sweep the next three and win at home. Wish I lived close enough to (relatively cheaply) go to one of the games.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

Pretty funny, WGN radio sent their 2 staff millennials who both live at home with their parents out to Cleveland to cover the games. They keep asking “are the kids OK?” Anyway, the kids report no price gouging in Cleveland, and that many Cubs fans are flying to Cleveland to watch because they

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs

You are cool with a lawn chair on a nearby roof, right? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cubs Send me those tickets first and we'll see what happens =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

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Send me those tickets first and we'll see what happens =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > Hmmm, tempting, first class airfare. > Suite at the Peninsula Hotel... > > >

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The technical aspect of providing voice isn’t difficult. The regulatory aspect of voice is no joke though. I wouldn’t do it unless I thought I could do at least 30k/year in voice revenue, or related Internet service deals lost because I didn’t offer it. Joe > On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM,

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