On 11/22/2012 4:32 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
It's hard to compete if one has a shred of ethics. This last US Presidential
election astounded me as the Republican bubble was almost impenetrable, and the
constant repeating of lies by the Romney/Ryan campaign far exceeded even my
most cynical
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:
It is in my observation, as a politician, that MOST politicians are liars,
and they tailor their promises
for a target audience who will believe their rhetoric. I am not a liar, but
that is probably why I have
On 23/11/2012, at 7:33 AM, John Horn anar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com
wrote:
It is in my observation, as a politician, that MOST politicians are liars,
and they tailor their promises
for a target audience who will believe
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 Kevin O'Brien zwil...@zwilnik.com wrote:
So at this point I can only conclude that the
Republicans are congenital liars.
You are wearing selective blinders. All politicians are
liars.
But not all are congenital.
Luckily, most voters do not care if the lies
On 12/08/2009, at 9:28 AM, Max Battcher wrote:
Anyway, it's just a crazy thought experiment (that I created for use
in a short story I never wrote) and I doubt that it would be easy to
amend the Constitution to try it, but it might be something to play
with at local or state levels and see
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Max Battcher wrote:
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote:
More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In
effect, he
is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently
illegitimate,
largely because it is run by politicians. By John
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
But I am
not my brother's keeper.
Seems odd that you would would say that, given that when Cain said, Am I my
brother's keeper? he had just murdered his brother to steal his
inheritance.
I thought you were *against
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Nick Arnettnick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com
wrote:
But I am
not my brother's keeper.
Seems odd that you would would say that, given that when Cain said, Am I my
brother's keeper? he had
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
It seems I have led you astray. I thought it was clear from the
context (which you removed above), but I meant that literally. Feel
free to replace it with I do not decide what others may or may not
do.
Ah, so
Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature. It wastes your time and
annoys the pedant.
--Lois Bujold
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature. It wastes your time and
annoys the pedant.
I take it you are opposed to pedantically taking the meaning of literally
literally?
That was fun.
Nick
On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote:
The politician pretends to be acting
altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner.
But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to
the businesses.
John:
These two sentences are the problem with people
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote:
Most of the politicians that I have
personally met are not 'self-serving , rather they are making a great
effort to serve.
And they are good at tricking the naive into thinking that they are
behaving altruistically...
We
You are joking!
On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:22 AM, John Williams wrote:
The politicians have better PR!
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John Williams wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote:
Most of the politicians that I have
personally met are not 'self-serving , rather they are making a great
effort to serve.
And they are good at tricking the naive into thinking that they are
behaving
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Max Battcherm...@worldmaker.net wrote:
What a sad, cynical worldview you live in.
There's alway blissful fantasy to live in. Picture the livers in Nancy
Kress's _Beggars in Spain_ series...although if our politicians were
as honest as her donkeys, I might
Chris Frandsen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote:
The politician pretends to be acting
altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner.
But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to the
businesses.
John:
These two sentences
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote:
More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he
is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate,
largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards
ALL representative democracy
Max Battcher wrote:
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote:
More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he
is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate,
largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards
ALL
is illegitimate precisely because a
representative democracy REQUIRES professional politicians.
Why do you say that is by my standards?
So there questions we want John Williams to answer.
Is that the royal we? Why are you talking about me in the third
person? I'd be glad to discuss the subject with you
a target. In this case you just did the same with politicians. I
agree that they are not taking the action on Cap and trade that I
would like to see.
The question is why? You might even be right that it is because they
have been bought off and this issue is so complex that they feel most
but ban TV and Radio from replaying political material
garnered from open sources.
Too simple? Other suggestions ?
Too difficult to implement, they will find ways around whatever you do.
The solution most likely to work is the simplest: fewer politicians
with less power. The more politicians
is that Wall Street and
others are too _greedy_.
In this case you just did the same with politicians. I
agree that they are not taking the action on Cap and trade that I
would like to see.
The question is why? You might even be right that it is because they
have been bought off
At 06:53 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
No, the problem with _them_ is that they are _all too_
competent (at getting money for themselves). Any number of people
have said (and editorial cartoonists have drawn cartoons
Sorry but the rant against Wall Street and Big Business in general has
never reached the level of the constant drum beat heard everywhere you
turn about lawyers, politicians, school systems and government
bureaucrats, etc. Of course the references to Government
bureaucrats was dialed back
decide to give it to them. But the politicians take
your money by force and THEN give it to the businesses.
The problem is not greed in free markets, it is greed in politics.
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It does not take long for the new set of politicians to start selling
out just like the old set. Cap and trade was supposed to raise
hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue by auctioning off the
emission credits, but now it seems that most will be given away for
free to whoever was best
http://media.nbcchicago.com/documents/rrb+-jh+FINAL+complaint+cover+and+aff.pdf
Some quotes:
With respect to the Senate seat, Deputy Governor A suggested
putting together a list of things that ROD BLAGOJEVICH would accept in
exchange for the Senate seat. ROD BLAGOJEVICH responded that the
http://media.nbcchicago.com/documents/rrb+-jh+FINAL+complaint+cover+and+aff.pdf
Defendants ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, together with others,
offered to, and threatened to withhold from, the Tribune Company
substantial state financial assistance in connection with Wrigley
Field, which
Politicians were clueless as usual. Here are some quotes about Fannie
and Freddie by clueless politicians and regulators. See the article
for more.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122290574391296381.html
House Financial Services Committee hearing, Sept. 10, 2003:
Rep. Barney Frank (D., Mass
Olin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The cynical position that all politicians are bad or untrustworthy is no
more reasonable than any other blanket indictment of a group.
I did not reply to this initially because implying that another person's
opinion is unreasonable is not the type
http://www.danamongden.net/archives/2004/10/town_hall_geek.html
Quote:
I didnt get to see this most recent presidential debate, but I
read an interesting article about it beforehand. Apparently, the
only qualification for these undecided voters was to have told
Gallup
protests way up there on the steps, or at least take a safer
location in the back of the crowd, and get some carbon-based shielding
between you and the source.
I find it very reassuring that the capitol building is radioactive,
and that is where we keep our politicians.
I found
protests way up there on the steps, or at least take a safer
location in the back of the crowd, and get some carbon-based
shielding
between you and the source.
I find it very reassuring that the capitol building is radioactive,
and that is where we keep our politicians.
I found
,
and that is where we keep our politicians.
I found this amusing, and I share it hoping that someone else will, as
well. :)
Only problem is, the Texas Legislature meets only every other year for
a few weeks. The rest of the time, all that lovely radiation is
bothersomely endangering staffers
Dan Minette wrote:
As for South America, my uncle talked a lot about the relatively low
attendance at his parish. I'm guessing slightly more than 1% went to
church. Muy Catolico, pero no fanatico.
That's true here in Rio de Janeiro. About 70% of the population
claims to be Catholic, but of
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, The Fool wrote:
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JDG - Who wonders if he should be proud in some sense that those who
you
use code words for anti-Catholic bigotry aren't immediately driven out
of
the public forum.
What code words? What exactly are
At 10:02 AM 11/13/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, The Fool wrote:
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JDG - Who wonders if he should be proud in some sense that those who
you
use code words for anti-Catholic bigotry aren't immediately driven out
of
the
- Original Message -
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Bishops to punish catholic politicians who disobey Pope
Given that The Fool was trotting out the old codewords for
anti
high when you wrote that. I not anti-catholic,
I'm Anti-Christ. There's a difference. Any politician who obeys the
pope over the constitution is committing high crimes and treason. I'm
still looking for where you explain why telling people that bishops are
going to excommunicate politicians who
is committing high crimes and treason.
I am unaware of the Pope ever giving an order to a politician to disobey
the Constitution.
I'm
still looking for where you explain why telling people that bishops are
going to excommunicate politicians who don't obey is bigoted and
anti-catholic? It's what
Its a good thing Catholics are Jews Fool, or else you might really have
gotten yourself in trouble at the very least you probably wouldn't be
allowed to write football columns any more
Catholics are Jews? Um...since when...?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bishops to punish catholic politicians who disobey Pope
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:34:30 -0500
snip
Any politician who obeys the
pope over
At 06:00 PM 11/13/2003 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bishops to punish catholic politicians who disobey Pope
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:34:30 -0500
snip
At 11:08 AM 11/13/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote:
The news story reported the Catholic bishops discussing the dismantling of
this agreement; with sanctions for Catholic public figures who follow it.
These sanctions can include excommunication from the Catholic church. The
real inaccuracy in the
being
as biased and misleading as you accuse Fox News Channel of being (and I
think you're right on track about Fox News).
Your subject heading says, Bishops to punish catholic politicians But
to quote the first line of the article you posted:
Frustrated that so many Catholic politicians
Jon wrote:
If an edict is passed by the Vatican
Who said anything about the Vatican? The article says bishops of
the United States, not the Vatican or the College of Cardinals or
any other group from anywhere but the good ol' US of A.
and a religious politician obeys that edict rather than uphold
- Original Message -
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Bishops to punish catholic politicians who disobey Pope
Jon wrote:
If an edict is passed by the Vatican
Who said anything about the Vatican
I wrote:
There is a war going on
right now within the Roman Catholic Church between those who think
the reforms of Vatican II went too far or maybe even should be
completely repealed and those who think that the reforms didn't go
far enough.
Dan replied:
That description is probably true if
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
But anyhow, tiredness didn't actually play into my above post. I was
alluding to the fact that two football commentators, Rush Limbaugh and
Gregg Easterbrook, lost their jobs this year under accusations of using
code words for racism and
- Original Message -
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: Bishops to punish catholic politicians who disobey Pope
I wrote:
There is a war going on
right now within the Roman Catholic Church between
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But as I said, I don't think this will go through. There is a war going
on
right now within the Roman Catholic Church between those who think
the reforms of Vatican II went too far or maybe even should be
completely
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/7232708.htm
Catholic pols scrutinized by bishops
Mull possible sanctions for anti-church stands
By MICHAEL PAULSON
Boston Globe
WASHINGTON - Frustrated that so many Catholic politicians support
abortion rights, the bishops of the United States said
At 12:28 PM 11/12/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
WASHINGTON - Frustrated that so many Catholic politicians support
abortion rights, the bishops of the United States said yesterday they
will begin evaluating whether they can impose sanctions against elected
officials who vote contrary to church
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 12:28 PM 11/12/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote:
WASHINGTON - Frustrated that so many Catholic politicians support
abortion rights, the bishops of the United States said yesterday they
will begin evaluating whether they can impose sanctions against
At 11:29 PM 11/12/03 -0600, The Fool wrote to John D. Giorgis:
Are you drunk or high?
Are you?
-- Ronn! :)
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Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 01:52 PM 1/17/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food,
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 01:52 PM 1/17/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their
At 17:57 30-01-2003 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote:
So the only known treatment for someone suffering from chocolate addiction
is to promptly administer a massive dose of chocolate. (Feel free to show
this prescription to Jeroen and tell him you need it filled immediately.)
Unfortunately,
Deborah Harrell wrote:
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
if the person returned
Russell Chapman wrote:
What's new is the smart card children use to buy this stuff. Parents
have the option to allow/disallow various foods by item or category, or
allow weekly quotas of specific foods/categories. Because parents aren't
giving the children cash to buy their lunch (as I
At 01:52 PM 1/17/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a
--- Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever;
but after a specified time (to be
On 22 Dec 2002 at 23:45, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 12:51 AM 12/18/02 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
AFAIK, Homosexuality and Low/High IQ's are not recognized in the
medical community as diseases.
True. I threw those in for discussion since _some_ people have
treated them as diseases either
Andy said:
(And a certain short storyAsimov? If any of you are still white,
we can cure you)
Arthur C. Clarke, Reunion.
Rich
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At 07:42 PM 12/17/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
In preface, I think you took my 'Evil Overlady'
without her smileys... :)
And I hope you noticed the line at the bottom of my post:
Taking The Contrarian POV Maru
;-)
--- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Deborah Harrell
At 12:51 AM 12/18/02 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
--- Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
OTOH, where *does* one¹ hold the line on health
costs?
_
¹Be that one the government, an HMO, a private
insurer, or the individual.
If a young person tests positive for
Huntingdon's disease, do we
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Okay, so we outlaw alcohol, tobacco, and all other recreational drugs
(including coffee and tea?), as well as unhealthy/excessive food.
The problem is, all of the things you list above except the tobacco and
unhealthy food have been shown to have some health benefits
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't involve
addiction either).
Chewing on the leaves of the plant that ridiculous westerners distill
into cocaine helps the
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How much do people care about health? (Was:
dorepublicans/politicians care...)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:03:11 -0600
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 05:45 PM 12/16/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 -- Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by
- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote]
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a specified time (to be
At 03:31 PM 12/17/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to
And ask the Angosians about tinkering with their
soldiers neuropsych' profiles! (Next Gen episode: the
surviving veterans were permanently quarantined
because of their aggression.) As Evil Overlady (the
government) I would not make such a foolishly
dangerous mistake. ;)
Okay, if we're talking
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Most unhealthy foods are not unhealthy unless consumed in excessive
amounts and/or to the exclusion of other foods, leading to an
unbalanced diet. Who will be the food police to check out the
contents of everyone's cabinets and refrigerator? Or will there be
In preface, I think you took my 'Evil Overlady'
without her smileys... :)
--- Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
- Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
OTOH, where *does* one¹ hold the line on health
costs?
_
¹Be that one the government, an HMO, a private
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote]
And ask the Angosians about tinkering with their
soldiers neuropsych' profiles! (Next Gen episode:
the surviving veterans were permanently quarantined
because of their aggression.) As Evil Overlady
(the government) I would not make such a
At 12:45 PM 12/18/02 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
What's new is the smart card children use to buy this stuff. Parents have
the option to allow/disallow various foods by item or category, or allow
weekly quotas of specific foods/categories. Because parents aren't giving
the children cash to
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How much do people care about their own health? (Was:
dorepublicans/politicians care...)
In preface, I think you took my 'Evil Overlady
I do not believe that technology strongly influences moral norms.
Psychiatrists and psychologists did not de-medicalize homosexuality or
inversion until the 1970's (I think).
If we could have played with our genes in 1950 or 1900 we would have targeted
the disease of sexual inversion. Many
At 05:45 PM 12/16/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs doctors can
Alberto wrote:
Politics is crazy
But it sure makes life interesting, no?
Reggie Bautista
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