Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Firmware on Multiple SB3's ?

2007-04-05 Thread Robin Bowes
whdean wrote: Robin- I went into Windows Safe Mode/Command Prompt and edited the squeezebox2.version file, as you suggested - I think. Instead of the single line: 1..81 81 I now have 2 lines, with the second line directly below the first: 1..14 15 16..81 81 I have upgraded to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread chill
Deaf Cat;192684 Wrote: Makes sense :) To replace the jumpers that you did not choose, with the speaker cable you did choose. Cheers Not to labour the point, but doesn't that suppose that the speaker manufacturer made the wrong choice for the jumper specification, and that you know better

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread Deaf Cat
truckfighters;192344 Wrote: I still run single-wiring from the amp to the speakers. But what I changed was the original BW cable bridge on the speaker's bi-wiring terminal and replaced it with short parts of my 10 mm2 redgum speaker cable (without connectors). the overall sound really

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] bybee discussion on ac

2007-04-05 Thread adamslim
Pat Farrell;192521 Wrote: Of course, we sane people have a duty to point out the flaws in the sales scam. Can't we just gently laugh at the people who fall for it? ;) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless a compromise?

2007-04-05 Thread gusi
I don't think itunes supports flac though. You may be better of with apple lossless. Note that you can't tag wav. -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn K5 Stylus

2007-04-05 Thread gusi
If you get a dynavector DV17 the stylus and cantilever are made out of the same piece of diamond and there is even less that can go wrong -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ripping CD's

2007-04-05 Thread Skunk
chill;192622 Wrote: Can someone who understands these things tell me if this is a correct assessmenet? Hydrogen Audio is the best place to get info about EAC, especially if you're wondering about a specific drive. Since you now know the details of your drive, I'd use the c2 setting just to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fast Fourier Transform question

2007-04-05 Thread rbl
I know this is not a good forum to ask this, but on the otherhand I know there are a lot of guys on this forum into DSP etc., and they might know the answer to this. I have an audio signal (say 1V RMS pink noise for the sake of argument) and take say 32768 samples via an ADC. I then perform an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fast Fourier Transform question

2007-04-05 Thread Patrick Dixon
The digital signal is a just representation of the analogue signal, so the answer is, it depends entirely on your ADC circuit and how the bits are processed post ADC. The easiest way is probably to calibrate it with a known input level and signal. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] bybee discussion on ac

2007-04-05 Thread nicketynick
tyler_durden;192627 Wrote: Take comfort in the fact that over the long run evolution will win - it always does. TD Unfortunately, humans have a bad habit of assuming that evolution will result in their further ascendancy. My observation is that this is incorrect - our reproductive

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread Deaf Cat
Its just personal choice, little tweek here, little tweek there...Chill :-) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread chill
Deaf Cat;192724 Wrote: Its just personal choice That's fair enough. Personally I'm rather glad that my hearing isn't good enough to tell what my bi-wiring jumpers are made of - my pockets aren't deep enough! -- chill

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread opaqueice
chill;192727 Wrote: That's fair enough. Personally I'm rather glad that my hearing isn't good enough to tell what my bi-wiring jumpers are made of - my pockets aren't deep enough! You should probably get that checked out - hearing loss so severe you can't even distinguish silver from copper

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] bybee discussion on ac

2007-04-05 Thread tyler_durden
nicketynick;192722 Wrote: Unfortunately, humans have a bad habit of assuming that evolution will result in their further ascendancy. My observation is that this is incorrect - our reproductive prowess is heavily tilted toward the more 'unfit' - with any luck we'll evolve ourselves right off

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread PhilNYC
chill;192687 Wrote: Not to labour the point, but doesn't that suppose that the speaker manufacturer made the wrong choice for the jumper specification, and that you know better than they do? Why on earth would you buy speakers from people who can't design an adequate jumper? What else have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Benchmark USB DAC1

2007-04-05 Thread 325xi
jlmatrat;192625 Wrote: Well, actually it's not so bad. Those are very good news :) The only step you missed is to check SB3 with Lavry vs. stock SB3. It would be very interesting to see how do they compare. -- 325xi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread haunyack
The speaker's internal crossover presents different electrical characteristics to each cable so that one cable carries the signal going to the woofers while the other cable carries the signal to the midrange and tweeter. Does this imply that the amp sees 2 different loads ? Or that the cables

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] bybee discussion on ac

2007-04-05 Thread nicketynick
Amen, brother. -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] bybee discussion on ac

2007-04-05 Thread Patrick Dixon
Tyler, this is just to cheer you up. http://glumbert.com/media/shift -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread Anne
It should see two difference loads, but I cant see why this should matter if you use single binding posts that go into two cables in the amp end. -- Anne Anne's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread opaqueice
Anne;192774 Wrote: ...I cant see why this should matter if you use single binding posts that go into two cables in the amp end. Exactly right - it doesn't. The amp sees one load, but that load will be very slightly different if it is bi-wired (because speaker wires aren't perfect). I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Benchmark USB DAC1

2007-04-05 Thread opaqueice
Thanks - those are very nice plots. The stock SB3 looks pretty damn good, especially the right channel. One question - is it possible the channels were reversed in your SB3 test? I'm wondering whether that little bit of junk in the left channel might be associated with the known problem of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fast Fourier Transform question

2007-04-05 Thread rbl
Many thanks - but the 16bit ADC has a +/- 10V range so I know the exact voltages the digital data represent. From there it should be possible to work out amplitudes. Calibrating is obviously not an optimal solution (although clearly one needs to test it!). -- rbl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Firmware on Multiple SB3's ?

2007-04-05 Thread EFP
whdean;192008 Wrote: Re: Stop it Last time I checked, it was my SB3 and the modded unit that I have does invert the phase. In spite of your eloquence, I believe I will continue to tinker with this until I - Not you - am satisfied. You won't find much help here. Try the witch doctors on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fast Fourier Transform question

2007-04-05 Thread opaqueice
If you have taken N samples, and if the FFT algorithm you're using is consistent with the definition at the start of this article (which is the standard one): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_derivation_of_the_discrete_Fourier_transform then the only normalization is a factor of N (see the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Benchmark USB DAC1

2007-04-05 Thread jlmatrat
325xi;192749 Wrote: The only step you missed is to check stock SB3 with Lavry vs. stock SB3 Stay tuned... JLM -- jlmatrat jlmatrat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10656 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Firmware on Multiple SB3's ?

2007-04-05 Thread Patrick Dixon
whdean;192647 Wrote: I now have 2 lines, with the second line directly below the first: 1..14 15 16..81 81 I have upgraded to SS v.6.5.2 and firmware v.81. I loaded v.15 on both SB3's. I then unplugged the one that I want v.15 to remain on, and changed the version file. I plugged

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Benchmark USB DAC1

2007-04-05 Thread jlmatrat
opaqueice;192782 Wrote: One question - is it possible the channels were reversed in your SB3 test? I'm wondering whether that little bit of junk in the left channel might be associated with the known problem of the display causing noise, but that's only audible in the right channel (at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Firmware on Multiple SB3's ?

2007-04-05 Thread whdean
Patrick - That may work ... I tried loading 15 on the modded unit and unplugging it - Then I loaded 81 on the stock unit. Then I modded the version file to include: 1..15 15 16..81 81 Instead of: 1..81 81 (The original sugestion had the first line as 1..14 15. I made the assumption that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless a compromise?

2007-04-05 Thread creativepart
Apple Lossless (ALAC) is a good compromise to save disk space and to allow full tagging and artwork. iTunes can work with Wav files and covert your files to ALAC. The process is completely reversible (at least that's what I've been told, I haven't tried it). And you can set your Slimserver to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!

2007-04-05 Thread haunyack
opaqueice;192778 Wrote: Exactly right - it doesn't. The amp sees one load, but that load will be very slightly different if it is bi-wired (because speaker wires aren't quite perfect). I think it's fair to say that if you believe different speaker cables sound different, you should also

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fast Fourier Transform question

2007-04-05 Thread rbl
This appears to be spot on - thanks very much. There is only one problem. I find when I do this that if the input is say a single sine wave that corresponds exactly to one frequency bucket then it works fine, irrespective of how many sample points I have. Perfect. But if, e.g., my signal is pink

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Benchmark USB DAC1

2007-04-05 Thread SoftwireEngineer
jlmatrat;192811 Wrote: Stay tuned... JLM Hi JLM, Amazing to see somebody post jitter measurements done by themselves. I expect to see the same improvement with SB3 vs SB3 with Lavry. The improvement in jitter with SB3 vs SB3 with Bolder digital mods + modded Elpac is very obvious to me. Many

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Benchmark USB DAC1

2007-04-05 Thread jlmatrat
Done. Lavry DA10 with stock SB3: a small improvement as expected. I tested again the SB3 alone in order to be sure about the channels. This time, right is right. Lavry DA10 with Terratec Aureon Firewire: any comment? There was no difference between the crystal lock and narrow position on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] bybee discussion on ac

2007-04-05 Thread tomjtx
Patrick Dixon;192762 Wrote: Tyler, this is just to cheer you up. http://glumbert.com/media/shift Great link , Patrick, thanks for that. Tom -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-04-05 Thread taloyd
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-04-05 Thread happy
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24 bit wavs?

2007-04-05 Thread mmg_fan
ok I read this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19740highlight=24+bit+wav but am still not clear on the answer. I've created some 24bit wav's via the chronotron wav plugin for Windows media player. When streamed to my SB3 all I get is loud static. I thought the SB3 could

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD vs HDCD vs DVD-AUDIO, a quick summary?

2007-04-05 Thread DCtoDaylight
While getting a bit off the original question, you are quite right, you can record your own DVD-Audio discs, as long as you don't need the MLP option. Discwelder was the first to offer an affordable package, but since then others have joined in. Steinberg's later Wavelabs (although pricey

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24 bit wavs?

2007-04-05 Thread DCtoDaylight
I can confirm that an SB3 will play 24 bit wav's, I've played many... I'm not familiar with this Chronotron plugin, but have you played these 24 bit wav files in anything else? That would help confirm if the SB3 or the wav's were the problem... I'm assuming your SB3 is running the current

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple Lossless a compromise?

2007-04-05 Thread Eric Seaberg
I've got over 12000 songs in my library so far, and 75% of them are Apple Lossless. I've seriously considered FLAC encoding because of Slim's 'native' playback of that format, but just haven't found any software that tags and maintains my library as well as iTunes does. Playback is NOT a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 is equivalent to which CD Players or DACs?

2007-04-05 Thread gevorg
For those of you who had/have audiophile CD players or DACs, and now using SB3, which of the CD players or DACs is SB equivalent of in terms of sound quality? -- gevorg gevorg's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24 bit wavs?

2007-04-05 Thread Phil Leigh
The plugin produces WAVEX format files that need to be converted to true 24-bit WAV format first (eg by using Audacity) before the SB can play them. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: