Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism Translation

2014-04-23 Thread Syndi T
Cheri, Thank you for the link. Now I have a better idea of how they were written. Syndi -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Manuel Martins
Every parish had a cemetery, the oldest grave was the first to be used, families that had means could by the grave and any family member could be buried there after 7 years, the length of time differed between cemeteries. Some areas decomposed the body faster than others. In Madalena for

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Antonio Roque
My father died in S. Miguel, we bought the plot and did a few things in the grave, had we not done that after 7 years they would have opened up the grave and taken his bones to a crypt On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:02:04 PM UTC-4, Liliana Harris wrote: I had thought I would travel to the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Hi Liliana, It's Nancy Jean because we have several Nancy's on the list. Thank you for the book information. I knew Miriam was about to publish her book. I've never met her but did communicate with her after someone gave her my name as a contact for Pico. She had never been before last year

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread rcapodc
Nancy Jean, Miriam is a good friend of mine! She worked very hard on the book and I think did a wonderful job. Although it is fiction, it is based on her research and her trip to the Azores to visit her roots! I hope that you and others will enjoy the book. Rosemarie From: nancy jean

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Hi Rosemarie, I thought I remembered that she had my name from you but hesitated to say without being sure. She's a very pleasant person and we communicated quite a bit before her trip. I'm looking forward to reading her book and have already called the library! Best to you! Nancy Jean

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Tygerzgirl1976
I'm glad that my great grandparents bought their plot. As well our family was lucky to have a mausoleum to store the bones. I have a relative that works at one if the cemeteries in Graciosa and I never heard him say anything about taking a body that had not decomposed to the ocean. The ritual

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Manuel M, Manuel said: In the old days if a grave is dug and the body was still intact, it was reburied for another 7 years, if it is still intact the body after that time the body it taken and put on a boat and taken out to sea where they would beat the body and dump it in the ocean. I do not

[AZORES-Genealogy] religious items

2014-04-23 Thread Syndi T
Aloha Mike, I'm not sure if there are any specific traditions. Both sides of my family were from the Azores and now I have two rosary beads from each side. My paternal grandmother told me that she was leaving her rosary in my care. It was handed down to the first born girl in the family and

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Hi Cheri, I wondered what he meant by that beat the body.seems like if it hadn't decomposed they'd recommend it for sainthood! More info regarding that would be interesting.when I asked my friend about the bones in the graveyard and I expressed surprise at them being dug up she took a

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread pico
I've heard that to become a saint, they had to have some number of miracles and it's a long process performed in Rome.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Yeah, I think that the body not decomposing is just 1 component to becoming a saint. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:33 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I've heard that to become a saint, they had to have some number of miracles and it's a long process performed in Rome. Doug da Rocha Holmes

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of bride's parents

2014-04-23 Thread Maria Lima
Oh my goodness! I can't believe you found it- I was totally looking in the wrong years over and over. (Duh!). Someone up there is taking pity on me because I was stuck on that this for hours for several days. Oh thank you, Manoel for this great leap Forward. I'm so excited now to find more

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record

2014-04-23 Thread Fred Estrella
I have a marriage record from Lagoa, Sao Miguel, for Ignacio Coehlo and Maria de Souza that I'd like some help with the names of their parents. Here's what I can make out: Married 13 Apr 1643 Ignacio's parents: f. Salvador Roiz m. Catharina Cardoza Maria's parents: f. Pedro de Souza de ? m.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record

2014-04-23 Thread pico
Hi Fred,You have the wrong page. It was on pg.93.The words after each was "desta freguesia" (of this freguesia), except for the bride it also says "tambem desta freguesia" (also of this freguesia).You got the parents of the groom right. Just hope you know Roiz is short for Rodrigues.The bride's

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record

2014-04-23 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello Fred,My two cente worth, in colour Married 13 Apr 1643 Ignacio's parents: f. Salvador Roiz (as Doug already said Rodrigues)m. Catharina Cardoza (Catarina Cardoso)Maria's parents:f. Pedro de Souza ?defunto? (currente spelling Sousa)m. Maria Alves (Alvarez?)They all live or were born in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Isabella Baltar
Manuel, ...taken out to sea where they would beat the body and dump it in the ocean... Where did you read that? Do you have any information? I really would like to learn more about as I never heard this. Even if what you have is written in Portuguese, as it is my primary language. I will

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of bride's parents

2014-04-23 Thread Maria Lima
Oh boy- now I'm wondering if I got the right marriage record for Antonio BOTTEILHO and Antonia in Sao Roque, Rosto do Cao. Married 21 December 1761. I found Antonio's birth record and I COULD NOT FIND Antonia's because I couldn't figure out the parent's names. Then Manoel sent me the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Liliana Harris
I will just send out one thank you to all the people who have shared so many fascinating stories about burial customs. I don't even have any genealogy questions right now, but I keep coming back because this is such an interesting, well-informed group. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:38:19 AM

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of bride's parents

2014-04-23 Thread luiznoia .
I looked through the NEPS site to find a relationship to this Revoredo family. There are no records in Sao Roque that match to them. I tried all the other towns on the island without luck. That leaves Bandeiras and Candelaria to search since they are on the CCA site, but not NEPS. Eric Edgar

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Liliana Harris
Hello Rosemarie, See the message I just sent Nancy Jean. You all do know each other! So, the author is actually a friend of yours! Please thank her for such an good read. She did a fine job of separating what is clearly fact from the fictional backstory, as far as I can see. Liliana On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-23 Thread Liliana Harris
Hi Nancy Jean, You all seem to know each other. I feel like I've stumbled into an extended family. Well, so far the author's research seems to have paid off with all sorts of interesting facts. I hope you enjoy the book, too. Liliana On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:35:00 AM UTC-7, nancy jean

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of bride's parents

2014-04-23 Thread pico
Eric,Use the Madalena concelho link for Bandeiras and Candelaria, as well as Madalena, Criacao Velha, and Sao Mateus.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of

[AZORES-Genealogy] creation of church books

2014-04-23 Thread pico
Here's something I've always wondered about and it would be very interesting if anyone knew the answer.When a baptism, marriage or death record was newly created, say back in 1806 (just a random year), was the page already bound in a volume?I think the answer is no. I imagine the priest had a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of bride's parents

2014-04-23 Thread luiznoia .
I don't know what to make of the fact that the NEPS index shows no Revoredo, no Antonia or Antonio born to a Sousa in 1737., no Teresa related to Oliveira, although it seems clear in the baptism record the are residents. There is no one in the record at all that can be found in the NEPS index