Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote: Any person has the same view of my

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 03:22, Steve Fox wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 22:47, Greg Meyer wrote: In my estimation, you have completely misrepresented the discussion that was going on here by substituting your own wishful thinking and by using out of context comments by people committed to

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Guy.Bormann
On 10 Feb 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 12:22 am, Steve Fox wrote: The only thing in doubt is the reference to 'Mandrake developers', which makes it sound like Mandrakesoft employees were in this discussion, which they were not. The article insinuates that the

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 03:15 am, Gustavo Franco wrote: Stupid estimation! My name isn't Martin Schulze!!! I was sent a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the url of this thread, if you can read my name isn't cited in the news.The DWN issue #6

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Guy.Bormann
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 12:22 am, Steve Fox wrote: The only thing in doubt is the reference to 'Mandrake developers', which makes it sound like Mandrakesoft employees were in this discussion, which

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:41, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 February 2003 03:15 am, Gustavo Franco wrote: Stupid estimation! My name isn't Martin Schulze!!! I was sent a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the url of this thread, if you can

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:34, Guy.Bormann wrote: On 10 Feb 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-10 Thread et
this might be just the place to put a plug in for the mandrake-ot mail list, something created by a mandrake user, to help keep S-N-R to the min. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the e-mail address, and it uses sympa so the commands should be something most can handle, and if they need any further help,

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-09 Thread Steve Fox
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote: Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie? Just a lurker on this thread (since it's really gone awry), but I would say definitely not. You've been a very good diplomat for the Debian project. -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.org

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote: Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie? Just a lurker on this thread (since it's really gone awry), but I would say definitely not. You've been a very good diplomat for the

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-09 Thread Austin Acton
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 18:05, Gustavo Franco wrote: I was sent a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] talking about the topics discussed here, this thread will be reported in the next issue of Debian Weekly News(DWN) [1]. [1] = http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/Writing/DWN/dwn-2003-06.html Brilliant! What

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-09 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote: Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie? Just a lurker on this thread

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-09 Thread Steve Fox
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 22:47, Greg Meyer wrote: In my estimation, you have completely misrepresented the discussion that was going on here by substituting your own wishful thinking and by using out of context comments by people committed to making Mandrake successful. That is not being a

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread CyberCFO
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:34 pm, John Goerzen wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy upgrade.I can see :P We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in cron), and it gives me more than

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Saturday 08 February 2003 18:34, John Goerzen wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy upgrade.I can see :P We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in cron), and it gives me more than

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:34, John Goerzen wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy upgrade.I can see :P We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in cron), and it gives me more than Debain

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 16:12, Steffen Barszus wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 18:34, John Goerzen wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy upgrade.I can see :P We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The latest Debian release, called Woody doesn't supports XFS officially, but you can use a solution[1] made by a developer.The reason is very simple: Stability first, features[2] after. If your choice is: Features first.Debian can solve your problems

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Buchan Milne
John Goerzen wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy upgrade.I can see :P We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in cron), and it gives me more than Debain does, unless Debian has XFS+ACL

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 18:53, Buchan Milne wrote: John Goerzen wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy upgrade.I can see :P We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in cron), and it gives

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
You know, the best thing about Linux is that nobody forces you to use anything that you don't want to. In other words, not one person is forcing anybody to use or to contribute to Mandrake. If you feel that you are not getting what you need from Mandrake, then for heaven's sake please go find

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us! please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely useless and out of context...

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:28, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: You know, the best thing about Linux is that nobody forces you to use anything that you don't want to. In other words, not one person is forcing anybody to use or to contribute to Mandrake. If you feel that you are not getting what you

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:28, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us! please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely useless and out of context... Definitely, i agree.But some people are

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit : Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us! please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely useless and out of context... Well, I think, for the good of all

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:51, Michael Scherer wrote: Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit : Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us! please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely useless and

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-08 Thread et
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie? ET, stands up waving both arms above head like a mad man who has been stuck on a desert island for years, upon seeing his rescue ship. Lonnie spoke for me too..

Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community ( was : the end is inevitable )

2003-02-07 Thread Michael Scherer
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 19:51, John Goerzen a écrit : I would like to try to offer a bit of insight on what Debian has done right, what Debian has done wrong, and perhaps explore some areas Debian can work together with the Mandrake community in the future. You 're welcome. I also like