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ler" <b...@tknow.com<mailto:b...@tknow.com >> <mailto:b...@tknow.com%3cmailto:b...@tknow.com>>> >> To: "owen" <o...@delong.com<mailto:o...@delong.com >> <mailto:o...@delong.com%3cmailto:o...@delong.com>>> >> Cc: arin-ppml

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past 12 - 18 months? > > -- > Dani Roisman > > > From: "Bill Buhler" <b...@tknow.com<mailto:b...@tknow.com>> > To: "owen" <o...@delong.com<mailto:o...@delong.com>> > Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Dani Roisman > wrote: That’s just billing buckets then, not really based on actual transfer activity. Maybe it will help to look at more relevant data? ARIN staff watching - could you point me to any published

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:15 PM, John Curran > wrote: On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Dani Roisman > wrote: That’s just billing buckets then, not really based on actual transfer activity. Maybe it will

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rds, Bill Buhler From: Dani Roisman [mailto:drois...@softlayer.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:40 AM To: Bill Buhler; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Tha

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gt; Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:15 PM, John Curran <jcur...@arin.net<mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote: Unfortunately, we do no

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.com%3cmailto:o...@delong.com>>> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net%3cmailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:59:30 PM Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2

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ng.com>>> > Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net > <mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net%3cmailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:59:30 PM > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based > evaluation f

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[mailto:drois...@softlayer.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:52 AM To: arin-ppml@arin.net; Bill Buhler Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Hi Bill, I'm interested to learn how

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ni Roisman <drois...@softlayer.com>; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Based on the ARIN fee table of ISP classification: /20 is the max allocation size of a

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...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Mark Mahle Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 7:36 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Bill, Great compromise proposal. Can you clarify

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addresses for a > year. Meanwhile the small end users and ISPs could obtain up to a /22 of a > resource that with a lot of careful use of NAT would support a fairly large > public network. > > Best regards, > > Bill Buhler > > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net &l

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, September 28, 2015 1:09 PM To: Bill Buhler Cc: Adam Thompson; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:50 , Bill Buhler <b...@tknow.com<mailto:b...@tkn

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, > > > > Bill Buhler > > > > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> > [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net>] On > Behalf Of Steven Ryerse > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:48 AM &

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Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:11 AM To: Adam Thompson Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks I’m not going to support anything that provides a blanket exemption

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o:o...@delong.com] > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 1:09 PM > To: Bill Buhler > Cc: Adam Thompson; arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based > evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks > > > On

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, September 28, 2015 12:59:30 PM Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks OK, how about this: Small end users and ISPs are allowed to obtain IPv4 address blocks without a needs test as long a

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n done based on the current model. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you wanted to speculate, you would need to spin-up dozens of entities all with unique mailstops, and you would have to camp on the addresses for a year. Meanwhil

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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:50 , Bill Buhler <b...@tknow.com<mailto:b...@tknow.com>> wrote: Thanks Owen for your thoughts, it sounds to me li

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On 25-Sep-15 14:33, Steven Ryerse wrote: > Stephen Sprunk on Friday, September 25, 2015 3:26: >> On 25-Sep-15 12:48, Steven Ryerse wrote: >>> It is time to fix this inequity >> and removing needs tests would be >>> a big help to small organizations who really need resources! >> >> If they

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On 9/26/2015 12:11 PM, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote: > Owen, > > On 25/09/15 20:24, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Please provide the metrics on which you base this assertion. How was >> RIPE-NCC accuracy measured prior to the policy change and to what >> extent was it improved as a result of this policy

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Owen, On 25/09/15 20:24, Owen DeLong wrote: Please provide the metrics on which you base this assertion. How was RIPE-NCC accuracy measured prior to the policy change and to what extent was it improved as a result of this policy change. What mechanism was used to determine that the measured

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t regards, > > > > Bill Buhler > > > > *From:* arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Ryerse > *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2015 11:48 AM > *To:* Owen DeLong > > *Cc:* arin-ppml@arin.net > *Subject:* Re: [

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, Dani Roisman <drois...@softlayer.com> wrote: > | Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:53:59 -0400 > | From: ARIN <i...@arin.net> > | To: arin-ppml@arin.net > | Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based > | evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4

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ot exist! >> >> >> >> It is time to fix this inequity and removing needs tests would be a >big >> help to small organizations who really need resources! >> >> >> >> *Steven Ryerse* >> >> *President* >> >> *100 Ashfor

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Hi Owen, On 25/09/15 21:56, Owen DeLong wrote: On Sep 25, 2015, at 04:23 , Elvis Daniel Velea wrote: Hi Owen, On 25/09/15 09:23, Owen DeLong wrote: It’s not ARIN’s mission to prevent profits nor did I say it was. My point is that Elvis support for removing policy is

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One more thing regarding the moving bits businesses.. On 25/09/15 21:56, Owen DeLong wrote: Do you offer any services involving moving bits between your clients and other organizations? Or are you strictly in the address marketing/management business? From everything you have said to me, I’ve

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arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9 Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On 17 September 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council

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Ryerse <srye...@eclipse-networks.com>; Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Having watched this for the last couple of years

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:48 , Steven Ryerse > wrote: > > Owens comment from below: > “2. To the extent that there is supply, anyone who needs addresses can get > them already. Needs-based evaluation does not prevent those with need from > getting addresses… It

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25, 2015 3:03 PM To: Steven Ryerse <srye...@eclipse-networks.com> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks That’s an interesting take on the “inequity”… H

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-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On 25-Sep-15 12:48, Steven Ryerse wrote: > Owens comment from below: > > “2. To the extent that there is supply, anyone who needs addresses > can get them already. Needs-based evaluation does not prevent those

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@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On 25-Sep-15 14:05, Steven Ryerse wrote: > It’s pretty obvious that if needs testing goes away, Legacy blocks will > become much more ava

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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On Sep 25, 2015, at 04:42 , Elvis Daniel Velea <el...@velea.eu<mailto:el...@velea.eu>> wrote: Hi Richard, On 25/09/15 06

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Ryerse <srye...@eclipse-networks.com> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:48 , Steven Ryerse <srye...@eclipse-networks.com<mailto:sry

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Ryerse <srye...@eclipse-networks.com<mailto:srye...@eclipse-networks.com>> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks T

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: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:24 PM To: el...@velea.eu Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On Sep 25, 2015, at 04:42 , Elvis Daniel Velea <el...@velea.eu<mai

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the transfer. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: Andrew Dul To: arin-ppml@arin.net Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks One

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3:46 PM > To: Steven Ryerse <srye...@eclipse-networks.com> > Cc: Mike Winters <mwint...@edwardrose.com>; arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based > evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks >

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n >>> certain sections of the NRPM to increase the database accuracy? >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On >>> Behalf Of ARIN >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 201

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24, 2015 4:37 PM > To: el...@velea.eu > Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based > evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks > > Of course your position wouldn’t have anything to do with the pr

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4, 2015 6:20 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks | Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:53:59 -0400 | From: ARIN <i...@arin.net> | To: arin-ppml@arin.net | Subject: [arin-

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...@arin.net> on behalf of > Dani Roisman <drois...@softlayer.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:20 PM > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based > evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblock

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f the NRPM to increase the database accuracy? -Original Message- From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of ARIN Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:54 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based

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-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Mike Burns Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 3:35 PM To: Leif Sawyer <lsaw...@gci.com>; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 net

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; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks - Original Message - From: "Leif Sawyer" <lsaw...@gci.com> Should ARIN begin the process of streamlin

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On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote: > > +1 > > Keeping needs basis in the NRPM will only drive the transfers underground. > Some are already using all kind of financial tricks (futures contracts, lease > contracts, etc) and are waiting for the needs basis

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t; certain sections of the NRPM to increase the database accuracy? > > > -Original Message- > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On > Behalf Of ARIN > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:54 PM > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: [arin-pp

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Hi John, On 24/09/15 23:16, John Curran wrote: On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote: +1 Keeping needs basis in the NRPM will only drive the transfers underground. Some are already using all kind of financial tricks (futures contracts, lease contracts, etc)

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-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 4:37 PM To: el...@velea.eu Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Of course your position

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n sections of the NRPM to increase the database accuracy? -Original Message- From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of ARIN Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:54 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating n

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r 23, 2015 12:54 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9 Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4

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IN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9 Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On 17 September 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:51:29PM +0300, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote: > +1 > > Keeping needs basis in the NRPM will only drive the transfers underground. > Some are already using all kind of financial tricks (futures contracts, > lease contracts, etc) and are waiting for the needs basis criteria to

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and remove "need" as a criteria in >>> certain sections of the NRPM to increase the database accuracy? >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On >>> Behal

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- Original Message - From: "Leif Sawyer" Should ARIN begin the process of streamlining the IPv4 policy so that it is geared more toward the transfer market, and remove "need" as a criteria in certain sections of the NRPM to increase the database accuracy? Hi

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arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9 Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On 17 September 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC

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8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks | Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:53:59 -0400 | From: ARIN <i...@arin.net> | To: arin-ppml@arin.net | Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based | evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks | Message-

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9 Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks On 17 September 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-223 Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks" as a