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Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl.
Hiring a coach or taking a course won't change the fact that she doesn't like
that sailboats lean when powered up. She's just
: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:44 PM
To: Us; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl.
Hiring a coach or taking a course won't change the fact that she doesn't like
that sailboats lean
, 2014 11:44 PM
To: Us; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl.
Hiring a coach or taking a course won't change the fact that she doesn't
like that sailboats lean when powered up
owners, cnc-list
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:44:09 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Ok, here's a response from a woman.
I married into sailing. Started with a small boat, took trips to New England
and the Caribbean
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Ok, here's a response from
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:44:13 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl.
Hiring a coach or taking
Interesting thread this one.
My oldest son loves sailing but my youngest son (20) can't stand the
heeling.
My wife of 1+ years has taken to it just fine and has been my helmslady for
fall racing going on 3 years now.
When I am taking novice guests out, it has sometimes helped to put in a reef
Dennis / others,
Do you have any recommendations for such a course, preferably somewhere warm
and with some considerable learning opportunities (moving from very competent
crew to command / self-sufficiency, not basics)? Bev / other female listers,
I'd be interested in your opinions too.
PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Dennis / others,
Do you have any recommendations for such a course, preferably somewhere warm
and with some considerable learning opportunities (moving from very competent
crew to command / self-sufficiency, not basics
in Annapolis, but hold classes in the
Caribbean.
A friend went - loved it.
Gary
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To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:44:09 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Ok, here's a response from a woman.
I married into sailing. Started with a small
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended)
The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang out on
the rail when the wind pipes up. No matter how much I tell my wife that
the lake winds and little chop are not even close to being a challenge for
a boat that was meant for
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended)
The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang out on
the rail when the wind pipes up. No matter how much I tell my
:41 AM
Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended)
The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang out on
the rail when the wind pipes up. No matter how much I tell my wife that the
lake winds and little chop
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From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended)
The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves
the rail
is not close to the waves.
As I said, I'm lucky.
Gary
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*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 9:41 AM
*Subject:* Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat
Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended)
The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang
out on the rail when the wind pipes up. No matter how much I tell my wife that
the lake winds and little
I'll let you guys know how the lessons help..
Racing did not help, she clammed-up even worse for fear that she'd screw
something up. Even if on that particular race, everything that could be
screwed-up was already taken care of so no one really cared. No amount of
screwing-up was going to make
Francois:
The only other suggestion is to make something on the boat “hers”, something
she will ultimately know better than you. In my wife’s case, its handling
under power. It could be anything. Another thing you can try is having a
“goal”, something that can only be accomplished by the
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I'll let you guys know how the lessons help..
Racing did not help, she clammed-up even worse for fear
Don't just send your lady to sailing lessons. Send her to a week long
ladies only sailing class. It's a LOT different than taking lessons with a
coed group. She will not just get sailing lessons, she will get emotional
support, counselling, share experiences with other women, etc. Chances are
I agree with Dennis, I sent my wife through the Womanship Sailing program
in 1982. She spent a week in the USVI with 7 other women. Returned with a
boat load of enthusiasm and has not lost her love for sailing. She on to
successfully campaign her J-24 all over the Southeastern USA as well as
, September 22, 2014 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I heard of a boat named Ruthless. The guy's wife's name was Ruth.
Then there was the famous race boat, FUJIMO. IIRC it stands for F*#$k you
Judy I'm moving on.
Martin
Calypso
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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:15 AM
To: David Donnelly; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
David,
Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a
sailboat heels
David,
Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a
sailboat heels or as mine says, . . . don't like when it leans.
And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a
narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my
How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of
girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less
concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the
wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets.
FWIW, When I
I completely agree with Joel. I am one of those wives who doesn't like a lot
off boat heel. I recognize that it is completely illogical and I do try to push
myself. I have found that when the wind picks up I do much much better when I
am on the helm- that way I can pinch when I feel
Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a smaller,
but stable boat. Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 (18ft
keelboats) transformed my Admiral.
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Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Ditto all the other comments. For my wife, it was lessons with a captain to
learn docking skills (she almost always docks now), working the main during
races, and most importantly, a friend who made fun of her one day. It wasn't
so funny at the time but certainly motivated her.
20 years and
Maybe you're luckier than you think.
One of the first times Deborah and I sailed together I was down at the
navstation figuring out nav stuff. Deborah was steering and, in a calm,
gentle voice from the helm, asked should the toe rail be under water? I
shoulda known I was in trouble right then.
I have been trying to get my wife to take a competent crew course with the
same instructor I had. She is reluctant to take the helm but will handle
sheets. She does help with docking when she is aboard too. A couple of
weeks ago we had a good blow for us with winds steady around 18kts and
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