Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread OldSteveH via CnC-List
Interesting thread this one. My oldest son loves sailing but my youngest son (20) can't stand the heeling. My wife of 1+ years has taken to it just fine and has been my helmslady for fall racing going on 3 years now. When I am taking novice guests out, it has sometimes helped to put in a reef even

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread Chris Price via CnC-List
Chuck S via CnC-List" To: "Us" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:44:13 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl. Hiring a coach or taking a course

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
et me hire a coach. I guess I'll run our boat > like a trawler when she's aboard, and save the sailing for when she's not > there. I'm gonna order that tow toy. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > ---

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
; I'm gonna order that tow toy. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > To: "Gary Nylander" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:44:0

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread Ed Dooley via CnC-List
rd the boat. Sounds like you >> have a good system worked out >> >> Mike >> Persistence >> (as usual not a C&C) >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S >> via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, S

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S > via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:44 PM > To: Us; CNC boat owners, cnc-list > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans > > Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but n

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-24 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
4 PM To: Us; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl. Hiring a coach or taking a course won't change the fact that she doesn't like that sailboats lean when powered

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-23 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Gary Nylander" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:44:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-23 Thread Us via CnC-List
hey have a school in Annapolis, but hold classes in the > Caribbean. > > A friend went - loved it. > > Gary > - Original Message - > From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List > To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard > Sent: Tuesday, Septemb

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-23 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans Dennis / others, Do you have any recommendations for such a course, preferably somewhere warm and with some considerable learning opportunities (moving from very competent crew to command / self-sufficiency, not b

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-23 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Dennis / others, Do you have any recommendations for such a course, preferably somewhere warm and with some considerable learning opportunities (moving from very competent crew to command / self-sufficiency, not basics)? Bev / other female listers, I'd be interested in your opinions too. Than

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans I heard of a boat named "Ruthless". The guy's wife's name was Ruth. Then there was the famous race boat, "FUJIMO". IIRC it stands for &qu

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
I agree with Dennis, I sent my wife through the Womanship Sailing program in 1982. She spent a week in the USVI with 7 other women. Returned with a boat load of enthusiasm and has not lost her love for sailing. She on to successfully campaign her J-24 all over the Southeastern USA as well as sailed

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Don't just send your lady to sailing lessons. Send her to a week long ladies only sailing class. It's a LOT different than taking lessons with a coed group. She will not just get sailing lessons, she will get emotional support, counselling, share experiences with other women, etc. Chances are i

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans I'll let you guys know how the lessons

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Francois: The only other suggestion is to make something on the boat “hers”, something she will ultimately know better than you. In my wife’s case, its handling under power. It could be anything. Another thing you can try is having a “goal”, something that can only be accomplished by the two

Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I'll let you guys know how the lessons help.. Racing did not help, she clammed-up even worse for fear that she'd screw something up. Even if on that particular race, everything that could be screwed-up was already taken care of so no one really cared. No amount of screwing-up was going to make

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread dwight via CnC-List
To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans I've been lucky. My first admiral was gung-ho for almost anything thrilling, so sailing on the windows was not a problem. We used to take our Coronado 15 dinghy out into the

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
chair telling me what to do. You crank me up the mast!” Jack Brennan Former C&C 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 1:53 PM To: Indigo ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
it out when the > wind was over 15, so it would move. Now, she doesn't like it when the rail > is not close to the waves. > > As I said, I'm lucky. > > Gary > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > *To:* cnc-list@cn

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
hy from a few years back). >> >> Current admiral was raised by a father with an old Alden 46 yawl. After many >> summers spent sanding and varnishing, he would take it out when the wind was >> over 15, so it would move. Now, she doesn't like it when the rail is not

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
cois J Rivard via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:41 AM > Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans > > I'm in the same boat (Pun intended) > > The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
o: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans I'm in the same boat (Pun intended) The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang out on the rail when the wind pipes up. No

Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended) The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang out on the rail when the wind pipes up. No matter how much I tell my wife that the lake winds and little chop are not even close to being a challenge for a boat that was meant for offshore

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-21 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Chuck S via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:15 AM To: David Donnelly; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans David, Well said. I am learning late in life

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List
I have been trying to get my wife to take a competent crew course with the same instructor I had. She is reluctant to take the helm but will handle sheets. She does help with docking when she is aboard too. A couple of weeks ago we had a good blow for us with winds steady around 18kts and gusti

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Maybe you're luckier than you think. One of the first times Deborah and I sailed together I was down at the navstation figuring out "nav" stuff. Deborah was steering and, in a calm, gentle voice from the helm, asked "should the toe rail be under water?" I shoulda known I was in trouble right the

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Ditto all the other comments. For my wife, it was lessons with a captain to learn docking skills (she almost always docks now), working the main during races, and most importantly, a "friend" who made fun of her one day. It wasn't so funny at the time but certainly motivated her. 20 years and

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a smaller, but stable boat. Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 (18ft keelboats) transformed my Admiral. -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: >

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Joanne Dowd via CnC-List
I completely agree with Joel. I am one of those wives who doesn't like a lot off boat heel. I recognize that it is completely illogical and I do try to push myself. I have found that when the wind picks up I do much much better when I am on the helm- that way I can pinch when I feel uncomfortabl

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. FWIW, When I taug

Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
David, Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes m