Re: [AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread Stefan Englhardt
We are still laughing on this joke. A cracy hotel manager tries to promote his hotels and tells rediculous things to be heard. With every day he tells more senseless hurting stuff. At the end he is president. What was the Regisseur of this 3rd class remake.  Come on guys how deep is deep enough?

Re: [AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Jaime es un mal hombre, pero en el buen sentido! On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I am a peaceful man... I wouldn't hurt a fly... Good night ...remember I am > not illegal, I am your amigo... > > > On Nov 9, 2016 8:56 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Reboot particular AP or all 34 or client device? On Nov 9, 2016 8:31 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > We just did a hotel with Xirrus, 150 rooms, 3 floors. Put in about 34 > radios. After figuring out some quirks with Apple devices the first week > (dhcp timing problems),

Re: [AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am a peaceful man... I wouldn't hurt a fly... Good night ...remember I am not illegal, I am your amigo... On Nov 9, 2016 8:56 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > everybody is afraid that bad hombre jaime is going to cut us with his boot > knife so we are laying

Re: [AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread George Skorup
So it's not over yet? OK, I stay in basement. On 11/9/2016 9:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: everybody is afraid that bad hombre jaime is going to cut us with his boot knife so we are laying low On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Brandon Yuchasz

Re: [AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
For a second I thought you were serious. I'm kind of gullible. Brandon Yuchasz wrote: No emails from the list today. I would have thought I would see something about politics.

Re: [AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
everybody is afraid that bad hombre jaime is going to cut us with his boot knife so we are laying low On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > No emails from the list today. I would have thought I would see something > about politics. > -- If you only

Re: [AFMUG] roku essid

2016-11-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, they seem to... I don't know what exactly they're doing, but if you change the router channel, these things always follow. On Nov 9, 2016 9:38 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Are they both channel 1? SSID? If so I would say yes. > > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] roku essid

2016-11-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/9/16 7:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: are these things somehow both an AP and a Client, like functioning as a repeater? AC:3A:7A:A6:92:A9 - - -66 -93 52 / 65 95 08:33:20 192.168.1.110 kick THIS IS IN THE CLIENT LIST AC:3A:7A:A6:92:AB 802.11n WPA2 -66 / -93 2.412 / 1 THIS IS IN THE

[AFMUG] this thing on?

2016-11-09 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
No emails from the list today. I would have thought I would see something about politics.

Re: [AFMUG] roku essid

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Are they both channel 1? SSID? If so I would say yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > are these things somehow both an AP and a Client,

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
We just did a hotel with Xirrus, 150 rooms, 3 floors. Put in about 34 radios. After figuring out some quirks with Apple devices the first week (dhcp timing problems), we barely get 1 customer call about every 3-4 weeks. We tell them to reboot, problem solved. Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
talk to CTI and work out a vendor trade for some marketing for them if the event is related to any of the loot they sell, or if the visitors are potential owners of locations that would need a ruckus solution, like schools, hotels, multisite offices, etc. Do a white paper case study. Ive only

[AFMUG] roku essid

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
are these things somehow both an AP and a Client, like functioning as a repeater? AC:3A:7A:A6:92:A9 - - -66 -93 52 / 65 95 08:33:20 192.168.1.110 kick THIS IS IN THE CLIENT LIST AC:3A:7A:A6:92:AB 802.11n WPA2 -66 / -93 2.412 / 1 THIS IS IN THE SITE SURVEY ON THE WIRELESS -- If you only see

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Xirrus kicks butt in high density scenarios On Nov 9, 2016 1:06 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Nate, I've got a lot of Xirrus equipment I can rent to you. They are > designed specifically for these type of environments. > > Rory > > -Original Message- > From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple Routers At Small POPs?

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I wish I was as smart as you guys, my head would hurt less On Nov 9, 2016 7:04 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > We do this currently. > > > > There are two MPLS routers with VPLS ports each connected to a switch bank > for redundancy. > > > > VPLS performance on Mikrotik

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread Paul Stewart
quality of software started slipping a long time ago …. > On Nov 9, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Chill dude... Take another hit and relax > > > On Nov 9, 2016 9:16 AM, > wrote: > Now you can legally smoke out

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Chill dude... Take another hit and relax On Nov 9, 2016 9:16 AM, wrote: > Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition. > Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified! I wonder if this will > have a negative impact on the quality of software. >

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple Routers At Small POPs?

2016-11-09 Thread Sterling Jacobson
We do this currently. There are two MPLS routers with VPLS ports each connected to a switch bank for redundancy. VPLS performance on Mikrotik is lacking though at above 1Gbps range, so I’m reverting most my network back to just plain VRRP between two routers and OSPF ring back to the sources.

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple Routers At Small POPs?

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
This is a fairly common configuration. Well, I don't know about 3, but definitely 2 routers. It gives you redundancy, allows you to perform in place hardware and software upgrades, etc. Another common design is multiple switches and routers at a site. On the "lan" side there are 2 switches,

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread chuck
AnimalFarm in Wendover? From: Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ganja Nevada too.� Wispapalooza 2017! On 11/9/2016 10:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition.�

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple Routers At Small POPs?

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The rb1100ahx2 has a failover bond on two of the ports so it becomes a coupler. I would think you could do something with that in a single unit solution, I don't know what you would gain over what you have though On Nov 9, 2016 5:17 PM, "Christopher Gray" wrote:

[AFMUG] Multiple Routers At Small POPs?

2016-11-09 Thread Christopher Gray
Early in my network design, I decided to have multiple routers at each POP (normally 3 MikroTiks in a triangle configuration, using RB750UP where power was needed). The goal was to improve reliability by having critical links come into different routers, allowing site access if any router actually

Re: [AFMUG] Vote

2016-11-09 Thread Bill Prince
I've seen what ranked choice did in Oakland, CA where the two "best" candidates split the vote, and a third not-so-good candidate appeared as #2 in a majority of votes. The #3 got elected, and it was a difficult 4 years. I prefer the "top 2" primary voting method that was instituted a couple

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
I was joking... On Nov 9, 2016 3:28 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ... >> > Hey, I resemble that remark. > > On Nov 9,

Re: [AFMUG] Vote

2016-11-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I firmly believe that having ranked choice voting in place would encourage more people to pay attention to all of their choices. Because the system empowers voters to be able to choose the candidates they actually want without the risk of splitting the vote between similar candidates, I believe

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > . No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ... > Hey, I resemble that remark. On Nov 9, 2016 8:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > > Can't respond at moment Sam and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Design Collaboration Software

2016-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Or had all kinds of design elements in it like routers and switches. The collaboration features are pretty neat for a project. You can share our with customers,engineers,sales. Make your objects. They will do a demo for you or I can do a bit worse off a job for you of showing you the basics.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Design Collaboration Software

2016-11-09 Thread Christopher Gray
Is this specific to radio networks, or would it work for general engineering design projects? On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > We use something called Teldio D3M. > http://www.teldio.com/products/d3m > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 5:42 PM Christopher

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
So some smart guys are setting up for building the wall Getting cement prices, rebar, tools, back hoes, workers, etc They are all on the Mexican side ...they figure no one of this side wants to work for peanuts in the desert heat and sun I am trying to find the link. Tongue in cheek

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Cameron Crum
And that was the left doing it. On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Dan Petermann wrote: > "The left has been way over dramatic putting visions of children crying > while jackbooted thugs kick their door in and drag papa off to the gulag. " > > You mean like this: > > Except in

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Looking at hot chic is one thing.. Touching and having affair is another... Let me be clear... I have never advocated open border... I know the law... But the broad paint brush he used to put us all in that basket.. No different if I said you guys have no rhythm or small cock's ...stereotyping..

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Wireless Administrator
If he gets even half the things on his platform done, he will be the greatest president ever to hold office. I’m with HIM! # Drain the Swamp I just ordered the T-Shirt. Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, November 09,

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon repairs

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
PDMnet maybe? SWG possibly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Could anybody repair a Ceragon IP10c (all outdoor model) with dead > ethernet ports? > >

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
Nate, I've got a lot of Xirrus equipment I can rent to you. They are designed specifically for these type of environments. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 9:48 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Plans $21M Fine for Rural Health Care Program Abuse

2016-11-09 Thread Nick W
Yep. I used to work there... Still know a few people that do... or did as of two weeks ago. If you ask me, this fine is light. On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-plans-21m-fine-rural-health > -care-program-abuse >

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Dan Petermann
"The left has been way over dramatic putting visions of children crying while jackbooted thugs kick their door in and drag papa off to the gulag. " You mean like this: Except in this case it was the kid they dragged off. On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:09 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm

[AFMUG] Ceragon repairs

2016-11-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Could anybody repair a Ceragon IP10c (all outdoor model) with dead ethernet ports?

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
CTI does. They"rent" the Ruckus gear for the WISPA shows. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 9, 2016 11:48 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > I'm looking at a project where I would need to (temporarily) provide Wifi

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Tried serial console? -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/9/2016 2:05:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network Wonder if its only listening on certain IPs or IP ranges... On Nov 9, 2016 1:01

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Wonder if its only listening on certain IPs or IP ranges... On Nov 9, 2016 1:01 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" wrote: > Port scan only gave me a single open port, 5678. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Port scan only gave me a single open port, 5678. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Run a port scan on them. Try the web too. > > >> On Nov 9, 2016 11:39 AM, "Brett A Mansfield" >> wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Yep ☺ A creative, fresh look at this (not a bureaucratic jam it down your throats plan) could indeed yield good results. Get smart guys in a hotel room on a weekend and watch what happens From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:17

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Telnet on ePMP 3.1

2016-11-09 Thread Nate Burke
AFAIK there is no way in EPMP to do that, but it is on the roadmap ala FSK and 450. On 11/9/2016 12:05 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Yep, I get know that my expectation for going from a Mikrotik probably isn�t going to work. What device do we use to talk to an SM via MAC Telnet ? Not seeing an

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Run a port scan on them. Try the web too. On Nov 9, 2016 11:39 AM, "Brett A Mansfield" wrote: > All the romon ports and all other normal ports used for management aside > from the discovery are either closed or blocked by an internal firewall. > > Thank you, >

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
I really like your thought process in the first paragraph... Kind of. Having illegals show up to work on a project just "outs" them, so I can't see many showing up :) Having the unemployed show up as federal contractors to work on infrastructure projects would be a great idea. For one, you can

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
A public works project is a great opportunity to get people working. I would dig it if the current illegals were afforded an option to stay if they participate in the construction if they meet the criteria for entry in the first place. Not citizenship or amnesty, but no trip back to mexico, they

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Telnet on ePMP 3.1

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Yep, I get know that my expectation for going from a Mikrotik probably isn't going to work. What device do we use to talk to an SM via MAC Telnet ? Not seeing an option within the AP to do it from there. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Bill Prince
A mental wall would be cheaper, and probably just as effective. bp On 11/9/2016 9:48 AM, Paul McCall wrote: A traditional “wall” would stop nothing. I heard ideas such as 10 feet down, 40 feet high, layered, electric barbed wire, integrated cameras into the

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Telnet on ePMP 3.1

2016-11-09 Thread Nate Burke
Are you talking about trying to login via MAC telnet? The Neighbor list is just everything that is spitting out Discovery info, ala CDP or UBNT discovery, you can see all your cisco or UBNT devices in a mikrotik neighbor list, but you can't login at a MAC level to them. It is just a tool to

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
A traditional “wall” would stop nothing. I heard ideas such as 10 feet down, 40 feet high, layered, electric barbed wire, integrated cameras into the block wall, AND the people detectors. Something sophisticated, designed up from the ground up, with purpose. I would think freezing out

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Chris Wright
.backup Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network What would the config file extension be? Thank you,

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Telnet on ePMP 3.1

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Can you expand on this? How do we login then? From what device? I guess I was assuming we could from a Tik, but maybe there is something else in mind? I don't see an option from Cambium? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 9:42 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Brett A Mansfield
All the romon ports and all other normal ports used for management aside from the discovery are either closed or blocked by an internal firewall. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > wrong username/password

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
Too late. I looked on Youtube. Good job Paul. Paul McCall wrote: Kurt, I will send you a few links OFFLIST. Not a place to toot my own horn (pun somewhat intended) Paul *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:20 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Kurt, I will send you a few links OFFLIST. Not a place to toot my own horn (pun somewhat intended) Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread Jon Langeler
Agreed. my wife is hoping he brings Ben Carson onto the team. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > the man ran against the dnc, the gop, and the media and won. doing things > previously thought

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
wrong username/password you should be able to romon or mac connect regardless, hopefully he had romon on and once youre into one you can get into the rest On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > So I think I have the correct password, but no

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Brett A Mansfield
So I think I have the correct password, but no matter what I get an error when connecting. I think he may have changed the management ports. I should be able to log in via console and change all of that there, correct? If so I'll google the guide. My biggest question is if I try to log in and

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
man, ive been hiding that shame for some time, im glad to know someone else out there is equally as guilty On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > OK, I am lazy, which means I use Winbox, and it has the password stored > for every Mikrotik I manage. Plus I use

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread Keefe John
Nevada too. Wispapalooza 2017! On 11/9/2016 10:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition. Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified! I wonder if this will have a negative impact on the quality of software.

[AFMUG] WiFi coverage and Equipment Rental

2016-11-09 Thread Nate Burke
I'm looking at a project where I would need to (temporarily) provide Wifi to about 350 devices in an indoor open 150'x60' area. There is a good chance that all devices will be in use simultaneously, probably streaming video (Both live TV and Netflix/youtube). Backhaul to the location is not

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread Jason Wilson
I know someone in Colorado who won 2 permits in the lottery. He has had to buy multiple large safes to store the cash. He cannot get bank accounts. The upside... Paid cash for a Tesla. On Nov 9, 2016 8:41 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > It will be interesting to see how the

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
they need to do something since banks wont house their cash, its dangerous to have that big of a cash operation given the client base On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > It will be interesting to see how the feds start to handle this in these > states. I

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread Cameron Crum
It will be interesting to see how the feds start to handle this in these states. I would not want to be in that business right now. On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Jason Wilson wrote: > But you cannot legally purchase until January. > > On Nov 9, 2016 8:16 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i bet trump pushes that cash cow nationwide, too much money and jobs not to. On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Jason Wilson wrote: > But you cannot legally purchase until January. > > On Nov 9, 2016 8:16 AM, wrote: > >> Now you can legally smoke out

Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the man ran against the dnc, the gop, and the media and won. doing things previously thought impossible by those stuck in a mindset of complacency is now his stock and trade On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:33 AM, wrote: > A wall is impractical. Ladder, shovel, spool of det cord. The

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread Jason Wilson
But you cannot legally purchase until January. On Nov 9, 2016 8:16 AM, wrote: > Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition. > Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified! I wonder if this will > have a negative impact on the quality of

[AFMUG] Ganja

2016-11-09 Thread chuck
Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition. Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified! I wonder if this will have a negative impact on the quality of software.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Can't change the password without the password, but you can export in plain text all the important rules and copy and paste them out of the system before reset and that would get him by. So yes looking everywhere for a recent addresses file would be important. But I'm guessing with this

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Can't respond at moment Sam and Paul... Salient points you bring up and will give me perspective.. .getting certification on another camera system family. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... On Nov 9, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Morris" wrote: > You do know the only party that

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I am lazy, which means I use Winbox, and it has the password stored for every Mikrotik I manage. Plus I use Winbox on several computers - laptops, desktops, and computers I remote into. I take it this guy was not similarly lazy? If I was the fired ex-admin, all you would need is to find

[AFMUG] Logistics

2016-11-09 Thread chuck
A wall is impractical. Ladder, shovel, spool of det cord. The wall stops nothing. People detectors are much more practical. Give the list members a billion dollars and we will have a string of motion sensors and cameras that will get ‘er done. Vetting for religion or vetting for a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
You do know the only party that ever created camps and interred Americans was the Democrats, right? And that Carter postponed Muslim immigration How soon people forget. :) On 11/9/2016 8:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Robert
And the other viewpoint would be that under Trump everything might be for sale to the highest bidder.. Not that that would have been any different under Clinton On 11/9/16 6:22 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: +1! Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Paul, Your in a band!?! This is more shocking news than the election results! Where can we find the youtube videos? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 > On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:08

Re: [AFMUG] Vote

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
The problem with the popular vote though, kind of comes back to what Jefferson said, "Convinced that the people are the only safe depositories of their own liberty, and that they are not safe unless enlightened to a certain degree, I have looked on our present state of liberty as a short-lived

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Password reset for inherited network

2016-11-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2016-11-09 at 00:24 +, Brett A Mansfield wrote: > I was able to find the backups. Sadly they are running v6.36.  > > If I default it can I restore its config and change the password or > will it apply the old one? > > Google for "mtpass".  That will find the passwords in the backup

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Jaime, I know this is a sensitive issues culturally, and I know you are sincere in your concerns. However, a lot of what was made out of his statements was highly exaggerated into PC / political talking points. Instead of listening for actual plans to develop the media way overdid it, and

Re: [AFMUG] Vote

2016-11-09 Thread Cameron Crum
There are many reasons why a popular vote would be terrible. The urban centers would basically make slaves out of the rural and farming sectors of the country. Look at the distribution of counties and how they voted. The more generally liberal urban centers pretty much all voted for Hillary. As

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
Yea except that Arizona passed a minimum wage bill. More economic ignoramuses telling me how to run my business. For the record, everyone in my company makes more than what they voted for already but the idea of students or summer interns coming in is gone. Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Vote

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Agreed. Hillary is up 160k with 98% reporting. Around 6 million third party votes... On Nov 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > This election is a perfect example of why the whole Electoral vote should > be gone. I have been talking about this very issue for over 20 years,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Rory Conaway
Even Fox News said he was going to lose. Pretty amazing. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Morris Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 7:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day This is the same media who

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2016-11-09 Thread Travis Johnson
This election is a perfect example of why the whole Electoral vote should be gone. I have been talking about this very issue for over 20 years, and this election is a prime example of a flawed system. I was a Trump supporter, like it or not. I was ready for a change, and could not stomach the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
This is the same media who has been saying all along that Trump was not going to win. We know how that turned out. On 11/9/2016 2:32 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: The media by the way is actually saying the words: economies all over the world have collapsed as a result of the outcome of

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Telnet on ePMP 3.1

2016-11-09 Thread Nate Burke
I think the user/password is done locally before any communication is done with the remote device. I know that when I have a Tik that is locked up, but still showing in the neighbor list, mactelnet will always ask user/pass, but then fail when trying to connect. I always through mac-telnet

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Sam Morris
There is no rape case against Trump. And show me a man who says he's never checked out a hot woman, and I'll show you a liar. On 11/8/2016 11:59 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Nothing anyone says about Trump will change my mind about him or Bill Clinton Men who cheat are worthless... Men who

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Not all Mexicans were called rapists and not all Muslims were called terrorists. It's simple ensuring nothing is getting through unaccounted for and then ensuring that you have as complete knowledge as you can on someone before giving them the keys to the kingdom. Everyone should be for that.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jon Langeler
+1! Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > A Trump president and republican controlled congress is good for WISPS. I'm > looking forward to the next 5 years where the fixed wireless industry is > expected

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
So calling a culture rapists is not racist.. Calling a culture terrorist is not racist.. Build a wall, internment camps to house Muslims is not racist? That's how NAZI party got started.. But of course since we don't teach history anymore without editing to make us angelic and perfect how would

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
Anyone that has talked to someone that is trying to get US citizenship the right way knows what you are talking about. Somehow certain groups are selected for expedited citizenship. Mike Hammett wrote: Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those that did not come

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Josh Reynolds
Talking to several of them now. Also an African, and a guy from Puerto Rico - all coworkers. They are legitimately terrified. All are us citizens. They say they are tired of getting profiled... Pulled over all the time just to have their vehicles searched and then be let go. I didn't realize it

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
You took the words right out of my mouth. We had 25 to 30 candidates from both sides at one point but our choice came to Clinton and Trump. Brett A Mansfield wrote: I keep hoping that I'm going to wake up to find I've been in a coma or sleeping and having the worst nightmare imaginable. How

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Those that came to the US legally are against illegal immigration. Those that did not come here legally or have a difficult time discerning legal from illegal immigration ignorantly label the former group as racist. US citizenship is a proud moment in an applicants life. It is a long and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jay Weekley
There was so much more to the election than whitey hates Mexicans and blacks. If you had just chosen Sanders he probably would have won by a huge margin. Both parties chose the worst possible candidate and this election was the result. A deep analysis would probably find, in my opinion,

[AFMUG] MAC Telnet on ePMP 3.1

2016-11-09 Thread Paul McCall
Installed 3.1 on 1 tower of ePMPs. The GUI is much quicker now. I still wouldn't call it fast but a huge improvement. Good job Cambium. By default MAC-Telnet is enabled and the radios show up in IP Neighbors on a Mikrotik. When we trying connecting we get challenged for Login (then

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I guess I don't get the whole racist thing because I am white I guess. Maybe I want paying attention. I get the whole Islamophobia deal. Mauve I am just insensitive to what is interpreted as"code language" or whatever. I thought I saw that 30% of Latino voters voted for him. What do our Latino

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
And Putin is happy. Wow On Nov 9, 2016 6:21 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the 1930s and let's > Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him. Many of these > rural voters want the country to go 50

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
The fears he played to, like someone we know back in the 1930s and let's Make America White Again theme brought out vote for him. Many of these rural voters want the country to go 50 years... That's the saddest part.. Time will be the judge... I think the world skipped a beat.Right Wing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

2016-11-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
A Trump president and republican controlled congress is good for WISPS. I'm looking forward to the next 5 years where the fixed wireless industry is expected to double in size and hopefully we see some small business friendly legislation that will allow us to hire employees and pay less taxes and

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