[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family size survey

2019-09-25 Thread David Perry
Some disagreement, even among descendants about exactly how many - for instance, one or two stillborn. The descendants claim as many as 24. My research finds 19 for sure. These children are my half 1st cousins, once removed. That side of the family and my side never got along - too bad

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Jacinta maternal grandmother's name

2019-03-21 Thread David Perry
These folks, Andre and Anna are my grandparents. Their son, Jose is my ancestor. Next in line, another Jose followed by yet another Jose and finally, my grandmother Francesca. David On Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 4:55:45 PM UTC-7, leonor@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi all! Thanks to Cheri, I

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Vital family from Lagoa, Sao Miguel to Wialua Hawall in 1883.

2018-05-07 Thread David Perry
I can provide some information on the Vital name in Lagoa. Many Vital folks were at one time do Rego Baldaia way back in the 16th and 17th centuries. Most of them became simply do Rego in the 1700s but there soon became so many in Lagoa (mostly Rosario parish) that many added a second name

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for our ancestors who migrated from Azore Islands to Hawaii

2017-02-13 Thread David Perry
the earlier records. I suspect he took the title to enhance his standing. For some reason he made a sudden departure out of town taking his family with him. Later birth records for more children have him working in a vineyard with no mention of Barao. David Perry On Sunday, February 12, 20

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
ied?My grandmother was born on Sao Jorge and came to the US. She married in California, her 2 children were born there as was I a granddaughter. On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:03 PM, David Perry <djperr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Phil, my son used my citizenship paper trail and my confirmation of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry <djperr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 w

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
<mari...@jmtmlt.com> wrote: So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the language to get dual citizenship?That is my limiting factor.  Marilyn Thompson On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry <djperr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I too had a stumbling blo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses. 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-09 Thread David Perry
I did it and how easy depends on a few things. If you have a parent or grandparent (I don't think it extends beyond grandparents but I may be wrong) born in Portugal (including Azores, etc.), the Portuguese government already views you as a citizen whether you know it or not. All you need do

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

2016-01-23 Thread David Perry
I have Frogoso folks way back in Lagoa (Rosario). My 8th greatgrandfather was Manoel Fragoso born 26 Dec 1666. The children of one of his daughters used another name so the Fragoso name disappeared from my ancestry around 1700. David On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:10:03 AM UTC-8, Linda

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Community: Citizenship granted to grandchildren of Portuguese expats – Portugal

2015-08-18 Thread David Perry
I got Portuguese citizenship through the San Francisco consulate - my father was born in the Azores. After I received my citizenship, my son did the same thing in New York My having done it first made it easier for him. Actually, it was all pretty easy for both of us. The only glitch that

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Suggestion for subject lines

2015-05-15 Thread David Perry
The purpose of asking for translation help is to assist the person asking for the translation - not to provide assistance to the translator. If I were going to help someone translate, it ought not make any difference to me if the record is part of my research. David On Thursday, May 14,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joseph F Rose Flora Vargas from the Faial, Azores

2015-04-24 Thread David Perry
Are you aware that the name Rose is probably an Americanized da Rosa or da Roza. I have some distant Rose relatives who were da Rosa in the Azores. This might help in your search. David On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 8:16:38 AM UTC-7, Pat Rose wrote: From marriage records in

[AZORES-Genealogy] name changes in america

2015-02-10 Thread David Perry
We all rue the name changes in the Azores but the tradition carried on in this country as well. We're all familiar with the more common changes such as Pereira to Perry. However one of my lines went from Medeiros to Medas to Meetis all in the span of fifty years or so. Another changed from

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How many Maria's......

2015-01-03 Thread David Perry
My grandmother, Francisca, had three Maria sisters. Not unusual except the order Maria, Maria, Francisca, Maria of the four girls matches the pattern exactly for the previous generation Maria, Maria, Francisca, Maria. The first two Marias of my grandmother's generation each married a Manoel

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread David Perry
I've known a few Portuguese in California who first went from the Azores to Hawaii to work in the sugarcane fields and then came to California. David On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:43:03 PM UTC-7, Diane Cox wrote: I've enjoyed the thread about Hawaii, Massachusetts or Brazil. Does anyone

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Portuguese citizenship

2014-07-07 Thread David Perry
I just received my citizenship through my local consulate and there was no language requirement. I'm guessing anyone who wants to become a citizen with no familial connection has a language requirement but those of us who become citizens as a result of a parent born in Portugal have no

[AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone researching in Fairhaven, MA?

2014-05-16 Thread David Perry
Hi, I need the assistance of anyone who might be in or near Fairhaven, MA who could find an obituary or direct me to someone - a generous librarian for instance - who could do the same. My grandmother's sister's entire line has been lost to the family for about ninety years and the only

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching in Fairhaven, MA?

2014-05-16 Thread David Perry
with his grandfather (my great grandfather in 1920, about eight years after his parents passed away. Thanks again, David On Friday, May 16, 2014 6:02:46 AM UTC-7, David Perry wrote: Hi, I need the assistance of anyone who might be in or near Fairhaven, MA who could find an obituary or direct

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faial da Terra ancestors

2014-02-14 Thread David Perry
These folks are my direct ancestors. I have all their children, at least all I could find. They're on Ancestry.com if you have access. I can also provide them through private email or through this group. Let me know what's best. David On Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:02:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Putting our research on Ancestry

2013-12-19 Thread David Perry
I had all my research on Ancestry including dozens of photos and stories. Of course much was corrupted by others so I removed all the personal information - the stories and photos - and just left the bare bones names and dates. My feeling is that there should be at least one correct listing

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help tracking down Immigration and Baptismal Record for John Perry - Sao Miguel

2013-12-13 Thread David Perry
What a coincidence though unfortunately of no help to you. My father's name was John Perry, my name is David and a family friend who helped my grandfather purchase a farm in MA was named Camara. Good luck tracking down your John Perry. Mine lived in the SF Bay Area most of his life as do I.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Citizenship

2013-12-05 Thread David Perry
FYI - Portugal considers all descendants of folks born in Portugal to be citizens of Portugal. All one needs is an unbroken paper trail back to your ancestor who was born there and you can become a dual citizen of Portugal and the US. My father was born in Sao Miguel and after gathering the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship

2013-12-05 Thread David Perry
or that of my children should they choose to apply. I'm pretty sure my grandchildren couldn't apply directly based solely on their great grandfather's birth in the Azores. Sorry about any confusion. David Perry On Thursday, December 5, 2013 11:38:03 AM UTC-8, David Perry wrote: FYI - Portugal

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread David Perry
at least partially explain the Portuguese language pronumciation as spoken in Sao Miguel. Herb On Friday, July 12, 2013 4:10:06 PM UTC-4, David Perry wrote: I'm starting to learn Portuguese and everything I see and hear doesn't sound at all like what I remember as a child while listening

[AZORES-Genealogy] Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-12 Thread David Perry
I'm starting to learn Portuguese and everything I see and hear doesn't sound at all like what I remember as a child while listening to my born in Sao Miguel father talking to his relatives and neighbors, all of whom spoke only Portuguese. For instance, I specifically remember very well two

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] San Francisco, California Online records

2013-06-11 Thread David Perry
How do I find these newspapers on Ancestry? I'm a member of Ancestry.com and live in Hayward yet I've always had to go to the Cal State library and pour through the microfilm collection. David P. On Friday, September 2, 2011 4:15:13 PM UTC-7, E Sharp wrote: Carol, Hayward area newspapers

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-31 Thread David Perry
, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *David Perry *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:42 AM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-30 Thread David Perry
I assume these folks had to pay an indulgence (is that the correct word?) to the local priest. Does anyone know if the amount paid was more for a grandfather/granddaughter marriage than for a 1st cousin/1st cousin marriage? Did the amount paid depend on the whim of the local priest or were

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some Needed Translation Help

2013-05-10 Thread David Perry
out on the record marries Thomas Rebello on 7 Jun 1648. I assume she somehow wants to identify with or honor her grandmother. David On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:01:30 AM UTC-7, David Perry wrote: For fifteen years I've been trying to get my Rego Balaya lines back to the original Rego Baldayas

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some Needed Translation Help

2013-05-09 Thread David Perry
access to peter out around 1600 so the pickin's are slim. I'll look again. David Perry On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:01:30 AM UTC-7, David Perry wrote: For fifteen years I've been trying to get my Rego Balaya lines back to the original Rego Baldayas of the 1500s with no success. My earliest

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some Needed Translation Help

2013-05-08 Thread David Perry
again, David On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:01:30 AM UTC-7, David Perry wrote: For fifteen years I've been trying to get my Rego Balaya lines back to the original Rego Baldayas of the 1500s with no success. My earliest record is a marriage of Belchoir Baldaya to Maria Franca from 1623

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Records From 1700's

2013-05-07 Thread David Perry
from all the other records. Each parent is listed separately along with his/her parents (the grandparents of Marianna). I've not seen any other records with grandparents prior to 1800 or so. David Perry On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:32:24 AM UTC-7, Doug Holmes wrote: Hi Judy, I have never

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread David Perry
My grandfather is a Medeiros from Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel. There are many Medeiros folks there and I can't recall the source but I read many years ago that the original Medeiros immigrants to the Azores first settled at the eastern end of Sao Miguel. Good luck, David Perry On Tuesday

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anglican/Americanized names

2013-04-12 Thread David Perry
Every male member of my father's family for at least a few generations used Jacintho as a middle name. Those who came to America changed it to Jessie. David On Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:35:39 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: My cousin, and member of this group Eric Gomes has copies of death

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help Getting Farther back on Primary Paternal line

2013-04-07 Thread David Perry
I have a Manoel do Rego Baldaya m. Izabel de Oliveira on 3 Sep 1707 in Fanais da Luz but can go no further back. Also a ton of Rego Baldaya's from Rosario, Lagoa. Can anyone get me further back with the Fanais da Luz Baldayas, maybe even connect with the Lagoa bunch? It would make my mother

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Public Trees

2013-04-01 Thread David Perry
I have the same frustration and I think the reason folks don't respond is that they are amateurs who see the ads on TV, jump at the introductory offer, find a few common names, swipe them to their tree and then lose interest. When they don't pay to stay on Ancestry, they're long gone though

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A town called Etras?

2013-03-11 Thread David Perry
the town of birth for my maternal grandfather. I meant to say Vila Franca do Campo, just down the road from Agua d'Alto. David On Saturday, March 9, 2013 2:46:31 PM UTC-8, David Perry wrote: I have an obituary identifying a residence for a relative as Etras, Portugal. This relative

[AZORES-Genealogy] A town called Etras?

2013-03-09 Thread David Perry
I have an obituary identifying a residence for a relative as Etras, Portugal. This relative was born around 1915 in Sao Miguel, probably Agua d' Alto though he could have been born in Faial da Terra. So, where did he go? To Etras in the Azores or Etras in Portugal? Is there even an Etras

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mourning period

2013-03-09 Thread David Perry
Most men in my ancestry remarried rather soon after the death of their spouses. The women in the 1600s and 1700s seemed to re-marry though not right away. There seems to have been some kind of religious rebirth in the 1800's and well into the first half of the 1900's what with all the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Very Interesting Article - Jews in the Azores

2013-01-02 Thread David Perry
Nancy, my father was a Pereira from Sao Miguel, Azores and he and his brothers always used to joke that they were Jewish though I've found no evidence of that going back to the 1700's. Interesting stuff. David On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 2:51:57 PM UTC-8, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Hi

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help please

2012-11-23 Thread David Perry
to provide favors as a young girl to her father's boss so her father could keep his job. On Thursday, November 22, 2012 1:50:44 PM UTC-8, David Perry wrote: Thanks so much for the information. I wonder how she ended up a few years later with my greatgrandparents, Manoel de Medeiros Quarta