[AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
For those eagerly waiting for the RackMount Injector The engineering validations I mentioned before have been completed. I discovered one minor board error, which has been corrected. I also took advantage of the additional board revision to make another minor circuit revision which will

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
is this mix and match for the 4 slots? On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > For those eagerly waiting for the RackMount Injector > > The engineering validations I mentioned before have been completed. I > discovered one minor

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yes. Currently there is only one board type for the slots... You will be able to order it with any number of slots filled - the rest will have blanks put in place. It is designed so end users can add, remove or swap each board. The current board is essentially our current powerinjector+sync in

[AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Looking at linkplanner kmz in updated google earth on a problematic link we have there are now 3 windmills in the path (300 foot windmills if i recall correctly) but theyre at 11,13, and 15 miles out. The 11 is centerline and the other two are maybe 50-100 feet off the centerline, per google maps

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Carl Peterson
I've been trying to avoid the OT politics on the afmug list but this is such bullshit that I just can't leave it alone anymore. What caused chaos was a impossibly stupid implementation of a poorly thought out policy. Want to restrict visas and green cards in the future? Fine. I disagree with

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Not sure this is the top security job, perhaps top security advisor. Heads of the CIA, DIA, NSA, FBI and Joint Chiefs are the true top security jobs. But if Banning serves just to collect the scuttlebutt from the true experts, he may serve a purpose. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday,

[AFMUG] more iot lols

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
http://gizmodo.com/hackers-locked-every-room-in-this-hotel-until-a-bitcoin-1791769502 why do companies connect access systems to insecure networks, why? We just installed another connection at a motel because they give guests unrestricted access to the internet (they account for 30-40% of our

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
New installations will be biased toward new APs, so Cambium sync may be a critical feature. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:30 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector

Re: [AFMUG] B11, TDMA, and TCP

2017-01-30 Thread Chris Wright
In my case, even 10dB output on both sides is still too hot. Is the 10dB minimum power output a hardware limitation or is it possible you can throw that on the feature requests pile? Thanks, Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Trout

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Cambium sync is going to happen... but I didn't want to hold this injector any longer. My choice was to ship a functional, solid, working injector now which does everything but cambium sync, or hold it for a few more months. At some point I just have to ship something, instead of waiting until

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
any way to shove existing sync product boards in there? On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Yes. Currently there is only one board type for the slots... You will be > able to order it with any number of slots filled - the rest will

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Of course Dumbo Trumpshit didn't put a ban on Saudi Arabia where 911 attackers came fromWonder if its because he has beautiful golf courses there Then puts Banning in top security job and demotes guys that actually have knowledge...All based on his political views On Jan 29, 2017 6:26 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I do see the pulsing in real time refresh, 5-7 db variance watching it. Until today i didnt know the windmills were erected that close to the path. I may have to drive out to them and get on the radios remotely to see if I can correlate anything in real time 17 miles is too long of a link anyway

Re: [AFMUG] OT - schoolbus fire in Utah ...

2017-01-30 Thread Jeremy
This is ten years ago, but the budgets are still inadequate and most of these same schools still don't have AC. http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/education/ci_6767099 On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > My Utah grade school teacher daughter is here at

Re: [AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
I usually figure a couple dB blip per wind turbine, worst case is when they all line up worst case. Strangely they will affect the signal even when slightly off the path. If you have audible alignment you can hear the signal pulsing. If this path is already marginal on distance, I would be

Re: [AFMUG] Can an Edgepoint R6 power an AF5x?

2017-01-30 Thread Nate Burke
But will the Edgepoint be able to provide enough power on the port? I know that it's taxing it running the EPMP pre-boot heater. On 1/29/2017 8:57 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You can't use a long cable for it, as it will only provide power on 2 pair instead of 4 pair. On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
My wife is a Canadian citizen. At least for another year or two. So we've been through the whole move to the states thing on a visa. I totally agree with you. It would be one thing to say "we're not going to issue any more visas to these countries". I might even be able to go along with

Re: [AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills

2017-01-30 Thread Adam Moffett
It would be interesting to have a realtime spectrum analyzer and see what that pulsing looks like. -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/30/2017 11:16:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills I usually figure a couple dB

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, one “good” thing that could possibly come from it is that the mess it created might “might” inform the commander-in-orange of how huge the law of unintended consequences is when dealing with the business of the nation. If he really is as smart as his supporters claim, he should be able

Re: [AFMUG] more iot lols

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
But everything’s more secure in the cloud, right? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] more iot lols

[AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Fake news, alternative facts, now we have airport chaos caused by Chuck Schumer's "fake tears": http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/30/trump-takes-aim-at-sen-schumer-s- tears-in-new-defense-refugee-order.html I didn't know his tears were so powerful. Hey Chuck, can you cry me up a new

Re: [AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
First fresnel zone is 57 feed in diameter at 15 miles. How long is the path? You need a 60% blockage or more of the first fresnel zone to really kill you. So would a blade be that wide? Would a blade be directly in the fresnel zone both in altitude and azimuth? From: That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Assuming that Mr. Dumbfuck can learn might be asking too much of him.He will be groping for an answer or nearby pussy... On Jan 30, 2017 9:56 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: My wife is a Canadian citizen. At least for another year or two. So we've been

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Karl Rove was not allowed in Bush's meetings with the NSC. Imagine removing the military and intelligence organizations from the national security council and then putting Karl Rove in as a required member in their places in a Bush administration. That's basically what we are looking at here. On

[AFMUG] OT: Trump

2017-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
prefix your off topic messages with "OT:" so we can filter them. Thank you very much. Back to your normal programming. bp On 1/30/2017 9:49 AM, Dev wrote: I don’t care either way about Trump on this list unless he’s working on signal loss on a path, can you all

[AFMUG] Trump

2017-01-30 Thread Dev
I don’t care either way about Trump on this list unless he’s working on signal loss on a path, can you all please take these discussions elsewhere?

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
shipping? On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Zach Underwood wrote: > I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling > the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I > think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
12V x 78aH =936 watt hour x 36= 33693 watt hours of battery. I feel 15 cents per watt hour is a good deal. That is a $5K battery. So if it is any good, get it quick before someone else does. From: Zach Underwood Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Zach Underwood
The ad said that the UPS was in service until the end of 2016. The batteries are now on a wooden pallet in a warehouse. I have emailed the buyer to see if he would sell just the batteries, right now the ad includes a 100KVA 120/208V UPS. I have no need for the UPS but would LOVE to get the

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff out of the guy On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
As i understand it, advisors have no policy making role, nor do they have any authority beyond advising. I take advice from my dad on things here at work quite often, as far as building stuff out.. might call him my top advisor... utter madness though, he has no authority here, but in assbackward

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
it always feels like christmas just before packetflux is launching something, only santa is drunk, so youre not completely sure what youre going to get, you just know it will be good On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Everyone that got the new rev products

[AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Zach Underwood
I am planning a home solar setup and came across someone that is selling the batteries from a 3 Phase UPS. There are 36x ups12-300mr(12v at 78AH) I think that I could get the whole lot for ~$600. the batteries have a date of manufacture of 2014. Is this a good deal. -- Zach Underwood

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
The way they talked about it this morning (I was listening to CBS), all those people now report to Bannon. This report from the BBC is similar: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38787241 bp On 1/30/2017

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular repeaters. Wilson vs Surecall vs others?

2017-01-30 Thread Keefe John
I've had great luck with Wilson. On 1/30/2017 11:57 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: I have to receive from far off and repeat to a small area <900 square feet! Any opinions? Any supplier suggestions? Thanks very much. ryan

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular repeaters. Wilson vs Surecall vs others?

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Surecall works On Jan 30, 2017 10:57 AM, "Ryan Spott" wrote: > I have to receive from far off and repeat to a small area <900 square feet! > > > Any opinions? Any supplier suggestions? > > Thanks very much. > > ryan >

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular repeaters. Wilson vs Surecall vs others?

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
wilson has always worked well for us. Their support is outstanding and their RMA process is clean, prices are pretty good too. I would like managment/monitoring interface, just because i like those things. for smaller locations I would be hard pressed to even look at anything else On Mon, Jan 30,

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Zach Underwood
No they are local only would need to rent a uhaul to pick them up. The wight would be about 2,100lb. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > 12V x 78aH =936 watt hour x 36= 33693 watt hours of battery. > > I feel 15 cents per watt hour is a good deal. > That is a

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
That is pretty old product. Current product is Rev D. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update If I order a 800-GIGE-APC-HV it should have improvements for sync to work with

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I would venture that is a very calculated risk. slash burn rebuild What will happen, that has historically not happened, as is the case with most of what your orange menace has done thus far, A games will be forced Up until this point, demands for strenuous and efficient vetting have been met with

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Adam Moffett
You do have a point. People are drawing big conclusions based on small amounts of information. I'd say we should just let this drop, but I'm pretty sure Jamie will bring it back up tomorrow morning and every morning thereafter for the next 4 years. -- Original Message -- From: "That

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
So these are C brand AGM batteries? What have they been doing since 2014? Sitting on a pallet? Being float charged? In service in said 3 Phase UPS? Depending on shipping cost, it sounds like a remarkable deal, but not if they have been charged and discharged for 2-3 years worth of power

Re: [AFMUG] Can an Edgepoint R6 power an AF5x?

2017-01-30 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Yes. I have a EP-R6 powering: 1 - AF5X 1 - NanoStation M5 1 - Rocket M5 The R6 is 100' up a tower being powered by the 24V power supply that comes with the EP-R6. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Not to split hairs, but naturally his political choices are based on his political views. That would be true of anyone. Maybe you meant something else. -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 1/30/2017 11:53:44

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
I'm betting he won't be able to do that. Anyone want to bet against me? bp On 1/30/2017 8:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Well, one “good” thing that could possibly come from it is that the mess it created might “might” inform the commander-in-orange of how huge the

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The military and intelligence organizations were removed from the national security council? when. The last update was something about presence when applicable, now theyre just fully removed? madness I tell you, madness. I heard that in his spare time, trump waterboards melania because melania

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Matt
If I order a 800-GIGE-APC-HV it should have improvements for sync to work with gigabit? We exclusively use shielded cable outdoors. The ones I have tried say GigEAPC Rev A.1 with magic marker HV. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Everyone that got the

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Good point, if they have been stone dead and sitting outside all this time they are scrap metal. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal? So these are C brand AGM batteries? What have they been doing since 2014?

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Matt
Has the issue with sync-injector standard sync -> GIGE-APC-HV -> 250ft cat-5 -> PMP450i and gigabit ethernet link been fixed somehow? I have some PTP450i's I need bit more then 100mbps on. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Everyone that got the new rev products reported good results. I was able to replicate it in the lab. However if the grounds are noisy nothing is going to fix it. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Trumpology On Jan 30, 2017 10:28 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: Not to split hairs, but naturally his political choices are based on his political views. That would be true of anyone. Maybe you meant something else. -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza"

[AFMUG] Cellular repeaters. Wilson vs Surecall vs others?

2017-01-30 Thread Ryan Spott
I have to receive from far off and repeat to a small area <900 square feet! Any opinions? Any supplier suggestions? Thanks very much. ryan

[AFMUG] Does anyone know which wholesal provider has NEC

2017-01-30 Thread Rory Conaway
Does anyone know who the NEC wholesale providers are? Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "Baseball - we do not stop playing because we

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
I’ll take the UPS if you don’t want it. From: Zach Underwood Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal? The ad said that the UPS was in service until the end of 2016. The batteries are now on a wooden pallet in a warehouse. I have

Re: [AFMUG] Trump

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Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
You'd think. It would solve problems for us. bp On 1/30/2017 12:52 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Seems like they ought to be able to make that work. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 1:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000 What

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
He didn’t change for her. He changed and then met her. As a matter of fact, if he can prove his linage to Aaron, he can claim the office of Bishop by birthright in the Mormon Church. That is something only available to Jews. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:36 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
its brave new world On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > He didn’t change for her. He changed and then met her. > > As a matter of fact, if he can prove his linage to Aaron, he can claim the > office of Bishop by birthright in the Mormon Church. > That is

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread George Skorup
450 is what I'd do. But... ePMP 2000 vs 1000 at the AP is what you should do because of the Tx/Rx filter. ePMP syncs with FSK, but for whatever reason, it's not precise enough yet (ever?) to play nice with the 430/450. On 1/30/2017 1:46 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: We've not seen any performance

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
I “jew” people down all the time. Most of the the time I don’t tell them I am “jewing” them down. But that is what I am doing. One old Jew, Marvin, I tell him I am gonna jew him down. Sometimes he jews me down. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:23 PM To: Animal Farm

[AFMUG] Cool but a little pricey

2017-01-30 Thread Cameron Crum
For those really tough wall fish jobs... https://walabot.com/store/products/walabot-diy-pack.html?utm_source=LaL_desktop_with_bid_conversion_desktop__medium=Facebook+ads_campaign=Walabot+DIY

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
What you'd really want to do with the 450, is go from the 430->450M. Unfortunately, you will have to go to the vanilla 450 first because the 450M won't play with 430 SMs. bp On 1/30/2017 12:19 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: One advantage of going to 450 is that it

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Seems like they ought to be able to make that work. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000 What you'd really want to do with the 450, is go from the 430->450M. Unfortunately, you will have to go to the vanilla 450 first

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Mine certainly do. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000 I'm wrong on this. The 430s will work with 450i. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
I'm trying to visualize how this could happen.. bp On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have an alt-right jew/mormon son

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
more common than you think... as long as you think On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I'm trying to visualize how this could happen.. > > > bp > > > > On 1/30/2017 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> I have an alt-right

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hum... Interesting,I personally would not change my religious beliefs for marriage or anything elseI know lots change theirs as often as they change bed sheetsNever heard of a Jewish MormonGo figure... On Jan 30, 2017 2:26 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
I have no problem with extreme vetting of people from terrorists states. I also have no problem in asking someone their religion upon entering and if they answer Muslim, asking a few extra questions. It is the ham fisted implementation that I have a problem with. If you have a visa or green

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
A Jewish Lawyer, married my daughter, and converted to the Mormon Church before doing so. He works in the Wyoming government and has drunk deeply at the well of all things Trump. Makes for an interesting dynamic with one of my other daughters that lives in England with her liberal Mormon

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Sam Morris
The other thing to keep in mind here too is that if you listen to the lamestream media you'd think the entire country was against President Trump's immigration executive order. It's not. More people approve of it than disapprove. When I was in the gym this morning, I saw on the Corrupt News

[AFMUG] Force10 Masters

2017-01-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Are there, by chance, any Force10 networking switch masters out there? Someone who really, really knows there way around the old Force10 switches, particularly the S4810P. The NON-DELL verion of the hardware.

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah IMO the FSK PMP100 is still very hard to beat for long range shots. Not that a 430/450 doesn't work at long range, but the lower mod level hurts the sector bad. If there are a bunch of 10-15 mile shots, you might want to keep an FSK AP around just to keep those people on without hurting

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Is it okay to jew people down if they're jews? or if you're a jew? :P And does it offend actual jews to call it jewing, or just other people? On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I “jew” people down all the time. Most of the the time I don’t tell them > I am

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
IIRC, the 430 SMs don't play with the 450i APs either. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > What you'd really want to do with the 450, is go

Re: [AFMUG] Trump

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
FYI, the current order of succession is: Mike Pence Paul Ryan Orrin Hatch ... James Mattis ... John Kelly The ... would be a lot clearer if Trump's cabinet nominees were confirmed. I guess Democratic acting dept heads are eligible, but President Tom Shannon doesn't sound right. More likely

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
You did, heck I can help you double your money and you don’t have to do anything! From: Zach Underwood Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal? talked with the selling and I am going to look at it tonight. Here is the deal 1.

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
most of the jews i know tell me never to jew them, not because its offensive, but because of the catastrophic loss i would see, I just call them a you people and pay full price On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Is it okay to jew people down if they're

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
I have an alt-right jew/mormon son in law. I am pretty sure you cannot offend him with a nuclear bomb. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 1:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal? most of the jews i know tell me never to jew them, not

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Zach Underwood
talked with the selling and I am going to look at it tonight. Here is the deal 1. battery cabinet with high amp dc fuse/disconnect 2. all of the jumper cables 3. 36x battery The seller said that the batteries was installed in about 2015 for a tv station and last last year they upgraded to a

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
430 SMs will keep you from going past 450i at the AP end, starting with 450m. The path up to 450i is pretty solid, obviously single pol though. If you are OK upgrading the higher plan subs to 450 SMs and keeping the lower plan subs on 430, this might be OK. 100 FSK gear, wow, that’s like

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
5.7 From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000 All in 5GHz? Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Mathew Howard
One advantage of going to 450 is that it should be an easier upgrade path from 430, since you can run those SMs for awhile even if you don't plan on keeping any of the 430 running permanently... but that's only really a big deal if there's a lot of 430 SMs already deployed. I think a lot of it

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wow...You did not just go there ? "Jew" .Damn!! On Jan 30, 2017 11:24 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > recycling value may halve your costs if theyre no good, its a good risk > probably. while youre picking them up you can probably jew some other stuff > out

Re: [AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
I'm wrong on this. The 430s will work with 450i. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > IIRC, the 430 SMs don't play with the 450i APs

[AFMUG] e pmp 1000

2017-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
A wisp wants me to buy them out but the gear is old. Lots of 100 fsk gear and some 430. 430 gear is getting cheap and will pretty much do the job. A move to 450 can reuse the 430 sm radios. But the price on the epmp1000 is not too bad. Thinking about it. Probably will not do anything.

Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's first week in office

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
If I am not too busy...ha On Jan 30, 2017 11:19 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > You do have a point. People are drawing big conclusions based on small > amounts of information. > I'd say we should just let this drop, but I'm pretty sure Jamie will bring > it back up tomorrow

Re: [AFMUG] Force10 Masters

2017-01-30 Thread Justin Wilson
I have a client running a bunch of old Force10 stuff in a cabletv system. I wouldn’t call myself a master but I can do vlans, and other basic stuff with them. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] Force10 Masters

2017-01-30 Thread Jesse DuPont
I'm about the same as Justin. Got some on an iSCSI network and also as aggregation in an IPTV headend. Jesse DuPont Network Architect

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

2017-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
There isn't much significantly different amongst Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm"

Re: [AFMUG] VoIP Paging adapters/amplifiers

2017-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do they already have the speaker? Is it an amplified speaker? Is it used for anything else? How much of your time will go into this? How much is your time worth? Can you bill the customer for your time? What about equipment? The CyberData SIP PAs are expensive, but they are also

Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Coming back from Jamaica to Miami, customs guy asked several questions but nothing to do with religionAssociating Islam with terrorists is no different than associating Christianity with KKK Just doesn't fly Interesting that Trump dude wants to be like Andrew Jackson Didn't go

[AFMUG] VoIP Paging adapters/amplifiers

2017-01-30 Thread Nate Burke
It's been a couple years since I've installed a paging amplifier. I have used the Cyberdata amplifiers before, is there anything better/cheaper out there now? The Cyberdata one's are still like $400+ I'm looking to cover a smallish shipping department, so 1 speaker is probably adequate.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread George Skorup
And no more LV, all HV w/ the sync pulse killing gigabit fix. I tested some of Chuck's prototypes and they worked fine with GigE + sync. On 1/30/2017 12:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: That is pretty old product. Current product is Rev D. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday,

[AFMUG] OT When Muslims got blocked at American airports, U.S. veterans rushed to help - LA Times

2017-01-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
In your face Donald...This is America at its best...Proud father, brother and son of veterans. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-veterans-muslims-20170129-story.html

Re: [AFMUG] OT When Muslims got blocked at American airports, U.S. veterans rushed to help - LA Times

2017-01-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Seriously. Build a wall? Shut down the border to certain groups of people? What a completely dumb ass way to address any of the Americas immigration process and security issues. And I can’t stand the people saying to themselves, “Well, maybe this WILL work…” Honestly, do we all expect

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Rackmount Injector Update

2017-01-30 Thread George Skorup
So... three power rails. Cool. Are the returns isolated? Is your thinking +12, +24 and +48 rails? Or what I'm asking is, is a -48 rail a possibility? +24, +48 and -48 would be awesome. The thing that I would've liked to have seen is a SiteMonitor exp. port so I could add a module or two, like

Re: [AFMUG] B11, TDMA, and TCP

2017-01-30 Thread Chris Trout
Hi Chris, Yes, there is a hardware limitation. The diode detectors used in the PA to control Tx power lose dynamic range at low power. I’ve raised your request to our engineering team for future product designs. Chris Trout Mimosa Networks, Inc. From: Af on behalf of

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular repeaters. Wilson vs Surecall vs others?

2017-01-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
Probably like Jaime we have installed tons of cell BDA. I would rate them as Surecall, Smooth talker, Wilson. I had enough broken Wilson's in my shop before we moved to build a skyscraper. On Jan 30, 2017 11:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Surecall works On Jan 30,

Re: [AFMUG] ptp 17 mile 5ghz and windmills

2017-01-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
I cam seems you three paths we did a year ago. I'll bet one of them has 20 in the path. They are to link repeaters for a 425 tower wind farm. Of course we only need 5Mbs. They have been up the entire time. On Jan 30, 2017 10:08 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: >

[AFMUG] UBNT mFi Automation

2017-01-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I guess the mFi products are EOL. I don't see a link to it anywhere on their site unless you search for it. Which is a shame because I really thought it would blend well with their Enterprise UniFi paradigm. I know the whole home automation thing was already talked about, but is there

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