Re: [CTRL] A Fresh Look At Clinton

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- With all due respect, Reverend, I think you are confused on a number of key issues. The Republican party has championed the idea of trying to impose the Christian fundamentalist agenda on the country. It is President Bill Clinton who has tried bring some measure of diversity to

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote: -Caveat Lector- From http://www.rollcall.com Livingston Confesses Affairs By Jim VandeHei House Speaker Bob Livingston (R-La.) tonight plans to disclose to the Republican Conference that he has had sexual affairs in his past and will

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote: -Caveat Lector- Not to nose in nor to be imprudent, but: Ironically, whether the Congress or the people who (supposedly) put them there like it or not, the whole debate has raised the level of understanding about their government. I'm not

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, we see now that there is no difference between d's and r's. Bush had a War for his interests in oil, and Clinton is having a War to draw attention away from the impeachment. Why didn't you want to impeach

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , KA wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sexual harassment IS a crime. I don't think asking is a crime? Sure it is, if the person asking is in a position of authority. Gee, June-- My Mom was a pretty young secretary at

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote (with snippage): The Family Leave Act was an excellent idea. Also, the Clinton administration attempt to get a national health insurance program going. MJ: How is socialism compatible with a Nation founded upon LIBERTY, FREEDOM and an

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: And I say that before they hold Clinton over the spit, let every single on of those legislators who has had an extramarital affair step downand let's see who's left. MJ: Perhaps I missed it, but could you kindly posit those articles of impeachment

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread A.C. Szul
-Caveat Lector- The private lives of our reps ought to remain as such. Papers like Roll Call and dirt mags like Hustler, both allegedly involved in the Livingston expose, apparently have nothing better to do but go on WH tips and reveal crap no one out here really cares about. Yuck! Tonite,

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- MJ- I guess you're not up on your Clinton trivia. The Republican Party's campaign to subvert two national elections began eight years ago... Starting with Larry Nichols/Rush Limbaugh...and other honchos in the Republican party who used talk radio to do character assassinations

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- MJ- I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for whom? White males? Blacks? Women? Native Americans? Socialism means what to you? We can spend an eternity parsing words...' I would only point out that

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Public discourse has sunk to this level because one of our major parties is on a crusade. As a result of their error, they've lost seven seats in the House and their leader has had to take a hike... On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, A.C. Szul wrote: -Caveat Lector- The private

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for whom? White males? Blacks? Women? Native Americans? MJ: That of course was left up to the STATES to decide, though they

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Mr. Tunstall, With all due respect ... I think you have me confused with a Republican -- who in general are merely a little to the 'right' of the Democrats who are 'well to the left'. *I* am just to the left of Anarchy realizing that government is needed to avoid endless gang

[CTRL] Second Opinion

1998-12-18 Thread Laura Shipton
-Caveat Lector- Well worth reading. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/living/SecondOpinion/secondopinion.html Laura aka The Pied Piper -- my ICQ# 14484977 Education: A House of Mirrors http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm Legislation and what we are allowing by Letting our

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- In reference to "myrmidons": I tend to think of myself as one who's just buying or bought a season {lifetime} ticket to the event (watching the 'race') ... I would agree that there may be an objective to (exert, retain) 'influence' (over) the public ... but one must be able to

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- I'll have to extend my metaphor into a 'fleet', where the flagship pretty much leads and the rest of the ships, boats, watercraft in this political regatta just follow along ... in this sense, no, we're not all on the same vessel, but theoretically heading toward the same port

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From listening to some of the 'news' shows last evening, it may be likely that BL's past liaisons could be investigated or just looked into ... never know what can turn up when it's least expected; after all, even Revvin' Jerry was taken aback by BL's drive to get the Speaker

[CTRL] Not really conspiracy but Ian Smith's quote is very apt

1998-12-18 Thread John Taylor
-Caveat Lector- "What I learnt from British politicians was that diplomacy is just a polite word for deceit" SUNDAY TIMES December 13 1998 Smith defies Mugabe's land-grabbers by R W Johnson Harare THOUGH 80 next year and a little gaunt, Ian Smith has aged well. He is instantly

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- sorry for the delay in the response. so "the states" decided that certain human beings could be defined as property. This doesn't bother you, even just a tad bit? MJ, the problem is you do not have a keen sense of irony. They speak in terms of "liberty," yet they own human

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Did anyone notice that the "civil rights" settlement was gained once the Nose job had healed? AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust -- : From: Gerald Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

Re: [CTRL] !!! NEWS FLASH !!!

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Commander in Chief (CINC), Arkansas National Guard (Air and Army); plus they have an active C-130 base in Little Rock and used to have something at Blytheville (Eaker?) ... AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having

[CTRL] Iraqiana: 12-18

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Middle East : Iraq UNSCOM aided Pentagon targeting Controversy mounts over role of UN inspectors in Iraq By Martin McLaughlin 18 December 1998 The role of the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) in Iraq has come under public

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 10:00 PM 12/17/98 +, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote:   -Caveat Lector- From http://www.rollcall.com Livingston Confesses Affairs By Jim VandeHei House Speaker Bob Livingston (R-La.) tonight plans to disclose to the Republican

[CTRL] Britania: Haves and Not Haves

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain Labour's reform of the House of Lords A travesty of democracy By the Editorial Board 18 December 1998 Anyone concerned with democratic principles must view the existence of the British House of Lords as an affront.

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- MJ Sorry for placing you in a box. I'm glad that you are appreciative of the need for government. As a strict Constitutionalist (I'm making an assumption that you consider yourself as one...), you favor a small government, I presume. At least, one that does not abrogate to

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 12:13 AM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- The private lives of our reps ought to remain as such. Papers like Roll Call and dirt mags like Hustler, both allegedly involved in the Livingston expose, apparently have nothing better to do but go on WH tips and reveal

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- Are you off your meds again, Chris?? Barb At 04:18 PM 12/17/98 -0800, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Perhaps *you* should take your own advice. i will take my own advice. you seem to be the penultimate narcissist, no one can touch you. it

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'Tis the Season to Be Homeless

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for the post, Roads. On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and

[CTRL] Brits and Americans: Stone Age Fools and Murderers

1998-12-18 Thread flw
This document contains frames, which cannot be edited. The original document is attached. Title: The Times THE TIMES INTERNET EDITION Your current browser will not allow you to navigate around our complete site, but we have also produced a text-only

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, William Hugh Tunstall wrote: I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon LIBERTY.first disagreement: Liberty for whom? White males? Blacks? Women? Native Americans? It WAS founded on liberty, albeit a flawed one... But what

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Sno0wl wrote: And I say that before they hold Clinton over the spit, let every single on of those legislators who has had an extramarital affair step downand let's see who's left. Did any of those legislators perjure themselves regarding the affair?

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Sno0wl wrote: I take it you favor a strict caste system. Would you say that "The Nanny" portrays a criminal situation? Potentially. Are you saying your parents situation equates to the Clinton/Lewinsky matter? Did your Mom lap dance with a cigar while

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Gerald Harp wrote: Isn't it a little overboard to believe that every consensual illicit affair between adults is a case of sexual harassment? Ask the other people in the office who are passed over for promotion, people who have the experience and

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread BStokes45
-Caveat Lector- trea*son (noun) [Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio active of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at TRAITOR] First appeared 13th Century 1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY 2 : the offense of attempting

[CTRL] sweden and ww2

1998-12-18 Thread eleonora.natanzon
-Caveat Lector- I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have some information or theorys about Sweden during the ww2. daniel n. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] sweden and ww2

1998-12-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- It was a hotbed of espionage and certain elements were sympathetic to the Nazis; viz. big business, aristocratic/upper class elitists. I believe though that cells of the Norwegian and Finnish resistance often hid just over the border with the help of the rural population. Sweden

Re: [CTRL] !!! NEWS FLASH !!!

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Alamaine Ratliff wrote: Commander in Chief (CINC), Arkansas National Guard (Air and Army); plus they have an active C-130 base in Little Rock and used to have something at Blytheville (Eaker?) ... What actual military grade did Clinton achieve during the

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: I guess you're not up on your Clinton trivia. The Republican Party's campaign to subvert two national elections began eight years ago... Starting with Larry Nichols/Rush Limbaugh...and other honchos in the Republican party who used talk radio to do

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Linda Minor wrote: get a law passed. If you can't control the president any other way, you select someone to set him up (like Monica, with her sexually obsessive background and ties to wealthy families like Peter Straus), then get her a job as an unpaid

[CTRL] Fwd: Han Young arrests!

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
Anyone else out there interested in this matter? Prudy Labor Alerts: a service of Campaign for Labor Rights To subscribe or unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: www.summersault.com/~agj/clr Phone: (541) 344-5410 Fax: (541) 431-0523 Membership/newsletter: Send $35.00 to

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 6:39:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o The Legislation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL o This is one of the government's direct causes for the increase in temporary agencies o This 'act' has caused MORE abuses o It

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 7:11:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure it is, if the person asking is in a position of authority. Man, when I think of the millions I could have made--the executives I could have brought down. There it was--the

Re: [CTRL] Ru Mills' Dream

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 7:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sincerely doubt this happened, as the President of the United States can not be subjected to criminal proceedings until he is out of office... Absolutely right. That's why Ken Starr

Re: [CTRL] !!! NEWS FLASH !!!

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 7:38:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps you can elucidate on CLINTON's military experience for us? Please forgive us, June, most of us still cling to that moment when Christ said, "Let he who is without sin, cast the

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'Tis the Season to Be Homeless

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 9:03:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The U.S. Conference of Mayors reported Wednesday that 15 percent more homeless families requested shelter this year than last. The mayors cited cuts in public assistance and the lack of

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 7:06:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sources say Livingston was called recently and told a story about his past could be coming out soon. Yeah, well if some kind soul had called Clinton and told him about Linda baby, the

[CTRL] Another Great Drug War Victory!

1998-12-18 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Congratulations Fellow Americans! You have just won another great victory in the Drug War. Good Idea: Why doesn't the DEA plant some marijuana in Saddam's house. No doubt a SWAT team will kick in his door and shoot the dirty pot smoking S.O.B. flw . Patient Who Was Denied

Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox

1998-12-18 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- How ironic and revealing that the term "Desert Fox" was the code name for Gen. Edwin Rommel, a famous Nazi general who fought the Nazi desert campaign. flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: o The Legislation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL o This is one of the government's direct causes for the increase in temporary agencies o This 'act' has caused MORE abuses o It is not government's place to circumvent a contract Prudy: The temp

[CTRL] Fwd: Richard Mellon Scaife Speaks

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
Subject: Richard Mellon Scaife Speaks! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Goldman) Date: Thu, Dec 17, 1998 16:16 EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Right's answer to the Hollywood Money Bags... Scaife Accuses Clintons of Cover-up Thursday, December 17,

[CTRL] Fwd: The '60s -- but Upside-Down

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
But what tie was he wearing? by columnist Rob Morse, San Francisco Examiner, Dec 17, 1998 Madness. Complete madness. It was schizophrenic, split-brain, manic-depressive cognitive dissonance in the streets. San Francisco lives in its own world, but on Wednesday the town's insanity

[CTRL] Fwd: Teleracketeers

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
Covert Operation Nets Telemarketers WASHINGTON (AP) -- A 2 1/2-year federal and state investigation in which undercover agents taped telephone solicitations has produced criminal charges against nearly 1,000 telemarketers, Attorney General Janet Reno announced Thursday. More than 40

Re: [CTRL] sweden and ww2

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- What in particular are you looking for, political, industrial, espionage? Are you looking for nazi links? Scandanavia was considered by some nazis as a 'purer' aryans. Om K - In a message dated 12/18/98 4:00:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a long shot, but

[CTRL] BRAZIL AGAIN APPROACHES THE BRINK

1998-12-18 Thread Carl Amedio
-Caveat Lector- BRAZIL AGAIN APPROACHES THE BRINK Only a month ago, it appeared that Brazil might solve its economic problems and avoid a currency collapse which would deeply affect U.S. banks and bring on an Asian-style debacle in the rest of Latin America. But the country's politicians are

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- May I had an amen. Personally I don't really care for all the banter, but it does serve a purpose and lets us see all the silly, explorations that go on and how 'history' is written, myopically. Dogmatic actions begat by 'thought' 'boxes' prepared well in advance. Life is

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 5:07:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps not doing anything at all, allowing Clinton to get away with perjury, while any regular citizen committing perjury would find the full weight of the jurisprudence system crashing down on their heads --

Re: [CTRL] Some Thought on Iraq

1998-12-18 Thread Hilary Thomas
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Gerald Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Some Thought on Iraq -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 1:38:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- Also, fox in general numerological conversion eguals 666. Om K In a message dated 12/18/98 6:58:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How ironic and revealing that the term "Desert Fox" was the code name for Gen. Edwin Rommel, a famous Nazi general who fought the Nazi desert

[CTRL] OEN 12/18/98

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Impeachment Bombing Ex-U.N. Weapons Inspector Says Iraq Crisis Provoked by U.S. Butler

Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox

1998-12-18 Thread Hilary Thomas
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox -Caveat Lector- Also, fox in general numerological conversion eguals 666. Om K Kris, Care

[CTRL] FC: Know Your Customer -- the system behind it all

1998-12-18 Thread Hilary Thomas
Yikes! The who's who list covers just about everyone. Hilary Together We Create Heaven on Earth [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Come join exploration - a discussion list dedicated to keeping up-to-date on new technologies, advancements in medicine, environmental concerns,

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread Hilary Thomas
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Perjury -Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , KA wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[CTRL] Fwd: [priory-of-sion] Re: All Those P's

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seeker1) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been throwing around p1 and p2 as though everybody knows what they refer to. I'm assuming they relate to Priory-1 and Priory-2, but could someone explain the difference between the two groups. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- just an aside. As to what it means; quien sabe? Sign of the times? Om k In a message dated 12/18/98 9:24:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Care to elaborate on this significance this has for you? Not so much the 666 since that is fairly well understood but the Fox part.

[CTRL] Tenet Healthcare

1998-12-18 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Does anyone have any information on the background of Tenet Healthcare? They just recently bought something like half of the hospitals in the Philadelphia area from Allegheny University. (Allegheny is another story in itself; its top executives had been raiding endowment funds

Re: [CTRL] !!! NEWS FLASH !!!

1998-12-18 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- From: KA [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Re: [CTRL] !!! NEWS FLASH !!! : Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 6:38 PM : : : "Trent 'draft dodger' Lott"? : : Perhaps you can elucidate on CLINTON's military experience for us? The difference

Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox

1998-12-18 Thread Hilary Thomas
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Desert Fox -Caveat Lector- just an aside. As to what it means; quien sabe? Sign of the times? Om k In a

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 2:55:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as Livingston, or any of the other philanderers/crooks in office, they too can screw their brains out, they just cannot lie about it beforea trial court and a grand jury. In any

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 6:28:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the impeachment ISN'T ABOUT SEX... Just keep telling yourself that. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Or perhaps not doing anything at all, allowing Clinton to get away with perjury, while any regular citizen committing perjury would find the full weight of the jurisprudence system crashing down on their heads -- such a double standard would be

Re: [CTRL] Perjury

1998-12-18 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Or the coworkers who are expected to be at work on time, not come back late from lunch, and at least leave work on time, if not put in overtime, while the babe who's blowing the boss gets away with coming in late, taking long lunches, leaving

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: So it is irrelevant if Livingston's had an affair in his own past...it is irrelevant if EVERYONE in the House of Representatives has had an extramarital affair, since the impeachment ISN'T ABOUT SEX... June you are right june; as everyone

Re: [CTRL] The Holocaust[2]Anti-Semite and Jew - An exploration of the etiology of hate

1998-12-18 Thread Jim Condit Jr.
-Caveat Lector- Man, Roads End, quick research. I'm too bogged down right now to analyze in depth the pscho-babble of the pathetic Jean-Paul Sarte --- but I'll take this up when I post Fr. Fahey's short, concise clear definition of "anti-Semitism." Jim Condit Jr. On Thursday, December 17, 1998

Re: [CTRL] The Holocaust

1998-12-18 Thread Jim Condit Jr.
-Caveat Lector- Right, Jerry, I'm not an anti-semite. Here's a test for you: name some criticism of anything the dominant Jewish Lobby is doing that could be criticized without you suspecting the person was an "anti-semite" -- and, my "uncharacteristic" syntax errors come from not double

[CTRL] An Interesting Email Thread

1998-12-18 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- This is the substance of an interesting thread that appeared on another mailing list (headers, etc., have been stripped for space and privacy). == original message Hello, Does anybody know something about a sociology (communication arts) department, that is

Re: [CTRL] A Kinder, Gentler Lynch Mob

1998-12-18 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: And they gave us a document that spells out the peaceful and legal process whereby the electorate (thru their elected representatives) are able to remove officials in public office who are guilty of misconduct in office, including the

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
-Caveat Lector- Oh so it IS about sex after all... Yeah, the president is getting impeached because he's a horrible sex toy according to Monica... Alrighty then... Jamie -Original Message- From: Gerald Harp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 18,

Re: [CTRL] The Holocaust[2]Anti-Semite and Jew - An exploration of the etiology of hate

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 10:45:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, Roads End, quick research. I'm too bogged down right now to analyze in depth the pscho-babble of the pathetic Jean-Paul Sarte --- but I'll take this up when I post Fr. Fahey's short, concise clear

[CTRL] When growth stops.

1998-12-18 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- WHEN GROWTH STOPS -- SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, PT. 6 Here we wrap up our discussion of sustainable development, based on the excellent book BEYOND GROWTH by Herman Daly.[1] Sustainable development means, first, setting physical limits on the "throughput" of the human economy.

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Outline of new Republican National Health Plan.]

1998-12-18 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A program on TLC last night--"Armageddon"--showed the city built by the Swiss miles down, under the tunnel that runs through the Alps--a modern city equipped to house 20,000. You don't build something like that if you're not expecting

[CTRL] Howard Zinn/Iraq

1998-12-18 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- M O J O U R N A L News from the MoJo Wire and Mother Jones magazine December 16, 1998 http://www.motherjones.com/ S P E C I A L C O V E R A G E ___ Zinn blasts bombing / Alternative news of attack As a reader service, and because Clinton doesn't bomb

[CTRL] As Impeachment Looms, Clinton Seems In Denial (Reuters)

1998-12-18 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- As Impeachment Looms, Clinton Seems In Denial WASHINGTON (Reuters) - To hear White House aides tell it Friday, President Clinton is dealing with the gravest moment of his presidency his all-but-certain impeachment -- with near total denial. As the House of Representatives

Re: [CTRL] Ru Mills' Dream

1998-12-18 Thread JYester
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 9:12:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: U.S. Prez wears many hats. One hat is Commander-in-Chief. When Commander-in-Chief, legal argument is he's subject to U.S. Military Code. Brian Redman Conspiracy Nation News

[CTRL] Khazaria.......NOT!

1998-12-18 Thread Daniel Holly
-Caveat Lector- - SNETNEWS Mailing List Idiotic nonsense. Anyone who reads history knows Jews aren't Khazars. Before Khazaria even existed, numerous ancient witnesses doscumented the spread of the Jews all over the world, expecially everywhere in the Roman empire. The Jews now in Israel

Re: [CTRL] Khazaria.......NOT!

1998-12-18 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- The blatant dishonest extrapolation of this idea is only advocated by ignorant racists serving the interests of those who want to divert the blame from themselves for NWO consequences and pawn the responsibility onto a single ethnic/religous group who form but a small

Re: [CTRL] As Impeachment Looms, Clinton Seems In Denial (Reuters)

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- Hilary, There are 55 Republicans in the Senate, it will take 66 votes to convict. Conviction will not happen. Will there be a 'paralyzing' trial'? I believe that a natural defense for any later criminal trial would be 'double jeopardy'. I believe Clinton has stated that he would

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 01:16 PM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 2:55:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as Livingston, or any of the other philanderers/crooks in office, they too can screw their brains out, they just cannot lie

Re: [CTRL] As Impeachment Looms, Clinton Seems In Denial (Reuters)

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 2:22:19 PM, RoadsEnd wrote: I believe Clinton has stated that he would not except a pardon for his 'alleged' crimes. Ok, I meant accept -- I believe Clinton has stated that he would not accept a pardon for his 'alleged' crimes. Sorry, Om K

[CTRL] Murdered! Diana - Dodi, Barrantes, Alan Pakula

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:469916"Murdered! Diana - Dodi, Barrantes, Alan Pakula/A - Subject: Murdered! Diana - Dodi, Barrantes, Alan Pakula From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Dec 18, 1998 12:07 PM

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Skolnick: Various Dangers To Clinton and Gore]

1998-12-18 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Gerald Harp wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 3:48:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday, Dec. 16, 1998, according to Mr. Skolnick's sources, over a

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fwd: 'Tis the Season to Be Homeless]

1998-12-18 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "The U.S. Conference of Mayors reported a 15% increase in the number of homeless families requesting shelter this year. It cited lack of affordable housing as one reason for the increase. "Welfare benefit cutoffs and reductions are kicking in all

[CTRL] Cold War Returns

1998-12-18 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- "COLD WAR" RETURNS == (CNNS, 12/18/98) -- It's "back to the old drawing board" for the Global Planners, who have "thrown in the towel" on their plan for "One World." The Cold War days are coming back, at least for the near future. That the reverse-course,

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I think the president should resign. Perjury is not an impeachable offense. Sure it is...legally, perjury is considered a 'weightier' crime than bribery... Federal judges have been impeached merely for frequenting bawdy

Re: [CTRL] As Impeachment Looms, Clinton Seems In Denial (Reuters)

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 55 Republicans in the Senate, it will take 66 votes to convict. Conviction will not happen. Will there be a 'paralyzing' trial'? I believe that a natural defense for any later criminal trial would be 'double jeopardy'. I

Re: [CTRL] A Fresh Look At Clinton

1998-12-18 Thread Reverend S. Michael Wilson
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 12:09:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- With all due respect, Reverend, I think you are confused on a number of key issues. The Republican party has championed the idea of trying to impose the Christian

[CTRL] I Believe

1998-12-18 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- An oldy but goody. Gavin. I BELIEVE By Michael Kelly Wednesday, February 4, 1998 I believe the president. I have always believed him. I believed him when he said he had never been drafted in the Vietnam War and I believed him when he said he had forgotten to

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- Linda Minor says; Thanks for your posts. What some people with tunnel-vision or blinders on this list can't seem to comprehend is what my favorite teachers in undergraduate school always called, laughingly, "the Big Picture." This is why Hitler was able to control the

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 98-12-18 11:02:10 EST, you write: At 06:52 AM 12/18/98 -0600, Linda Minor wrote: -Caveat Lector- Anyone who refuses to see that this was a set up is no different than the people who followed Hitler blindly into the holocaust. O.k., assuming,

[CTRL] Fwd: [priory-of-sion] additonal communique/Dagobert

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from M. Dagobert: I will try to answer quickly to Jack: - The role of Poussin: he was a very talented painter, born in the Andelys in Normandy and had been initiated to the mysteries of the merovingian dynasty. - If you read well "the story

Re: [CTRL] MREs

1998-12-18 Thread Jim
-Caveat Lector- Hilary Thomas wrote: Has anyone been able to verify government stockpiling of MREs in West Virginia mountains or this just another hoax? I don't know about West Virginia but I have friends in the Kansas City area who have emailed me that the homeless guys that congregate

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