Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Darren Shea
TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party

Re: [AFMUG] Comcast vs. HBO Go on PS4?

2015-03-06 Thread Darren Shea
The only thing in the article which undermines that reading of the facts is this line: “Roku eventually got approval last December, but Sony devices are still locked out.” That implies that Comcast customers are allowed to use the HBOGo service, but only with certain, pre-approved by

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Radius

2015-05-07 Thread Darren Shea
Mike, The username and password for RADIUS (which is referred to as EAP-TTLS within the configuration) are under Configuration - Security. Obviously,to really make this work well, you’ll need unique usernames for each STA – we use the STA’s WLAN MAC address. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Darren Shea
Forrest, Cambium has admitted there is a problem with GPS sync over power dropping for no reason on the ePMP APs with some software versions, and it is a cross-platform problem. It doesn’t seem to be any worse on our PacketFlux gear than it is on the LMG CTM-2M – and we only see this on

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik automated backup options

2015-07-03 Thread Darren Shea
We use a script which sends the backup file to an e-mail account, but yes, using the backup file can be tricky if the hardware is different, because the port numbers won’t match up. To get around that, I also wrote a script which uses export to list which addresses are on each port, and that

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

2015-11-16 Thread Darren Shea
Oh, very cool! Is this (or an older version) Winbox port compatible with Snow Leopard on an older MacBook? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac I don’t

Re: [AFMUG] accessing pmp keys?

2015-08-28 Thread Darren Shea
They moved it to https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements - the whole system is different, but if you have your Entitlement IDs, you should still be able to access them. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:43 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-04 Thread Darren Shea
Does the 13.4.1 release fix the RADIUS bug that was allowing SMs to connect to the AP but not be assigned a VC? We ran into a showstopper bug with 13.3 where the SMs became inaccessible to our techs as soon as they connected to an AP, and the 13.4 release had the above problem, which was

Re: [AFMUG] OT Turd Ferguson

2015-09-17 Thread Darren Shea
That’s pretty much what happened to me when I was on the show, although ultimately, it was a dastardly Daily Double which was my downfall… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Turd

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1

2015-12-02 Thread Darren Shea
Aaron, That's great news - thanks for the quick response! -- Darren -Original Message- From: Aaron Schneider [mailto:aaron.schnei...@cambiumnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com; Darren Shea Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Well, I must

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1

2015-12-01 Thread Darren Shea
Aaron, I had a question about a change Cambium implemented on the 450D radios, although it's not new to 14.1.1 (I think it started in 13.4): the Power Control section on the Configuration -> Radio, External Gain setting is no longer adjustable, and is locked in at 25dB. OK, but the radio

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

2015-12-11 Thread Darren Shea
-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote: Oh, YES – this. Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones an

[AFMUG] Useful IP addresses for netflow analysis

2015-12-11 Thread Darren Shea
I have tried repeatedly to Google this, but I can't seem to find what I'm looking for (or can't seem to find the right keywords): I'd like to see if anyone has a list of IP addresses used by the big CDNs, Netflix pipes, Microsoft and Apple updater systems, major email providers, etc.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-12-21 Thread Darren Shea
Minor spoiler-y, but amusing http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/low_concept/2015/12/construction_memos_fr om_general_hux_to_the_contractors_who_built_starkiller.html -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 10:52

Re: [AFMUG] OT I un-screwed myself

2016-05-26 Thread Darren Shea
I’ve asked someone who had a pretty solid password get compromised if she had used that password anywhere else, and she answered, “yes, I use the same password everywhere.” If one site they use (which has poor security and stores passwords somewhere in plaintext) gets compromised, and the

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Glen Frey

2016-01-18 Thread Darren Shea
The night after I met the woman who is now my wife, we were in a song circle with a bunch of friends and guitars. She asked me if I knew "Hotel California", to which I replied yes, and played it for her. I don't know if that was what convinced her to give me a shot, but I'm sure it didn't hurt!

Re: [AFMUG] Tower lights & FCC rules

2016-02-09 Thread Darren Shea
Yes, but you need to contact the FAA to file a Notice to Airmen - that's how you get your grace period. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/content/lightOutageReporting.jsp -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Tuesday, February

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

2016-01-20 Thread Darren Shea
Yes, we are still having the random PMP 450 AP reboots – they may have fixed it in a newer firmware, but as there have been some serious bugs which were showstoppers for us with every version after 13.2, we wouldn’t know. I’m not slapping an untested beta f/w on an AP with 60 subscribers, and

Re: [AFMUG] Congratulations Patrick

2016-02-19 Thread Darren Shea
Nah, that doesn’t make you a brony, but I think Twilight Sparkle appeals to the more studious viewers, while Rainbow Dash appeals to the ones who appreciate athleticism more… (my seven year-old daughter loves the show, too!) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Darren Shea
-totaler, what is the difference between these different types of beers? I hear IPAs are bitter. No clue as to how it would differ from a stout or ale or etc etc. I thought they were all barley, yeast and water? From: Darren Shea <mailto:darr...@ecpi.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Darren Shea
I just tried that Temptress last week – it was almost a dessert beer, what with the mint and vanilla flavors. Surprisingly good – very drinkable and not overly sweet. Normally a more hoppy (IPA, Imperial IPA, etc.) beer fan, but a good stout is always worthwhile. n Darren From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Darren Shea
Honestly, we just pull up Google Earth, draw a line from the tower with the proper heading and look for landmarks against which to aim for sectors and coarse adjustment of BHs. I don’t know if it’s any more accurate, but it’s definitely on the same cost plane as standing in a field. From:

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-09 Thread Darren Shea
Forrest, How will this play with Cambium’s new PMP450i AP, which is supposed to be 802.3at compatible, but also can run with a modified 320/430 pinout? Thanks, n Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, March 08,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy moving from 1 color code per tower to 1 color code per AP

2016-03-21 Thread Darren Shea
It’s been a while, but I remember my steps (going from one omni to multiple sectors) being like this: 1. Put up new sectors, but don’t turn on transmit 2. Set all new APs to the same color code as the omni. Grab a snapshot of all connected SMs from the omni 3. Reboot all SM’s

[AFMUG] Procera Packet Logic shaping rules?

2016-03-02 Thread Darren Shea
Just putting this out there, since our Procera tech contact basically told us that there is no existing collection of "best practices" shaping rules we can work from to develop our specific, custom rules... For those of you with these Procera boxen, what sort of shaping rules (objects) have you

Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP

2016-03-07 Thread Darren Shea
We had seen some issues with ePMP customers on high-speed plans getting poor speedtest results - we found that changing the customer's router's MTU from Auto to 1480 helped immensely. Another factor was to make sure that all backhauls in the path were running at full connection speed (in other

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Darren Shea
We need a "None of the Above" option - if that's the winner, not a single one of the candidates who appeared on the ballot for that race are eligible to run in the follow-up election. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs

2016-04-13 Thread Darren Shea
I’d think the guy from Telrad who’s going to paint the breakfast (Leo DaSomething - Caprio, maybe?) would want you to have some friends over to fill out the tableau… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:03 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Licence key on 450

2016-07-14 Thread Darren Shea
If by AP proxy, you mean “can you use the IP derived from the LAN2 Network Interface Configuration IP to upgrade the license key?”, then the answer is definitely yes. Before you generate the key, use that IP with the LUID in the last octet to access the SM, then log in. If that is all

Re: [AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The true, correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration - The Washington Post

2017-01-26 Thread Darren Shea
You mean, like President Obama? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/us/politics/obama-walter-reed-military.html?_r=0 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE

Re: [AFMUG] Adding second power supply to CMM4

2017-02-23 Thread Darren Shea
I did that with a rack-mount CMM4 before – connected the terminals to the 29V supply, then plugged it in. No effect on the PMP320s, and it worked perfectly for the new PMP450 AP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:33 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-24 Thread Darren Shea
All these groups are a bunch of granfalloons! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling It's because people are tribal. They want to belong to a group. Spewing a popular

Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput

2017-02-09 Thread Darren Shea
Running an 11GHz, 16+ mile shot. I'm getting 277 Mbps on a single 40MHz wide channel (you could use an 80 or a doubled 40 to get over 500 Mbps). It works great when the weather's nice, but the rain fade is a monster. Anytime a giant storm parks itself between the two sides for 30-60 minutes, then

Re: [AFMUG] IOS SSH Client

2016-10-07 Thread Darren Shea
Thirded - very useful app! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Stump Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IOS SSH Client Seconded. Joshua Stump Network Admin Fourway.NET 800-733-0062 From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-27 Thread Darren Shea
Jaime - you just gave my tongue an unpleasant memory! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 6:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade S Stamps... Fill it up and get cool stuff Boom! Youngsters heads

Re: [AFMUG] CNMaestro Export

2016-10-20 Thread Darren Shea
I'd also like to hear a solution - I was running a very light subset of my network on the cloud version, so I just manually moved the handful of devices over. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:13 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP cnMaestro

2016-12-05 Thread Darren Shea
If you’re asking about on-premises, it’s supposed to be, using Option 15 or Option 43. I’ve never been able to make it work with a Mikrotik, but you may have more luck if you’re running a Windows DHCP server – the latest On-Premises Users Guide has an appendix about configuring that, starting

Re: [AFMUG] 450m Ethernet cable gland

2016-12-30 Thread Darren Shea
I bought 10 of these the other day: http://www.newark.com/lapp-kabel/52015810/cable-clamp-gland/dp/19M8609 They are shorter, and the rubber bushing inside has a bigger hole, so we'll need to work harder to seal it, but it is a heck of a lot cheaper than the official Cambium gland. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud.xclaimwireless.com down?

2016-12-06 Thread Darren Shea
Of course! How else will the TBPAA (Toasted Bread Products Association of America) know you aren't exceeding your toasting plan's monthly license for Toast/English Muffins/Bagels? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, December 06,

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread Darren Shea
We’re using the PacketFlux SyncBox Junior Aux Port and the Cambium official “AC+DC Enhanced Power Injector”. Can’t remotely power-cycle, but it is pretty stable (other than the random SM session drops). From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Review

2017-03-17 Thread Darren Shea
Not sure whether this merits a "Run to the Hills" reference, or an implication that Bruce Dickinson might be your pilot if you have to take a flight to see them... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 3:29 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro usability

2017-04-12 Thread Darren Shea
I’ve got a bunch of units on the On-Premises OVA, and it’s pretty neat, but yeah, configuration is not easy. There are two tasks I’ve tried to build templates to configure ePMP to do: adding an SNMP trap server worked well, but disabling the extraneous user accounts did not. It certainly

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

2017-04-21 Thread Darren Shea
- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup Didn't Xerox originally own all of them? Seems like I got a block many years ago from them. -Original Message----- From: Darren

Re: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup

2017-04-21 Thread Darren Shea
I use this one: https://www.adminsub.net/?sc0=3 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:44 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] MAC Vendor Lookup Does anyone have a good web site or source for MAC vendor

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450M

2017-04-18 Thread Darren Shea
I got 10 of the Lapp 52015810 units from Newark for 4.22 each – way better than the $30 each for the official ones, but they are considerably shorter and the rubber bushing does not fit a cable snugly. As George pointed out, you can squeeze an RJ-45 through the hole in the bushing. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

2017-07-14 Thread Darren Shea
I'd think PMP100 900 MHz - I know we have a few of those SMs in the 0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range, From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be? obviously 900

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

2017-07-14 Thread Darren Shea
. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be? Any idea what year manufactured? - Original Message - From: Darren Shea <mailto:darr...@ecpi.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Darren Shea
Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite register until I re-read everything you’d typed in this thread - clever! Congratulations! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Vulnerability Published

2017-06-15 Thread Darren Shea
Odd. The post says we should be running 3.4-RC7 or later, but 3.4 Final was released a few days ago, and the release notes don't seem to mention this vulnerability. I may be missing something, but the concern seems to be about the fact that the platform responds to SMNP get and set commands,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Music

2017-06-09 Thread Darren Shea
Back when George Harrison’s Cloud Nine album was pretty new, my first wife put “Got My Mind Set On You” on endless repeat. I think I lasted with that going for about an hour before I snapped… It could have been worse – at least that was a decent song on a great album. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Music

2017-06-09 Thread Darren Shea
It's OK - even if Stevie kills him, the landslide will bring him back! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 2:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Music Please let me know if your wife is going to be available!

Re: [AFMUG] Uptime bug with ePMP?

2017-05-05 Thread Darren Shea
There is a known bug which truncates the uptime in the home page to chop off the days. That would account for the uptime/session uptime discrepancy (actually 9 days, 15 minutes, which gets rounded to 9 days in the Monitor->Wireless screen From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-05 Thread Darren Shea
_ /(| ( : __\ \ _ () `| ()| | ().__| (___)__.|_ SSt -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 9:15 PM To:

[AFMUG] PMP450 SMs resetting to Factory Defaults? Anyone?

2017-09-07 Thread Darren Shea
Just wondering, if this is a problem which only bedevils me, or if other people are seeing it: PMP450 SMs, running 15.0 or later f/w (it's a question right now whether the AP f/w is related to this, but it seems that the APs are usually running 13.2 f/w) The symptom is the SM throws a

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs resetting to Factory Defaults? Anyone?

2017-09-07 Thread Darren Shea
er 7 2017 11:17, Darren Shea wrote: > Just wondering, if this is a problem which only bedevils me, or if > other people are seeing it: > > > > PMP450 SMs, running 15.0 or later f/w (it's a question right now > whether the AP f/w is related to this, but it seems that the APs a

Re: [AFMUG] She came in through the bathroom window

2017-11-15 Thread Darren Shea
You mean to tell me the silver spoon didn’t really offer any protection? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:22 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] She came in through the bathroom window We drove down to Dell City on service

Re: [AFMUG] Platypus Help

2017-11-14 Thread Darren Shea
Mike, On a Windows system, you’d find the ODBC config in “Windows Administrative Tools” -> ODBC Data Sources (32-bit). Look in the System DSN tab. When I install the client, one of the earliest steps in the installation is configuring the server access – there is a Test Database

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp vs 450 - DFS events

2018-05-30 Thread Darren Shea
I’ll vouch for Sean’s experience on these – we also had to roll back a bunch of DFS 15.1-15.1.3 APs to 15.0.2 to deal with a ridiculous level of false radar detections. I haven’t yet tried 15.1.5 on any of those, but there wasn’t any indication they dealt with that in release notes. n

Re: [AFMUG] Remote generator start options packetflux?

2017-12-21 Thread Darren Shea
. On 12/21/2017 2:40 PM, Darren Shea wrote: Forrest, That’s really interesting – am I jumping to conclusions, or does that modular design of the underlying architecture mean it would be possible to design a module which would replace the jumper options on the current RackInjector with a fully

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Post

2018-01-15 Thread Darren Shea
The movie is scary because he brings Faygo soda into the server room!!! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Post A movie about a juggalo IT guy? Didn't see it. Don't want to.

Re: [AFMUG] Powering a 450d SM via 24v, need polarity crossover?

2018-02-02 Thread Darren Shea
Wow! Is that an “450d production stops as soon as the high-gain 450b is put into production”, or “they stopped making them already” situation? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 3:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Remote generator start options packetflux?

2017-12-21 Thread Darren Shea
Forrest, That’s really interesting – am I jumping to conclusions, or does that modular design of the underlying architecture mean it would be possible to design a module which would replace the jumper options on the current RackInjector with a fully controllable, web-accessible,

[AFMUG] Speedtest replacements?

2014-09-23 Thread Darren Shea via Af
We currently host our own speedtest server using Ookla's speedtest technology, but Ookla is discontinuing the version we run, and the licensing fees for the new version are very steep. I'm looking at alternatives, such as OpenSpeedTest and speed.io, but would like to get some feedback on these

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest replacements?

2014-09-23 Thread Darren Shea via Af
: Us too. Same story with Ookla. Like their interface, but their prices are too steep for what we use it for. bp On 9/23/2014 7:34 AM, Darren Shea via Af wrote: We currently host our own speedtest server using Ookla's speedtest technology, but Ookla is discontinuing the version we run

[AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts

2014-10-07 Thread Darren Shea via Af
Is anyone else getting inundated with a flood of customers who can't connect to the internet through their Belkin routers this morning?   What's the deal with that?,   Darren

Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official

2014-11-13 Thread Darren Shea via Af
Wow, that makes perfect sense! I had a ticket open with Cambium on this issue for two APs, and I decided yesterday to see if 13.2 (Build 40) made any difference, and it resolved the problem, so I closed the case. I knew the antennas were connected properly, so that explanation never occurred to

Re: [AFMUG] 4K Video Streaming Impact on ISP's

2014-12-10 Thread Darren Shea via Af
Terrific analogy! --Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 4K Video Streaming Impact on ISP's Most everyone here has been in this business long enough to see the