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ime Volume
P169i spacetime volume is defined by E95 Spacetime Primitive
E52 Time-Span Q13i is approximated by SP10 Declarative Time-Span P170i time is
defined by E61 Time Primitive
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I propose a shortcut in CRMg
were introduced now?
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me Q12i is approximated by SP7 Declarative
Spacetime Volume P169i spacetime volume is defined by E95
Spacetime Primitive
>>
>> E52 Time-Span Q13i is approximated by SP10 Declarative
Time-Span P170i time is defined by E61 Time Primitive
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Dear All,
I propose a shortcut in CRMgeo for E53 Place P189i is approximated by:
E53 Place P168 place is defined by : E94 Space Primitive,
for obvious practical reasons. It can have the same label.
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of the period. If you simply want to say the
Event "falls within" the Period, you only assign a timespan to the
Period, not the event, because this confuses your "provenance of
knowledge", is this clear?, Otherwise, we discuss it in more detail,
it is foundational to the CRM.
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to a wider
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that some subclasses of temporal
entity can not be, ontologically, temporal, or some subclasses of
conceptual object can be, ontologically, other than conceptual. That
would be a logical contradiction.
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general, e.g., for defining an "observable situation", we need a list of
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nting missing parts?
Opinions?
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. Please comment on
possible highlighting with colours, as I have done, separately from
comments on the stereotype wording and syntax.
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a slight deviation from it. I prefer the latter, if we can adopt
a well-established vocabulary.
Would you create a Google doc for this?
Best,
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All the best,
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Attached a proposal how to develop a recommended vocab
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Dear All,
Here my proposal:
In the 53rd CIDOC CRM & 46th FRBRoo SIG meeting, the Sig discussed MD’s
proposal to introduce a property *F28 Expression Creation. Rnn included
memory of: E7 Activity* to replace R20 recorded.
E-mail exchange:
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/“Rnn was remembered in (is me
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deed measured, requires a sort of
simultaneity, except for carrying a clock from one event to another,
which again may be a form of simultaneity.
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Dear All,
For discussing Issue 583, see my thoughts (at the end of)
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e designed for these exceptional cases
only, but for every position determination of a find within a layer.
I hope this helps better understanding the examples.
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colleagues have prepared some presentation, which could then be included
in the resolution of issue 587.
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Dear All,
Here a nice example for P62 depicts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusculum_portrait
There seem to be enough realistic features on it, rare for these times.
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"), but I assume it is indeed ⇒ and not ⇔.
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[E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒
P89(w,z)]
I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the
intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in P161(x,y) as the result
of a spatial projection, as it is done in the scope note of P161.
And there you
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archaeological stratigraphy
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I think we should use it as example.
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53(z) ∧ E53(x) ∧ E53(y) ∧ E121(x,y)
z = F121(x,y) ⇔ P89(z,x) ∧ P89(z,y) ∧ (∀w) [E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧
P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)]
I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this.
Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in
P161(x,y) as the result of a spatial projec
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ion with the Theatrum
Pompeii, on the Mars Field. Obviously inconconsistent.
Consequently, Curia Iulia must be wrong.
This can be done with F.
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Dear Wolfgang,
I would like to add that your argument that the respective FOL wo
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nd E17 can be applied to any E1 CMR Entity. Why is there a subproperty P41
"classified (was classified by)" of P140 "assigned attribute to (was attributed
by)" for E17 Type Assignment, but no subproperty of P140 for E15 Identifier Assignment?
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rve better as a middle level domain ontology for
its area of scope.
Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed
over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer.
Any mistakes being mine.
With that as background here are the proposed deletions:
*D21 P
Dear All,
Best seasons greetings to all of you, and a Happy New Year, hopefully
with more peace, more human respect and more awareness of the cultural
values of all nations. I am hoping to see many of you in our next meetings.
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are not ideal in a KB since the process to find a possible z is time
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ere will be no abuse in the sense I, Francesco
and LRM propose?
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So I believe that this does not solve the problem as stated - that
E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation does not have a description outside of
the RDFS document.
Rob
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modelling principles reminded by Martin.
And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my
knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class.
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Dear Christian-Emil,
I agree with your precise analysis, except for:
A) I'd argue that P138.1 mode of representation is indeed identical
to P62.1
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has modified (was modified by)
I remember that we had a discussion about this, and may be a decision
is hidden somewhere.
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onal FOL axiom would have to be
added:
P125(x,y,w) ⇔ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧ P2(z,y)]"
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for this analysis Martin. I would argue that this is for
issue 610 - I have included it in the working document for that issue
to discuss.
All the best,
Thanasis
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"In the 54th CIDOC CRM & 47th FRBR/LRMoo SIG Meeting, upon d
and we add
P125(x,y,w) ⇐ (∃z) [E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z,w) ∧ P2(z,y)]
I hope this is correct.
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practice will be to associate an observation with the
negative property.
So far my ideas.
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objects, in particular suspect items.
Expert opinions, if possible, from the British Museum about illicit
trafficking.
All partners on this mailing list are kindly invited to look for other
data that could be used.
Best wishes,
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See Achille's and my homework for Issue 533, to be added to the
modelling principles as real life example from CRM SIG discussions.
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"
* AP29 appears in
* AP30 restricted to
* AP31 typical for
was never entered into the CRMarcheo text?
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called them axioms, and any P7(x,y) for
instances x and y of P53 Place a statement.)
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of scope.
Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all
contributed over time to this review or properties
alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine.
With that as background here are the proposed deletions:
*Delete:* L4 has preferred label: inconsistent
correctly removing all these
classes will serve to a) make the model lighter but just as
semantically powerful, b) accord with CRM SIG general modelling
principles and c) serve better as a middle level domain ontology for
its area of scope.
Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all
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feature" etc.
I prefer also a discussion to add more custom classes to the RDFS, such
as "Active Destruction", rather that inceasing CRMbase.
Best,
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I just want to remind that we have a principle e
to genetic descendence. Is that difference relevant? Or do we
distinguish a name being commonly known as in some language from being
formed in that language (such as "Köln")?
Best
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Apologies, I missed som
the class, call it Hebrew
and then assign it as a name of those individuals. If someone wants
to dispute this, they can use negative properties. I don't know if
the above wikipedia article is true or not, but I would like to be
able to represent that data in the KB so that I could try to fi
that "The Big Apple" is in English with the
precise semantics of P72, or that it is not a Name for that Place?
Rob
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"The Library of Congress has only recently stopped assigning
gender to the referant of
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) with implicit (∀z)
P7(x,y) ⇒ P89(F161(x), y)
We haven't introduced function symbols yet. From the remaining versions I chose the one
with P161 on the left-hand side because then I don't need to write down the implicit
"for all" and can pretend there is no quantifier for z at all.
Best,
through its scope note as applying only to "works",
and "can be clearly identified as titles due to their form". I
don't think anyone would say that "Douglas Adams" is the
"title" of the person.
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related out of CRM Base? At least I might have my long loved E84
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No offense intended - just my two cents and the perspective of the GNM
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ck, as far as I can understand,
to the modelling principles reminded by Martin.
And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my
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Best
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a species surviving. I agree with Franco.
Best,
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I think this is quite overstretching what an activity is. Of course we
can make quick and dirty use of any class. I cannot imagine, how an
"All Tango Performances"
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types, or "appearing within"
Groups.
The sense of "appears in" does not make claims that cannot be related to
evidence.
Opinions?
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I agree.
I think there is still an open discussion how to document such things,
but the r
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Thank you all for your comments and contributions.
None of the solutions
, but the content has not yet been published. These uses of
Presence allow for collecting material from people around important
social developments.
I do not have access to such cases, and would need help to find them.
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t al., 2008).
The 1966 flood in Florence /triggered/ mould growth on books stored in
flooded library rooms (Rubinstein, N., 1966)
In First Order Logic:
O13(x,y) ⇒E5(x)
O13(x,y) ⇒E5(y)
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t is aware of a good example.
Feedback welcome!
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d recover landslide examples
from the European InGeoClouds project.
Good examples could also be some houses falling down at the seaside
around Santa Barbara coast in California, because of landing erosion
approaching them.
All the best,
Martin
Best,
Wolfgang
Am 20.04.2023 um 14:01 sch
Dear All,
By the way, I think I just made a statement below about principles.
Would you regard this as noteworthy as principles?
Best,
Martin
On 4/30/2023 6:36 PM, Martin Doerr wrote:
Dear Wolfgang,
Your questions well-taken, but please do not seek a logical surrogate
of reality. It does
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See: https://www.britishmuseum.org/blog/who-was-nero, By Francesca
Bologna, Nero Project Curator, Publication date: 22 April 2021. accessed
4/10/2023
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Dear All,
Here my homework with a real belief adoption.
I7 Belie
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Wolfgang
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