[AZORES-Genealogy] A REALLY BIG PROBLEM

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

when the azores website was down - i tried to find the liandro connection with 
the documents i had downloaded

i got a problem instead

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827_item1/P52.html

first page - bottom

i thought this was the manoel de rezendes baptism i need - but the mother is 
wrong - this is the only time i found her name

i  found manoel's siblings

maria born 1821
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827_item1/P20.html

roza born 1824
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827_item1/P51.html

anna born 1826
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1819-1827_item1/P62.html

francisco born 1828? - do i have the year correct?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1827-1840/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1827-1840_item1/P31.html

so manoel would have to be born between 1822-23

the baptism i had for him above - i had the date 1823 but i think it's 1824

i found this but couldn't make it out - both manoels

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_item1/P194.html

manoel's parents married in 1820

thanks

carmen





  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

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thank you jr

i think this may be her

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P19.html

[second page - last entry]

september 5 1771 ???

Carmen
    


On Mon, 12/5/16, JR  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:07 PM
 
 It turns
 out Agua Retorta baptisms go back 1768, so try there. From
 now on you are going to have to look in both
 churches.
 FDT bap- Antonio,
 filho de Thome Botelho and Marianna de Medeyros nats e
 moradores sitio de Agua Retorta, limite Faial da Terra,
 born- June 13- 1764, bap- June 17, Pad- Manoel de Souza e
 sua mulher Paula Botelho moradores Agua Retorta (Paula
 Botelho is most likely sister of Antonio
 Botelho)
 JR
 
 On Monday, December 5, 2016 at
 3:15:45 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756- 1800_item1/P192.html
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756- 1800_item1/P193.html
 
 
 
 this is the marriage of António Boteilho +
 Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of page and continued next
 page]
 
 
 
 i found António Boteilho's baptism on
 june 13 1764 in faial da terra
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764- 1787_item1/P6.html
 
 
 
 i'm having a hard time finding Victoria
 de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of Francisco de
 Souzaand Guiteria de Medeiros
 
 
 
 i couldn't find any of victoria's
 siblings either
 
 
 
 am i searching in the correct book?
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html

this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of 
page and continued next page]

i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html

i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of 
Francisco de Souza   and Guiteria de Medeiros

i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either

am i searching in the correct book?

thanks

Carmen
    

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_item1/P33.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P113.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860_item1/P38.html

here are the baptism, marriage and death of Jozé de Rezendes

as you can see no grandparents are listed and his mother wasn't married to his 
father

i figure his mother Francisca Medeiros de Resendes had to be born about 1778

i found this and was wondering if this could be her baptism? 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P70.html

july 12, 1781 - di i have this date correct?

does it have her birthdate?

now Jozé de Rezendes has a son Manoel Liandro

i wonder if this is Jozé de Rezendes' father? [first page - second entry]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P72.html

thank you

Carmen
  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi jr

thanks

i didn't get a chance to look in those other places yet but will do tomorrow

Carmen 

  
   
    


On Sat, 12/3/16, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Saturday, December 3, 2016, 11:44 PM
 
 Yes, there
 is a problem. Maria is not to be found on the prescribed
 date of Nov 30- 1793. And her parents are not in the
 expected period. Suggest you look in Povoacao, then
 Nordestinho and Achada. Jose de Aguiar is from Achada and
 married in Nordestinho. But frankly, I suspect error on part
 of priest. 
 Manuel de
 Aguiar, bap 22
 May 1788 in
 Nordestinho, res Faial da Terra. 
 He was the son of 4. Jose de Aguiar and 5. Josefa
 Pereira.  He married 3. Maria de Pimentel de
 Resendes 02 Dec
 1812 in Faial da
 Terra, NS da Graca. 
 
 
 Maria de
 Pimentel de Resendes, bap 30 Nov 1793 in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca. 
 She was the daughter of 6. Antonio de Pimentel and
 7. Antonia
 Marquia ? [probably Margarida or Marques.]
 JR
 
 
 On
 Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 5:57:06 PM UTC-5, carmen
 furtado wrote: http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P69.html
 
   
 
 can't find maria de pimentel's
 baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 1787-1812 
 
 
 
 1791 starts here
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787- 1812_item1/P16.html
 
 
 
 also couldn't find her parents'
 marriage
 
 
 
 is there another parish to search?
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
    
 
     
 
 
 
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 On Tue, 10/18/16, 'carmen furtado'
 via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 
  To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P69.html
 
  
 
  left side
 
  
 
  manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel
 
  
 
  his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho
 + Josefa Perreira -
 
  Nordestinho
 
  
 
  his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho,
 Nordeste
 
  
 
  his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja
 de São Pedro,
 
  Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
  
 
  marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de
 Nossa Senhora da
 
  Penha de França, Água Retorta
 
  
 
  her parents - António de Pimentel -
 Faial da Terra +
 
  Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra
 
  
 
  her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da
 Terra
 
  
 
  her christening - November 30, 1793 -
 Igreja de Nossa
 
  Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra
 
  
 
  i'm taking a wild guess on this
 translation
 
  
 
  please correct my mistakes
 
  
 
  what is the word after maria de pimentel
 and before
 
  filha  
 
  
 
  i could not find a baptism for maria
 
  
 
  where would i look for manoel and
 maria's deaths?
 
  
 
  thank you
 
  
 
  carmen
 
    
 
     
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
  
can't find maria de pimentel's baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 1787-1812 

1791 starts here

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812_item1/P16.html

also couldn't find her parents' marriage

is there another parish to search?

thanks

Carmen
   
    


On Tue, 10/18/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
 
 left side
 
 manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel
 
 his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira -
 Nordestinho
 
 his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
 his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro,
 Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
 marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da
 Penha de França, Água Retorta
 
 her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra +
 Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra
 
 her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra
 
 her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa
 Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra
 
 i'm taking a wild guess on this translation
 
 please correct my mistakes
 
 what is the word after maria de pimentel and before
 filha  
 
 i could not find a baptism for maria
 
 where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths?
 
 thank you
 
 carmen
   
    
     
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

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   #yiv2052606152 CarmanLooking at
 
  
 
   this record again  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
  VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/ SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_
 
  item1/P93.html 
 
  
 
   lower right .  It does not follow the
 
  standard format of
 
  
 
   the obito records before or after. The
 
  entry date of the
 
  
 
   record is 12 Mar 1807 which is in
 
  sequence with the other
 
  
 
   records in the book.  It is beginning to
 
  look like Umbelina
 
  
 
   Jacinta and Francisco da Costa were
 
  getting married and they
 
  
 
   need to find the death record of her late
 
  husband Joao
 
  
 
   Ignacio de Sousa, I can’t make all of
 
  the record out,
 
  
 
   perhaps someone with more experience can.
 
  It talks about
 
  
 
   Jose Ignacio being deceased and had been
 
  married to Umbelina
 
  
 
   Jacinta in the parish stated above (Ponta
 
  Garca), I see
 
  
 
   another date on the record 1801.  I am
 
  convinced that her
 
  
 
   first husband died and could not be the
 
  father of her son
 
  
 
   Joao. The baptism of Joao on 17 Nov 1807
 
  clearly states that
 
  
 
   Francisco da Costa is the father.
 
  
 
      Rick
 
  
 
    Richard Francis PimentelEpping,
 
  
 
   NH  Researching, Riberia Grande,
 
  Riberinha, Achada
 
  
 
   Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, 
 
  Sao Miguel,
 
  
 
   Acores
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
    From: azo...@googlegroups.com
 
  
 
   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com]
 On Behalf Of JR
 
  
 
   Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:44
 
  
 
   PM
 
  
 
   To: Azores Genealogy
 
  
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED
 
  
 
   YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!  Carmen, do
 
  you have a date
 
  
 
   and time for Teresa de Jesus? Her
 
  marriage date, parents,
 
  
 
   etc. I may have something for you if can
 
  link her to my
 
  
 
   database.
 
  
 
    JR
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   On Saturday, November 19, 2016
 
  
 
   at 12:13:46 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis
 
  Pimentel wrote:When did Joao Ignacio de Souza
 
  
 
   die?  If Umbelina Jacinta remarried to
 
  Francisco da Costa
 
  
 
   on 12 Mar 1807 and a son was born 17 Nov
 
  1807 that is only 8
 
  
 
   months. It seems strange that she would
 
  remarry right away I
 
  
 
   think the father of the son is Francisco
 
  da Costa and they
 
  
 
   just jumped the gun getting a family
 
  started. Joao Ignacio
 
  
 
   de Sousa died much earlier to be the
 
  father. As far as the
 
  
 
   name it could have been just one of those
 
  Portuguese naming
 
  
 
   things. 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Rick 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Richard Francis Pimentel 
 
  
 
   Epping, NH 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha,
 
  Achada
 
  
 
   Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,
 
   Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
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   From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
  
 
   Genealogy [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com] 
 
  
 
   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:11 AM 
 
  
 
   To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
 
  
 
   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR
 
  THOUGHTS
 
  
 
   ON THIS !!! 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   my ancestor
 
  
 
   Thereza de Jesús was the daughter of
 
  João Ignácio da
 
  
 
   Rocha and Francisca de Jesús 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   for months i have been trying to find her
 
  
 
   grandparents 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   no info on
 
  
 
   Thereza de Jesús and her siblings
 
  baptisms nor on her and
 
  
 
   her parents obituaries 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   with many thanks to cheri i was able to
 
  find
 
  
 
   her parents' marriage - left side 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P178.html
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   and with many thanks to
 
  
 
   joe matias i was able to find more info
 
  about João Ignácio
 
  
 
   da Rocha and Francisca de Jesús'
 
  parents 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   João Ignácio da Rocha -
 
  
 
   parents -  Francisco da Costa and
 
  Umbelina Jacinta 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Francisca de Jesús - parents
 
  
 
   - Pedro Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de
 
  Jesús 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Francisco da Costa was married
 
  
 
   to Izabel de Jesús - after she died in
 
  1805 he married
 
  
 
    Umbelina Jacinta on march 14, 1807 -
 
  right side 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
  VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/ SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_
 
  item1/P168.html
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Umbelina Jacinta was
 
  
 
   married to João Ignácio da Souza -
 
  after he died on march
 
  
 
   12, 1807 she married Francisco da Costa -
 
  bottom right side
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   http://cultur

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you cheri

my grandmother lived with my family so i could understand it and can speak it a 
little bit

try to teach my grandchildren little words like open the door or close the light

she taught me how to count so i can count up to 100

i couldn't learn the alphabet though - the letter before Z sounded like 
eepsieluna

the months are easy to decipher

i just can't read it

i tried translating her COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO HAND OF THE DEAD book which was 
never published in english years ago on my windows 98 computer before the 
computer died - haven't tried on this one - every time i read the translation i 
could my grandmother's voice saying the words

how i wish she were still here

wonder how many people she knew that i'm finding

Carmen
   
    


On Sun, 11/20/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, November 20, 2016, 11:01 AM
 
 Carmen, Here's a beginning list of words:
 https://goo.gl/P7hNxI
 
 It's all that us
 non-native speakers started with and we added more and more
 words from there, until we learned to "read" it
 ourselves and then help others.
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner,
 Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island:
 Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada
 
 On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at
 4:18 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 morning
 rick
 
 
 
 i believe you solved the mystery
 
 
 
 i cannot read the documents
 
 
 
 i only look for words like mez, filho, filha anno, etc.
 
 
 
 when i was looking for his death i first found this in 1880
 - last entry
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_
 item1/P55.html
 
 
 
 it wasn't continued to the next page and when i found
 his record i thought it was a baby that died
 
 
 
 wonder when it was added to the page
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 On Sat, 11/19/16, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS
 !!!
 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016, 8:18 PM
 
 
 
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  #yiv2052606152 CarmanLooking at
 
  this record again  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_
 item1/P93.html 
 
  lower right .  It does not follow the standard format
 of
 
  the obito records before or after. The entry date of
 the
 
  record is 12 Mar 1807 which is in sequence with the
 other
 
  records in the book.  It is beginning to look like
 Umbelina
 
  Jacinta and Francisco da Costa were getting married and
 they
 
  need to find the death record of her late husband Joao
 
  Ignacio de Sousa, I can’t make all of the record out,
 
  perhaps someone with more experience can. It talks
 about
 
  Jose Ignacio being deceased and had been married to
 Umbelina
 
  Jacinta in the parish stated above (Ponta Garca), I see
 
  another date on the record 1801.  I am convinced that
 her
 
  first husband died and could not be the father of her
 son
 
  Joao. The baptism of Joao on 17 Nov 1807 clearly states
 that
 
  Francisco da Costa is the father.
 
     Rick
 
   Richard Francis PimentelEpping,
 
  NH  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada
 
  Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel,
 
  Acores
 
   
 
 
 
   From: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  [mailto:azores@googlegroups.
 com] On Behalf Of JR
 
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:44
 
  PM
 
  To: Azores Genealogy
 
  Subject: R

(Manoel de Medeiros + Barbara Furtado)Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

Riberinha, Achada
 
  Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, 
 Sao Miguel,
 
  Acores
 
   
 
   
 
   From: azo...@googlegroups.com
 
  [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com] On Behalf Of JR
 
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:44
 
  PM
 
  To: Azores Genealogy
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED
 
  YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!  Carmen, do
 you have a date
 
  and time for Teresa de Jesus? Her
 marriage date, parents,
 
  etc. I may have something for you if can
 link her to my
 
  database.
 
   JR
 
  
 
  On Saturday, November 19, 2016
 
  at 12:13:46 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis
 Pimentel wrote:When did Joao Ignacio de Souza
 
  die?  If Umbelina Jacinta remarried to
 Francisco da Costa
 
  on 12 Mar 1807 and a son was born 17 Nov
 1807 that is only 8
 
  months. It seems strange that she would
 remarry right away I
 
  think the father of the son is Francisco
 da Costa and they
 
  just jumped the gun getting a family
 started. Joao Ignacio
 
  de Sousa died much earlier to be the
 father. As far as the
 
  name it could have been just one of those
 Portuguese naming
 
  things. 
 
  
 
  Rick 
 
  
 
  Richard Francis Pimentel 
 
  Epping, NH 
 
  
 
  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha,
 Achada
 
  Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,
  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  -Original Message- 
 
  From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
  Genealogy [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com] 
 
  Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:11 AM 
 
  To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR
 THOUGHTS
 
  ON THIS !!! 
 
  
 
  my ancestor
 
  Thereza de Jesús was the daughter of
 João Ignácio da
 
  Rocha and Francisca de Jesús 
 
  
 
  for months i have been trying to find her
 
  grandparents 
 
  
 
  no info on
 
  Thereza de Jesús and her siblings
 baptisms nor on her and
 
  her parents obituaries 
 
  
 
  with many thanks to cheri i was able to
 find
 
  her parents' marriage - left side 
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P178.html
 
  
 
  
 
  and with many thanks to
 
  joe matias i was able to find more info
 about João Ignácio
 
  da Rocha and Francisca de Jesús'
 parents 
 
  
 
  João Ignácio da Rocha -
 
  parents -  Francisco da Costa and
 Umbelina Jacinta 
 
  
 
  Francisca de Jesús - parents
 
  - Pedro Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de
 Jesús 
 
  
 
  Francisco da Costa was married
 
  to Izabel de Jesús - after she died in
 1805 he married
 
   Umbelina Jacinta on march 14, 1807 -
 right side 
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_
 item1/P168.html
 
  
 
  
 
  Umbelina Jacinta was
 
  married to João Ignácio da Souza -
 after he died on march
 
  12, 1807 she married Francisco da Costa -
 bottom right side
 
  
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_
 item1/P93.html
 
  
 
  
 
  their son João Ignácio
 
  da Rocha was born november 17, 1807 - top
 right side 
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_ item1/P185.html
 
  
 
  
 
  i hope i have these dates
 
  correct 
 
  
 
  it seems strange
 
  to me that umbelina would name João
 after her first husband
 
  
 
  
 
  on all of João Ignácio
 
  da Rocha's children's baptisms
 his name was listed
 
  as João Ignácio or João Ignácio da
 Rocha - no mention of
 
  da Costa 
 
  
 
  Umbelina
 
  Jacinta's parents were Amaro da Rocha
 + Josefa Marianna
 
  - still have to find her parents marriage
 
 
  
 
  so my dilemma is - is João
 
  Ignácio da Rocha's father João
 Ignácio da Souza or
 
  Francisco da Costa? 
 
  
 
  what
 
  do you think? 
 
  
 
  thank you
 
  
 
  
 
  Carmen 
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

morning jr

yes you are correct

Carmen
  
   
    


On Sun, 11/20/16, JR  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Sunday, November 20, 2016, 12:20 AM
 
 Ok, do I
 have this right:
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1856-1860/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1856-1860_item1/P57.html
 VFSM casamentos- page 53 verso, May
 10- 1860Jacinto Luiz, filho de Joao Luiz, ja
 defunto, and Umbelina de Jesus com, Theresa de Jesus, filha
 de Joao Ignacio da Rocha and Francisca de Jesus, ja
 defuntos, ambos batizados, elle VFSM, ella, Menino Deos de
 Ribeira das Tainhas; Test- Jose de Medeiros and
 Antonio Bento, casados, freg desta prioral.
 Certified- July 20- 1860.
 On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 10:11:25 AM
 UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:my ancestor Thereza de Jesús was
 the daughter of João Ignácio da Rocha and Francisca de
 Jesús
 
 
 
 for months i have been trying to find her
 grandparents
 
 
 
 no info on Thereza de Jesús and her
 siblings baptisms nor on her and her parents obituaries
 
 
 
 with many thanks to cheri i was able to
 find her parents' marriage - left side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P178.html
 
 
 
 and with many thanks to joe matias i was
 able to find more info about João Ignácio da Rocha and
 Francisca de Jesús' parents
 
 
 
 João Ignácio da Rocha - parents - 
 Francisco da Costa and Umbelina Jacinta
 
 
 
 Francisca de Jesús - parents - Pedro
 Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de Jesús
 
 
 
 Francisco da Costa was married to Izabel de
 Jesús - after she died in 1805 he married  Umbelina
 Jacinta on march 14, 1807 - right side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_
 item1/P168.html
 
 
 
 Umbelina Jacinta was married to João
 Ignácio da Souza - after he died on march 12, 1807 she
 married Francisco da Costa - bottom right side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_
 item1/P93.html
 
 
 
 their son João Ignácio da Rocha was born
 november 17, 1807 - top right side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_ item1/P185.html
 
 
 
 i hope i have these dates correct
 
 
 
 it seems strange to me that umbelina would
 name João after her first husband
 
 
 
 on all of João Ignácio da Rocha's
 children's baptisms his name was listed as João
 Ignácio or João Ignácio da Rocha - no mention of da Costa
 
 
 
 Umbelina Jacinta's parents were Amaro
 da Rocha + Josefa Marianna - still have to find her parents
 marriage
 
 
 
 so my dilemma is - is João Ignácio da
 Rocha's father João Ignácio da Souza or Francisco da
 Costa?
 
 
 
 what do you think?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

morning rick

i believe you solved the mystery

i cannot read the documents 

i only look for words like mez, filho, filha anno, etc.

when i was looking for his death i first found this in 1880 - last entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P55.html

it wasn't continued to the next page and when i found his record i thought it 
was a baby that died

wonder when it was added to the page

thanks

Carmen
  
   
    


On Sat, 11/19/16, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016, 8:18 PM
 
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 this record again  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html
 
 lower right .  It does not follow the standard format of
 the obito records before or after. The entry date of the
 record is 12 Mar 1807 which is in sequence with the other
 records in the book.  It is beginning to look like Umbelina
 Jacinta and Francisco da Costa were getting married and they
 need to find the death record of her late husband Joao
 Ignacio de Sousa, I can’t make all of the record out,
 perhaps someone with more experience can. It talks about
 Jose Ignacio being deceased and had been married to Umbelina
 Jacinta in the parish stated above (Ponta Garca), I see
 another date on the record 1801.  I am convinced that her
 first husband died and could not be the father of her son
 Joao. The baptism of Joao on 17 Nov 1807 clearly states that
 Francisco da Costa is the father.
    Rick
  Richard Francis PimentelEpping,
 NH  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada
 Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel,
 Acores
  
  
  From: azores@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JR
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:44
 PM
 To: Azores Genealogy
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED
 YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!  Carmen, do you have a date
 and time for Teresa de Jesus? Her marriage date, parents,
 etc. I may have something for you if can link her to my
 database.
  JR
 
 On Saturday, November 19, 2016
 at 12:13:46 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:When did Joao Ignacio de 
Souza
 die?  If Umbelina Jacinta remarried to Francisco da Costa
 on 12 Mar 1807 and a son was born 17 Nov 1807 that is only 8
 months. It seems strange that she would remarry right away I
 think the father of the son is Francisco da Costa and they
 just jumped the gun getting a family started. Joao Ignacio
 de Sousa died much earlier to be the father. As far as the
 name it could have been just one of those Portuguese naming
 things. 
 
 Rick 
 
 Richard Francis Pimentel 
 Epping, NH 
 
 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada
 Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:11 AM 
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS
 ON THIS !!! 
 
 my ancestor
 Thereza de Jesús was the daughter of João Ignácio da
 Rocha and Francisca de Jesús 
 
 for months i have been trying to find her
 grandparents 
 
 no info on
 Thereza de Jesús and her siblings baptisms nor on her and
 her parents obituaries 
 
 with many thanks to cheri i was able to find
 her parents' marriage - left side 
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P178.html
 
 
 and with many thanks to
 joe matias i was able to find more info about João Ignácio
 da Rocha and Francisca de Jesús' parents 
 
 João Ignácio da Rocha -
 parents -  Francisco da Costa and Um

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi jr

here's what i have on thereza de jesus - wife of jacinto luiz

Thereza de Jesús
(daughter of João Ignácio da Rocha and Francisca de Jesús)
b. Monday, February 16, 1846 - Vila Franca do Campo, Vila Franca do Campo, 
Island of Saint Michael, Azores, Kingdom of Portugal
c. Sunday, February 22, 1846 - Igreja do Bom Jesús Menino, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Vila Franca do Campo, Island of Saint Michael, Azores, Kingdom of Portugal
d.unknown - Vila Franca do Campo, Vila Franca do Campo, Island of Saint 
Michael, Azores, Kingdom of Portugal

she must have died before 1899 as my grandmother never mentioned her - her 
maternal grandparents were still living when she came to america

Carmen
  
   
    


On Sat, 11/19/16, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016, 1:43 PM
 
 Carmen, do
 you have a date and time for Teresa de Jesus? Her marriage
 date, parents, etc. I may have something for you if can link
 her to my database.
 JR
 
 On Saturday, November 19, 2016
 at 12:13:46 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel
 wrote:When did Joao Ignacio de Souza die?
  If Umbelina Jacinta remarried to Francisco da Costa on 12
 Mar 1807 and a son was born 17 Nov 1807 that is only 8
 months. It seems strange that she would remarry right away I
 think the father of the son is Francisco da Costa and they
 just jumped the gun getting a family started. Joao Ignacio
 de Sousa died much earlier to be the father. As far as the
 name it could have been just one of those Portuguese naming
 things.
 
 
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 
 Epping, NH
 
 
 
 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha,
 Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel,
 Acores
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com] 
 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:11 AM
 
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR
 THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 
 
 
 my ancestor Thereza de Jesús was the
 daughter of João Ignácio da Rocha and Francisca de Jesús
 
 
 
 for months i have been trying to find her
 grandparents
 
 
 
 no info on Thereza de Jesús and her
 siblings baptisms nor on her and her parents obituaries
 
 
 
 with many thanks to cheri i was able to
 find her parents' marriage - left side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P178.html
 
 
 
 and with many thanks to joe matias i was
 able to find more info about João Ignácio da Rocha and
 Francisca de Jesús' parents
 
 
 
 João Ignácio da Rocha - parents -
  Francisco da Costa and Umbelina Jacinta
 
 
 
 Francisca de Jesús - parents - Pedro
 Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de Jesús
 
 
 
 Francisco da Costa was married to Izabel de
 Jesús - after she died in 1805 he married  Umbelina
 Jacinta on march 14, 1807 - right side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_
 item1/P168.html
 
 
 
 Umbelina Jacinta was married to João
 Ignácio da Souza - after he died on march 12, 1807 she
 married Francisco da Costa - bottom right side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_
 item1/P93.html
 
 
 
 their son João Ignácio da Rocha was born
 november 17, 1807 - top right side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_ item1/P185.html
 
 
 
 i hope i have these dates correct
 
 
 
 it seems strange to me that umbelina would
 name João after her first husband
 
 
 
 on all of João Ignácio da Rocha's
 children's baptisms his name was listed as João
 Ignácio or João Ignácio da Rocha - no mention of da Costa
 
 
 
 Umbelina Jacinta's parents were Amaro
 da Rocha + Josefa Marianna - still have to find her parents
 marriage
 
 
 
 so my dilemma is - is João Ignácio da
 Rocha's father João Ignácio da Souza or Francisco da
 Costa?
 
 
 
 what do you think?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi rick

here's Joao Ignacio de Sousa's death 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html

does it say he died on march 12, 1807 or is there another date? does the record 
say what he died of?

here's the marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P168.html

marriage march 15, 1807






Carmen
   
    


On Sat, 11/19/16, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
 When did Joao Ignacio de
 Souza die?  If Umbelina Jacinta remarried to Francisco da
 Costa on 12 Mar 1807 and a son was born 17 Nov 1807 that is
 only 8 months. It seems strange that she would remarry right
 away I think the father of the son is Francisco da Costa and
 they just jumped the gun getting a family started. Joao
 Ignacio de Sousa died much earlier to be the father. As far
 as the name it could have been just one of those Portuguese
 naming things.
 
 Rick
 
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Epping, NH
 
 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada
 Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel,
 Acores
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores
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 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:11 AM
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS
 ON THIS !!!
 
 my ancestor
 Thereza de Jesús was the daughter of João Ignácio da
 Rocha and Francisca de Jesús
 
 for months i have been trying to find her
 grandparents
 
 no info on
 Thereza de Jesús and her siblings baptisms nor on her and
 her parents obituaries
 
 with
 many thanks to cheri i was able to find her parents'
 marriage - left side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P178.html
 
 and with many thanks to joe
 matias i was able to find more info about João Ignácio da
 Rocha and Francisca de Jesús' parents
 
 João Ignácio da Rocha -
 parents -  Francisco da Costa and Umbelina Jacinta
 
 Francisca de Jesús - parents
 - Pedro Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de Jesús
 
 Francisco da Costa was married
 to Izabel de Jesús - after she died in 1805 he married 
 Umbelina Jacinta on march 14, 1807 - right side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P168.html
 
 Umbelina Jacinta was married
 to João Ignácio da Souza - after he died on march 12, 1807
 she married Francisco da Costa - bottom right side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html
 
 their son João Ignácio da
 Rocha was born november 17, 1807 - top right side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_item1/P185.html
 
 i hope i have these dates
 correct
 
 it seems strange to
 me that umbelina would name João after her first husband
 
 on all of João Ignácio da
 Rocha's children's baptisms his name was listed as
 João Ignácio or João Ignácio da Rocha - no mention of da
 Costa
 
 Umbelina
 Jacinta's parents were Amaro da Rocha + Josefa Marianna
 - still have to find her parents marriage
 
 so my dilemma is - is João
 Ignácio da Rocha's father João Ignácio da Souza or
 Francisco da Costa?
 
 what do
 you think?
 
 thank you
 
 Carmen
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

my ancestor Thereza de Jesús was the daughter of João Ignácio da Rocha and 
Francisca de Jesús

for months i have been trying to find her grandparents

no info on Thereza de Jesús and her siblings baptisms nor on her and her 
parents obituaries

with many thanks to cheri i was able to find her parents' marriage - left side

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P178.html

and with many thanks to joe matias i was able to find more info about João 
Ignácio da Rocha and Francisca de Jesús' parents

João Ignácio da Rocha - parents -  Francisco da Costa and Umbelina Jacinta

Francisca de Jesús - parents - Pedro Furtado Fontes and Lourianna de Jesús

Francisco da Costa was married to Izabel de Jesús - after she died in 1805 he 
married  Umbelina Jacinta on march 14, 1807 - right side

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P168.html

Umbelina Jacinta was married to João Ignácio da Souza - after he died on march 
12, 1807 she married Francisco da Costa - bottom right side

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html

their son João Ignácio da Rocha was born november 17, 1807 - top right side

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_item1/P185.html

i hope i have these dates correct

it seems strange to me that umbelina would name João after her first husband

on all of João Ignácio da Rocha's children's baptisms his name was listed as 
João Ignácio or João Ignácio da Rocha - no mention of da Costa

Umbelina Jacinta's parents were Amaro da Rocha + Josefa Marianna - still have 
to find her parents marriage

so my dilemma is - is João Ignácio da Rocha's father João Ignácio da Souza or 
Francisco da Costa?

what do you think?

thank you

Carmen

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

forgot to ask who her mother's parents were

i can make out izabel furtado

i can't make out the father's name

my next post will have more info

thanks again

Carmen
   
    


On Fri, 11/18/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 9:01 AM
 
 Yes,
 that's her baptism and obit record.  The 1816 is a
 certification.  It means her birth record was requested and
 certified in 1816.  It could be for many reasons.  a)
 inheritance b) a child or husband needed proof of birth.
 Should you find this certification on her husband's
 birth record or one of their children, you will know it was
 an inheritance or other legal matters. If they owned a home
 together and he remarried, there would be a need to set the
 records straight...etc.
 Nothing in the obit refers to
 his remarriage.  It does say her age was 38 years old. If
 you suspect he did marry again, you can start searching
 shortly after her death date, especially if there were
 children, a man would usually remarry shortly after.  It
 may not be in the same town though, which makes it hard to
 find.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 8:27 AM, carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 does this look like to be her baptism
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799_
 item1/P46.html
 
 
 
 what is the november 13 1816 about?
 
 
 
 i thought this was her obituary
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_ item1/P245.html
 
 
 
 as her husband francisco da costa got married again in
 1807
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 On Fri, 11/18/16, Margaret
 Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 
  Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 6:36 AM
 
 
 
  She is of
 
  father incognito and mother is Margarida Ignacia
 (Inacia)
 
  already deceased.
 
  On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 
  6:08 AM, carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  thank you
 
  margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is her father incognito
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Thu, 11/17/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 MARRIAGE
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen,
 
 
 
   Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 
 
 
   You're
 
 
 
   welcome.Margaret
 
 
 
   On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 
 
 
   3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy
 
  <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
 
 
   VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   what are her parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila
 franca
 
  but
 
 
 
   couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

does this look like to be her baptism

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799_item1/P46.html

what is the november 13 1816 about?

i thought this was her obituary

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P245.html

as her husband francisco da costa got married again in 1807

thank you

Carmen
  
   
    


On Fri, 11/18/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 6:36 AM
 
 She is of
 father incognito and mother is Margarida Ignacia (Inacia)
 already deceased.
 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 6:08 AM, carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 thank you
 margaret
 
 
 
 is her father incognito
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 On Thu, 11/17/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
  Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 
  You're
 
  welcome.Margaret
 
  On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 
  3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what are her parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca
 but
 
  couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you margaret

is her father incognito

Carmen
  
   
    


On Thu, 11/17/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 Carmen,
 Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 You're
 welcome.Margaret
 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 what are her parents names
 
 
 
 i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but
 couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P257.html

francisco da costa and izabel de jesus

what are her parents names

i can see margarida ignacia

i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but couldn't find any 
izabels

what is that sao pedro about?

thank you 

carmen






Carmen
  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIRTHS AND MARRIAGES BEFORE 1839 FOR Ribeira das Tainhas

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you cheri

all i have is baptisms - so i just checked the first baptism and it said the 
parents were from the matriz parish

so i'm off to check for more baptisms

:)

Carmen
   
    


On Tue, 11/15/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIRTHS AND MARRIAGES BEFORE 1839 FOR Ribeira 
das Tainhas
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2016, 11:54 AM
 
 I know
 that Carmen. I've done a lot of research in Ribeira das
 Tainhas. As I worked my way back in time, the record that I
 found in Ribeira das Tainhas told me that the person I was
 after was from Ribeira Quente. So that's where I went.
 However, I answered your question the first time.
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at
 8:47 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 cheri
 
 
 
 the records for Ribeira das Tainhas start at 1839
 
 
 
 was wondering where the records before that got recorded
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 On Tue, 11/15/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIRTHS AND MARRIAGES
 BEFORE 1839 FOR Ribeira das Tainhas
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2016, 11:41 AM
 
 
 
  Depends on
 
  what the record says. Many are Sao Miguel Arcanjo
 church.
 
 
 
 
 
  Cheri Mello
 
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
 
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 
  Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at
 
  8:16 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  morning
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  where do i find births and marriages before 1839 in
 Ribeira
 
  das Tainhas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIRTHS AND MARRIAGES BEFORE 1839 FOR Ribeira das Tainhas

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi cheri

the records for Ribeira das Tainhas start at 1839

was wondering where the records before that got recorded

thanks

carmen
   
    


On Tue, 11/15/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIRTHS AND MARRIAGES BEFORE 1839 FOR Ribeira 
das Tainhas
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2016, 11:41 AM
 
 Depends on
 what the record says. Many are Sao Miguel Arcanjo church.
 
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at
 8:16 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 morning
 
 
 
 where do i find births and marriages before 1839 in Ribeira
 das Tainhas?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] BIRTHS AND MARRIAGES BEFORE 1839 FOR Ribeira das Tainhas

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morning

where do i find births and marriages before 1839 in Ribeira das Tainhas?

thank you 

Carmen
  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you ever so much bill

i didn't know where to look

do i have the correct dates?

born in may 17 1770

baptized may 27 1770

Carmen
  
   
    


On Fri, 11/11/16, bsei2...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Friday, November 11, 2016, 3:58 PM
 
 It
 says he is from Vila Franca--Sao Pedro.
 I believe I found it here 
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1750-1776/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1750-1776_item1/P216.htmlIt
 looks like the mother is
 named as Margarida Jacome on this instead of Margarida de
 Oliveira.
 Bill
 Seidler
 
 
 
 On Friday, November
 11, 2016 at 10:26:54 AM UTC-8, carmen furtado
 wrote:hi
 linda
 
 
 
 thank you ever so much
 
 
 
 i found maria's baptism
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1767-1775/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1767-1775_ item1/P152.html
 
 
 
 born - september 2 1775
 
 
 
 baptized -  september 27 1775
 
 
 
 do i have these dates correct?
 
 
 
 i could not find a baptism for her husband
 Francisco Luiz nor any of his siblings
 
 
 
 does their marriage give a clue as to where
 he was from
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P221.html
 
 
 
 march 24 1795
 
 
 
 i see sao pedro but he wasn't on the
 baptism indexes
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
    
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Wed, 11/9/16, linda 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP
 WITH PARENTS NAMES
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 
  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 6:39
 PM
 
  
 
  
 
  Hi Carmen,
 
  
 
  It's a confusing record because the
 priest
 
  made an error then corrected himself. 
 Where he wrote
 
  "digo"-- "I [meant to]
 say"-- is where
 
  he started over:
 
  
 
  "Francisco Luis filho de Antonio
 Luis e
 
  de Josefa do Espirito Santo com Maria da
 Ro
 
  sario filha digo
 
  Franco Luis filho de Joao Luis e
 
  de
 
  Margarida de Oliveira com Maria da Ro
 
  sario
 
  filha de Antonio Luis e de Josefa do
 Espiri
 
  to Santo"
 
  
 
  Groom: Francisco Luis, son of Joao Luis
 and
 
  Margarida de Oliveira
 
  Bride: Maria da
 
  Rosario, daughter of Antonio Luis and
 Josefa do Espirito
 
  Santo
 
  
 
  hope that's
 
  helpful,
 
  
 
  Linda
 
  
 
  
 
  On Wednesday,
 
  November 9, 2016 at 12:31:07 PM UTC-8,
 carmen furtado
 
  wrote:http://culturacores.
 azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P221.html
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  francisco luiz marriage
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  his parents are António Luiz
 
  andJosefa do Espírito
 Santo
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  what are Maria do Rozário's parents
 
  names?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  then everything gets confusing with the
 
  names
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  thank you
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  carmen
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
     
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi linda

thank you ever so much

i found maria's baptism

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1767-1775/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1767-1775_item1/P152.html

born - september 2 1775

baptized -  september 27 1775

do i have these dates correct?

i could not find a baptism for her husband Francisco Luiz nor any of his 
siblings

does their marriage give a clue as to where he was from

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html

march 24 1795

i see sao pedro but he wasn't on the baptism indexes

thank you

Carmen
   
    



On Wed, 11/9/16, linda  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 6:39 PM
 
 
 Hi Carmen,
 
 It's a confusing record because the priest
 made an error then corrected himself.  Where he wrote
 "digo"-- "I [meant to] say"-- is where
 he started over:
 
 "Francisco Luis filho de Antonio Luis e
 de Josefa do Espirito Santo com Maria da Ro
 sario filha digo
 Franco Luis filho de Joao Luis e
 de
 Margarida de Oliveira com Maria da Ro
 sario
 filha de Antonio Luis e de Josefa do Espiri
 to Santo"
 
 Groom: Francisco Luis, son of Joao Luis and
 Margarida de Oliveira
 Bride: Maria da
 Rosario, daughter of Antonio Luis and Josefa do Espirito
 Santo
 
 hope that's
 helpful,
 
 Linda
 
 
 On Wednesday,
 November 9, 2016 at 12:31:07 PM UTC-8, carmen furtado
 wrote:http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P221.html
 
 
 
 francisco luiz marriage
 
 
 
 his parents are António Luiz
 andJosefa do Espírito Santo
 
 
 
 what are Maria do Rozário's parents
 names?
 
 
 
 João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?
 
 
 
 then everything gets confusing with the
 names
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
    
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you margaret

i didn't notice that you supplied a link

that one was a hard one for me to find

thought she was a foundling

carmen



  
   
    


On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>, azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 3:20 PM
 
 Carmen you have the wrong
 Antonia.  I sent the right link previous email, bottom left
 3 pages up from this one # 86.  
 On Wed, Nov
 9, 2016 at 3:14 PM carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 thank you margaret
 
 
 
 i found this but can't find the month on it
 
 
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html
 
 
 
 maria
 
 
 
 does it have may on it?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
 
 
 
  Nothing
 
  else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
 
  AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  joze da costa - antonia margarida
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  october 6, 1816
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
 
  Conceição
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find
 a
 
  baptism record in matriz villa franca
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is something else listed in this record where to find
 her
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html

francisco luiz marriage

his parents are António Luiz andJosefa do Espírito Santo

what are Maria do Rozário's parents names?

João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?

then everything gets confusing with the names

thank you

carmen







  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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thank you margaret

i found this but can't find the month on it

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html

maria

does it have may on it?

thank you

carmen

 
  
   
    


On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
 
 Nothing
 else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
 
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
 
 
 
 joze da costa - antonia margarida
 
 
 
 october 6, 1816
 
 
 
 his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
 
 
 
 her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
 Conceição
 
 
 
 i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a
 baptism record in matriz villa franca
 
 
 
 is something else listed in this record where to find her
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html

joze da costa - antonia margarida

october 6, 1816

his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria

her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da Conceição

i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a baptism record in 
matriz villa franca

is something else listed in this record where to find her

thank you

carmen





  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi cheri

i went to tombo.pt

all i get is passports

is that all there is?

thanks

Carmen
  
   
    


On Sun, 11/6/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 3:08 PM
 
 tombo.pt
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at
 11:49 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 cheri
 
 
 
 how do i access tombo?
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Sun, 11/6/16, Cheri Mello
 <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra
 FOR THIS ONE?
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 1:06 PM
 
 
 
  Someone is
 
  not using Tombo.pt. Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca
 is
 
  partially indexed.
 
 
 
  Cheri Mello
 
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
 
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 
  Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
 
  On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 9:48
 
  AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  hi
 
  margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i went through all the baptisms from 1795-1801
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i found jacinta's baptism - she was born in 1804
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i'll check 1801 to 1805
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i was searching only the parents names of antonio da
 costa
 
  and umbelina francisca
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  should i look for names with oliviera too?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Sun, 11/6/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da
 Terra
 
  FOR THIS ONE?
 
 
 
   To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
 
 
   Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 10:36 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen, the groom on the
 
 
 
   left hand side is
 
 
 
   Jacinto Soares de
 
 
 
   Oliveira and he along with his bride are naturals of
 
  Vila
 
 
 
   Franca.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   One thing to note
 
 
 
   is that both of his parents are deceased which might
 
 
 
   indicate he may be older than you're allowing for
 
  in
 
 
 
   your search range.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Sun, Nov
 
 
 
   6, 2016 at 10:18 AM 'carmen furtado' via
 Azores
 
 
 
   Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   forgot to
 
 
 
   mention that his daughter's birth and marriage
 list
 
  him
 
 
 
   as being from villa franca
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i figure he was born about 1799
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i searched over 400 pages yesterday in villa franca
 
  matriz
 
 
 
   and couldn't find his baptism
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   wondering if his marriage gave any info as to where
 he
 
  was
 
 
 
   from
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P45.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   --------- - ------
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Sat, 11/5/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
 
 
   Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da
 Terra
 
  FOR
 
 
 
   THIS ONE?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Date: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 2:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    jacinto soares marriage on the
 left
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    hand side
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P45.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi jr

i couldn't make out the marriage too good - bad eyes

it looked like the word graca - so that's why i started searching faial da terra

joe matias sent me the link

oh happy day i can sleep better tonight

thanks

carmen    


On Sun, 11/6/16, JR  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 3:21 PM
 
 The
 marriage should had me going. It did not specify the village
 and there are two with the NS da Graca, Porto Formoso and
 Faial da Terra.
 JR
 
 On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at
 3:08:50 PM UTC-5, joe m wrote:Here is the link for
 Jacinto Soares Oliveira.http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/
 SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800- 1816_item1/P24.html
 
 On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:26
 PM, JR  wrote:
 Yes the record says
 Jacinto was born in Faial da Terra abt 1800, based on his
 age at marriage.
 JR
 
 On Saturday, November 5, 2016
 at 3:52:44 PM UTC-4, carmen furtado wrote:jacinto soares marriage on the left
 hand side
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P45.html
 
 
 
 do i search in Faial da Terra to find his
 baptism?
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

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hi cheri

how do i access tombo?

thanks

Carmen
  
   
    


On Sun, 11/6/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 1:06 PM
 
 Someone is
 not using Tombo.pt. Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca is
 partially indexed.
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 9:48
 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 i went through all the baptisms from 1795-1801
 
 
 
 i found jacinta's baptism - she was born in 1804
 
 
 
 i'll check 1801 to 1805
 
 
 
 i was searching only the parents names of antonio da costa
 and umbelina francisca
 
 
 
 should i look for names with oliviera too?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Sun, 11/6/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra
 FOR THIS ONE?
 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 10:36 AM
 
 
 
  Carmen, the groom on the
 
  left hand side is
 
  Jacinto Soares de
 
  Oliveira and he along with his bride are naturals of
 Vila
 
  Franca.
 
 
 
  One thing to note
 
  is that both of his parents are deceased which might
 
  indicate he may be older than you're allowing for
 in
 
  your search range.
 
 
 
  Margaret
 
 
 
  On Sun, Nov
 
  6, 2016 at 10:18 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
  Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  forgot to
 
  mention that his daughter's birth and marriage list
 him
 
  as being from villa franca
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i figure he was born about 1799
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i searched over 400 pages yesterday in villa franca
 matriz
 
  and couldn't find his baptism
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  wondering if his marriage gave any info as to where he
 was
 
  from
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P45.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Sat, 11/5/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
  Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra
 FOR
 
  THIS ONE?
 
 
 
   To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 
 
 
   Date: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 2:52 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   jacinto soares marriage on the left
 
 
 
   hand side
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_ item1/P45.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

i went through all the baptisms from 1795-1801

i found jacinta's baptism - she was born in 1804

i'll check 1801 to 1805

i was searching only the parents names of antonio da costa and umbelina 
francisca

should i look for names with oliviera too?

thank you

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On Sun, 11/6/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, November 6, 2016, 10:36 AM
 
 Carmen, the groom on the
 left hand side is 
 Jacinto Soares de
 Oliveira and he along with his bride are naturals of Vila
 Franca.  
 
 One thing to note
 is that both of his parents are deceased which might
 indicate he may be older than you're allowing for in
 your search range.
 
 Margaret
 
 On Sun, Nov
 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 forgot to
 mention that his daughter's birth and marriage list him
 as being from villa franca
 
 
 
 i figure he was born about 1799
 
 
 
 i searched over 400 pages yesterday in villa franca matriz
 and couldn't find his baptism
 
 
 
 wondering if his marriage gave any info as to where he was
 from
 
 
 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR
 THIS ONE?
 
  To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 2:52 PM
 
 
 
  jacinto soares marriage on the left
 
  hand side
 
 
 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
 
 
 
  do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?
 
 
 
  thanks
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

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forgot to mention that his daughter's birth and marriage list him as being from 
villa franca

i figure he was born about 1799

i searched over 400 pages yesterday in villa franca matriz and couldn't find 
his baptism

wondering if his marriage gave any info as to where he was from

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 2:52 PM
 
 jacinto soares marriage on the left
 hand side
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
 
 do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?
 
 thanks
 
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jacinto soares marriage on the left hand side

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?

thanks

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i just finished searching sao pedro's births fom 1776 to 1798

i could only find 4 ignacias

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P140.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P143.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P145.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P151.html

is there some way to find which one was adopted by  manoel rodriques and maria 
sao joao?

thanks

Carmen
   
    


On Tue, 11/1/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016, 6:31 PM
 
 i was looking for something else and
 came across this one
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html
 
 marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria
 
 so i went looking for his baptism
 
 is this it?
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html
 
 the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793
 - this was the only one
 
 wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off
 
 the marriage for her has paes incognito
 
 what is the word after Ignácia Maria?
 
 here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html
 
 says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and
 maria sao joao
 
 i'll try to find her
 
 thank you
 
 carmen
 
 found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
    
     
 
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i was looking for something else and came across this one

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html

marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria

so i went looking for his baptism

is this it?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html

the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793 - this was the only 
one

wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off

the marriage for her has paes incognito

what is the word after Ignácia Maria?

here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html

says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and maria sao joao

i'll try to find her

thank you

carmen

found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html








  
   
    

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[AZORES-Genealogy] STUCK ON THESE

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birth of maria

second page - first entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html

marriage of maria

last on second page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869_item1/P169.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869_item1/P170.html

i am trying to find her parents and marriage date - Manoel Rodriques + 
Prudência Rosa

i've been searching magdalena in pico

all i could find is 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P289.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P12.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P57.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P128.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P129.html

i believe mauricio is jose - his godfather is jose mauricio

i've been searching for his marriage in sao pedro - no hits 

do i search ignacia's baptism in sao pedro?

thanks

carmen






  
  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?

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hi margaret 

i started looking for his children

going to take a while

thanks

carmen





   
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 3:10 PM
 
 Hi
 Carmen,
 The
 "expostos" records from S. Sebastiao, are sterile
 and yield nothing other than a number, with many name
 Antonios born in 1855 it's almost an impossibility.
 However I came across one child named Antonio, who was
 Perfilhado (legalized birth rights) in 1881.  The parents
 are Manuel Carvalho de Sousa and Francisca Ludovina da
 Conceicao.  
 Exposto
 # 724 - baptism/birth 
recordhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1851-1856/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1851-1856_item1/P162.html
 
 1881
 
Perfilhacoeshttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-P-1881-1881/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-P-1881-1881_item1/P6.html
 
 This may
 not necessarily be the right person.  You will have to
 collect all of this couple's children and pay special
 attention to when the surname Carvalho comes up.  If after
 1881 or close to it you may have found your
 GGP.
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at
 1:59 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 Carmen.  
 It was
 helpful, in discerning a timeline, thank you.
  
 From this I can
 tell you the record you are looking at for Antonio given to
 Umbelina is not your G. Grandfather.  Based on the marriage
 record he was 21 years old, which brings the birth year
 around 1855.  The Sao Pedro Antonio was born in
 1839,
 I was also
 hoping to find in the marriage record the name of the care
 giver or the exposto number but unfortunately the priest did
 not list it.
 I would
 suggest for you to have a look at Matriz, Sao Sebastiao
 index to see if there are any Antonio's born circa
 1855.
 Hope you find
 him.  
 You should
 collect all of the children born to this couple, along with
 Goparents names.  You might find a connection to the people
 that raised Antonio if it ends up being S.
 Sebastiao.
 
 Margaret
 
 On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at
 1:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 here is the link for my great-grandmother's baptism 
 #116
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov
 .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879/SMG-VF-
 SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879_item1/ P285.html
 
 
 
 here is her parents marriage #14
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov
 .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-
 SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/ P40.html
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov
 .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-
 SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/ P41.html
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT
 RIGHT?
 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 11:32 AM
 
 
 
  Carmen, please post both
 
  links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism
 of
 
  your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look.
 
  Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Oct
 
  24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via
 Azores
 
  Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.go
 v.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD -SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-
 SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P12 7.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was
 a
 
  foundling
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  when he got married he was listed as a native of São
 
  Sebastião
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as
 a
 
  native of  São Pedro - same on death record
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date
 for
 
  him
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  my grandmother listed her name in her school book she
 
  brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i often wondered where the carvalho part came from
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  on the first page of the document - four lines up from
 the
 
  bottom - is that word carvalho?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what is the word before 58 above
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is this list about who brought up these foundlings?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  wish more info was given
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?

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hi margaret

here is the link for my great-grandmother's baptism  #116

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879_item1/P285.html

here is her parents marriage #14

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P40.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P41.html

thank you

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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
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 Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 11:32 AM
 
 Carmen, please post both
 links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of
 your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look.
 Thanks
 
 
 On Mon, Oct
 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html
 
 
 
 my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a
 foundling
 
 
 
 when he got married he was listed as a native of São
 Sebastião
 
 
 
 when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a
 native of  São Pedro - same on death record
 
 
 
 it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for
 him
 
 
 
 my grandmother listed her name in her school book she
 brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz
 
 
 
 i often wondered where the carvalho part came from
 
 
 
 on the first page of the document - four lines up from the
 bottom - is that word carvalho?
 
 
 
 what is the word before 58 above
 
 
 
 is this list about who brought up these foundlings?
 
 
 
 wish more info was given
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
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thank you jeremy

i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares

maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html

thereza
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html

antonio
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
  
then no births after that at matriz

i figure jacinto was born around 1799

the family probably moved

is there another igreja nearby besides matriz

here's the link again for his and his parents marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa

thank you

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On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy  
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
 
 marriage of jacinto
 soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina? 
 
 YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
 I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
 
 his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
 Francis - she is deceased? 
 her parents are
 José Monis and Maria da Estrella 
 
 YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
 DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
 ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
 
 here
 is jacinta's baptism in 1804? 
 
 YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
 
 could this be António da
 Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
 
 
 YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
 IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
 100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
 7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
 
 
 
 Hope this is
 of some help!
 
 Jeremy
 
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

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marriage of jacinto soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?
his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina Francis - she is deceased?
her parents are José Monis and Maria da Estrella

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

here is jacinta's baptism in 1804?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_item1/P109.html

could this be António da Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the 
year?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

i am trying to find jacinto's baptism

thank you

carmen








   
    

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html

left side

manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel

his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira - Nordestinho

his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste

his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro, Nordestinho, Nordeste

marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Penha de França, Água 
Retorta

her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra + Antónia Marguisa - Faial 
da Terra

her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra

her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Graça, Faial 
da Terra

i'm taking a wild guess on this translation

please correct my mistakes

what is the word after maria de pimentel and before filha  

i could not find a baptism for maria

where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths?

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

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hi margaret

i didn't see that at all

i tried to find his mother's baptism record but couldn't find anything under 
rezendes or medeiros together

carmen





   
    


On Mon, 10/17/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, October 17, 2016, 10:06 PM
 
 You're
 welcome.
 Not quite. He is of
 unknown (incognito) father as per his birth record which you
 already found and posted the link in one of your earlier
 emails on this subject.
 It reads: Jose de Rezende (filho
 ilegitimo de Francisca de Medeiros Rezende).
  
 Translating to:
 Jose de Rezendes illegitimate son of Francisca de Medeiros
 Rezende (Resendes). 
 best,
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at
 6:09 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 thank you
 margaret
 
 
 
 i can make out that his father is Francisco Medeiros de
 Resendes
 
 
 
 i don't see his mother listed - wonder where i could
 find her name
 
 
 
 her father is António Boteilho
 
 
 
 her mother is Victoria de Medeiros - i have seen her listed
 as Quitéria de Medeiros on another document
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 On Sun, 10/16/16, Margaret
 Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, October 16, 2016, 9:48 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
  the marriages for Agua Retorta prior to 1833 can be found
 in
 
  Faial da Terra.  
 
  Here's your Jose Leandro.  His
 
  name is Jose de Rezendes. Marriage date is
 16-March-1820,
 
  right side.
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P113.html
 
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 
  6:39 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  If you could post some marriages or send me what
 
  you are looking for, I may be able to help you.
 
  As it stands, I really don't who
 
  you are looking for, and possible there is an error
 
  somewhere. 
 
  JR
 
 
 
  On
 
  Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 5:38:56 PM UTC-4, carmen
 furtado
 
  wrote:thank
 
  you margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i just checked births for 1795
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  the closest i could find is this one for
 
  may ? 1798
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.gov
 
  .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
 AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-
 
  PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_ item1/P33.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  father francisco de  rezendes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  mother can't make out her name
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  no mention of liandro
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  anything that can help me know if this is
 
  him
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  here is his wife's death
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.gov
 
  .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
 AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879/SMG-
 
  PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879_ item1/P84.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  june 23 1877
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  age 76
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  father antonio botelho
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  mother victoria de medeiros
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i figure they got married about 1820 but
 
  the books start at 1835 - bummer
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thanks again
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Sun,
 
  10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margare...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 
  WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "azores" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Sunday,
 
  October 16, 2016, 2:43 PM
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   Obit date
 
 
 
   Dec 31 1839Jose Liandro (Leandro modern
 
 
 
   spelling)residing in Lomba das Fagundas
 
 
 
   44 years oldDied without a
 
 
 
   will
 
 
 
   No
 
 
 
   parents' names given
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 
 
 
   1:48 PM, 'carmen furtado'
 
  via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   i've
 
 
 
   been searching for days and hope this is
 
  the one i need
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG
 
  - PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/
 
 
 
   SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-
 
  1860_item1/P38.html
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   jose liando
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   december 30 1839
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   husband of francisca de medeiros
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   what is his age?
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   are his parents listed?
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   many thanks
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you margaret

i can make out that his father is Francisco Medeiros de Resendes

i don't see his mother listed - wonder where i could find her name

her father is António Boteilho

her mother is Victoria de Medeiros - i have seen her listed as Quitéria de 
Medeiros on another document

carmen




   
    


On Sun, 10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, October 16, 2016, 9:48 PM
 
 Carmen,
 the marriages for Agua Retorta prior to 1833 can be found in
 Faial da Terra.  
 Here's your Jose Leandro.  His
 name is Jose de Rezendes. Marriage date is 16-March-1820,
 right side.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P113.html
 
 On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 6:39 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 If you could post some marriages or send me what
 you are looking for, I may be able to help you.
 As it stands, I really don't who
 you are looking for, and possible there is an error
 somewhere. 
 JR
 
 On
 Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 5:38:56 PM UTC-4, carmen furtado
 wrote:thank
 you margaret
 
 
 
 i just checked births for 1795
 
 
 
 the closest i could find is this one for
 may ? 1798
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov
 .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV- AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-
 PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_ item1/P33.html
 
 
 
 father francisco de  rezendes
 
 
 
 mother can't make out her name
 
 
 
 no mention of liandro
 
 
 
 anything that can help me know if this is
 him
 
 
 
 here is his wife's death
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov
 .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV- AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879/SMG-
 PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879_ item1/P84.html
 
 
 
 june 23 1877
 
 
 
 age 76
 
 
 
 father antonio botelho
 
 
 
 mother victoria de medeiros
 
 
 
 i figure they got married about 1820 but
 the books start at 1835 - bummer
 
 
 
 thanks again
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
    
 
     
 
 
 
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 10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margare...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Sunday,
 October 16, 2016, 2:43 PM
 
  
 
  Obit date
 
  Dec 31 1839Jose Liandro (Leandro modern
 
  spelling)residing in Lomba das Fagundas
 
  44 years oldDied without a
 
  will
 
  No
 
  parents' names given
 
  
 
  
 
  On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 
  1:48 PM, 'carmen furtado'
 via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  i've
 
  been searching for days and hope this is
 the one i need
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG
 - PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/
 
  SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-
 1860_item1/P38.html
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  jose liando
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  december 30 1839
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  husband of francisca de medeiros
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  what is his age?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  are his parents listed?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  many thanks
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  carmen
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  i always spelled liandro with an e
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

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thank you margaret

i just checked births for 1795

the closest i could find is this one for may ? 1798

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_item1/P33.html

father francisco de  rezendes

mother can't make out her name

no mention of liandro

anything that can help me know if this is him

here is his wife's death

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879_item1/P84.html

june 23 1877

age 76

father antonio botelho

mother victoria de medeiros

i figure they got married about 1820 but the books start at 1835 - bummer

thanks again

carmen







  
   
    


On Sun, 10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, October 16, 2016, 2:43 PM
 
 Obit date
 Dec 31 1839Jose Liandro (Leandro modern
 spelling)residing in Lomba das Fagundas
 44 years oldDied without a
 will
 No
 parents' names given
 
 
 On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 1:48 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 i've
 been searching for days and hope this is the one i need
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/
 SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835- 1860_item1/P38.html
 
 
 
 jose liando
 
 
 
 december 30 1839
 
 
 
 husband of francisca de medeiros
 
 
 
 what is his age?
 
 
 
 are his parents listed?
 
 
 
 many thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 i always spelled liandro with an e
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

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i've been searching for days and hope this is the one i need

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860_item1/P38.html

jose liando

december 30 1839

husband of francisca de medeiros

what is his age?

are his parents listed?

many thanks

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1860-1869/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1860-1869_item1/P65.html

jose de resendes

what's that word after his name?

august 4 1867 died

can't make out his age ?

married to roza de medeiros

father francisco de resendes - still living

mother maria de medeiros - still living

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[AZORES-Genealogy] HAVING A PROBLEM WITH DA ROCHA

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have a ancestor whose name is either João Inácio or João Inácio da Rocha

his name appears both ways on different documents and i don't know which one to 
use

was wondering if da Rocha was the place where he was from

another problem is none the documents give his parents names nor any names on 
his wife's documents

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message

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me too  :(



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On Wed, 10/12/16, Maria Lima  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message
 To: "AZORES" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 2:28 PM
 
 Hi friends,
 
 Getting a 500 error message while trying to access the
 records today.  Bummer
 
 Maria Elena 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BIRTH TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P181.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P182.html

#54 maria

april 21, 1887 ??

father - antonio joaquim - what is his occupation? born in sao jose - son of 
unknown parents

mother - carlota de jesus - daughter of jose de andrade and maria da estrella

godparents - antonio jose da costa and maria da gloria

having trouble with the side notes

married marianno jose july 25, 1910

can't make out what the next group is about - 1935 1958 ??

next group - july 5, 1961 obituary #1977 - july 6, 1961

any help will be greatly appreciated

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1801-1831/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1801-1831_item1/P100.html

document on the right side

this what i could figure out - correct me if i am wrong

marriage of José Correia and Maria dos Santos de Sousa Calouro

january 29 1816

grooms parents jose correia and maria rosa

brides parents joam?  de Sousa Calouro and rosa maria

is calouro 2 words

does it give their ages?

thank you

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[AZORES-Genealogy] A QUESTION ??????????????

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my grandmother's grandfather antonio joaquim was born a foundling circa 1854

his marriage says he was a native of sao sebastiao and his death says he was a 
native of san pedro

i've been going through the baptisms of sao sebastiao and find there are 2 
books - one for legitimate births and the other for parents unknown

been looking for names of antonio - is it my imagination but it seems all the 
godparents were the same

did these poor babies get adopted or what happened to them if they didn't?

i don't think i'm going to find him

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

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thank you angela




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On Thu, 10/6/16, Ângela Loura <angelalo...@gmail.com> wrote:

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 Date: Thursday, October 6, 2016, 1:10 PM
 
 2,5
 months
 2016-10-06 18:02 GMT+01:00
 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>:
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905_ item1/P119.html
 
 
 
 I am looking for Manoel dos Santos son of Manoel Jacinto dos
 Santos and Albina da Conceicao
 
 
 
 I don't think this is it - mother's name don't
 match
 
 
 
 what is the age he died?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
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thank you nancy





   
    


On Thu, 10/6/16, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
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 Date: Thursday, October 6, 2016, 1:46 PM
 
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 2 1/2 months
 
 
 
 Nancy Jean
 
 
 From: 'carmen
 furtado' via Azores Genealogy
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 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:02:51 PM
 
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH
 TRANSLATION
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905_item1/P119.html
 
 
 
 I am looking for Manoel dos Santos son of Manoel Jacinto dos
 Santos and Albina da Conceicao
 
 
 
 
 I don't think this is it - mother's name don't
 match
 
 
 
 what is the age he died?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905_item1/P119.html

I am looking for Manoel dos Santos son of Manoel Jacinto dos Santos and Albina 
da Conceicao 

I don't think this is it - mother's name don't match

what is the age he died?

thank you

carmen






   
    

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thanks cheri

i was hoping it would be when he died

back to checking deaths hoping to find his

carmen





    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION
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 Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 11:37 PM
 
 I think it
 just says that a certificate was issued on 12 Mar 1861.
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
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 hi
 everyone
 
 
 
 what does the note in the margin translate to under the name
 manuel?
 
 
 
 is that march 12 of ??
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1856-1858/SMG-
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hi everyone

what does the note in the margin translate to under the name manuel?

is that march 12 of ??

thanks

carmen

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1856-1858/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1856-1858_item1/P11.html





  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE NAMES

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hi cheri

i was for hours searching for this record with a really bad migraine and the 
names of the groom and his parents i couldn't make out

tried reading it now at 400 %

august 18, 1879 marriage date

after no. 42 andre Mnnz - maria augusta

41 years old

widower of maria do cnns

son of paelgneria candide

baptized at sao rogue in the area of rastro do cao

manoel da costa - maria augusta's late husband

her father jose maurecio from pico

her mother jannecia maria 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/P280.html

is it my imagination or are there a lot of nnns?

i need to find andre's baptism - where would i look - sao rogue?

thanks

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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE NAMES
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 5:09 PM
 
 Carmen,
 The
 names are on the 2nd page. This is a really clear record and
 a good one to try to train yourself with. Use this link to
 look for key marriage terms and for the format as well: https://goo.gl/ny1kGM
 
 Yes, August 1879. First
 word is "Aos" for "On the." The next
 word is the date. It starts with a "d." Use your
 word list. I think you can get close.
 
 Give it another try since I told you were
 to look and see if you can now pick out any names and the
 day.
 
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hi everyone

i can't figure out most of the names on #42 - maria augusta

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/P280.html

marriage august ? 1879

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thanks cheri



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On Thu, 9/8/16, Cheri Mello  wrote:

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 Date: Thursday, September 8, 2016, 10:11 AM
 
 Joao Jose
 d'Utra which today is Dutra.
 
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hi everyone

#10 luisa

what is the last name of rita aurelia's husband?

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1860-1874/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1860-1874_item1/P104.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION

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hi sandra

its carmen_furt...@yahoo.com




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On Mon, 9/5/16, Sandra Perez <perezsandra...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION
 To: "Azores Genealogy Google Group" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, September 5, 2016, 7:20 PM
 
 Carmen,
 
 I can't seem to see your email
 address.
 
 On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 1:13
 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 sandra
 
 
 
 yes you mail email me privately
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
    
 
 
 
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 <perezsandra...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy Google Group" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Monday, September 5, 2016, 1:51 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
 
 
  Francisco da Costa e Francisca do
 
  Rosario.  I can give you some info on this family.  May
 I
 
  email you privately?
 
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at
 
  10:38 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 
  <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  hi sandra
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you for the info
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i can go back another generation
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Sun, 9/4/16, Sandra Perez
 
  <perezsandra...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 BAPTISM
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "Azores Genealogy Google Group"
 
  <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 9:10 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   This is from RR:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   11 -   João de Teves,
 
 
 
   marítimo, que casou de 32 anos
 
 
 
   em S. José de ponta Delgada a 15.7.1870 com Maria de
 
  Jesus
 
 
 
   de 20 anos, filha de
 
 
 
   João Ferreira, camponês e Helena Joaquina.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   10 -  Jacinto
 
 
 
   de Teves, que casou de 27 anos em S. José de Ponta
 
 
 
   Delgada a 1.3.1835 com Ana
 
 
 
   de Jesus de 21 anos filha de Manuel Tavares e Jacinta
 
 
 
   Rosa.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Tiveram:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   11 -   António de
 
 
 
   Teve, que casou de 20 anos em S.
 
 
 
   José de ponta Delgada a 22.4.1860 com Maria Cândida,
 de
 
  26
 
 
 
   anos, filha de
 
 
 
   Francisco Tavares e Maria Cândida.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   11 -   Manuel de
 
 
 
   Teves, marítimo que casou de 31 anos
 
 
 
   em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 8.5.1870 com sua
 parenta
 
  em
 
 
 
   3.º e 4.º grau Sabina
 
 
 
   Augusta, filha de Francisco Cabral e Francisca
 
 
 
   Cândida.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   11 -   Francisco de
 
 
 
   Teves, marítimo que casou de 34
 
 
 
   anos em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 25.4.1876 com
 
  Luísa
 
 
 
   Cândida (Cap.º 401.º §
 
 
 
   3.º, N.º 7).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   11 -   Jacinta
 
 
 
   de Jesus, casou de 24 anos em S. José de Ponta
 
 
 
   Delgada a
 
 
 
   5.5.1879 com Francisco
 
 
 
   Jacinto, marítimo de 30 anos filho de António
 
 
 
   Jacinto e Ana Augusta.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   10 -  João de Teves,
 
 
 
   pescador, casou aos 31 anos em
 
 
 
   S. José de Ponta Delgada a 18.3.1834 com Maria de
 
  Jesus
 
 
 
   filha de João Botelho e
 
 
 
   Maria Rosa.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 3:40
 
 
 
   PM, 'carmen furtado'
 
  via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   hi
 
 
 
   everyone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thanks for the
 
  correction
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i found a birth date for francesco on a family tree
 on
 
 
 
   ancestry - october 18, 1854
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   here's his marriage to jacinta de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
 
 
   PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG- PD-
 
  SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/
 
 
 
   P273.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   may 5 1879
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   his parents - António Jacintho & Anna Augusta
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   her parents - Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesús
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   if i'm reading it right he is 30 and she is 24
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   that would make his birth date around 1840
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   back searching
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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   On Sun, 9/4/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 
  BAPTISM
 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi sandra

yes you mail email me privately

thank you

carmen 
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION
 To: "Azores Genealogy Google Group" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, September 5, 2016, 1:51 PM
 
 Carmen,
 
 Francisco da Costa e Francisca do
 Rosario.  I can give you some info on this family.  May I
 email you privately?
 
 On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at
 10:38 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 hi sandra
 
 
 
 thank you for the info
 
 
 
 i can go back another generation
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 <perezsandra...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy Google Group"
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 9:10 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
 
 
  This is from RR:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  11 -   João de Teves,
 
  marítimo, que casou de 32 anos
 
  em S. José de ponta Delgada a 15.7.1870 com Maria de
 Jesus
 
  de 20 anos, filha de
 
  João Ferreira, camponês e Helena Joaquina.
 
 
 
  10 -  Jacinto
 
  de Teves, que casou de 27 anos em S. José de Ponta
 
  Delgada a 1.3.1835 com Ana
 
  de Jesus de 21 anos filha de Manuel Tavares e Jacinta
 
  Rosa.
 
 
 
  Tiveram:
 
 
 
  11 -   António de
 
  Teve, que casou de 20 anos em S.
 
  José de ponta Delgada a 22.4.1860 com Maria Cândida, de
 26
 
  anos, filha de
 
  Francisco Tavares e Maria Cândida.
 
 
 
  11 -   Manuel de
 
  Teves, marítimo que casou de 31 anos
 
  em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 8.5.1870 com sua parenta
 em
 
  3.º e 4.º grau Sabina
 
  Augusta, filha de Francisco Cabral e Francisca
 
  Cândida.
 
 
 
  11 -   Francisco de
 
  Teves, marítimo que casou de 34
 
  anos em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 25.4.1876 com
 Luísa
 
  Cândida (Cap.º 401.º §
 
  3.º, N.º 7).
 
 
 
  11 -   Jacinta
 
  de Jesus, casou de 24 anos em S. José de Ponta
 
  Delgada a
 
  5.5.1879 com Francisco
 
  Jacinto, marítimo de 30 anos filho de António
 
  Jacinto e Ana Augusta.
 
 
 
  10 -  João de Teves,
 
  pescador, casou aos 31 anos em
 
  S. José de Ponta Delgada a 18.3.1834 com Maria de
 Jesus
 
  filha de João Botelho e
 
  Maria Rosa.
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 3:40
 
  PM, 'carmen furtado'
 via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  hi
 
  everyone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thanks for the
 correction
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i found a birth date for francesco on a family tree on
 
  ancestry - october 18, 1854
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  here's his marriage to jacinta de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 
  PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-
 SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/
 
  P273.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  may 5 1879
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  his parents - António Jacintho & Anna Augusta
 
 
 
  her parents - Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesús
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  if i'm reading it right he is 30 and she is 24
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  that would make his birth date around 1840
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  back searching
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Sun, 9/4/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 BAPTISM
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 2:11 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen, it
 
 
 
   is a girl, you got it
 
 
 
   FranciscA
 
 
 
   Baptism date: 07-Oct-1855
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Parents:  Antonio
 
 
 
   Jacintho (Jacinto) and Ana deJesus.Maternal
 
 
 
   GP: the name is Francisco and Francisca (with an
 
 
 
   "I")
 
 
 
   Margaret
 
 
 
   On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 1:23
 
 
 
   PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   hi 
 
 
 
   everyone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   need help with this one
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
 
 
   PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG- PD-
 
  SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/
 
 
 
   P153.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   francesco
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   birth - october 1 1855
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   baptism - october 8 1855
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   parents - António Jacintho & Anna de Jesús
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   grandparents - Jacintho Antonio & Maria Jacintha
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   grandparents - Francesco da Costa & Francesca de
 
 
 
   Jesús
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi sandra

thank you for the info

i can go back another generation

carmen




  
   
    


On Sun, 9/4/16, Sandra Perez <perezsandra...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION
 To: "Azores Genealogy Google Group" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 9:10 PM
 
 Carmen,
 
 This is from RR:
 
 
 
 11 -   João de Teves,
 marítimo, que casou de 32 anos
 em S. José de ponta Delgada a 15.7.1870 com Maria de Jesus
 de 20 anos, filha de
 João Ferreira, camponês e Helena Joaquina.
 
 10 -  Jacinto
 de Teves, que casou de 27 anos em S. José de Ponta
 Delgada a 1.3.1835 com Ana
 de Jesus de 21 anos filha de Manuel Tavares e Jacinta
 Rosa.
 
 Tiveram:
 
 11 -   António de
 Teve, que casou de 20 anos em S.
 José de ponta Delgada a 22.4.1860 com Maria Cândida, de 26
 anos, filha de
 Francisco Tavares e Maria Cândida.
 
 11 -   Manuel de
 Teves, marítimo que casou de 31 anos
 em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 8.5.1870 com sua parenta em
 3.º e 4.º grau Sabina
 Augusta, filha de Francisco Cabral e Francisca
 Cândida.
 
 11 -   Francisco de
 Teves, marítimo que casou de 34
 anos em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 25.4.1876 com Luísa
 Cândida (Cap.º 401.º §
 3.º, N.º 7).
 
 11 -   Jacinta
 de Jesus, casou de 24 anos em S. José de Ponta
 Delgada a
 5.5.1879 com Francisco
 Jacinto, marítimo de 30 anos filho de António
 Jacinto e Ana Augusta.
 
 10 -  João de Teves,
 pescador, casou aos 31 anos em
 S. José de Ponta Delgada a 18.3.1834 com Maria de Jesus
 filha de João Botelho e
 Maria Rosa.
 
  
 
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 3:40
 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 everyone
 
 
 
 thanks for the correction
 
 
 
 i found a birth date for francesco on a family tree on
 ancestry - october 18, 1854
 
 
 
 here's his marriage to jacinta de jesus
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD- SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/
 P273.html
 
 
 
 may 5 1879
 
 
 
 his parents - António Jacintho & Anna Augusta
 
 her parents - Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesús
 
 
 
 if i'm reading it right he is 30 and she is 24
 
 
 
 that would make his birth date around 1840
 
 
 
 back searching
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Sun, 9/4/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 2:11 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen, it
 
  is a girl, you got it
 
  FranciscA
 
  Baptism date: 07-Oct-1855
 
 
 
  Parents:  Antonio
 
  Jacintho (Jacinto) and Ana deJesus.Maternal
 
  GP: the name is Francisco and Francisca (with an
 
  "I")
 
  Margaret
 
  On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 1:23
 
  PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  hi 
 
  everyone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  need help with this one
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 
  PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG-PD-
 SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/
 
  P153.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francesco
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  birth - october 1 1855
 
 
 
  baptism - october 8 1855
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  parents - António Jacintho & Anna de Jesús
 
 
 
  grandparents - Jacintho Antonio & Maria Jacintha
 
 
 
  grandparents - Francesco da Costa & Francesca de
 
  Jesús
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi everyone

i just found francisco's baptism

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849_item1/P121.html

do i have the dates correct?

birth october 18 1848
baptism - october 29 1848

what is francisco da costa's wife's name?

thanks  carmen




   
    


On Sun, 9/4/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> 
wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 6:40 PM
 
 hi everyone
 
 thanks for the correction
 
 i found a birth date for francesco on a family tree on
 ancestry - october 18, 1854
 
 here's his marriage to jacinta de jesus
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/P273.html
 
 may 5 1879
 
 his parents - António Jacintho & Anna Augusta
 her parents - Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesús
 
 if i'm reading it right he is 30 and she is 24
 
 that would make his birth date around 1840
 
 back searching
 
 thank you
 
 Carmen M. Furtado 
 
   
    
     
 
 
 On Sun, 9/4/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM
 TRANSLATION
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
  Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 2:11 PM
  
  Carmen, it
  is a girl, you got it
  FranciscA
  Baptism date: 07-Oct-1855
  
  Parents:  Antonio
  Jacintho (Jacinto) and Ana deJesus.Maternal
  GP: the name is Francisco and Francisca (with an
  "I")
  Margaret
  On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 1:23
  PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
  wrote:
  hi 
  everyone
  
  
  
  need help with this one
  
  
  
  http://culturacores.azores.
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
  PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG-PD- SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/
  P153.html
  
  
  
  francesco
  
  
  
  birth - october 1 1855
  
  baptism - october 8 1855
  
  
  
  parents - António Jacintho & Anna de Jesús
  
  grandparents - Jacintho Antonio & Maria Jacintha
  
  grandparents - Francesco da Costa & Francesca de
  Jesús
  
  
  
  thank you
  
  
  
  Carmen M. Furtado
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
     
  
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION

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hi everyone

thanks for the correction

i found a birth date for francesco on a family tree on ancestry - october 18, 
1854

here's his marriage to jacinta de jesus

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/P273.html

may 5 1879

his parents - António Jacintho & Anna Augusta
her parents - Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesús

if i'm reading it right he is 30 and she is 24

that would make his birth date around 1840

back searching

thank you

Carmen M. Furtado 

  
   
    


On Sun, 9/4/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 2:11 PM
 
 Carmen, it
 is a girl, you got it
 FranciscA
 Baptism date: 07-Oct-1855
 
 Parents:  Antonio
 Jacintho (Jacinto) and Ana deJesus.Maternal
 GP: the name is Francisco and Francisca (with an
 "I")
 Margaret
 On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 1:23
 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi 
 everyone
 
 
 
 need help with this one
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG-PD- SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/
 P153.html
 
 
 
 francesco
 
 
 
 birth - october 1 1855
 
 baptism - october 8 1855
 
 
 
 parents - António Jacintho & Anna de Jesús
 
 grandparents - Jacintho Antonio & Maria Jacintha
 
 grandparents - Francesco da Costa & Francesca de
 Jesús
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
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hi  everyone

need help with this one

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/P153.html

francesco

birth - october 1 1855
baptism - october 8 1855

parents - António Jacintho & Anna de Jesús
grandparents - Jacintho Antonio & Maria Jacintha
grandparents - Francesco da Costa & Francesca de Jesús

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BIRTH TRANSLATION

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hi joseph

thank you very much

i had 1854 - my finger typed 1884 by mistake

off to find more documents

Carmen

  
   
    


On Tue, 8/30/16, Joseph Mendonca <jemendonca...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BIRTH TRANSLATION
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 11:20 AM
 
 Hi
 Carmen,
 Birth is Oct
 23, 1854Baptism is Nov 1, 1854
 The period of records that your
 searching is Sao Jose 1852-1855. Not to say that a record
 couldn't have been mixed in because they
 do.
 Names look good.
 Maternal grandfather is Manuel Tavares.
 Joseph
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at
 10:55 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 everyone
 
 
 
 i need help with this one
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG-PD- SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/
 P111.html
 
 
 
 jacintha
 
 
 
 are these dates correct?
 
 
 
 birth   October 03      1884
 
 baptism November 01     1884
 
 
 
 Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesús        parents
 
 Manuel de Teves & Maria do Nascimento   paternal
 grandparents
 
 Manuel ? & Jacinta Rosa maternal grandparents
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
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hi everyone

i need help with this one

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1852-1855_item1/P111.html

jacintha

are these dates correct?

birth   October 03  1884
baptism November 01 1884

Jacinto de Teves & Anna de Jesúsparents
Manuel de Teves & Maria do Nascimento   paternal grandparents
Manuel ? & Jacinta Rosa maternal grandparents

thanks

carmen






   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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hi margaret

thank you - thank you - thank you

that is francesca !

thanks for the passport too

i'm going to have to check more birth dates to see if francesca's mother had 
any more children before or after she got married

will let you know how i make out

thanks

Carmen M. Furtado 

  
   
    


On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
 
 Hi
 Carmen,
 I didn't find it
 eighter.  One thing I noticed is that the couple having the
 children you listed the mother's name is Teresa.  Your
 listing Francisca's mom as Mary Nunes.  That seems to
 indicate a different couple or wife.  
 Found her listed in Horta, passport
 # 309, which confirms her birth year to be 1889, link
 below.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P224.html
 
 I also
 think this is your Francisca, since it matches the birthdate
 05-Mar-1889 and surname "Nunes" and mother
 "Maria". Take a look at the name...Ana, crazy,
 right? But possible if she went by Ana Francisca and used
 Francisca instead.  
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890_item1/P116.html
 
 
 
 Margaret
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
 5:40 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 i got her parents names from her marriage and death records
 and her birth date and birthplace from her citizenship
 papers from massachusetts records
 
 
 
 then i went to the azores web page pico-magdelena-bandeiros
 looking for her baptism record
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 4 Gray Avenue
 
 Kingston, Massachusetts 02364-2213 USA
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 4:57 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen, 
 
  In order
 
  to try to help I would like to ask re Francisca Nunes
 da
 
  Silva, how did you get the parents names?  It seems
 
  you're not quite certain...
 
  Are you tracing back from her
 
  marriage documentation or children's birth records
 in
 
  the US? You seem to have her approximate birth timeline
 of
 
  1889.
 
  Regarding the
 
  two links with Maria's birth records.  Those are
 the
 
  same record.  One book is a duplicate...confusing,
 even
 
  some of the dates don't jive with the headings of
 the
 
  book..
 
  Margaret
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
 
  2:24 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  thank you
 
  everybody
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Manuel Nunes da Silveira    age 37
 
 
 
  married july 28 1882
 
 
 
  Theresa de Jesus    age 23
 
 
 
  his parents
 
 
 
  Francisco Nunes da Silveira and
 
  Theresa Francisca
 
 
 
  her parents
 
 
 
  Jose Pereira da Silveira and
 
  Maria Victoria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francesca nunes da silva arrived in america 1906 from
 
  pico - born circa 1889
 
 
 
  she married 1907 - parents manuel da silva and maria nunes
 -
 
  born circa 1889
 
 
 
  visited pico 1933 - mother mary nunes silva - born
 circa
 
  1889
 
 
 
  naturalized 1943 - birthdate march 5 1889 - birthplace
 
  bandeiras
 
 
 
  died 1943 - parents manuel da silvia and maria nunes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i couldn't find a baptismal record for francesca -
 i
 
  checked every single page on two separate listings
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i found these children for manuel and theresa
 
 
 
  manuel born 1885
 
 
 
  maria born 1888
 
 
 
  victoria born 1891
 
 
 
  jose born 1892
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  maria's baptism - february 1888
 
 
 
  http://www.culturacores.
 
  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
 digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1874-1895_item1/P79.html
 
 
 
  http://www.culturacores.
 
  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
 digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1873-1890_item1/P107.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  as you can see the birthdates don't match up
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  do you think manuel nunes da silva and theresa francisca
 are
 
  francisca's parents?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  if not, what names should i search for?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  ------------------ --
 
 
 
  On Sun, 8/21/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
  Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: Azores@goog

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

i got her parents names from her marriage and death records and her birth date 
and birthplace from her citizenship papers from massachusetts records

then i went to the azores web page pico-magdelena-bandeiros looking for her 
baptism record

thanks

carmen




Carmen M. Furtado 
4 Gray Avenue 
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On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 4:57 PM
 
 Carmen, 
 In order
 to try to help I would like to ask re Francisca Nunes da
 Silva, how did you get the parents names?  It seems
 you're not quite certain...
 Are you tracing back from her
 marriage documentation or children's birth records in
 the US? You seem to have her approximate birth timeline of
 1889.
 Regarding the
 two links with Maria's birth records.  Those are the
 same record.  One book is a duplicate...confusing, even
 some of the dates don't jive with the headings of the
 book..
 Margaret
 
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
 2:24 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 thank you
 everybody
 
 
 
 Manuel Nunes da Silveira    age 37
 
 married july 28 1882
 
 Theresa de Jesus    age 23
 
 his parents
 
 Francisco Nunes da Silveira and
 Theresa Francisca
 
 her parents
 
 Jose Pereira da Silveira and
 Maria Victoria
 
 
 
 francesca nunes da silva arrived in america 1906 from
 pico - born circa 1889
 
 she married 1907 - parents manuel da silva and maria nunes -
 born circa 1889
 
 visited pico 1933 - mother mary nunes silva - born circa
 1889
 
 naturalized 1943 - birthdate march 5 1889 - birthplace
 bandeiras
 
 died 1943 - parents manuel da silvia and maria nunes
 
 
 
 i couldn't find a baptismal record for francesca - i
 checked every single page on two separate listings
 
 
 
 i found these children for manuel and theresa
 
 manuel born 1885
 
 maria born 1888
 
 victoria born 1891
 
 jose born 1892
 
 
 
 maria's baptism - february 1888
 
 http://www.culturacores.
 azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 1874-1895_item1/P79.html
 
 http://www.culturacores.
 azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 1873-1890_item1/P107.html
 
 
 
 as you can see the birthdates don't match up
 
 
 
 do you think manuel nunes da silva and theresa francisca are
 francisca's parents?
 
 
 
 if not, what names should i search for?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Sun, 8/21/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016, 2:22 PM
 
 
 
  http://www.culturacores.
 azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
 1875-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
 1875-1890_item1/P34.html
 
 
 
  hi everyone
 
 
 
  i need help with the marriage for manuel nunes da silva
 and
 
  theresa de jesus?
 
 
 
  july 8 don't know the year
 
 
 
  can't make out parents names
 
 
 
  maria victoria ?
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
   
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
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['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you everybody

Manuel Nunes da Silveira    age 37
married july 28 1882
Theresa de Jesus    age 23
his parents
Francisco Nunes da Silveira and Theresa Francisca
her parents
Jose Pereira da Silveira and Maria Victoria

francesca nunes da silva arrived in america 1906 from pico - born circa 1889
she married 1907 - parents manuel da silva and maria nunes - born circa 1889
visited pico 1933 - mother mary nunes silva - born circa 1889
naturalized 1943 - birthdate march 5 1889 - birthplace bandeiras
died 1943 - parents manuel da silvia and maria nunes

i couldn't find a baptismal record for francesca - i checked every single page 
on two separate listings

i found these children for manuel and theresa
manuel born 1885
maria born 1888
victoria born 1891
jose born 1892

maria's baptism - february 1888
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1874-1895_item1/P79.html
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890_item1/P107.html

as you can see the birthdates don't match up

do you think manuel nunes da silva and theresa francisca are francisca's 
parents?

if not, what names should i search for?

thank you

Carmen M. Furtado 

  
   
    


On Sun, 8/21/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016, 2:22 PM
 
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-1875-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-1875-1890_item1/P34.html
 
 hi everyone
 
 i need help with the marriage for manuel nunes da silva and
 theresa de jesus?
 
 july 8 don't know the year
 
 can't make out parents names
 
 maria victoria ?
 
 thank you
 
 Carmen M. Furtado 
 
   
    
     
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

margaret - both lines - thanks




Carmen M. Furtado 

  
   
    


On Tue, 8/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2016, 11:31 PM
 
 Carmen,
 which line are you persuing? Francisco Jacinto or
 Jacinta's? 
 Let me know
 and I will email you what I have.
 On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:11
 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 i am interested in knowing more
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Mon, 8/8/16, Margaret Vicente
 <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 9:18 PM
 
 
 
  Hi
 
  Carmen,
 
  Francisco Jacinto
 
  and Jacinta de Jesus make part of my extended
 
  family.
 
  To confirm
 
  Rosemarie's note about the Godparents; they are a
 
  couple.
 
  Also Francisco
 
  Jacinto's Grandparents origins are from Candelaria,
 
  island of Pico. 
 
  PM
 
  me if you're interested in knowing more.
 
  Best,
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:06
 
  PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you ever so much rosemarie
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
 --
 
 
 
  On Mon, 8/8/16, Rosemarie
 
  Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
 
 
   Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 2:24 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen, you did a very
 
 
 
   good job!  Birth date is the 8th day of
 
 
 
   the current month and year
 
 
 
   Francisco Jacinto, fisherman
 
 
 
    Jacinta de Jesus parentsnative of this
 
  Church
 
 
 
   of Sao Jose living Santa Clara this
 freguesia.Paternal
 
  grands:
 
 
 
   Antonio Jacinto & Anna AugustaMaternal grands:
 
 
 
   Jacinto de Teves  Anna
 
  de Jesus Godparents: Francico
 
 
 
   Janurio da Cunha, fisherman & Maria de Jesus,
 casados
 
  (
 
 
 
   married but to each other, I don't know) I would
 
 
 
   probably assume to each other in this
 
 
 
   case. 
 
 
 
   Rosemarie
 
 
 
   rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao
 
 
 
   Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa,
 
  Faial and Pico,
 
 
 
   Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia,
 
 
 
   Sicily
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at
 
 
 
   10:56 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy
 
 
 
   <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   hi
 
 
 
   cheri
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   here's the link
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
 
 
   PD-SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884/SMG- PD-
 
  SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884_item1/
 
 
 
   P203.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   for francisco #164
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   here's what i could figure out
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   july 12, 1882 = baptism
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   is birth date listed?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   francisco jacinto = father
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   jacinta de jesus = mother
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   santa clara? don't know what this is
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   jacinto something augusta? = paternal grandparents?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   jacinto de teves and anna do jesus = mateenal
 
 
 
   grandparents?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   francisco janeiro of ? = godparent?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   maria de jesus = godparent?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   - - --
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Mon, 8/8/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 
 
 
   TRANSLATION
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 12:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Carmen,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    You did not state which baptism.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Provide the link from
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    the CCA. Unless you are a computer wizard and know
 
  how
 
 
 
   to
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    make the image work on all computers (PCs, Macs,
 
  Linux)
 
 
 
   and
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    for a variety of software that everyone my have
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    installed.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

i am interested in knowing more




Carmen M. Furtado 

  
   
    


On Mon, 8/8/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 9:18 PM
 
 Hi
 Carmen,
 Francisco Jacinto
 and Jacinta de Jesus make part of my extended
 family.
 To confirm
 Rosemarie's note about the Godparents; they are a
 couple.
 Also Francisco
 Jacinto's Grandparents origins are from Candelaria,
 island of Pico. 
 PM
 me if you're interested in knowing more.
 Best,
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:06
 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 thank you ever so much rosemarie
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Mon, 8/8/16, Rosemarie
 Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 2:24 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen, you did a very
 
  good job!  Birth date is the 8th day of
 
  the current month and year
 
  Francisco Jacinto, fisherman
 
   Jacinta de Jesus parentsnative of this
 Church
 
  of Sao Jose living Santa Clara this freguesia.Paternal
 grands:
 
  Antonio Jacinto & Anna AugustaMaternal grands:
 
  Jacinto de Teves  Anna
 de Jesus Godparents: Francico
 
  Janurio da Cunha, fisherman & Maria de Jesus, casados
 (
 
  married but to each other, I don't know) I would
 
  probably assume to each other in this
 
  case. 
 
  Rosemarie
 
  rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao
 
  Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa,
 Faial and Pico,
 
  Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia,
 
  Sicily
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at
 
  10:56 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 
  <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  hi
 
  cheri
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  here's the link
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 
  PD-SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884/SMG-PD-
 SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884_item1/
 
  P203.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  for francisco #164
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  here's what i could figure out
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  july 12, 1882 = baptism
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is birth date listed?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francisco jacinto = father
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  jacinta de jesus = mother
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  santa clara? don't know what this is
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  jacinto something augusta? = paternal grandparents?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  jacinto de teves and anna do jesus = mateenal
 
  grandparents?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francisco janeiro of ? = godparent?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  maria de jesus = godparent?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -- --
 
 
 
  On Mon, 8/8/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 12:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   You did not state which baptism.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Provide the link from
 
 
 
   the CCA. Unless you are a computer wizard and know
 how
 
  to
 
 
 
   make the image work on all computers (PCs, Macs,
 Linux)
 
  and
 
 
 
   for a variety of software that everyone my have
 
 
 
   installed.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   State what
 
 
 
   you can read from the baptism. Most people can pick
 out
 
  the
 
 
 
   names (or part of the names). Then people can help
 you
 
  with
 
 
 
   the rest.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Cheri Mello
 
 
 
   Listowner, Azores-Gen
 
 
 
   Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 
 
 
   Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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thank you ever so much rosemarie



Carmen M. Furtado 

   
    


On Mon, 8/8/16, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 2:24 PM
 
 Carmen, you did a very
 good job!  Birth date is the 8th day of
 the current month and year
 Francisco Jacinto, fisherman
  Jacinta de Jesus parentsnative of this Church
 of Sao Jose living Santa Clara this freguesia.Paternal grands:
 Antonio Jacinto & Anna AugustaMaternal grands:
 Jacinto de Teves  Anna de Jesus Godparents: Francico
 Janurio da Cunha, fisherman & Maria de Jesus, casados (
 married but to each other, I don't know) I would
 probably assume to each other in this
 case. 
 Rosemarie
 rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao
 Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico,
 Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia,
 Sicily
 
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at
 10:56 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 cheri
 
 
 
 here's the link
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884/SMG-PD- SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884_item1/
 P203.html
 
 
 
 for francisco #164
 
 
 
 here's what i could figure out
 
 
 
 july 12, 1882 = baptism
 
 
 
 is birth date listed?
 
 
 
 francisco jacinto = father
 
 
 
 jacinta de jesus = mother
 
 
 
 santa clara? don't know what this is
 
 
 
 jacinto something augusta? = paternal grandparents?
 
 
 
 jacinto de teves and anna do jesus = mateenal
 grandparents?
 
 
 
 francisco janeiro of ? = godparent?
 
 
 
 maria de jesus = godparent?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Mon, 8/8/16, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 12:48 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
 
 
  You did not state which baptism.
 
 
 
  Provide the link from
 
  the CCA. Unless you are a computer wizard and know how
 to
 
  make the image work on all computers (PCs, Macs, Linux)
 and
 
  for a variety of software that everyone my have
 
  installed.
 
 
 
  State what
 
  you can read from the baptism. Most people can pick out
 the
 
  names (or part of the names). Then people can help you
 with
 
  the rest.
 
 
 
  Cheri Mello
 
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
 
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 
  Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATION

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hi cheri

here's the link

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1880-1884_item1/P203.html

for francisco #164

here's what i could figure out

july 12, 1882 = baptism

is birth date listed?

francisco jacinto = father

jacinta de jesus = mother

santa clara? don't know what this is

jacinto something augusta? = paternal grandparents?

jacinto de teves and anna do jesus = mateenal grandparents?

francisco janeiro of ? = godparent?

maria de jesus = godparent?

thank you


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 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 12:48 PM
 
 Carmen,
 
 You did not state which baptism. 
 
 Provide the link from
 the CCA. Unless you are a computer wizard and know how to
 make the image work on all computers (PCs, Macs, Linux) and
 for a variety of software that everyone my have
 installed.
 
 State what
 you can read from the baptism. Most people can pick out the
 names (or part of the names). Then people can help you with
 the rest.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES SEARCH WEBPAGE

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thank you rosemarie and cherie





  
   
    


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 Go to Tombo.pt and
 look to the left hand side of the page and scroll down to
 "Acores" the next screen brings up the islands,
 click on yours, next page brings up the concelhos, click on
 yours, the next screen brings up the village. Once your
 village is loaded it will have the list of baptisms,
 marriages and deaths with the years available. 
 
 Rosemarie
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 Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico,
 Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia,
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 it's been awhile since i looked up births, marriages and
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 where do i find the webpage?
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES SEARCH WEBPAGE

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hi

it's been awhile since i looked up births, marriages and deaths in the azores

where do i find the webpage?

thanks

carmen





   
   

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[AZORES-Genealogy] WOMEN'S MARRIED NAMES

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hi

i noticed that women in italy do not take their husband's surname

do women in the azores take their husband's surname

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Archdiose of Boston

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i just checked their website - doesn't look like any info is online to search

carmen

   
    


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 Was wondering if
 anyone has looked at original records there? Their website
 says marriage records only list the people married the date
 and two witnesses. Is this true? I find it hard to believe
 considering all the other catholic marriages I have seen
 from other places and states list the names of parents of
 groom and bride. Please let me know Thanks in advance to
 those who reply I appreciate it.
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

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thank you pam

i had a hard time saving the document to my computer

i was on the page but another page kept repeatingly getting save

carmen


   
    


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 31 Mar
 1905 birth and  24 Apr 1905 for baptism. you had the wrong
 page for your link
 
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 hi i can't make out some
 words on this one 
http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg6BAP2id=1img=3size=1
  faustino son of jacinto
 furtado march 31 or 21, 1905
 birthapril 24, 1905
 baptism is it March 21 or
 31? thanks
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hi
 
i can't make out some words on this one
 
http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg6BAP2id=1img=3size=1
 
faustino son of jacinto furtado
 
march 31 or 21, 1905 birth
april 24, 1905 baptism
 
is it March 21 or 31?
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] need help translating a birt record

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http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911_item1/P36.html

#4 Antonio Thomas

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help translating a birt record

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 hi cheri,
 
the dates and the names of the people
 
thanks
 
carmen



 
    
 


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Carmen,

Exactly what are you having a hard time reading?  The dates?  The grandparents? 
 Can you elaborate more?




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http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911_item1/P36.html
 

#4 Antonio Thomas

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help translating a birth record

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Yes, Cheri, this the correct document.

thank you

carmen

   
 
    
 


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This is in general about blanket requests for a translations. (And I'm NOT 
saying this is you).

I've noticed that people can somehow find their ancestor yet not read a 
single word of the document. After having someone spend 10 or 15 or however 
many minutes either extracting the genealogy information or doing a full 
translation, I see responses that say, Oh, that one is not mine.  Mine was 
supposed to be the son of X  Y.  

Look at the middle of line 9.  Nestor Thomaz Furtado
Line 11: Maria Trindade de Freitas

Is that the right couple?  If not, no need to go any further.




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 hi cheri,

the dates and the names of the people

thanks

carmen



 
    

 
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Carmen,

Exactly what are you having a hard time reading?  The dates?  The 
grandparents?  Can you elaborate more?




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http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911_item1/P36.html
 

#4 Antonio Thomas

thank you

carmen
 



 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel on-line records

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do you know what page book 2 starts?

thank you

carmen



 
    
 


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Yes the index does in book 2 does 1885-1910



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 Baptismos, Casamentos e Óbitos (1850-1899)
 
does this index have baptisms for the years 1892 to 1894? 
 
thank you
 
carmen

   
 
    

 
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel on-line records
  


Oops, caught a typo: Ribeirinha rather than Ribeirinho, sorry.


On Friday, May 9, 2014 10:47:59 AM UTC-4, Patricia Straube wrote:
As a “newbie” to this list, I have been acquainting
myself with many of the past postings. In March, Joao Ventura posted a source
for the records of Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel. I visited the website and found
that most of the original records were early 20thcentury.  However, I did find 
a great source there for
the mid to late 19thcentury in the “Livros de Indices”. From family
records, we know that my husband’s grandmother, Aldina de Jesus Raposo, was 
baptized
in Nossa Senhora da Estrela in 1883. I was able to find her in the index with
her dates of birth and baptism given in NUMBERS, not words. Be careful, however,
since these are according to the “European” system, day-month- year, 17-9-883. 
 
Arquivo Digital
http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/ yii/arquivodigital/index.php? 
r=site/pageview=arg# 
Arquivo da Igreja Matriz da Ribeira Grande
Livros de Índices
Baptismos Livro 1 (1860-1884) | Baptismos Livro 2
(1885-1910) | Casamentos (1850-1910)  |
Óbitos | Baptismos, Casamentos e Óbitos (1850-1899)
 
This is my experience so far in using these records:
 
Baptimsmos Livro 1 (1860-1884)
Beginning in image 3, first name of child, dates of birth
and baptism, father, mother, paternal grandparents, maternal grandparents. 
Indexed
by first name of child, then by first name of father, then by “last” name of
father.  If either of the parents were
natives of another freguesia or parish, it was listed.
 
For example, here is how the fathers for children named “Manuel”are
indexed:
Jose Raposo
  “    “  n.
Povoacao
Jose Raposo 
  “    “
  “    “ Abelho  n. Rabo de Peixe
  “    “  “ 
Fortunately, I knew the name of the mother and
grandparents from the record of my husband’s grandmother, Aldina or Adelina
(indexed under both names.) The 4thlisted record was her brother,
Manuel, since their mother was Rosa de Jesus (n. Ribeirinho).  I also was able 
to find the record of her
other known brother, Tomaz, plus three other hitherto unknown siblings, Jose,
Maria and Marianno.
 
Casamentos (1850-1910) 
Groom, bride, witnesses and date
The first records are of the early 20thcentury. You have to skip ahead in the 
images to find the earlier ones.  These names are alphabetized by groom’s 
first
name and then “last” name. For example:
 
Jose Raposo   n.
da Conceicao
Jose Raposo   n.
da Conceicao
Jose Raposo Abelho   n.
Rabo de Peixe  
Jose Raposo de Couto   n.
da Conceicao
Jose Raposo de Medeiros
Jose Raposo Pacheco n.
Maia
Jose Raposo Pereira   n.
Nordestinho
 
Probably because Rosa de Jesus was a native of
Ribeirinho, I didn’t find their marriage. I haven’t delved into the Obitos or
combined indexes yet.
 
Hope this helps others and would appreciate hearing other
useful tips for these records.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP LOCATING A DOCUMENT

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hi everyone
 
i can't seem to find this one
 
http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/minis-tree/v_md1847d1.jpg 
 
i checked all the manuels in 1867 here
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1860-1869_item1/index.html
 
am i looking in the wrong place?
 
thanks
 
carmen

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BIRTH RECORD

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what does it say under the name jacinto?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1825-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1825-1832_item1/P274.html

thank you

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