Re: [blfs-dev] blfs bootscripts (-dev)

2014-04-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Btw, what was it decided you to 'get more involved' on the sysd side - e.g. demand for teaching courses on the stuff? No, it was a combination of things. There were comments in the lists as well as irc that people wanted systemd. My judgement is that there are about an

Re: [blfs-dev] blfs bootscripts (-dev)

2014-04-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 17:08:10 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] blfs bootscripts (-dev) akhiezer wrote: Btw, what was it decided you to 'get more involved' on the sysd side - e.g

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole thing working). But your use of sysctl

Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 21/04/2014 19:28, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 21/04/2014 10:36, Pierre Labastie a écrit : Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 where the numbers are console_loglevel

Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 21/04/2014 10:36, Pierre Labastie a écrit : Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz These tarballs are really large. Have the binaries

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do not want to try to build

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: There is also a deeper difference - jhalfs was originally a tool for builders. As an editor, my preference is to look at a new package version on a completed system [ normally, just a DESTDIR ], see what options I want to use [ e.g. omit static libs even in LFS, unless

Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz These tarballs are really large. Have the binaries in them been stripped? Missing nmap-6.46.tar.bz2 Book md5sum e8c337456a692bada3ee53e7f5b87bac DL md5sum

Re: [blfs-dev] BLFS and systemd

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
TheOldFellow wrote: I trust BLFS will still be usable for non-systemd (i.e. sane) systems, Yes, that's the intent. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: Comment (by ken@…): At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS bootscripts, and I'm fairly confident that the systemv-on-systemd build will work when I test it. But I'm

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: My point was that _many_ people who build LFS-svn will either copy and paste, or will already have their own scripts. As you said (paraphrasing), this is a major change - those of us with our own scripts

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Really, the only thing that's different through the end of Chapter 6 is adding new packages. Skipping systemd and adding eudev is all that is needed to do a straight traditional build

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: However there is a method to their madness and LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. Don't get me started

Re: [blfs-dev] html5

2014-04-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:38:53PM +0200, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:40:34 -0500 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently using seamonkey-2.10.1 (vs current 2.25) and I've found my html5 support to be a little lacking. I've found the site

Re: [blfs-dev] html5

2014-04-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks Ken. I was given a URL to check out for teaching. Please see if you can use www.TestOut.com/newlabsim I don't think there's a password for the beta test but I didn't get that far. If it seems to work for you, then I'll go build FF for this platform. It opened

Re: [blfs-dev] html5

2014-04-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 19.4.2014 1:18, Armin K. wrote: On 19.4.2014 1:05, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks Ken. I was given a URL to check out for teaching. Please see if you can use www.TestOut.com/newlabsim I don't think there's a password for the beta test but I didn't get

Re: [blfs-dev] udev-extra

2014-04-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
thomas wrote: Hi, is there a hint file or any other kind of doc on how to create the udev-lfs-.tar.bz2 file? The last one is of version 208, systemd is 212. Instead of waiting, I'd like to produce udev-lfs-212.tar.bz2 so the instructions for Thunar will work again. There is a hint

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing icu4c-53_1-src.tgz Book md5sum b73baa6fbdfef197608d1f69300919b9 DL md5sum aa1560c6e82b7bd38155bfa3ee8b4665 -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 13-04-2014 12:07, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing icu4c-53_1-src.tgz Book md5sum b73baa6fbdfef197608d1f69300919b9 DL md5sum aa1560c6e82b7bd38155bfa3ee8b4665 I don't know what is happening. Just downloaded again, to see

Re: [blfs-dev] Add version information to the java binary page?

2014-03-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 29-03-2014 08:13, Pierre Labastie escreveu: Hi, A couple of months ago, Fernando added a page for the java binary installation, which is nice, since it separates the java binary setting from the OpenJDK installation. Pierre, only recently, I started updating

Re: [blfs-dev] Where is the version? [was: ... r12912 ...]

2014-03-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 29-03-2014 14:05, pie...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org escreveu: Author: pierre Date: Sat Mar 29 10:05:09 2014 New Revision: 12912 Log: Make the Java Binary Page versioned and closer to the layout of other pages I do not know what I did wrong, but it is

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing glib-2.40.0.tar.xz Book md5sum 26d1d08e478fc48c181ca8be44f5b69f Download05fb7cb17eacbc718e90366a1eae60d9 -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the

Re: [blfs-dev] My BLFS checks

2014-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 18-02-2014 15:47, Armin K. escreveu: On 02/18/2014 06:29 PM, Armin K. wrote: All packages were run with testsuites (yeah, I can't believe it either), so I had to build a bit more packages than I actually needed. I still can't get glib testsuite to finish ...

[blfs-dev] Fwd: patch for wpa_supplicant by using wifi link 5100 in blfs 7.5

2014-03-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Sent directly to me. Original Message Subject: patch for wpa_supplicant by using wifi link 5100 in blfs 7.5 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:41:50 +0100 From: Evgenij Pascual koe...@gmail.com To: bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org Hello, wpa_supplicant only worked for me with following patch

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r12879 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/lib xsoft/graphweb

2014-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
k...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: ken Date: Wed Mar 19 13:02:11 2014 New Revision: 12879 Log: mozconfigs for firefox and xulrunner : move the pulse option above 'It is recommended not to touch anything below this line'. Have I ever mentioned that I really dislike the phrase It is

Re: [blfs-dev] about pax

2014-03-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: The discussion has shifted to http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/4736 Basically, pax is not really needed, except for passing the LSB tests. OTOH, it is a nice utility, which can read and write both cpio and tar formats. It lacks the xz compressed format,

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: valgrind 3.9.0 0 * Thanks for adding that to the book!!! :-) Yes, that part of the currency needs a little work. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-03-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing mutt-1.5.23.tar.gz The http url seems to be invalid. We probably should just remove it. I usually check the http url and if it's OK, skip the ftp. However the currency check usually starts with the ftp url unless I found out manually that it needed

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 03/15/2014 10:50 AM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 14-03-2014 12:53, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Three new problems, sorry. Think dbus.freedesktop.org reorganized the repositories. Chapter 9 dbus-glib0.102 0 * book is good Chapter 12

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 03/13/2014 12:09 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Chapter 9 libsigc++2.3.1 2.2.11 * book is good http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libsigc++/2.3/libsigc++-2.3.1.tar.xz Fixed. Chapter 13 cmake2.8.12.23.0.0-rc1 * (think we do not want

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Olaf wrote: On 2014-03-12 04:30, Bruce Dubbs wrote: If you notice something wrong, please let me know, but please also tell me what the correct URL is that I can use to determine the most recent released version of the package. I recently stumbled over nano, BLFS has 2.3.2 which is actually

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 14-03-2014 04:28, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Olaf wrote: On 2014-03-12 04:30, Bruce Dubbs wrote: If you notice something wrong, please let me know, but please also tell me what the correct URL is that I can use to determine the most recent released version

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: According to Armin, yesterday, cairomm 1.10.0 1.11.2 * book is good, must be even. OK, I made cairo even only also even though there are no odd tarballs for that. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] LFS and Git

2014-03-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I've been working trying to understand Git a little better and trying to evaluate whether it is appropriate for LFS to migrate. What I've done is to copy the alfs repository to anduin and work with that copy. git clone git://git.linuxfromscratch.org/alfs.git After

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Thanks Fernando. Comments below. The issue is how to decide on what is current for scripting purposes. Some cases use even for development and odd for stable (or maybe the opposite). -- Bruce Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Chapter 9 libsigc++ 2.3.1 2.2.11 * book is good

Re: [blfs-dev] about pax

2014-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: I have found 2 sources for pax: - the mirbsd package, debianised by Debian (the orig I put in the ticket). It does not build as is, because the debian rules (a makefile actually) are shipped separately, and those rules use heavily the debian packaging system. So we

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Add kde-workspace and phonon to this list. Both show same version as KDE but neither of these uses their versioning scheme. Looking at the code phonon should be right but kde-workspace is not. I'll fix both. -- Bruce --

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 03/11/2014 06:29 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Today I've been working on the package currency scripts at http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/blfs-currency.html Most of the scripts are working, but I still need to address a few issues that have changed since I first wrote

Re: [blfs-dev] where to put time and pax

2014-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, Adding time (as a binary rather than buitin command) and pax is needed according to the FHS. I cannot figure out where to put them: in general utilities, or system utilities? I would suggest time going in General Utilities and pax with cpio in System Utilities.

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing libreoffice-translations-4.2.1.1.tar.xz Please check md5sum. Book: 4873b18cd8a535814777c8630fe2db9f Download: cf7873e5e1ffc8b63d42bad5b2f37a2b -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

[blfs-dev] mariadb

2014-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Why do we have mariadb-10.0.8 in the book? The web site, https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/, clearly says the latest stable is version 5.5.36. See also https://downloads.mariadb.org. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] mariadb

2014-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 11-03-2014 17:30, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Why do we have mariadb-10.0.8 in the book? The web site, https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/, clearly says the latest stable is version 5.5.36. See also https://downloads.mariadb.org. Our memories... You have

Re: [blfs-dev] Package Currency

2014-03-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Today I've been working on the package currency scripts at http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/blfs-currency.html Most of the scripts are working, but I still need to address a few issues that have changed since I first wrote them last Fall. In any case the info

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-03-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing mercurial-2.9.1.tar.gz Check md5sum. Book: de902a5300beb16c778bc88949832e94 Download: 56b3732f0f558f3cc986c9323ca8d17f Fernando, can you take a look? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

[blfs-dev] LFS and Git

2014-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been working trying to understand Git a little better and trying to evaluate whether it is appropriate for LFS to migrate. What I've done is to copy the alfs repository to anduin and work with that copy. Note to Pierre: nothing has been changed on the lfs server. I had to reorganize the

Re: [blfs-dev] CA Certificates

2014-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: On 03/06/14 11:15, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Henrik /KaarPoSoft wrote: Dear all, On http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/cacerts.html you indicate to download CA Certificates from: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/security/nss/lib/ckfw/builtins/certdata.txt

Re: [blfs-dev] [lfs-dev] LFS and Git

2014-03-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
William Harrington wrote: On Mar 9, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I've been working trying to understand Git a little better and trying to evaluate whether it is appropriate for LFS to migrate. Here is an article which presents why a person should move to GIT. http

[blfs-dev] Package stats

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
There is a question in the tickets about statistics. This is how I do it. I have a script for each package that measures time and size. I build packages in /tmp, but really could be anywhere. First measure the free disk space: before=`df -k /tmp | grep / | sed -e s/ \{2,\}/ /g | cut -d' '

Re: [blfs-dev] CA Certificates

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Henrik /KaarPoSoft wrote: Dear all, On http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/cacerts.html you indicate to download CA Certificates from: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/security/nss/lib/ckfw/builtins/certdata.txt?raw=1 However, on the mxr frontpage

Re: [blfs-dev] [was: ... r12830 ...]

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 06-03-2014 13:22, bdu...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org escreveu: Author: bdubbs Date: Thu Mar 6 08:22:54 2014 New Revision: 12830 Log: try again -!-- downloads-root must not have an entity becasue it is needed for scripts +!-- downloads - root must not have

Re: [blfs-dev] Package stats

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: I find du more accurate, although more tome consuming, Yes, that's why I went ot df. so have to to mark some instants to avoid it from interfering in the timings. On example is that df will include the log size, perhaps you think it is relevant. For me the log

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Font package causes script stop and exit shell

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Arthur Radley wrote: I'm building BLFS from a recent development version. The package font-bh-ttf-1.0.3.tar.bz2 in Xorg Fonts causes the installation script to exit with an error... rm: cannot remove 'font-bh-ttf-1.0.3/@baseconfigdir@/conf.avail/42-luxi-mono.conf': Permission denied rm:

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Font package causes script stop and exit shell

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Arthur Radley wrote: Bruce Dubbs bruce.dubbs at gmail.com writes: Some packages modify or create packages in the local directory when doing a make install so when you exit sudo, you can't delete those files in the directory. Just go ahead and use sudo to delete. Well, that isn't exactly

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Font package causes script stop and exit shell

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Arthur Radley wrote: Bruce Dubbs bruce.dubbs at gmail.com writes: I don't understand why they didn't get installed. I can see that a several directories may be kept that are not needed, but all the files should still be installed. -- Bruce That happened because the errors caused

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
OK, strigi and pygobject are fixed. There have also been a few typos fixed and other touchups. libexecdir has been addresed. Is there anything else? Are we ready to release? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r12824 - trunk/BOOK/general/sysutils

2014-03-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 03/05/2014 08:57 PM, bdu...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: bdubbs Date: Wed Mar 5 11:57:50 2014 New Revision: 12824 Log: punctuation Modified: trunk/BOOK/general/sysutils/strigi.xml Modified: trunk/BOOK/general/sysutils/strigi.xml

[blfs-dev] BLFS-7.5 is released

2014-03-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.5/ [1] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/7.5/ -- Bruce Dubbs LFS -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:03:15PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: Those who are able to read https://lwn.net/Articles/589291/ (might be subscriber-only for the next 2 weeks, I'm not sure) will see from nix's comment that there is already a second fix version of gnutls (perhaps

Re: [blfs-dev] Qt4 and Qt5 again[Was: Libexec WebKitGTK]

2014-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 04-03-2014 09:22, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu: 2. The only thing very different between Qt4 and Qt5 is QTDIR, QTLINK versus QT5DIR, QT5LINK. I will replace by QT4DIR, QT4LINK. There are problems: 1. Is it right having in the environment QT$DIR instead of

Re: [blfs-dev] ... pygobject patch

2014-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 03-03-2014 11:30, Armin K. escreveu: On 03/03/2014 03:06 PM, thomas kaeding wrote: This might be important for anyone wanting to build pygtk. It's a patch to pygobject. https://bug668522.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=209543 Forwarding to

Re: [blfs-dev] ... pygobject patch

2014-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: which seems exactly the fix needed from pygobject-2.28.6-introspection-1.patch. Unfortunately, I do not feel we can end the discussion before 7.5 is released. My doubts, first, is this new patch required or optional, because the other one is optional? second,

Re: [blfs-dev] strigi-0.7.8 and clucene-2.3.3.4

2014-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 01:11:16AM -0500, Chris Staub wrote: On 02/27/14 00:37, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I have a problem with the book's instructions building strigi. clucene is listed as an optional dependency and I have that installed. The book has cmake

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 02-03-2014 21:42, Ken Moffat escreveu: On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 05:16:44PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We just released LFS-7.5 and we need to look at releasing BLFS-7.5 in the next few days. AFAIK, all the 7.5 tickets are complete and all the packages tagged

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: I see that the following create directories in /usr/libexec, I suppose that we need to document these [ possibly, some are already done, I haven't checked that yet ] : file-roller, gedit, git (creates git-core/), gjs, gnome-system-monitor, gstreamer (both, they

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release : security issues

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, Two points, which I'd like to raise before the release: 1. MIT Kerberos: You may remember that I had some difficulty with tests in MIT Kerberos. I reported upstream and this lead to the following two commits:

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 02:43:17PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: 2. The following explain an optional --libexecdir switch: gnupg2, emacs, librep, geoclue. I don't have a problem with leaving this sort of thing in for a transitional period while people may still be using older

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:27:06PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: I thought from an earlier reply that you considered these to be leftovers from when we had --libexecdir=/usr/lib in the commands for these packages. We may be discussing two different things

Re: [blfs-dev] No man pages at all

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: That's it. $ man man No manual entry for man I have: ls -dl /usr/share/man/ drwxrwxr-x 43 root root 4096 Fev 28 23:38 /usr/share/man/ Have tried as I did when had similar problem in BLFS-7.5: chown -v 2775 /usr/share/man No modification, and reverted. I

[blfs-dev] LFS-7.5 is released

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
about this release to the LFS development team at lfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org. Please note that registration for the lfs-dev mailing list is required to avoid junk email. [0] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.5/ [1] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/7.5/ -- Bruce Dubbs

[blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
We just released LFS-7.5 and we need to look at releasing BLFS-7.5 in the next few days. AFAIK, all the 7.5 tickets are complete and all the packages tagged for 7.5. It is just a matter of doing the release, but I'm sure that there are some tweaks that are necessary. For planning purposes,

Re: [blfs-dev] Policy on locale for building ? (ticket #4745)

2014-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 03:29:08PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: [ snipped ] I have a problem with en_US.UTF-8. I generally do not have any LC_ variable set and even have alias ls='LC_ALL=C ls --color=auto' because I once was running into a problem

Re: [blfs-dev] Policy on locale for building ? (ticket #4745)

2014-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 12:49:12AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 04:05:15PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Do you perhaps have any LESSCHARSET or similar variables set ? Yes. LESS=-MX LESSCHARSET=latin1 I would try without LESSCHARSET. It ought

Re: [blfs-dev] kde and nouveau

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 02/28/2014 06:59 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I've been working to get KDE up to speed for 7.7 and have finally finished the core modules. I did have a problem at first when I was testing. I want to document the issues. My video is NVIDIA Corporation NV37GL [Quadro PCI-E Series

Re: [blfs-dev] Tags

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Will try ekiga transmission wireshark Excellent. I've done: obex-data-server gtk-engines taglib And I'm working on libnice Next up: multimedia/libdriv/sbc.xml:lfs74_checked; multimedia/libdriv/alsa-oss.xml:lfs74_built;

Re: [blfs-dev] qt4 e qt5

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: qt4 You should now be able to use the appropriate Qt version by running source setqt4 or source setqt4 replace by: or source setqt5 qt5 You should now be able to use the appropriate Qt version by running source setqt4 or source setqt4 replace by: or source

Re: [blfs-dev] source setqt4 or source setqt5

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: I don't know if it is just in my system. We have: # Now to clean up unset pathremove pathprepend pathappend at the end of /etc/profile With that, setqt4 and setqt5 do not work. I had to comment the line, and now they work perfectly. The profile page has

Re: [blfs-dev] Tags

2014-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 28-02-2014 17:16, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Will try ekiga transmission wireshark Done. All built and working. I think that it would be a good idea, not sure about how vulnerable it would be, to add to wireshark's page: usermod

[blfs-dev] Tagging

2014-02-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I am working on KDE and it's dependencies. I've updated the following, but not yet comitted: M kde/core/polkit-qt.xml M kde/core/shrdesktopontologies.xml M kde/core/attica.xml M kde/core/akonadi.xml M kde/core/qimageblitz.xml M kde/core/phonon-backend-vlc.xml

Re: [blfs-dev] Tagging

2014-02-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
While I'm working on KDE, these are the outstanding packages that need to be tested and tagged: multimedia/libdriv/alsa-oss.xml:lfs74_built; multimedia/libdriv/alsa-firmware.xml:lfs74_built; multimedia/libdriv/alsa-tools.xml:lfs74_built; general/prog/junit.xml:lfs74_checked;

[blfs-dev] kde and nouveau

2014-02-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been working to get KDE up to speed for 7.7 and have finally finished the core modules. I did have a problem at first when I was testing. I want to document the issues. My video is NVIDIA Corporation NV37GL [Quadro PCI-E Series]. When I configure the kernel, it wants to use the nouveau

Re: [blfs-dev] discussion about sendmail

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Igor Živković wrote: On 2014-02-25 17:43, Bruce Dubbs wrote: That said, I don't have strong opinions about whether it is in the book or not. We may want to review it in a few days as we sort out other areas. I don't want sendmail back in the book as I believe it's rated worse

Re: [blfs-dev] discussion about sendmail

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Igor Živković wrote: On 2014-02-26 17:20, lf...@cruziero.com wrote: Yes, as I suspected: you're bs'ing. That's funny because mostly everything I have ever seen from you (and I don't even know your real name) around here is bullshit, flaming incitement and rudeness. Anyways, I'm dumping you

Re: [blfs-dev] valgrind

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: - like for the recent sendmail stuff, is the following the sort of thing that should really go through '-dev' first: Ref: http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/4724 -- Lots of packages use valgrind. We ought to add it to the book. Wouldn't normally

[blfs-dev] Cyrus SASL

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I had a problem with the instructions for Cyrus SASL. Using them as they are in the book gives me: gcc -shared -fPIC -DPIC .libs/sasldb.o .libs/sasldb_init.o .libs/plugin_common.o -Wl,--whole-archive ../sasldb/.libs/libsasldb.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive -ldb -lresolv -O2 -Wl,-soname

Re: [blfs-dev] Cyrus SASL

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 02/26/2014 09:46 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 02/26/2014 09:34 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I had a problem with the instructions for Cyrus SASL. Using them as they are in the book gives me: gcc -shared -fPIC -DPIC .libs/sasldb.o .libs/sasldb_init.o .libs/plugin_common.o -Wl

[blfs-dev] Akonadi and cmake

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I'm having a problem building Akonadi. When running cmake, I get an error. The build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log gives: File /tmp/akonadi/akonadi-1.11.0/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp/CheckSymbolExists.cxx: /* */ #include QtCore/qglobal.h int main(int argc, char** argv) { (void)argv; #ifndef

Re: [blfs-dev] Akonadi and cmake

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 02/26/2014 11:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'm having a problem building Akonadi. When running cmake, I get an error. The build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log gives: File /tmp/akonadi/akonadi-1.11.0/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp/CheckSymbolExists.cxx: /* */ #include QtCore

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r12792 - in trunk/BOOK: introduction/welcome postlfs/security

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
k...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: ken Date: Wed Feb 26 17:45:11 2014 New Revision: 12792 Log: acl is weird enough to need --libexecdir - thanks to Armin for pointing this out to me. Yes, I ran into that last night. I started to remove it, but it put things in the wrong

Re: [blfs-dev] Akonadi and cmake

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: No, the check is right. It is supposed to fail if the function isn't found. OK. But it seems that it should be: #ifndef xyx #error xyx #endif Instead of what they have. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

[blfs-dev] strigi-0.7.8 and clucene-2.3.3.4

2014-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I have a problem with the book's instructions building strigi. clucene is listed as an optional dependency and I have that installed. The book has cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR=lib \ -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \ .. It gives a linking error

Re: [blfs-dev] discussion about sendmail

2014-02-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, Recently, sendmail has been archived, (see ticket #4723). There has not been a real discussion about that. The reason is that the current building instructions do not lead to a functional package, although Armin and Igor have tried to do so. Furthermore, there are

Re: [blfs-dev] Reverting my work

2014-02-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Rev 12783 has reverted what I had done for guile. I am curious why: I had suppressed instructions for building pdf docs (using texlive!), and simplified instructions to build and install html and txt doc, but had not changed anything else (I had tested that with a

Re: [blfs-dev] Reverting my work

2014-02-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 25/02/2014 21:36, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Rev 12783 has reverted what I had done for guile. I am curious why: I had suppressed instructions for building pdf docs (using texlive!), and simplified instructions to build and install html and txt doc

Re: [blfs-dev] BLFS Systemd Additions

2014-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 22/02/2014 09:59, DJ Lucas a écrit : On 02/21/14 13:20, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: I know what you meant. I have no problems with shipping package specific notes for now. Maintaining seperate BLFS is something I can't do alone and maintaining same

Re: [blfs-dev] BLFS Systemd Additions

2014-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: There are different ways than with playing with xsl (shell subsitutions and such, generating .xml files from .xml.in files using templates) but given that some already say that they wouldn't like systemd and sysv instructions in the same repository, I didn't speak up. As for

Re: [blfs-dev] initd-tools

2014-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Although it is not very active (sorry DJ and Dan, I know you contributed to this), initd-tools is versioned, while the title of the page in BLFS does not mention the version. The current title is LSB Tools for managing bootscripts. I propose to rename it to

Re: [blfs-dev] ed on LSB

2014-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 22/02/2014 13:52, Pierre Labastie a écrit : Hi, ed has just been archived, arguing that it is no more in LSB. However, FYI, it is still mentioned in table 17-1 of Linux Standard Base Core Specification 4.90-20140214, but not on the detailed list in section 17.2.

[blfs-dev] Tagging progress and plan

2014-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I finished tagging the Post LFS Configuration and Extra Software chapters in the book. The next part is General Libraries and Utilities. The remaining packages in that part needing to be tested are below. I will start on those tomorrow. If you want to do some of these, let me know so we

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