RE: [Brin-l] Re: the right to read

2002-09-17 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: dinsdag 17 september 2002 21:23 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: [Brin-l] Re: the right to read > > The deal with extensive training is different. Usually when your > > employer pays for ext

RE: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwarded posting)

2002-09-17 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: dinsdag 17 september 2002 15:54 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: > Forwarded posting) > > One of the reasons why Brin-L was not moved to Yahoo

Re: [Brin-l] RE: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
They aren't even visible in Hotmail's web-based html interface. All we get is the standard sig line: ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Jon, who's about to sit down and watch Guy Pearce do the time warp again. :-) GCU Hopefully Helpf

[Brin-l] Sorry about that

2002-09-17 Thread Doug
I didn't mean to send my last a second time, my apologies. Doug Click happy. 8^( ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

[Brin-l] Brin: Freedom v Security

2002-09-17 Thread Doug
from The Transparent Society, page 208: "...can we prevent some future panic or security crisis from alarming the public so much that it willingly surrenders some or all of its freedom, in hope of escaping mortal danger." and "...grand moralistic statements will seem like droplets in a whirlw

Re: [Brin-l] Brazilian Elections

2002-09-17 Thread Doug
Alberto Monteiro wrote: >Doug asked: > >>Alberto, what's your take on the presidential elections >>down there? >> >I think Serra will win. I said so 6 months ago, when he >was pooled in 4th, and I still believe it - now he is 2nd. > What if Lula wins? He and the 3rd leading candidate are

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread Doug
The Fool wrote: >>From: Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>The Fool wrote: >> >>> >>> No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they wrote? There ain't no "signal" travelling FTL. >>>No individual particle is traveling above c. But the pulse is. >>>Pulse-Modulation

[Brin-l] RE: Happy New Year!

2002-09-17 Thread Halupovich Ilana
Tom Beck wrote <> I almost forgot - but then I so program on Russian TV. The name is Eliyahu Rips and he is Professor of Mathematics in Jerusalem University http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~rips/ - the interesting thing is at the end of the page - Torah Codes - claim that you can find *everything* in T

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread The Fool
> From: Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Fool wrote: > > > >> No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they > >> wrote? There ain't no "signal" travelling FTL. > > > > No individual particle is traveling above c. But the pulse is. > > Pulse-Modulation. > > > Sure. Then se

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Brin-l] light-speed > > The Fool wrote: > > > >> No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they > >> wrote? There ain't no "signal" trav

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > >> No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they >> wrote? There ain't no "signal" travelling FTL. > > No individual particle is traveling above c. But the pulse is. > Pulse-Modulation. > Sure. Then send some information at 4c using this Pulse-Modulation :-P Alberto

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > Jeroen wrote: > > > > Third issue: > > > > The same goes for .sig at the bottom of every message: > > > >> ___ > >> Brin-l mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > > > > One of the

Re: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin:Forwardedposting)

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > At 15:07 17-09-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >I have the same stuff in the messages for the other high-traffic (i.e., > >100 posts a day not unheard of, 20+ very common) list I'm on. I haven't > >heard anyone complain there, and people complain more vocefer

RE: [Brin-l] Re: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
Jeroen wrote: > > Third issue: > > The same goes for .sig at the bottom of every message: > >> ___ >> Brin-l mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > > One of the reasons why Brin-L was not mov

RE: [Brin-l] shrink wrap

2002-09-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
What's really important here is not whether Bowers or Baystate/CadKey wins, but the precedent the court is setting with the facts as it presents them. This decision flies in the face of some well-known Federal Circuit Court decisions that have basically said that, in a case like this, the reverse

Re: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwardedpostin g)

2002-09-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:07 17-09-2002 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: >I have the same stuff in the messages for the other high-traffic (i.e., >100 posts a day not unheard of, 20+ very common) list I'm on. I haven't >heard anyone complain there, and people complain more voceferously there >about things like that tha

Re: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwardedposting)

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > Second issue: depending on the e-mail client used, I see the following > > in every message (visible in Eudora, hidden in Outlook): > > > > hidden in Pegasus Mail 4.1 as well. As in the preview pane of Eudora -- have to actually open the message for it to show. A

Re: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwardedpostin g)

2002-09-17 Thread Andrew Crystall
> Second issue: depending on the e-mail client used, I see the following > in every message (visible in Eudora, hidden in Outlook): hidden in Pegasus Mail 4.1 as well. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: [Brin-l] Re: the right to read

2002-09-17 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 17 Sep 2002 at 9:34, Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO wrote: > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: Deborah Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Verzonden: Geen > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: [Brin-l] Re: the right to read > > > Unless they've given you extensive train

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 17 Sep 2002 at 8:10, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Doug wrote: > > > >> No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they > >> wrote? There ain't no "signal" travelling FTL. > > > > So explain to me what _is_ traveling at 4C. > > > Suppose you have Galactic-Overlord powers, and place

Re: [Brin-l] Brin-L & Yahoo Groups.

2002-09-17 Thread Reggie Bautista
>Gary Nunn wrote: > > > Is this list going to be echoed to Yahoo Groups like the Cornell list >was? I > > don't know if anyone else found that useful, but I enjoyed it because I > > could follow postings from work. Also I think it is a good way for >potential > > new members to find us if they d

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread The Fool
> From: Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Electric signals can be transmitted at least four times > > faster than the speed of light (...) > > No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they > wrote? There ain't no "signal" travelling FTL. No individual particle is traveling abo

Re: [Brin-l] RE: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: > > Okay, here's a bit more on the server settings. > > The server does, indeed, send a digest daily, whether or not it has reached > 60K. We can turn that off, but I assume that folks would like it on. > Please let us know if 60K is too low a trigger (in other words, those >

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Matt Grimaldi
> Jeroen wrote: > > > > Third issue: > > > > The same goes for .sig at the bottom of every message: > > > >> ___ > >> Brin-l mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > > > > One of the reasons why Brin-L wa

Re: [Brin-l] Irregulars Question: drag and drop using Qt

2002-09-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Jeroen asked: > > > > Qt? What is Qt? > > > A kit for developing GUI applications whose source codes > should work for Linux, Mac and Windoze. > > The "hello, world" program is something like: > > #include > #include > > int main( int argc, char **argv ) > { > QAppli

[Brin-l] RE: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Nick Arnett
Okay, here's a bit more on the server settings. The server does, indeed, send a digest daily, whether or not it has reached 60K. We can turn that off, but I assume that folks would like it on. Please let us know if 60K is too low a trigger (in other words, those receiving digests are getting mul

Re: [Brin-l] Re: [Brin-l (new)] pretty much just a test

2002-09-17 Thread Jim Sharkey
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > Jim Sharkey wrote: > > Mmmm, ripped bodices... > > > > I'm sorry, what were we discussing again? :-) > > men.;o) Yes, we are pigs, but it's part of our charm. At least, I hope it is. :-D Jim Changed y

RE: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwardedposting)

2002-09-17 Thread Nick Arnett
> That is one of the things I have been thinking about. Rather then > sending a > Digest every 60K, would it be possible to simply send one Digest > per day, as > we had on Cornell? That's one of the few things that Mailman doesn't support directly. However, I suspect that it may send a digest

Re: [Brin-l] Good domain registrar

2002-09-17 Thread The Fool
> From: Adrian Hon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I was looking through the archives of this list and came across the > discussion on domain name registrars. I'd recommend www.gandi.net - they've > come highly recommended from many other people around the world. I use them > myself and I haven't encounter

Re: [Brin-l] Initial posting

2002-09-17 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
Whoa, I fix my mail filters to take the new list address into account, and all of a sudden I have cool mail! Welcome back! Marvin Long Austin, Texas On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, d.brin wrote: > > > This is just a message to thank Nick A. for setting up this new > revitalization of Brin-L > > I do ho

Re: Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwardedposting)

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
"Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO" wrote: > > > Third issue: > > The same goes for .sig at the bottom of every message: > > > ___ > > Brin-l mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > > One of the re

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Childproofing, was Re: Proposal from DB

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > Sonja wrote: > > > > > > > > I forgot to mention cleaning > > > out kitchen kabinets. > > > > There are devices sold to prevent little fingers (or > > paws!) from opening cabinet doors; > > I've seen them, but they need s

Re: [Brin-l] Brin-L & Yahoo Groups.

2002-09-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > Gary Nunn wrote: > > > Is this list going to be echoed to Yahoo Groups like the Cornell list was? I > > don't know if anyone else found that useful, but I enjoyed it because I > > could follow postings from work. Also I think it is a good way for potential >

[Brin-l] Re: Changing Server Settings

2002-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jeroen wrote: > > Third issue: > > The same goes for .sig at the bottom of every message: > >> ___ >> Brin-l mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > > One of the reasons why Brin-L was not mov

Changing Server Settings (was RE: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwarded posting)

2002-09-17 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: dinsdag 17 september 2002 01:13 > Aan: Brin-L@Mccmedia. Com > Onderwerp: [Brin-l] Brin: Forwarded posting > Oh, and I'm working with him on the weekly digest thing. The server > issues digests when the

RE: [Brin-l] Re: the right to read

2002-09-17 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Deborah Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: Geen > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: [Brin-l] Re: the right to read > Unless they've given you extensive training, I agree that it's unfair. The deal with extensive training is different. Usua

[Brin-l] religion, politics, big business VS science

2002-09-17 Thread The Fool
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26554-2002Sep16.html HHS Seeks Science Advice to Match Bush Views By Rick Weiss Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, September 17, 2002; Page A01 The Bush administration has begun a broad restructuring of the scientific advisory committees tha

[Brin-l] shrink wrap

2002-09-17 Thread The Fool
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/09/16/020916opgripe.xml The Gripe Line Ed Foster Headed in reverse SUPPOSE YOU'RE A software developer with the good habit of keeping an eye on what the competition is doing. And suppose you find a new feature in your competitor's lat

Re: [Brin-l] Irregulars Question: drag and drop using Qt

2002-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jeroen asked: > > Qt? What is Qt? > A kit for developing GUI applications whose source codes should work for Linux, Mac and Windoze. The "hello, world" program is something like: #include #include int main( int argc, char **argv ) { QApplication app( argc, argv ); QLabel

Re: [Brin-l] Brazilian Elections

2002-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug asked: > > Alberto, what's your take on the presidential elections > down there? > I think Serra will win. I said so 6 months ago, when he was pooled in 4th, and I still believe it - now he is 2nd. > How do you feel about the increasing emphasis on security? > It's an important

Re: [Brin-l] light-speed

2002-09-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug wrote: > >> No, they can't. Why those guys can't read what they >> wrote? There ain't no "signal" travelling FTL. > > So explain to me what _is_ traveling at 4C. > Suppose you have Galactic-Overlord powers, and place some bombs that will make a string of stars in such a sequence t

RE: [Brin-l] Irregulars Question: drag and drop using Qt

2002-09-17 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: Geen > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: [Brin-l] Irregulars Question: drag and drop using Qt > Has anyone here experienced frustation trying to implement an idiotically > simple drag-and-drop in

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Childproofing, was Re: Proposal from DB

2002-09-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Deborah Harrell wrote: > Sonja wrote: > > > > > I forgot to mention cleaning > > out kitchen kabinets. > > There are devices sold to prevent little fingers (or > paws!) from opening cabinet doors; I've seen them, but they need screwing into either the doors or the frame. The ones you need

Re: [Brin-l] codex

2002-09-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
The Fool wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,790733,00.html > > The Drug cartel wins again: > > Britain/EU To Ban Retail > Vitamins/Mineral Supplements? > At the end of last year there was a really big scare because every single piece of herbal stuff would have had to be ta

[Brin-l] Brin: Freedom v Security

2002-09-17 Thread Doug
from The Transparent Society, page 208: "...can we prevent some future panic or security crisis from alarming the public so much that it willingly surrenders some or all of its freedom, in hope of escaping mortal danger." and "...grand moralistic statements will seem like droplets in a whir

Re: [Brin-l] Re: [Brin-l (new)] pretty much just a test

2002-09-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Jim Sharkey wrote: > Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > To be fair, they are not the best sf I've ever read. Still very > > entertaining. > > But so are 'bodice rippers' (thanks, I'll keep that one in my > > vocabulary) when the mood is right. > > Mmmm, ripped bodices... > > I'm sorry, what w

Re: [Brin-l] Brin-L & Yahoo Groups.

2002-09-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Gary Nunn wrote: > Is this list going to be echoed to Yahoo Groups like the Cornell list was? I > don't know if anyone else found that useful, but I enjoyed it because I > could follow postings from work. Also I think it is a good way for potential > new members to find us if they do a search on