Re: My N900 experience compared to my FR experience
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Em 16-09-2010 09:30, Patryk Benderz escreveu: [cut] so it will stop working? he he. nice ;) Not nice nor fair, where are your lines of code in help of SHR? I'm not a core developer, but at least I'm making a (sort of) kickass StatusNet client :) Rui I contributed to the wiki, and wrote a pointless app, and I thought it was funny. :-) Though people who try to phone/text me just think I'm crazy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner For Sale
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Tim Schmidt timschm...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a nearly-never-used Freerunner I'd like to sell... To help people decide, please tell us which version is it, GTA02v5, v6, v7, what fixes it has applied (buzz fix, #1024, ..?) Ah yes, knew I'd forgotten something. The sticker inside says the following: GSM 850/1800/1900 Date Code: 20080620 PN 56-21146-00 I'm not sure if that makes in an A5 or an A6. It has had no fixes applied - I've never had any problems with it. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner For Sale
I've got a nearly-never-used Freerunner I'd like to sell... It's fully functional, original battery, charger w/ adapters, box, Zagg invisible shield (which has been applied to the screen since day 1), and a tuxbrain.com leather case w/ stylus. I'll ship anywhere in the US. Here's a couple photos: http://imgur.com/spmtVns24QZA861 Offers? Timothy Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: script for batch conversion of tango track log to gpx
nice one. check out prune, http://activityworkshop.net/software/prune/ also able to trim gpx files apparently. Tim omcomali@porcupinefactory.org wrote: Here's a script to cut/fix invalid data points I wrote some time ago. rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
script for batch conversion of tango track log to gpx
here's one I just wrote http://gist.github.com/489870 Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ANN: Freerunner Navigation Board v2
How about an altitude (pressure) sensor? That would make up for the accuracy of GPS height data. Tim Abell Christoph Mair wrote: Hi all! Thanks to a new triaxial gyroscope chip which became available a few weeks ago I started to work on a new navigation board for the freerunner. The new chip reduces the complexity which results in a single layer board containing the triaxial gyroscope ITG3200, the triaxial compass HMC5843, and the pressure sensor BMP085 and about seven passive components. The layout is done a final test is still pending. All drivers are tested and they work. Currently I'm waiting for a quote about how much it would cost to assemble the boards. It should be possible to get the assembled boards including all costs for components, PCB and assembling for about 75€ to 80€. If there is enough interest I'll try to get a first production run done. Since the backside of the board is still empty, the new navigation board won't replace the same amount of embedded air as the first version did. Any ideas on how to fix this 'design flaw'? I'm proposing the SHT21 a digital humidity sensor (from which I have a working sample) but the general availability is still limited. The price difference between a single and a dual layer board is negligible, therefore it's possible to include at least a footprint for new hardware, or simply a lot of solder pads for easier expansion. Suggestions? Cheers, Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner for sale
I'm somewhat interested in getting a second one, though I don't have much spare cash at the moment. Any idea how much it would cost to ship it the uk? Would you list it on a site that deals with payment like ebay? Tim Abell Tracy Reed wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:01:09AM -0700, Tracy Reed spake thusly: I bought this Freerunner when it was first released as part of the San Diego group buy back in July 2008. Although I was excited to do so at No takers? Not even a Here's $20 plus shipping? I did say best offer takes it. No reserve. If nobody wants it within the next week then I guess it's off to the recyclers. I had no idea interest had waned so dramatically. I'm normally pretty good with investing in future technologies but I'm shocked that this one was such a huge waste of $400-500 that now I can barely even give it away. Of course, my OLPC G1G1 investment hasn't exactly paid off either. I think I'm going to take it easy on the open source hardware for a while. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-Devel] OMNewRotate 0.5.7 is out!
Hiya, Firstly, thanks ever so much for putting in the effort getting my changes to omnewrotate through. I've upgraded my SHR-T today and got the latest version complete with init script. Woo! Here's some observations: *missing exec permission* The exec permission is missing from the init script which is causing the desktop shortcut to fail. Any chance you could get this fix rushed out? r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install omnewrotate Installing omnewrotate (0.5.7+svnr61-r0.4) to root... Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/omnewrotate_0.5.7+svnr61-r0.4_armv4t.ipk. Configuring omnewrotate. r...@om-gta02 ~ $ ls -l /etc/init.d/omnewrotate -rw-r--r--1 root root 1115 Apr 22 12:03 /etc/init.d/omnewrotate r...@om-gta02 ~ $ ps -A | grep rot r...@om-gta02 ~ $ /usr/bin/omnewrotate.sh /usr/bin/omnewrotate.sh: line 3: /etc/init.d/omnewrotate: Permission denied *workaround* chmod +x /etc/init.d/omnewrotate r...@om-gta02 ~ $ chmod +x /etc/init.d/omnewrotate r...@om-gta02 ~ $ /usr/bin/omnewrotate.sh starting omnewrotate...done r...@om-gta02 ~ $ /usr/bin/omnewrotate.sh stopping omnewrotate...done *unused config file* I also noticed that /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf is used any more and could be removed. Thanks for all the hard work! One small step for omnewrotate, one giant leap for SHR :-) Tim Abell Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: http://blog.1407.org/2010/04/04/omnewrotate-0-5-7-is-out/ After about 11 months since the previous release, I've just released omnewrotate 0.5.7 (after short lived 0.5.5 and 0.5.6 as I found out a dangling patch in SHR-Unstable's recipe and did a mistake on the 0.5.6 release) which integrates Tim Abell's init script change and the aforementioned patch. As I'm running SHR-Unstable, your mileage may vary but it's likely it will work :) As usual, the download links are at the project’s Google Code site for omnewrotate (see the featured downloads section): * the ipk of this release (OpenPGP sig). * and its tar ball (OpenPGP sig) Enjoy! ___ Shr-devel mailing list shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Forking TangoGPS - a digest why this is a silly fork
i happen to think it's an interesting discussion. you are of course free to unsubscribe. (or set up your mail filter lists into a different folder, and use a threaded view, then ignore threads that aren't interesting to you - I'd be happy to help you do this) xx Tim jeremy jozwik wrote: for craps sake stop filling my mailbox with this nonsense! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can you help collect package popularity data?
Alfa21 wrote: 2010-04...@23:36 Tim Abell The code is at http://github.com/timabell/popularity improvements would be welcome, as would inclusion in the various distros. Perhaps if it works out this could be hosted by the various distro servers. nice idea... but it works only with opkg based distros and only with _packages_ (no manually installed tgz or compliled sources) i'm only interested in opkg distros (shr) at the moment. apt bases ones could presumably use popcon if they want this functionality. tracking multiple distros would be a much more ambitious project, needing more standardised communications, and a way of matching up varied package name conventions to actual software. You are welcome to have a go :-) One that tracks software accross *all* platforms (including windows) would certainly be awesome for the OSS community. I don't think I mind missing other methods of installation, as generally all programs that see any decent usage *should* be packaged properly (it's very easy to provide an ipk, even if you don't put it any feeds). Besides, the itch I was scratching was for an app that *is* packaged grin. I think it would be harder to figure out what has been installed from source tgz, they can be too varied to track. (patches welcome though :-) also, it seems you do not do any check on duplicated submissions from the same user. indeed, I'd need a unique id for that. the trade off for that is privacy. not that i'm particulary against it, I just wanted some numbers as opposed to no numbers, so wanted to get something out there without trying to make it perfect (and therefore never releasing it) so I think a human submitted simple poll is more useful. i think human polls have their own value, but I think you are more likely to get complete data from something more automated. for what I wanted, the programmatic approach suits best. fixed choices with the label of the application (imho version number is not strictly relevant) version is part of the default output of opkg list-installed. I stripped it out when processing the data to just get a count package name. see http://www.timwise.co.uk/om/pop/summary20100410.txt for an example. Version number might be useful to see if people are running out-dated / insecure versions, prompting a push to get everyone upgraded. and the possibility for any user to add a new slot for missing ones and when submitted these new slots are converted to fixed choices for the others. every user should have own identifier so it's possible to update the own list of installed stuff. it would be good for a user to have their own unique id that they could enter as well as a per machine id, but it would have to be optional as it might put people off. better data vs. privacy again I think. the date of submission should be collected too. the filenames contain the php date output, which presumably can be turned back into a meaningful value. and ask a captcha on submission (bots are everywhere!) I'll deal with that when I have a problem with it ;-) Thanks for your email, it's great to bounce these ideas around. Yours Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can you help collect package popularity data?
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On what distros is it supposed to work? SHR? Debian? Qtmoko? Android? OM200x..? ..? r I was aiming at SHR, because that's what I run. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
new app - oFart
hiya, I wrote something pointless to make me laugh. simple installation: cd /etc/opkg wget http://www.timwise.co.uk/opkg/ofart/ofart-feed.conf http://www.timwise.co.uk/opkg/podpooch/podpooch-feed.conf opkg update opkg install ofart code at: http://github.com/timabell/oFart package / feed config at: http://www.timwise.co.uk/opkg/ofart/ enjoy Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
can you help collect package popularity data?
Hi all, I think it would be good for the community to have some idea of the install base for applications. So I wrote a very quick and dirty way for people to submit their installed package list. Try it with the following (will clobber anything called pop in /usr/bin): wget http://www.timwise.co.uk/om/pop/pop.tar.gz tar -C / pop.tar.gz then submit your package list with /usr/bin/pop You can view submissions at http://www.timwise.co.uk/om/pop/submissions/ I've not done any work on analysis yet. The code is at http://github.com/timabell/popularity improvements would be welcome, as would inclusion in the various distros. Perhaps if it works out this could be hosted by the various distro servers. see also http://popcon.debian.org/ Yours Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can you help collect package popularity data?
sam tygier wrote: On 10/04/10 23:36, Tim Abell wrote: wget http://www.timwise.co.uk/om/pop/pop.tar.gz tar -C / pop.tar.gz that should be tar -C / -vxf pop.tar.gz is this inspired by debian's popcon? sam doh, i knew i wouldn't get it all right at this time of night :-) good catch yes, partly inspired by popcon, but mostly by a discussion over whether I had one or two users in total for podpooch :-) Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader] Border interactions
Seems like patch didn't get through, reposting bzipped. -Tim Op woensdag 16-12-2009 om 22:28 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tim Besard: Hi all, Attached to this mail is a small patch I wrote a while ago, introducing border interactions. It quite simply hacks in a 15px magical border which when tapped induces certain actions: * upper border: page up; * lower border: page down; * left border: history back; * right border: history forward. I've added page up down because it reads far faster and scrolling (at least on my wikireader) turned out to be quite unreadable. History back and forward are handy shortcuts while clicking through links of an article. -Tim binx47P1LNsiF.bin Description: application/bzip ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[wikireader] Border interactions
Hi all,
Attached to this mail is a small patch I wrote a while ago, introducing
border interactions. It quite simply hacks in a 15px magical border
which when tapped induces certain actions:
* upper border: page up;
* lower border: page down;
* left border: history back;
* right border: history forward.
I've added page up down because it reads far faster and scrolling
(at least on my wikireader) turned out to be quite unreadable. History
back and forward are handy shortcuts while clicking through links of an
article.
-Tim
From b10b2a9fbd6e91910f1f0012520f9cbcbc987c91 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Tim Besard tim.bes...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:37:35 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Border interactions (history navigation and page up/down).
---
wiki-app/history.c | 39 +++---
wiki-app/history.h |7 ++-
wiki-app/lcd_buf_draw.c | 101 +++---
wiki-app/lcd_buf_draw.h |3 +
wiki-app/wikilib.c | 23 ++-
5 files changed, 140 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
diff --git a/wiki-app/history.c b/wiki-app/history.c
index 7548b06..d6ebef7 100644
--- a/wiki-app/history.c
+++ b/wiki-app/history.c
@@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ int history_count = 0;
int rendered_history_count = -1;
int history_changed = HISTORY_SAVE_NONE;
extern int display_mode;
+int history_index = 0;
static inline unsigned int history_modulus(int modulus) {
return modulus % HISTORY_MAX_DISPLAY_ITEM;
@@ -55,10 +56,14 @@ void history_reload()
render_history_with_pcf();
}
-void history_add(const long idx_article, const char *title, int b_keep_pos)
+void history_add(const long idx_article, const char *title, int b_keep_pos, int b_shift)
{
int i = 0;
int bFound = 0;
+
+ if (b_shift)
+ history_shift(history_index);
+ history_index = 0;
history_changed = HISTORY_SAVE_NORMAL;
while (!bFound i history_count)
@@ -89,11 +94,23 @@ void history_add(const long idx_article, const char *title, int b_keep_pos)
history_count++;
}
-void history_log_y_pos(const long y_pos)
-{
- if (history_changed != HISTORY_SAVE_NORMAL)
- history_changed = HISTORY_SAVE_POWER_OFF;
- history_list[0].last_y_pos = y_pos;
+long history_get_article() {
+ return history_list[history_index].idx_article;
+}
+
+void history_shift(int amount) {
+ if (amount = 0)
+ return;
+ if (amount = history_count) {
+ history_clear();
+ return;
+ }
+ history_count -= amount;
+ memcpy((void*)history_list[0],(void*)history_list[amount],sizeof(HISTORY)*history_count);
+}
+
+void history_set_y_pos(const long y_pos) {
+ history_list[history_index].last_y_pos = y_pos;
}
long history_get_y_pos(const long idx_article)
@@ -164,6 +181,16 @@ int history_list_save(int level)
return rc;
}
+void history_navigate(int articles) {
+ int index = history_index - articles;
+ if (index 0 || index = history_count)
+ return;
+ history_index -= articles;
+ long idx_article = history_get_article();
+
+ display_revisited_article(idx_article);
+}
+
void draw_clear_history(int bClear)
{
int i;
diff --git a/wiki-app/history.h b/wiki-app/history.h
index 6117783..d10c756 100644
--- a/wiki-app/history.h
+++ b/wiki-app/history.h
@@ -34,15 +34,18 @@
void history_clear(void);
-void history_add(const long idx_article, const char *title, int b_keep_pos);
+void history_add(const long idx_article, const char *title, int b_keep_pos, int b_shift);
unsigned int history_get_count();
void history_list_init(void);
int history_list_save(int level);
void history_open_article(int new_selection);
void history_reload();
-void history_log_y_pos(const long y_pos);
+long history_get_article();
+void history_shift(int amount);
+void history_set_y_pos(const long y_pos);
long history_get_y_pos(const long idx_article);
+void history_navigate(int articles);
void draw_clear_history(int bFlag);
typedef struct _HISTORY {
diff --git a/wiki-app/lcd_buf_draw.c b/wiki-app/lcd_buf_draw.c
index 51bceb1..9d80619 100644
--- a/wiki-app/lcd_buf_draw.c
+++ b/wiki-app/lcd_buf_draw.c
@@ -106,6 +106,8 @@ int stop_render_article = 0;
int b_show_scroll_bar = 0;
long saved_idx_article;
+bool hist_revisit = false;
+
#define MIN_BAR_LEN 20
void show_scroll_bar(int bShow)
{
@@ -1199,7 +1201,7 @@ void display_article_with_pcf(int start_y)
if (lcd_draw_cur_y_pos 0)
lcd_draw_cur_y_pos = 0;
if (display_mode == DISPLAY_MODE_ARTICLE)
- history_log_y_pos(lcd_draw_cur_y_pos);
+ history_set_y_pos(lcd_draw_cur_y_pos);
pos = (lcd_draw_cur_y_pos*LCD_VRAM_WIDTH_PIXELS)/8;
@@ -1223,7 +1225,7 @@ float scroll_speed()
void scroll_article(void)
{
unsigned long time_now, delay_time;
- long pos;
+ int article_scroll_actual;
if(finger_move_speed == 0)
return;
@@ -1244,26 +1246,13 @@ void scroll_article(void)
time_scroll_article_last = time_now;
article_scroll_increment = (float)finger_move_speed * ((float)delay_time / (float)seconds_to_ticks(1));
-
- lcd_draw_cur_y_pos += article_scroll_increment
[wikireader] Support for other keyboard layouts
Hi all, Since I live in Belgium where the QWERTY keyboards aren't used that much, I had a look at supporting other layouts for the on-screen keyboard. The current code however seemed quite statically supporting a single layout, so I spent some time separating the QWERTY-based code to a single header, and replaced the code-generating Python tool to generate all layout-specific code (instead of only a part of that code). The attached patch adds and defaults to an AZERTY-based layout. As I didn't (and still don't) know whether the devs plans to add some run-time configuration wizard, I separated the code but made the layout choice to be by including azerty.h instead of qwerty.h in the keyboard.c source file. I'm using it for some days now, apart from some 1 pixel mismatches (which also are present at the default layout) it works pretty well. As I saw some posts about generating a French wiki I guessed it might come in handy for some :) -Tim PS. this message might appear once more somewhere in the future, as I already posted it some days ago which failed due to the attachment size (hence the bzip2-compression). binGWm6DAxrNd.bin Description: application/bzip ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] Sharing compiling sources.
Hi,
It seems that the Dutch wikipedia contains some UTF-8 only characters,
which crashes the parser after all due to the system echo in the
exception handler. Changing the offending line to
os.system('echo \%s\ fault_articles.txt' %
title.encode(utf8))
fixes the issue.
Tim
Op maandag 30-11-2009 om 14:49 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef David Reyes
Samblas Martinez:
Here you have :)
David Reyes Samblas Martinez
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Open ultraportable embedded solutions
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2009/11/30 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name:
Hi,
can you maybe release this as a patch?
I like to inegrate this in github. But I fear I might miss something if I
try to fiddle out the changes by hand.
Thanks
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
Sorry for the wait Thomas,
I was working to solve the broken pipe issue that stops the parser
when it finds an error. I have applied a quick and dirty workaround
using try-catch technique and now the process will not stop and just
skip the faulty article and keeps going :) it logs the faulty ones in
a text file (title and position) for posterior forensics, but my first
guesses in that is not a codification issue with utf8 is more an
unexpected formating tag the php parser don't know how to deal with
Actually parsing the german wikipedia with more than 1.3 million articles
Count: 1043000
Failing count: 2
and keeps going I supose we can sacrificate two articles for having
one milion available now :)
as you requested I uploaded my working compiled tools[1] but without
any xml sources it's about 113Mb, but if you have a working tools on
your system you just have to change
host-tools/offline-renderer/ArticleParser.py by the attached on this
mail and you can forget to cry like a child that his ice cream has
fall to the floor when after more than 24h parsing hundred of thousand
articles pased the process you see this ugly python error backtrace
blablabla and not your desired file :)
by the way the faultyarticles.txt is saved at same
host-tools/offline-renderer directory, (i'm too lazy to put a
parameter for change that and I hardcoded the name of the file ,
yes... don't waste typing on correct that bad habit, I know)
If you have curiosity of what articles on the german wiki are causing
troubles
on dewiki-latest-pages-articles.xml (date 2009-11-20)
~Storck Bicycle
832673
~Musculus serratus posterior inferior
857334
Regards I hope I will upload the German wikipedia on Sunday... and
will be available on Monday, sorry for the wait but my Asymmetric DSL
is very asymmetric and upload 1.5-2 Gb (expected file size) will take
a bunch of hours.
For those than wants to compile his own , go for it :) the
Quickreference in the doc directory on the souce is all you need to
start working, just remember than if you have a 64 bit system you
will have to follow the 64 bits method to compile the tools,
Regards
[1]http://tuxbrain.org/downloads/wikireader/wikireaderbinaries20091127_dsamblas_modified_trycatch.tar.bz2
David Reyes Samblas Martinez
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Open ultraportable embedded solutions
Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino
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2009/11/27 Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr:
Thomas HOCEDEZ a écrit :
Hi DAvid,
Can you share your scripts configs to do the same in French (and
other
languages) ?
Thanks
Thomas
As the Mailing list seems to be broken (or users started hibernating for
winter...) I find by myself the way to compile things step by step.
I'm for now rendering the French Wikipedia. As it started a few minutes
ago,
the result will be availabel during the weekend (I hope).
I'll also post the way I managed to do so ! (I'm at the office for now,
and
I'm leaving...)
Regards to you all !
Thomas
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mokopod podcast reader improved
hi all, just to let anyone interested know i've just done a load of work on improving mokopod ( http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokopod/ ). it can now show you the episode list, and download/play/delete individual episodes. i have it running on SHR code is here: http://github.com/timabell/mokopod enjoy! yours Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
for reference, attached is some output from hcidump lsmod on my laptop, where I am able to connect and use the keyboard successfully. Tim laptop.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
I also found I needed to disable the demo set. Tim Abell pike wrote: I dont know if it helps you, but I had the same until I *disabled* the demo mapset. It seems only one mapset is allowed (perhaps, or perhaps its something else - it doesnt mention this in the wiki so i always assume i'm crazy - if this helps we should update the om wiki page to mention this, ehr, feature) you *can* put multiple maps in one mapset, though. good luck! *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
Super, thanks Sebastian, Are you navit's maintainter then? (Just curious). Could you provide an idea when the feeds will be rebuilt, or any background info on how that happens? Thanks again, Tim Abell Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: I already told you why - that's configuration problem. Conf files are refering to libriaries, which are usually found in -dev packages. I fixed it yesterday, on next feed rebuild in SHR -dev package won't be needed (and speech-dispatcher dpenedency will be dropped) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] navit package change request - no desktop icon
Hiya, Could I ask whoever packages navit for shr unstable to modify the .desktop file so it shows up on the main screen? in /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop Categories=GTK; should read Categories=Applications; or similar. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] navit won't run
I just timed that install of navit-dev 53 minutes. meh. real53m 25.40s user6m 54.57s sys 23m 41.86s Tim arne anka wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:31:22 +0200, Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk wrote: opkg install navit-dev (installs *lots* of dedpedencies) of course -- it is a devel package. to me your symptoms sound like you didn't have a working configuration (ie navit.xml). maybe navit-dev simply installed something working? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:52:20 +0100 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009, Tim Abell wrote: Hiya, Thanks for the suggestion. I had seen that bug but hadn't known what to try. I've now updated to shr-unstable, and have exactly the same symptoms as before, with events showing in hcidump but not in xev. I've tried changing the startup parameters of Xglamo as suggested, I tried removing vt1, I tried replacing it with vt0 (x won't start like that), and vt2. None of these fixed the problem. It may be worth noting that if I stop X, then I don't get any output from the bluetooth keyboard appearing on the console on the phone unlike in the bug report you mention. Any other ideas? If input isn't getting to the console either then check whether the keyboard is actually appearing as an input device. You could check dmesg or logread, or try: ls -l /dev/input/by-path/ hal-find-by-capability --capability input.keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community thanks all for your input . i'll be offline for a bit but will work through all help as soon as i can . msg sent with claws mail on shr unstable. woo ! Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-unstable] navit won't run
Hiya, Can anyone help me get navit to run / figure out the problem? r...@om-gta02 ~ $ navit Enabling low-mem workaround... navit:vehicle_new:invalid type 'gpsd' navit:speech_new:wrong type 'cmdline' navit:navit_init:no gui navit:main:Using '/usr/share/navit/navit.xml' navit:main:No instance has been created, exiting It worked on shr-testing. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Hiya,
Thanks for the suggestion. I had seen that bug but hadn't known what to try.
I've now updated to shr-unstable, and have exactly the same symptoms as
before, with events showing in hcidump but not in xev. I've tried
changing the startup parameters of Xglamo as suggested, I tried removing
vt1, I tried replacing it with vt0 (x won't start like that), and vt2.
None of these fixed the problem.
It may be worth noting that if I stop X, then I don't get any output
from the bluetooth keyboard appearing on the console on the phone unlike
in the bug report you mention.
Any other ideas?
Tim
If I stop
Tim Abell wrote:
I hadn't realised till now that SHR is the main focus of development,
so I have just reflashed with that and will try again.
Thanks
Tim Abell
Tim Abell wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Tim Abell wrote:
Hi all,
I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the
keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any
applications, including xev.
Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this?
Sounds like bug #1796 [1]. It's the parameters passed when starting X that
are
the problem, and affects USB keyboards too. Look in /etc/X11/Xserver and
compare with the diff below - beware line wrap. If this is the problem then
please file a bug report.
--- a/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver
+++ b/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ case `module_id` in
modprobe mbxfb
ARGS=$ARGS -br -fb /dev/fb1 ;;
GTA01 | GTA02)
-ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-
ppm/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm vt1 ;;
+ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -br ;;
Motorola Ezx Platform)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 170 -screen 240x320 -hide-cursor
-root-ppm
/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-qvga.ppm vt1 ;;
Nokia N800)
[1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796
Thanks Al,
My Xserver file isn't exactly the same, but I tried to make matching
changes:
r...@om-gta02:/etc/X11# diff Xserver.orig Xserver
--- Xserver.origThu Jun 25 19:36:17 2009
+++ XserverFri Jun 26 23:30:27 2009
@@ -113,7 +113,7 @@
else
DPI=140
fi
-ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE}
-mouse tslib -hide-cursor -root-ppm
/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm vt1
+ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE}
-hide-cursor -br
XSERVER=/usr/bin/Xglamo
;;
Nokia N770)
I've attached the two versions, the original from my phone (.orig)
and my attempt at modifying it (.bluetooth)
The changes don't appear to have helped.
Tim
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Re: [shr-unstable] navit won't run
To partially answer my own question, opkg install navit-dev (installs *lots* of dedpedencies) http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg46634.html http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/linux/95395-navit-opensource-vector-based-navigation-program-routing-engine-6.html navit now runs. That probably needs a bug report against the shr packaging of navit... Tim Tim Abell wrote: Hiya, Can anyone help me get navit to run / figure out the problem? r...@om-gta02 ~ $ navit Enabling low-mem workaround... navit:vehicle_new:invalid type 'gpsd' navit:speech_new:wrong type 'cmdline' navit:navit_init:no gui navit:main:Using '/usr/share/navit/navit.xml' navit:main:No instance has been created, exiting It worked on shr-testing. Thanks Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Al Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Tim Abell wrote:
Hi all,
I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the
keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any
applications, including xev.
Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this?
Sounds like bug #1796 [1]. It's the parameters passed when starting X that are
the problem, and affects USB keyboards too. Look in /etc/X11/Xserver and
compare with the diff below - beware line wrap. If this is the problem then
please file a bug report.
--- a/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver
+++ b/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ case `module_id` in
modprobe mbxfb
ARGS=$ARGS -br -fb /dev/fb1 ;;
GTA01 | GTA02)
-ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-
ppm/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm vt1 ;;
+ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -br ;;
Motorola Ezx Platform)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 170 -screen 240x320 -hide-cursor -root-ppm
/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-qvga.ppm vt1 ;;
Nokia N800)
[1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796
Thanks Al,
My Xserver file isn't exactly the same, but I tried to make matching
changes:
r...@om-gta02:/etc/X11# diff Xserver.orig Xserver
--- Xserver.origThu Jun 25 19:36:17 2009
+++ XserverFri Jun 26 23:30:27 2009
@@ -113,7 +113,7 @@
else
DPI=140
fi
-ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE} -mouse
tslib -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm vt1
+ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE}
-hide-cursor -br
XSERVER=/usr/bin/Xglamo
;;
Nokia N770)
I've attached the two versions, the original from my phone (.orig) and
my attempt at modifying it (.bluetooth)
The changes don't appear to have helped.
Tim
#!/bin/sh
#
# note xinit needs full server path
if [ -f /usr/bin/Xfbdev ]; then
XSERVER=/usr/bin/Xfbdev
fi
if [ -f /usr/bin/Xepson ]; then
XSERVER=/usr/bin/Xepson
fi
if [ -f /usr/bin/Xorg ]; then
XSERVER=/usr/bin/Xorg
fi
. /etc/profile
fallback_screen_arg() {
geom=`fbset | grep geometry`
w=`echo $geom | awk '{ print $2 }'`
h=`echo $geom | awk '{ print $3 }'`
b=`echo $geom | awk '{ print $6 }'`
echo -n ${w}x${h}x${b}
}
screen_width() {
geom=`fbset | grep geometry`
w=`echo $geom | awk '{ print $2 }'`
echo -n ${w}
}
module_id() {
## used to read from assets, but sometimes assets is corrupted
# grep Module ID /proc/hal/assets | sed s/.*://
## used to read from /proc/hal/model, but that is removed in 2.6
# echo ' iPAQ' `cat /proc/hal/model`
awk 'BEGIN { FS=: } /Hardware/ { print $2 } ' /proc/cpuinfo
}
export USER=root
SCREEN_SIZE=`fallback_screen_arg`
ARGS= -br -pn
# use ucb 1x00 touchscreen if present
if [ -z $TSLIB_TSDEVICE ] [ -e /dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00 ]; then
ARGS=$ARGS -mouse /dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00
fi
# use usb mouse if present
# Xorg doesn't support -mouse option, and uses /dev/input/mice automatically
if [ -z $TSLIB_TSDEVICE ] [ -e /dev/input/mice ] [ $XSERVER != Xorg
]; then
ARGS=$ARGS -mouse /dev/input/mice
fi
# start off server in conventional location.
case `module_id` in
HP iPAQ H3100 | HP iPAQ H3800)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba vrgb -screen ${screen_si...@90 ;;
HP iPAQ H3600 | HP iPAQ H3700 | HP iPAQ H3900)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba vbgr -screen ${screen_si...@270 ;;
HP iPAQ H5400 | HP iPAQ H2200)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba rgb ;;
HP iPAQ HX4700)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 200
IMAGEON=w3220
;;
Ramses)
# What is this vt2 in aid of?
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba vrgb -screen ${screen_si...@90 vt2
;;
# both 'Sharp-Collie' and just 'Collie' have been reported
*Poodle)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba vrgb -screen ${screen_si...@270 ;;
*Collie)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba vrgb -screen ${screen_si...@270 ;;
SHARP Shepherd | SHARP Husky | SHARP Corgi)
if [ `screen_width` -gt 330 ] ; then
DPI=200
else
DPI=100
fi
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -rgba rgb
IMAGEON=w100
;;
SHARP Spitz | SHARP Akita | SHARP Borzoi)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 200 -rgba rgb -screen ${screen_si...@270 ;;
Simpad)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -rgba rgb ;;
Generic OMAP1510/1610/1710)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 220 -mouse /dev/input/event0 ;;
Cellon C8000 Board)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 100 -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE},10,1 ;;
HTC Magician
[Om2009] fao nytowl, om2009 listing in wiki distributions page
Hi All / nytowl, I installed Om2009 on the basis that it is listed under official on the distributions page, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions I now understand (via irc) that openmoko are no longer maintaining any distributions, and that Om2009 is produced and maintained by Angus Ainslie (nytowl). Do you (Angus) or anyone else object if I move Om2009 in that listing to the community section as this would clear up any confusion. It would also be worth adding a note to this page for those unaware of the change to openmoko's focus. Thanks Tim Abell refs: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who#Om2009 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
I hadn't realised till now that SHR is the main focus of development, so
I have just reflashed with that and will try again.
Thanks
Tim Abell
Tim Abell wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Tim Abell wrote:
Hi all,
I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the
keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any
applications, including xev.
Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this?
Sounds like bug #1796 [1]. It's the parameters passed when starting X that are
the problem, and affects USB keyboards too. Look in /etc/X11/Xserver and
compare with the diff below - beware line wrap. If this is the problem then
please file a bug report.
--- a/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver
+++ b/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ case `module_id` in
modprobe mbxfb
ARGS=$ARGS -br -fb /dev/fb1 ;;
GTA01 | GTA02)
-ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-
ppm/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm vt1 ;;
+ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -br ;;
Motorola Ezx Platform)
ARGS=$ARGS -dpi 170 -screen 240x320 -hide-cursor -root-ppm
/usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-qvga.ppm vt1 ;;
Nokia N800)
[1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796
Thanks Al,
My Xserver file isn't exactly the same, but I tried to make matching
changes:
r...@om-gta02:/etc/X11# diff Xserver.orig Xserver
--- Xserver.origThu Jun 25 19:36:17 2009
+++ XserverFri Jun 26 23:30:27 2009
@@ -113,7 +113,7 @@
else
DPI=140
fi
-ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE} -mouse
tslib -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm vt1
+ARGS=$ARGS -dpi ${DPI} -screen ${SCREEN_SIZE}
-hide-cursor -br
XSERVER=/usr/bin/Xglamo
;;
Nokia N770)
I've attached the two versions, the original from my phone (.orig) and
my attempt at modifying it (.bluetooth)
The changes don't appear to have helped.
Tim
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Error during download get_status
Still got a lot of times the dfu-util error -62. But now, on OpenSuSE I encountered a different problem. Error during download get_status Here is the terminal IN/OUTPUT: dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x1d50:0x5119... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=5, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=35601 Starting download: [Error during download get_status Any help? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
dfu_download error -62
Hi, Im currently experiencing some trouble. I get a dfu_download error -62 when I tried to flash the kernel and the root filesystem. Any ideas on how to solve this? Best Regards Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tango and the missing map tiles
Hi all,
I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available
when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and
then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty gaps in your coverage.
Here's a quick n dirty script that removes all the empty files so that
tango will fetch them next time.
r...@om-gta02:~# cat cleanmapcache.sh
#!/bin/sh -v
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f
find Maps/OSM/ -size 0 -type f -exec rm {} \;
The first line displays the empty tile list, the second deletes them.
Feel free to stick this on the wiki or something. I don't know if this
needs a bug report.
Om2009
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet
bump. any news on this? I'm having the same issue in Om2009 Paul Fertser wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: 2009/5/26 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk: I found that as well. Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used for in SHR-Unstable? If it's simply been pulled in as a dependency (e.g. for X.org) and isn't actively being used (e.g. by X.org for input management), then it can be removed without breaking anything, which makes the problem go away. hal appears to be a dependency of xserver-kdrive-fbdev and xserver-security-policy; is it actually critical for these packages, or is thomas' assessment correct? i'm getting the same problem of reported charge This is a problem that needs to be fixed. For the time being it can be easily workarounded by using internal method for the battery applet, but a proper long-term solution is yet to be found. For that one needs to contact HAL guys and ask them about how exactly they recommend to use their battery-monitoring interfaces, both from upper level (how an application should deal with current situation where we have 1 apm emulation for the battery, one usb power supply (that according to the hal sources is also considered a battery) and one real battery) and a lower layer (that real battery monitoring doesn't work because E's battery gadget assumes the presence of some sysfs properties that our driver lacks, OTOH i couldn't find any document describing which sysfs nodes really must be present to be compliant and which are optional). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this? refs: my hcidump: http://pastebin.ca/1473582 (attached) my notes so far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard#Om2009 vaguely related bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 older attempts: http://timwise.wikispaces.com/freedom+universal+keyboard Thanks Tim Abell HCI sniffer - Bluetooth packet analyzer ver 1.42 device: hci0 snap_len: 1028 filter: 0x HCI Event: Connect Request (0x04) plen 10 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 class 0x002540 type ACL HCI Command: Accept Connection Request (0x01|0x0009) plen 7 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 role 0x01 Role: Slave HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Accept Connection Request (0x01|0x0009) status 0x00 ncmd 1 HCI Event: Connect Complete (0x03) plen 11 status 0x00 handle 42 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 type ACL encrypt 0x00 HCI Command: Read Remote Supported Features (0x01|0x001b) plen 2 handle 42 HCI Event: Page Scan Repetition Mode Change (0x20) plen 7 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 mode 1 HCI Event: Max Slots Change (0x1b) plen 3 handle 42 slots 5 HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Read Remote Supported Features (0x01|0x001b) status 0x00 ncmd 0 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Connect req: psm 17 scid 0x0040 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 result 1 status 0 Connection pending - No futher information available ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 10 L2CAP(s): Info req: type 2 HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Unknown (0x00|0x) status 0x00 ncmd 1 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Info rsp: type 2 result 1 Not supported HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 result 0 status 0 Connection successful HCI Event: Read Remote Supported Features (0x0b) plen 11 status 0x00 handle 42 Features: 0xff 0xff 0x05 0x38 0x18 0x18 0x00 0x00 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0040 flags 0x00 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 18 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0040 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0040 flags 0x00 clen 0 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0040 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 0 Success HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Connect req: psm 19 scid 0x0041 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0041 scid 0x0041 result 0 status 0 Connection successful HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0041 flags 0x00 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 18 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0041 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 4 MTU 48 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Config req: dcid 0x0041 flags 0x00 clen 0 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(s): Config rsp: scid 0x0041 flags 0x00 result 0 clen 0 Success HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(d): cid 0x0041 len 10 [psm 19] HIDP: Data: Input report ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 14 L2CAP(d): cid 0x0041 len 10 [psm 19] HCI Command: Remote Name Request (0x01|0x0019) plen 10 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 mode 2 clkoffset 0x HCI Event: Command Status (0x0f) plen 4 Remote Name Request (0x01|0x0019) status 0x00 ncmd 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn req: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn req: dcid 0x0041 scid 0x0041 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn rsp: dcid 0x0040 scid 0x0040 HCI Event: Number of Completed Packets (0x13) plen 5 handle 42 packets 1 ACL data: handle 42 flags 0x02 dlen 12 L2CAP(s): Disconn rsp: dcid 0x0041 scid 0x0041 HCI Event: Remote Name Req Complete (0x07) plen 255 status 0x00 bdaddr 00:0B:0D:8A:35:62 name 'FREEDOM KEYBOARD' HCI Command
Re: Freerunner's Future - sony ericsson evilness
my favourite sony ericsson bug is the one where it waits till your memory stick (blergh) is almost totally full (with precious memories etc), and then wraps round and overwrites the FAT, followed by a this card is not formatted message. I'd link to the bug report but, erm, well, there is no bug tracker. I discovered it when trying to fill mine up with inconsequential mp3s, my non techie friend tripped over it when she had filled it up with photos. Thank f* for linux, dd and those clever recovery tools. Tim Abell Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 06 June 2009, Ben Wong wrote: My biggest disappointment has been the fact that my Openmoko Freerunner (which I've had since helping form the Austin buying group) is still not _nearly_ as reliable as any cheap simple handset I can get for 10% of the cost. Not to disagree, I'd like to share that in the short time I've been using my Freerunner as my only phone it has been much, MUCH, more reliable than my previous smart phone. I was particularly amused to find a friend's Sony-Ericsson has the Buzz issue. Another bug is a tendency to switch network in the middle of a call when roaming, leaving both ends with a silent line. Then there was the long list of niggles and frustrations...at least we get to do something about (most of) our bugs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
How do I tell? It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried. Tim Abell Lon Lentz wrote: Is the keyboard using encryption? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this? refs: my hcidump: http://pastebin.ca/1473582 (attached) my notes so far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard#Om2009 vaguely related bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 older attempts: http://timwise.wikispaces.com/freedom+universal+keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X
Oh, ok.
I can't find the file you mention.
r...@om-gta02:/etc/bluetooth# ls
audio.confinput.confmain.conf network.conf rfcomm.conf
Ta.
Tim Abell
Lon Lentz wrote:
With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt
enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe you could be having
the same problem.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote:
How do I tell?
It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried.
Tim Abell
Lon Lentz wrote:
Is the keyboard using encryption?
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Re: Debuzzing in the UK?
nice one. I'd been wondering about that. Tim Abell Berks, UK Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Just as far as your nearest Royal Mail... BR, Nikolaus Am 10.06.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dave Smith: Hi all, It's been a while since I looked at getting the buzz on my FreeRunner fixed up, after having no luck finding anyone with the right equipment to be able to perform it amongst local friends and contacts, so I figured I'd throw a message out on here to see if anyone can point me in the direction of anyone in the United Kingdom who has the tools, time, and inclination to perform the fix for me. :) Has anyone any experience with getting someone in this area performing the fix? Thanks in advance, Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a license. So these dolts want a license fee for every turing complete computer above a few mips? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LCD Displays?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, zogg zoggif...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like LCD for indoors are common, and for outdoors theres scarcity. So, do you know any manufacturers, or at least in what direction should i try and look at? The OLPC has an LCD which is very easy to read in daylight. When backlit, it appears as a color LCD, but when frontlit (as from the sun), it appears greyscale. This is a function of the OLPC's very efficient backlight system (instead of using colored filters to block out 66% of the light from the white backlight for each pixel, they use a fresnel prism to split the backlight into it's component wavelengths on pixel boundaries. Thereby allowing nearly 100% of the light produced by the backlight through to your eyes, as opposed to less than 33% for typical LCDs. Light from the front of the LCD passes through the pixels, and is reflected by a silvered layer, back through the pixels to your eyes, never passing through the prism, so what would normally be colored sub-pixels appear as greyscale pixels. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LCD Displays?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, zogg zoggif...@gmail.com wrote: Thats intresting. What could have stopped them from making it non-monochrome in daylight? It's not possible, as light coming from the front of the LCD will have to pass through the prism in the wrong direction in order to be reflected back through the prism. The split light would then not line up with the pixel boundaries. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LCD Displays?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Thursday 21 May 2009, zogg wrote: Thats intresting. What could have stopped them from making it non-monochrome in daylight? Probably cost and efficiency as these were major factors in OLPC. If PixelQi don't start producing screens that are colour in daylight then I guess there's a technical reason as well. Based on the explanation below I would have thought adding the coloured filters between the LCD and the reflective layer would drop backlight efficiency only a little since the prism has already split the light, but I'm no expert. The extra component requiring precision placement would add cost though. That's a good idea actually, and might just work. (!) --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....
Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with Uboot???/Qi???; i don't know) But i'm really unsure! A better qualified answear would be welcome! :D Regrads Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had regarding that. It's interesting that we have been talking extensively about a GTA3 as the next high powered has it all device. It may well be. Let's imagine a GTA2.5 however... GTA2 with a few hardware issues solved, GPS fix time, call quality (the hardware bits), accelerated graphics! :) and the other bits and bobs... Then imagine *dropping* the price. I am not at openmoko and this will almost certainly not happen :) but remember - most FOSS devs want a *phone*, a libre *phone* - some people want internet tablets and that's life - but perhaps a GTA2.5 is an answer... It probably isn't, but the ideas there. :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
* I found out how to suppress the hints bar, that never had any real use for me Doesn't quiet work for me, the hints bar overlays the key stroke for the top row of keys. Try creating a new sms message and begin a word with one of these letters. Otherwise looks good! Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] duplicate SMS messages
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Warren Baird photogeek...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't had time to install a 4.4.3 build yet, but I was wondering if anyone had confirmed if the duplicate sms message issue has been resolved? I'm running Lorn's build of 4.4.2, but my sms inbox keeps filling up 'cause every time I get an sms, I get duplicates of many of my messages added to the inbox... I was still getting this problem on a recent build (4.4.3) that I built using the qtopia toolchain. Could this be related to the modem firmware version? I am running an early version possible ver5 will have to check though. Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Could you please clarify your opinion on BT audio issues on GTA01
Hallo Paul, * Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com [11-03-09 19:36]: Still it looks like asoc driver for GTA01 will need to be backported from GTA02, but it's a matter of software, so it can be made to work. This? http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=c1b03e4da22e8dd7a6caccb9e39a9201535ced11 Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I don't think FDOM is recommended really anymore... at least not the stable version. For a FDOM like experience on 2008.12 install the 2008.12 image then run Kustomizer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer There are some things that won't be better, but in some things there is a marked difference. one thing to realise is that the group of programs installed may well differ. let us know how you get on, Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: I tried 2008.12 and my SIM card would not register so I can't use that. Try SHR. My SIM card which won't work with 2009.12 and 2008.12 annoyingly works fine with it. Alternatively search the wiki about Sim card issues -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it. Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old? Tried the new SHR testing? I will give SHR Testing a try First off sorry about reposting, but after looking at the SHR wiki page there is one concern and a question On the wiki page this is listed under the Known Issues Address Book SHR is not implementing a PIM (Personal Information Manager) yet. Work is in progress, but to included in SHR testing this has some consequences on daily use: * Only contacts on the SIM card are available. * It is not possible to import a Vcard file. o It seems to be possible with this gopher://gopher.fnordpol.de/9/data/DbusAccessScripts_0.0.0.tar.gz script written by Zem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zem#DBus_Access_Scripts. None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that can read Vcards so I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my MicroSD card, into SHR? this is unlikely to work for the time being I suspect. I know it is possible to transfer contacts to a 2008.12 distro with the qtopia/x11 stack because I have done it, and with a few thoughts i could write a how to but :-/ Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
Lorn Potter wrote: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended That's very sad. :( *resists the urge to shout very loud abuse* -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)
Hallo Sebastian, is it possible that cellhunter requests the gsm resource and eventuelly asks for the pin, so that i don't have to run zhone all the time? Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: There are many creative commons licenses, some are permit commercial use, some don't. If you go one click further, you'd discover that the said Creative Commons licence chosed by OpenCellID is : http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ So it should be ok for openbmap guys. That could explain the thing about merging both databases. Any official insight on this? I've been collecting cell information for a few weeks, with some home-made script, and I'd like to know where I should commit them to. Please please forgive me if I'm wrong. I put my hand up and say I am not an expert in this area and COULD BE WRONG. opencellid has A LOT of data for the UK. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if this was all the towers. Due to a load of people being scared of phone masts and radiation etc, the uk body in charge of radio stuff etc. OFCOM, made available on this website: http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/ pretty much all the locations of all the cell towers... I'm not sure how that information is licenced.. I have seen discussions about this before I think but I can't remember where... it could have been OSM related. Obviously the issue would be opencellid integrating unclearls licenced data. Before you reply: STOP. As I said before, I may well be wrong! Happy Hacking, Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Pidgin Facebook plugin :: troubleshoot arm problems...
Hi there, I'm on 2008.12 += Kustomizer and I have just got pidgin working. On my desktop I use a hackish pidgin plugin to use facebook chat via pidgin. The website is here: http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/ There is a version built for arm: http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/downloads/detail?name=libfacebookarm-1.47.so but I get the feeling it is arm5 because the moment one starts to use it pidgin crashes because of illegal instruction The only reason I attempted to use the prebuilt version is because I had such a touch time trying to get the right things installed to be able to build my own (I'm not experienced at doing this!) Has anyone got any ideas? Tim howto install it: http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/wiki/How_To_Install Crash log below: (18:18:42) jabber: xmlParseChunk returned error 100 (18:18:46) util: Writing file accounts.xml to directory /home/root/.purple (18:18:46) util: Writing file /home/root/.purple/accounts.xml (18:18:46) util: Writing file blist.xml to directory /home/root/.purple (18:18:46) util: Writing file /home/root/.purple/blist.xml (18:19:02) jabber: jabber_actions: have pep: NO (18:19:02) account: Connecting to account someuser (18:19:02) connection: Connecting. gc = 0x4b4fa0 (18:19:02) facebook: sending request headers: POST /login.php HTTP/1.0 Host: login.facebook.com Connection: close User-Agent: Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded Content-length: 121 Accept: */* Cookie: isfbe=false;test_cookie=1; (18:19:02) dns: DNS query for 'login.facebook.com' queued (18:19:02) dns: DNS query for 'login.facebook.com' queued (18:19:02) dns: Created new DNS child 1447, there are now 1 children. (18:19:02) dns: Successfully sent DNS request to child 1447 (18:19:02) dns: Created new DNS child 1448, there are now 2 children. (18:19:02) dns: Successfully sent DNS request to child 1448 (18:19:02) dns: Got response for 'login.facebook.com' (18:19:02) dnsquery: IP resolved for login.facebook.com (18:19:02) facebook: updating cache of dns addresses (18:19:02) facebook: Host login.facebook.com has IP 69.63.180.173 (18:19:02) dns: Got response for 'login.facebook.com' (18:19:02) dnsquery: IP resolved for login.facebook.com (18:19:02) proxy: Attempting connection to 69.63.180.173 (18:19:02) proxy: Connecting to login.facebook.com:443 with no proxy (18:19:02) proxy: Connection in progress (18:19:03) proxy: Connected to login.facebook.com:443. (18:19:03) gnutls: Starting handshake with login.facebook.com (18:19:03) gnutls: Handshake complete (18:19:03) gnutls/x509: Key print: 52:6c:34:5c:4d:f6:11:d3:27:04:af:a8:ae:8e:71:a6:98:57:45:e3 (18:19:03) gnutls: Peer provided 1 certs (18:19:03) gnutls: Lvl 0 SHA1 fingerprint: 52:6c:34:5c:4d:f6:11:d3:27:04:af:a8:ae:8e:71:a6:98:57:45:e3 (18:19:03) gnutls: Serial: 05:1b:4c (18:19:03) gnutls: Cert DN: C=US,O=login.facebook.com,OU=GT04482452,OU=See www.geotrust.com/resources/cps (c)06,OU=Domain Control Validated - QuickSSL(R),CN=login.facebook.com (18:19:03) gnutls: Cert Issuer DN: C=US,O=Equifax Secure Inc.,CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1 (18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Starting verify for login.facebook.com (18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Checking for cached cert... (18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: ...Found cached cert (18:19:03) gnutls: Attempting to load X.509 certificate from /home/root/.purple/certificates/x509/tls_peers/login.facebook.com (18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Peer cert matched cached (18:19:03) certificate: Successfully verified certificate for login.facebook.com (18:19:03) facebook: post_or_get_ssl_connect_cb (18:19:04) gnutls: receive failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. (18:19:04) facebook: ssl error, but data received. attempting to continue (18:19:04) facebook: response headers HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:21:59 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.41.fb1 Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT Cache-Control: private, no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0 Pragma: no-cache P3P: CP=HONK Set-Cookie: datr=1235154119-0ced3018d903912eaeafc91216d086a44662bde3bb464d7d71fc5; expires=Thu, 21-May-2009 18:21:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; httponly Set-Cookie: test_cookie=1; path=/; domain=.facebook.com Set-Cookie: login=+; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; httponly Set-Cookie: login_x=a%3A2%3A%7Bs%3A5%3A%22email%22%3Bs%3A15%3A%22someuser%22%3Bs%3A19%3A%22remember_me_default%22%3Bb%3A1%3B%7D; expires=Tue, 16-Jun-2009 12:08:39 GMT; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; httponly Set-Cookie: reg_fb_gate=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.facebook.com%2Flogin.php; path=/; domain=.facebook.com Set-Cookie: reg_fb_ref=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.facebook.com%2Flogin.php; path=/; domain=.facebook.com Set-Cookie: test_cookie=1; path=/; domain=.facebook.com Set-Cookie: login=+; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; httponly Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 snip ... ... (18:18:42
Re: [need tester] Voicenote - record voice notes
kimaidou wrote: Hi all I spend the day creating a small zenity + bash application wich records the sound from the built-in freerunner microphone into a wav file. YAY! I've been hoping for something like this for a while. :D On 2008.12 + Kustomizer 0.3: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/package s/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk -force-depends Downloading http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root... Installing libgnomecanvas-2-0 (2.20.0-r0) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libgnomecanvas-2-0_2.20.0-r0_armv4t.opk Installing libgailutil18 (1.20.0-r0) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libgailutil18_1.20.0-r0_armv4t.opk Installing libart-lgpl-2-2 (2.3.19-r2) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libart-lgpl-2-2_2.3.19-r2_armv4t.opk Configuring libart-lgpl-2-2 Configuring libgailutil18 Configuring libgnomecanvas-2-0 Configuring zenity r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install voicenote_0.1_arm.ipk Installing voicenote (0.1) to root... Configuring voicenote r...@om-gta02:~# ls ### Software launched and run from GUI 24948-0.zip kustomizer Applications kustomizer_messages.log FB_samplebook.txt packages Settings playlists backuprec-2009-02-19-23-37.wav - RECORDED file bkupapplications voicenote_0.1_arm.ipk fr_bind r...@om-gta02:~# The UI isn't pretty or intuitive, there is no where to set options but for v0.1 it works fine! :D Well done and thank you! Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Will software patents stop us having multitouch?
I recently came across this blog post which, interesting explains that the Android G1 is *capable* of multitouch but chose not to use it for some reason - some suggest, for fear of litigation from Apple. http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/2009/01/30/what-does-that-two-finger-gesture-mean/ I don't live in the USA so it may not be such an issue for me but it could still cause problems for Openmoko... What are your thoughts? Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Conference] FOSDEM 09 - who is going?
Biggest F/LOSS conference in Europe is happening in a few weeks time... Who is going? It'd be great to put names to mailing list faces, meet people doing cool things with their devices and help people who are feeling a bit stuck get started. I'm going; this will be my first FOSDEM. Cheers Tim P.S. I know some OM community members have strong opinions about FOSDEM (which I somewhat sympathise with) and if you want to chat about the political bits, please fork the thread. :) -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and GPRS?
Steffen Winkler wrote: Hi, is it possible to use GPRS with the current FDOM image? I don't know :-/ I have been trying for a while... I'm not sure whether it is the software versions and bugs, phone network doing silly things or the stupid user stopping it working. If yes: Is there a GUI or do I have to adjust the config files by hand? You need to adjust the config files by hand.You can start it from GUI from the services panel, once it is configured. If I've to adjust the config files by hand, is there a howto? (which files and what do I've to edit there) I don't think so. I've been looking for a modern OM 2008.XX GPRS howto for a long time and none exist really as far as I know. Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner LightSaber
kris Occhipinti wrote: I forgot to mention the need for pygame. I'm still running om2008.9 and I installed pygame like this g iopkg install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/python/python-pygame_1.7.1-ml2_armv4t.ipk If you have pygame installed it should work, I'll look into the pygame.error: No available audio device and installing pygame should brick your distro. installing pygame bricks 2008.9? *is in the process of doing it anyway* Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer
Giovanni wrote: Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? Not persoanlly but there are daemons/scripts that do this properly... search headphone script openmoko 2008 or something...? I know FDOM testing includes the script to do this. Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems running pidgin
Florian Lherbette wrote: Are other people having issues with pidgin ? No idea, I'm not on 2008.12 but do you think you could run the output from pidgin -d that way we may be able to get a better sense whats going on :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer
Giovanni wrote: I installed both the media players (Om and Qtopia). I'm not able to use any of them. Try playing a .ogg instead of .mp3? Have you bee trying .mp3s? Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: macfuse and freerunner
Michele Renda wrote: Hello Il 17/12/2008 21:05, Boštjan Jerko ha scritto: I can ssh to Freerunner from Mac OSX, but I'd like to mount directories over ssh. Which sshd server are you using on Freerunner? If it is dropbear the problem is that dropbrear seem to be not supporting ssh mount. You have to switch OpenSSH. I can use sshfs on ubuntu intrepid with dropbear on the freerunner (FDOM) I think macfuse is the same theory/same code so :-/ maybe use the -v flag to show us some verbose output... Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
Ok, since I asked, I'll answer too. Tim Dobson wrote: What phone is in your pocket right now? none. My Freerunner is on a lanyard round my neck though. What distro is it running? Why? FDOM (latest 'stable' image) Because I don't like installing applications if I can help it. I find installing applications (and hacking the installs) a quick way to nuke your install. What do you use your phone for the most? Sending text messages What distros have you tried? (not very recently) 2007.2, 2008.8 (possibly 2008.9 as well), Qtopia (briefly) What other portable consumer electronics do you use on a regular basis? A nokia 3310 as an alarm clock and phone book. (I realise FDOM does both of these, but I easily oversleep, so I set reminders on the phone every 2 minutes after the initial alarm and the qtopia-x11 doesn't seem to let me move contacts from isntall to install easily :-/ ) Who in the community, after yourself, deserves praise for their achievements which might otherwise go unnoticed? The people who hack away on uncool programs, do things they may not enjoy but provide the necessary infrastructure for everyone else to do the things they want. What is the most pointless application on the Freerunner? Obviously OpenMooCow does the least useful thing, but it still brings a smile to your face, probably The GIMP running in debian on the freerunner was what I thought was the most pointless thing, however, I could be very wrong there and I for one would be interested in seeing the FR work as a graphics tablet.. What is the most interesting thing you have seen the Freerunner used for? A vibrator is the funniest hack I have seen... The starmap, orrey, is one of the most innovative ideas the the potential Doom and DukeNukem3d have shown (even with less than ideal situations with graphics drivers) for 1 first person acceerometer control FPS is amazing. I could go on... In the future I want to use it as my Personal Music Player, but I trod on one of the ear phones and it broke and haven't got round to getting some more yet :( Which is your favourite Freerunner joke? Q: What's the difference between a Freerunner and a brick? A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls. Though, to be honest, this hasn't been my experience of it really, I use it as my phone every day! -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about Openmoko
Sargun Dhillon wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, mike wmichaeltr...@yahoo.com wrote: ok, with all the old smartphones going on sale unlocked for as low as $99-$149, how soon can i buy a moko for $99 (i'd prolly take three) Those are subsidized prices. Sometimes you can get them used for $99. I never buy used phones as they usually are broken. Umm It's not too hard to work out actually. For the Neo 1973: Find 3 current owners who aren't using it and make them an offer. For the Neo Freerunner: Wait til GTAv3 is released and then watch as the price of second hand Freerunners plummet as all the developers and hackers upgrade... For better or for worse, they all will. there's community for you. Well... there's the answer. Don't ask me when GTAv3 will be released though... :p Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
Marc Bantle wrote: Question 1 Are you willing to talk about marketing figures? How many devices have been sold. Freerunner? Neo 1973? Other (OEM) Hardware provided by Openmoko? That's a good question I hadn't thought of, I'd love to hear some details on that :) -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
Yorick Moko wrote: *do you use the FR? As your daily phone? Why not? Which distro do you prefer? Which app is your favorite? What phone is in your pocket right now? What distro is it running? Why? What do you use your phone for the most? What distros have you tried? What other portable consumer electronics do you use on a regular basis? Who in the community, after yourself, deserves praise for their achievements which might otherwise go unnoticed? What is the most pointless application on the Freerunner? What is the most interesting thing you have seen the Freerunner used for? Which is your favourite Freerunner joke? :D Tim P.s. anyone else feel free to fork thread and give their own point of view on these questions, it is interesting anyone giving their opinions! -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
Al Johnson wrote: Only some 3G SIMs are problematic (bug #666), and that seems to have been fixed with the recent gsm firmware update. It now works for my O2 UK SIM anyway. It does? I'll have to check that out! Thanks for the heads up! (I moved from Orange UK to O2 because of this bug.) -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I realy like them
drac2000 wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p That's awesome. I pledge 10,000 imaginary internet lulz to the first person to come up with a *funny* joke where openmoko/the freerunner isn't the butt of the joke.. :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] ePDFViewer
Crossposted to Fdom-developement Giovanni wrote: Today I installed FDOM 20081023. When I open ePDFViewer, it asks for a password, saying that the documented is encrypted. I cannot open any of my documents, because of this problem. this is a bug I have been meaning to report for a while now. How to fix this? The issue arises because I think the launching dialog launches it with an %s argument or something which specifies the path of the file that should be loaded. because it apparently can't deal with no being able to find the file gracefully, it aassumes something is encrypted and asks for a password. Launching from the terminal epdfviewer works fine... fixing this *should* (in theory) be trivial, however I don't know, without looking exactly how to do this... Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
David Samblas wrote: El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió: Count with an Spanish translation in short too :) I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions... you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough? When I get some more free time, I'll see what I can do. originally it was used for an event where other people were presenting the different distributions (and in their cases saying why it wasn't their main phone) so in context it didn't look so harsh on them but I do take your point. At the moment (always actually) my life is really busy, and I can't see when I will have time, but when I will do my best :) tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Wolfgang, hopefully you didn't miss Tim's post, sounds promising :) As do the other offers of help. I'd just really like to get documentation out into the wild. I understand that performance is unlikely to ever be better than what we have currently. However, if the Haiku or ReactOS folks ever want to port to the GTA02, I'm sure they'd appreciate documentation so they don't have to burrow through our code (as much). If at some time in the future, a rare bug is encountered and OpenMoko is focused on GTA07, documentation might provide a crucial hint to interested developers tracking down the bug. You get the idea... It's just nice to have. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless we want a closed source driver, I don't think that would work. Reading between the lines on the Tungsten Graphics website. it looks to me that they have one core graphics driver, that they keep porting to whatever chip they are asked to write a driver for, so in each case the core engine stays the same and only the hardware specific stuff gets changed. If this is the case, I doubt they would be willing to produce a GPL driver, as that would require them either to publish the source of their entire engine, or to write a new one. They've done much of the open source graphics driver development for Intel. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me link back to one of my Weekly Engineering News (back when they were still weekly, ahem - I am working hard to get this good discipline back!) http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td837114 We looked at several options, OIN, patent-commons, peertopatent. In the end we decided to collaborate with the Software Freedom Law Center in New York. We believe this is most in line with the goals of the Openmoko project, and will have the best long-term results. I cannot speak about details yet, the SFLC and Sean are working on this. I think next year, with regards to patents the results from that will be one of the more important developments for Openmoko and maybe even the larger Free Software scene. Excellent. I'd missed that. Thank you very much for pointing it out! :D --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to not trust high-level promises as much as before. In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore. Either it's open and documented at the time we make the decision to use those chips, or we look elsewhere. I believe that's what our customers want. Agreed, and awesome. We have a long way to go to come out with kick-ass open phone hardware, but if our community doesn't loose faith and continues to do development together with us, we'll get there. The momentum we have built with the Freerunner is awesome. Please continue to buy Freerunners and to develop for it, same is happening internally. The next phones will build on top of the free platform we have built together, the technology investment will carry over. *crosses fingers and hopes* Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to you. In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not sure how much actual codes have come out of that. I think very little ;-) So we need some really serious coders that don't mind a tough challenge. I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to organize, and participate in a traditional clean room re-implementation of the documentation. As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to not trust high-level promises as much as before. In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore. Either it's open and documented at the time we make the decision to use those chips, or we look elsewhere. I believe that's what our customers want. I read in the development list archive a big discussion about whether customers/enduser/developers would accept non-free bits to things like the wifi. I didn't subscribe because the list is very developer orientated so I don't know what the end result was, however I hope, in light of this thread, someone can reveal it ended favourably. :) We have a long way to go to come out with kick-ass open phone hardware, but if our community doesn't loose faith and continues to do development together with us, we'll get there. The momentum we have built with the Freerunner is awesome. Please continue to buy Freerunners and to develop for it, same is happening internally. The next phones will build on top of the free platform we have built together, the technology investment will carry over. Keep doing what you are doing, there are problems, there will continue to be problems... lets not get demoralised but look forward to GTA 3 (do what you can but try not to let my hair turn grey first! ;) ) and if anything can be done about the glamo chip by engaging smedia, I would love openmoko to give it a try. :) If there is anything people who aren't skilled developers, who have no money(!), can do other than what we are already doing, please let us know. :) Finally, thanks for engaging with the community it's nice to get some feedback even if it isn't all good news[1]. Cheers Tim [1] I *would* be really interested to know Openmoko's original projected sales figures for GTA02 and current sales so far! I guess this probably isn't possible but nobody gets hurt asking! -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place.. _All_ software risks such lawsuits. Software patents are so over-broad, vaguely worded, impenetrably incomprehensible to normal folk, and numerous that _no significant work is safe._ _Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other software is delusional. A well stocked portfolio of patents is no thread to a troll - they sell no products vulnerable to injunctions. The only threat a patent troll understands is a well funded group of researchers and lawyers ready and willing to spend millions of dollars and years of effort to invalidate their prized patent. Fortunately, such things _do_ exist. I suggest OpenMoko search for, and solicit help from any they may find. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I said as much as anyone can know these days. It just can't be repeated enough. Many people still don't understand cost - to the community as well as companies - of the ongoing situation of software patents. In fact... if OpenMoko could make as much information available as possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity, lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action among the community. We all know software patents are bad, but few of us feel as though we are affected by them on a regular basis. Show people they _are_ affected, and I think they will respond. Who knows... maybe you'll even sell some more phones :) --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Paul wrote: Tim Dobson wrote: Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. Fantastic!! I have my own 'freerunner experience' webpage, is it okay if I link to your PDF-presentation from there? You can do anything you want with it under the Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0 licence. Linking is fine! :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. It wasn't very good, but it got a message across - a message that a Freerunner + FDOM = a smartphone that worked as a smartphone. Today, I sat down and went through the presentation, improved it a bit, and put it more into the style I like to do presentations in. :) You can find my improved presentation, available under CC-BY-SA 3.0 at: http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/openmokopresentation1.2.odp http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/openmokopresentation1.2.pdf My apologies to the developers and users of anything which isn't FDOM, you guys do an amazing job on your projects and I don't give you enough credit. I'm sorry. Keep on innovating and doing cool stuff! :) Cheers Tim P.S. My original presentation and other things can be found at http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/ [1] http://manchester.fsuk.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I will try to make a pt_PT translation. Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at: http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/ Wow! This has really made my day! :D Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating! Tim P.S. I added your translation to http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/ -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any hope for bug #666?
JC Denton wrote: Hi, is there any new info / progress on bug #666 ( http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the trac/wiki? That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most likely wont work with my O2 sim. I have tried at least 2 designs and 3 O2 UK sim cards in it. none worked. Subsequently I moved to Orange UK. Not any difference in prices really... but it works nicely... Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Determine Distro?
Dale Maggee wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool
to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to
determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.
I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to
find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?
cat /etc/om-version will tell you which branch of code you're running
(eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.? FDOM} or fso / shr - qtopia
probably also has one of these?
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[FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.'
Hi All, I've been using FDOM on my Freerunner as my primary phone for a
couple of weeks now- it's all working nicely except that I am unable to
install some applications.
I have not touched the contents of /etc/opkg since flashing FDOM 20081023
opkg update hits downloads.openmoko.org/respository/2008.8 (daily-
{armv4t, gta02}etc)
opkg install pidgin (or links, htop)
So my questions are: What's happened for opkg to give a return 2? And
where should my /etc/opkg/*conf files be pointing?
Regards,
Tim
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Re: QtExtended call forwarding
I'm sitting here playing with QtExtended right now and see that the call forwarding settings has a phone number filled out already. The phone number is 191742004 with the last two numbers being 98 (broke up the number, so google doesn't index it). Does anyone know what this is about? Just had a look at mine, it is automatically set to the voicemail of my carrier (+61411000212 - Virgin Australia) Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit?
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I installed the kobodeluxe game for the kid, but we cant figure out how to exit it :( Even if you go through 5 new lives and get the menu, hitting quit with a stylus just takes you back into the game. Ended up removing the battery. How? IIRC tap at the top of the screen moves menu selection up, tapping at the bottom moves it down and tapping in the middle accepts the current menu item. If you try to treat it as a point-and-click app by tapping Quit you end up accepting new game instead. Took me a while to work that one out, usually after accidentally starting it when I was trying to scroll through the Applications menu! Yeah. the four corners of the screen and then the centre of the screen are 5 different buttons trial and error mens you eventually work out which is which :) -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Very interested onlooker
Minh Ha Duong wrote: I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. It should be possible to run Abiword on Debian's distro. I run FDOM (2008.9) - depending on what you need to do text editing is possible and it is there :) -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Suggestions for FDOM
For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other than the Qtopia image and can tell me how to do it, I'll have a go (or if they want to have a go themselves I can provide the sources) - but I don't have the spare time to experiment with the build systems to get something that works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
My Suggestions for FDOM
Hi there, I've just moved to FDOM and I love it. I have a few ideas to make it better - these aren't criticisms - it's great at the moment - these are just ideas to make it better - I don't expect anyone to agree about all of them, but these are suggestions... # Midori(with the settings tweaked) is better for the screensize than minimo - I find it more usable # accel-rotate program, or a way to start/stop it - this is a simple script to use the accelerometers to rotate with xrandr. It seems quite stable. An ipkg is available - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Rotate When I was running 22007.2, two cool programs I had from Angstrom were: # Quasar - a x11 mplayer front end. This is not perfect for the freerunner - it ideally needs some UI work doing (more than just setting tweaking), especially on it's fonts, however, i have launched mpg QVGA videos with it and watched them as well as listening to music with it. # Claws Mail A lightweight mail client - with a bit of UI tweaking from the view menu makes a completely usable mail client. Since we have qmail, I guess this is not necessary, but it's a thought. # FBreader? I would love to see an ebook reader but I think there are big dependency issues here :( # Games Personally, I would prefer to get rid of sudoku and to possibly to get kobodeluxe on there. Though not ready yet, keeping an eye on http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/accelgame might be good. # lint-wifi Personally, I prefer lint-wifi to mofi. I really like being able to see the network info it displays (ie IP, DNS DDHCP) as it helps troubleshooting stuff when things dont work :P http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi # wpa_supplicant.conf Possibly modify the default the wpa_supplicant.conf to automatically connect to unencrypted wifi hotspots? :-/ I can't help too much - my stupid OM setup script - (givemeteh)apppznow is pretty much obsolete as a result of FDOM :) so I will help in the ways I can. I have joined the development list and considering all the spare high speed bandwidth I have, I've set up a mirror - http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fadom/ At some point soon I'll get rid of the 'a' in fadom :P Cheers for the good work, keep it up! :D Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT keyboards with FR?
not at that price! :-) Jeff Sadowski wrote: You mean none of you have the http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ Laser projected keyboard? Would it work? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT keyboards with FR?
I've bought a freedom universal, and so far no dice connecting either to the phone or to an ubuntu pc :-( http://timwise.wikispaces.com/freedom+universal+keyboard no joy from their support either, looks like they are still stuck in the dark ages. --- Original Message Subject: [#]: can't connect under linux Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:41:38 + From: Paul Bowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Tim, Unfortunately the open source nature of Linux is the reason we can't provide technical support for it. While at the core it is all basically the same, the number of possible combination's of hardware/software setup for Linux based systems means that it is not possible to provide support. Once more devices start running Linux distros (which is starting to happen as you say) then it will become easier to support them. Looking at what you have on your site one possible silly thing to say is after you enter the passkey on your device enter it onto the keyboard and then press enter (also on the keyboard). The keyboard in HID mode has no set passkey and it is normally set at the same time as you pair it. Kind Regards, Paul Bowles Technical Manager Ticket Details Ticket ID: Department: Freedom Universal Keyboard² Priority: High Status: Answered If I don't get past this it's going in the bin / back to the reseller / on ebay. I haven't tried their suggestion yet as I've been away, and I am now busy upgrading my freerunner to the latest build. hope that helps Tim Abell - Ben Holt wrote: I am considering buying a portable BT keyboard to go with my FreeRunner and would appreciate hearing from anyone who is already using a BT keyboard and can comment on how well it is working and what keyboard you have. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated :-). Many thanks, - Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0. Have you looked here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian touchscreen (pointercal) help
I have debian installed on the freerunner and have installed xorg (along with xfce4 and gdm) and xserver-xorg-input-tslib but cannot get the touchscreen calibrated. I have tried both options from the manual debian wiki but have had no luck. It seems to use only the top left of the screen (about a 1/3rd) . Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD slot + suspend
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having trouble with my SD card ever since I upgraded my kernel (with the unstable feed) and turned on suspend... specifically, it got wiped out :( It is a know bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Some fixes are here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?
I ordered 3 shields the 19th of July No shipping confirmation yet I only received an order conformation not a shipping confirmation but my shield arrived yesterday. Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video on Freerunner?
Leonti wrote: Here is the page describing how to play videos on Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player So I have some questions: Did anyone tried to transcode videos on the Freerunner itself? For example: go to youtube - download video to sd card - transcode it to the needed format(how long does it take, by the way) - watch it? Is it useable? Does someone watch videos often on the freerunner? Are there any new developments for the video playback sinse that wiki page is updated? you tube video are possible on the free runner. though not instantly... on your home computer install clive and configure it to transcode flv to mpg then copy across and use mplayer and quasar from the angstrom repositories to play. (tested on 2007.4) Sorry, i don't really have a better answer... it works. but is far from perfect... -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Opie-Reader qpk for the Qtopia distro
I've got Qtopia working off my SD card now so I can do some more testing. I added a little bit of gesture support so you can do page up/down by stroking up/down the screen, zoom in/out by stroking right/left, and then the four diagonal directions do back/forward/beginning/end but I can't remember which is which ATM - I'll sort it all out better when I have a better handle on how to make it work on the Freerunner. You can also map the power button to page down (or any of the mappable functions) which makes it much more bearable to use. There seems to be some funnies in the way it interacts with qtopia - especially on first start-up and in combo-boxes but it is reasonably usable if you just want to read books but I don't think it is feed ready, yet. But Lorn has permission to put it up there anytime he wants to. The qtopia qpk is in the same place, but the ASU version is still awaiting me having the time to work out how to compile qtopia apps for ASU. I may have some spare time this weekend to give it another go. 2008/8/21 undrwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tim, I enjoyed opie-reader on the Zaurus...look forward to it on the Freerunner! I've been eagerly anticipating someone building a reader! Thanks bunches...hope it's ASU capable soon. Russell -undrwater Tim Wentford wrote: If it proves popular enough, and I can't get a build environment working, I'll go back to Qtopia again and sort it out. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Opie-Reader-qpk-for-the-Qtopia-distro-tp729655p741197.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Opie-Reader qpk for the Qtopia distro
I've had at least one report that it is at least usable and working reasonably well so it is probably worth adding to the feed - it seems to be at least good enough to read a few ebooks with and I'll make it all a bit nicer when I get a chance. 2008/8/17 Tim Wentford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course you can add it to the feed (the Greenphone was the original test environment, after all 8^). But check it works first It is pretty much optimised for the Greenphone ATM, other than I flipped the flag to use screen touches for navigation so it is usable. Does the touch and hold right mouse button emulation work on the Freerunner? If not, it'll be painful swapping mouse actions to select navigation links, and then swapping back for page up/down etc. If it proves popular enough, and I can't get a build environment working, I'll go back to Qtopia again and sort it out. 2008/8/17 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tim Wentford wrote: I've used the Qtopia SDK to build an Opie-Reader package for the Qtopia image since it is the only SDK I can get working ATM. Now that Opie seems fairly irrelevant to the Freerunner I've renamed Opie-Reader to ArriereGo (thanks to Guylhem Aznar for the new name suggestion). I'm persisting with the 2008.08 image ATM since I am using my Greenphone as an actual phone, and I'm hoping to actually be able to build a QT app for 2008.08 one day, so I have no way of testing the current build, though a previous build did work. Could the first person to try it please reply to this thread with a confirmation of success or failure. You can get it at: http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/ArriereGo_1.0.0-2_arm.qpk It defaults to using screen taps for page up/down/back/home/forward with the screen divided up like: UUU BHF DDD Where U is page-up (i.e. top third of screen, etc), B is back, H is home, F is forward and D is page down. If it doesn't work, and I don't get enough spare time to get a working SDK for QT apps under 2008.08, I'll go back to Qtopia and fix it so let me know. Would it be ok for me to add this to the feed at qtopia.net? That way people can install it without having to setup a local web server . -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
