Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

I believe the key phrase is, "must accept interference from other sources." --dan On 2/28/2018 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Two guys in Arizona got them but my guess is these people are just fishing. I’ve got my attorneys looking it over and I’m going to make an inquiry to the Attorney

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

holy cow, i just got done reading what i could find on them. thats just a shitshow of terrible customers on terrible service. We have maybe 10 customers left to shed that we just simply cant provide reliable service to, I dont even feel bad now, apparently I can all but show up at their house and

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

Low hanging fruit for those of you in that area... From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet lmao, they even have their own page called airebeam hostages On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Keefe John

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

I must have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night but isn't this a form of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference On 2/28/18 8:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: All fun and games til the litigation specialists attorney files an injunction and some judge thinks this will get his name in the

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

https://www.facebook.com/groups/482822665389519/about/ On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > lmao, they even have their own page called airebeam hostages > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Keefe John > wrote: > >> We have a

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

lmao, they even have their own page called airebeam hostages On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Keefe John wrote: > We have a guy in Wisconsin who tries things like this. > > KJ > > On 2/28/2018 9:57 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: > > Not sure what they think they can enforce

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and we can’t install over their old customers fast enough. Ken is backed up at least 3 times what we are backed up. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

All fun and games til the litigation specialists attorney files an injunction and some judge thinks this will get his name in the net neutrality game as a helper of people halts the target ISP operations On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: > We all

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

We do but who knows, maybe Simon is right. I think a cease and desist letter from a couple manufacturers and WISPS is in order. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

We have a guy in Wisconsin who tries things like this. KJ On 2/28/2018 9:57 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: Not sure what they think they can enforce on unlicensed frequencies.. On 2/28/2018 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: � � Two guys in Arizona got them but my guess is these people are just

Re: [AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors

I can’t remember of Steve Coran is on this list or not. If not you ought to forward this to him. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors I actually tried to get my FCC attorney to agree

Re: [AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors

I actually tried to get my FCC attorney to agree that we could enforce something like this about 15 years ago. He told me I was pissin’ in the wind. Part 15 and the doctrine of the “law of the commons” were again me. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:55 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

all you need to know about this outfit " Today is a Great Day! I cancelled my Airebeam account and switched to another company. This company has the worst customer service. They also have horrible internet service. They are very unresponsive when there is an issue. (and if they did respond, they

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

Also their Google and Facebook reviews are absolutely horrible. Some of the worst I've seen for a wisp. They must be really struggling to stay afloat and offer decent service. On Feb 28, 2018 9:57 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > man, that sucks. He probably paid this

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

We all know 5ghz is unlicensed and there's nothing they can do about it. Ignore the letter and deploy where you want. Just don't purposefully go on the same channel they're on when you can scan and pick a clean channel if available. The letter is a scare tactic and nothing more. On Feb 28, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

Not sure what they think they can enforce on unlicensed frequencies.. On 2/28/2018 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Two guys in Arizona got them but my guess is these people are just fishing.� I�ve got my attorneys looking it over and I�m going to make an inquiry to the Attorney

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

man, that sucks. He probably paid this lawyer too. wouldnt it be crazy though if this was a loophole nobody thought of cause its too dumb to work, but we didnt take into account the level of dumb in the judiciary On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > >

[AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors

I thought I would rename this appropriately. WISPA needs to get ahead of this quickly so it doesn't spread to every law office that thinks they are going to make buck intimidating their competitors. 2 WISPS I know in Arizona got these today. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/feedlot-panel-cattle-16-ft-l-x-50-in-h about 3300 for 8 foot tall without posts leaves alot of budget for claymores On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > A border wall of that would cost you about $201,960,000

Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence

Ha...good one Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2018 8:09 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > A border wall of that would cost you about $201,960,000 just for reference. > > =) > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:39 PM, wrote: > > All of the below. Just don’t want to spend

Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence

A border wall of that would cost you about $201,960,000 just for reference. =) On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:39 PM, wrote: > All of the below. Just don’t want to spend $25K for 1300 feet of fence. > > > From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 3:59 PM > To:

Re: [AFMUG] unsubscribe

Ha ha...I have to get drunk with you Steve... Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2018 7:29 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > http://www.afmug.com/ > > > look halfway down the page > > > we have complimentary koolaid. its my uncle jims recipe > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:29 PM,

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http://www.afmug.com/ look halfway down the page we have complimentary koolaid. its my uncle jims recipe On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Richard Pedersen wrote: > Done that doesn’t work > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >

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Welcome to the hotel California On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 3:51 PM Richard Pedersen wrote: > How do I get off this list? I have done everything possible to no avail > Emailing the operators of this list doesn’t get any response. the > unsubscribe doesn’t work either. I have

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Welcome to the Hotel California! Strange that you can't unsubscribe. I know there are listers here who can help you disappear ..from list. Jaime Solorza On Feb 28, 2018 6:30 PM, "Richard Pedersen" wrote: > Done that doesn’t work > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] unsubscribe

Done that doesn’t work From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] unsubscribe I don’t recall seeing a single email from you. In any event, there is, embedded in every

Re: [AFMUG] unsubscribe

Have you tried this? List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Richard Pedersen wrote: > How do I get off this list? I have done everything possible to no avail > Emailing the operators of this list doesn’t get any response.

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I don’t recall seeing a single email from you. In any event, there is, embedded in every single email header the instructions on how to unsubscribe. List-Unsubscribe: http://afmug.com/mailman/options/af mailto:af-requ...@afmug.com subject=unsubscribe Once you do that, then Amazon

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Instructions are in the header, if nothing else log in and do it from the link in the header On Feb 28, 2018 5:51 PM, "Richard Pedersen" wrote: > How do I get off this list? I have done everything possible to no avail > Emailing the operators of this list doesn’t get any

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All in jest of course. Other than that I have no Clue how to get out. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com > On Feb 28, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Jason Wilson

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It is pretty much like a gang or a cult. Once you’re in you are in for life. Just like with Hughes Net Contracts the only way our is to die, but please send a copy of the death certificate before we cancel you. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence

All of the below. Just don’t want to spend $25K for 1300 feet of fence. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence So are you looking for cheaper, more secure, or best value? No sane person would try to breach

Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence

So are you looking for cheaper, more secure, or best value? No sane person would try to breach concertina wire. https://www.google.com/search?q=concertina+wire=lnms=shop=X=0ahUKEwjYjrv808nZAhVElJQKHX33B_AQ_AUICygC=1536=759#spd=3258212414157725779 Cheap and easy enough for a grunt to install.

[AFMUG] What is 802.11ax Wi-Fi, and what will it mean for 802.11ac | Network World

https://www.networkworld.com/article/3258807/lan-wan/what-is-802-11ax-wi-fi-and-what-will-it-mean-for-802-11ac.html Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Extended temperature range PC's

Make sure to select the wide-temp option on memory and I think SSDs. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Paul, I really like the options available on this one. Thanks much. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "can...@believewireless.net"

Re: [AFMUG] OT Security fence

Cattle panels are what we use in the gardens like 6x10 inch rectangular holes, could probably train an infant to rob the inerior and stick them through. You can get the heavy duty T posts. A roll of barbed wire isnt much per foot, but i dont know what the cattle fenc, tposts, fasteners and barbed

Re: [AFMUG] Extended temperature range PC's

Paul, I really like the options available on this one. Thanks much. -- Original Message -- From: "can...@believewireless.net" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/28/2018 8:10:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Extended temperature range PC's

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

I am just giving them enough credit to blame someone else... And enough fault that if it's provable that a simple setting change would fix it, then they shouldn't get paid... Which is pretty much all the time when it comes to Geek squad... I wouldn't let them set up a pair of speakers...

[AFMUG] OT Security fence

I need a security fence on some property where I store equipment and vehicles. Got a quote from a fence company. About $20/foot or more. That was for chain link with barbed wire at the top and a couple of fancy gates. Camp Williams (Utah Natl Guard) and the nearby NSA facility has a fence

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

The skill level can vary, but I know a few people who worked there who I do respect. Their higher level people will have certifications and real knowledge and experience. Low level people may up jumped gamers. I have some stories I probably shouldn't share publicly. -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

I would agree, if you didn't specifically tell him to go to Geek Squad, you have no responsibility. Even if you did, it's questionable, because from the sounds of it, it was most likely his stupidly configured VPN that was the problem, and not really a problem with the connection. The fact that

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Geek squad figure that out with settings? I think you're giving them too much credit... On Wednesday, February 28, 2018, Robert wrote: > I would let the customer know that in order to determine if he should be > paid by you for the Geek service call that he needs to let

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Great idea. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE I would let the customer know that in order to determine if he should be paid by you for the Geek service call that he needs to let

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

I would let the customer know that in order to determine if he should be paid by you for the Geek service call that he needs to let you do a test to see if it is the MTU settings in the VPN and PPOE. If it turns out that it is fixable via settings in the VPN software, then the customer

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

DHCPatriot Not sure about the other questions. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE Off topic, but what are you using for DHCP? Are you running a BNG that authenticates the circuit? i.e SVLAN/CVLAN or

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

I have not got that answer yet. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE Was it working, then something changed and it stopped working. or Was it never working. If the latter I'd say not a chance of

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Off topic, but what are you using for DHCP? Are you running a BNG that authenticates the circuit? i.e SVLAN/CVLAN or Option 82 circuit data? On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:33 AM, wrote: > I think he did call and I think some of his initial contact may have been > with

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Was it working, then something changed and it stopped working. or Was it never working. If the latter I'd say not a chance of reimbursement. They should be super happy that their provider came up with a solution for them that fast to work around what is most likely their faulty VPN setup.

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

I think he did call and I think some of his initial contact may have been with ServerPlus. I don’t recall the total sequence of events. It was escalated. Our folks checked thing out and all appeared well for everything but the VPN. We did err in not immediately converting him to DHCP as we

Re: [AFMUG] FCC license?

I guess that is probably true… > On 28 Feb 2018, at 17:05, wrote: > > Where does the service originate? > If the SIP originates in Malta, are you really selling something into the US > or are you allowing global customers to come to you and use your server?

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Unless you specifically recommended he contact Geek Squad then I’d suggest you are not morally responsible…. Just my two cents worth… From: Af on behalf of Reply-To: Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 11:02 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Did he ever call you to report/resolve the issue? If you blew him off, maybe he has an issue. If he never called you, but went straight to Geek Squad, then he kind of took it on himself. bp On 2/28/2018 8:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We are not sure as we don’t

Re: [AFMUG] FCC license?

Where does the service originate? If the SIP originates in Malta, are you really selling something into the US or are you allowing global customers to come to you and use your server? -Original Message- From: David Thake Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

We are not sure as we don’t want to experiment on him now. Just trying to determine if we feel we have a moral duty to reimburse him for his geek squad expenses. If his VPN is not robust enough for PPPOE, I don’t feel much compulsion. But if this is common problem and we should have known

Re: [AFMUG] FCC license?

I couldn't say. -- Original Message -- From: "David Thake" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/28/2018 10:40:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC license? Thank you for your reply. Wouldn’t that apply if you were the one selling to the end user? Likewise, if I export

Re: [AFMUG] FCC license?

Thank you for your reply. Wouldn’t that apply if you were the one selling to the end user? Likewise, if I export product to the US, it would be the importer who would have to have trading permits, import licences etc. D > On 28 Feb 2018, at 16:34, Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] FCC license?

http://www.commlawgroup.com For an authoritative answer you'll need a lawyer. Which I am not. People selling telephone service in the US file an FCC Form 499-A. The instructions for form 499-A are linked below and they'll mention other taxation and regulatory fees and forms that must be

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

Was his MTU a factor? He would manually have to set it on the router behind the PPPoE connection. The limitation would have evaporated when converted to DHCP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:44 PM To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] Extended temperature range PC's

A lot. bp On 2/27/2018 6:39 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I guess I don't need a PC specifically. I wonder how many Pi's I could stick on a 1U shelf.

Re: [AFMUG] FCC license?

No permit but there are taxes, reporting, and filling you have to do. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018, 12:58 AM David Thake wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Do you know if we need any special FCC permit to sell SIP services to a US > based ISP? > > We are based in Malta in the EU. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Extended temperature range PC's

www.logicsupply.com/products/rugged-computers/ They run on 12V-24V DC as well. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I just bought one off eBay. I’d check there first if price sensitive. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 Status

Yeah interesting ... been a while since I've done that myself ... surprised on a few of them (Amazon for example) not working as they typically have We need more ISP's to get on the IPv6 bandwagon though .. Paul On 2018-02-27, 6:43 PM, "Af on behalf of Sterling Jacobson"

[AFMUG] FCC license?

Hi Guys, Do you know if we need any special FCC permit to sell SIP services to a US based ISP? We are based in Malta in the EU. Thanks David Thake www.vanilla.net.mt www.cempilli.com