Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread gerald
At 07:44 PM 2/6/2009, you wrote: Over time people have gotten better at working together in an organized if imperfect fashion. The cons/neocons call that big government. neocons want democracy but in the name of democracy their incompetence and religion beliefs have created anarcy.

[CGUYS] tomtom 510 died

2009-02-07 Thread gerald
sorry to interupt, but this really is computer related: my wife's tomtom 510 died a slow death. she tried to add a feature, and the only map that showed up was Guam(apparently a common problem). after she spent the day with it she gave up and called and got through to tomtom tech support. they

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Many of us religious types do not identify with their so-called religious beliefs. They claim religious underpinning but are not really religious. (Many folks who claim some religious belief are not truly active in churches. For every 100 who claim a church, only 40 really attend.) Stewart

Re: [CGUYS] tomtom 510 died

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There should be a way for her to restore the maps on her Tom Tom. When I first got mine I hooked up and did a backup of the TomTom with TomTom and my system at home. Did she do this? The interface on the Computer should allow her to do a restore or something similar. (TomTom Home) Stewart

[CGUYS] OS X trojan

2009-02-07 Thread mike
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/19859/P50/ There is a link in that article to the fix in case anyone is interested. I know no one on this list would need it of course...but perhaps you have some mac friends who think their machines are bullet proof and are in need of it.

Re: [CGUYS] OS X trojan

2009-02-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
I amazes me, though it probably should not, that people get hit by stuff like this. This sort of Trojan requires three layers of stupidity - first you have to download pirated software, then fail to thoroughly scan it, then you have to give pirated software admin authority to install.

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
As opposed to the world wide good liberal activists and supporters of liberation have done over the years. Pot, kettle, kettle, pot. Have fun knocking heads. Matthew On Feb 7, 2009, at 8:52 AM, gerald wrote: At 07:44 PM 2/6/2009, you wrote: Over time people have gotten better at working

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Until very recently in our history few Americans would assume that if they failed at something government would back them up. This is plainly false. Going back 1000s of years history shows us people working together in an organized if

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: And a principle enabler of that opportunity was a people unshackled by restraining government and class structures, free to make the most those opportunities through hard work. This is the concept of everyman as noble savage. No, this is the

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Jordan
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many of us religious types do not identify with their so-called religious beliefs. They claim religious underpinning but are not really religious. Hence, the ironic speculations during the Bush years about who would Jesus torture or what would Jesus drive. Maybe

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Never said otherwise. Part of the problem with America and religion is that we have usually mixed up civil and religious righteousness. My faith group has always recognized a separation of the two. Christians who undercut and say you cant be as righteous as I am often are mixing up the two.

[CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Mike Sloane
I have an office with an 8-port Ethernet router on a broadband cable connection. I have been requested the ability to provide some wireless capability temporarily (for outside auditors). I have a spare 4-port wired/wireless Linksys broadband router, and I was wondering if I could daisy-chain

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have an office with an 8-port Ethernet router on a broadband cable connection. I have been requested the ability to provide some wireless capability temporarily (for outside auditors). I have a spare 4-port wired/wireless Linksys broadband router, and I was wondering if I could daisy-chain

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
No, this is the concept of the rights of man. That man is not a subject of a king bound to a station by birth, but responsible for their own destiny - imperfect, often selfish, but endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
Given that American history is fairly recent, what value is there in going back 1000's of years Wow, jingoism in the extreme. History started some 200 years ago and nothing else counts. All I can do is sputter in disbelief. Why do you appear to assume that only government can serve as an

[CGUYS] Defrag or optimize OS 10.4 ?

2009-02-07 Thread db
I hear yays and nays about the need or wisdom in defragging or optimized OSX 10.4 hard drives? What's the collective thought here... and if so are there any free utilities for such? db * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Defrag or optimize OS 10.4 ?

2009-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I hear yays and nays about the need or wisdom in defragging or optimized OSX 10.4 hard drives? For normal files, OS X defrags as it goes. It won't defrag very large files (I don't know the threshold), but defragging is not the most efficient way to handle very large files. What problem are

Re: [CGUYS] Defrag or optimize OS 10.4 ?

2009-02-07 Thread mike
I thought it was 20 megs was the threshold? Not sure where I saw that, anyone can confirm? If that is, 20 is not large at all. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I hear yays and nays about the need or wisdom in defragging or optimized OSX 10.4 hard drives? For

[CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread John Emmerling
When buying a new computer, how can you tell whether it will come with the Windows installation disk? When I bought a computer from a screwdriver shop, it had an installation disk, which proved handy. I also bought an eMachines computer which didn't have it. Fortunately the need never arose. I

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Most wireless routers can be set up to act as an Access point only and do no routing. This would be the preferred setting along with security WPA TKIP Along with the caveats that Tom and others mentioned it is not that difficult. Plug router in from port on hub to wan on router. Get into

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Two things you can do. Read very carefully the attached literature. Very often will say comes with media. Also consider the companies you buy from. Compaq/Hp may or may not include hard copies with computers. My wife's Compaq laptop did not. My Dell (and her new Dell ) did. Some of what

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread b_s-wilk
As opposed to the world wide good liberal activists and supporters of liberation have done over the years. Where did this happen? The liberators I recall are mostly the cons overthrowing popularly elected governments in places like Iran [at least twice], Chile, Australia, Honduras, Cuba

Re: [CGUYS] Defrag or optimize OS 10.4 ?

2009-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I thought it was 20 megs was the threshold? Not sure where I saw that, anyone can confirm? If that is, 20 is not large at all. I have seen that on discussion lists, but not in any official source. OS X uses several means to fight fragmentation so maybe just focusing on defragging is missing

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread Steve at Verizon
I know about Lenovo. No Windows install disk, but they come with a utility to burn restore disks from which you can rebuild your windows system. I.e. on a replaced or reformatted HD. Also, the Microcenter PowerSpec systems I've had (including present one) don't have one, but do include a DVD

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Mike Sloane
The office in question is our local little municipal building http://www.allamuchynj.org and the Ethernet wiring and router are only used for access to the Internet (Comcast gave us a free port in exchange for renewing their charter) - none of the individual PCs are set up for sharing - they

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is one of the reasons I like Dells. You get a disk for each thing installed on the system (except stuff you normally download) You get a windows disk, Works (if it came or office if you chose that) The Power DVD software, one with drivers etc. With my wife's laptop I ordered a

Re: [CGUYS] Defrag or optimize OS 10.4 ?

2009-02-07 Thread mike
Yeah I hear that, DW is a great app. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: However I have noticed that using Disk Warrior to rebuild the disk's *directory* does speed things up (sometimes a lot) and is much faster than defragging. -- Make sure you support

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Mike Sloane
OK, I agree that I need to turn off DHCP on the slave router and give it a different ID from the master. But now you are suggesting that I go from the WAN port on the wired/wireless slave to an in port on the router. While that sounds logical, I am wondering if the electronics on the WAN port

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Fred Holmes
You can certainly cascade routers. My grandkids have done it at their house. I provided a wired router as a hardware firewall for the one computer in the house a long time ago. Then I bought my granddaughter a Lenovo notebook. She got a wireless router and plugged into a downstream port on

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
No. First off it is a switching port so knows how to handle the traffic. The output port on the hub will send a signal to the wan port on the router which is an IN port. When you turn it into an AP . It turns the hub part off thereby turning those ports off on it. A hub essentially

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread Fred Holmes
Screwdriver shops and vendors at the MarketPro shows here in the DC area sell new Dell computers. They come with installation discs for the OS and driver discs, etc. for a from scratch installation to a blank hard drive. At least they do if you ask, and they are quite willing to. If I were

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Mike Sloane wrote: OK, I agree that I need to turn off DHCP on the slave router and give it a different ID from the master. But now you are suggesting that I go from the WAN port on the wired/wireless slave to an in port on the router. While that sounds logical, I am

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread b_s-wilk
Our cheap Compaq notebook didn't have install disks, but has a partition with all the data you need to create restore disks. The HP notebook didn't have install disks, although I think it was because it was the floor model--they lost the box, maybe the disks too. The tech at the store created

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?

2009-02-07 Thread Michael S. Altus
John Emmerling wrote: When buying a new computer, how can you tell whether it will come with the Windows installation disk? When I bought a computer from a screwdriver shop, it had an installation disk, which proved handy. I also bought an eMachines computer which didn't have it. Fortunately

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
Ever heard of liberation theology? Seen the news reports of all the delightful celebrities cozying up to left wing thugs and dictators? Idolizing the Viet Cong and NVA? Worshiping at the feet of the Sandanista's (and Ortega is at it again I hear)? I love the way you and Tom keep calling

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
OK, I agree that I need to turn off DHCP on the slave router and give it a different ID from the master. But now you are suggesting that I go from the WAN port on the wired/wireless slave to an in port on the router. While that sounds logical, I am wondering if the electronics on the WAN port

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Steve at Verizon
Depends if you consider Communists liberal (and before anyone complains that I used those two words in the same sentence, the converse is NOT necessarily the case) Then we have Russia (yes, serfdom was terrible, but Stalin killed 30 million of his own people), China (the glorious Cultural

Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life

2009-02-07 Thread Eric S. Sande
Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. Velvet Revolution, Czechoslovakia. Pretty much the same thing happened in other countries after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Thank you Ronald