Bryon Daly wrote:
As for N Korea, I'm slightly less concerned (but also less informed as I
haven't paid as close
attention to that situation).My understanding has been that while they
are belligerent, their m.o.
in the past has largely designed to induce other countries to pay them
off
From: John Garcia wrote:
my favorite is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but...my sentimental
favorite is Space Cadet, as it is the very first book I took out from
the local library the day I got my first library card in the 1st grade.
A sub-category of My Favorite Heinelin is My First Heinelin
John said:
Wasn't Charlemagne a German?
He was a Frank. They named France after those! (Charlemagne's court was
at Aix-la-Chapelle, and was the centre of a cultural renaissance in
Europe, and he conquered eastward not westward. Even though modern
France and Germany didn't exist then, I think
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=2326548
Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
Tue March 4, 2003 07:55 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A lawyer was arrested late Monday and charged with
trespassing at a public mall in the state of New York after refusing to
take off
Horn, John wrote:
Does anyone else get duplicate message from the list occassionally? I get
them alot on Zimmie's messages and just got one from Matt...
Don't know if this is a problem on my end or the list end...
- jmh
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Horn, John wrote:
Does anyone else get duplicate message from the list occassionally? I get
them alot on Zimmie's messages and just got one from Matt...
Don't know if this is a problem on my end or the list end...
- jmh
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http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/063/oped/Bush_cripples_his_AIDS_initiati
ve+.shtml
Bush cripples his AIDS initiative
By Frances Kissling, 3/4/2003
WASHINGTON
I WAS STUNNED and delighted when President George W. Bush announced in
his State of the Union address that he planned a major
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0304montini04.html
And to the republic . . . whatever that is
Mar. 4, 2003
A lot of people don't know that the man who wrote the Pledge of
Allegiance was a Baptist minister, and that he purposefully left out any
reference to God. I didn't know. A
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.J.RES.7:
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative
to the reference to God in the Pledge of Allegiance and on United States
currency. (Introduced in Senate)
SJ 7 IS
108th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. J. RES. 7
At 01:06 AM 3/6/03 -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote:
Horn, John wrote:
Does anyone else get duplicate message from the list occassionally? I get
them alot on Zimmie's messages and just got one from Matt...
Don't know if this is a problem on my end or the list end...
- jmh
At 09:40 PM 3/2/03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
Let me not forget punch machines (024, 026 -- actually printed the
contents
of the card on top of the card, 029 -- a bit more modern) and there used to
be rooms filled with these machines -- usually 10 - 100, depending on the
size of the business. This
At 03:41 PM 3/5/03 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
JJ wrote:
That's odd indeed. I remember when I started teaching (late 80's) when
BASIC was the standard. It may have been a regional thing, though.
Then, I got a notice from the College Board annouuncing the big switch to
PASCAL.
On a
At 09:40 PM 3/2/03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote:
Computers, ...OK my first machine was a 1401 and it had 4K of memory,
that's right, only 4K.
My first was an 1130 which had been upgraded from the basic model to have
8K of core memory¹, which meant the most precision I was ever able to coax
out of
Not that I am a habitual Ephedra user, but I have taken it in the past
(in dietary supplements) so I am aware of the risks and effects.
New York County Bans Sale of Ephedra
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/ap20030305_2037.html
Quote from the article.
The federal Food and Drug
At 02:53 AM 3/6/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=2326548
Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
Tue March 4, 2003 07:55 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A lawyer was arrested late Monday and charged with
trespassing at a public mall in the
At 07:28 AM 3/6/2003 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote:
600,000+ US homeless (with 35% of them being children)
800,000+ US AIDS sufferers
33 million living below the poverty threshold
...and this is what Congress is worried about?
My first answer is, no. Congress has never debated the above amendment.
John Garcia wrote:
my favorite is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but...
my sentimental favorite is Space Cadet, as it is
the very first book I took out from the local library
the day I got my first library card in the 1st grade.
My sentimental favourite is _Starship Troopers_,
that I
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:41:38AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
Perhaps the Founding Fathers should have gone home from Philadelphia
to worry about poverty. the fact that they wasted time on a silly
thing like the First Amendment is just ridiculous.
To compare the First Amendment to a
JDG wrote:
(...) we would essentially be stabbing our most
prominent Muslim ally in the back.
Stabbing Turkey in the back... Now, why does this
remind me of a certain game? :-)
Alberto Monteiro
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
It seems to me that a Mall is private property, and thus they have a right
to avoid the creation of confrontation on their property.
I suppose that he can argue that a Mall is essentially a created public
forum. but that argument seems like a
JDG asked:
Wasn't Charlemagne a German?
He was a _frank_. He might be german, if we take Germany
as a geographical term, but I don't know where he was
born
Alberto Monteiro
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http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Erik said:
To compare the First Amendment to a ridiculous argument about
including the phrase under God in a pledge of allegiance is one of
the most shallow and pathetic things I have heard from you, John.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:27:56PM +, Richard Baker wrote:
seems to me to expressly prohibit the under God, so I think that the
First Amendment is certainly relevant.
I didn't say it was irrelevant, I said it was shallow. The 1st amendment
has bigger fish to fry. And now I'll stop
Of course, the _actual criminal complaint_ (as opposed
to the propaganda from activists) tells a slightly
different story:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/crossgates1.html
Gautam
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- Original Message -
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
Of course, the _actual criminal complaint_ (as opposed
to the propaganda from
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Of course, the _actual criminal complaint_ (as opposed
to the propaganda from activists) tells a slightly
different story:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/crossgates1.html
Interesting - there's a dispute of fact, it seems. The complaint
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
JDG wrote:
(...) we would essentially be stabbing our most
prominent Muslim ally in the back.
Stabbing Turkey in the back... Now, why does this
remind me of a certain game? :-)
North Atlantic to Purple Border
next turn
Purple Border to The Big Jump
Is that
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 02:53 AM 3/6/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=2326548
Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
Tue March 4, 2003 07:55 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A lawyer was arrested late Monday and charged with
Julia Thompson wrote:
Stabbing Turkey in the back... Now, why does this
remind me of a certain game? :-)
North Atlantic to Purple Border
next turn
Purple Border to The Big Jump
Is that the game you're thinking of, Alberto? :)
It looks like that one :-)
Alberto
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Interesting - there's a dispute of fact, it seems. The complaint suggests
the two men were actively stopping other shoppers. In none of the news
stories I've read, however, do the mall cops actually repeat that
allegation. They just allege that other shoppers were
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marvin Long, Jr.
...
Interesting - there's a dispute of fact, it seems. The complaint suggests
the two men were actively stopping other shoppers. In none of the news
stories I've read, however, do the
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Interesting - there's a dispute of fact, it seems. The complaint suggests
the two men were actively stopping other shoppers. In none of the news
stories I've read, however, do the mall cops actually repeat that
Could be interesting if it works.
http://labs1.google.com/gvs.html
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John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world,
it is God's gift to
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or is the crux of the issue that the mall is private
property, so the
management and mall cops can do whatever they damn
well please? Excuse
me sir, that shirt you're wearing is disturbing
people. To prove that
you're behaving like a good
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From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote:
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda
...
If they were harassing shoppers - and I
would guess that they probably were - then I don't
even mind the mall telling them to leave.
The mall security people didn't ask them to leave.
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
--- Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or is the crux of the issue that the
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mall security people didn't ask them to leave.
They asked them to take
off their shirts. Do you mind that?
Since you guess they really were harassing
shoppers, why was mall
security's response to tell them to take off their
shirts? What
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
What I don't understand is the juxtaposition of the actions by the mall
security
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mall security people didn't ask them
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda
...
Since any criticism of the antiwar movement is
inevitably and immediately called censorship, and we
have a sworn statement that they were doing more than
the protesters claim, more
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
The Supreme Court should be one of them. There's no
serious question that _even if_ all they were doing
was wearing the shirt, the mall had a right to ask
them to leave, and arrest them for trespassing if they
did. See Instapundit's commentary, for
It is not, in fact, okay to
bother people on private property. Jackasses will
be
jackasses,
Ad hominems have no place here.
Nick
If you think that the description of someone who is
harassing people in a mall as a jackass is ad
hominem, as opposed to fair...I don't want to ever go
At 09:43 AM 3/6/2003 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:
It seems like we don't
even agree on what the basic issue is. To me, it's not about the law of
trespass. It is about our freedom to express ourselves without authorities,
in law enforcement or otherwise, on private or public property, using
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Out of curiosity, what if a group of anti-abortionists were wearing shirts
with anti-abortion slogans on it and coming to the mall every day to talk
to shoppers. No accosting, just asking people if they think that people
have a right to kill their own
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Dan Minette
...
I guess you didn't read the police report, in which the police officer
wrote
that he or she asked them to please cover or remove their shirts and
that
if they complied with my
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda
...
If you think that the description of someone who is
harassing people in a mall as a jackass is ad
hominem, as opposed to fair...I don't want to ever go
to a mall with you.
We didn't
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 09:43 AM 3/6/2003 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:
It seems like we don't
even agree on what the basic issue is. To me, it's not about the law
of
trespass. It is about our freedom to express ourselves without
authorities,
in law enforcement or
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you think that the description of someone who
is
harassing people in a mall as a jackass is ad
hominem, as opposed to fair...I don't want to ever
go
to a mall with you.
We didn't agree that there was harassment... but
more to the point,
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of John D. Giorgis
...
For example, if I wore a T-Shirt bearing the slogan Abortion is Muder in
bright red letters, and the mall authorities asked me to remove
my shirt, I
don't think that either you nor
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Reductio ad absurdum. Nobody is claiming that here.
The reference to brownshirt alludes to that, I think.
Self-appointed brownshirt - please get the whole quote. Which precludes
an accusation of government wrongdoing, but which, yes, certainly
At 12:12 PM 3/6/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
For example, if I wore a T-Shirt bearing the slogan Abortion is Muder
in
bright red letters, and the mall authorities asked me to remove my
shirt, I
don't think that either you nor The Fool would be posting an article
here
about my freedom of
- Original Message -
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Reductio ad absurdum. Nobody is
The Fool wrote:
I don't think that you really mean that.
For example, if I wore a T-Shirt bearing the slogan Abortion is Muder in
bright red letters, and the mall authorities asked me to remove my shirt, I
don't think that either you nor The Fool would be posting an article here
about
Doug Pensinger wrote:
From years of being on this list. The last Heinlein I attempted to
read was (I think) The Cat Who Walked Through Walls. Awful, and
probably why I haven't been inspired to read anything of his for a long
time.
I also thought The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.and The
I think the whole under God thing is rediculous, myself, but this reminded me
of a comment I've been meaning to make to comment along the following lines
since the Columbia disaster...
Jon Gabriel wrote:
600,000+ US homeless (with 35% of them being children)
800,000+ US AIDS sufferers
33
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Dan Minette wrote:
Reading through the complaint, I think what they couldn't stand is a heated
argument in the mall. And, that's exactly what the person arrested was
interested in. I agree that he probably didn't start the arguement, but
was happy when it started.
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Bryon Daly wrote:
How can we spend all that money on the space program when
there's all those homeless, starving people, etc. (paraphrased)
This is frustrating. I've found you can apply that argument against
many, many actions the govenment does. How do you defend
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 12:12 PM 3/6/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
For example, if I wore a T-Shirt bearing the slogan Abortion is Muder
in
bright red letters, and the mall authorities asked me to remove my
shirt, I
don't think that either you nor The Fool would be posting an article
Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
I'm sure you're correct on the legal implications of the mall being
private property, which suggests that to me that the mall is run by gits,
pure and simple.
If the mall is being run by gits, and you have a problem with gits, don't
bring your business to the mall. I
At 07:20 5-3-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:
Indeed, let me throw water on your idea with a simple QED.Such an
organization of democracies would, by definition include
France.France, however, will never agree to such an organization
unless it is given a veto power.
But then, the *US*
An editorial on Richard Stallman and why he is something of a secular saint
in the high-tech world:
http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/today/editorial_5.html
(It was the most pleasant thing on the editorial page today, IMO.)
Julia
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--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Of course the US will have to pay those costs --
those troops are *US*
troops. Your troops, your money.
Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk
Jeroen, out of idle curiosity, I know you think that
we sent those troops to the Middle East for the
-Original Message-
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: How can we do when there's 600,000+ US
homeless,etc?(Was:fight the religious dictators)
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Bryon Daly wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:24 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Of course the US will have to pay those costs --
those
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:24 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
Jeroen, out of idle curiosity, I know you think that
we sent those troops to the
Julia wrote:
So, that means that _Kiln People_ really ought to have spoiler space for
awhile yet, and _Startide Rising_ really, really ought not need it, IMO.
Hey, I haven't read any of the Uplift series yet! Spoiler space is necessary
if it's not clear from the subject that you are discussing
At 08:23 5-3-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
It's the self-righteous thrill of pointing out the flaws of the US. You
don't get that by actually doing something useful.
Pointing out the flaws of the US is in fact quite useful: it offers the US
the chance to improve itself. The only problem is
-Original Message-
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:55 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 15:21 5-3-2003 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
The US is very consistent. Clinton convinced Israel to make
unprecedented concessions in order to implement 242 on the West Bank.
Unfortunately he could not convince Palestine to implement 242. Any
suggestions on how he could force them to do it?
-Original Message-
From: Lalith Vipulananthan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 01:01 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: RE: Question about Spoilers
Julia wrote:
So, that means that _Kiln People_ really ought to have spoiler space
for awhile yet,
At 14:22 6-3-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
For example, if I wore a T-Shirt bearing the slogan Abortion is
Muder in bright red letters, and the mall authorities asked me to
remove my shirt, I don't think that either you nor The Fool would
be posting an article here about my freedom of
At 09:37 PM 3/6/2003 +0100 J. van Baardwijk wrote:
The same applies to you. You are associating with an US president who is
extremely eager to go to war,
Uh huh so eager that nearly one year and two months after the axis of
evil speech, he still hasn't gone to war.
who shows utter
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From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
At 15:21 5-3-2003 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
The US is very consistent. Clinton convinced Israel to make
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
I'm more curious as to under what circumstances you feel certain
countries -should- be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and why. Are
there countries that you're not 100% comfortable with possesion of nukes,
but would accept it under certain other conditions?
I'm not
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Lalith Vipulananthan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 01:01 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: RE: Question about Spoilers
Julia wrote:
So, that means that _Kiln People_ really ought to have
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
I think that if there were some sort of treaty between *all* countries
that
have nukes that vowed they would
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From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
You can't blame France for that -- if it were up to them,
Iraq would be a nuclear power controlling the
At 12:24 6-3-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Of course the US will have to pay those costs -- those troops are *US*
troops. Your troops, your money.
Jeroen, out of idle curiosity, I know you think that we sent those troops
to the Middle East for the amusement value,
That is in fact not my
Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
I think that if there were some sort of treaty between *all* countries
that
have
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
At 12:24 6-3-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Of course the US will have to pay those costs -- those
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: fight the religious dictators
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:41:38 -0500
At 07:28 AM 3/6/2003 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote:
600,000+ US homeless (with 35% of them
Jose wrote:
I'm going to make my weekly expedition to Borders in a couple of days. I'd
like to stock up on SciFi books. What's new and worthy out there?
Two excellent books that I read last year were _Perdido Street Station_ by
China Mieville and _Heroes Die_ by Matthew Woodring Stover.
-Original Message-
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 01:30 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Question about Spoilers
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
How was it? I've been avoiding Brin lately (gasp!) as the
last 2 I
read,
From: Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question about Spoilers
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:00:46 -
Julia wrote:
So, that means that _Kiln People_ really ought to have spoiler space for
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:37:39 +0100
At 08:23 5-3-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
snip
You might want to worry about who you're
--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
2. If you do, what would you do to stop him?
Try diplomacy first. If that doesn't work, try to
get his own people to
turn against him (food aid, medical aid,
information). As a last resort, if
everything else has failed, sent in a small
Jeffrey wrote:
:) I'm currently knee-deep in the Black Company series.. pulpy,
gratuitous, but for some reason, I can't stop reading 'em..
On a vaguely related note, has anyone here read Kage Baker's Company novels
(_In the Garden of Iden_, _Sky Coyote_ and _Mendoza in Hollywood_)? I have
http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=CF5F976A-A661-4E94-94B3DE54A8CE647A
Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix says Iraq's destruction of banned al-Samoud
missiles over the past several days constitutes what he calls real disarmament.
Mr. Blix, speaking with reporters Wednesday
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
Saddam runs a brutal dictatorship where all form of
resistance are met with immediate torture and
execution.
Jon wrote:
I estimate that I'll have the first chapter analysis post of Earth done
around April 15 and will plan on posting them every 4-6 weeks
subsequently.
That's subject to change if the project is more daunting than I think it
will be.
Ah, cool. I'd like to read that. I take this means
At 16:21 6-3-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:
The same applies to you. You are associating with an US president who
is extremely eager to go to war,
Uh huh so eager that nearly one year and two months after the axis of
evil speech, he still hasn't gone to war.
If it hadn't been for the
Finally, your third choice. And what expertise in
Special Ops leads you to believe that this is
possible? Watching _Air Force One_ probably isn't
enough. Now, I know a fair number of people in the
Special Ops community, and I know what their reaction
would be if you suggested something like
Jeffrey wrote:
How was it? I've been avoiding Brin lately (gasp!) as the last
2 I read, Sundiver and Practice Effect, I found to be.. well, not
my favorite books ever. Not bad, per se, just not so great.
Hearing what little I have about KP, I'm worried its an Saturday
Night Live book -
Julia said:
Not opposed, but not entirely comfortable. And I know that the US was
prepared to use nukes to defend Europe against another entity that
also had nukes, which is different from using nukes against a country
that doesn't have them.
Of course, for much of the Cold War there were
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:31:40 -0500 John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 02:53 AM 3/6/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=2326548
Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt
Tue March 4, 2003 07:55 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A lawyer was arrested late
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At 16:21 6-3-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:
The same applies to you. You are associating with an US
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At 12:24 6-3-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Of course the US will have to pay those costs
Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix says Iraq's destruction of banned
al-Samoud missiles over the past several days constitutes what he calls
real disarmament.
I'd prefer to see this quote in context with the rest of the report.
Demolition of a few missiles is meaningless if the
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Of course, for much of the Cold War there were two
European nations each
with enough tactical and strategic nukes to defend
Europe against a
Soviet attack. (The US stockpile was excessive for
this and any other
purpose [except, of course, for
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