Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: WTC Redux Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the strength of your

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: WTC Redux Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Land
Subject: Re: WTC Redux On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/07/2006, at 10:44 PM, Dave Land wrote: So /you're/ Gautam's liberal-democrat-female friend? Since you presumed to answer the questions I wrote to Dan for her, you must want us to think so. Uh-huh. Yes, I'm clearly

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-19 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the strength of your reasoning (as well as recent views of myself in a mirror), I concede the point that I am nowhere /near/ as hot as Sigourney Weaver, who would be significantly hotter regardless of her mode of dress. You may be

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 19, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the strength of your reasoning (as well as recent views of myself in a mirror), I concede the point that I am nowhere /near/ as hot as Sigourney Weaver, who would be

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the strength of your reasoning (as well as recent views of myself in a mirror), I concede the point that I am nowhere /near/ as hot as Sigourney Weaver, who would be significantly hotter regardless of her

RE: WTC Redux

2006-07-18 Thread Horn, John
The question I'd love to see asked is are there really other videos of the crash at the Pentagon? There are so many conspiracy sites that talk about a surveillance video from a gas station across the street. Do they really exist? I don't know if this person would or would not have any

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-18 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/07/2006, at 10:44 PM, Dave Land wrote: So /you're/ Gautam's liberal-democrat-female friend? Since you presumed to answer the questions I wrote to Dan for her, you must want us to think so. Uh-huh. Yes, I'm clearly impersonating

RE: WTC Redux

2006-07-18 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:58 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: WTC Redux On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/07/2006, at 10:44 PM, Dave Land wrote

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-18 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:58 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: WTC Redux On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/07/2006, at 10:44 PM, Dave Land

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-18 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: On Jul 18, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:58 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: WTC Redux On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Charlie

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
Julia Thompson wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: I hypothesize that the damage to the outer ring caused load shifting, with the inner core acting as a fulcrum. On the other parts of the affected floor compressive forces became [the opposite of compressive] forces or torsive forces beyond the

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Excellent. I welcome this opportunity. Apologies for my own intermittent involvement on this. I don't mean to throw argument bombs into the room and then exit - I just don't have the spare cycles to weigh in as often as I would like, yet. Mr Bell, if selective bloviating was enough then

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/07/2006, at 5:03 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Mr Bell, if selective bloviating was enough then this would be resolved already. Your growling impatient diatribe doesn't appear to add anything and I certainly resist bully-boy tactics even if only verbal. Like, um, I think we've

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Robert Seeberger
Gibson Jonathan wrote: Excellent. I welcome this opportunity. Apologies for my own intermittent involvement on this. I don't mean to throw argument bombs into the room and then exit - I just don't have the spare cycles to weigh in as often as I would like, yet. Understandable. Mr Bell,

RE: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibson Jonathan Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 9:04 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: WTC Redux Excellent. I welcome this opportunity. Apologies for my own intermittent involvement

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/07/2006, at 10:51 PM, Dan Minette wrote: Using the same calculations, tower 2, the first to fall, would collapse in 9.5 sec. Both of these numbers are consistent with the times observed. Bingo. Your Math-Fu is strong. Finally, I'm trying to incorporate your questions, Charlie's

RE: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Dan Minette
I'm perfectly happy to discuss my view, or whatever, further, if you think it would help. Although, to be honest, I think your view, Dan, and mine are close enough on all the details we've actually thought about and discussed that I'd be perfectly happy for you to substitute your own for

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/07/2006, at 11:16 PM, Dan Minette wrote: Thank you. What I was thinking of was your view that there was a good question to be asked about the WT7 collapse, but that Dave's wording didn't present it. I was sorta fishing for you to present what you thought was a good question when I

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: Isn't Stockholm a form of PTSD? I don't see why both propositions could not be true. I am sure there are limitations to the applicability of such disorders, so it is a matter of degree coupled with propensity. Some poking around leads me to believe that no, they are

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: I hypothesize that the damage to the outer ring caused load shifting, with the inner core acting as a fulcrum. On the other parts of the affected floor compressive forces became [the opposite of compressive] forces or torsive forces beyond the rating of bolts and

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-15 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 14/07/2006, at 11:31 PM, Dave Land wrote: For me, questions that compare the official report's explanation of the attack and its aftermath with the major common elements of the top couple of conspiracy theories (how is it that WTC 1 2

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-15 Thread Charlie Bell
On 15/07/2006, at 10:44 PM, Dave Land wrote: So /you're/ Gautam's liberal-democrat-female friend? Since you presumed to answer the questions I wrote to Dan for her, you must want us to think so. Uh-huh. Yes, I'm clearly impersonating Gautam's friend. Or maybe I'm pointing out problems

WTC Redux

2006-07-14 Thread Dan Minette
Dear All, I IM'd with Gautam, and he said he'd be willing to ask a couple of questions concerning 9-11 and the conspiracy theories of his friend who worked on the report. But, he won't pepper her with a laundry list of questions, she's rather sick of the various conspiracy theories. As I

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:34 AM Friday 7/14/2006, Dan Minette wrote: Dear All, I IM'd with Gautam, and he said he'd be willing to ask a couple of questions concerning 9-11 and the conspiracy theories of his friend who worked on the report. But, he won't pepper her with a laundry list of questions, she's rather

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-14 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Dear All, I IM'd with Gautam, and he said he'd be willing to ask a couple of questions concerning 9-11 and the conspiracy theories of his friend who worked on the report. But, he won't pepper her with a laundry list of questions, she's rather

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/07/2006, at 11:31 PM, Dave Land wrote: For me, questions that compare the official report's explanation of the attack and its aftermath with the major common elements of the top couple of conspiracy theories (how is it that WTC 1 2 fell at very near free-fall-in-a-vacuum speeds;