Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread Jeff Miles
Didn't you know, Oprah has long been a member of the NSA. Most of her shows were a guise for tracking persons. You get a free car! And you get a free car! Who doesn't think these cars weren't equipped with state of the art GPS as well as having every serial number under the sun that was

[CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread Jeff Miles
Oh give me a break. You find this credible? Check into the group first. I could more then likely post Rush junk more worthy of looking at then this. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:07

Re: [CGUYS] moto android again

2009-12-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtNisSeihPE Another moto android commercial, less Michael Bay'ish for those who didn't like the droid invasion. Well, that is a British ad meant for Old Europeans. Those crazy, cowardly Europeans

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
So Much BS! I predicated my statement with the difference between a hack and a pro. You are permitted to be a hack. Just don't show up when I am asking for the pro's with crappy tools; I won't give you the job - I will just laugh. Why such defense of crappy tools? I am in IT, so when applied

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread Chris Dunford
The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! Steve As the result of which,

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote:  The other day, on CNN... Correcting myself here. It was not CNN, but rather CNBC. However, I am sure that by this time, the story has also been covered by CNN. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad.. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: Oh give me a break. You find this credible? Check into the group first. I could more then

Re: [CGUYS] moto android again

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Have you thought maybe it's just you that gets 'warmonger' out of that? Maybe the euros just don't like Michael Bay movies? On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:02 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Not sure why you are going off when I agreed with you. Habit maybe? Which part is bs? I said 'Those building homes need better tools than someone putting together a few pieces of wood.' Was that the BS? On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: So

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad.. The problem is Obama got stuck with a bunch of bad Bush policy and has to figure out how to unravel the mess

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Not going off Mike, just not quite parsing your defense of crummy tools. So if I want to build a birdhouse, hang a picture or build something in the backyard I need crappy tools? If I already use professional tools, these projects are beneath those tools? Do you apply this to computers? If so,

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Stewart Marshall
You make a bad assumption cost = quality You are saying that the Rolls Royce is indeed a better car for everyone because it costs more money therefore it is of the highest quality and everyone should save up and wait till they can afford a Rolls Royce then they can buy a car? I don't buy

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
The problem is you seem to equate inexpensive with crap. I don't. I don't buy 'crappy' tools, I buy the tools that will do the job, whatever job, well. I don't need a 400 dollar hammer because I don't use a hammer to make my living. If I already have that hammer, of course I'd use it, but I

Re: [CGUYS] moto android again

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqu835nA3t0NR=1 Looks promising. I had my first close look at a Blackberry yesterday. Damn it's awful. You have to be highly motivated to put up with its cramped and cluttered interface and endless menus.

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS Afghan regional politics

2009-12-11 Thread db
Although I completely agree with the initial analysis, and would like that the latter part could be true, that deduction is totally divorced from any possible reality in my opinion. What is it we are trying to ... hoping to correct? How does one correct Afghanistan? What does correcting

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:38 AM, mike wrote: Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad.. HEY! Change the subject line and add an OT tag please! *

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Same logic as 'just let us search you without a warrant because you claim to have nothing to hide.' On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:54 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
I went into Harbor Freight about a year ago to just look around, I had no plans on buying anything. I found a 10 piece set of pliers for 8 dollars. All of them still work great, two of them sit in a junk drawer for small household needs, they do exactly what a 20 dollar or 25 dollar pair would do

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:23 PM, mike wrote: Another ridiculous assertion made by someone who clearly has never had to meet a budget, you should do government work. Ben Franklin warned against being penny wise and pound foolish. Today we call it total cost of ownership. I find that with

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread Steve at Verizon
Every new president inherits policies with which he disagrees, especially when it is a party change. W complained about inheriting a recession which started in the latter year of the Clinton admin. W also inherited a national security structure which was inadequate to prevent 9/1, but didn't

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Keep dancing, don't address the issue! On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:15 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:23 PM, mike wrote: Another ridiculous assertion made by someone who clearly has never had to meet a budget, you should do government work. Ben Franklin warned against

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:06 AM, mike wrote: Same logic as 'just let us search you without a warrant because you claim to have nothing to hide.' I did say it would be definitely incomprehensible to some. QED * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Do it yourself since you changed it...please! On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:38 AM, mike wrote: Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad.. HEY! Change the

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:04 AM, mike wrote: I went into Harbor Freight about a year ago to just look around, I had no plans on buying anything. I found a 10 piece set of pliers for 8 dollars. All of them still work great, two of them sit in a junk drawer for small household needs, they do

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Stewart Marshall
I wonder what they are doing that this becomes a huge concern? I surf and work on the net most of the day rarely do I ever have a worry about this. MY 19 year old son spends a lot of time on his computer surfing the net. I have to clean his machine up periodically but I know where he is

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I never mentioned cost; _you_ made that assumption, Rev! Your assumptions are flawed... Thank you, -Original Message- You make a bad assumption cost = quality You are saying that the Rolls Royce is indeed a better car for everyone because it costs more money therefore it is of the

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Stewart Marshall
True but you made the comment about crappy tools equating any windows machine as a crappy tool, since they cost less than a Mac then cost must be a factor. Stewart At 10:41 AM 12/11/2009, you wrote: I never mentioned cost; _you_ made that assumption, Rev! Your assumptions are flawed...

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
We who? The voices in your head? On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:30 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:04 AM, mike wrote: I went into Harbor Freight about a year ago to just look around, I had no plans on buying anything. I found a 10 piece set of pliers for 8 dollars. All of

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I never mentioned cost as a requirement for quality. That seems to be a WFB trap or argument trick. My mother is becoming very forgetful. A quality computer tool for her is something easy to use. But I am talking about people who do professional work and my long-retired mother does not

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Stewart Marshall
OK lets use this line of argument. You will not accept anyone who uses a Windows machine because you consider them crappy tools. So the equal argument would be like this. I consider Chevy's to be crappy cars so therefore I will not hire anyone (If I were a mechanic) who drives a chevy as

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
If it was some sort of 'WFB' trick, then your trick being the MFB is to exchange inexpensive for crummy. I never mentioned crummy...I said inexpensive, you made the inexpensive = crummy analogy. *Not going off Mike, just not quite parsing your defense of crummy tools. So if I want to build a

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Rev, you keep attributing things not said in my posts like some demon. My posts discuss quality. Your posts are refutations of imagined costs or biases. My kindest description of that is slippery discourse. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- OK lets use this line of

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Stewart Marshall
You make one side of the argument and Tom fills in the gap. I am discussing the whole thing because between you and Tom you are a tag team. Stewart At 11:21 AM 12/11/2009, you wrote: Rev, you keep attributing things not said in my posts like some demon. My posts discuss quality. Your posts

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Stewart Marshall
You mean this comment? Stewart At 06:32 AM 12/11/2009, you wrote: So Much BS! I predicated my statement with the difference between a hack and a pro. You are permitted to be a hack. Just don't show up when I am asking for the pro's with crappy tools; I won't give you the job - I will just

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
That, Mike, must be a WFB misperception. I said crummy, crappy tools. *You* said M$. I said quality, professional tools. You cried expensive Apple. You seem to imply that Apple makes the only quality tools; I would refute that. Thank you, -Original Message- If it was some sort of

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Ugh, please live up to the honorific! Thou hast painteth me with colors most unbidden. The reverend is bereft of logic! Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- You make one side of the argument and Tom fills in the gap. I am discussing the whole thing because between you and Tom

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
If you read, I gave an apple as one of the inexpensive that would do the job. I think you are confusing what I said with what someone else said. Can you show where I did this? I can show you where I said purchasing a mac mini is an example of an inexpensive tool that works. * How would I apply

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
That is one of my posts, yes. I am not able to hallucinate the accused words. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- You mean this comment? Stewart At 06:32 AM 12/11/2009, you wrote: So Much BS! I predicated my statement with the difference between a hack and a pro. You are

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Mike, maybe these are two diametrically opposed points of view. I look for a quality tool likely to produce a professional result, predictably and efficiently. My joy is the quality of the output and using efficient, well-built tools. You seem to look for the least-expensive tool that can do a

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Are you saying there are no quality tools that are low cost? Perhaps you just aren't a good shopper. I never said a 'reasonable job', but I don't need a 25 dollar hammer to hang a picture as I said. By your logic, your 25 dollar hammer, would do better than a 5 dollar hammer at putting a nail

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: I wonder what they are doing that this becomes a huge concern? PC client gets an email that says it is from Fed Ex. It says Monthly statement attached as PDF. Client does have a FedEx account. They open the PDF, but it appears to be

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
No, Mike. I am saying your joy is finding, getting the low-cost tools. My joy is finding the quality tools. I look at cost if I find several quality tools. I refer to tools that are important to me, in professional pursuits where my reputation and my time are on the line or a serious hobby. I

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Defective of course is Tom's hate for MS showing through. Windows is as 'defective' as a mac, it's just that macs are safer by obscurity. That said, his point is correct. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: I

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread mike
So we keep discussing this because you keep mischaracterizing what I say. I never 'my joy is in getting low cost tools', you did. You said it once, I corrected you...now you are saying it again as if it's fact. Just because you have said it, doesn't make it so. *My joy as it were, does not

[CGUYS] Android PDAs

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Fernando
Does anyone know if HTC or Motorola or some other company will be coming out with a PDA that runs Android OS? For instance, iPod Touch is the iPhone minus the phone ... I'm insterested in such a device, but without the phone. Googling for Android PDAs turns up several hits about experimental

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread betty
The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! It certainly does. Very

Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?

2009-12-11 Thread db
Marcio, That's because you didn't follow our directions (my directions ?) and contact the Administrative contact listed for your domain . Although the service was contracted by Google to a subsidiary of Go Daddy, the party administering your domain is not Google and it's not GoDaddy ...

Re: [CGUYS] Android PDAs

2009-12-11 Thread mike
They are coming out with net books with android, haven't seen any pdas. It think the PDA is going away. You could look around and get a used android phone and not get service for it, it would still run the apps. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Michael Fernando michael@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread mike
This announcement is like when Conyers was asked about reading bills and he actually laughed at the question...read them? What do you mean *read*them?? lol Eric Schmidt admitted nothing that all of us didn't already know. We've all been sitting around drinking tea pretending that gorilla

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Magic Mouse

2009-12-11 Thread Jeff Miles
Wow, really? Though I'm sure they're out there, I've never met one. They must all conglomerate around your area. Is this the same part of the country where some of the people hitch up their horses to their Prius? Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Richard P.
Personally, I think it's more important to have a skilled person behind the tools, than just looking at the quality of the tools. FYI, a friend worked for years restoring vehicles for the Smithsonian. The work he did was impeccable, as evidenced that the Smithsonian kept calling him back. Yet to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Magic Mouse

2009-12-11 Thread mike
I know half a dozen mac owners, all of them run windows on the machine at one time or another. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: Wow, really? Though I'm sure they're out there, I've never met one. They must all conglomerate around your area. Is this

Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:52 PM, betty wrote: You still have no privacy [and it's probably your fault]. Get over it. It's like living in a worldwide small town! We always knew that our backwoods droids did not really relish living there in the outback.

Re: [CGUYS] Android feedback

2009-12-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
mike I've had no regrets with my android phone, got the hero, no keyboard and it's great. I've not been wanting for apps in the least, everything I've gone looking for, I've found. There are a couple things snip My boss at work (as opposed to the boss at home...), his girl friend now has a

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Magic Mouse

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:03 PM, mike wrote: I know half a dozen mac owners, all of them run windows on the machine at one time or another. Only occasionally to remind ourselves of our great fortune. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:59 PM, db wrote: If it were me I would take control of your own domain. To do that request that you be made the admin contact for the future and that it be hosted directly by GoDaddy. Except that you really don't want to be hosted by GoDaddy.

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa
On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Richard P. wrote: Personally, I think it's more important to have a skilled person behind the tools, than just looking at the quality of the tools. ... The work he did was impeccable, as evidenced that the Smithsonian kept calling him back. Yet to look at his shop

[CGUYS] Swapping Boot Drives

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Wosnick
This may be a dumb question, but here goes. I ordered a new computer from Dell and they shipped the wrong box to me. I am awaiting a replacement but it may take a while given the season. I was told I could use the wrong box (a Precision T7500 Workstation with a Xeon Processor) while I wait for the

[CGUYS] Shopping advice needed -- keyboard mouse

2009-12-11 Thread Robert Carroll
My daughter wants a wireless keyboard and mouse for her desktop computer (Windows Vista) at Xmas. Quite a number of these at Newegg. Question, for a separate purchase of wireless RF keyboard RF mouse, will the two interfere with each other? Looking at Logitech K350 keyboard and Microsoft

Re: [CGUYS] Swapping Boot Drives

2009-12-11 Thread Fred Holmes
You likely can get away with what you propose, if you are prepared to use the CD disc that comes with the new machine (or downloaded files) to install the drivers for the new hardware. There won't be any need to delete the old drivers, although there may be some longer time taken to boot, as

Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?

2009-12-11 Thread db
GoDaddy domain and server support hasn't been bad for me. Although I don't like GoDaddy's complex Control Panel interface, one of the things I highly value about GoDaddy is they have 24/7 all American tech support, the techs are very knowledgeable and have a good espirit de corps and really

Re: [CGUYS] Waking from sleep

2009-12-11 Thread Richard P.
I never asserted that a craftsman doesn't value quality. Apparently you made that up out of nowhere in order to interject another Mac/PC dig. In the example I gave, the person appreciated quality so much that he produced projects worthy of display in the Smithsonian, year after year. The tools

Re: [CGUYS] Shopping advice needed -- keyboard mouse

2009-12-11 Thread Tony B
Possibly. I wouldn't do it; I'd prefer a matched pair. However, our own experiences with wireless has not been good. While one imagines oneself having more freedom, say, to lean back in a chair, in fact you can't do that because you need to be close to the monitor to read stuff. Darned silly to

Re: [CGUYS] Swapping Boot Drives

2009-12-11 Thread Tony B
In general, no. When you install an OS it senses all the hardware and tries it's best to work with that specific stuff. Replacing something with a lot of hardware - like a motherboard - usually requires reinstalling the OS. Not always, but personally I've never had good luck doing it. An awful lot

Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?

2009-12-11 Thread Marcio
Yes I do... I just want to keep my blog alive. I don´t know how to transfer my domain to GoDaddy especially because my blog is made with Goodle. My domain: www.drmarciovasconcellospinheiro.com I am worried. Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Dec 11, 2009 11:15 PM

Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?

2009-12-11 Thread Marcio
Many, many thanks... I will try this again carefully to see if I get there. You know it is the first time I have done this. I am writing papewrs in my blog and I started this with google. Will let you know what will come out of this attempt following your advice. Thanks again Marcio

Re: [CGUYS] How do I renew my domain?

2009-12-11 Thread db
Marcio, The administrative contact officially listed in your WhoIs lookup is the ONLY entity who can do that for you ... nobody else has the records or the authority ... and I am sure they will be more than happy to take your money to extend your domain for as long as you wish.. If you