Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postfix-2.0.12-1mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Luca Berra
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:24:24PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Luca Berra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: magic wrote: Which version did you install -1mdk or -2mdk? -2mdk When you do an ldd command on postfix, what does it show? (This is with 9.1 install - postfix-2.0.6-1mdk): [EMAIL

[Cooker] [Bug 4073] [libxine1] segmentation fault in libxine.so.1(xine_print_trace+0x21)

2003-06-17 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-06 10:41 --- Looks like it's trying to read the configuration file and fails. Could you please try to remove your ~/.xine directory? Xine often has problems with it's settings, so

[Cooker] [Bug 4000] [kernel-2.4.21-0.rc1.1mdk] gdb still doesnt work.

2003-06-17 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|

[Cooker] [Bug 3020] [initscripts] shutdown aborting with a bash syntax error

2003-06-17 Thread [unalbar]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3020 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-06 11:34 --- problem still exists.please someone find a solution quick cos it makes you sometimes shutdown uncleanly which results a new installation after a few times.it is my 4-5

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 16 June 2003 11:18, François Pons wrote: Another problably good approach would be using compssUsers file, as no lib package are listed as only effective packages (for the user) are inside it. François. What about lib$something-devel and

[Cooker] [Bug 3558] [Installation] reboot halts computer uncleanly

2003-06-17 Thread [unalbar]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3558 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-06 11:46 --- problem still exists.please someone find a solution quick cos it makes you sometimes shutdown uncleanly which results a new installation after a few times.it is my 4-5

Re: [Cooker] Rpm Finder v1.2 for Mandrake

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find it weird though that RH has not even considered packaging perl-URPM/urpmi (maybe they suffer from not-invented-here-syndrome?). If you look at perl-URPM code, you will see a lot of imported rpm code due to *really* weird things since 4.2 (compared

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postfix-2.0.12-2mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
magic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this is the cooker, but is this package also be considered as an upgrade for 9.1 (isn't this a base package)? No, no cooker package are suitable for upgrading 9.1, or it's unsupported. It breaks too much. I am running a 9.1 base with db4.1

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Lundi 16 Juin 2003 17:52, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : It would be better that rpmdrake also show already-installed software, maybe greyed out or with a mention this software is already installed on your machine. No, it's a long

[Cooker] debug stuff.

2003-06-17 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi. Suddenly I get: RPM build errors: Could not open %files file /home/oden/RPM/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/debugfiles.list: No such file or directory ??? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com

[Cooker] [Bug 3729] [kdebase] Move to entry missing from the pop up menu in Konqueror

2003-06-17 Thread [kde]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3729 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|

[Cooker] [Bug 282] [kdebase] Mandrake 9.0 RC2 : spurious accesses to /home/baudens

2003-06-17 Thread [kde]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=282 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|

[Cooker] [Bug 3558] [Installation] reboot halts computer uncleanly

2003-06-17 Thread [sergei]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3558 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-06 13:59 --- I noticed that this happens when in addition to being logged in graphical mode I am also logged at the 1st text console (i.e. on the one available through CRL-ALT-F1

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Didier Herisson
So, with current tools, a newbie may not find the software needed, only because it is already installed. It happens. Isn't that sad ? I think the vast majority of those cases are not happening because those applications are so large they don't get unnoticed by the user (e.g. whe

Re: [Cooker] sunet.se out of sync ..

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: Our local mirror mirrors off sunet.se, and is about a week behind (it seems). It seems sunet.se is the problem: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/ No files newer than 6 June AFAICS. Since this server

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Olivier Blin
I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task, isn't it? I launche installing software when I want to install software.. Perhaps to see the description of current installed packages. Even if

Re: [Cooker] sunet.se out of sync ..

2003-06-17 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 17 juni 2003 13.26 skrev Buchan Milne: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: Our local mirror mirrors off sunet.se, and is about a week behind (it seems). It seems sunet.se is the problem: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread danny
On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task, isn't it? I launche installing software when I want to install software.. GC, we have talked

[Cooker] kdebase-3.1.2-19mdk.src.rpm: missing files

2003-06-17 Thread AAW
This SRPM is missing two patches: 815 kdebase-3.1.2-fix-mem-leak-kcontrols-keys.patch.bz2 816 kdebase-3.1.2-fix-konsole-mem-leak.patch.bz2. Arn

Re: [Cooker] sunet.se out of sync ..

2003-06-17 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 17 juni 2003 13.44 skrev Oden Eriksson: tisdagen den 17 juni 2003 13.26 skrev Buchan Milne: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: Our local mirror mirrors off sunet.se, and is about a week behind (it seems). It seems sunet.se is the problem:

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: GC, we have talked about this before. You are not easily convinced but the issue keeps coming up. If you really want to know, post a poll on mandrakeclub (or do a telephone poll

Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: Re: [CHRPM] perl-GTK-0.7008-30mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Walser wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: Why? I don't think anyone suggested that they wanted to package a program which required perl-OpenGL, did they? Look two messages back from me in this thread. I searched on freshmeat for such a program

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postfix-2.0.12-2mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: magic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this is the cooker, but is this package also be considered as an upgrade for 9.1 (isn't this a base package)? No, no cooker package are suitable for upgrading 9.1, or it's

Re: [Cooker] kdebase-3.1.2-19mdk.src.rpm: missing files

2003-06-17 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Tuesday 17 June 2003 14:08, AAW a écrit : This SRPM is missing two patches: 815 kdebase-3.1.2-fix-mem-leak-kcontrols-keys.patch.bz2 816 kdebase-3.1.2-fix-konsole-mem-leak.patch.bz2. Arn Strange ... It's right this two patchs is missing :( So I will rebuild a kdebase to regenerate SRPMS/

[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] abiword-1.0.6-1mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Marcel Pol
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:15:51 +0200 (CEST) Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Contrib-RPM] Name: abiword Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0.6 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date:

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.4-2mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
* Tue Jun 17 2003 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.4-2mdk - fixed parallel handler with removing. - build transaction set just before starting downloading and installing packages. - fixed glitches with gurpmi. - fixed bad test report. - fixed bad transaction ordering and splitting on

Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] abiword-1.0.6-1mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 14:55, Marcel Pol a écrit : Also, abiword and abiword2 both provide abiword. Upgrading abiword works fine. But when I urpmi abiword2, it deinstalls abiword (1). The packages don't conflict, so apparently it has to do with both packages providing abiword. rpm bug explain

Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] abiword-1.0.6-1mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 14:55, Marcel Pol a écrit : Also, abiword and abiword2 both provide abiword. Upgrading abiword works fine. But when I urpmi abiword2, it deinstalls abiword (1). The packages don't conflict, so apparently it has to do with both

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task, isn't it? I launche installing software when I want to install

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Think a bit further, currently rpmdrake has an easy interface, but not a friendly one. (Look at some Mac software). rpmdrake has become quite nice, but it is sometimes not suited for the things many users want. And of course, at present

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postfix-2.0.12-2mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: magic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this is the cooker, but is this package also be considered as an upgrade for 9.1 (isn't this a base package)? No, no cooker package are suitable for upgrading 9.1, or it's

[Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Kulagowski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Note the would install {null} instead of... lines. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cooker]# urpmi urpmi To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (2 MB): perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk.i586 urpmi-4.4-1mdk.noarch Is this OK? (Y/n) y The

Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] abiword-1.0.6-1mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Marcel Pol
On 17 Jun 2003 15:17:08 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) wrote: Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 14:55, Marcel Pol a écrit : Also, abiword and abiword2 both provide abiword. Upgrading abiword works fine. But when I urpmi abiword2, it deinstalls

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And of course, at present rpmdrake can only be run as root. If it were Untrue! This time you suck.. you asked for that feature, I've said I would add it, I've added it on May 28,

[Cooker] rpm evaluating %_host differently vs 9.1/9.0 etc

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ rpm --eval %_host i686-pc-linux-gnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ cat /home/users/bgmilne/.rpmrc buildarchtranslate: i386: i586 buildarchtranslate: i486: i586 buildarchtranslate: i586: i586 buildarchtranslate: i686: i586 In current

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 11:57, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task, isn't it? I launche installing software when I want to install software.. You are

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] But, I think especially in this mode it needs to search packages, since the admin will know what he installed, users not. Argh you're harsh on me. BTW, menu options only start in user mode, I assume then for installation, rpmdrake should be

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 11:57, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task, isn't it? I launche installing

Re: [Cooker] rpm evaluating %_host differently vs 9.1/9.0 etc

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ rpm --eval %_host i686-pc-linux-gnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ cat /home/users/bgmilne/.rpmrc buildarchtranslate: i386: i586 buildarchtranslate: i486: i586 buildarchtranslate: i586: i586 buildarchtranslate: i686: i586 In

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 10:02, Pierre Jarillon wrote: Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 11:57, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task, isn't it? I launche

[Cooker] [Bug 4073] [libxine1] segmentation fault in libxine.so.1(xine_print_trace+0x21)

2003-06-17 Thread [aw280]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-06 17:01 --- I can confirm this bug. Also happens with gxine. Maybe it's gcc 3.3 related? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are

Re: [Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Kulagowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note the would install {null} instead of... lines. I think it means the action would be to install, instead of upgrading. YES ! IANAGESM François.

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread danny
On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Untrue! This time you suck.. you asked for that feature, I've ^ haha, I think Buchan was a bit too annoying? said I would add it, I've added it on May 28, but you didn't even notice :(. I didn't see it as well, thanks! d.

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 16:26, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : contacts with newbies and sometimes I feel a lack of patience with them ! But newbies are our new users and we have to take care of them. Ask for some people in the street to test Mandrake 9.1. Experience this. Sure you'll be

[Cooker] [Bug 4074] [gnome-db2.0] New: mergeant needs gnome-db2.0 to function properly

2003-06-17 Thread [deaddog]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 Product: gnome-db2.0 Component: packaging Summary: mergeant needs gnome-db2.0 to function properly Product: gnome-db2.0 Version: 0.12.2-1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All

[Cooker] [Bug 2822] [KDE] Mandrake 9.1 RC2 KDE Apps Bug

2003-06-17 Thread [kde]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2822 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|

[Cooker] Re: [PATCH] Final mkinitrd support for 2.5 (on ix86 at least)

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Sorry for the so long delay in answering.. Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 16 May 2003 18:26, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: why not deciding on $kernel like you do for deciding if bootsplash need be disabled? It is needed anyway. It is impossible to just parse

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Untrue! This time you suck.. you asked for that feature, I've ^ haha, I think Buchan was a bit too annoying? No, it's that other times he's right. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -

RE: [Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Kulagowski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 More weirdness: it tried to install twice, with the second time failing because it had already installed the first time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] docs]# urpmi linuxdoc To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (5 MB):

Re: [Cooker] rpm evaluating %_host differently vs 9.1/9.0 etc

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well RPM builds for %_target_platform, not for %_host -- but I'm not sure that was your question :/. Thanks, I think it's what I was looking for, and rpm --showrc|grep mandrake

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, I think especially in this mode it needs to search packages, since the admin will know what he installed, users not. Argh you're harsh on me. Only because we want Mandrake

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mardi 17 Juin 2003 18:14, Buchan Milne a écrit : Only because we want Mandrake to be the best :-) s/Mandrake/gc/ here :) -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/

[Cooker] Re: [PATCH] Final mkinitrd support for 2.5 (on ix86 at least)

2003-06-17 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 19:42, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Sorry for the so long delay in answering.. this one is using awk. Frankly speaking I think it is much easier to just add Ouch it's long and extreme.. is this really needed? probeall (and possible probe) to modprobe from

Re: [Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
Robert Kulagowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More weirdness: it tried to install twice, with the second time failing because it had already installed the first time. This is a somewhat problematic writing of perl code from me, but anyway this is fixed now (urpmi-4.4-2mdk, as it is written,

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.4-2mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Tue Jun 17 2003 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.4-2mdk - fixed parallel handler with removing. - build transaction set just before starting downloading and installing packages. - fixed glitches with gurpmi. - fixed bad test report.

RE: [Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Kulagowski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is a somewhat problematic writing of perl code from me, but anyway this is fixed now (urpmi-4.4-2mdk, as it is written, perl-URPM-0.91-2mdk is out too). OK, I'll wait until my local mirror has synced and try again. Thanks. -BEGIN

[Cooker] [Bug 4060] [kernel-source] xconfig unable to disable certain options

2003-06-17 Thread [sitsofe]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4060 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-06 18:48 --- David, are you sure you want to dupe this bug on 4059? The 4059 issue is about xconfig not starting at all. This issue is about certain options not being selectable

Re: [Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Franois Pons
Robert Kulagowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a somewhat problematic writing of perl code from me, but anyway this is fixed now (urpmi-4.4-2mdk, as it is written, perl-URPM-0.91-2mdk is out too). OK, I'll wait until my local mirror has synced and try again. Thanks. You

RE: [Cooker] URPMI 4.4 weirdness

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Kulagowski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Note the would install {null} instead of... lines. I think it means the action would be to install, instead of upgrading. Just curious, but why is it telling me this in the first place? I've got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]$ rpm -qa|grep kernel

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 09:35, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I still fail to see why people start installing software to see installed packages.. Typical scenario is to start the given program for a given task,

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread danny
On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: mandrakeclub (or do a telephone poll for registered users, but that will be more expensive). I don't like mandrakeclub much. why? This is ofcourse a bit oftopic. But club gives you an excellent few of the (paying) user experience of the distro.

Re: [Cooker] ppp is not ipv6 enabled

2003-06-17 Thread dams
Teemu Torma [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Monday 16 June 2003 20:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you send me the patch and a diff -u comparing your spec file and the original one? sure : [patches cut] Of course, easier is to just add: perl -pi -e s/^.*HAVE_INET6=.*$/HAVE_INET6=y/;

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please note, this is a development list, if you want a list for Mandrakesoft business strategy, maybe you can find someone to host such as list, but this one is not for discussing Mandrakesoft business strategy, and I am quite sure no posts to this

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Scherer
I don't like mandrakeclub much. But you like their money, right? Maybe you don't like your mother, but she gave birth to you, so you at least owe her a nod. Well, I don't think that Mandrakeclub give birth to Guillaume, so, I don't realy see the point. If I wanted to start a flame wars,

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread danny
On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gratuitously give money in return for a promise to be recognized with their votes is exactly the problem that will be the downfall of the Mandrake distro if it happens. MandrakeClub users are people who

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Scherer wrote: Now, if you want someting more feature full, I will package synaptics once apt-get will compile on cooker. Then, just vote for someone to backport it in 9.1. $ urpmq -i apt extracting apt-0.5.5cnc4.1-3mdk.i586 Name:

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread danny
On 17 Jun 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: about this before. There was also a post about the slow search (to which didn't quite satisfactory answer IM0, why is kpackage quicker in searching than rpmdrake? Do you think it can be optimized?) what kpackage

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread andre
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 15:39, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And of course, at present rpmdrake can only be run as root. If it were Untrue! This time you suck.. you asked for that feature, I've said I would add it, I've added it on May 28, but you didn't

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:09, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Which is a moot point since if you are not going to pay any attention to users that have *purchased* a vote, what then convinces anyone that you will put a priority on users that HAVE NOT purchased a vote? Who you are *not* listening to anyway

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 14:32, Michael Scherer wrote: I don't like mandrakeclub much. But you like their money, right? Maybe you don't like your mother, but she gave birth to you, so you at least owe her a nod. Well, I don't think that Mandrakeclub give birth to Guillaume, so, I

[Cooker] [Bug 4052] [kdebase] pam config file for screensaver references non-existent pam module

2003-06-17 Thread [bgmilne]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 14:32, Michael Scherer wrote: To make it crystal clear the point is that the money flow from the Mandrakeclub members is the most potent source of revenue that Mandrakesoft has, which I don't hesitate to

[Cooker] Re: rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread David Walser
It was never claimed that the MandrakeClub was an organization that would give its members democratic control over MandrakeSoft. Bottom line is no development process, commercial or open-source, is democratic. They're all tyrannical, because that's the only way anything is ever going to get

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday June 17 2003 01:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Which is a moot point since if you are not going to pay any attention to users that have *purchased* a vote, what then convinces anyone that you will put a priority on users that HAVE NOT purchased a vote? Who you are *not* listening to

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 15:39, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And of course, at present rpmdrake can only be run as root. If it were Untrue! This time you suck.. you asked for that feature, I've said I would add it,

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 14:53, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please note, this is a development list, if you want a list for Mandrakesoft business strategy, maybe you can find someone to host such as list, but this one is not for discussing Mandrakesoft

[Cooker] [Bug 4075] [gpm] New: annoying messages in mc and w3m if not root in X

2003-06-17 Thread [han]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4075 Product: gpm Component: gpm Summary: annoying messages in mc and w3m if not root in X Product: gpm Version: 1.20.1-5mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status:

[Cooker] [Bug 4076] [pcmcia-cs] New: /etc/pcmcia/atmel.conf is missing

2003-06-17 Thread [donaldpage]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4076 Product: pcmcia-cs Component: packaging Summary: /etc/pcmcia/atmel.conf is missing Product: pcmcia-cs Version: 3.2.3-5mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status:

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Noted. But the topic is not really business strategy from my viewpoint; it's the impact that the Club has or does not have on development. I don't think it encompasses all aspects of club effects on development, merely the

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:14, Tom Brinkman wrote: Ya know LX, IMO, you're gettin way out'a line. First the prime motivation for many join'n the Club was to support free (speech) software, particularly MandrakeSoft. I know it was mine. That'n to avoid being a freeloader. Many, as myself,

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Scherer
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 21:04, Buchan Milne wrote: Michael Scherer wrote: Now, if you want someting more feature full, I will package synaptics once apt-get will compile on cooker. Then, just vote for someone to backport it in 9.1. $ urpmq -i apt [ apt ] No idea if it works on rpm-4.2

[Cooker] L. Xaphir

2003-06-17 Thread Adam Williamson
Can everyone just please stop replying to him? He has an axe to grind which he's obviously exceedingly happy grinding, and if we keep playing his game he's never going to shut up. So let's just ignore him and get back to more productive matters. -- adamw

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.4-2mdk

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
François, * Tue Jun 17 2003 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.4-2mdk - fixed parallel handler with removing. - build transaction set just before starting downloading and installing packages. - fixed glitches with gurpmi. - fixed bad test report. - fixed bad transaction ordering and splitting on

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread andre
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 22:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Argh. another addition to the GUI.. More like rpmdrake and rpmdrake-remove are just not the right tool for non-root users to select rpms. I would remove your May 28 addition.

[Cooker] [Bug 4047] [nautilus] Nautilus crashes when double clicking a file

2003-06-17 Thread [cory.meisch]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4047 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-18-06 00:10 --- For some reason my nautilus version is 2.2.3.1. I will verify the when I can upgrade Nautilus. -- Configure bugmail:

[Cooker] [Bug 3926] [apache2-mod_ldap] missing openssl functions

2003-06-17 Thread [oden.eriksson]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3926 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added URL||http://nagoya.apache.org/bug

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
For what it is worth, I liked the interface of rpmdrake from 8.2 better than the 9.0 9.1 stuff. I did complain about 8.2 at that time that I found the install/remove being on the same button confusing. But I find the current rpmdrake more confusing, being 4 separate programs with much related

[Cooker] [Bug 3754] [apache2-mod_ssl] Apache doesn't start after hard reboot

2003-06-17 Thread [oden.eriksson]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-18-06 01:15 --- I guess the apache2-mod_ssl module cannot obsolete/upgrade the apache1 mod_ssl module. You have to use urpmi apache2-mod_ssl in this particular case. -- Configure

[Cooker] [Bug 3916] [apache2] httpd shutdown script does not kill advxsplitlogfile

2003-06-17 Thread [oden.eriksson]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3916 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED Ever Confirmed|

[Cooker] [Bug 3964] [apache2-mod_php] Can't have both apache2-mod_php and php-cli

2003-06-17 Thread [oden.eriksson]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3964 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED Ever Confirmed|

[Cooker] [Bug 3926] [apache2-mod_ldap] missing openssl functions

2003-06-17 Thread [Tibor.Pittich]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3926 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-18-06 01:28 --- this report isn't same as mine. as you can see, i reported that ldaps connections isn't working too. reporters from your pasted bugreport say, that only tls isn't

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread w9ya
Yesterday I was at a client's. I was installing software using the 'drake' gui tools while they watched. The clients remarked that they were sure glad they didn't have to install software on linux. They went on to say the they were use to a much easier install process. They are not stupid. They

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:37 pm, w9ya wrote: Yesterday I was at a client's. I was installing software using the 'drake' gui tools while they watched. The clients remarked that they were sure glad they didn't have to install software on linux. They went on to say the they were use to a much

[Cooker] How soon until we see a snapshot release?

2003-06-17 Thread Greg Meyer
Warly originally said end of June. Are we an track? I am planning on spamming a link to the Cooker HOWTO page in the Cooker TWiki to the usual ML hangouts coinciding with the release of the snapshot, I just want to know how much more time there is to work on content. -- Greg

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread w9ya
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:37 pm, w9ya wrote: Yesterday I was at a client's. I was installing software using the 'drake' gui tools while they watched. The clients remarked that they were sure glad they didn't have to install software on

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:28 pm, w9ya wrote: Well, I will disagree for two reasons; 1 - The original point I was commenting on was that the 'drake' installer was getting more complicated by being broke into several sections. This is a fundamentally flaw concept for newbies to take on. We

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread w9ya
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 10:50 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:28 pm, w9ya wrote: Well, I will disagree for two reasons; 1 - The original point I was commenting on was that the 'drake' installer was getting more complicated by being broke into several sections. This is a

Re: [Cooker] 2.5 Mandrake Kernel

2003-06-17 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
3) rmmod still not working -Can't open 'analog': No such file or directory. I presume this is fixed by Andrey's recent fixes. As I have never seen it before I cannot be sure. Actually I have not touched utilities themseves (only packaging). You have compiled 2.5 with module unloading support,