I'm tired of writing form input validation routines over and over again.
Using CFINPUT and its validation options work great for the front end, but
it's still a pain to write input validation on the server-side, and the
rules between the two can get out of sync, and the built-in validation rules
...@gravityfree.com]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:55 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: For consideration...
I'm tired of writing form input validation routines over and over again.
Using CFINPUT and its validation options work great for the front end, but
it's still a pain to write input validation on the server-side
I haven't tried these but they may be what you are looking for
http://www.validatethis.org/
http://www.validatethis.org/http://thor.riaforge.org/
http://thor.riaforge.org/
2009/12/12 Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com
I'm tired of writing form input validation routines over and over
I like it in principle but what is your idea of ajax based
server side validation... Server side validation needs to
It would use JavaScript to push the form data to a validation routine on the
server before the form is posted to give the user a better experience as a
preferred method. If
The app can do both. The idea is to write one set of server-side
validation routines in CF. The app then uses AJAX to check fields as
the used fills them out, for the benefit of the user; it also checks
them server side on submission to ensure data integrity and prevent
circumvention of the
I haven't tried these but they may be what you are looking for
http://www.validatethis.org/
That looks very promising and similar to what I had in mind. I certainly
don't want to reinvent the wheel if this does what it appears to say it
does. I'll check it out over the weekend and post back.
[mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:35 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: For consideration...
The app can do both. The idea is to write one set of server-side validation
routines in CF. The app then uses AJAX to check fields as the used fills
them out, for the benefit
Well, as I just explained to Kiley, off-list, I might be the one who
understood my teachings wrong. I've been known to do that. :)
I think that's the clean way to do it anyway. Linking tables are fun! :)
Will
~|
Discover
: database table design consideration
I'm pretty sure that is what I meant with my bridge design. I, like you,
think that's my only choice in this situation. I just hate having to deal
with the two extra tables. This app was very lean and mean, and this just
makes it harder to maintain, IMO.
I
Subject: Re: database table design consideration
--snip--
I was always taught to avoid bridge (or cross ref) tables, because it
usually meant that you designed your data structure poorly. I
understand that it's unavoidable in some cases, I was hoping that wasn't
the case here.
---snip
]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: database table design consideration
--snip--
I was always taught to avoid bridge (or cross ref) tables, because it
usually meant that you designed your data structure poorly. I
understand that it's unavoidable in some
tables. How else do you design a
many-to-many relationship?
-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: database table design consideration
--snip--
I was always taught to avoid bridge (or cross ref
So - I have a real estate listings table, and my client wants to add a
property type field to each listing, such as golf home, ski home,
village home, mountain condo etc to each of the listings. This
field will then be used in a quick search set of links that will be
clickable on each page as
Can you have the following tables
PROPERTY
PROP_ID
PROP_NAME
PROPERTY_TYPES
PROPERTY_TYPE_ID
PROPERTY_TYPE_NAME
PROP_TYPE_XREF - This just has the unique id's from the 2 above tables.
PROP_ID
PROPERTY_TYPE_ID
with this you can have unlimited property types per property.
At
I'm pretty sure that is what I meant with my bridge design. I, like
you, think that's my only choice in this situation. I just hate having
to deal with the two extra tables. This app was very lean and mean, and
this just makes it harder to maintain, IMO.
I was always taught to avoid bridge
i think that'd still be considered a clean design to accomplish what
you want.
if a property record can share more than one property_type, that's the
way to do it (IMHO).
On 12/7/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm pretty sure that is what I meant with my bridge design. I, like
you,
I was always taught to avoid bridge (or cross ref) tables,
because it usually meant that you designed your data structure
poorly. I understand that it's unavoidable in some cases, I was
hoping that wasn't the case here.
That's just crazy talk. You should use intersection tables whenever
Well, as I just explained to Kiley, off-list, I might be the one who
understood my teachings wrong. I've been known to do that. :)
I'll continue on with the bridge, intersection, cross-ref, whatever
you'd call it.
Thanks for the help all!
Ray
Dave Watts wrote:
I was always taught to avoid
.
Basically, this (should?) mean that not all issues reported to us are
on this list. These are the ones that have been chosen for
consideration in an upcoming updater release. There may be issues
included in the updater that aren't listed here. Most importantly,
there are other known issues
Subject: Re: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater
re leas e
Vern
Here's hoping that the next updater (and future updaters) will also
work on the port to Mac OS X -- so we don't have to reinstall Linux.
Damon Cooper and Brent Baker, of the Macromedia CF RD team, put
Neil
I hope MM is looking at a Mac OS X version of CFMX -- at least for
developers.
I have been told that there isn't a large enough population of Mac OS X
servers to build a business case for releasing a supported production
version.
That said, Sybase and Oracle have released their latest
Dick Applebaum wrote:
That said, Sybase and Oracle have released their latest db servers to
run on Mac OS X, and IBM is conducting a survey to see if there is
enough demand to warrant a DB/2 product for Mac OS X.
So, Sybase, Oracle, and maybe IBM see an opportunity to make money on
the Mac
TechNote 23464 provides a summary of some of the known issues with Macromedia
ColdFusion MX. Fixes for these issues are currently being investigated for potential
inclusion in an upcoming release of the ColdFusion MX Updater. Inclusion or exclusion
in this list does not guarantee inclusion or
22, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater releas e
TechNote 23464 provides a summary of some of the known issues with
Macromedia ColdFusion MX. Fixes for these issues are currently being
investigated for potential inclusion in an upcoming release
for consideration in an upcoming updater
release. There may be issues included in the updater that aren't listed here. Most
importantly, there are other known issues, and we know that many of those issues are
very important to the community. Hopefully, issues that didn't make it onto this list
Vernon Viehe wrote:
TechNote 23464 provides a summary of some of the known issues with Macromedia
ColdFusion MX. Fixes for these issues are currently being investigated for potential
inclusion in an upcoming release of the ColdFusion MX Updater. Inclusion or exclusion
in this list does not
not guarantee inclusion or exclusion from future releases of
the ColdFusion MX Updater.
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Houwing [mailto:j.houwing;student.utwente.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater
* Coldfusion won't run on JRockit 7.0 (Java 1.4) by BEA which is much
faster on x86. The 1.3 version works fine.
Personally, I don't think it's fair to have macromedia support both BEA
JRocket and Sun's JRE. Who knows what BEA is smoking and from the quality
of their products I've dealt in
Rob Rohan wrote:
Ok, I have got to jump in here. He said they are the ones they are *looking
at right now*. If you have 4 developers and all of them are looking at
issues - you can't look at more. He said they know there are more, but these
are the ones they are *looking at right now*.
If
Does MM have plans to support Oracle 9i AS?
Joe
-Original Message-
From: Todd [mailto:todd;web-rat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater
release
* Coldfusion won't run on JRockit 7.0 (Java
I know that's been raised here, and it's under consideration, but I don't have any
information on that yet, sorry. When/if I do...I'll let everyone know.
Thanks,
Vernon Viehe
ColdFusion Community Manager
Macromedia, Inc.
--
Macromedia Certified Professional
CF blog
Thank you! Nice to know what is going on.
However...did anyone see this?
Bug 48462: ColdFusion MX URLEncodes special characters in the name
attribute of name=value pairs.
Could someone clarify what this pertains to?
--
jon
mailto:jonhall;ozline.net
Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 2:09:34 PM, you
Subject: RE: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater re lease
| I know that's been raised here, and it's under consideration, but I don't have any
|information on
that yet, sorry. When/if I do...I'll let everyone know.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Vernon Viehe
| ColdFusion Community Manager
.
--
Macromedia Certified Professional
CF blog at http://vvmx.blogspot.com
-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:doug;dwhite.ws]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater
re lease
I hope
Does MM have plans to support Oracle 9i AS?
I suspect they will, although I certainly can't speak for them. The latest
version of the DataDirect Connect for JDBC drivers, 3.1, supports Oracle 9i.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202)
Tomcat? etc.
etc.
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:23:27 -0400
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater
re lease
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does MM have plans to support Oracle 9i AS?
I suspect they will, although I certainly can't speak
On Tuesday, Oct 22, 2002, at 18:21 US/Pacific, Doug wrote:
I hope it is because that is the database of choice for the Dept of
Defense now, replacing Sybase, and MSSQL. By MM failing to support
it, will be curtains for ColdFusion with the DoD (Includes the
military services.)
There's
: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
It's an assumption on my part, looks like everyone else thinks
differently.
I guess there could be a few people out there running NS 4.7 on a 75mhz
computer, not worrying about upgrading anything because it does what
they need
hi, i dont like the argument used my some people that if netscape has 5% of
the market, and your site doesnt work for them you will have a 5% drop in
sales. That assumes that 100% of people that go to your site are buying -
so you would be getting 95% sale rate which is pretty great!
i hear
: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Hi Howard.
The CSS issue was one of the main reasons that I started this post. I was
working on a site and implemented some design elements using styles that
really enhanced the appearance of the site. I actually did test it out
as a result?
Who cares. Everybody is happy. Life is good. Life is simple again.
Jim
- Original Message -
From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Nick,
Great
DDB Lists wrote:
Last time I set up an html mail (2 weeks ago), I had to redo it because
people couldn't read it using their NS 4.5 mail client. Go figure.
I usually store HTML mail in /dev/null. Go figure ;)
Jochem
__
Why
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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape
users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and
IE's
still a consideration?
Message-ID: 019b01c1b9c0$b18928a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape
users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and
IE's
continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying
Yes, I understand the argument is flawed, but the root idea is sound.
You can't place barriers to usability without paying some sort of
penalty. Mike Alberts post is right on with this, imho.
--Matt--
From: list peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
hi, i dont like the argument used my some
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the
same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56
for
nobody.
- Matt Small
-Original Message-
From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
We get the same thing from our WebTV users... also a small, but vocal
percentage.
I've also
]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I just had to get in on this one ...
While there really isn't much debating that the browser war is over (which
is as much Netscape's fault for releasing junk
Message-
From: Mike Alberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I just had to get in on this one ...
While there really isn't much debating that the browser war is over
(which
Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape
users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados
I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have to
maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written using
layers and HEAVY on javascript. When Netscape 6 was loaded on many of the new
machines, the sites stopped working. I visited many
: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have
to
maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written
using
layers and HEAVY on javascript. When Netscape 6 was loaded on many of the
new
machines
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
You are opening a can of worms here I believe, but Netscape has no problem
with Javascript. Especially since Netscape invented Javascript, I imagine
they can do
Most of the time it's not up to the developer anyways. We go by what
the client wants on their site.
If they say they want a flash intro, so be it.
Anyways, I couldn't imagine a web without pictures and flash and dhtml,
it would be like a magazine with nothing but text inside.
It sounds
a consideration?
The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the
same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56.
My biggest problem isn't NS users, it's WebTV users. Currently, we only
get
about 1.5 percent WebTV, but I get complaints from them all
For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape
users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's
continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about
whether my sites work with Netscape.
Since this has been one of my
and not cost
effective (there's little return on the investment and it impacts our bottom
line).
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
For the longest
: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape
users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and
IE's
continued growth, I've been wondering if I
Here's my .02 cents
I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above but
I'm not ready to declare Netscape 4.75 dead. I think there's still about 10
percent of the internet users that are using Netscape 4.75. Netscape 6.0 is
coming along real nicely and I've seen
I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but in my opinion, I would
continue to code for Netscape, and also consider Opera too. If everyone
gives up coding for the other browsers, then it's game over, MS will
not only own your personal machines, but the internet too!The other
option of
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Here's my .02 cents
I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above
but
I'm
We have seen a dramtic increase in Netscape users over the last few months,
(with over 2million uniques per month) ..our numbers have jumped from 3-4%
to over 15% ... I would keep the coding going for Netscape!
Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector - Commerce
The majority of the people who do run NS (the fans) would certainly
of upgraded to the latest version, which is pretty W3C compliant.
Is this a fact or an assumption? :)
I would tend to guess just the opposite based on my own experience and from
the stats I've seen in the past. It has been
11:06 PM
Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but in my opinion, I would
continue to code for Netscape, and also consider Opera too. If everyone
gives up coding for the other browsers, then it's game over, MS
Watch your logs.. ( Or the logs of the site you are developing for,
rather ) . That is the biggest tell-tale sign as to what you should be
developing for ( or not ).
The server administrator of one site I developed, a long time ago, told
me that on weekdays, 98% of the hits were from
://www.atnetsolutions.com
-Original Message-
From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
The majority of the people who do run NS (the fans) would certainly
of upgraded
they need.
__
steve oliver
atnet solutions, inc.
http://www.atnetsolutions.com
-Original Message-
From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration
I guess there could be a few people out there running NS 4.7 on a 75mhz
Keep in mind that some IT departments build an image and only update the
browser when the user absolutely demands it or requires it for a project
thay work on. In one of my cases, NS is the primary mail client so asking
I would most definitely continue to develop for Netscape 4.x browsers. I
feel that it is very short-sighted to make any assumptions about what your
users are viewing your web site with unless you run some extensive logging
that captures browser info (i.e., BrowserHawk, etc.) and do some analysis.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
The majority of the people who do run NS (the fans) would certainly
of upgraded to the latest version, which is pretty W3C compliant.
Is this a fact
: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The
average age of Rver's is in their early 60's. Believe
: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the
same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56.
My biggest problem isn't NS users, it's WebTV users. Currently
Subject: Re: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I would most definitely continue to develop for Netscape 4.x browsers. I
feel that it is very short-sighted to make any assumptions about what
your
users are viewing your web site with unless you run some extensive logging
that captures
I am one of those hard core Netscape users.
Really I use it because I don't trust the security of IE/Outlook. I still
use Netscape and Eudora for that reason. The threat of the next big hole
that MS has not yet released a patch for, and me going to some obscure
website that somebody from
Even if the percentage of users for all wacko browsers is just ... say
.. 5%. Are you willing to take a 5% drop in sales for an unknown
duration? Like others I not only still see NN3 users... I'm still
seeing AOL 3 on a site where about 10% of users are on AO-Hell - the
typical site demographic
I use NN 4.78, NN 6.2, IE6 and IE5. I can run both NN's and IE6 on my
regular dev server, and keep IE5 on my win2k laptop. Its tough to go
back to IE 4 simply because of how MS handles browser upgrades.
Its not just your visitors you have to please, and it ain't just
Netscape:
I just ran into
Mark,
I assume the OS would be windows advanced server?
Why advanced?
Michael.
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:11:10 +0200
From: Michael Lugassy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hardware Consideration
Message-ID: 000e01c13ea8$adc3c240$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This may seem a bit OT, but if any pro. can help
Web Development, EDS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Hardware Consideration
Mark,
I assume the OS would be windows advanced server?
Why advanced?
Michael.
Date
This may seem a bit OT, but if any pro. can help me out here, I'll be glad
to hear all tips and pointers.
I'm intrested in buying a 1U server to host our full-text/SQL/coldfusion IIS
website.
The server mostly run SQL Full-text queries, (10-20 million text rows)
Also, there some Coldfusion
Are you looking for a database Server ( SQL Server? Oracle?) or a
ColdFusion server, or a machine that can handle both at once?
It is usually recommended that you try to separate your database server
from your Application Server.
At 02:11 PM 09/16/2001 +0200, you wrote:
This may seem a bit
Jeffry,
Are you looking for a database Server ( SQL Server? Oracle?) or a
ColdFusion server, or a machine that can handle both at once?
It is usually recommended that you try to separate your database server
from your Application Server.
Something that can handle both at once (SQL and
I got some good hardware from this guy, but it doesn't look like he's
going to be selling any longer:
http://www.dark-wave.net/index.html
This may seem a bit OT, but if any pro. can help me out here, I'll be glad
to hear all tips and pointers.
I'm intrested in buying a 1U server to host our
Design, LLC
www.smalldogdesign.com
Home of MN Vikings Fans Worldwide!
www.purplepride.org
-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Hardware Consideration
This may seem a bit OT, but if any pro. can help
Anandtech's IT pages are a great source for midrange server articles.
Mostly they talk about their own web server farm, and what they have
gone through. He also runs SQL Server and ColdFusion
http://www.anandtech.com/it/index.html
jon
Michael Lugassy wrote:
This may seem a bit OT, but if
I'm intrested in buying a 1U server to host our full-text/SQL/
coldfusion IIS website.
The server mostly run SQL Full-text queries, (10-20 million text
rows) Also, there some Coldfusion scripts that consumes some
resources for calucluation, generating and querying. Further more,
the
the
lines of a p4 850, 256mb with a 40gig drive. Cheap 50$ video card and no
soundcard.
That shouldn't be too much and go for SCSI too.
I assume the OS would be windows advanced server?
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:11:10 +0200
From: Michael Lugassy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hardware Consideration
Nevermind :)
FOund what I was looking for.
Sean
-Original Message-
From: Sean German [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:45 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: in consideration of large arrays?
Howdy fusioneers,
I know theoretically the size of an array
Howdy fusioneers,
I know theoretically the size of an array is limited by the available
memory, but what other considerations need to be made when working with
large arrays?
I have a template that works with an array of about 6000 elements. No
matter for how long I set the time out, the dern
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