Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Who says M$ won't have users pay to play M$-Linux? It's possible that the worse nightmare of the free-software jihad community happens: M$ may embrace, extend and then extinguish Linux. The way they "embraced and extended" the Web with Inter

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something tha

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Dave Land wrote: I am not like our friend Mario with his "57 Varieties" approach to operating systems. I use Mac OS X almost exclusively because operating system fit and finish matter to me. (This is not a statement of superiority to Mario, merely noting a diffe

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html It's brilliant start to finish, but I especially liked: Trying to make an OS out of Chrome is like saying you're going to turn a Pontiac Aztek into a st

Re: Screwy Irregulars Question

2009-07-02 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I have a new lawn mower. According to the instructions I need to change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about how long it ran mowing the whole ya

Re: .....did this not count as a Thought Crime.....?

2009-05-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 12, 2009, at 5:25 PM, nanotreasu...@yahoo.com wrote: ... or was it just a straight Frame-Up? Prosecutors Richard Gregorie and Jacqueline Arango focused on the group's intent as captured on dozens of FBI audio and video recordings. Batiste is repeatedly heard espousing violence again

Re: Texan Education

2009-05-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 7, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Bruce Bostwick > wrote: On May 6, 2009, at 5:57 PM, William Goodall wrote: Anti-evolutionist Don McLeroy, a dentist and chair of the Texas State Board of Education, testified at Friday's hearing: &qu

Re: Texan Education

2009-05-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 6, 2009, at 5:57 PM, William Goodall wrote: Anti-evolutionist Don McLeroy, a dentist and chair of the Texas State Board of Education, testified at Friday's hearing: "I disagree with these experts. Someone has got to stand up to experts." Especially people who .. you know .. lack any

Re: Sausage surprise at Miskatonic University

2009-04-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: WTG wrote: http://pics.livejournal.com/maraz_m_moroz/pic/0046chq5/g27 Is this Miskatonic University where one of the three existing copies of the Necronomicon lies? (the other sites are the secret Vatican files, and the secret nazi bunker

Re: Freeman Dyson on climate

2009-03-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Mar 28, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: One of Dyson's main points is that global warming tends to get exaggerated. People of our generation or even the next one are extremely unlikely to die from the effects of global warming. Even a few generations down the road it is still unlik

Re: Cool dolphin behavior

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Think I've seen something like that. They manage rather interesting and subtle tricks with them. (Found that while looking up how to make a vortex ring generator like the one I saw at Maker Faire.) On Mar 22, 2009, at 21:50, Julia Thompson wrote: Dolphins blowing bubble rings and playin

Re: Australian Fires and Floods

2009-02-10 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Rob asked: >> >> Anyone know of a good way an >> American can be helpful? >> > Probably not now. The worst problem in this kind of disaster is > logistics, not money. > > Since December, the brazilian state of Santa Catarina - among > the rich

Re: Australian Fires and Floods

2009-02-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 8, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: >> Repeating the call-out on the Culture list. >> Are our Aussie friends doing OK? >> We worry for you. > > > Yeah... 96 dead. Sounding too much like the Oakland Hills firestorm > times > 10. Already four times as many killed. > > Very scary. > >

Re: Bill Hicks on Letterman **This Friday**

2009-02-01 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:55 PM, David Hobby wrote: > Rceeberger wrote: >> http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/01/28/this-friday-on-letterman-bill- >> hicks/ >> >> 15 years after Bill Hicks' death, the famous segment cut from >> Letterman's >> show will be shown. >> Hicks was quite bitter that this monologu

Re: My robot is more popular than I am

2009-01-30 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: >>> I have a rock that's more interesting than Nick is. >>> >>> Charlie. >>> It Does Happen To Be A Fossil Ammonite, If That Counts For Anything >>> Maru >> >> To be fair, ammonites are rather interesting. I was going to say >> "that must be some r

Re: My robot is more popular than I am

2009-01-30 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:53 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: > On 30/01/2009, at 8:08 AM, Dave Land wrote: >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: >> >>> Tweetsnet now has more Twitter followers than I do. >>> Competition between people writing robots and people detecting >>> robots is >>> leading

Re: Bill Hicks on Letterman **This Friday**

2009-01-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 06:19 PM Wednesday 1/28/2009, Rceeberger wrote: >> http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/01/28/this-friday-on-letterman-bill- >> hicks/ >> >> 15 years after Bill Hicks' death, the famous segment cut from >> Letterman's >> show will be shown. >> Hi

Re: Scouted: Would you like some mercury with your Coke?

2009-01-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 27, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> http://www.ehjournal.net/content/8/1/2 >> >> According to this recent study, the process used to create some high >> fructose corn syrups adds at least trace amounts of mercury to the >> end >> product. As if there weren't already enough rea

Re: The Mac is 25

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 23, 2009, at 7:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > Apple officially launched the Macintosh 25 years ago, Jan. 24, 1984. > > History Maru > -- William T Goodall > Mail : w...@wtgab.demon.co.uk > Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk > Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ > > “Babies are born

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 23, 2009, at 5:07 PM, xponentrob wrote: > From: "xponentrob" > To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years? > > >> *** >> So I

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:00 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: > Since then, I've been seeing promises of competative electric cars. > When > gas prices were at $4.50/gallon, the premium for hybrids was within > $1000 > of being a wash. But, now that prices are back close to $1.50 > (aroun

Re: The Hunt For Goldilocks

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > >> On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, xponentrob wrote: >>> >>>> - Original Message - >>&g

Re: The Hunt For Goldilocks

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, xponentrob wrote: > >> - Original Message - >> From: "Charlie Bell" >> To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" >> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:53 PM >> Subject: Re: The Hunt For Goldilocks >> >> >>> He

Homebrew triodes ..

2009-01-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
http://ham-blog.de/radio-blog/2008/a-home-made-triode/ I'm looking forward to pentodes and pentagrid converters. Or even a beam tetrode. :) "I'm over the moon. This is my over-the-moon face." -- Toby Ziegler ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/li

Re: Twitter user for Brin-L

2009-01-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 19, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Jo Anne > wrote: > >> That's great Nick. Now do you want to say what you're going to do >> so that >> even *I* can understand what it is you're trying to accomplish? Is >> Twitter >> another IM program?

Re: airliner ditches in hudson river

2009-01-15 Thread Bruce Bostwick
There's already a Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549 (initial version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=US_Airways_Flight_1549&oldid=264353468 ) "It's Throw Open Our Doors to People Who Want to Discuss Things That We Could Care Less About Day."

Re: airliner ditches in hudson river

2009-01-15 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 15, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > On 1/15/2009 4:01:48 PM, John Garcia (john...@gmail.com) wrote: >> a US Airways Airbus A320 went down in the Hudson River near the USS >> Intrepid >> after a bird strike >> crippled the engines >> >> http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.c

Re: Metric Conversions

2009-01-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 9, 2009, at 8:47 AM, David Hobby wrote: >> And some of us became accustomed at an early age to integer number >> systems that wrap around from (2^n)-1 to -2^n, for various relatively >> small values of n. :) > > For some values of "early"? I don't think kindergarteners > count "1, 2, 3, -

Re: Metric Conversions

2009-01-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, David Hobby wrote: > Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > ... >>> But I did know there had to be one. I think >>> these are called "affine" transformations. >>> (Linear is x --> ax, and Affine is x --> ax + b.) >> >> y = mx + b is a linear equation. (With slope m and y-intercep

Re: Metric Conversions

2009-01-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > Is that "cunk" or "clink"? > > Looks like "clink" to me. > > http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/davemathew76/megaflicks.jpg > for a > similar situation. > > (Or just go to Google Images and type in, "they should have used a > different font"

Re: Metric Conversions

2009-01-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > http://xkcd.com/526/ > > > xponent > Spit Goes Cunk Maru > rob "Related: I've invented the worst mixed drink ever." -b ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

"Over the counter" nuclear power systems?

2009-01-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
http://www.insidetech.com/news/articles/3455-miniature-nuclear-reactors-to-be-on-sale-within-5-years http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/ > ‘Hyperion, Toshiba, others, race to produce “personal” nuclear > power.’ - > > Using technology licensed from the U.S. government, an Arizona-based > c

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:09 AM, xponentrob wrote: > Most of the electrics are using Lithium Ion batteries and getting > ranges > similar to what you posit here. Indeed, several exceed 140 MPC, > though they > generally are high end and expensive. > Altairnano Technology has batteries that will w

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > Point being, as has been mentioned previously, > there are some parts of the US at least where a > vehicle such as described will not serve the > need, or where one with those limitations might > be enough for some trips but for which at leas

Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> I keep worrying about what a good spew would do >> to this new flat-screen monitor: I'm not sure >> having a spray bottle of Windex™ and a roll of >> paper towels by the screen is the best thing >> anymore . . . or am I being unnecessarily para

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-05 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Dan M wrote: >> The few >> productive industries we have in the USA now (the auto industry >> springing immediately to mind) are in such sad shape -- in the auto >> industry's case, from putting more energy into fighting a phase c >> hange into a PHEV/BEV based market t

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-05 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: >> The few >> productive industries we have in the USA now (the auto industry >> springing immediately to mind) are in such sad shape -- in the auto >> industry's case, from putting more energy into fighting a phase c >> hange into a PHEV/BEV >

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-05 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Probably true, but don't let the Canadians hear you say that .. :D .. "Hey, you, down in the States, take off, eh?! Hoser!" (Bit of a sensitive subject up there, I hear.) On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Dan M wrote: > I know Canada is almost a suburb of the US, with most of the > population livi

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-05 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Dan M wrote: > And yet, you sing we're on the eve of destruction? > > Dan M. I guess part of my cynicism is frustration at having had to live in the wake of the Boomers most of my life, and survive on the scraps they missed, when it seems the only response to my ge

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-05 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Dan M wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l- >> boun...@mccmedia.com] On >> Behalf Of Bruce Bostwick >> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:49 PM >> To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al

Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-04 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 2, 2009, at 8:35 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: >> From the Wall Street Journal: > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html > >> As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of >> U.S. >> In Moscow, Igor Panarin's Forecasts Are All the Rage; America

Re: Incoming!

2008-12-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 23, 2008, at 4:17 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: >> I'm sure there's chaos involved in that somehow. :) > > Why? It sounds like a pretty clear pattern to me, not chaos. Unless the fluid flow is completely laminar (which is extremely rare in nature), there's turbulence involved, w

Re: Why?

2008-12-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
As I understand it, it's not that it carries odors better, it's that your nose is more sensitive to odors carried in moist air. (Mentioning this because I do at one point remember a gas chromatograph attachment with a nose shield connected directly to the column outlet, with a fan to circula

Re: Incoming!

2008-12-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > Speaking of wind, I ran across an odd phenomenon while backpacking in > the Sierra Nevada something close to twenty years ago. The wind > actually came in waves; it would start out at a low velocity and > continue to build over a period of so

Re: Incoming!

2008-12-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > >> My favorite, though, is the suspended fog layer a couple of feet or >> so >> off the ground and only a few inches thick. Those only form when >> there is *no* wi

Re: Incoming!

2008-12-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > And, as long as I'm rambling on about fog... One of the more startling > experiences one can have when landing an airplane is caused by a > thin layer > of ground fog. On approach, you can hardly even see that the fog is > there, > since you

Re: Incoming!

2008-12-20 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> If the forecasts are correct by this time tomorrow I will need to dig >> out the winter gear again . . . though at least the week of >> almost-constant rain will be ending . . . > > And -- according to my local forecast, a cold front is co

Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?)

2008-12-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 19, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Dan M wrote: >> No, by "well-educated" I mean professionals - accountants, lawyers, >> medics etc. > > I thought that was the case, but thanks for the clarification. > >> Cyprus was full of them working bar, waiting, or worse being >> exploited >> in strip clubs. (I

Re: Irregulars questions on DTV conversion

2008-12-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
And while I'm on this thread .. Having experienced both analog and digital broadcast TV, there's one thing about analog that I'm really going to miss. Analog signals are more "readable" under weak signal conditions than digital -- digital has a better quality picture as long as the bitstrea

Re: Irregulars questions on DTV conversion

2008-12-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Speaking of antennas, if you go that route, you may want to replace > any > splitters you have in your cable. I had really lousy signal > strength until > I replaced a splitter, after noticing in the store that new > splitters are > rated u

Re: Irregulars questions on DTV conversion

2008-12-17 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:02 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > (1) Will TV stations still broadcast audio on the same frequency, or > will all those "TV-band radios" that some folks use especially to > pick up the local news, weather, etc., while out and about or during > a power failure become doorsto

Re: It's confirmed: Matter is merely vacuum fluctuations

2008-11-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 29, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > Agree with what you are trying to say. > I think that as a magazine, NS is trying to engage lay folk and other > scientists whose expertise doesn't extend very far into QM. For most > of us > the metaphysics *is* the important aspect of QM. > It h

Re: Who is John W?

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> I am beginning to see a pattern of how you make gross >> simplications to >> try to make the situation fit into your pigeonhole of how >> the >> government can save us by making simple and effective >> regulations to >> control the simple finan

Re: choice...

2008-11-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Dan M wrote: >> The difference can often be one between a realtor who is genuinely >> motivated to act as his/her buyer's agent and negotiate aggressively >> for a good deal for the buyer, and one who is motivated more by a >> desire to get the commission from the sale

Re: choice...

2008-11-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Dan M wrote: > I'm not sure when you bought your house, but I originally bought > mine late > in '92, and was able to obtain a beautiful 3000 sq. ft. house in a > desirable > neighborhood with a mortgage payment of about $850/month. I > followed the > market, in

Re: choice...

2008-11-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Dan M wrote: >> it was not my preference to accept the banks terms. my options were >> limited to signing the loan. or not buying a home. i did what the >> realtor >> said because that is the way the system works. > > Let me jump in here. You know I've been arguin

Re: When Atheists Attack (another in our endless series of cut-n-paste screeds)

2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 5, 2008, at 2:49 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: >> There's a huge difference between atheists, even militant ones, and >> psychos who go around attacking other people on the basis of what >> religion >> the other people subscribe to. > > Sorry Julia, but bullshit. It's precisely the same - at

Re: Happy Halloween

2008-11-01 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 1, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> Given that the first time I heard of Necco wafers was as >> competition . >> 22 rifle targets and only much later that they were in fact edible, >> I've always wondered if more of them have been shot or eaten .. :) >> >> On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:4

Re: Happy Halloween

2008-11-01 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Given that the first time I heard of Necco wafers was as competition . 22 rifle targets and only much later that they were in fact edible, I've always wondered if more of them have been shot or eaten .. :) On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > The only invention in either of the

Re: Happy Halloween

2008-11-01 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 1 Nov 2008, Dave Land wrote: > >> On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: >> >>> As the trick-or-treater came by tonight, I found myself tonight >>> remembering >>> going to the Isaly's house on Halloween and getting Klondike bar

Re: Democracy (was Health Care / The same damn topic all f-ing week!~)

2008-10-31 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 31, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Wayne Eddy wrote: > Has anyone got any suggestions for a better political system? Replace our election system with a lottery, and just draft our leaders? Not sure that wouldn't be better, given the notably dodgy integrity of our current (pre- and post-HAVA) electio

Re: Health Care (the same damn topic all f-ing week!~)

2008-10-31 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: > >> I'm done with this conversation since you ducked my question about >> what >> should replace government regulation. If you want to have a >> convers

Re: Health Care (the same damn topic all f-ing week!~)

2008-10-31 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: > I'm done with this conversation since you ducked my question about > what > should replace government regulation. If you want to have a > conversation about what can/should be used instead of government > regulation, let's do it. Otherwise

Re: Single payer health care

2008-10-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:11 AM, John Williams wrote: >> And it would be a vast improvement over anonymous bean >> counters arbitrarily denying care because it might actually cost >> money. > > A vast increase in costs, definitely. In quality? Probably not. A > large > amount of health spending i

Re: Single payer health care

2008-10-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 29, 2008, at 10:23 AM, John Williams wrote: > Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> At the very least, put actual practicing MD's in charge of the >> medical >> decisions to cover or not cover treatment, and hold them accountable >> for perma

Re: Single payer health care

2008-10-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Ronn! Blankenship < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> No, we have examples here of things where there is no competition or >> they have to take everyone regardless of ability to pay the bill, >> like the ones I

Re: "The Sheep Look Up"

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Dave Land wrote: > About the last sentence, we are in agreement, but I'm not so sure > about > the 90% waste figure, would like to know where it came from, but it > sounds too much like the tripe that the "Howard Jarvis Taxpayers > Association" propaganda spews all o

Re: "The Sheep Look Up"

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Dave Land wrote: > What a kind reply to my (perhaps excessively) testy email. Thank you. > > And honestly, one of the main reasons I did not do so was that I do > not presume to know more than my US Representative (Zoe Lofgren) It is often still worth informing your S

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
t: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:31 AM >> Subject: Re: Redistribute the wealth >> >> >>> Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>> [rationalizations deleted] >>> >>>> and even if I were able to >>>> contrib

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 11:22 AM Tuesday 10/28/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: >> On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote: >> >>>> I don't mind paying taxes >>> >>> Do you voluntarily contribute more than is

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 3:31 PM, John Williams wrote: >> Principle of reciprocity, since you've asserted the same about >> others. > > I'm not sure I followed that. Does that mean that because I implied > that > other people seemed to believe that I was not entitled to an > opinion, that > you a

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 3:13 PM, John Williams wrote: > What would make you think that I don't > believe you are entitled to an opinion? Principle of reciprocity, since you've asserted the same about others. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/br

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:26 PM, John Williams wrote: >> I'm sorry, what exactly makes you think is he doing that? > > When I wrote that I think I have a right not to have my wealth > forcibly > taken from me to pay for what other people want, or anything similar, > he has responded with "straw man"

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:53 PM, John Williams wrote: > As long as you keep pretending that you have the right to tell > other people that their wants and opinions are subordinate to > yours, I'm sorry, what exactly makes you think is he doing that? Seeing a pattern here (you've said this of me i

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Dave Land wrote: > Perhaps I didn't call Congress because I am just so sick and tired of > a system that couldn't possibly care less about what I think that it's > just not worth the effort. For what it's worth, I live in an area "represented" by two very pro- corpo

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: > Andrew Crystall said the following on 10/27/2008 8:40 PM: >> On 27 Oct 2008 at 18:52, Lance A. Brown wrote: >> >>> >>> William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM: Their could be highly efficient and competitive private milit

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:12 PM, John Williams wrote: >> *huge* "if" that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez- >> faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality. Do we >> really need to do this one more time expecting different results, or >> can we agree that there is a n

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote: >> I don't mind paying taxes > > Do you voluntarily contribute more than is required by law? Was going to reply to this earlier but was interrupted by some technical difficulties .. I probably would, actually, if I had more margin between my in

Re: An armed society

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Then again, "an armed society is a polite >>> society" .. >> >>> Bruce, >>> We have found that in general Americans are the politest >>> people we have met. >>> They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have >>> certainly >>> specul

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Let's adopt complex numbers in finance! Maybe in the next crisis > we will be discussing things like "the banks (or whatever) were > negotiating 100 quadrillion i-dollars!" There's got to be a reference to the Mandelbrot set in there somew

Re: Identity, and then sneaking in some geopolitics (Re: New Creationist Ploy)

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 28, 2008, at 1:47 AM, Claes Wallin wrote: > To be sure, China is not the only interesting country in this aspect. > See East and West Germany, Czechia and Slovakia, the former > Yugoslavian > countries, the North and the South in the American Civil War etc. But > China is more interesting

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:12 PM, John Williams wrote: > Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> *huge* "if" that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez- >> faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality. Do we >> really need

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote: >> the financial industry is made up of mature adults who know what >> they're doing so we should trust them and not get in their way > > The financial industry is made up of a bunch of greedy people who > think > they know more than they actuall

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote: >> the Fed can't really even estimate or predict how >> far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend >> even >> years into the future.) > > The Fed can't predict the housing market, the stock market, the CDS > market, or pret

Re: My two rules of politics

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 26, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: > >> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> Well, on my ballot, if I were to not vote for the incumbent in a >>> lot of >>> the state & local races, that left me with a choice between a >>> Democr

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 26, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Bryon Daly wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM, John Williams > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Anecdote seen on the internet: >> >> Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that >> read >> 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. Once in

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:52 PM, John Williams wrote: > Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> We do need need someone to ride in and save us from disaster! > > God will save us, if we have faith. I can think of a segment of the population who are counting on God saving them, who are very likely

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Let's just put an end to ALL redistribution of wealth. > > Let's start with the public schools and hospitals and keep going > with the > hatchet until nobody gets *anything* that they didn't pay for. Toll > booths > on every road and park! > >

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > not so, the public seems to have swallowed >>> the latest redistribution of wealth upwards. >> >>> More like the politicians stuffed it down our throats. >> >> and the sheep accept it, like they

Re: Redistribute the wealth

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > Even the Anchorage paper endorses Obama. > YeahI'd call that interesting > > > xponent > Social Movement Maru > rob Wait until Palin tries to fire the editorial board of the paper. :) ("um .. ma'am, they don't exactly work for you" .. "OK, th

Re: New Creationist Ploy

2008-10-25 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 25, 2008, at 1:25 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/6o9w33 > > > Creationists declare war over the brain > • 22 October 2008 > • From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. > • Amanda Gefter > "YOU cannot overestimate," thundered psyc

Re: Scotch Tape, Black Holes & Supercollider's

2008-10-25 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 24, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Gheeze, who knew (well apparently the Russians 50 years ago). I'm guessing that environmental groups will start petitioning the court to outlaw the use of scotch tape in a vacuum in case it creates a black hole that will instantly swallow the ea

Re: Racial and Gender bigotry

2008-10-24 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > (No, I'm not sure just how to do that. I think giving scholarships to > appropriate colleges based on *zip code* in the US will get around any > race-based restrictions one way or the other but will get more of the > minorities in the door with

Re: Racial and Gender bigotry

2008-10-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >>> I agree with John and all the others who think that >> the best man or woman >>> for the job is the best man or woman for the job! >> If you believe that then you must also believe either >> a) white men are remarkably better at important job

Re: Future of the list / Questions?

2008-10-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: >>> Also, as someone has mentioned, many people prefer having the >>> messages come to them (as on a list like this) rather than them >>> having to remember to look somewhere else for them . . . >> >> Now, this isn't necessarily a problem if yo

Re: Future of the list / Questions?

2008-10-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > One problem is that compared to an e-mail list like this, most of the > "web-based communities" have too rigid a structure, while this is > much like an informal conversation where one person says something > and then someone else responds, e

Re: Racial and sexual balance

2008-10-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 22, 2008, at 2:49 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: >> Choosing someone for a public office >> based on their gender/religion/ethnicity >> first and their qualifications second >> is as offensive to me in the case of >> choosing "a qualified Hispanic >> woman" as it is "a qualified white man". >> (

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > >> On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: >>> >>>> Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Racial and religious bigotry

2008-10-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 04:03 PM Tuesday 10/21/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: >> I might, or might not. Choosing someone for a public office > > > — or any job — > > >> based on >> their gender/religion*/ethnicity first and th

Re: Future of the list / Questions?

2008-10-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 21, 2008, at 4:07 PM, Wayne Eddy wrote: >> I hate to pre-announce... but I'm working on installing a blog >> interface. >> I >> also hope to mirror that blog to another server, as backup. >> >> Nick > > Good idea. > William can do a blog on 'Why Religion is Evil'. > John can do a blog abo

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