ble for the PB80. Assuming a normal
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e supported, though - Bluetooth for a BrailleNote isn't
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>touch Android service with Talkback or other screen reader is not easy.
It's actually fairly easy. The reason that brltty and TalkBack cooperate so
nicely is because they both set and react to changes to the Accessibility Focus
property mentioned above.
possibly be an actual braille device.
This is actually an improvement for all platforms since the fix is in portable
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mportant for
our code, as much as possible, to represent the right way to be doing things.
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If that's the problem then there's a new way to do that without opening the
device. I'd like to be sure it's the problem, though, before making that
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Doesn't line 380 of configure.ac already do it?
LDFLAGS_DYNAMIC="${LDFLAGS} BRLTTY_OPTIONS_LD2CC([${LDFLAGS_DYNAMIC}])"
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so that I can have a look at it? This is usually done by installing the Android
SDK and using the adb command. There are notes on how to do this within
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compatibility) in a different place. You need to do it like this:
BRL_CMD_BLK(PASSCHAR) | BRL_ARG_SET(character)
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Yes, that's a problem. It's been fixed in the latest apk. Go to brltty.com,
then to Download, and then to Android. In that section, you'll find a download
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>but then I can't use 8 dot braille anymore, am I right?
Brltty's support for contracted braille indeed does allow for the full use of
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d memory size and other
>useful information.
Thank you. I hadn't noticed that option, and shall look for and enable it.
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>Here is procedure to reproduce The USB Braille device issue on Brltty
Do you know how to capture a log that covers the time of the failure?
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>May be, that The reason of my issue is caused by The fact, that I have chosen
>autodetect instead of choosing Voyager device in Brltty configurator.
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he code is the same.
Are you observing that the keys on the braille device have no effect at all?
Or, maybe you're saying that the keys on the braille device seem to be only
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eferences menu for Dot Firmness. Please let me know how it works. If you can
configure it the way you need then don't forget to save your prefernce changes.
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g it. Trying something just
because is, for me, not a good enough reason. At the very least, if I don't
know why I'm trying it then I can't possibly know if it actually succeeded.
>Indeed I am getting braille output sooner now.
Are you saying that you have 5.6 running now?
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the execstart line.
That doesn't matter since you removed it. I was trying to suggest an approach
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e time. The protocol is the same so the 80 will work.
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The second part (exec /sbin/brltty) is what you're looking for. Change it to
point to the desired place. Then remember to do systemctl daemon-reload and
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that you've made a change by running systemctl daemon-reaload. Then
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Exactly. That means 5.6 can't get the device because 5.3.1 has it.
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t haven't been able to test
USB access with it yet as I still need to get an OTG USB-C cable.
>Brltty for Android work perfectly and this is my biggest problem, but
>it is very probably Android problem.
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usb as a device.
You specified usb but it needs to be usb: (i.e. you need to add a colon at the
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e's a usable ssh app out there, but I haven't found one yet. I've been
thinking of writing one but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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>Trying this braille display, I saw mistakes in the key bindings
>documentation.
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it'd need to be an unbranded picture. I'm not asking
for you to draw it :-) just to perhaps search for one that we can legally use.
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ke install all go well, but when I start 5.6 as root
>I hale no braille.
Please give the exact list of commands tat you use, including how you try to
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, wanting to
experiment with, etc. That's one reason that, above, I suggested ensuring that
you (with his permission, of course) can access his computer, through his
router, from your home. Then, as his needs evolve, you'll be able to offer him
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g because some packages aren't installed on your
system. There's no problem if you don't mind the missing functionality. In each
case, installing the needed packages will resolve the warning and include the
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that the maximum possible setting is 15.
If there are ideas regarding a better way to present these values, please do
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rder to be able to access all that it needs to for full
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, you need
to use the run-brltty wrapper script that's in the top-level directory of the
build tree.
It doesn't mater which user you are when building, and even when installing,
brltty. What matters is that you run it as root.
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fix=/usr/local/brltty-5.6
make --silent
make --silent install
# To run it, use: /usr/local/brltty-5.6/bin/brltty
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>action to quickly switch the "Release Braille Device" option. See
>https://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Notification.Builder.html#addAction(android.app.Notification.Action)
I do know about the actions, but hadn't yet thought about what they might be.
Yours is a good sugge
ditional purchase. If it doesn't work then, perhaps, you
could suggest that they lend us one so that we can directly work on adding
support for it.
I know a person who may be able to give a better answer so I'll also ask her
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tories. I wouldn't
assume that any table diredtly in /etc/brltty/ is usable.
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you've turned Bluetooth off. This, of course, only actually matters when adding
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>u2.
Again, we need to know exactly what you did.
>Sooo I did make uninstall then apt-got brltty again.
>Yikes, now is says " no key bindings " and my braille keys have no effect.
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st to me, consistency is worth
something. Maybe, if it's in high enough demand, a configure option, e.g.
--with-regex-package, could be implemented to choose something else. Maybe we
could include lots of them and have a selector within the menu to choose which
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prompt based on the prompt you're currrently on.
>Maybe not. That could be extended eventually if need be. For example:
>
>prompt_match = || # that's a direct match
>
>prompt_match = ||| # that's the ultimate match
>
>No
t;Indeed. But like the initial proposer suggested, the content from all
>backref substitutions would have to be filtered so regexp special
>characters are turned into literals..
I missed that one. In any case, I don't think that the comlexity of creating a
dynamic regular expr
her just say
that no pattern means current behaviour.
Also, there's a subtle problem with your proposal. Let's say that the first
word on the current line contains a character that's meaningful to a regular
expression. It'd get substituted into the replacement, which would t
se real trouble to the unfortunate
>user given that the display and basic navigation functions are still
>available.
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fault value) and CLIP_PATTERN
>(which would copy the pattern to clipboarrd for pasting and editing it).
this, to me, is an entirely separate feature. It should be implemented on top
of, rather than embedded within, however the first one is implemented.
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ich would be regexp-based?
Sure. It could even be used to specify which type of regular expression (basic,
extened, advanced, ...) to use.
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ure if the default preserves
>existing functionality for those who don't care about the extra
>flexibility.
I'm not opposed to the concept at all - just pushing for ideas to try to keep
it as easy to use as possible.
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n irb, GHCi, DOSEMU, Debian chroots
>(with their default PS1 settings), etc. would really make my life easier. And
>these are quite common applications.
I completely understand your reason and the convenience. I'm just not convinced
that it'd actually work all that well as a gener
d the complexities and pitfalls of
regular expressons in order to benefit from the PR/NXPROMPT functionality?
Additionally, do we really want to make it extremely difficult, if not entirely
impossible, for an average brltty user to benefit from PR/NXPROMPT
functionality within more
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>The list in the manual is quite out-of-date. The full list is in the derived
>header "cmds.auto.h" (cd into Programs/ and make it). Perhaps there should be
>a
>tool that creates a document from it.
Building
n the derived
header "cmds.auto.h" (cd into Programs/ and make it). Perhaps there should be a
tool that creates a document from it.
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/inc
It's not my practice to make unverifiable code changes.
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nging anything so that I can
test my work.
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).
They really did used to be triple action keys. On older models you just had to
press the center of what was an actual rocker.
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leave alo.ktb alone and just change
>rockers.kti, would the include path be updated only for this file or do I need
>to copy all the included files?
Just make a copy of the file you'd like to modify.
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't need tcl.
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