Re: Stus-List Freeze proofing

2017-01-04 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Happy 2017 to all! Turns out my paranoia was not all in vain. Shore power was off for 3 days with temps into the 19F range. The marina suffered a 1 in 20 year "Arctic outflow" storm with a direct hit of winds > 50kn. Word on the dock is that a BC Ferries captain clocked 80kn winds nearby. My

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
nc-list.com> Cc: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:54:15 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Winter in eastern NC is really strange this year. Last night was 18F. Today was 33F. Tomorrow is 60. Sunday is 78. And by mid-week n

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
cnc-list.com> Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing We got down to 25 degrees with a ton of wind. Cabin heat is set on about 50 degrees on the 500 watt setting and the lowest cabin temp I saw was 38. I can click here and see my cabin temps fro

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
-24F is only… oh, wait… -31C. Okay, so maybe not better for the Canadians. Maybe the cold will be gone by the time you visit. Or maybe not. Bring warm clothes. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:00

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
high. From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then la

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2016-12-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 13:07 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the winter… :^) Nice storm coming

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2016-12-16 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the winter… :^) Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow starts before rush hour, with several inches forecast overnight; then temps drop to a low on Saturday of -24F, with winds gusting over 20… Sunday the temps get back up

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2016-12-16 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the Caframo Stor-Dry. No problems in decades of doing that. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 14 December 2016 at 14:26, Nate Flesness via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I usually just pull the

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
I usually just pull the thermostat in the Fall as part of winterizing - means the antifreeze circulates right away. Raw water cooled in freshwater, so its a good time to pull the leaves and pine needles out of it anyway...I keep thinking i'll install a filter Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 on the hard

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2016-12-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
t <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Mitchell's <themitche...@yahoo.ca> Subject: Stus-List Freeze Proofing Something not mentioned yet: the RV community uses a water heater bypass kit so you don't fill up your water heater with plumbing antifreeze. You simply drain it. Works great! Len Mitche

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2016-12-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
kbr...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing There is a bypass port in the thermostat housing that allows a limited amount of water flow through the engine block and cylinder head prior to the thermostat opening. This is to prevent getting localized hot spots while the

Stus-List Freeze proofing and is 2QM20H original

2016-12-14 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Thanks Rick - good to hear some AF will get in even if thermostat isn't open. My mechanic is the one who recommended the technique I've used. He told me to pour the AF in until I smelled it out of the exhaust after warming up the engine. I'm 100% positive the engine is a Y2QM20H although not

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The pink RV style antifreeze does freeze solid though it is suppose to not expand enough to break copper pipes at least down to the rated temperature. It may break plastic before the rated temperature. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 From: RANDY Thanks Rick,

Stus-List Freeze Proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Mitchell's via CnC-List
Something not mentioned yet: the RV community uses a water heater bypass kit so you don't fill up your water heater with plumbing antifreeze. You simply drain it. Works great! Len Mitchell Crazy Legs C 37+ Sent from my mobile device. ___ This

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2016-12-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:57 To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Thanks Rick, that's a relief to hear. I've been worried that I didn't let my A4 warm up enough to open th

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing Yep, the mighty Yanmar 2qm20 is raw water cooled and the 1

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Ralph via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing Yep, the mighty Yanmar 2qm20 is raw water cooled and the 1978 original. My understanding is that the thermostat opens to rout

Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Thanks Russ. Sounds like I'm over thinking it and things will be fine. I'm pretty sure the Baileys won't freeze and will make a nice special coffee when next I'm at the boat :) On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Russ & Melody wrote: Hi Jeremy, I don't do any specific winterizing

Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Thanks Rick for explaining. I wish I had a freshwater cooled engine. What I've got is a raw water cooled engine though. There is no heat exchanger or coolant. Salt water flows thu On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:20 PM, Rick Rohwer wrote: Hi Jeremy, The water (coolant) inside the

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Hi Jeremy, The water (coolant) inside the freshwater cooled engine is controlled by the thermostat. Coolant is approx 50% glycol to reduce the freeze point of the coolant (-25F or more). When the engine hits the set temp (190F), the thermostat opens and allows coolant cooled by the heat

Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Yep, the mighty Yanmar 2qm20 is raw water cooled and the 1978 original. My understanding is that the thermostat opens to route salt water through the block when warm enough. Thanks, Jeremy Dec 13, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Rick Brass wrote: Jeremy; Someone has probably

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Jeremy, I don't do any specific winterizing on the water sytems. I'm just across the pond from you in the area I call Pacific South West (Canada)... I would call Alaska the real PNW. But then again marketing is not something anywhere near my realm of expertise. However, keeping a boat

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC- Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; jeremy.ra...@gmail.com Cc: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing I take a different strateg

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it through the system. Poured about 5L in until it ca

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
don't forget foot pump at the galley sink if you have one.. winterizing the pressure water system won't get to it. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List wrote: Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather

Stus-List Freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Thanks to all for the feedback on freeze proofing. Patrick - I also run a heater and an Ecoseb desiccant dehumidifier (which is awesome!). Last year I didn't do anything with antifreeze, just the heaters, and everything was alright. This year the freeze is a lot colder though. I do worry about

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread randy via CnC-List
Cc: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:17:01 -0800 Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which rarely happens. Many people keep a small ceramic heater running in their boats, but what if the shore power goes out? Here is what I did las

Stus-List Freeze Proofing

2016-12-13 Thread colin binkley via CnC-List
Perhaps I missed a part, but is there like a Bowman heat exchanger involved? Does the engine carry its own coolant. If so it is imperative to check coolant quantity and degree protection. IMHO Colin S/V Lindsey Layne 71 C 40C #3 On the hard Western Lake Erie Sent from my iPhone

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
a full bucket (5 gal/25 l), my engine is well winterised. As I said, that extra $5-$10 (for an extra jug or two) is a very cheap insurance. Marek From: Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 14:21 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 15:27 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bradley Lumgair Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing This year I found a plug in the bottom front of the muffler, drained that and the strainer before I pumped antifreeze (Rv) through, thought was that the antifreeze would

Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
This year I found a plug in the bottom front of the muffler, drained that and the strainer before I pumped antifreeze (Rv) through, thought was that the antifreeze would be less diluted and it would require less fluid. It took one and a half jugs to get pink stuff in the pail out back. I use

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My marina requires you to either have an ice-eater or rent one for $200 from them. My $500+ dollar ice-eater finally died after many years, so I am trying a new strategy - pond pumps. I got 2 of them, 1000 GPH each, off Amazon for $120 total. I am going to hang one under the bow and one under

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:17:01 -0800 > Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing > Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather n

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I think). I do have concern though if the ther

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I think). I do have concern though if the thermostat was routing it into the block. I did warm up the engine first for ~20min under load with hopes

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sounds like what I do to winterize around here… btw, the temp is all the way up to +7F right now… :^( Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List > wrote: >

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
, so you’re probably stuck with RV stuff all around. From: Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which rarely

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
(about 30 cm (1 ft.) of snow on the ground) > > > > *From:* Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 13:18 > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Jeremy Ralph > *Subject:* Stus-List freeze proofing > > Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're gettin

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which rarely happens. Many people keep a small ceramic heater running in their boats, but what if the shore power goes out? Here is what I did last week to prep: 1

Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which rarely happens. Many people keep a small ceramic heater running in their boats, but what if the shore power goes out? Here is what I did last week to prep: 1. Run 2QM20 raw water cooled engine under load for 20min to