[Crm-sig] New Issue, missing part of type

2023-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Urgent: status of CRMinf, CRMsci, CRMtex, CRMdig, CRMba, CRMsoc

2023-09-24 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
wanted –CRMsoc What is the current status? Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 490: how to model a file [HW reminder]

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
terize them by durance of use? With kind regards, Daria Hookk *От:* Crm-sig от имени Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Отправлено:* 16 сентября 2023 г. 0:08:46 *Кому:* crm-sig *Тема:* [Crm-sig] Issue 490: how to model a file [HW re

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
er be entirely accurate anyway. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: Completing the list of shortcuts in CRMbase

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ime Volume P169i spacetime volume is defined by E95 Spacetime Primitive E52 Time-Span Q13i is approximated by SP10 Declarative Time-Span P170i time is defined by E61 Time Primitive Best, Wolfgang Am 25.09.2023 um 11:20 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear All, I propose a shortcut in CRMg

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
were introduced now? -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassili

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
me Q12i is approximated by SP7 Declarative Spacetime Volume P169i spacetime volume is defined by E95 Spacetime Primitive >> >> E52 Time-Span Q13i is approximated by SP10 Declarative Time-Span P170i time is defined by E61 Time Primitive >> >> Best,

[Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, I propose a shortcut in CRMgeo for E53 Place P189i is approximated by: E53 Place P168 place is defined by : E94 Space Primitive, for obvious practical reasons. It can have the same label. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] PLease delete last message inGreek!

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
On 9/25/2023 12:28 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Here some corrections: -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation

Re: [Crm-sig] Διπλωματική

2023-09-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
of the period. If you simply want to say the Event "falls within" the Period, you only assign a timespan to the Period, not the event, because this confuses your "provenance of knowledge", is this clear?, Otherwise, we discuss it in more detail, it is foundational to the CRM.

[Crm-sig] Fwd: Issue 576 (about ... entity of type)

2023-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Heraklion, Grece email: tsoulo...@isc.forth.gr, eleni.crm....@gmail.com Tel: +30 2810391488 -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (F

[Crm-sig] Issue 519, use of "preferred identifier" and "current permanent location"

2023-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
to a wider audience. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: P168i defines place shortcut

2023-10-05 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
that some subclasses of temporal entity can not be, ontologically, temporal, or some subclasses of conceptual object can be, ontologically, other than conceptual. That would be a logical contradiction. Best, George On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 10:18 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: I thi

[Crm-sig] Issue 482 Vulnerability Belief

2023-10-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
n general, e.g., for defining an "observable situation", we need a list of possible properties. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory I

[Crm-sig] New Issue, missing part of type

2023-10-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
nting missing parts? Opinions? Best, Martin -- ----  Dr. Martin Doerr  Honorary Head of the  Center for Cultural Informatics  Information Systems Laboratory  Institute of Computer Science  Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)  N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,  GR70013 Herak

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 615 (scope note of E13 Attribute Assignment)

2023-08-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F56 Externalization Event

2022-04-21 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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[Crm-sig] Issue 570 Homework

2022-07-07 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
. Please comment on possible highlighting with colours, as I have done, separately from comments on the stereotype wording and syntax. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems

[Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

2022-07-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

2022-07-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
a slight deviation from it. I prefer the latter, if we can adopt a well-established vocabulary. Would you create a Google doc for this? Best, Martin All the best, Thanasis On 10/07/2022 09:36, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Attached a proposal how to develop a recommended vocab

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

2022-07-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
e West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca -------- *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* July 11, 2022 10:44 AM *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Iss

Re: [Crm-sig] New issues: Make SIG meetings more sustainable

2022-07-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
rson Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

[Crm-sig] Issue 594, generalized recording

2022-07-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, Here my proposal: In the 53rd CIDOC CRM & 46th FRBRoo SIG meeting, the Sig discussed MD’s proposal to introduce a property *F28 Expression Creation. Rnn included memory of: E7 Activity* to replace R20 recorded. E-mail exchange: Martin Doerr: /“Rnn was remembered in (is me

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 600 HW

2022-07-14 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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[Crm-sig] Issue 583 distances

2022-07-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
deed measured, requires a sort of simultaneity, except for carrying a clock from one event to another, which again may be a form of simultaneity. All the best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Info

[Crm-sig] Issue 583 elaboration

2022-05-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, For discussing Issue 583, see my thoughts (at the end of) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dv_CAHmV1_5wCOjExmuTOOeuLBAL947G/edit#heading=h.tvb5ixxmk336 Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework Issue 536, issue 583, issue 388 issue 587,

2022-05-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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[Crm-sig] Issue 585 Embedding

2022-05-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
e designed for these exceptional cases only, but for every position determination of a find within a layer. I hope this helps better understanding the examples. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural I

[Crm-sig] Homework Issue 536, issue 583, issue 388 issue 587,

2022-05-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
colleagues have prepared some presentation, which could then be included in the resolution of issue 587. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer

[Crm-sig] New Issue: semantically Replacing Recording Event and Externalization Event

2022-05-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
s the memory. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 10

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F29 Recording Event and its properties

2022-05-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Deducing the current custody / ownership / location

2022-10-18 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
___ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > _______ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailm

[Crm-sig] P62 depicts example

2022-10-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, Here  a nice example for P62 depicts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusculum_portrait There seem to be enough realistic features on it, rare for these times. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

2022-10-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Are there "weak inverse" shortcuts?

2022-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
"), but I assume it is indeed ⇒ and not ⇔. Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

2022-10-22 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
[E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)] I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in P161(x,y) as the result of a spatial projection, as it is done in the scope note of P161. And there you

[Crm-sig] About Spacetime Volumes

2022-10-22 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
, /Integrated and interactive 4D system for archaeological stratigraphy /Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences (2022) 14:203 https://doi.org/10.1007/s12520-022-01667-3 I think we should use it as example. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

2022-10-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
53(z) ∧ E53(x) ∧ E53(y) ∧ E121(x,y) z = F121(x,y) ⇔ P89(z,x) ∧ P89(z,y) ∧ (∀w) [E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)] I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in P161(x,y) as the result of a spatial projec

Re: [Crm-sig] E9 Move and its relationship with the origin/destination

2022-10-26 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

2022-10-26 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ion with the Theatrum Pompeii, on the Mars Field. Obviously inconconsistent. Consequently, Curia Iulia must be wrong. This can be done with F. Best, Wolfgang Am 23.10.2022 um 21:24 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear Wolfgang, I would like to add that your argument that the respective FOL wo

Re: [Crm-sig] Comparing measurements / dimensions Issue 407

2022-10-28 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
/~fafalios/> Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr <mailto:fafal...@ics.forth.gr> Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ______

[Crm-sig] Issue 498 HW

2022-10-21 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Japan; -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR

[Crm-sig] New Issue following ISSUE 597 define irreflexive and asymmetric

2022-09-15 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
alls within (contains): E53 Place. -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] ΙSSUE: scope note of E13 Attribute Assignment

2022-10-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
nd E17 can be applied to any E1 CMR Entity. Why is there a subproperty P41 "classified (was classified by)" of P140 "assigned attribute to (was attributed by)" for E17 Type Assignment, but no subproperty of P140 for E15 Identifier Assignment? Best, Wolfgang ___

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: revise approval status of extensions

2022-08-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] .1 properties on sub properties of properties with .1

2022-08-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Classes of CRMdig

2022-11-01 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
rve better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine. With that as background here are the proposed deletions: *D21 P

[Crm-sig] Seasons Greetings

2022-12-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, Best seasons greetings to all of you, and a Happy New Year, hopefully with more peace, more human respect and more awareness of the cultural values of all nations. I am hoping to see many of you in our next meetings. Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Property quantifications

2023-01-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
://docs.google.com/document/d/11bue0Rakrekmcke-MkZqprfq0FXy5LkRMTl_VDynS5E/edit# Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote for CRMsci 2.0

2023-01-07 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 613 Inverse shortcuts

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
)]' are not ideal in a KB since the process to  find a possible z is time consuming or worse. For an efficiency point of view we should try to avoid these constructs. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework for Issue 624

2022-12-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

2022-12-16 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
, George -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

2022-12-15 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ere will be no abuse in the sense I, Francesco and LRM propose? Best, Martin So I believe that this does not solve the problem as stated - that E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation does not have a description outside of the RDFS document. Rob On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 3:54 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig

Re: [Crm-sig] P133 spatiotemporally separated from

2022-12-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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[Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

2022-12-14 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

Re: [Crm-sig] new ISSUE: O13 "triggers" scope note

2022-12-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
//lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
tps://docs.google.com/document/d/1kd-zCO8e00WoKWb-9VAm96ECDEA2O_1iFI6kpgcuCnE> Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr.

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
=H4sIAONgFuLUz9U3MC1KKshT4tVP1zc0TM4uS8s2LrbUUspOttIvyywuTcyJTywqQWJmFpdYlecXZRcvYpXzKM3NzcxLT8osSlFIzEtRCEgsLs7Mz0vLyS9PLSoGAIh-wfhh=X=2ahUKEwiZlaabgNb7AhVJs6QKHUxQCjEQtq8DegQIGRAH=1637=989=1.82#imgrc=h3dJnCUjqXZDvM On 11/30/2022 3:35 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Christian-Emil, I agree with your precise analysis, except for: A)  I'd argue that P138.1 mode of representation is indeed identical to P62.1

Re: [Crm-sig] Digging for a unknown issue, help needed

2022-11-25 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] Digging for a unknown issue, help needed

2022-11-26 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
has modified (was modified by) I remember that we had a discussion about this, and may be a decision is hidden somewhere. Best, Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 25 November 2022 18:

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 616: shortcuts in P50 has current keeper, P52 has current owner, P55 has current location

2022-11-28 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
onal FOL axiom would have to be added: P125(x,y,w) ⇔ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧  P2(z,y)]" *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 30 November 2022 14:35 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [C

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
for this analysis Martin. I would argue that this is for issue 610 - I have included it in the working document for that issue to discuss. All the best, Thanasis On 22/11/2022 17:43, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, "In the 54th CIDOC CRM & 47th FRBR/LRMoo SIG Meeting, upon d

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 534Shortcuts, .1-properties and the long paths

2022-12-01 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
and we add P125(x,y,w) ⇐ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧  P2(z,y)] I hope this is correct. Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* 30 November 2022 16:11 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

2022-11-22 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
practice will be to associate an observation with the negative property. So far my ideas. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Sc

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 586,557 business model and name

2022-11-21 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
al objects, in particular suspect items. Expert opinions, if possible, from the British Museum about illicit trafficking. All partners on this mailing list are kindly invited to look for other data that could be used. Best wishes, Martin -- -------- Dr. Ma

[Crm-sig] Issue 533 HW, polysemic concepts

2022-11-19 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, See Achille's and my homework for Issue 533, to be added to the modelling principles as real life example from CRM SIG discussions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JhXMH3z8FW55XcyQcQ-XNud1jctTQ-naOf6VJuNC70Y/edit?pli=1 -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] Issue 294 Missing!

2022-11-17 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, am I correct that Issue 294, " * AP29 appears in * AP30 restricted to * AP31 typical for was never entered into the CRMarcheo text? Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Inform

Re: [Crm-sig] P7(x,y) and knowing

2022-11-05 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
called them axioms, and any P7(x,y) for instances x and y of P53 Place a statement.) Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig _______ Crm

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Properties of CRMdig

2022-11-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine. With that as background here are the proposed deletions: *Delete:* L4 has preferred label: inconsistent

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Classes of CRMdig

2022-11-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
correctly removing all these classes will serve to a) make the model lighter but just as semantically powerful, b) accord with CRM SIG general modelling principles and c) serve better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
chnology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
;bears feature" etc. I prefer also a discussion to add more custom classes to the RDFS, such as "Active Destruction", rather that inceasing CRMbase. Best, Martin On 11/8/2022 9:20 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I just want to remind that we have a principle e

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-08 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
to genetic descendence. Is that difference relevant? Or do we distinguish a name being commonly known as in some language from being formed in that language (such as "Köln")? Best Martin On 11/8/2022 9:37 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Apologies, I missed som

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
the class, call it Hebrew and then assign it as a name of those individuals. If someone wants to dispute this, they can use negative properties. I don't know if the above wikipedia article is true or not, but I would like to be able to represent that data in the KB so that I could try to fi

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
that "The Big Apple" is in English with the precise semantics of P72, or that it is not a Name for that Place? Rob On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Gordon, "The Library of Congress has only recently stopped assigning gender to the referant of

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 613 Re: Are there "weak inverse" shortcuts?

2022-11-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] E9 Move and its relationship with the origin/destination

2022-11-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] P7(x,y) and knowing

2022-11-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
) with implicit (∀z) P7(x,y) ⇒ P89(F161(x), y) We haven't introduced function symbols yet. From the remaining versions I chose the one with P161 on the left-hand side because then I don't need to write down the implicit "for all" and can pretend there is no quantifier for z at all. Best,

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
through its scope note as applying only to "works", and "can be clearly identified as titles due to their form". I don't think anyone would say that "Douglas Adams" is the "title" of the person. Rob -- Dr

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Delete E35 Title

2022-11-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
data Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Informatio

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
museum related out of CRM Base? At least I might have my long loved E84 Information Carrier back there... :D No offense intended - just my two cents and the perspective of the GNM Nürnberg on the current CRM development... Best, Mark -- -------- Dr. Ma

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

2022-11-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ck, as far as I can understand, to the modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco Le 09.11.22 à 20:13, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear bo

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
a species surviving. I agree with Franco. Best, Martin On 3/9/2023 8:00 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I think this is quite overstretching what an activity is. Of course we can make quick and dirty use of any class. I cannot imagine, how an "All Tango Performances"

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-09 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-14 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
types, or "appearing within" Groups. The sense of "appears in" does not make claims that cannot be related to evidence. Opinions? On 3/10/2023 9:47 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: I agree. I think there is still an open discussion how to document such things, but the r

Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group

2023-03-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
- *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci via Crm-sig *Sent:* 10 March 2023 07:48 *To:* Martin Doerr *Cc:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group Thank you all for your comments and contributions. None of the solutions

[Crm-sig] Illustrating Presence, Issue 523

2023-03-26 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
, but the content has not yet been published. These uses of Presence allow for collecting material from people around important social developments. I do not have access to such cases, and would need help to find them. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] New CRMsci e-vote: label for S23

2023-03-04 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
CRMsci. We are very nearly there. All the best, Thanasis ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

[Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note [HW reminder]

2023-04-20 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
t al., 2008). The 1966 flood in Florence /triggered/ mould growth on books stored in flooded library rooms (Rubinstein, N., 1966) In First Order Logic: O13(x,y) ⇒E5(x) O13(x,y) ⇒E5(y) **Best, Martin* * -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honor

[Crm-sig] Issue_510_Belief_Adoption working document

2023-04-21 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
t is aware of a good example. Feedback welcome! Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note [HW reminder]

2023-04-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
d recover landslide examples from the European InGeoClouds project. Good examples could also be some houses falling down at the seaside around Santa Barbara coast in California, because of landing erosion approaching them. All the best, Martin Best, Wolfgang Am 20.04.2023 um 14:01 sch

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 625: O13 *triggers* scope note PRINCIPLES

2023-04-30 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, By the way, I think I just made a statement below about principles. Would you regard this as noteworthy as principles? Best, Martin On 4/30/2023 6:36 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Wolfgang, Your questions well-taken, but please do not seek a logical surrogate of reality. It does

[Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510

2023-04-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
].] See: https://www.britishmuseum.org/blog/who-was-nero, By Francesca Bologna, Nero Project Curator, Publication date: 22 April 2021. accessed 4/10/2023 -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Labora

Re: [Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510

2023-04-11 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
ely, Daria *От:* Crm-sig от имени Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Отправлено:* 11 апреля 2023 г. 15:32:32 *Кому:* crm-sig *Тема:* [Crm-sig] Belief Adoption example, HW issue 510 Dear All, Here my homework with a real belief  adoption. I7 Belie

Re: [Crm-sig] New issue: property quantification mismatches

2023-02-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
-vKigz5Lm3H69nrlbk2Xfe8gioun87COJmKFfXY/edit#gid=307539608 Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head

Re: [Crm-sig] New e-vote for CRMsci: examples for position measurement

2023-02-13 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
concluding version 2.0. All the best, Thanasis and Athina ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Hea

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE Implementing .2 Properties in RDF

2023-05-02 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
sts.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- George Bruseker, PhD Chief Executive Officer Takin.solutions Ltd. https://www.takin.solutions/ ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -

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