Re: PC-Vgames and Eye Problems: Help!

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: I've experienced serious dizzy spells and nausea bouts while playing computer/video games. The type of games that seems to affect me are those in the style of Wolfenstein 3D, Hitman, Hitman2, and (unfortunately) Bounty Hunter. My dizzy spells seem to be a

Re: College to apologize to Bush for professor

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 05:41 PM 3/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030307-093444-9730r FIRE's Chief Executive Officer, Thor L. Halvorssen, praised the school. When fully informed of a frightening violation of freedom of conscience, the college administration

Re: SADDAM'S SOLDIERS SURRENDER

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert Seeberger wrote: TERRIFIED Iraqi soldiers have crossed the Kuwait border and tried to surrender to British forces - because they thought the war had already started. The motley band of a dozen troops waved the white flag as British paratroopers tested their weapons during a

Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
William T Goodall wrote: In more recent seasons they have streamlined this a bit (how boring is a 'learning the language' scene in every ep?) - feel free to imagine it for yourself if it bugs you :) Basically, the aliens either have a universal translator, or the first contact team

Re: College to apologize to Bush for professor

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 05:41 PM 3/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030307-093444-9730r FIRE's Chief Executive Officer, Thor L. Halvorssen, praised the school. When fully informed of a frightening violation of freedom of conscience, the college administration

Re: SADDAM'S SOLDIERS SURRENDER

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert Seeberger wrote: TERRIFIED Iraqi soldiers have crossed the Kuwait border and tried to surrender to British forces - because they thought the war had already started. The motley band of a dozen troops waved the white flag as British paratroopers tested their weapons during a

Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
William T Goodall wrote: In more recent seasons they have streamlined this a bit (how boring is a 'learning the language' scene in every ep?) - feel free to imagine it for yourself if it bugs you :) Basically, the aliens either have a universal translator, or the first contact team

Re: The War on Schools

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, AFAIK, there isn't much of a teacher shortage in the country these days... which implies that teachers are being paid plenty. I'd believe that teachers are underpaid if you could demonstrate a nationwide teacher shortage. Jon

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:19:04PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: 'pologize for speaking metaphorically. What I mean is that violence begets violence. You claimed that directly attacking terrorist killers is a bad idea because more will be created by your actions than you

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: You claimed that directly attacking terrorist killers is a bad idea I think so. Terrorist killers should be praised, not attacked Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/11/2003 6:03:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erik Reuter wrote: You claimed that directly attacking terrorist killers is a bad idea I think so. Terrorist killers should be praised, not attacked Alberto Monteiro

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:01:52AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I think so. Terrorist killers should be praised, not attacked Especially terrorist killers who attack Alberto. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:32:06AM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:01:52AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I think so. Terrorist killers should be praised, not attacked Especially terrorist killers who attack Alberto. I just realized what you meant. Perhaps I

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: I think so. Terrorist killers should be praised, not attacked Especially terrorist killers who attack Alberto. Terrorist killers don't attack me - I am not a terrorist. Alberto Monteiro ___

David Frum on France

2003-03-11 Thread J.D. Giorgis
From David Frum's Blog: I’m in Minneapolis, Minnesota, but thanks to the miracle of modern satellite technology, I was able to join yesterday in a French television program that pitted former French foreign minister Hubert Vedrine against a line-up of North American sparring partners. Vedrine too

Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2840013.stm A civil servant who complained about being made to wear a collar and tie to work has won a sex discrimination case. Matthew Thompson, 32, said it was unfair he had to dress formally to work at the Jobcentre Plus, in Stockport, Greater

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys Dan Minette wrote: Given the fact that France was opposed to continuing the inspections and

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then show why it's in their interest *in the long-term.* Offhand, I'd say that the Muslim extremists will eventually target France because they are, after all, part of the hated West - women aren't veiled, they vote and drive, and religion is

RE: The War on Schools

2003-03-11 Thread Horn, John
From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the reasons I went to summer school and took some of the required courses such as history and social studies was to free up time to take electives during the regular school year. One of the courses I took that way was

This is why

2003-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
it's not inappropriate to say that some anti-war protesters are, in fact, anti-American. http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

Re: This is why

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: it's not inappropriate to say that some anti-war protesters are, in fact, anti-American. http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html Well, *that* was rather uncivil. I'd file civil charges against them, regardless of whether or not

States' rights

2003-03-11 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On 05 Mar 2003, John Giorgis wrote: France, however, will never agree to such an organization unless it is given a veto power. To which J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded by saying But then, the *US* will also never agree to such an organisation unless it is given

US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On 8 November 2002, states in the United Nations with veto power, that is, with rights as individual states to prevent super-state action, agreed ... that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), ...

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Robert J. Chassell
My question is not `who should be sheriff?' but `who should be the government that employs the sheriff, and what should be its form?' Should the United States emply the sheriff? Or should the United Nations as currently constituted? Or should the UN be revised, or should it be a different

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * on the other side, those who ask, `is Iraq now a part of a larger war, much as Morocco, the first country the US invaded in World War II, was a small part of a larger war?' Someone else is reading USS Clueless :-) Gautam

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-11 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am greatly offended by the above tread title. Can we change it to Snail Eating Surrender Apes instead? I happen to like cheese and feel it hurts the cheese-producing centers of the world to link cheese JUST to the French. MANY European nations make cheese. I also

Re: PC-Vgames and Eye Problems: Help!

2003-03-11 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had similar problems with 1st-person shooter style games, though I got used to it after a while. One thing that helped is to change the POV to be just over the shoulder, behind the character, instead of the default view from the eyes of the character.

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 11 Mar 2003 at 7:00, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Now, there is one way to convince France that it is in their long term interest to support us. And that is to make it clear that there will be consequences to opposing us. Attack the European Union structure, for example, and you weaken

Re: States' rights

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Baker
Robert said: In contrast, western Europe lacked the notion of states' rights. Between 1790 and 1990, Europe suffered the Napoleonic Wars, the Franco-Prussian War, World War I and World War II. No, western Europe is an example of what happens when the rights of states are too great - there was

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually no. You attack the EU, and you force the EU to respond. You reinforce the us and them mentality, and you bolster support for a Federal Europe. Andy That depends on how you do it. Note that I'm not (necessarily) advocating this

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 11 Mar 2003 at 10:04, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually no. You attack the EU, and you force the EU to respond. You reinforce the us and them mentality, and you bolster support for a Federal Europe. Andy That depends on how you do

[Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... (maybe someone's already posted this, but I have ~ 480 posts to clear, so I'm passing it on) Cowboys and Muslims Three men are sittin' on a bench...One's a Texan wearing a Stetson, One's a muslim wearing a Turban, and the last an Apache Indian

Re: What Czech taxes are going to...

2003-03-11 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jon Gabriel wrote: Well, apparently it *is* the size of your bullfrog that matters. :) Jon snip Chief zoologist Vitezslav Honsa added: We even went as far as getting a tape for them with frog sounds on it so they could make love. No Barry White? No Ohio Players?

RE: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 08:19 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Man wins tie sex ruling William T Goodall wrote: Ties are for weddings and funerals, not for daily life. I like dress codes

Rep. Arlon Lindner, R-Corcoran

2003-03-11 Thread William T Goodall
I came across a story about this amazing chap at http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=1id=2942 So I followed up a few links to get some choice snippets: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3739360.html I was a child during World War II, and I've read a lot about World War II, he

Re: Rep. Arlon Lindner, R-Corcoran

2003-03-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
``As a Christian, I am offended that we would have the Dalai Lama come and speak,'' said Rep. Arlon Lindner, R-Corcoran, in an e-mail to colleagues. I hope he is aware that the Internet is satanic by nature, so he is forever damning his soul to hell by using e-mail, doesn't he?

Re: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: -Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 08:19 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Man wins tie sex ruling William T Goodall wrote: Ties are for weddings and funerals, not for daily

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert J. Chassell wrote: Should international legislation be based on the current UN two-fold system in which, on the one hand, individual states, no matter how small, have one vote when they become temporary members of the UN Security Council; but which other states are permanent members

RE: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Man wins tie sex ruling Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:30:55 -0800 -Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Funky Musicals Was [RE: BR!N: Re: a call to the irregulars!]

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: It can't be worse than the Star Trek TOS: The Musical which was under development sometime around the 25th. Anniversary of Trek. I remember reading about Kirk's ode to the Enterprise... You couldn't have let me go to my grave *without* knowing about this? :P

Re: Funky Musicals Was [RE: BR!N: Re: a call to the irregulars!]

2003-03-11 Thread Bryon Daly
Julia Thompson wrote: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: It can't be worse than the Star Trek TOS: The Musical which was under development sometime around the 25th. Anniversary of Trek. I remember reading about Kirk's ode to the Enterprise... You couldn't have let me go to my grave *without*

Re: PC-Vgames and Eye Problems: Help!

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: The articles describe, however, that these symptoms are often associated (get a load of this) with a relatively mild type of a specific form of epilepsy. I was able to confirm this through a local neurologist. My mother-in-law had a bad form of epilepsy when she was

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... (maybe someone's already posted

Re: Funky Musicals Was [RE: BR!N: Re: a call to the irregulars!]

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: It can't be worse than the Star Trek TOS: The Musical which was under development sometime around the 25th. Anniversary of Trek. I remember reading about Kirk's ode to the Enterprise... You couldn't have let

You are what you read

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
From another list I'm on (I'm amused by the NYT one): People By Their Newspapers... 1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the country. 2. The Washington Post is read by people who think they run the country. 3. The New York Times is read by people who think they should run

RE: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:53 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Man wins tie sex ruling Miller, Jeffrey wrote: (Of course, in the case of 2), some females might have gotten away with not

Re: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: When the anthrax scares were happening last year, our Reno, NV warehouse was evacuated and everyone exposed to the mysterious, white powder hosed down by the hazmat/firedepartment team in the parking lot. Ah. So it would be known if anyone had neglected the proper

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:04 PM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) This is *awful*...but good sick gallows

RE: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
William T Goodall wrote: Ties are for weddings and funerals, not for daily life. I like dress codes based on some very simple premises. Frex, the dress code based on the two following premises: 1) Nobody wants to smell anyone else's BO. 2) Nobody wants to see your underwear. (Of

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:47 10-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Don't forget our wonderful, non democratic means for selecting a president. Well, there are a lot of advantages to republican government over democratic. What are those alleged advantages, and *why* are they advantages? Jeroen Political Inquiries van

RE: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:06 10-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Russia and China probably would not veto this were it not for France. Why wouldn't they? I'd say that Russia and China are quite capable of making their own decisions, without having to follow France's lead. The phrase No Blood for Oil, couldn't be

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:39 10-03-03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: A bit of wisdom from our benefactor: To ever come close to what's really going on, I must learn to double check, to experiment, and even consult and cooperate with other people. Mutual deliberation, or giving of reality checks, helps us agree on

Re: Genghis Khan, super-stud

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 01:01 11-03-03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote: It's not Holland, it's The Netherlands. The name Holland refers only to the area covered by two of our 12 provinces, Noord-Holland en Zuid-Holland. Class dismissed. :-) OK, teacher, so how come it isn't Nederlanden instead of Nederland? Actually, both

RE: Genghis Khan, super-stud

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 01:12 11-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: No, not really, in 1971 Philips offered me a job in Eindhoven to be trained as a hardware support guy. Eindhoven. I seem to recall Jeroen saying he and Sonja live there? Of course, I could be wrong No, you are correct -- we do live in

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:58 11-03-03 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Terrorist killers don't attack me - I am not a terrorist. Of course you're not. No self-respecting terrorist would call himself a terrorist -- he'd call himself a freedom fighter. GRIN Jeroen One man's terrorist... etcetera van Baardwijk

RE: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:30 11-03-03 -0800, Jeffrey Miller wrote: Not here. We have a strict, company-wide rule that's actually printed in the Employee Handbook: Proper undergarmets must be worn at all times Ah, but does the Employee Handbook also define proper? I mean, the definition of proper undergarments as

Re: Rep. Arlon Lindner, R-Corcoran

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:46 11-03-03 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: ``As a Christian, I am offended that we would have the Dalai Lama come and speak,'' said Rep. Arlon Lindner, R-Corcoran, in an e-mail to colleagues. I hope he is aware that the Internet is satanic by nature, so he is forever damning his soul

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:04 11-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Cowboys and Muslims Three men are sittin' on a bench...One's a Texan wearing a Stetson, One's a muslim wearing a Turban, and the last an Apache Indian with an Eagle feather woven in his hair. The Indian is rather glum and says, Once my people were

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:13:36 +0100 At 22:47 10-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Don't forget our wonderful, non democratic means

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:16:03 -0500 At 17:08 2003-03-11 -0500, Jon wrote: From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: Situation Spiraling Out of Control

2003-03-11 Thread Damon
of control like this. I can think of situations where a miscalculation caused a war (the first Gulf War is a good example) but not one that could be described as spiraling out of control. I think the start of World War I *might* fit the bill but I'm not up on my WWI history, unfortunately. I

Re: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 11:30 11-03-03 -0800, Jeffrey Miller wrote: Not here. We have a strict, company-wide rule that's actually printed in the Employee Handbook: Proper undergarmets must be worn at all times Ah, but does the Employee Handbook also define proper? I mean, the

Re: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:35:27PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I wonder if the policy-makers had anything in mind with respect to bras? Did you see the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was upset about the woman who never wore a bra, so Elaine gave her a bra for a present, and the woman wore the

Re: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:35:27PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I wonder if the policy-makers had anything in mind with respect to bras? Did you see the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was upset about the woman who never wore a bra, so Elaine gave her a bra for a present,

Wrapped up in Crypto Bottles

2003-03-11 Thread The Fool
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/14337/1.html A talk with cyber-rights pioneer John Perry Barlow about Digital Restrictions Management and the future of human knowledge ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Like: How do you fit forty four people in a Volkswagon? Uh Oh!!! We be thinking alike Kevin! xponent

RE: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert J. Chassell Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: US out of UN? On 8 November 2002, states in the United Nations with veto power, that is, with rights as

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
I wrote: much snippage Well, what Powell et al. are doing right now - intense lobbying - is worth trying... rest snipped I'll add that Bush is getting in on the lobbying personally (phone calls), from what I heard on the news; this is laudable. Debbi who's comenting out-of-turn, but hopes to

RE: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, I'm getting tired of seeing people who oppose this decision being labeled supporters of the current regime in Iraq. I'm not going to shoot Jerry Falwell, but that doesn't mean I support him. Can we please, here at least, acknowledge that

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if

Re: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert J. Chassell Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: US out of UN? On 8 November 2002, states in the United Nations with veto power,

Re: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: Other than that you don't seem to like people who support the war and try to paint them as crypto-fascists who want to eliminate dissent Personally, I prefer crypto-anarchists to crypto-fascists, at least if I get to choose who I'm going to hang around with. (The

RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:17 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-11 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:15 PM 3/11/2003 +0100 J. van Baardwijk wrote: The US doesn't seem to be planning to go to war against Saudi Arabia anytime soon. Following your logic, the US is thereby wholeheartedly supporting the oppressive and terrorism-supporting regime of Saudi Arabia. I agree. In fact, I believe

Re: Iran's Nuclear Threat

2003-03-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: You claimed that directly attacking terrorist killers is a bad idea because more will be created by your actions than you eliminate. Now you apologize, but do you now retract that claim as being a bad metaphor? I am not being deliberately obtuse here -- I think it is a key

Re: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys

2003-03-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: In short, the question is not whether the US should listen to the advise from other countries concerning how to solve a mutual problem. The question is whether countries like France are actually working towards solving those problems. I'm too worn out for another long reply

RE: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:06 PM 3/11/2003 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote: Moreover, it appears that the US government will decide that without a follow-up the other major countries in the UN will have made the UN irrelevant, and will withdraw (or `suspend' itself) from it. The United States has gone to war a number of

RE: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... There are three problems with this: 1. The single most prominent opponent of the war effort - the French government - has, over the past 12 years, provided immense evidence that they

RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:48 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is

Re: Man wins tie sex ruling

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:35:27PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I wonder if the policy-makers had anything in mind with respect to bras? Erik Reuter wrote: Did you see the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was upset about the woman who never wore a bra, so Elaine gave her a bra for a

Re: US out of UN?

2003-03-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick Arnett wrote: Where is *your* true, strong voice, the one that says, Here is what I believe in, with the courage to let your words stand on their own, the man know knows that contempt for those who disagree weakens you? I know that all of us have that voice, but it is far too rare nowadays.

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon Gabriel wrote: It didn't exactly sound like a warning encouraging American self-examination to me. Hmm, I can sympathize with your reaction, but the above is how I interpreted the joke. While we're on the subject, I asked the other day why it is that the use of Nazi symbols is inherently

Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-11 Thread Medievalbk
(4) Mel Brooks would laugh at it. In To Be Or Not To Be, he did play a 'wipe out the Jews' game and out finessed the Nazis. It's all how you look at it, and some people shouldn't look when warned. William Taylor - Debbi or naughty Debbi? I aint a quisling.