Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-13 Thread Toomas Aas
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 Gene Heskett wrote: If separate configs, which I can't personally find an overpowering reason for, you would need, most likely, two separate tape libraries each containing its own drive(s), or 2 separate big hard drives. Actually two separate configs do not require

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-13 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
Thanks a brazillion all! There's a lot of good info here that I'll need to take some time to digest. Amanda sure is a big sandwich. While I'm processing it all, might someone point me to the syntax of what might be called a 'compound DLE' ? Instead of something like: code localhost /bin

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-13 Thread Jean-Francois Malouin
* Andrius D. Ilgunas andr...@ilgunas.net [20140113 11:19]: Thanks a brazillion all! There's a lot of good info here that I'll need to take some time to digest. Amanda sure is a big sandwich. While I'm processing it all, might someone point me to the syntax of what might be called a

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 08:18:22AM -0800, Andrius D. Ilgunas wrote: Thanks a brazillion all! There's a lot of good info here that I'll need to take some time to digest. Amanda sure is a big sandwich. While I'm processing it all, might someone point me to the syntax of what might be

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 January 2014 12:56:52 Andrius D. Ilgunas did opine: Thanks a brazillion all! There's a lot of good info here that I'll need to take some time to digest. Amanda sure is a big sandwich. A good way to put it in the vernacular, yes it is. While I'm processing it all, might

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-12 Thread Gene Heskett
. Then it determines how best to achieve balanced dumping while still keeping to your defined parameters. For any specific DLE it may continue to do a level 1 incremental, switch it to a smaller level 2 incremental, or promote it to an early level 0 full dump. So a strategy might

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-12 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
-- Andrius On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Gerrit A. Smit gerritas...@xs4all.nlwrote: Andrius D. Ilgunas wrote on 12-01-14 21:42: I'm not quite clear on your response. Creating a separate storage volume isn't a problem since I'm using vtapes. Do you mean that it would be easier to

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 January 2014 15:56:32 Andrius D. Ilgunas did opine: -- Andrius On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: so when 500Gig and up hard drives became available, I converted to vtapes on a hard drive, which has turned out to be, dollar for

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
amdump for those file system or disks that were going to be affected. BTW, the traditional style of backups is possible with Amanda. One way is to set the config with a strategy of incremental only. Then in your in your crontab, for the day you want full backups you use amdump options to override

Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
Hey All! We're setting up amanda on our servers, and the primary backup is going to be on a dedicated disk/virtual tapes. One of the offsite locations is going to be a bucket on Amazon's S3. Now I see that amanda has the capability of writing to multiple volumes in parallel, but I'm wondering

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
Thanks a brazillion Charles!! I'll probably setup my systems likewise, but I wonder if anyone has any other opinions on this. -- Andrius On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:44:07 -0800 Andrius D. Ilgunas

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:29:27AM -0800, Andrius D. Ilgunas wrote: Thanks a brazillion Charles!! I'll probably setup my systems likewise, but I wonder if anyone has any other opinions on this. -- Andrius What kind of write speed to S3 can you expect? Can your backups to holding disk

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
Hey Jon, I would expect them to be network-type speeds on a T1 even as the buckets are mounted via FUSE. I don't have numbers, but I can say that a copy of one of my databases to /mnt/s3/bucket1 of around 250MB will timeout approximately 30% of the time. But I'm sure that copying over

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
. If I understand the terminology, this would be an archive? So a strategy might be: on the 30th day, do a full dump, and copy it to 'somewhere safe', whether on S3, or a DVD.That seems like a pretty straight-forward concept, but might this idea be improved upon somehow? I just finished reading

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Jon LaBadie
balanced dumping while still keeping to your defined parameters. For any specific DLE it may continue to do a level 1 incremental, switch it to a smaller level 2 incremental, or promote it to an early level 0 full dump. So a strategy might be: on the 30th day, do a full dump, and copy

Re: Backup Strategy

2014-01-11 Thread Andrius D. Ilgunas
parameters. For any specific DLE it may continue to do a level 1 incremental, switch it to a smaller level 2 incremental, or promote it to an early level 0 full dump. So a strategy might be: on the 30th day, do a full dump, and copy it to 'somewhere safe', whether on S3, or a DVD

Re: Does 'force bump' roughly equate to 'strategy incronly'?

2011-12-22 Thread Bryan Hodgson
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 03:42:32PM -0500, Bryan Hodgson wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 01:11:00PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:01:36AM -0500, Bryan Hodgson wrote: One day next week I want to prevent any level 0 dumps, and run only incrementals for that one

Re: Does 'force bump' roughly equate to 'strategy incronly'?

2011-12-22 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau
) { - days = est(dp)-next_level0; /* This is 0 by definition */ + days = est(dp)-next_level0; + if (days 0) days = 0; if(daysmy_dumpcycle !dp-skip_full dp-strategy != DS_NOFULL dp-strategy != DS_INCRONLY) { sp[days].disks++;

Does 'force bump' roughly equate to 'strategy incronly'?

2011-12-21 Thread Bryan Hodgson
= no.) There is more than one runcycle in our tape cycle, and we won't be over-writing the most recent level 0 for any dump. I recognize that changing strategy to 'incronly' for all dumptypes in amanda.conf should have the desired effect, but would prefer to do this through amadmin. TIA. Bryan

Re: Does 'force bump' roughly equate to 'strategy incronly'?

2011-12-21 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:01:36AM -0500, Bryan Hodgson wrote: One day next week I want to prevent any level 0 dumps, and run only incrementals for that one night. It's not obvious to me from the docs that 'amadmin force bump' will actually prevent amanda from concluding that it's time for

Re: Does 'force bump' roughly equate to 'strategy incronly'?

2011-12-21 Thread Bryan Hodgson
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 01:11:00PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:01:36AM -0500, Bryan Hodgson wrote: One day next week I want to prevent any level 0 dumps, and run only incrementals for that one night. It's not obvious to me from the docs that 'amadmin force

Re: backup strategy

2010-04-16 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
strategy ideas based on prior knowledge from other kinds of backup software. After you have read through that a couple of times, you might have different questions. -- --- Chris Hoogendyk - O__ Systems Administrator c/ /'_ --- Biology Geology Departments (*) \(*) -- 140

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: On 14/08/09, Frank Smith (fsm...@hoovers.com) wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Amanda will do the compression for you. You define it in the dumptype in amanda.conf. If you have a holding disk, then it will compress the data as it goes onto the holding disk.

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Cyrille Bollu
I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... Cyrille Bollu Responsable systèmes Fedasil - ICT tel: +32.2.213.43.49 gsm: +32.478.23.08.15

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 August 2009, Cyrille Bollu wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... Its been my observation that software raids are slower.

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Monday 17 August 2009, Cyrille Bollu wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... To drive an LTO-4 your holding disk needs to read

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Cyrille Bollu wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... Here is an extremely interesting article that everyone

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 17/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: Cyrille Bollu wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. snip http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=484. While this guy is looking at things like database servers and exchange, we ought to be able to

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 14/08/09, Frank Smith (fsm...@hoovers.com) wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Amanda will do the compression for you. You define it in the dumptype in amanda.conf. If you have a holding disk, then it will compress the data as it goes onto the holding disk. If you don't have a holding disk,

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi Chris On 13/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: ... the solution is akin to the Japanese monks caring for Bonzai I liked this idea about tape archives -- constant pruning and maintenance. Difficult to sell though. As for your specific questions: You should be

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Cyrille Bollu
Hi, Here's my (very) small personnal experience: A few years ago, when I tried it, I couldn't enable server-side software compression while bypassing the holding disk with my IBM ULTIUM LTO-3 drive: Tape speed was sinking to about 5MB/s. My backup server was a Dell PowerEdge 2850 with 4 Intel

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Cyrille Bollu wrote: Here's my (very) small personnal experience: A few years ago, when I tried it, I couldn't enable server-side software compression while bypassing the holding disk with my IBM ULTIUM LTO-3 drive: Tape speed was sinking to about 5MB/s. My backup server was a Dell

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Hi Chris On 13/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: snip Typically, we set up Amanda with holding disk space. snip If all the storage is locally attached (actually, AoE drives storage units connected over Ethernet), I am hoping to avoid

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Frank Smith
Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Hi Chris On 13/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: snip Typically, we set up Amanda with holding disk space. snip If all the storage is locally attached (actually, AoE drives storage units connected over

Re: Post subject: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO

2009-08-13 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Apologies that this email doesn't have the correct threading ID. I posted through Backup Central originally and I can't get hold of the original mails on the Amanda users list since subscribing properly to it -- the advertised ftp archives don't seem to exist any more. Many thanks to Chris,

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: So maybe you should provide a complete OS distribution, including the backup software. Like a customized version of one of the live CD releases of Linux. But

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-13 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 13/08/09, Charles Curley (charlescur...@charlescurley.com) wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: So maybe you should provide a complete OS distribution, including the backup software. Like a

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-13 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: On 13/08/09, Charles Curley (charlescur...@charlescurley.com) wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: So maybe you should provide a complete OS distribution,

[Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread rorycl
I'm going to cross-post this text on the Amanda and Bacula lists. Apologies in advance if you see this twice. Our company is about to provide centralised backups for several pools of backup data of between 1 and 15TB in size. Each pool changes daily but backups to tape will only occur once a

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
rorycl wrote: An important aspect of the system is that the tapes should be readable for 12 years, by other parties if necessary. From this point of view we like the idea of providing a CD with each tape set of the software needed to extract the contents, together with a listing of the

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:17:17 -0400 rorycl amanda-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: An important aspect of the system is that the tapes should be readable for 12 years, by other parties if necessary. From this point of view we like the idea of providing a CD with each tape set of the software

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: I'm going to cross-post this text on the Amanda and Bacula lists. Apologies in advance if you see this twice. Our company is about to provide centralised backups for several pools of backup data of between 1 and 15TB in size. Each

How to configure Amanda for our backup strategy?

2007-10-01 Thread DavidG
I'm setting up Amanda for the first time and would like to configure it for our existing backup strategy. We want to do complete backups nightly during weekdays, i.e. Monday-Friday night. Once a week, let's say Wednesday, we want to take one tape to an off-site vault and bring another tape back

Re: How to configure Amanda for our backup strategy?

2007-10-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 08:50:59AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm setting up Amanda for the first time and would like to configure it for our existing backup strategy. We want to do complete backups nightly during weekdays, i.e. Monday-Friday night. Once a week, let's say Wednesday, we

Advice for setup and backup strategy needed

2006-12-01 Thread Markus Koppenberger
Hi, I'm quite new to amanda but as far as I have read about it and after some first tries, it seems that it could do the job for our needs, but I would need some advice for a backup strategy and for how to setup up amanda I will describe you our current situation and our needs as well as my

Re: no incremental backup in strategy standard

2006-11-08 Thread Thomas Ginestet
experience about that ? Thomas Thomas Ginestet a écrit : Hi list, I've got a problem with my dump cycle. In my dumpcycle of 7 days (with 5 runs per cycle) and a strategy standard, I've got 5 full backups instead of one full and 4 incremental backups. Here is my amanda.conf: org test

no incremental backup in strategy standard

2006-10-31 Thread Thomas Ginestet
Hi list, I've got a problem with my dump cycle. In my dumpcycle of 7 days (with 5 runs per cycle) and a strategy standard, I've got 5 full backups instead of one full and 4 incremental backups. Here is my amanda.conf: org test # your organization name for reports dumpuser

strategy incronly and skip-full again: According to manual page, both are buggy. Have bugs been fixed?

2006-06-22 Thread Toralf Lund
Regarding my recent post regarding strategy incronly and skip-full, I just found out more about the problems I've had in the past with this simply by checking the amanda.conf manual page it says: skip-full /boolean/ Default: no. If true and planner has scheduled a full backup

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-17 Thread Toomas Aas
Jon LaBadie wrote: Haven't seen anyone on the list mention using it, but Iomega introduced some interesting hardware last year. I think they call it Rev, basically a small, removalble hard drive cartridge. Think high capacity, tiny zip drive as it has 35GB native capacity and a builtin

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 03:03:59PM +0300, Toomas Aas wrote: Jon LaBadie wrote: Haven't seen anyone on the list mention using it, but Iomega introduced some interesting hardware last year. I think they call it Rev, basically a small, removalble hard drive cartridge. Think high capacity,

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-17 Thread Mike Delaney
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 03:03:59PM +0300, Toomas Aas wrote: Jon LaBadie wrote: Haven't seen anyone on the list mention using it, but Iomega introduced some interesting hardware last year. I think they call it Rev, basically a small, removalble hard drive cartridge. Think high capacity,

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-16 Thread Bernhard Ott
FM wrote: Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to switch for HD backups. Does some of you using HD backup ? if so what is you stategy ? How you take backup off-site ? What kind of hardware are you using ? SCSI or SATA RAID

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0400, FM wrote: Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to switch for HD backups. Does some of you using HD backup ? if so what is you stategy ? How you take backup off-site ? What kind of

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-16 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 at 12:13pm, Jon LaBadie wrote On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0400, FM wrote: Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to switch for HD backups. Does some of you using HD backup ? if so what is you

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-16 Thread Tobias Bluhm
Joshua Baker-LePain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/16/2005 01:02:33 PM: On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 at 12:13pm, Jon LaBadie wrote On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0400, FM wrote: Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to switch for

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 01:02:33PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 at 12:13pm, Jon LaBadie wrote On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0400, FM wrote: Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to

HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-12 Thread FM
Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to switch for HD backups. Does some of you using HD backup ? if so what is you stategy ? How you take backup off-site ? What kind of hardware are you using ? SCSI or SATA RAID ? Thanks !

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-12 Thread Toomas Aas
FM wrote: Does some of you using HD backup ? if so what is you stategy ? How you take backup off-site ? At one site, I'm using two external FireWire HDDs (Maxtor 5000DV), 5 'virtual tapes' on each. One of the HDDs is off-site, every Monday it's brought in and the HDD that was used during

Re: HD backup strategy ?

2005-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 12 August 2005 09:40, FM wrote: Hello everybody, My ibm 35810 died and I will cost use 2 CA$ to replace it. So I thing it's time to switch for HD backups. Does some of you using HD backup ? if so what is you stategy ? How you take backup off-site ? What kind of hardware are you

What tapes can I send off-site ? How do I implement this backup strategy ?

2005-05-10 Thread Guy Dallaire
We use a nice GUI program to do that, but the product is outdated and buying a new licence is too costly. Amanda seems good, and we use more and more open source software here so we decided to try it out. Our current method of backup is the traditional incrementals Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, and Friday

Re: What tapes can I send off-site ? How do I implement this backup strategy ?

2005-05-10 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 03:45:57PM -0400, Guy Dallaire enlightened us: We use a nice GUI program to do that, but the product is outdated and buying a new licence is too costly. Amanda seems good, and we use more and more open source software here so we decided to try it out. Our current

Re: What tapes can I send off-site ? How do I implement this backup strategy ?

2005-05-10 Thread L Sydow
How can I manage to do full backups of every server each FRIDAY ? I know I should create a new config specifying always full and an infinite tapecylce and run it on fridays, and run the regular schedule on the other days. Instead of having cron run amdump directly, you could have it run a script

Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Chuck Amadi
Has anyone example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy. Cheers Chuck -- Unix/ Linux Systems Administrator The Surgical Material Testing Laboratory (SMTL), Princess of Wales Hospital Coity Road Bridgend, United Kingdom, CF31 1RQ. Tel: +44 1656 752820 Fax: +44

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Martin Hepworth
of the documentation and esp how the planner handles incrementals/full backups. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Chuck Amadi wrote: Has anyone example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy. Cheers Chuck

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Chuck Amadi
of the documentation and esp how the planner handles incrementals/full backups. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Chuck Amadi wrote: Has anyone example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy. Cheers

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Paul Bijnens
Chuck Amadi wrote: Am I on the right track. No, you're not. On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 11:40 +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: Have a read of the documentation and esp how the planner handles incrementals/full backups. Have you done that? And do you have a reason why not to follow the amanda-planner? --

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Martin Hepworth
Amadi wrote: Has anyone example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy. Cheers Chuck ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Chuck, on Mittwoch, 13. April 2005 at 12:30 you wrote to amanda-users: CA Has anyone example of amanda implement the infinite CA grandfather-father-son strategy. This is what we call the friday-tape-question: http://www.amanda.org/docs/topten.html#id2519662 -- best regards, Stefan

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
level 0 backups and has the tapes marked as don't reuse. Have a read of the documentation and esp how the planner handles incrementals/full backups. Chuck Amadi wrote: Has anyone example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy. You may have read

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Chuck Amadi
anyone example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy. Cheers Chuck ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Paul Bijnens
Chuck Amadi wrote: Hi agian I now got it. almost :-) My Friday tapes i.e weeklySets their amanda.conf will have level 0 and thus I just pull out the last Friday of the month for archiving. and run amlabel to create the pulled tape. dumpcycle 5 # 4/5 Friday tapes last tape to be pulled.

Re: Example of amanda implement the infinite grandfather-father-son strategy dumpcycle.

2005-04-13 Thread Chuck Amadi
of amanda implement the infinite CA grandfather-father-son strategy. This is what we call the friday-tape-question: http://www.amanda.org/docs/topten.html#id2519662 -- Unix/ Linux Systems Administrator The Surgical Material Testing Laboratory (SMTL), Princess of Wales Hospital Coity Road

Re: Determining appropriate backup strategy

2005-04-01 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 at 5:24pm, Vicki Stanfield wrote I think what I am really talking about is the dumptype. I have the ones I listed defined. I think I might be confusing them with priority. I suppose the dumptype could only mean level of compression. But then I need more information

Determining appropriate backup strategy

2005-03-31 Thread Vicki Stanfield
I am using amanda to back up my servers. I have the following situation: There is about 42G of data to be backed up on one particular machine. This data is mostly static data in a directory structure which creates a new directory whenever 1000 files are in the current directory and numbers the

Re: Determining appropriate backup strategy

2005-03-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:47:51PM -0500, Vicki Stanfield wrote: P.S. I think I asked before but didn't get an answer. Is there a source for an explanation of the different priorities of backups. I have the following defined from an inherited amanda.conf file: always-full (obvious)

Re: Determining appropriate backup strategy

2005-03-31 Thread Vicki Stanfield
Jon LaBadie wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:47:51PM -0500, Vicki Stanfield wrote: P.S. I think I asked before but didn't get an answer. Is there a source for an explanation of the different priorities of backups. I have the following defined from an inherited amanda.conf file: always-full

Re: Determining appropriate backup strategy

2005-03-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
line 10: host butch: interface default disk /var: program GNUTAR exclude list /usr/local/etc/amanda/exclude.gtar priority 0 dumpcycle 7 maxdumps 8 maxpromoteday 1 strategy STANDARD compress CLIENT FAST comprate

Re: Determining appropriate backup strategy

2005-03-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:47:51PM -0500, Vicki Stanfield wrote: I am using amanda to back up my servers. I have the following situation: There is about 42G of data to be backed up on one particular machine. This data is mostly static data in a directory structure which creates a new

amanda tape use strategy

2004-12-07 Thread Chris Loken
Apologies if this has come up before. Couldn't find anything relevant. I'm talking about level 0 dumps (not incrementals). Using ait-3 tapes, GNUTAR (not linux dump), a tape library, 104GB holding disk and setting runtapes greater than 1 (I need to dump several tapes-worth of data). NO

Re: amanda tape use strategy

2004-12-07 Thread Paul Bijnens
Chris Loken wrote: Apologies if this has come up before. Couldn't find anything relevant. I'm talking about level 0 dumps (not incrementals). Using ait-3 tapes, GNUTAR (not linux dump), a tape library, 104GB holding disk and setting runtapes greater than 1 (I need to dump several tapes-worth

Re: amanda tape use strategy

2004-12-07 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:35:29PM -0500, Chris Loken wrote: Apologies if this has come up before. Couldn't find anything relevant. I'm talking about level 0 dumps (not incrementals). Using ait-3 tapes, GNUTAR (not linux dump), a tape library, 104GB holding disk and setting runtapes

Re: amanda tape use strategy

2004-12-07 Thread Paul Bijnens
Frank Smith wrote: How difficult would it be to implement a 'best fit' strategy? The number of possibilities is extremely large, and because the tapecapacity is only an approximation, not worth the cost. My AIT-1 tapes hit end of tape between 33 and 34 Gbyte. And rarely there is one which

Re: amanda tape use strategy

2004-12-07 Thread Chris Loken
Paul Jon - thanks for the tip about using taperalgo. I wasn't aware of this parameter. Will try it out but I'm not sure how well it will work for me - I'm only dumping from one client, there are a lot of filesystems that are large compared to the tape size and there isn't enough space to keep

Laptop Backup Strategy

2004-10-27 Thread Richard Karnesky
I'd like to add several laptops to my current configuration. I was wondering what solutions people used for transient hosts. Ideally, the main backup configuration (which handles workstations) would run in the evening. The downside of this is that laptops are VERY rarely (if ever) on the

Re: Laptop Backup Strategy

2004-10-27 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Richard Karnesky wrote: 3. Force users to backup to a server If you have sufficient spare diskspace, let the user rsync from time to time to this space. Then let Amanda backup this space, together with the other machines that are always available. Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Re: Laptop Backup Strategy

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Dill
I'm beginning to investigate using external USB 2.0 / Firewire drives to do backups of some systems. The idea is that we could keep 2-3 spare PCs around, then if your computer is toast, we just ship it out for repairs, plug your external drive into one of the spare PCs, and rebuild the system

Bare-metal restore strategy

2004-06-04 Thread John Bossert
Just getting started with Amanda and am successfully backing up partitions on both my amanda server and a separate client with gtar - so far so good. Are there best practices for a bare-metal restore with amanda? In the past, if I needed to recover a machine, I'd get the tapes I needed (that

Re: Bare-metal restore strategy

2004-06-04 Thread Paul Bijnens
John Bossert wrote: Are there best practices for a bare-metal restore with amanda? In the past, if I needed to recover a machine, I'd get the tapes I needed (that I'd produced with dump with the machine quiesced); boot the machine from CD (or tape - yes, I'm that old...); newfs the disk

Amanda backup strategy thoughts, full and incremental backups to tape once a week.

2004-04-06 Thread William Hargrove
Hello All, I would like to ask a general Amanda backup 'strategy' question here, given by backup 'goals' below. I have a configured and working Amanda set-up but I want to try and fit a backup policy that I believe is best suited to our site around Amanda. I have an 8-tape (DLT 35/70gb each

Re: Amanda backup strategy thoughts, full and incremental backups to tape once a week.

2004-04-06 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 12:12:05PM +0100, William Hargrove wrote: Hello All, I would like to ask a general Amanda backup 'strategy' question here, given by backup 'goals' below. I have a configured and working Amanda set-up but I want to try and fit a backup policy that I believe is best

Re: Amanda backup strategy thoughts, full and incremental backups to tape once a week.

2004-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dill
Here's a strategy that I implemented about a month ago that is working pretty well so far: 1. run amdump every night to large RAID w/o tape, mix of full and incr 2. run script to separate images to amanda-incr and amanda-full 3. when amanda-full exceeds size of tape, run amflush 4. when RAID

Re: Amanda backup strategy thoughts, full and incremental backups to tape once a week.

2004-04-06 Thread pll+amanda
In a message dated: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:12:05 BST William Hargrove said: I was thinking I could do the incremental backups to a hard disk area on the tape server each night and then run Amanda once a week to archive the full backups plus the HDD incremental ones. I did this once, way back when

Re: strategy

2003-06-04 Thread Bruce Fletcher
On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 12:57 AM, Paul Bijnens wrote: Paolo Supino wrote: more (idiotic) questions: Do the global dumpcycle and the one inside the backup type mean the same thing? If so do they have to have the same entry? and then what should I put in the global dumpcycle, runspercycle

Re: strategy

2003-06-04 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:31:18AM -0700, Bruce Fletcher wrote: And how does one cope as data storage requirements start to increase? My understanding is that you can do the following: - if necessary, label a few more tapes and increase the tapecycle And probably increase runtapes to allow

Re: strategy

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Bijnens
Bruce Fletcher wrote: On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 12:57 AM, Paul Bijnens wrote: The global dumpcycle can be overruled for some specific dumptypes. So that you can have e.g. a global dumpcycle of 7 days, but a few important DLE's can specify a dumpcycle 0 (= full backups allways). Runspercycle

strategy

2003-06-03 Thread Paolo Supino
Hi Last week I installed amanda on a new network and in the configuration I gave it: strategy noinc. For some unkonwn reason amanda ignored the strategy and complained about not being able to complete incremental backups. Today I tried to put noinc in double quotes ( ) and I ran amcheck

Re: strategy

2003-06-03 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:43:21PM +0300, Paolo Supino wrote: Hi Last week I installed amanda on a new network and in the configuration I gave it: strategy noinc. For some unkonwn reason amanda ignored the strategy and complained about not being able to complete incremental backups

RE: strategy

2003-06-03 Thread Paolo Supino
? and then what should I put in the global dumpcycle, runspercycle and tapecycle? TIA Paolo -Original Message- From: Jon LaBadie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: strategy On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:43:21PM

Re: strategy

2003-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
: Jon LaBadie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: strategy On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:43:21PM +0300, Paolo Supino wrote: Hi Last week I installed amanda on a new network and in the configuration I gave it: strategy noinc. For some

Re: strategy

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Bijnens
Paolo Supino wrote: more (idiotic) questions: Do the global dumpcycle and the one inside the backup type mean the same thing? If so do they have to have the same entry? and then what should I put in the global dumpcycle, runspercycle and tapecycle? The global dumpcycle can be overruled for some

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