Re: Windo$e

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Grimaldi
William T. Goodall wrote: The Linksys WET11 I use to connect the G3 server to the network never crashes - but it doesn't do anything very complicated so it doesn't have any excuses. Reggie Bautista wrote: I bought a Linksys 8-port router and switch about a year and a half ago and

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread A . Freiberg
I would say: Backup ... Backup ... Backup ... Backup ... and keep inventories so you can find out which backup might apply. I would call it an art since it doesn't really seem to be technology yet? Regards Armin Freiberg -- From: Russell Chapman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 23:41, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:13 AM 7/29/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: My HP calculator has never crashed, although there are instructions in the manual for resetting it should that happen :) Neither have any of mine (at least 4 different models I can

RE: Windo$e (and how I deal with it)

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 29 Jul 2003 at 11:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using W95 privately on my box that has the old scanner and printer (driver availability issue), W2K on my data-backup-box that has no screen attached and professionally NT on my ofice laptop and PC. The only thing I run Windows 95 on is

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 03:26 am, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall The Linksys WET11 I use to connect the G3 server to the network never crashes - but it doesn't do anything very complicated so it doesn't have any excuses.

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: Have you thought of switching mice and software to see if the 'good' computer starts crashing? Seriously. It might be a driver problem with the mouse. Actually, I have. It made no difference. Other than that... I'd say you're right. It's definitely not you. :) But my not-so-expert

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
William T. Goodall wrote: The Linksys WET11 I use to connect the G3 server to the network never crashes - but it doesn't do anything very complicated so it doesn't have any excuses. I bought a Linksys 8-port router and switch about a year and a half ago and was never able to get it configured

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Windo$e Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:12:01 -0500 Jon wrote: Have you thought of switching mice and software to see if the 'good' computer starts crashing? Seriously. It might

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 07:27 pm, Reggie Bautista wrote: William T. Goodall wrote: The Linksys WET11 I use to connect the G3 server to the network never crashes - but it doesn't do anything very complicated so it doesn't have any excuses. I bought a Linksys 8-port router and switch about

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: Have you thought of switching mice and software to see if the 'good' computer starts crashing? Seriously. It might be a driver problem with the mouse. I replied: Actually, I have. It made no difference. Jon responded: Well.. have you tried kicking it? It won't help the problem,

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
William T Goodall wrote: Did the t-shirt fit? Actually, yes. They played it safe by using XL (extra large, not sure if they're labelled differently across the pond), so it's guaranteed to fit most, even if it is a little baggy (well, on my wife it's more like a nightshirt, but that's fun too

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:35 AM 7/29/03 +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 23:41, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:13 AM 7/29/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: My HP calculator has never crashed, although there are instructions in the manual for resetting it should that happen :) Neither have any

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-29 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
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Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. I guess this tells more about idiotic behaviour of Windo$e users than about Windo$e itself. Probably those people

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:57 +0100 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 05:32 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:57 +0100 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr.

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 12:32, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. Honestly, I suspect

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 05:32 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:57

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:17:23 +0100 On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 05:32 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:24:24 +0100 On 28 Jul 2003 at 12:32, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:11 PM 7/28/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. And that's the

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 07:22 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T Goodall wrote: But the user shouldn't be able to make the OS crash, however much of an ID10T they are. Then you have to strictly limit what they can do. Not really. I can't stand OS's which nanny

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:05:49 +0100 On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 07:22 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 23:05, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 07:22 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T Goodall wrote: But the user shouldn't be able to make the OS crash, however much of an ID10T they are. Then you have to strictly

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. We have some staff here who get this sort of

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: It seems horrifically high. I suspect that it's a combination of lack of maintenance and ID10T errors. I use tons of programs, usually simultaneously on my Windows machine and don't have problems, but I keep them maintained, too. There are two computers at home, both with Windows

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:24 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: Nothing one can install without an admin password is capable of crashing any serious OS. Heh. Ironic. I guess OS X 10.2.6 is out then. Which does require an admin password to install :) Co-workers clean-installed the latest version of

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:56 pm, Russell Chapman wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:15 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Windo$e On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:24 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: Nothing one can install without an admin password is capable

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: The most unreliable OS I had running until recently was the OS on my Vigor 2600We ADSL modem-router-firewall-wireless-basestation-kitchen-sink gadget which used to lock up every 10 to 14 days, requiring a reboot. I upgraded the firmware a couple of months ago and it

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
Reggie Bautista wrote: One of them crashes maybe once every couple of months. With the other one, I'm lucky if it doesn't crash at least once a day. The only hardware difference between them is that they have different models of mouse. I think this inconsistency is what really pisses people

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reggie Bautista Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Jon wrote: It seems horrifically high. I suspect that it's a combination of lack of maintenance and ID10T errors. I use tons

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:46 am, Jon Gabriel wrote: Jon Merely Amusing Myself Maru If it makes you happy... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:49 am, Russell Chapman wrote: My D-Link version of these used to do that too, but it turned out that the cable ISP (which specifically bans the use of any sort of internet sharing device, and requires an authentication client running on the PC to enforce it)

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:14 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Windo$e On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 01:08 am, Reggie Bautista wrote: Jon wrote: It seems horrifically high. I suspect

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:13 AM 7/29/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: My HP calculator has never crashed, although there are instructions in the manual for resetting it should that happen :) Neither have any of mine (at least 4 different models I can recall, all of which I still have and still use 3 of them

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Jon Gabriel wrote: But the user shouldn't be able to make the OS crash, however much of an ID10T they are. Tell that to the third party software makers, please. Some of it is just badly written for Macs AND PC's. AOL used to freeze my computer pretty darn frequently in OS9. Who's to