[CGUYS] Video capture from internal DVD player

2009-03-24 Thread David Turk
In iMovie, I've been trying to capture some video someone else had burned to DVD. I've tried import, with no luck. I do have a DVD player with a DV output, that lets me capture the video via Firewire. Is it not possible to capture video via internal DVD, thus need to convert using a program

[CGUYS] Windows Media Player Sound - Tourbusrider Followup

2009-03-24 Thread John Settle
What is the status of your WMP and other issues? Have you had any luck? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] Now the Word...

2009-03-24 Thread Fred Holmes
Won't a normal Windows search find it? Maybe that's why I keep using Windows 2000 and have it show all files including system and hidden files. Fred Holmes At 11:29 PM 3/23/2009, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I thought so too, but I had a heck of a time finding it. Stewart At 10:12 PM

[CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Tony B
I expected the same reaction from both my wife and my boss when they were first faced with the new layouts. Oddly, neither of them said a thing to me or even asked my help with anything. In both cases it was months later when I thought to ask them if they were having any trouble and neither were.

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Dunford
I expected the same reaction from both my wife and my boss when they were first faced with the new layouts. Oddly, neither of them said a thing to me or even asked my help with anything. In both cases it was months later when I thought to ask them if they were having any trouble and neither

Re: [CGUYS] Now the Word...

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Probably not because that file (applications) is a protected area on the Hard drive file system. There are many files there that need to be kept Hidden from un aware hands. That is also where Outlook Express keeps it's files. Stewart At 08:19 AM 3/24/2009, you wrote: Won't a normal

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have the conversion tool to load the newer form on my Office 03. I cannot find things I normally tweak and work with in the newer office and just get frustrated with it. It would have been nice if they included a way for those of us who have used word since the DOS days to learn the new

Re: [CGUYS] Best touch typing tutor software for OS X ?

2009-03-24 Thread Jordan
I've tinkered with this a few times. I don't know how good it is compared to anything else, but it does help and it's free. Obviously, the learner has to be online when they are using it. http://sense-lang.org/typing/ db wrote: Does anyone have any experience with the various touch typing

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread db
I have yet to meet a non IT person who doesn't strongly dislike MS's 07 versions. People just want to do their work ... not be forced to slow down to learn something in the process for no good reason. db Tony B wrote: The most complicated thing I had to re-learn was mailings. I even think

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The F1 key is very useful, but remember some of us are trying to be productive, and when you constantly have to hit the F1 key to figure out soemthing that you knew how to do on the old system, it gets old, and frustrating and you get rid of it. Stewart At 10:14 AM 3/24/2009, you wrote: The

Re: [CGUYS] Best touch typing tutor software for OS X ?

2009-03-24 Thread David
I remember using Mavis Beacon (Bacon?) typing tutor when I had to learn - - a whole bunch of years ago.  I see that a Mac version is still available on Amazon. David   - Original Message From: db db...@att.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:05:43 PM

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Fred Holmes
Is this true for _all_ kinds of users, e.g. basic users (produce/edit only simple documents), intermediate users, and advanced users (use all sorts of bells and whistles in the application? Is this true for both folks who spend all day working with Word documents, and those who use Word once a

Re: [CGUYS] Best touch typing tutor software for OS X ?

2009-03-24 Thread rleesimon
my wife got a job at berlitz a while back and it was for reception with typing too ...she did not type ...we went to the used bookstore and got a typing textbook used for $1.00 ...over the weekend, she followed it and arrived Monday with her skills relatively achieved ...cheeep! -Original

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is part of my point. I use Word almost everyday. Some days it is simple edit print. Other days it is a mail merge, envelope addressing. Maybe another day laying out a form etc. I know where to look when I want to do what I want to do. When I went to Office 07 I immediately felt lost.

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Dunford
The F1 key is very useful, but remember some of us are trying to be productive, and when you constantly have to hit the F1 key to figure out soemthing that you knew how to do on the old system, it gets old, and frustrating and you get rid of it. Constantly? That's what I don't get. I used

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Dunford
Is this true for _all_ kinds of users, e.g. basic users (produce/edit only simple documents), intermediate users, and advanced users (use all sorts of bells and whistles in the application? Is this true for both folks who spend all day working with Word documents, and those who use Word once

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player Sound - Tourbusrider Followup

2009-03-24 Thread Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow
Date:Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:44:29 -0400 From:John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com Subject: Windows Media Player Sound - Tourbusrider Followup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the status of your WMP and other

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Fred Holmes
I'd love to have a list of exactly those features of Word that you actually use. Mail Merge? Hanging indents? Tables (with math)? Styles Fine adjustments of line spacing?? . . . . . People object to menus but I find substantially everything within two levels below the main menu, which is

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Wright
I have yet to meet a non IT person who doesn't strongly dislike MS's 07 versions. People just want to do their work ... not be forced to slow down to learn something in the process for no good reason. My experience has been the complete opposite. When I first started rolling it out to staff

Re: [CGUYS] Can time machine backup multiple daisy chained fire

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
I want to install a 1 TB SATA II drive internally in a Leopard G5 on the 2nd onboard SATA controller and use it as the target drive for Time Machine to back up the main drive and 3 HFS+ daisy chained external firewire drives. Is that possible and easily so? Should work with ease. This

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Richard P.
Just curious, what is the experience level and age range for the people who loved the new interface? Richard P. It took me a few weeks to finally track down the problem, event viewer didn't offer any real clues, but while I was troubleshooting, I offered to roll them back to Office 2003.  

Re: [CGUYS] Video capture from internal DVD player

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
In iMovie, I've been trying to capture some video someone else had burned to DVD. I've tried import, with no luck. I do have a DVD player with a DV output, that lets me capture the video via Firewire. Is it not possible to capture video via internal DVD, thus need to convert using a

Re: [CGUYS] Can time machine backup multiple daisy chained fire

2009-03-24 Thread db
The daisy chained drives are 80GB, 160gb and 500GB containing 56GB, 140GB and 121 GB of data respectively. Is that OK? What's the 500GB limit related to ... a proportion of the size of the 1TB backup drive? Does the Time machine 1 TB backup drive have to be empty or can it have some data

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rich Schinnell
check out: http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/default.htm they have a free trial for 15 days, support paypal and it costs $29.95 for a single copy with quantity discounts. Rich I Know, I know, why spend more money to modify office 2007 but either you get into the 21st century or you

Re: [CGUYS] Can time machine backup multiple daisy chained fire

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
The daisy chained drives are 80GB, 160gb and 500GB containing 56GB, 140GB and of data respectively. Is that OK? I should be referring you to the ArithmeticGuys. 56GB + 140GB + 121GB = 317GB What's the 500GB limit related to ... a proportion of the size of the 1TB backup drive? Rule of

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Otherwise folks just stop using it. Or retain their older version. Or switch to Open Office. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
It took me a few weeks to finally track down the problem, event viewer didn't offer any real clues, but while I was troubleshooting, I offered to roll them back to Office 2003. Every single person refused this offer and said that they loved the new interface too much to go back to the old. It is

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2009-03-24 Thread mike
Because Tom reacts before he thinks and obviously thinks everyone is a crook. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.orgwrote: Just so you know, this video is a film transfer from items in our collection, to which we own the rights (although I realize why you're

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2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Just so you know, this video is a film transfer from items in our collection, to which we own the rights (although I realize why you're bringing this up...) OK, if you promise not to tell the bad guys. iMovie assumes that all DVD discs are DRMed. Use Disk Utility to create a disk image file

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread mike
And also interesting...the MS hater is again...hating MS. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: It is interesting that the cheerleaders for this latest interface travesty are the same two people who are always cheerleaders for whatever MS deigns to dish out.

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Careful who you call paleface!!! I am a MSfan boy according to Tom and I dislike them immensely for this change!!! Stewart At 06:58 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote: And also interesting...the MS hater is again...hating MS. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: It is

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Wright
It is interesting that the cheerleaders for this latest interface travesty are the same two people who are always cheerleaders for whatever MS deigns to dish out. I'm sorry that you're having such a tough time with objective reality, Tom. Should I tell them that they're doing it all wrong?

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Here is kind of where you are right and wrong. When they introduced 07 they kind of took 03 off the market so you did not have much of a choice on a paid office suite. A number of states and a few nations are insisting on an open office compatibility that MS has resisted immensely. Corel

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Dunford
A dumb way to do it. Rather a shame that actual users don't agree with you. Must...reeducate...users... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Wright
I am a MSfan boy according to Tom and I dislike them immensely for this change!!! That's the final straw! Turn in your badge and decoder ring at the door. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Wright
Here is kind of where you are right and wrong. And here is where I disagree with you. Corel is now marketing a version of Word Perfect, but that power house has now become a joke of a program. This is one case where MS used their monopolistic market muscle to force people into using

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
At 08:57 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote: There are several free, open source alternatives to Office available, including Google Docs, which our new glitterati Fed CIO started moving the DC gubmint to when he was the DC CIO. Many .orgs have moved to Open Office to take advantage of the significant cost

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: It took me a few weeks to finally track down the problem, event viewer didn't offer any real clues, but while I was troubleshooting, I offered to roll them back to Office 2003. Every single person refused this offer and said

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Fred Jones
This thread seems to have gone on and on so I'm sorry if I missed any mention of these things. I truly appreciate everyone helping me from time to time, maybe some here will find these helpful. Has anyone seen the UBitMenu Plugin that provides a Free option to use the old menus with Office

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
And also interesting...the MS hater is again...hating MS. I don't hate MS. I hate shoddy work. If MS stops being shoddy I will not be complaining. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You see that explains my bitch. I have been using Word long enough I know exactly how to do a header or a footer, format it, etc. (I started using Word when it was a DOS based Word Processor.) MY dad worked for ATT and they had contracts with MS to supply their products to the company and

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
If the market agrees with you, MS will be punished with reduced sales and consumers switching to alternatives, just as the market is doing to IE. If not, well then, you'll have refined the angry crank persona just that much more. That would be true in a free market. MS has insulated itself from

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Wright
That would be true in a free market. MS has insulated itself from market forces and hence is free to be as shoddy as it wants to be. Ah, the Sleepy Jackson stratagem: when reality is inconvenient and renders your point moot, cheat. I'm sure you will enlighten us with how they prevent anyone

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
What MS forgot, was we spent years learning how to use their Word Processor and were quite happy with it. We did not ask them to change the menu system on it. They also forgot that they once had a very good word processor that was very logical and easy to use. They have steadily crapped it

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Thank you for using the past tense. Made. Not anymore but they once did. Stewart At 09:50 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote: Ah, the Sleepy Jackson stratagem: when reality is inconvenient and renders your point moot, cheat. I'm sure you will enlighten us with how they prevent anyone from using one

Re: [CGUYS] Office 2007

2009-03-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
What they attempted to do was what I dislike about some Word Processor users. They wanted to make it more like a page layout program, but forgot the fine controls needed to male them good. Word Perfect was a great word processor but then they insisted on adding crap so it could do fancy page