Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity

1999-06-28 Thread nessie

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 So, you think Socialism will be any better?

Socialism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. One offers better
pay; the other offers a better benifits package. But they both add up to
the same thing: the few control the many; the many support the few.

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[CTRL] Fall Into the Gap

1999-06-28 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From Wash (DC) Post

 Air War Exposed Arms Gap Within NATO

 
 By William Drozdiak
 Washington Post Foreign Service
 Monday, June 28, 1999; Page A1

 BRUSSELS – The Kosovo war revealed a profound gap between the capabilities of
 the United States and its European allies that could soon lead to serious
 friction over how to share defense burdens, according to senior NATO officials
 and diplomats.

 The unqualified success of the air campaign against Yugoslavia was tempered at
 NATO headquarters by the stark realization that Europe has fallen so far behind
 the United States in the use of precision-guided weapons, satellite
 reconnaissance and other modern technologies that the allies are no longer
 equipped to fight the same way.

 In more than a dozen interviews, NATO political and military authorities said
 that the lopsided division of labor between the United States and Europe in the
 air war demonstrated that the alliance is in danger of evolving into a two-tier
 organization, with gross inequalities of military might that may distort NATO's
 ability to cope with crises.

 In the Kosovo conflict, the United States – which spends nearly four times as
 much as its European allies on defense research and development – supplied more
 than 80 percent of the aircraft and nearly all the intelligence resources used
 to select bombing targets. Meanwhile, the Europeans were relegated to flying
 mop-up missions, providing host-nation support and deploying the bulk of the
 50,000 ground troops in the NATO-led peacekeeping force.

 Partly to compensate for the overwhelming military role played by the United
 States, the 15 European Union countries have vowed to pay for most of the
 economic reconstruction of Kosovo and the rest of the Balkans. German Foreign
 Minister Joschka Fischer said the rebuilding plan could cost $30 billion over
 the next six years.

 "The Kosovo war was mainly an experience of Europe's own insufficiency and
 weakness; we as Europeans never could have coped with the Balkan wars that were
 caused by [Yugoslav President Slobodan] Milosevic without the help of the United
 States," Fischer said. "The sad truth is that Kosovo showed Europe is still not
 able to solve its own problems. We have to accept the consequences and hope that
 Europe can grow from this crisis."

 NATO Secretary General Javier Solana, who will become the European Union's
 foreign policy czar later this year, said his biggest challenge will focus on a
 European security policy and on persuading EU governments to reshape their
 defense forces in ways that are compatible, not competitive, with those of the
 United States.

 "We do not need to build a second NATO," Solana said. "It's a matter of
 political will and harmonizing Europe's military industries, but most of all
 it's a matter of money. It's hard to say just how much will be enough. Defense
 budgets will have to rise, but we could accomplish a lot just through better
 coordination of the way we spend our money."

 But at a time when there is no strategic threat to NATO and European voters are
 being asked to surrender cherished social entitlements, it will be politically
 difficult to justify a new surge in defense spending.

 "Everyone agrees on the lessons to be learned from the Kosovo experience, but
 few people here are confident that we will apply them," said a senior NATO
 intelligence official. "It would take the Europeans two decades to catch up with
 the Americans even if they had the money and the will to spend it."

 In his valedictory address last month, German Gen. Klaus Naumann, who was
 retiring as chairman of NATO's military committee, said the Kosovo conflict
 confirmed his worst fears that the day is fast approaching when the United
 States and its European allies "will not even be able to fight on the same
 battlefield."

 The air war demonstrated the result of a U.S. investment in military research
 and development that has dwarfed Europe's in recent years. The United States now
 devotes $35 billion a year to creating the kinds of advanced weapons and
 intelligence gathering systems used over Yugoslavia, while European alliance
 members spend $10 billion a year – a sum fragmented into national projects that
 shrink its impact.

 Since the end of the Cold War, European governments have slashed their defense
 budgets – in some cases, almost in half. Austria, an EU member that has rejected
 appeals to join NATO because of its neutral tradition, now spends more money on
 its state opera company than on national defense.

 Among the 11 EU states that belong to NATO, many have been reluctant to invest
 in transforming their armed forces from large standing armies designed to thwart
 a Soviet-led invasion into the mobile, flexible units needed to cope with new
 security threats beyond their frontiers, such as the Kosovo crisis.

 Despite some progress in 

[CTRL] A Welcome to Arms

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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From Wash (DC) Post

Excuse me ... did not the Prez make some comment about having to figure out
*how* to explain to his European 'friends' *why* the American Government didn't
pass more gun control? 

"" "Europeans are so sanctimonious about their gun-control laws," said Jim
Pasco, executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police and a former ATF
official.  "But their shock at our rate of gun deaths doesn't keep them from
making guns. ... It's ironic that the money goes back to those countries." ""

 Exporters of Guns Flock to U.S.

 By Sharon Walsh
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Monday, June 28, 1999; Page A1

 As increasingly restrictive gun laws are enacted in major industrialized
 countries, gunmakers around the globe are flocking to the biggest and least
 regulated gun market in the world – the United States.

 At least a dozen entities with familiar names in the United States, from
 historic Smith  Wesson and Winchester to Beretta and Glock, are owned by
 foreign companies, many of which are legally constrained from selling in their
 own countries many of the guns they produce. But as countries overseas
 increasingly have cracked down on gun sales at home, they have not passed
 similar laws regarding exports.

 Just more than half of the 1.7 million handguns made or imported in the United
 States came from foreign companies or were made by their subsidiaries, according
 to 1997 figures from individual companies and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
 Firearms.

 Gun industry officials say they are simply selling their products in the best
 possible market.

 "Companies invest where there are markets, and the U.S. is one of the few places
 in the world where gun ownership proliferates," said Wendy Cukier, a professor
 of business and justice studies at Ryerson Polytechnic University in Toronto who
 has written about differences in international gun laws. "That doesn't change
 the fact that Americans decide the level of gun ownership they'll tolerate."

 Jeff Reh, Beretta U.S.A. Corp.'s general counsel, said the U.S. subsidiary is
 responsible only for marketing guns here. "It's not hypocritical for a company
 to obey the laws of the country it sells in," he said of the differences in gun
 laws in the United States and Italy. "It doesn't mean the company agrees the law
 is logical. It just means it's acting as a good corporate citizen."

 "Some countries choose to have stricter gun laws. ... We think that's
 unfortunate," said Travis Hall, public relations manager for Browning and U.S.
 Repeating Arms Co., which owns the license to make Winchester firearms. Browning
 and Winchester are sister companies owned by Fabrique Nationale Group, an entity
 of the Belgian government. Many of their guns are made in Japan, where it is
 virtually impossible for a private citizen to own a gun.

 Beretta U.S.A., with U.S. headquarters in Accokeek, Md., is a subsidiary of the
 Italian gun company P. Beretta S.p.A. Glock Inc., one of the biggest providers
 of guns to U.S. police departments, is an offshoot of an Austrian company.
 SIGArms Inc., an importer of handguns in New Hampshire, is a division of Swiss
 Industrial Group, which imports from Switzerland and Germany. Each of those
 countries has more restrictive gun laws than the United States.

 "One of the things that isn't understood about the gun business in this country
 is the extent of foreign ownership and importing of foreign-made guns," said Tom
 Diaz, of the Violence Policy Center, a pro gun-control group. "When people talk
 about guns in America, they tend to talk about patriotism and try to wrap it in
 the American flag."

 According to a recent United Nations study on firearms regulation, 29 countries
 in the past five years tightened rules on the civilian ownership of firearms.
 Gun manufacturers and other experts say that as tougher gun laws have been
 enacted overseas, the United States has become even more important as a gun
 market.

 "The biggest market [for guns] is in the U.S.," said Ken Jorgenson, general
 counsel of Smith  Wesson, the largest maker of handguns in the United States
 and a subsidiary of a British conglomerate. Two years ago, after a 1996
 elementary-school massacre in Scotland, the British government outlawed the sale
 of all handguns and ordered the surrender of all existing handguns.

 With virtually all gun manufacturers privately held, it is difficult to assemble
 a complete picture of the profits, revenues or even market share in the global
 gun market. Only one U.S. gun manufacturer – Sturm, Ruger  Co. – is publicly
 owned and thus discloses financial information, while many foreign-owned
 companies are part of big corporations that do not break out financial
 information about their subsidiaries. The U.S. government keeps records only of
 how many guns each country exports, not how many guns are exported by a
 particular company, and other governments provide even less information. The
 Commerce 

[CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Das GOAT

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(1)  By the early 1900s, Nicola Tesla had perfected not only non-mainstream
energy systems and electrical motors but, in theory, also PROPULSION SYSTEMS
using the aforementioned.  (Tesla's published patents do include bizarre new
types of vehicles.)

(2)  While his work was sabotaged and dead-ended in the US by the plutocratic
elite
(JP Morgan, Westinghouse, et al), its value was recognized abroad, especially
by the
Royal Society, the "think tank" charged with developing the Empire's own
technology.

(3)  The Rothschilds and other lords of high finance had VAST wealth --more
than JP Morgan-- available for investment in any "high tech" with potential
-- and all in secret ...

(4)  RD for new technology need not be PUBLIC, and it need not ever be
subject to public scrutiny, e.g., in a state-related (military) or
corporatized "industrial" framework.

(5)  If such RD were to bear fruit in the form of new technological products
(inventions), those products would be PRIVATELY owned, and if those PRIVATE
owners operated internationally --TRANS-nationally, beyond the legal and
political restrictions of any single nation-- no individual nation, and no
individual nation's intelligence apparatus, would necessarily be privy to the
"proprietary" information relating to these products.

(6) Great wealth, such as possessed by hypothetical investors in and
developers of this PRIVATE technology, could easily afford to maintain a
PRIVATE system of SECURITY
equal to, if not superior to, the intelligence services possessed by any
individual nation.
Moreover, that hypothetical PRIVATE security organization could afford to
infiltrate and misdirect lesser intelligence organizations, making efforts at
detection more difficult.

(7) It took about a generation for Albert Einstein's seminal theorizing (in
1909 to 1915) to become the first manufactured, fully-functioning atom bomb
in the mid-1940s, thanks to the efforts of numerous technicians employed by a
GOVERNMENT in the top-secret Manhattan Project, many details of which are
STILL classified, half a century later.

(8) Had Nicola Tesla's theories regarding unique electromagnetic media of
propulsion, first appearing around the same time, been taken seriously
(outside the US) and been PRIVATELY funded, by parties unknown, a generation
of hypothetical SECRET RD by the Continent's best minds would bring us to
1947 -- the first observed "flying saucer" ...


Given Tesla technology, almost "magic" itself, who really needs
"extraterrestrials"?


Just trying out a hypothesis ...  Anyone care to raise counter-arguments
(contesting any of the assumptions given above in "logical" sequence),
provide us with more detail about Tesla's "propulsion" and "vehicle" patents,
or modify anything in this hypothesis?

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[CTRL] Fw: [Reality_Pump] Hyde's Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act Passes House

1999-06-28 Thread Lloyd Miller




Wait for fascist Senate to torpedo this one! CIA 
Clinton will do everything in his power to stop this one. Doubtful that 
his veto can be over-ridden even if the Senate goes alongLloyd

PS Too good to come to pass.
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Friday, June 25, 1999 3:16 PMSubject: [Reality_Pump] Hyde's Civil 
Asset Forfeiture Reform Act Passes House
Hyde's Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act 
Passes House Easily(press release from the Drug Policy 
Foundation,http://www.dpf.org)WASHINGTON, June 24 -- 
The Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 1999, a bill sponsored by Reps. 
Henry Hyde (R-IL), John Conyers (D-MI), Bob Barr (R-GA) and Barney Frank 
(D-MA), sailed through the House of Representatives by a 375-48 margin 
at 5:05pm today.This is the most important property-rights 
legislation to come out of the House this year, said Drug Policy 
Foundation Senior Policy Analyst Scott Ehlers. Americans are 
a step closer to being protected from some of the worst abuses of police 
power.Ehlers said that proponents of the bill were hoping that it 
would pass by a wide enough margin for the Senate to take notice. 
The House has clearly and resoundingly said that property rights are 
important and that the Senate should pass this bill.An 
amendment by Reps. Asa Hutchinson (R-AR) and Anthony Weiner (D-NY), which 
would have watered down H.R. 1658 and strengthened civil asset forfeiture 
laws, failed by a 268-155 vote. H.R. 1658 would make numerous changes 
to civil forfeiture law, including:* Forcing the government to 
prove that seized property is related to a crime, as opposed to the current 
practice of the owners' having to prove that their property is not 
guilty;* Creating an innocent owner defense, 
whereby property owners unaware of criminal activity occurring on their 
property could recover their property;* Providing indigent 
defendants with appointed counsel; and* Eliminating the cost-bond 
requirement, which currently requires property owners to pay up to $5,000 or 
10 percent of the seized property's value in order to contest the 
seizure in court.(Thanks to the many of you who responded to our 
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[CTRL] Fwd: Execution of two Indian men in Nebraska

1999-06-28 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn






 JB, Have you seen this news?

 NATIVE AMERICANS EXECUTED - SHERIFF TURNS SELF IN

  A Sheriff turned himself into the authorities in White Clay Nebraska for
the
 execution of two Oglala Sioux men and is suspected of seven more.

 I demand justice and call on you to stand up to this blatant act of racism
 and abuse of power.  This is not the first time that this kind of racial
and
 political violence been waged on the Native Americans in this remote
corner
 of the country.  Dozens of un-investigatged murders took place after the
1973
 uprising at Wounded Knee and coincidentally most of those killed were
 participants in those demonstrations.  Unbelievably, yet true, these
 atrocities have continued unabated to this day. The State Governments of
 South Dakota and Nebraska as well as the U.S. Government should be ashamed
 and disgusted that these tragedies could continue and remain unresolved.

 We recently spent billions to stop this type of ethnic cleansing in
Europe.
 It needs to stop in America today as well and you could begin by stopping
it
 in this country immediately.

 Additionally I want to see an in-depth investigation of every single
murder
 that has taken place out there since 1973 and a serious, legitmate effort
 made for a change, to solve and incarcerate those responsible. This is
most
 horrific example of the denial of Human Rights in this country today.
This
 administration has the power to see this issue resolved.  Please see that
it
 is done.

 Genocide, forced relocations and ethnic executions are not the American
way,
 at least not in light of our recent adventures in Europe.

 Ellis Smith  NJ
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In a message dated 6/25/99 11:21:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kelly Roy
 writes:

  We are definitely going to leave tonight at 8:00 p.m. Mountain
  time, and would like all those interested to join us if they could.  A
  campsite has been erected in Pine Ridge at the Morman church and they
have
  set up tee-pees for supporters.  There is absolutely going to be a
  rally/demonstration at 10:00 at Billy Mills Hall.  I hear that the
  Nebraska police and possibly National Guard will be there.  That whole
  area might be under heavy, armed security, we are expecting them to be
  wearing riot gear.
  This will absolutely be a peaceful demonstration.  They think it
  will be another YellowThunder incident.
  Please forward this to as many people as possible.  It is getting pretty
  intense up there.  The Arizona American Indian Movement is already
enroute
  to Pine Ridge.  They left their homebase late last night.  Pray for us
and
  please publish this information as soon as possible.  A-Ho and Mi-gwetch

  RED DAWN   Kelly J. Roy Anishinabe/Meskwaki
   






Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

Das GOAT wrote:

 (1)  By the early 1900s, Nicola Tesla had perfected not only non-mainstream
 energy systems and electrical motors but, in theory, also PROPULSION SYSTEMS
 using the aforementioned.  (Tesla's published patents do include bizarre new
 types of vehicles.)

 (2)  While his work was sabotaged and dead-ended in the US by the plutocratic
 elite
 (JP Morgan, Westinghouse, et al), its value was recognized abroad, especially
 by the
 Royal Society, the "think tank" charged with developing the Empire's own
 technology.

 (3)  The Rothschilds and other lords of high finance had VAST wealth --more
 than JP Morgan-- available for investment in any "high tech" with potential
 -- and all in secret ...

 (4)  RD for new technology need not be PUBLIC, and it need not ever be
 subject to public scrutiny, e.g., in a state-related (military) or
 corporatized "industrial" framework.

 (5)  If such RD were to bear fruit in the form of new technological products
 (inventions), those products would be PRIVATELY owned, and if those PRIVATE
 owners operated internationally --TRANS-nationally, beyond the legal and
 political restrictions of any single nation-- no individual nation, and no
 individual nation's intelligence apparatus, would necessarily be privy to the
 "proprietary" information relating to these products.

 (6) Great wealth, such as possessed by hypothetical investors in and
 developers of this PRIVATE technology, could easily afford to maintain a
 PRIVATE system of SECURITY
 equal to, if not superior to, the intelligence services possessed by any
 individual nation.
 Moreover, that hypothetical PRIVATE security organization could afford to
 infiltrate and misdirect lesser intelligence organizations, making efforts at
 detection more difficult.

 (7) It took about a generation for Albert Einstein's seminal theorizing (in
 1909 to 1915) to become the first manufactured, fully-functioning atom bomb
 in the mid-1940s, thanks to the efforts of numerous technicians employed by a
 GOVERNMENT in the top-secret Manhattan Project, many details of which are
 STILL classified, half a century later.

 (8) Had Nicola Tesla's theories regarding unique electromagnetic media of
 propulsion, first appearing around the same time, been taken seriously
 (outside the US) and been PRIVATELY funded, by parties unknown, a generation
 of hypothetical SECRET RD by the Continent's best minds would bring us to
 1947 -- the first observed "flying saucer" ...

 Given Tesla technology, almost "magic" itself, who really needs
 "extraterrestrials"?

 Just trying out a hypothesis ...  Anyone care to raise counter-arguments
 (contesting any of the assumptions given above in "logical" sequence),
 provide us with more detail about Tesla's "propulsion" and "vehicle" patents,
 or modify anything in this hypothesis?

Interesting theory.  However, people should read Jacques Vallee's
*Dimensions*,  Keith Thompson's *Angels and Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic
Imagination*, and Patrick Harpur's *Daimonic Reality*, which basically
all point out that, whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a
*long* time.

Kelly

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[CTRL] Interviews Wendelle C. Stevens

1999-06-28 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 http://trufax.org/trans/stevens.html

This is Wendelle Stevens talking about aliens time-travelling. Includes
Area 51. The interview is a little old but I think we need to know what
these aliens are capable of doing to us - frightening.
This guy is really clued up on ufos, I heard him speak at a conference
in Auckland. He said that the ET's are coming from around the universe
to study us, as we have so much diversity. Also that our sun is so
strong it makes genetic variations which is unusual apparently.

Nicky

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[CTRL] Fw: Stratfor's Third Quarter Forecast

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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 VISIT OUR NEW INTELLIGENCE CENTERS
 http://www.stratfor.com/
 __
 Stratfor's Third Quarter Forecast
 June 27, 1999

 Note: This Forecast should be read in conjunction with Stratfor's
 Decade Forecast prepared in 1995
 (http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/decade.asp),
 its 1999 Annual Forecast (http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/1999.asp)
 and its Second Quarter, 1999 Forecast
 (http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/2q1999.asp)



 Stratfor's organizing theme for its 1999 Annual Forecast is found
 in the title: "A New and Dangerous World."  That concept remains
 valid and the fundamental trends identified within that theme
 remain intact.   The most important trend identified in that
 forecast has now become manifest.  We wrote that "Russia and China
 will be moving into a closer, primarily anti-American alliance in
 1999."  That process is the most important global trend today.  It
 is well under way and is also intensifying.

 It should be understood that this trend was not put into play
 because of the Kosovo crisis, although it is clear that it was
 intensified and accelerated by it.  Indeed, Stratfor's ability to
 predict the Kosovo crisis in its 1999 Annual Forecast was
 predicated on this trend already being in place.  A critical
 element in Milosevic's strategy was his view that the deteriorating
 relationship between Russia and the United States had opened a
 window of opportunity for dealing with the Kosovo situation.  It
 was precisely because Milosevic saw this process in Russian foreign
 policy as already under way that he took the risks he did.  At the
 same time, Milosevic's failure to allow U.S.-Russian tensions to
 mature opened Serbia to a partial reversal in Russian policy that
 left him in a series of untenable positions.

 The split between Russia and China on one hand and the United
 States on the other has still not fully matured.  Therefore, the
 response, a Sino-Russian alliance, has not yet fully taken shape.
 Nevertheless, matters are rapidly moving in that direction.
 Therefore, it is our view that the single most important global
 theme of the Third Quarter of 1999 will be fairly quiet, yet
 intense, diplomacy between Russia and China as they explore the
 precise meaning and implementation of their strategic relationship.
 A summit meeting will take place in Beijing between Boris Yeltsin
 and Jiang Zemin some time this summer or autumn.  The precise date
 is not altogether certain at this point.  There are two reasons for
 this uncertainty.  First, and most important, there is a tremendous
 amount of work to be done at the ministerial level and below prior
 to the summit.  It is one thing to speak of a strategic alliance.
 It is another thing to implement one.  There are some real issues
 outstanding between Russia and China.  Second, both Russia and
 China will use the available time to try to extract concessions
 from the United States and the West in general, under the
 assumption that they will be eager to prevent a Sino-Russian
 alliance from solidifying.  Both of these reasons point to a fairly
 slow process.

 There are fundamental geopolitical issues that need to be resolved
 by the Russians and Chinese.  The most important of these is the
 status of the Central Asian republics of the former Soviet Union.
 China is experiencing substantial unrest from Moslem groups in its
 Xinjiang province.  These groups are drawing support from, at
 least, elements within predominantly Moslem states of the former
 Soviet Union, and perhaps from some of the states themselves.
 China clearly wants Russia's help in dealing with that problem.
 Russia, however, is hesitant at this point to get bogged down in
 pacifying the region.  Yet, at the same time that it is hesitant,
 there is a growing movement inside of Russia that regards the
 collapse of the Soviet Union as a monumental error and which dreams
 of its geographic, if not institutional, resurrection.  We think
 these forces are gaining strength, which means that there is
 growing support for a more expansionary Russian foreign policy.
 The geopolitics of the region may actually be a force pulling
 Russian hard-liners and Beijing closer together.

 A more important issue on the table is what the alliance will mean
 in relation to the United States.  The purpose of the alliance is
 twofold.  First, it is to create a counter-weight to the United
 States that would force the U.S. to take Russia and China
 seriously.  The second purpose would be to provide a focal point
 for secondary states looking for a safe haven from American power,
 which would, in turn, enhance the power of the Sino-Russian bloc.
 What this means in practical terms is unclear.  It might range from
 a general policy of coordination to a mutual defense pact pledging
 each side to support the others' wars.  Neither side wants to be
 excessively exposed to the adventures and vulnerabilities of the
 other.  At 

[CTRL] DasGoat 144,000

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

  Well, here it is, the 144,000 that Revelation speaks of, and this
information isn't even from a "Christian" source...


http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/96/11/09/timfgnmid03001.html?11822
82

Hebron settlers promised expansion
FROM CHRISTOPHER WALKER
IN JERUSALEM
ISRAEL'S Prime Minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has promised Jewish settlers
that he would expand settlements in the occupied West Bank to compensate for
the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Hebron, still the subject of
negotiations with the Palestinians.
According to Israel television, the pledge was made during a private meeting
between the Prime Minister and leaders of the ***144,000*** settlers. "When
the army vehicles pull out of Hebron, the mobile homes will pull into the
settlements," the television reported. About 450 militant Jews live in the
centre of Hebron among 120,000 hostile Palestinians. The potential for
violence in the city holy to both Muslims and Jews has been growing.
Yesterday Yitzhak Mordechai, the Defence Minister, reported to the Cabinet
that the atmosphere there was "very tense".
Political sources said that Mr Netanyahu's new offer was an attempt to
defuse the chance of an explosion of Israeli-Arab violence. Talks on the
Hebron pull-out are expected to resume in earnest when Dennis Ross, the
American special envoy, returns to the region next week.
Yediot Ahronot, the Tel Aviv daily, quoted Mr Netanyahu as telling the
settlers: "I will personally see to it that all the delays in your expansion
plans (are remedied) and I will make sure that the approved decisions are
implemented on the ground."
The Palestinians consider settlement construction one of the greatest
threats to the already ailing peace process and the United States calls it
an "obstacle to peace".
Last night the left-wing Israeli pressure group, Peace Now, said: "The
Israeli public should note that hundreds of millions of shekels from the
Government's budget are about to be invested in new apartments, the
expansion of settlements, in caravans and outrageous allocations to 3 per
cent of the population."


 \\|//
(o o)
oOOo-(_)-oOOo
 Jamie Stopforth
 Williams Solution Center
  x6343

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[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Razzle-Dazzle

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan





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Subj:   Razzle-Dazzle
Date:   Thursday, June 24, 1999 03:30:32 AM
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Quinn's story is totally bogus. There are no such "Mind Control Program 
Setup" instructions in Dazzle. I challenged him to produce a copy of the 
program with such instructions and he admitted he never saw one (he was 
quoting a source and never fact-checked the story). But he's still putting 
out the disinformation, I see. Why don't you ask him for some evidence?

Relevant posts to mindcontrol-l:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MC] Fwd: Dazzle: Screen Saver Mind Control?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:19:23 EDT


On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:28:29 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAZZLING! But What's Wrong With This Picture?


© 1999 NewsHawk Inc.
All Rights Reserved

The following material was received from a source who has reported 
that
a computer application known as Dazzle is in fact a mind control tool
hidden within what is outwardly a screensaver program.

=
Hi Julleia,
I just finished de-compiling my copy of DAZZLE.
Still haven't found anything of what you describe.

Could you supply some documented references
as to where all this is located within the program.
I seen the opening and closing screen where it makes
reference to the creators of the screensaver.
I have yet to see anything about any other creator(s)
in these screens.

As for the refresh rate of this particule screensaver,
You can slow it down to where you can see every 
change as it is happening, or you can make it as fast
as it can go. And you can do screen captures of any
of the screens the screensaver makes and save them
as PCX files for future reference.

I have saved several 3rd  7th. frames with both the
built in screen capture and a stand-alone screen
capture program and have yet to see anything that
could be remotely construed as a subliminal message.

I think you should go back to your "un-named source"
and get some actual documentation as to these
contentions.  So far I haven't been able to recreate
anything of what you posted about this screensaver.
Jim

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:32:54 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MC] Fwd: Dazzle: Screen Saver Mind Control?
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Forwarded with permission (list members are advised to exercise
caution in running this program; a new virus just unleashed uses a screen
saver as a front for a covert program that remotely monitors all computer
activity;
a screen saver is ideal for that purpose since it's always running in
the background).

Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:31:37 +
From: John Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dazzle 

Hi Jim, ( Wes?)--

I don't have the program and if I did don't think I could run it, as far
as I know, as I use a mac. I have no reason to think that my source
would be misleading me as they certainly never have before. The document
I reproduced is in the manual, and the Russian text file is reportedly
on the floppy. I am supposed to be getting both in a couple of days. I
would be glad to pass it on as I don't think I'll be able to run it.
Till then, can't say much more.

Take care
John Quinn


--

Private message:

From: 
To: Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MC] Fwd: Dazzle: Screen Saver Mind Control?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:14:28 -0500
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Wes,

Here is the most recent version of Dazzle Plus which I purchased and
downloaded from the web. I send it to you for your examination. I have
spoken with Mr. J.R. Shiflett on two occasions, once in the early 90's
and again in 1997. In fact he lives just twenty miles north of the
Houston area in the Woodlands and claims that most of the work he does
is geared to engineering. He has told me he had trouble making Dazzle
a commercial success. Also, the screen saver is still commercially
available. That's about all I know with regard to this. The file

Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity

1999-06-28 Thread Ric Carter

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  So, you think Socialism will be any better?

 Socialism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. One offers
 better pay; the other offers a better benifits package. But they both
 add up to the same thing: the few control the many; the many support
 the few.

If you know of an optimal set of political/economic/philosophical
social structures, please inform us.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Notes on Conspiracy Theories, Jim Keith

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan





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Notes on Conspiracy Theories
 By Jim Keith

I recently wrote a scathing review of the latest book by David Icke,
The Biggest Secret.  What I am mostly critical of in the Icke's work is
sloppy thinking; but on reflection it occurred to me that that is what gets
my goat about a large portion of the field of UFO/conspiracy writing.  The
main problem with most conspiracy theorization these days is that many if not
most writers as well as readers seem not to have developed anything like an
ability to reason, to think well, to discriminate between probable truth and
probable falsehood.
Certainly there is a sliding scale in this matter, with raving lunacy
at one end and Aristotle at the other.  I don't claim to be THE role model of
rationality to which all should kowtow, by any means.  For one thing, I have
never read a book on the subject of logic, nor have I taken any academic
courses in same.  I'm not sure, frankly, that those activities would have
improved my thinking, being somewhat of an anti-academic, myself.  My belief
is that, by and large, the academic system turns out stunted sheep, not the
kind of hepcats whose writing I personally dig.
There are, without a doubt, certain examples of sloppy thinking that
could be pointed out in my own work.  Perhaps this shortcoming would have
been prevented if I had gone beyond sixth grade in my academic career.  I
might also not be quite so prone to such criticism if I didn't have to hit
deadlines, since I am one of those odd  moon-colored creatures who make their
living by bashing out books.  But I do believe that in some instances I am
able to recognize sloppy thinking in my fellow practitioners of, and writers
about, UFOs and conspiracy.
  Icke is one example of the run-of-the-mill in this type of writing
today.  He is part of a muddle-headed pack that includes many, if not most
writers in conspiracy and UFOs, with some of the most well-known suspects
being Bill Cooper, George Andrews, Al Bielek, Art Bell, John Lear, Brad
Steiger, just about every New Age writer who ever came down the pike, and
plenty of others whom I disremember at the moment.  For some reason, the UFO
field, moreso than the political conspiracy field, seems to specialize in
this sort of fugghead.
  What primarily characterizes a crappy thinker in these fields is that
they are stunted in their ability to separate fact from fiction, truth from
lies.  This can be entertaining, especially to a reviewer with a latent
streak of sadism, but it is usually not very enlightening.  They can be like
Icke, a person who does not even really try to sort out the differentiation
between fact and fantasy: to them it is all the same, and if somebody,
somewhere said it, then it has to be true.  Oh, yeah, Icke gives endless
sticky  lip service to how careful he is about corroborating his facts, but
the bottom line is that his writing and thinking are completely
scatterbrained.  With a guy like Icke, the ravings of obvious paranoid
lunatics and droolers are as much grist for his cogitation as a sober,
reasoned examinations, like the kind my friends do.  Because they heard it
somewhere, that is all it takes for it to be factored in to their mental
database.
Believing that something is true solely because someone said it and
didn't blink is one of the major pitfalls of conspiracy thinking.  The fact
is, many people are stone lunatics who carry on extended dialogues with their
toaster ovens, and are far from being reliable witnesses to fact.  People are
also prone to tell really reeking fish stories (particularly if there is a
book royalty in it), and sometimes to lying to themselves.  I have a friend
who is like that.  He has invented a rather extensive alternative universe in
which he is rather wiser, more experienced, is really quite dapper, and has
played a much more heroic role in events than he did in real life.  He
seemingly believes that this altered reality is what actually took place, and
will argue so until you remind him of what actually happened.  Then he grins
sheepishly and talks about his unpleasant childhood and how his dad used to
whup him with a belt.  He still functions in genteel society in somewhat
normal fashion; in fact he is the author of a recent popular book.  But if
one examines the facts he portrays of his life, it quickly becomes apparent
that he has altered them extensively: even, apparently, in his own
recollections.  Perhaps everyone does this to some extent as a citadel

[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan





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From: ScanThisNews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers
==
SCAN THIS NEWS
6/27/99

You can be sure of one thing, once the establishment news outlets finally
pick up on something, it's all over but the crying. Today, nearly every
major newspaper in the country is running a front page Washington Post
article about the government's massive data collection system that will be
used to monitor, track, and control you and your children for generations to
come. The article, entitled "Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers" describes the
network of state and federal databases which catalogue information on
citizens for use in locating and tracking them across state lines. This is
the system that was consummated under the 1994/96 "Contract On America." Of
course, none of this is new to readers of Internet-based information
sources which have been alerting people about this particular
Republican-established totalitarian plot for years.

The question now is: What are the American People going to do about it?

If you're waiting for Congress to take care of the problem for you, may
your chains rest lightly upon you. If you're hoping someone else will win a
court case that will relieve you of the burden -- THINK AGAIN! The courts care
not about rights, liberty, or freedom, they care only about protecting the
system that pays their salary and funds their retirement program.

If you do not like the system described below, you basically have three
options: 1) Get over your displeasure and go along with whatever you are
told to do; 2) Suffer under the delusion that someone else is taking care
of the problem for you while you enjoy your comfortable lifestyle; or, 3) Get
involved and actively resist the tyranny!

Remember singing, "My country, 'tis of thee, Sweet land of liberty, Of thee
I sing; Land where my fathers died, Land of the pilgrim's pride, From every
mountainside let freedom ring."? What principle of "liberty" incorporates a
system whereby the government maintains dossiers on its citizens? What
element of "freedom" provides for a government which "has our number"? Can
you any longer really call this country the "land of the free" when the very
government which is charged with protecting and preserving liberty destroys
it?

One other most very important point: Don't be fooled into debating the issue
of "privacy." Protecting privacy IS NOT the issue. Blackmail artists will
protect your privacy -- as long as you comply with their demands! The
government is no different. The focus of the debate must be on liberty and
freedom. The question must be: Does government have any right, whatsoever,
to maintain databases of information about free citizens! The answer is
simply NO, not in a free society!

The inverse of liberty and freedom is slavery and control. Those who hold
information about you control you. As long as the control proponents can
succeed in centering the debate around the non-issue of "protecting
privacy," they can avoid the real issue of liberty and freedom vs slavery
and control. If you engage the argument about privacy -- and that is all
you
focus on -- what are you going to say once they achieve total control
(through the information you have willingly provided to them) but yet they
do a great job of keeping your information private, accessible only by
authorized government agents? They'll be "protecting your privacy" alright,
but you'll have no liberty left.

Scott
-
Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers

By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 27, 1999; Page A1

As part of a new and aggressive effort to track down parents who owe child
support, the federal government has created a vast computerized
data-monitoring system that includes all individuals with new jobs and the
names, addresses, Social Security numbers and wages of nearly every working
adult in the United States.
Government agencies have long gathered personal information for specific
reasons, such as collecting taxes. But never before have federal officials
had the legal authority and technological ability to locate so many
Americans found to be delinquent parents - or such potential to keep tabs
on
Americans accused of nothing.

The system was established under a little-known part of the law overhauling
welfare three years ago. It calls for all employers to quickly file reports
on every person they hire and, quarterly, the 

[CTRL] OEN 6/28/99

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-
Today's Lesson From Georg Cantor: His Mathematics and Philosophy of the
Infinite

by Joseph Warren Dauben


Georg Cantor (1845-1918), the creator of transfinite set theory, is one
of the most imaginative and controversial figures in the history of
mathematics. Toward the end of the nineteenth century his study of
continuity and the infinite eventually forced him to depart radically
from standard interpretations and use of infinity in mathematics.
Because his views were unorthodox, they stimulated lively debate and at
times vigorous denunciation. Leopold Kronecker considered Cantor a
scientific charlatan, a renegade, a "corrupter of youth," but Bertrand
Russell described him as one of the greatest intellects of the
nineteenth century. David Hilbert believed Cantor had created a new
paradise for mathematicians, though others, notably Henri Poincaré,
thought set theory and Cantor's transfinite numbers represented a grave
mathematical malady, a perverse pathological illness that would one day
be cured. Both in his own time and in the years since, Cantor's name has
signified both controversy and schism. Ultimately, transfinite set
theory has served to divide mathematicians into distant camps determined
largely by their irreconcilable views of the nature of mathematics in
general and of the status of the infinite in particular.
=
India vs. Pakistan

Wider War in Kashmir?

Following NATO's Example

WASHINGTON - While President Bill Clinton was in Geneva this month
making a speech to the International Labor Organization, his nation Vajpayee
of India.
Mr. Vajpayee's message was that India might have to attack inside
Pakistan if Pakistan did not pull back troops who had seized Indian
outposts in the disputed territory of Kashmir.

The message stoked already high U.S. fears that India, which has lost
more than 100 troops trying to dislodge the Pakistanis, would storm
across the cease-fire line that divides Kashmir or open a second front
elsewhere on its border with Pakistan, widening the first armed conflict
between the rivals since both tested nuclear weapons last year.

Mr. Clinton faced the possibility that about 700 Pakistani troops,
camped at fire bases 16,000 feet up in the Himalayas, could destroy the
rapprochement India and Pakistan began last winter, ignite a regional
war and scuttle the administration's dwindling hopes of a constructive
new relationship with all of South Asia.

The president and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright had already sent
many messages to India and Pakistan urging restraint.

After Mr. Berger and Karl Inderfurth, assistant secretary of state for
South Asian affairs, received Mr. Vajpayee's message in Geneva, Mr.
Clinton decided to turn up the pressure on Pakistan, senior officials
said.

First he persuaded the Group of Seven industrialized countries to
include in their final communiqué a statement condemning the
''infiltration of armed intruders'' and demanding ''full respect'' for
the de facto border known as the Line of Control.

The statement did not call for a cease-fire, an implicit acknowledgment
of India's right to defend its territory.

Then Mr. Clinton dispatched General Anthony Zinni, commander of the U.S.
Central Command, to Islamabad to tell Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and
his military leaders to pull back to their side of the Line of Control.

What happens next will depend on General Zinni's assessment of
Pakistan's response, one senior official said, noting that impoverished
Pakistan could not afford full-scale war and was counting on receiving a
$100 million loan next month from the International Monetary Fund.

Washington could hold up those funds to pressure Pakistan.

''We're not making any predictions,'' a senior administration official
said. ''It could get worse, if the Indians reach the level of
frustration that they need to strike somewhere else.''

That concern rose after Mr. Vajpayee's letter, officials said, because
it told Mr. Clinton that the spectacle of Indian troops coming down from
the mountains in body bags was raising public pressure on the
government.

Pakistan's incursion into Kashmir has turned U.S. diplomacy upside down.
A year ago, the Clinton administration was orchestrating an
international campaign against India after Mr. Vajpayee's government
tested nuclear weapons.

Pakistan followed with its own tests, but Washington expressed
understanding of the pressures that led to that decision and looked for
ways to ease the mandatory U.S. economic sanctions triggered by
Pakistan's tests.

Now India is drawing praise for its restraint in the Kashmir conflict,
and it is Pakistan that is being criticized. After initially promising
public neutrality, Mr. Clinton has authorized American officials to say
there is no doubt that the intruders on the Indian side of the line are
Pakistani regulars, as India claims, not 

[CTRL] Fwd: SOFTWAR vs. The White House

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan





UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
Office of the General Counsel
Washington, D.C. 20230
May 19, 1999

CERTIFIED MAIL - RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED

Charles R. Smith
Softwar
7707 Whirlaway Drive
Midlothian, VA 23 112

RE: Freedom of Information and Privacy Act Appeal
Dear Mr. Smith:

This responds to your appeal under the Freedom of Information
Act (FOIA) (5 U.S.C. 552) and the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. 552a)
from the February 18, 1999 interim response to your February 25
FOIA request.  You seek records responsive to your previous FOIA
requests to the Department of Commerce that were referred 1o any
organization that is not an "agency" for purposes of the FOIA as
well as any correspondence regarding yourself or, Softwar that
was sent to any organization that is not an "agency" for FOIA
purposes.  You appealed on February 25, arguing that the
documents you received in the interim response were not
responsive to your FOIA request, the documents were "not
illegally withheld in a claim that they were being reviewed by
another 'agency'," and that the White House is not an agency for
purposes of the FOIA.  We do not entirely agree with your
assertions regarding responsiveness and withholding, but we have
clarified your concerns through conversations with my staff
Consequently, your appeal has been granted in part.

We are releasing 33 documents to you in their entirety. These
documents consist of letters sent to you regarding your previous
FOIA requests or appeals; referral letters that the Department
sent to the National Security Council (NSC) and the Office of
the Vice President; letters sent to the submitters of
confidential commercial information providing them with an
opportunity to object to disclosure; and the underlying
documents which were referred to these entities and subsequently
released.

We are releasing a 30 page NSC draft bill of the Electronic Data
Security Act of 1996 and referring letter to NSC with one
redaction, the name of a National Security Agency (NSA)
employee.  We are prohibited From releasing the names of NSA
employees pursuant to section 6 of Public Law 86-36 (50 U.S.C.
402 note), as incorporated into the FOIA pursuant to exemption
(b)(3). See Founding Church of Scientology v. NSA, 610 1:.2d
824, 828 (D.C. Cir. 1979).

We are releasing 2 documents, one which was voluntarily provided
to the Department by the Bankers Trust New York Corporation and
has been partially redacted.  The 10 page document which has
been partially redacted is titled "Banker's Trust Encryption
System and Law Enforcement."  Bankers Trust informed us that the
document contains proprietary information which it would not
would customarily release to the public.  National Parks 
Conservation Ass'n v. Morton, 498 F.2d 765 (D.C. Cir. 1974);
holding limited by Critical Mass Energy Project v. Nuclear
Regulatory Commission, 975 F.2d 871 (D.C. Cir 1992), cert.
denied 507 U.S. 994 (1993).  Nonetheless, Bankers Trust did
agree to voluntarily release one paragraph of the document.

We are also releasing several documents, in part, which were
referred to the White House for review and consultation.
Portions of the two letters have been redacted pursuant to the
deliberative process and attorney-client privileges, which are
incorporated into FOIA exemption (b)(5). In addition, one of the
underlying documents that was referred to the White House is
being withheld in its entirety under the deliberative process
and attorney-client privileges of exemption (b)(5). That
document is a February 6, 1996 memorandum that was sent to
Departmental officials from a White House official for legal
consideration and advice on patent issues involving encryption
technology.

We are also making a discretionary disclosure of several
documents which are not responsive to your request, but appear
to be the documents which you are actually seeking.  These
documents consist of four referral letters and underlying
documents which were sent to two U.S. Government intelligence
agencies. One of the documents was previously redacted under
exemption (b)(4) and provided to you in response to an earlier
FOIA request. Another document contains the biographies of 21
individuals. During a March 18, 1999 conversation with a member
of my staff, you agreed that, if any referral letters to
intelligence agencies were voluntarily provided to you, the
Department could redact the names of the agencies.  Accordingly,
we have redacted the identities and addresses from the
documents.

Eleven documents which are responsive to your request are
duplicative of documents responsive to your April 5, 1997 FOIA
request for certain information relating to Clipper technology,
James Bidzoes, and RSA, Inc. (Department FOIA request number
97-143).  The Department is still consulting with the White
House, other Federal intelligence agencies, as well as the U.S.
Department of Justice, about these documents.  Although none of
these documents is currently awaiting solely White House review,

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Voices drift through the ether, over cell phones, from somewhere in
Vancouver, British Columbia.
In a heavy working-class Canadian accent, a man says good morning to his
girlfriend, who is half asleep. She asks him if there's any coffee left.


Neither is aware that a hacker known only as DwC is capturing their
words with a Bearcat BC200XLT scanner, and netcasting their intimate
chat live onto the Internet with Shoutcast, a streaming MP3 service.



See also: Cell-Phone Calls Streamed on Net





"I think it is an intrusion," said David Jones, director of Electronic
Frontier Canada, a group that seeks to preserve free expression in the
digital age.

Because the man and his girlfriend are using older cellular phones that
transmit over radio frequencies without encryption, the conversation can
be easily intercepted. Normally such calls can only be heard by someone
using a modified scanner, but DwC has taken their conversations to a
wider audience all over the world.

"[The callers] are using out-of-date technology [and the hacker is]
broadcasting it like a radio program," said Jones. "But it is not a
radio program. It is a private conversation."

And that could land the anonymous netcaster in jail.

Section 184.5 of The Criminal Code of Canada states that anyone found
guilty of intercepting cellular phone calls "maliciously or for gain"
can be sentenced to a maximum of five years in prison.

Jones said that while Section 183 says that calls made on analog cell
phones, or via "radio-based telephone communication" are not considered
a "private communication," DwC may still be violating the law under
Section 184 by using the intercepted conversations maliciously.

Neither the Vancouver Police Department nor the Royal Canadian Mounted
Police could be reached for comment. British Columbia has an Office of
the Information and Privacy Commissioner, but that department only
oversees the privacy of public bodies, and not individuals.

AOL deleted the cellphone Shoutcast channel on Friday.

"We removed the listing from the directory," said AOL spokeswoman Tricia
Primrose. "When something [like this] comes to our attention we want to
act responsibly and swifty to remove it if we think that is appropriate.
In this case, we did."

The conversations are private, but mundane -- DwC's digital sieve
catches the tedium of everyday life. One person gripes about why his
insurance won't cover stolen scuba gear. A man on his way to work chats
with his sleepy girlfriend. Then there's restaurant reservations, drug
deals, someone complaining about her bowel obstruction.

Some are intimate, others are disturbing.

"He was having financial problems and he hung himself in his garage
yesterday," said one voice.

"How old was he?"

"Fortyish."

While the chatter runs in the background, a group of streaming MP3
enthusiasts listens in on an Internet Relay Chat channel.

The cyber peanut gallery at times creates a bizarre interplay between
reality and the group of technically sophisticated voyeurs. As a woman
on a technical support cell call coaches a friend on how to plug in her
keyboard, the voyeurs in the channel chime in with their own smart-aleck
advice. Only they can hear it.

One young audiophile said he couldn't resist the voyeuristic thrill.

"I think he's trying to prove that we can't be ignorant to the people
listening to the scanners," said the chatter, who described himself as
an 18-year-old high school student from Toronto.

"It's like it's in the air: You can't stop the waves from going through
your body; why not listen to it?"

For David Jones, the answer is to junk analog cell phones in favor of
more secure digital PCS phones.

"We should all have digital cell phones that have strong crypto. It
wouldn't matter if we are broadcasting encrypted voice because it would
be indecipherable.

"Strong crypto keeps out the cops, it keeps out the reporters, and it
keeps out this punk in Vancouver who is getting his jollies."

Related Wired Links:
House OKs Wireless Privacy Bill
25.Feb.99
Bill Restricts Wireless Wiretaps
11.Feb.99
You Make Me Want to Shoutcast
12.Jan.99


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[CTRL] Boob Job

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Boob Job

by Don Lobo Tiggre


In this week’s news, we saw yet another report—this time from the
Institute of Medicine—that breast implants don’t cause any serious
illnesses. These reports come as no surprise to those of us who thought
the whole flurry of lawsuits against companies like Dow Corning
(currently paying a $3.2 billion settlement to women who had silicon
breast implants) was a junk-science and hysteria-driven boob job aimed
at "soaking the rich." Only, this sort of legal fleecing doesn’t just
makes boobs out of the duped women, but everyone who thinks that
newspapers and TV broadcasts are accurate sources of information.

Conspiracy theorists may suspect that such crises are manufactured for
the express purpose of creating the public will (read: hysteria) that
will push new regulations and other draconian controls through the
federal and state legislatures. A simpler explanation is that the greed
of trial lawyers functions in a system that gives them no incentive to
be on the side of right in such matters. "Loser-pays" tort reform
wouldn’t guarantee this either, but at least it would give many lawyers
a good reason to hesitate before suing restaurants on behalf of women
who spill hot coffee on themselves. Whatever the explanation, the main
result of such adventures in legal entrepreneurship—besides fattening
trial lawyers’ billfolds—is an incremental loss of freedom over time for
everyone living in the country (boobs and non-boobs alike).

Boob Tube Jobs

In bed with the trial lawyers are the slavish statists in the media.
Again, it may seem to suspicious folks that most American newspaper
reporters, talking heads on television, and their editors have never
seen a new tax or regulation they didn’t like, and that they are pushing
the statist agenda. (And obviously they often are.) However, editors
don’t need to be closet communists in order to seize upon every excuse
to dramatize the evil, sick, twisted, ugly, destructive, scary,
murderous, salacious, and generally negative from the flow of news that
crosses their desks. It’s what sells copy.

The media helped fan the flames of fear that gave the trial lawyers a
constituency to go after the makers of cosmetic surgery supplies, just
as they went after big tobacco, and are now going after gun
manufacturers.

Consider a case on a smaller scale, the new speed limit in Montana:

After the U.S. Congress repealed the nationwide 55 m.p.h. speed limit in
1995, many of the more socialist eastern states kept their speed limits
low, while large western states (where many people have to drive very
long distances on a daily basis) immediately raised their speed limits.
Montana adopted a "reasonable and prudent" "basic rule"—i.e., they had
no daytime speed limit, as long as people were not driving recklessly.
Montana is 500 miles wide, and for many Montanans, the speed limit was a
steep tax on their time. It was even dangerous, as it kept them on the
roads longer, increasing the incidence of drowsiness behind the wheel
and other hazards. Most Montanans welcomed the new rule and drove at
reasonable speeds, given the type of car they owned and the road
conditions. In 1996, the first full year after the "basic rule" was
adopted, highway fatalities dropped dramatically, from 216 to 198, the
lowest rate since 1989.

But that’s not the way an editorial from a major Salt Lake City
television station portrayed the "basic rule". According to KSL
spokesman Duane Cardall, "Montana tried it and it didn’t work. It is a
good lesson for us all." It’s not just the opinion that’s disturbing,
look at how Cardall carefully presents the facts:

"While many motorists approached the ‘basic rule’ law with
responsibility, far too many abused the privilege, endangering not only
themselves, but other motorists. The fatality rate skyrocketed, from an
average of 200 traffic related deaths per year for the previous decade,
to 267 in 1997."

Besides the disturbing reference to the right to travel as a
"privilege", note that, instead of documenting the initial decrease in
fatalities, we are told that the death rate "skyrocketed." This is
yellow journalism of the lowest order; the statistics are correct but
the impression created is misleading. How can this be anything but a
deliberate attempt to mislead the public? Well, perhaps it is, or
perhaps it’s just the result of an editor who knows that "fatality rate
skyrocketed" will sell more copy than, "in a complex interaction of
alcohol, out-of-state drivers, and other variables, the mortality on
Montana highways has fluctuated greatly since the repeal of the speed
limit."

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc

As it turns out, the 25 percent 

[CTRL] [18] Jack Parsons The Curious Origins of the American Space Program

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Jack Parsons


The Curious Origins of the American Space Program

by The Magician

Part 18: Bloody Dichondra


Dean was watching it all from the car. The two external cameramen had
caught Oral Jerry Swagger and Zak entering the restaurant. OJS had been
carrying the briefcase with the money. The internal cameraman would film
and record part of their dinner conversation. Then . . .

Here they came. Zak was carrying the briefcase now. They were shaking
hands. Three cameras going. The man inside had followed them out and was
making no effort to be non-obtrusive. He caught OJS with his mouth
dropping open as he looking directly into the camera lens.

Zak came over and got into the car, two cameramen following him,
filming. One of them got into the back seat. Zak opened the briefcase
and the cameraman leaned forward, filming the money.

"Where to?" Dean asked.

"Chinatown," Zak said. "I deliver the money and we—they—generate the
wire transfer records.

"I sure hope you know what you are doing," Dean muttered, as he started
the car.

"Relax," Zak said. "You’ll get paid shortly. Cash." He tapped the
briefcase. Hoova had told him he could keep ten percent. That would be
enough to pay Dean, and a few bucks left over for himself. Zak was in a
good mood. All the stuff for Hoova had been voluntary—a freeby. Now
something was coming back.

True, Larry Meier hadn’t mentioned the part about the ten percent. But
that was Hoova’s problem. Ten percent. A tithe. Zak snickered to
himself. A tithe of a tithe. Ten percent from money OJS had collected as
tithes and offerings from his followers.

Hoova had told him to leave the tapes under some Mason jars in a paper
bag marked "Sally Rand" in the same place as previously.

"Chinatown!" Zak yelled. "Chinatown here we come!" Dean only glanced at
him and drove in silence.


* * * * *

Craig hit the button in the Hilton elevator. The woman who had called in
to headquarters wasn’t there anymore. Vacation or something. But the
suspect, Hermes T. Megistus, was still in his room. He hadn’t stirred
for twenty-four hours, apparently.

Craig just wanted to pass by. Check the location of the room number. Any
excuse to deal with the endless boredom of waiting for the suspect to
make a move. What was he doing in there anyway? Watching TV? Shacked up
with some whore?

Craig stepped out into the 10th floor and checked the location of the
room number. Down this way. Here it is . . .

The door was slightly ajar. Shit! Craig thought. It was three a.m. in
the morning. It couldn’t be the maid. So—was the suspect there or not?
Obviously he had come in or out—but no one had bothered to close the
door. Maybe the suspect had just gone down the hall for some ice. Craig
looked behind him. No one. But in that case there ought to be a light in
the room. The room was dark.

Craig hesitated. Then he knocked on the doorjamb.

"Mr. Megistus? Hotel security. We noticed your door was open."

He waited. Nothing. He listened. No sound.

Craig pushed open the door and slipped inside, fumbling for the light
switch. He hadn’t quite found it yet when he felt the sharp point. A
sting in his solar plexus.

He was still fumbling with the blade in his belly when he blacked out.


* * * * *

Edward Lodge was watching a basketball game to pass the time when the
STU-III rang on his desk. It was a new product that gave an encrypted
communication session.

Lodge didn’t really trust it. But at least he knew who was calling when
it rang.

"Yes," he answered, never taking his eyes off the TV screen.

"Um, hmm," he said several times as he listened. Then:

"Sanitize the trail. We don’t want it leading back here."

He hung up the phone and yelled at the TV: "Shoot! Shoot!"


* * * * *

Oral Jerry Swagger had gotten up early that morning. He was dressed in
his morning outfit—suspenders, red shirt, bow tie—when he went out for
the paper on the front lawn. Usually the housekeeper delivered it at 7
a.m. along with breakfast. But it was 6:30 and OJ was impatient for the
news.

The paper was half-way down the stone path to the front gate. OJ opened
up the Los Angeles Times, and stood there, reading and shaking his jowls
at the sin and corruption of the world.

Only gradually did he become aware of some blemish on his spacious front
lawn. The lawn had long ago been replanted with dichondra, which gave a
uniform green, in place of the patchy and fickle grass.

It was a human figure. OJ walked cautiously across the dichondra for a
closer look. The man was laying face down.

He tapped on the man’s shoulder.

"Get up!" he commanded sternly.

The man—still drunk—didn’t move.

OJ grabbed his shoulder, and with some effort flipped him 

[CTRL] Propagating the Faith

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Propagating the Faith

by Peter Topolewski


We ought to know we’re in trouble when even the socialists begin
labeling some of our most prized methods of governance "Soviet-style".
The term is only used derogatorily these days. That massive experiment
in bastardized Marxism was once the flagship of socialist dreams.

It often matched the best the West had to offer in science, military
might, and industrial production. But being the slow, lumbering behemoth
it was, the Soviet Union could produce only at great and fatal cost.
Through sheer quantity it hoped to produce quality, and so is now sadly
remembered mostly as a backward society propped up falsely on myths and
crushed under the weight of bureaucratic inefficiency and indifference.

A few months ago British Columbia’s deputy premier Dan Miller used
"Soviet-style" to describe the provincial management system for the
forestry industry – the province’s largest. In the interests of the
people and for the good of all – who own public land in some ways, and
don’t in many others – the BC government owns 96 percent of forest
lands, while private hands own 1 percent. By way of comparison, the US
government owns 28 percent of US forest lands while 59 percent is
privately held. In France, the government owns 12 percent and the
private sector 70 percent.

The forestry industry in Canada, and in particular BC, has an
unflattering reputation throughout the world for poor stewardship of its
public lands. While private ownership is not necessarily synonymous with
good stewardship, those countries with a preponderance of privately-held
forest lands by and large have a better record of managing the forestry
resource. The fact that in Canada no one using the "Crown land" has as
direct a stake in it, as they would in private land, must surely explain
part of this neglect. "Crown" – taken to mean the ruler and all his or
her subjects – really equals no one. And so rather than representing the
"good of all" the Crown effectively represents the good of no one.

When the Soviet Union’s façade looked its mightiest, it was also known
for the pervasive control of its subjects. This is much akin to what
forest policy in BC is about – a few controlling the many, ostensibly
with the interests of the many at heart. It is worth noting that the
deputy premier’s words caught his party and that of the official
opposition off guard. He made it sound as though the socialists (of
which he is a member) were ready to relinquish Soviet-style control. In
fact, they continue to be one of the biggest proprietors of oppressive
control – "for the good of all."

A Union Pension, Soviet-Style

In the last few weeks the deputy premier’s party has introduced
legislation to cut off union pensions to early retirees who go to work
for a non-union firm in the same field. The law will affect about 10,000
union members in 30 multi-employer pension plans; half of these members
are in the construction industry. For the average construction worker,
who has spent his life plying his trade and contributing to his pension,
retirement means collecting a monthly paycheck ranging from $500 to
$3000. If the pension is not enough to live on, as many retirees indeed
find, one and possibly the only option is returning to work.
Realistically, that means returning to what they know best – their
former field.

Coming soon, however, is the Soviet-style law that forbids such
practice. That is, the government has ordered that your pension money is
not yours to have, but the union’s to take away. And you do not have
either the freedom or the right to work where you please, rather only
the right to work where it might please the government and its union
friends. The legislation has been presented as a holy protector of the
many – that is, the active union members. Proponents of the legislation
argue that former members who in retirement go to work for non-union
companies undermine the unions; by virtue of their inherently lower
wages the non-union companies can outbid unionized ones. In some
quarters this has been called competition and is regarded as a virtue.
To the government it is a crime, in no small part because competition
reveals the false supports holding up the state ordered industriousness.
It is no coincidence that this language should be reminiscent of that
former Soviet society. The unions that the government wants so
vigorously to preserve share the Soviet Union’s inflexible, collectivist
traits. And so the provincial government legislation is completely in
line with the philosophy that the "good of all" need be protected, even,
perhaps especially, at the cost of individual liberty.

No doubt it is 

[CTRL] [3] Chaos and Fractals in Financial Markets

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Chaos and Fractals in Financial Markets

Part 3

by J. Orlin Grabbe

Hazardous World


Many things in life are random. They are governed by probability, by
chance, by hazard, by accident, by the god Hermes, by fortune. So we
measure them by probability—by our one-pound jar of jam.



Places where there is more jam are more likely to happen, but the next
outcome is uncertain. The next outcome might be a low probability event.
Or it might be a high probability event, but there may be more than one
of these.



Radioactive decay is measured by probability. The timing of the
spontaneous transformation of a nucleus (in which it emits radiation,
loses electrons, or undergoes fission) cannot be predicted with any
certainty.

Some people don’t like this aspect of the world. They prefer to believe
there are "hidden variables" which really determine radioactive decay,
and if we only understood what these hidden variables were, it would all
be precisely predictable, and we could return to the paradise of a
Laplacian universe.



Well, if there are hidden variables, I sure wish someone would identify
them. If wishes were horses, David Bohm would ride.[1] Albert Einstein
liked to say, "God doesn’t play dice." But if God wanted to play dice,
he didn’t need Albert Einstein’s permission. It sounds to me like
"hidden" is just another name for probability. "Was it an accident?"
"No, it was caused by hidden forces." Hidden variable theorists all
believe in conspiracy.



But, guess what? People who believe God doesn’t play dice use
probability theory just as much as everyone else. So, without further
ado, let’s return to our discussion of probability.

Coin Flips and Brownian Motion



We can create a kind of Brownian motion (or Bachelier process) by
flipping coins. We start with a variable x = 0. We flip a coin. If the
coin comes up heads, we add 1 to x. If the coin comes up tails, we
subtract 1 from x. If we denote the input x as x(n) and the output x as
x(n+1), we get a dynamical system:



x(n+1) = x(n) + 1, with probability p =
x(n+1) = x(n) – 1, with probability q =   .



Here n represents the current number of the coin flip, and is our
measure of time. So to create a graph of this system, we put n (time) on
the horizontal axis, and the variable x(n) on the vertical axis. This
gives a graph of a very simple type of Brownian motion (a random walk),
as seen in the graphic below. At any point in time (at any value of n),
the variable x(n) represents the total number of heads minus the total
number of tails. Here is one picture of 10,000 coin flips:





Much of finance is based on a simple probability model like this one.
Later we will change this model by changing the way we measure
probability,

A Simple Stochastic Fractal

Using probability, it is easy to create fractals. For example, here is a
dynamical system which creates a Simple Stochastic Fractal. The system
has two variables, x and y, as inputs and outputs:



x(n+1) = - y(n)
y(n+1) = x(n)

with probability p =   , but

x(n+1) = 1 + 2.8*(x(n)-1)/(x(n)*x(n)-2*x(n)+2+y(n)*y(n))
y(n+1) = 2.8*y(n)/(x(n)*x(n)-2*x(n)+2+y(n)*y(n))

with probability q =  .



We map x and y on a graph of two dimensions. If the coin flip comes up
heads, we iterate the system by the first two equations. This iteration
represents a simple 90-degree rotation about the origin (0,0). If the
coin flip comes up tails, we iterate the system by the second two
equations. This second type of iteration contracts or expands the
current point with respect to (1,0).

To see this Simple Stochastic Fractal system works in real time, be sure
Java is enabled on your web browser, and click here. [2]

Simple stochastic dynamical systems create simple fractals, like those
we see in nature and in financial markets. But in order to get from
Bachelier to Mandelbrot, which requires a change in the way we measure
probability, it will be useful for us to first think about something
simpler, such as the way we measure length.

One we’ve learned to measure length, we’ll find that probability is jam
on toast.

Sierpinski and Cantor Revisited



In Part 2, when we looked at Sierpinski carpet, we noted that a
Sierpinski carpet has a Hausdorff dimension D = log 8/log 3 = 1.8927… So
if we have a Sierpinski carpet with length 10 on each side, we get



N = rD = 10D = 101.8927 = 78.12



smaller copies of the original. (For a nice round number, we can take 9
feet on a side, and get N = 91.8927 = 64 smaller copies.) Since each of
these smaller copies has a length of one foot on each side, we can call
these "square feet". But really they are "square Sierpinskis", because
Sierpinski carpet is not like ordinary 

[CTRL] Newspeak

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Newspeak

by Sunni Maravillosa


Ayn Rand was right when she repeatedly pointed out that words have
precise meanings. While it is true that many words have more than one
meaning, a good wordsmith will make the intended meaning clear by
context and careful use of words. Words are the tools of communication,
and, just like any other tool, they can be wielded skillfully or
ineptly, used properly or twisted to fit the purpose of the writer.

Today’s climate of political correctness provides an excellent example
of twisting words into new meanings—welcome, Orwellian Newspeak! Such
obfuscatory use of language is not new; it’s a favorite and well-worn
tool of propagandists everywhere. Unfortunately, today’s liberals (now
there’s a good example of a word twist) use it to give the appearance of
valuing individuals and liberty while snatching more and more choices
from a person’s grasp. (Conservatives don’t try to reinvent language so
much as simply repeat their tired old phrases, hoping against hope that
someone will eventually take them seriously.)

One of the more insidious results of language-twisting is that over
time, the culture absorbs the new usage and it becomes accepted.
Protests against the shift are apt to be labeled as ‘old-fashioned’ or
‘purist’, and tend to be dismissed. It’s through this process that
America has become a huge welfare state, that taxes (often labeled
"fees") have been largely accepted, and that our freedom has been
eroded. Although pro-freedom ideas do make their way into mainstream
culture in various media, they are vastly outnumbered by the
collectivist ideas—consider how successful "public good" arguments are,
for example. A more recent example is the change from "minimum wage" to
"living wage"—as if the words make any difference to those struggling to
live on that salary!

So, what’s a freedom-loving individual to do to try to counteract these
linguistic games? Rather than trying to win on the Newspeak playing
field, we are better served resurrecting some words and adding them to
our arsenal. Used precisely, and with explanation where required, these
thought-bombs can help spread our ideas, and possibly even open the eyes
of some who currently swim with the prevailing statist current.

A Few Choice Words

The first suggestion I have involves an old Soviet term: refusenik. The
refuseniks were individuals—mostly Jews—who were denied permission to
leave the Soviet Union. Many continued to re-apply until they were
finally permitted to emigrate; the longest period on record is of a
refusenik who waited 20 years before being able to leave. Their
lives—already unpleasant—became more challenging once it became known
that they wanted to leave the country, but for most the desire to live
in freedom surpassed the obstacles placed before them. It was their
refusal to cooperate—to live under the communist system—that led to the
state’s refusal to allow them to leave.

We who value our freedom can refuse to cooperate with freedom-destroying
laws, and become refuseniks in our own right. Don’t like how the second
amendment has been gutted? Call yourself a gun-control refusenik. Can’t
abide by arbitrary laws that limit your freedom of choice of
mind-altering substances? Become a War-on-Some-Drugs refusenik. Dislike
all forms of tyranny? You’re a control refusenik, a New World Order
refusenik, or somesuch—you get the idea.

The term refusenik is a particularly good one, because many people think
they know what it means—almost everyone knows it relates to the Soviet
Union in an unflattering way. That linkage gives the term extra mileage
for our cause. By presenting the choice to ignore laws that stifle
liberty as a personal refusal to cooperate, the freedom-enhancing
aspects of the choice are emphasized over the law-breaking aspect. If
every individual who took issue with some aspect of the state’s use of
force to control its citizens adopted this nomenclature, and started
using it in e-mail signature files, on web sites, and in letters to
congresscritters, its spread would be phenomenal—and unable to ignore.
Using this word highlights how authoritarian the United States is
becoming—like the old Soviet Union was. What a great way to give the
statist scum some well-deserved heartburn!

Abolitionist is another word with a valuable historical link that ought
to be used more frequently. When they hear it, most Americans think of
the Civil War, and of the abolitionists who worked to free the slaves.
While it appears to many that freedom triumphed, the actual result was
to make slaves of us all, in terms of affirmative action, hate speech as
a crime, discrimination, and reverse discrimination. 

Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a*long* time.

Why should there be a single explanation of what UFOs are? It seems to me
that the odds are overwhelming that some UFOs are one kind of thing and
other UFOs are something else. While I'm hesitant to dismiss out of hand
an extra-terrestrial and/or "inter-dimensional" origin for some UFO, I am
extremely skeptical. Occam's Razor dictates that we should consentrate our
study on the hypothesis that they are of terrestrial origin, flown in
secret by both governments and non governmental enterprises and
organizations. Some are prototypes of new technology being flown in tests.
Others we should be consider as part of a massive psy-op. The mass,
instant pycho-social effects of Orson Welles's "War of the Worlds" was not
lost on the power that be. Eleven months later Goebbles went on the radio
and told the German people that the Fatherland had been invaded, not by
Martians but (even more plausably) by Poles. The Germans fell for it hook,
line and sinker. So if the "benevelent space brothers" land and proclaim
they are here to help save us from ourselves and by the way meet their
official (Nordic looking?) human representatives who will speak for them
and should be obeyed, when they head back up the ramp to their saucer,
check for a zipper up their back. They're probably not aliens; they're
probably aryans, putting one over on us again.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Stratfor's Third Quarter Forecast

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous





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Stratfor's Third Quarter Forecast
June 27, 1999


Note: This Forecast should be read in conjunction with Stratfor's
Decade Forecast prepared in 1995
(http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/decade.asp),
its 1999 Annual Forecast (http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/1999.asp)
and its Second Quarter, 1999 Forecast
(http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/2q1999.asp)



Stratfor's organizing theme for its 1999 Annual Forecast is found
in the title: "A New and Dangerous World."  That concept remains
valid and the fundamental trends identified within that theme
remain intact.   The most important trend identified in that
forecast has now become manifest.  We wrote that "Russia and China
will be moving into a closer, primarily anti-American alliance in
1999."  That process is the most important global trend today.  It
is well under way and is also intensifying.

It should be understood that this trend was not put into play
because of the Kosovo crisis, although it is clear that it was
intensified and accelerated by it.  Indeed, Stratfor's ability to
predict the Kosovo crisis in its 1999 Annual Forecast was
predicated on this trend already being in place.  A critical
element in Milosevic's strategy was his view that the deteriorating
relationship between Russia and the United States had opened a
window of opportunity for dealing with the Kosovo situation.  It
was precisely because Milosevic saw this process in Russian foreign
policy as already under way that he took the risks he did.  At the
same time, Milosevic's failure to allow U.S.-Russian tensions to
mature opened Serbia to a partial reversal in Russian policy that
left him in a series of untenable positions.

The split between Russia and China on one hand and the United
States on the other has still not fully matured.  Therefore, the
response, a Sino-Russian alliance, has not yet fully taken shape.
Nevertheless, matters are rapidly moving in that direction.
Therefore, it is our view that the single most important global
theme of the Third Quarter of 1999 will be fairly quiet, yet
intense, diplomacy between Russia and China as they explore the
precise meaning and implementation of their strategic relationship.
A summit meeting will take place in Beijing between Boris Yeltsin
and Jiang Zemin some time this summer or autumn.  The precise date
is not altogether certain at this point.  There are two reasons for
this uncertainty.  First, and most important, there is a tremendous
amount of work to be done at the ministerial level and below prior
to the summit.  It is one thing to speak of a strategic alliance.
It is another thing to implement one.  There are some real issues
outstanding between Russia and China.  Second, both Russia and
China will use the available time to try to extract concessions
from the United States and the West in general, under the
assumption that they will be eager to prevent a Sino-Russian
alliance from solidifying.  Both of these reasons point to a fairly
slow process.

There are fundamental geopolitical issues that need to be resolved
by the Russians and Chinese.  The most important of these is the
status of the Central Asian republics of the former Soviet Union.
China is experiencing substantial unrest from Moslem groups in its
Xinjiang province.  These groups are drawing support from, at
least, elements within predominantly Moslem states of the former
Soviet Union, and perhaps from some of the states themselves.
China clearly wants Russia's help in dealing with that problem.
Russia, however, is hesitant at this point to get bogged down in
pacifying the region.  Yet, at the same time that it is hesitant,
there is a growing movement inside of Russia that regards the
collapse of the Soviet Union as a monumental error and which dreams
of its geographic, if not institutional, resurrection.  We think
these forces are gaining strength, which means that there is
growing support for a more expansionary Russian foreign policy.
The geopolitics of the region may actually be a force pulling
Russian hard-liners and Beijing closer together.

A more important issue on the table is what the alliance will mean
in relation to the United States.  The purpose of the alliance is
twofold.  First, it is to create a counter-weight to the United
States that would force the U.S. to take Russia and China
seriously.  The second purpose would be to provide a focal point
for secondary states looking for a safe haven from American power,
which would, in turn, enhance the power of the Sino-Russian bloc.
What this means in practical terms is unclear.  It might range from
a general policy of coordination to a mutual defense pact pledging
each side to support the others' wars.  Neither side wants to be
excessively exposed to the adventures and vulnerabilities of the
other.  At the same time, too loose a relationship leaves room 

[CTRL] thug hubbell cops a plea

1999-06-28 Thread Peter L. Sroufe

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just reported on fox news channel.
no details yet.

Bard

Visit me at:
The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm

Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

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[CTRL] George W. Bush Jr.

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://members.tripod.com/~Borocar/bush.htm
A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~Borocar/bush.htm"George W. Bush Jr. and
the Ribbon Thing
/A
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How do you like your blue-eyed boy, Mr. Death?
 "Medium Rare, please." -- G.W. Bush

Hi. I'm George W. Bush Jr. I want to be your next president.
No, there's no good reason why I should get the job, but when has that
ever stopped a Bush, eh? See. . . you can't answer!

Besides, the lame ass conservatives will vote for me, since they would
rather compromise with evil than see evil itself (Mr. Algore) in the
White House. Hey, with minds like that, how can I lose?

But don't worry, folks, I'm really just a good old boy.


Just like most of you, I played around with fast women, back when they
would look at me (don't worry, they won't anymore). I also played around
with drugs, but I've learned my lesson well, and nowadays I believe that
an underprivileged inner city youth who gets caught with cocaine
(~sniff, sniff~) deserves about twenty five years in the penitentiary.
So, as you see, I've matured!

I also believe in telling the truth (before it shoots me in the foot),
so I wanna come "clean" and let you know that I'm a bit of a madcap. You
see, back in my days at the University, I joined an interesting secret
society, known as "Skull and Bones." Well, I can't say very much about
it (after all, it's a secret society), but I will confess that during my
initiation, I spent some quality time laid back buck naked in a moldy
old coffin. There's more! While I lay in that dank nasty box, I had a
ribbon tied around my weenie. What color ribbon? Sorry, I'm not allowed
to say. Anyway, just let me assure you that it will never happen again,
and hey, even if it does, don't you think having a ribbon around your
thing is less immoral than having the post pubescent lips of an intern
clamped tightly in the same position? I just knew you'd see things my
 way! Thank you, and DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!
-- G. W. Bush


P.S. If you like, view a picture of the offending Weenie Ribbon here.

Alan Keys does not "buy" Bush:
Why Bush Fails Alan Key's Litmus Test (you must read this)

News from the "Hill:"
Republicans - still beating around the "Bush" (Jim Hill)


[ Top ] [ See the Weenie Ribbon ]

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Why Bush fails my litmus test


I got an e-mail the other day from someone urging me to get behind
George W. Bush so that the Republicans could unite behind someone
(anyone?) and, supposedly, win the presidency.
I have said for months that I simply would not support George W. Bush.
My decision was confirmed again this week when Bush announced that as
president he would not have a "pro-life litmus test" for his judicial
nominations. Of course, Gore and Clinton will put death-dealers on the
Court no matter what, and make it very clear that this is what they are
going to do. So why should those of us who understand the devastation
that our abandonment of moral principle is causing in American life and
conscience be expected to put up with so-called "pro-life" Republicans
who simply decline to oppose the culture of death by straightforwardly
championing the agenda of life?

When George W. Bush says that he isn't going to have a pro-life litmus
test, we should ask, "Why not have a litmus test?" The pro-abortion
forces have a litmus test. Why does the supposed Republican champion
hold that evil people can make evil a litmus test, but good people
shouldn't make good a litmus test? Let's examine a little more closely
what is really implied by the phrase "litmus test."

Refusing to have a litmus test on abortion means, in my opinion,
refusing to defend principle, or to uphold integrity. Because if you
have integrity and principles, then the principles themselves, and your
active defense of them, constitute a litmus test. Since principles have
consequences, certain stands on certain issues will be reflective of
those principles. So if a leader has a clear sense of the principles
that need to govern his judgment and conscience he will be alert for
those great issues that can arise under our Constitution -- I call them
"Declaration Issues" -- in which our fundamental principles come to the
surface and must be defended and renewed.

Such principles aren't arbitrarily chosen, and they aren't dependent on
the "personal philosophy" of any particular leader. 

Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

I'm of the opinion that UFO's are actually interdeminsional/supernatural
objects, and then you have the ones the "Government" created...

Jamie

-Original Message-
From: nessie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the "UFO"


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whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a*long* time.

Why should there be a single explanation of what UFOs are? It seems to me
that the odds are overwhelming that some UFOs are one kind of thing and
other UFOs are something else. While I'm hesitant to dismiss out of hand
an extra-terrestrial and/or "inter-dimensional" origin for some UFO, I am
extremely skeptical. Occam's Razor dictates that we should consentrate our
study on the hypothesis that they are of terrestrial origin, flown in
secret by both governments and non governmental enterprises and
organizations. Some are prototypes of new technology being flown in tests.
Others we should be consider as part of a massive psy-op. The mass,
instant pycho-social effects of Orson Welles's "War of the Worlds" was not
lost on the power that be. Eleven months later Goebbles went on the radio
and told the German people that the Fatherland had been invaded, not by
Martians but (even more plausably) by Poles. The Germans fell for it hook,
line and sinker. So if the "benevelent space brothers" land and proclaim
they are here to help save us from ourselves and by the way meet their
official (Nordic looking?) human representatives who will speak for them
and should be obeyed, when they head back up the ramp to their saucer,
check for a zipper up their back. They're probably not aliens; they're
probably aryans, putting one over on us again.

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[CTRL] Jefferson, Hank Williams, Sr., Elvis, and Patsy Cline

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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from alt.conspiracy
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Om
K
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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:534157"Jefferson, Hank Williams, Sr.,
Elvis, and Patsy Cline
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Subject: Jefferson, Hank Williams, Sr., Elvis, and Patsy Cline
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kansan1225)
Date: Sun, 27 June 1999 11:22 AM EDT
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Douglas E. Hunter wrote:

Elvis is a combination of "El",  which used to denote God or a god.  Vis has
the same origin as vision or visualize.

Therefore, to see Elvis is to see god.

Right!

Kansan1225  the most entertaining of trolls.

Don't take him too seriously,  I don't think he takes himself seriously.  I
think  he's playing the "devils advocate" as much as anything.

Regards,

Doug. P.M. #711
Nashville, TN


  I do understand that my claims are incredible to anyone who has not
studied these matters, but consider the case of the sainted Patsy Cline.

  Her original name was Virginia Patterson Hensley.  She was given the
name Virginia because she was born on September 8, the feast day of the
birthday of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

  When she became involved with CLuM operatives in Nashville, they forced
her to change her stage name to "Patsy" (Cline was the surname of her
husband).
 She was used by them to sing paeans to the powers of the air, such as "The
Wayward Wind", and Rosicrucian anthems, like "San Antonio Rose".

  Eventually she was sacrificed by them at the young age of 30 in an
airplane "accident".  This happened on March 5, 1963, at the time of Purim.
Purim is a Jewish holiday celebrating the slaughter of Goyim.

  This "accident" took place a few short months before another "patsy",
Lee
Harvey Oswald, i.e., the "Powerful Levite Aharon", met his fate in Dallas.



Kansan1225 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  Dr. Roger M. Firestone wrote:

 * "Williams" is related to "Levi" only in the delusions of Kansan1225.
   The two names come from linguistic groups (Indo-European, Semitic)
   which are completely unconnected.  Kansan1225's attempt to relate them
   through reversing syllables of a German diminutive form of William
   (and of course, those syllables don't correspond to those of Levi) is
   utterly laughable.  No philologist or etymologist would give the
   slightest credence to this notion, yet it forms the foundation of most
   of Kansan1225's insane mutterings.
 

   CLuMs do not always follow philology in their productions.
Sometimes the
 prefabricated names of the Conspirators and their victims are encrypted
 Baconian cyphers.

   A good example is the name of the CLuM sacrificial victim Elvis
Aaron
 Presley.  "Elvis" is an anagram for "Levis", or "Levi's".  The decoded
CLuM
 form of his name is "Levi's Aaron Priestly", or "Aaron, the Priestly
 (descendant) of Levi".

   Elvis was sacrificed in Memphis on August 16, 1977, at the time of
the
 New Moon of Leo (the Lion of Judah), after a Blue Moon.

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Amen.
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[CTRL] Chinese Embassy:Just an Accident Besides They Were Spies

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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Om
K
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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:534150"Chinese Embassy:Just an
Accident  Besides They Were Spies
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Subject: Chinese Embassy:Just an Accident  Besides They Were Spies
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Chinese Embassy:Just an Accident  Besides They Were Spies


Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit
...

America: The Pathological Liar Spins a New Tale

So the Chinese don't buy the tale of old maps and the analyst
who wondered but went off on training, etc etc etc?  They don't
buy it. It's inconvincing. OK...

Well, in that case, it never happened, and besides, they deserved it:
We didn't kill journalists, we killed spies -- two of them, anyway.
Yeah... that's it! They had spies in their embassy! Imagine, just like
every embassy in the world.

And not only that -- you know the part of the embassy we bombed by
accident? Well that was the Intelligence center, and as we all know
the Chinese were reliably reported to be helping those Serb savages...
But of course, it was just an accident smirk!!

Only they don't believe us so now we have the chutzpah to change the
whole story and we'll use anonymous leaks to thumb our noses at
those Chinese. "
*

Saturday June 26, 4:34 pm Eastern Time

Spies, not journalists, died in China embassy -US

WASHINGTON, June 26 (Reuters) - Two of the three Chinese killed last month
when U.S. bombs hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade were intelligence
agents, not journalists as China has said, a senior U.S. official said on
Saturday.

`It is true that they were not journalists. Two were intelligence agents,''
said the official, who asked not to be identified.

The official confirmed a report in the New York Times on Friday that two of
the three Chinese killed were spies, not journalists. China has said one of
those killed worked for the official Xinhua news agency and the other two, a
husband-and-wife team, worked for Guangming Daily.

The U.S. official said that the bombs, dropped by U.S. B-2 stealth bombers
on May 7, `hit a part of the embassy that was involved in intelligence
gathering.''

The incident sparked anti-U.S. protests in China and further strained
relations between the two countries.

The United States repeatedly has apologized to China for the bombing, which
also wounded about 20 other people. U.S. Undersecretary of State Thomas
Pickering recently traveled to China to explain what happened, but China
said the explanation was unconvincing.

The United States has blamed a series of errors, including outdated CIA maps
and databases that did not show the embassy had moved to a new location. The
intended target, a Yugoslav military procurement office, was located nearby.

Defense Department spokesman Ken Bacon said on Thursday an intelligence
analyst at the CIA tried to warn colleagues and military officers in Europe
that the intended target was not at that location, although he did not know
the Chinese embassy was there.

In another development, the leader of Serbia's main opposition party told a
German newspaper he suspected that Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic had
received an offer of political asylum from China.

`I have indications that Milosevic has received an offer to flee to China,
get asylum there and therefore not be handed over to The Hague,'' Democratic
Party leader Zoran Djindjic said in an interview due to appear in the Sunday
newspaper Bild am Sonntag.

Milosevic has been indicted by the U.N. war crimes tribunal, which is based
at The Hague in the Netherlands.

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Em Hotep, Peace Be,
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All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
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Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity

1999-06-28 Thread Mike Jackson

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Just to clear the air from someones earlier brain fart:

Jesus Christ is responsible for only one murder; and that is his own. And as
far as him personally being responsible for "rape, murder, theft  slavery"
in a historical sense, those are strong accusations against the person that,
whether you like it, disagree with it, understand it or not died for you.

"With God all things are possible."

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From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Teo One Thousand
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 10:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity


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In a message dated 6/26/99 7:17:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Jesus is alive and well, thank you!
  
  
  That' your opinion. The majority of people
   disagree.

   And, he doesn't think for ushe guides us, strengthens  us,

  So it's his fault you people have raped, murdered, stolen and enslaved
for
  a millinia and a half?

   and teaches us forgiveness. and we need all that strength and
  foregiveness to tolerate the liberals.

  If you can tell a liberal from a conservative, more power to you. As for
  me, no matter whether I look to the left or the right, if I look far
  enough I see EXACTLY the same thing: a bunch of guys with guns who want
to
  tell me how to screw, which drugs to take and when to show up for work.


First of all saying that "we all need Jesus" is proselytizing and has no
place here.  You may have your beliefs but do not try and tell others they
need to share them with you.  That said, Nessie's response was unnecessarily
harsh against the beliefs of the original poster.  Saying that "you people"
implying this individual and all Christians approve of rape and the other
things you identify, as well as carry them out, is just designed to inflame
so please refrain from this tactic.  One can point out the history of
Christianity and make a case for "the church" causing much death and other
harm during it's existence but let's NOT make this a personal issue or
attack
each other in such a way.
Thank you.
Teo1000

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[CTRL] They Are the Eggmen

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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from alt.conspiracy
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Om
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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:533959"They Are the Eggmen/A
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Subject: They Are the Eggmen
From: "Tom Keske" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 June 1999 09:51 PM EDT
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They Are the Eggmen

It is curious how two popular threads of news stories can persist at such
great length, yet never seem to find their obvious connection, in the
public mind.

One thread is about emerging diseases- all the new ones that appeared
for the first time between the 1960s and 1980s:  AIDS, ebola, hanta,
lyme disease, Legionnaire's disease, Gulf War Syndrome, mad cow,
Chronic Fatigue.

The other thread is about biological warfare and bioterrorism: how
easy it is, how inevitable it is, how dangerous it is, how little it costs,
how even small nations, cults, and individuals are capable of pursuing
it.

By what willful madness or blindness is it, that the public so little
questions the possible relationship between these two threads?

Can we really trust that our own governments have really ceased
the pursuit of biological and chemical weaponry, and that there have been
no accidents, no acts of covert aggression?

In 1972, under President Nixon, the U.S. signed the Biological and
Toxin Weapons Convention, an agreement that banned the development and
stockpiling of biological weapons.  Russia also signed.  Was this agreement
really observed?

We now know the truth in Russia: in 1973, just a year after the agreement,
Russia launched Biopreparat, a biowar reasearch-and-production program
that was enormous in scale [1].

But what of the U.S.?  Nixon had turned Fort Detrick, the notorious biowar
research center, into a "cancer research" center.  As a later outgrowth,
this
research would involve eerily AIDS-like viruses. [2]

This was "Tricky Dick" Nixon, whose staff admits to plots of political
murder [3], who plotted to have Teamster thugs beat up antiwar protestors,
who once plotted to stage a phony burglary of GOP headquarters, and
try to blame it on Democrats.One of the Watergate criminals, Gordon
Liddy, admits in his autobiography to showing a Nazi propaganda
film to his own children.  The is but the smallest sample to illustrate
the flavor of the Nixon White House.  Can we really trust
this man at his word?

Why was it that the Russians continued their biowar research so cynically,
barely missing a beat, lying through their teeth?

The Soviets were convinced that the U.S. had not ended its bioweapons
program,
but simply turned it into a "black" weapons program [1].

"The notion that the Americans had given up their biological weapons was
thought of as the great American lie", a British intelligence officer
recalls [1].

The American public has been conditioned to regard such beliefs
automatically
as "paranoia" or "propaganda".  However, as the Aldrich Ames affair, or the
Chinese infiltration of Los Alamos might seem to remind us- the Russians
have
one advantage that the American public does not: they had well-placed spies.
They may well have been in a position to know about matters, where
own newspapers can merely guess.

Has either country *ever* given up all biowar research, even today?

In 1993, a Cambridge multi-millionaire philanthropist, who is also a
friend from my high-school and college days, gave a $10,000 award
for Moral Courage to a Vil Mirazayanov, a Russian chemist who worked
for many years at the Research Institute for Organic Chemistry, a secret
institute in Moscow.  He was arrested for "revealing state secrets", which
roughly translated, means that he blew the whistle on continuing chemical
weapons development.

Dr. Frank Malinoski, who was a member of the British-American team that
inspected the Russian Biopreparat facilities, says "If the Biopreparat was
once an egg, then the weapons program was the yolk of the egg.  They've
hardboiled the egg, taken out the yolk, and hidden it."  It is generally
believed that the weapons program was taken over by the Russian
Ministry of Defense." [1]   Meanwhile, there is strong suspicion that
even some of the more visible laboratories are conducting weapons-related
genetic engineering.

In the next few installments, we will try to break open the mysterious
eggshell
a bit further: has there been any evidence of lab accidents or covert use
of biological weapons, in the background of conventional warfare, that
might provide some context for the picture of emerging diseases?

Tom Keske
Boston, Mass.

References:

[1] The Bioweaponeers, The New Yorker, 3/98, by Richard Preston
  http://www.jya.com/bioweap.htm

[2] Emerging Viruses: AIDS  Ebola, Nature Accident or Intentional,
  Leonard Horowitz, Tetrahedron Publishing.

[3]  "Will" - the autobiography of Gordon Liddy
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
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Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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If you know of an optimal set of political/economic/philosophical social
structures, please inform us.

You already know the basics. You learned them in kindergarten. Share.
Clean up your mess. Don't hit. Learning is fun.

Bypass, ignore and/or resist the state and those who control it. Promote
and practice self government, direct democracy, mutual aid, mutual
defence, and worker-owned, worker self-managed production. Don't exploit
the labor, resources and ignorance of others. Share, cooperate, educate.
Let no one suffer unnecessarily. An injury to one is an injury to all.
Take personal responsibility for the safety, health and well being of each
other and quit palming the job off onto the state. Treat each individual
as an individual and each group  as a group. Don't confuse the two. Judge
each by his, her or their own actions, not by those of his, her or their
ancestors.  Respect each other's right to their own religious (or
anti-religious) beliefs and don't try to force others to practice the
tenets of your religion. People have the right to do what thay want to,
and with, their own bodies; respect thier right and require that they
respect yours.  Respect and nurture the Earth. War against ignorance.
Conserve. Recycle. Create. And above all, DIY.

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[CTRL] Fwd: (en) Mega unions in S. Africa - What do they mean for socialism

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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  A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
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   MEGA-UNIONS: WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR SOCIALISM?

SA Communist Party (SACP) general secretary, Blade
Nzimande, is CEPPWAWU's new honorary president. Whether
this move could be an indicator of the future formation
of a communist-labour political party to the left of the
ANC remains to be seen.

But workers must not put their faith in this. Remember
that political parties, even left-wing ones, continue to
exploit the working class because they don't abolish the
exploitation of the working majority by a small elite,
even if it is an elite of "comrades".

And remember also, that the sheer size of a union means
nothing to the workers - unless it is internally
democratic.  Unless the entire membership has direct
control over the mega-union, instead of it being
controlled by its own elite class of paid bureaucrats, it
will never be an effective fighting force for the members
and the working class as a whole. COSATU president, John
Gomomo, himself warned of this, saying: "We must get back
to the basics of trade unionism and prioritise the basic
servicing of our members".  He also said labour would
wage "a bitter offensive" against the ANC's anti-worker
GEAR economic policy.

Sadly, CEPPWAWU has also indicated it will establish an
investment arm to raise funds. The danger of investing in
capitalist firms is that workers may one day find
themselves prevented by union leadership from striking
because the union has investments in the company the
workers are fighting.

Buthelezi warned that if CEPPWAWU ever decided to strike,
it would "stop the whole country". "We know that
employers are panicking," he smiled, recalling that in
recent years, CWIU had forced chemicals company, AECI and
fuel processor, Sasol, to pay millions of Rands into
social funds to protect workers who were retrenched. He
said this was necessary because about 400 workers a month
were being laid off in the sector covered by the new
union: chemical, petroleum, packaging, glass and
printing. Buthelezi estimated that the CEPPWAWU had the
potential to grow to about 150 000 members.  He said
potential leadership problems had been avoided by having
the two founder unions split leadership posts equally
between them. Whether this will strengthen the left or
the right in the union is not clear. PPWAWU was more
conservative and ANC-linked than CWIU.

This article is from the South African anarchist group
   Workers Solidarity Federation.

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Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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 From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
 Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:01 PM

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 On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Hilary A. Thomas wrote:

 
  This one is really good!!
 

 snip

 It would have been better, and a tad more real, had it gone
 something like this:

  
   Dear Jesus,
   I've thought about being a good boy this year and
   can I have a bicycle?
   Leroy
  
   Well, Leroy looked deep down in his heart, which by the way
   was what his mother really wanted.  He knew he had been
   terrible and was deserving of almost nothing.  He crumpled up the

 He crumpled up the letter, threw it in the trash can, ran
 down to his school and ripped one off, a much nicer one than his
 momma could have ever afforded in a million years.

I forgot to mention that he felt good about himself after he
ganked his new bike, and he appreciated this "new" bike much more
than any new one his momma would have bought him because felt in
his heart that HE WORKED FOR AND EARNED THIS ONE!

Hiya Michael,

I can see by Part 1 and 2 of your accounting that you're going for the
touch of realism.  I like it!!!

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] Corruption of language

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Corruption of language
 Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 9:56 PM

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 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  The most effective conspiracies are implemented so slowly that no one
  ever notices them.

 Languages evolve.  If one believes that at some point their language
 was at a pinnacle of perfection, able to describe every item and event
 that humanity encountered, then ANY change is corruption.  Thus, any
 change in American English since the days of misogynestic slaveholding
 theocracy amounts to 'corruption' and is bad bad bad...

Yes'em.  It be bad, bad, bad

The KJV bible
 didn't mention kilobytes, so you shouldn't either, eh?

kilobytes, kilobytes, kilobytes...hehehe

Of course, if
 you use a cellphone, eat organic foods or know how to edit your Win98
 registry, you're one of the corrupted and are damned damned damned...

How about if I do one out of three?

   Ric "corrupting language on a daily basis" Carter

Er, shouldn't this read:  Ric "corrupting language, small furry creatures,
and the occasional elm tree?"

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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supernatural

Nothing is supernatural. There is, however, much of nature that we do not
yet understand.

believe

Believe is what we do when we don't know for sure. In short, belief is
nothinhg morer than a hopeful guess,  uually based on nothing more than
hearsay. When I don't know for sure, and I absolutely have to guess, I
don't believe; I doubt. This way I'm right more often than I'm wrong.

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Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Jesus Christ is responsible for only one murder; and that is his own.


Agreed. (Assuming, of coure, that the story is more or less true.)

And as far as him personally being responsible for "rape, murder, theft 
slavery" in a historical sense, those are strong accusations against the
person

That's not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth. I said, I say, and I
will continue to say that Christians have raped, murdered, stolen and
enslaved more than any other single group in history, though their first
cousins the Muslim run a fairly  close second. I say this because it is
the truth. Commies aren't even in the running. They were flash-in-the-pans
and lasted less then a century. As for the Nazis, it remains to be seen.
At the moment, they are doing better than ever, epecially since they
switched shirt colors to white. "Tarnug" this is called in German, "The
magical hood that renders it wearer invisable."

I'm not saying (necessarily) that Christians have committed their
depredations for a millinia and a half BECAUSE they were Christians. I DO
say that Christianity did not make them refrain.

that, whether you like it, disagree with it, understand it or not died
for you.

You're welcome to believe that if you want. I don't.  I'm also tired of
hearing about it. I don't need "died for." I take full responsibility for
my own actions and their consequences, and for nobody else's. I do,
however, appreciate your concern for what you consider my immortal soul.
Thank you for your concern.

I do believe that there was probably a real live guy named Jesus who was
apparantly a pretty nice guy, smart, compassionate, and articulate. How
much of what he is alleged to have said he actually did say, there is no
way to know for sure. How much of what he actually said was censored from
scripture by those who exploit  and distort  his story for their own ends
is also impossible to tell. Much, would be a good guess. Reincarnation,
for example, was part of Christian belief until it was voted out at the
Council of Nicea and scripture was "adjusted" accordingly.

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Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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nessie wrote:

 whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a*long* time.

 Why should there be a single explanation of what UFOs are?


I don't believe I said that there was one single theory explainig UFOs.
I suggested three excellent books to read on the topic.


 It seems to me
 that the odds are overwhelming that some UFOs are one kind of thing and
 other UFOs are something else. While I'm hesitant to dismiss out of hand
 an extra-terrestrial and/or "inter-dimensional" origin for some UFO, I am
 extremely skeptical. Occam's Razor dictates that we should consentrate our
 study on the hypothesis that they are of terrestrial origin, flown in
 secret by both governments and non governmental enterprises and
 organizations. Some are prototypes of new technology being flown in tests.
 Others we should be consider as part of a massive psy-op. The mass,
 instant pycho-social effects of Orson Welles's "War of the Worlds" was not
 lost on the power that be. Eleven months later Goebbles went on the radio
 and told the German people that the Fatherland had been invaded, not by
 Martians but (even more plausably) by Poles. The Germans fell for it hook,
 line and sinker. So if the "benevelent space brothers" land and proclaim
 they are here to help save us from ourselves and by the way meet their
 official (Nordic looking?) human representatives who will speak for them
 and should be obeyed, when they head back up the ramp to their saucer,
 check for a zipper up their back. They're probably not aliens; they're
 probably aryans, putting one over on us again.


Or elves. They do the same thing - with quite a lot of glee.

Kelly

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Re: [CTRL] Private Lives Laid Bare on Net

1999-06-28 Thread Kelly

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Kris Millegan wrote:


 Private Lives Laid Bare on Net
 by James Glave
 12:25 p.m.  25.Jun.99.PDT
 Voices drift through the ether, over cell phones, from somewhere in
 Vancouver, British Columbia.
 In a heavy working-class Canadian accent, a man says good morning to his
 girlfriend, who is half asleep. She asks him if there's any coffee left.


This is so hilarious!  I'd like to point out that there is no heavy
Canadian working class accent.  Now, if you are in the Maritimes - aye,
they do have a wee bit of an accent and some of em talk really fast!  In
Quebec, well of course there they speak French and/or Irish - so yep!
Accents there!  In Ontario, where there are no accents, the *boyfriends*
ask the *girlfriends* if there is any coffee.  See, a lot of men are
incapable of making it themselves!  But that's okay!  Some men just need
to be taken care of!  Now - heading out into Western Canada - well,
nobody cares what they think anyway.  Perhaps they do speak with foreign
accents out there.  You should write and ask the *Alberta Report* that.

Kelly

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Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Or elves. They do the same thing

As does, so it seems, ELF.

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Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Hilary A. Thomas wrote:

  From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
  Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:01 PM


  On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Hilary A. Thomas wrote:
 
  
   This one is really good!!
  
 
  snip
 
  It would have been better, and a tad more real, had it gone
  something like this:
 
   
Dear Jesus,
I've thought about being a good boy this year and
can I have a bicycle?
Leroy


Wow!  CTRL is a fascinating list!  I never thought about writing a
letter to Jesus before!  What a great concept!  I wonder what his email
address is?  Does anyone have it!  Please!  Give it to me!  Here is a
rough draft of my letter:

Hi Jesus!

It is me.  Yes, you-know-who yet-again.  This time, all I want is a
stupid freaking bike with like red stripes on it okay?  That is all I am
asking!  Nothing else!  Okay?  Okay.  Oh!  And since I said 'nothing
else' you'll probably stick me in some singularity of a universe where
just me and the bike exists, right?  Right!  So, I don't want the stupid
friggin bike, okay?  Okay!

Thank you good sir for allowing me to hastily withdraw my petition for a
bike.

Kelly

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[CTRL] David Icke....The Greatest Secret.....AND FreeMasons

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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http://www.reptoids.com/_discarticles/00ad.htm



***The creepy part about these gatherings is when new
pieces of information fit PERFECTLY with that which we
already know.

I went to the lecture on a lark. I love new information and
unusual experiences. Mr. Icke is definitely
entertaining...the crowd was there from 1 pm to 10:30 that
night...with only a few breaks. And even then, most were
eating sandwiches while swamping Icke for more individual
answers.

Three things struck me specifically.

1.] When he spoke of the evil these people are involved in,
he specifically said, trust your own instincts. He assured
us we had the equipment to detect the evil in the likes of
Hillary and Bill.

Mind you this audience looked like a high school PTA
meeting. Very suburban, very white, very middle class.

THEN, HE DROPPED THE BOMBSHELL ON ME SPECIFICALLY. Ickes
said, "you want to see evil, look into the eyes of FEMA
director ---."[sorry, I can't remember the name]. But I
don't have to remember the name. I saw that Clinton
appointee on television after some natural disaster, and was
stunned by my instinctive reaction to his image.

I said to myself and whomever was with me--"That man is
evil. I don't even think he is human, he is so evil...can't
you see it?" I couldn't look at the image...much the way I
mute the television and turn the channel if I hear or see
the clintons.

2] When Ickes spoke of the reptilian worship and symbolism,
by these groups, throughout history, I was struck again.
Last summer I took my daughter to Paris. We toured the Loire
Valley castles, specifically le Chateaux Chenonceau,
Chambord, and Villandry.

EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE, there were serpants, and
even more salamanders. Francis I was obsessed with
salamanders...they were etched into stone on mantles,
ceilings, and flooring. SALAMANDERS! At the time, I thought
it kooky, now I think it's spooky.

3] Icke talked of their obsession with ritual, symbolism and
astrological wheels, obilisks, and pentagrams. I thought of
my visit to congress, two years ago...At the Senate
Judiciary hearings, I looked up at the ceilings and wondered
why in the hell, in congress were there so many astrological
wheels and signs of the zodiac. On the floor of congress, on
the ceilings.

Icke's slide show included aerial photos of Washington,
Paris, and London, the street designs and relationships
between statues and buildings. It was creepy...again
astrological wheels, obilisks, pentagrams.

Then he names the architects and street designers...all free
masons. Scoff if you like.,..the man answered more than a
few of my questions and caused me to have many many
more***

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[CTRL] Orphans of War

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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From Boston Globe On-line


 BOOK REVIEW
 Absorbing look at CIA's role in Tibet

 By Michael Kenney, Globe Staff, 06/25/99



 Pictures a young CIA operations officer in 1958, John Kenneth Knaus was asked
 to lecture on Sino-Soviet relations to a group of men identified only as
 ''Asians'' at a covert site near Washington.

 But realizing that his audience was Tibetan ''trainee guerrillas,'' including a
 brother of the Dalai Lama, Knaus scrapped his ''standard semi-academic
 presentation'' in favor of what he hoped would be ''a useful exposition of how
 their fight was related to the free world's stand against communism.'' Useful or
 not, Knaus was invited to stay for a new year's celebration featuring Tibetan
 dumplings and ''lots of American beer.''

 Now retired from the CIA and an associate at Harvard's Fairbank Center for East
 Asian Research, Knaus recounts the story of the Tibetan resistance and the CIA's
 role, in an absorbing and valuable book, resisting the temptation to turn the
 story into a personal memoir.

 The CIA's involvement with the Tibetan resistance began in the early 1950s, just
 a few years after Mao Zedong's victory in China and the advance of his People's
 Liberation Army troops into Tibet. As the Korean War was winding down, Knaus
 writes, ''covert action against communism [had] attained an importance among the
 CIA's missions that would not be equalled until the Reagan administration.''
 Support for the Tibetan resistance ''was tailor-made for a covert action program
 designed to challenge communist consolidation.'' And Knaus is almost certainly
 right when he notes that ''if Americans had known about it, they certainly would
 have supported it.''

 The first air drop of arms and supplies to the Tibetan guerrillas was made in
 the early summer of 1958. By early 1959, Knaus writes, the Volunteer Freedom
 Fighters force controlled ''large pockets of central Tibet'' and had the Chinese
 forces ''definitely under siege.''

 There was now ''a full-scale commitment'' to support the Tibetan resistance and
 the CIA's training camp was moved from outside Washington to the more Tibet-like
 surroundings of a mountain pass near Aspen and Vail, Colo. Knaus was the
 political ''ghegen,'' teaching propaganda techniques, ''supplemented by
 practical instruction in the use of a portable mimeograph.''

 Quoting the officer then in charge of the CIA's China operations, Knaus writes
 that ''there was something so `special' about Tibet'' - including a romantic
 ''Shangri-La factor'' - that well into the early 1960s there was ''no opposition
 ... to whatever the CIA proposed in support of the resistance.''

 But already the tide was turning. In response to the early victories of the
 Tibetan guerrillas, China increased its forces in Tibet. Within a month after
 the Dalai Lama fled Lhasa in March 1959, CIA Director Allen Dulles was reporting
 that ''the resistance boys had been badly trapped.'' The revolt in Lhasa had
 been crushed, and there seemed to be ''nothing more'' that the CIA could do at
 that time.

 Still, there was initial support for the operation from the Kennedy
 administration, for whom a newly created Special Frontier Force ''embodied the
 boldness and innovation of the New Frontier and the new administration's desire
 to meet the challenges of the Cold War in new ways.'' But John Kenneth
 Galbraith, the newly appointed ambassador to India, took ''an instant dislike''
 to what he called ''a particularly insane enterprise'' involving ''dissident and
 deeply unhygienic tribesmen.''

 By 1968, the United States cut back on its support for the guerrillas, and in
 one of the many curious details of this story, the last military operation of
 the New Frontier's SFF was with the Indian Army during the Bangladesh War of
 1971.

 Citing officials involved in President Nixon's meetings with Chinese leaders in
 Beijing in February 1972, Knaus disputes the notion that Nixon agreed to drop
 support for the Tibetans. But even if ''Tibet had not been on the table in the
 Beijing talks,'' he writes, ''the era of official support for the Tibetan cause
 was over.''

 Knaus concludes that the ''basic flaw'' of the operation ''was not in the
 logistics but in the concept.'' The Tibetan guerrillas did not resemble the
 resistance fighters of Nazi-occupied Europe who ''benefitted from a greater
 military effort,'' nor did they operate from a ''secure territorial base'' as
 Mao's own forces had done before 1949.

 ''Orphans of the Cold War'' is an authoritative account of largely unknown
 events in a still-unresolved struggle. But it derives its intensity from the
 personal factor. Knaus recalls his relations with Gyalo Thondup, a brother of
 the Dalai Lama and the man ''most responsible for obtaining the CIA's support
 for the resistance.'' They shared a sense of ''the great danger and adverse
 odds'' faced by the guerrillas sent back into Tibet. ''They were the best and
 the bravest of 

[CTRL] Humor: More Great Stuff

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

If women ruled the world...

-Women with cold hands would give men prostate exams.

-PMS would be a legitimate defense in court.

-Men would get reputations for sleeping around.

-Singles bars would have metal detectors to weed out men
hiding wedding rings in their pockets.

-A man would no longer be considered a "good catch"
simply because he is breathing.

-Fewer women would be dieting because their ideal weight
standard would increase by 40 pounds.

-Shopping would be considered an aerobic activity.

-Men would not be allowed to eat gas-producing foods
within two hours of bedtime.

-Men would be secretaries for female bosses-working twice
as hard for none of the credit.

-Little girls would read "Snow White and the Seven Hunks."

-Men would bring drinks, chips and dip to women watching
soap operas.

-Men would HAVE to get Playboy "for the articles" because
there would be no pictures whatsoever.

-Men would learn phrases like "I'm sorry", "I love you",
"You're beautiful," and "Of course you don't look fat in that
outfit."

-Men would be judged entirely by their looks, women by
their accomplishments.

-Men would sit around and wonder what WE are thinking.

-Men would pay as much attention to their woman as they
do to their cars.

-All toilet seats would be nailed down.

-Men would work on relationships as much as they work on
their careers.

-TV news segments on sports would never run longer than 1
minute.

-All men would be forced to spend one month in a PMS
simulator.

-During mid-life crisis, men would get hot-flashes and
women would date 19 year olds.

-Overweight men would have their weight brought to their
 attention constantly.

-After a baby is born, men would take a six-week
paternity leave to wait on their wives hand and foot.

-For basic training, soldiers would have to take care of
a two-year-old for six weeks.

(That would take care of birth control!!!)

++

THE BENEFITS OF BEING FEMALE

We got off the Titanic first.

We can scare male bosses with mysterious gyneco-logical disorder
excuses.

We never ejaculate prematurely.

We get to flirt with systems support men who always return our calls,
and are nice to us when we blow up our computers.

When we buy a vibrator it is glamorous.  When men buy a blow up doll
it's pathetic.

Our boy friend's clothes make us look elfin and gorgeous - guys look
like complete idiots in ours.

We can be  groupies.  Male groupies are stalkers.

We can cry and get off speeding fines.

We've never lusted after a cartoon character or the central figure in
a computer game.

Taxis stop for us.

We don't look like a frog in a blender when dancing.

We can hug our friends without wondering if she thinks we're gay.

We can hug our friends without wondering if WE'RE gay.

We know The Truth about whether size matters.

New lipstick gives us a whole new lease on life.

If we have sex with someone and don't call them the next day, we're
not the devil.

Condoms make no significant difference in our enjoyment of sex.

If we're not making enough money we can blame the glass ceiling.

We can sleep our way to the top.

Nothing crucial can be cut off with one clean sweep.

It's possible to live our whole lives without ever taking a group
shower.

If we cheat on our spouse, people assume it's because we're being
emotionally neglected.

WE never have to wonder if his orgasm was real.

If we forget to shave, no one has to know.

We can congratulate our teammate without ever touching her ass.

If we have a zit, we know how to conceal it.

We never have to reach down every so often to make sure our privates
are still there.

If we're dumb, some people will find it cute.

We have the ability to dress ourselves.

We have an excuse to be a total bitch at least once a month.

We can talk to people of the opposite sex without having to picture
them naked.

Our friends won't think we're weird if we ask whether there's spinach
in our teeth.

There are times when chocolate really can solve all your problems.

Gay waiters don't make us uncomfortable.

We'll never regret piercing our ears.

We can fully assess a person just by looking at their shoes.

We'll never discover we've been duped by a Wonderbra.

++

Love, Lust  Marriage

LOVE - When your eyes meet across a crowded room.
LUST - When your tongues meet across a crowded room.
MARRIAGE - When you try to lose your spouse in a crowded room.

LOVE - When intercourse is called "making love."'
LUST - When intercourse is called "screwing."
MARRIAGE - When intercourse is a town in Pennsylvania.

LOVE - When you argue over how many children to have.
LUST - When you argue over who gets the wet spot.
MARRIAGE - When you argue over whose idea it was to
have kids.

LOVE - When you share everything you own.
LUST - When you steal everything they own.
MARRIAGE - When the bank owns everything.

LOVE - When it doesn't matter if you don't climax.
LUST - When the relationship is over if you don't climax.
MARRIAGE - 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1

1999-06-28 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990628a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No Theosophists were seriously injured during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# NYSE boss, Colombia rebel boss meet. BOGOTA (AP)  It was an unusual pitch
  by the head of the New York Stock Exchange, delivered in Colombia's steamy
  southern savannah to a senior commander of the hemisphere's oldest/largest
  leftist insurgency: Make peace and get great economic benefits from global
  investors. "We are very aggressive in trying to pursue international mark-
  ets and opportunities." The promise of capitalism for Marxist FARC terror-
  ists: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560092355-1b8

: Which terrorist insurgents would you like to invest in? Would you like to
own a piece of the emerging FARC state? Would cocaine profits be adequate?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'Flying saucer' grounded. (BBC) A Russian aviation project which tried to
  turn science fiction into science fact has been thwarted by lack of funds.
  Aviation engineers in the Russian city of Saratov developed a small proto-
  type craft 2 years ago. But the project is now broke and has been shelved.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_379000/379221.stm

: Would you like to invest in flying saucers? Do you want to supply flying
saucers to Marxist terrorists? Are flying saucers already smuggling drugs?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Los Alamos postpones biowarfare test. (AP) Scientists have postponed ind-
  efinitely a planned Monday open-air release of bacteria that would have
  been used to test biowarfare detectors intended for battlefield use. The
  planned tests at Los Alamos Nat'l Laboratory have raised questions about
  the lab's openness with the public as scientists expand their research
  into identifying and defending against biowarfare agents. Accidents?
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560083536-964

: What types of biowar tests would you like in your neighborhood? Would you
prefer local biowar test be run by gov't, business, terrorists, aliens? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ ROD SUSKIN. iafrica.com is proud to welcome on board one of South Africa's
  top Astrologers - Rod Suskin. Rod's alternative lifestyle page offers
  books, links, a weekly horoscope by Rod and - starting early July - a
  daily horoscope! http://rodsuskin.iafrica.com/?src_id=tmp0326

: What nation has the top astrologers? Is "foremost astrologer" an oxymoron?
Is astrology a mind-control device, like religion, videogames and the Net?
Does "alternative lifestyle" translate to "show me the money, suckers" ???
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'Scream' evidence barred from trial. (AP)  The boys were obsessed with the
  horror movie "Scream." They talked about it many times to each other and
  with friends. Then they moved to replicate those in the 1996 Wes Craven
  film. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560091104-244

: Do violent media presentations make you want to kill? Do war movies incite
wars? Is your mind-control program working successfully? Is the judge trying
to suppress disclosures of media mind-control programs? What's his payoff??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ How High Is High? Venetian women of the 15th Century wore platform shoes
  as a status symbol - and some shoes were almost a meter high! Pictorial
  history of a staggering trend: http://fashion.iafrica.com?src_id=tmp0326

: Are disabling fashions forms of social control? Are aliens behind platform
shoes, foot-binding, wasp-waisted corsets, body piercings, sheathe dresses?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# French revive Paris Mean Time. (BBC) As part of their millennium cele-
  brations, the French are once more laying claim to the Prime Meridian.
  "The French are revolting again. This time it is over the location of
  the line of longitude from which all time zones are referenced." Whew:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_38/380035.stm

@ Links: Greenwich - the home of time: http://www.greenwich2000.com/
@ Universal Time - promoting metric time: http://www.universal-time.org/
@ Atomic Web Clock: http://www.bldrdoc.gov/timefreq/javaclck.htm
@ Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM): http://www.bipm.fr/enus/

: How many time systems does Earth need? Which is your favorite? Do you have
your own time system? Does anyone else use it? Did you steal it from aliens?
Are you as revolting as the French, Reptilioids, UFOlogists, me? Or worse??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Muscular robots planned for Mars. (BBC) Scientists are developing a robot,
  which will walk on legs using artificial muscles, to explore Mars. A pro-
  totype of the machine - called a Birod (Biomorphic Robot with Distributed
  power) - has been built at the University of Arizona. Hunky little monkey:
  

[CTRL] [7] The Ohio Gang

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from:
The Ohio Gang
Charles L. Mee, Jr.©1981
M. Evans and Company, Inc.
216 East 49th Street
New York, New York 10017
ISBN 0-87131-340-5
218 pps — out-of-print/one edition
--[7]--

XIX.

The Hardings in the White House

"NO RUMOR COULD have exceeded the reality," Alice Roosevelt Longworth said,
having tagged along with Congressman Longworth to a poker game in the White
House. "The study was filled with cronies, Daugherty, Jess Smith ... and
others, the air heavy with tobacco smoke, trays with bottles containing every
imaginable brand of whisky stood about, cards and poker chips ready at handa
general atmosphere of waistcoat unbuttoned, feet on the desk, and spittoons
alongside."

Harding thought he would like wienerwurst and sauerkraut for dinner, but Mrs.
Harding thought they were unsuitable for the White House. Harding wanted
toothpicks on the table, but Mrs. Harding thought they were vulgar. Harding
wanted to chew tobacco, but Mrs. Harding would not allow it. "She says,"
Harding told a visitor, as he surreptitiously tucked a cut into his cheek,
"cigars are all right, but it's undignified to chew."

Mrs. Harding was extremely nervous. Each time she and Evalyn Walsh McLean had
been together at a reception with a group of the smart set, Mrs. Harding
would ask Evalyn afterward, "What did they say about me?"

When William Allen White, the editor of the Emporia, Kansas, Gazette called
at the White House, he found Mrs. Harding "well-groomed, neatly dressed and
highly marcelled when in public. She had a determined mouth, but her eyes
lacked decision. They reflected ambition, but they had a clouded, puzzled
look, rather than the clear brightness which is associated with an active and
logical mentality."

Samuel Hopkins Adams, one of the other journalists who kept a particularly
close watch on the White House, thought Mrs. Harding "overdid it; she tried
too hard to be a great lady. Uncertain of herself, she took refuge in
volubility and effusiveness. . . . She was prone to be overrouged and
overcoiffured, often overdressed."

As for Harding himself, when he first took office, he did not quite fit in at
the White House. Several people noticed that his trousers were too long. In
time, however, Mrs. Harding got him spruced up, so that one day when William
Allen White came to call he noticed that the president was dressed "with
exact sartorial propriety, with exactly the kind of boutonniere he should
wear, with precisely the gray stripe in his trousers that the hour required,
with a proper dark four-in-hand tied most carefully. For a moment or two,
while he was offering cigars and moving festively out of the preliminaries of
a formal conversation, he was socially and spiritually erect. But as we sat
in the south sunshine flooding through the windows of his office, he warmed
and melted and slouched a little."

He played golf at least twice a week, and he was overjoyed whenever he
managed to shoot in the nineties. Colonel Starling of the Secret Service
followed Harding around the course and kept track of his score and of the
side bets he kept making with those who played with him. "He played,"
Starling said, "as if his life depended on every shot, and he made so many
bets that sometimes he was betting against himself."

He played most often at the Chevy Chase Club, and he loved to bet with his
partner six dollars Nassau against their opponents: a bet of six dollars out,
six dollars in, and six dollars across. He would lay a side bet with his
partner on low score, and then, as the game moved along, he would double up
his bets, betting on individual holes, and then on individual shots as they
went down the fairway. "I had to keep accounts," said Starling, "and it was a
job for a Philadelphia lawyer."

At the end of the round, the players would repair to a house set aside for
the president at Chevy Chase. Starling would get out the key to the liquor
cabinet and bring out the scotch and Bourbon, and a black man named Taylor
would serve highballs while Starling made his calculations and announced the
winners. Harding would take a single drink, and then, when the bets were
settled, he would turn to Starling and say, "Telephone the Duchess and say I
am on my way home."

Twice a week, he would convene the poker sessions at the White House. Ohio
friends, cabinet members, senators, visiting businessmen, and political
acquaintances would gather after dinner. Never more than eight would sit at
the table at one time, though the cast of characters would shift sometimes in
the course of the evening. Mrs. Harding hovered, not playing, but fetching
drinksnervous, some thought, about letting Warren out of her sight. Daugherty
called her "Ma"; Ned McLean called her "Boss"; and some of the other regulars
picked up Harding's habit of calling her "Duchess."

"We played at a rectangular table in the north end of the room," said one of
the regulars about the sessions in the White House library. At one session,

[CTRL] [7] Other Altars

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Other Altars - Roots and Realities of Cultic and Satanic Ritual Abuse and
Multiple Personality Disorder
Craig Lockwood©1993
CompCare Publishers
3850 Annapolis Lane, Suite 100
Minneapolis, MN 55441
612.559.4800/800.328.3330
ISBN 0-89638-363-6
255+pps — out-of-print/one edition.
--[7]--

Part II

Within The Circle

"When the acts and magical beliefs of present-day folkloric groups are
subjected to a systematic-sychronic interpretation ... the prehistoric
antiquity of a great Part of what is concealed in the elements that have come
down to us appears convincingly attested to. We then realize ... that
folkloric testimonies have their roots in a much more remote time and are
much more widely diffused than we thought."
-Roman Jakobson, 1966

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Chapter 7

Shamans, Magic, And  The Mind

"[Shamans] are of immense social significance, the psychological health of
the group largely depending on faith in their powers ... the various psychic
powers attributed to them must not be too readily dismissed as mere primitive
magic and 'make believe,' for many of them have specialized in the working of
the human mind, and in the influence of mind on body and body on mind."
-A.P. Elkin, 1945

Among those societies that use magical language and wield  magical power, the
shaman is an important fixture. Ethnopsychologist Holger Kalweit, a German
who has made a lifetime study of the cross-cultural psychological aspects of
shamanism, notes in his book Dreamtime and Inner Space: The World of the
Shaman, "Everywhere and at all times, cultures have striven to produce and
train people of parapsychic ability so that they might effectively support
the struggle for the survival of the tribe or community in question."

Cultures and societies vary in their attitudes. Eighteenth, century
Polynesians conferred respectful titles indicating degrees of spiritual
authority on hunas, who possessed this specialized occult knowledge. In
sixteenth-century France, anyone suspected of holding superstitious folk
beliefs could be made a public barbecue.

Contemporary Korean shamans, the Mu dang, are "organized in a professional
association," but are considered to be on the "lowest rung of the social
ladder, along with prostitutes, shoe-menders, soothsayers, Buddhist monks,
and dancing girls," according to Kalweit.

What's the difference between a shaman, a witch, and a sorcerer?
Anthropologists, scholars, and other experts on and practitioners of the
occult, esoteric religions, and witchcraft don't always agree. Sometimes
those terms are used as stand-ins for more specific words.

English nouns such as adept, alchemist, augurer, conjurer, diabolist,
diviner, enchanter, initiate, magician, magus, necromancer, priest,
priestess, thaumaturge, shaman, sorcerer, warlock, witch, and wizard are
applied to, and used by, practitioners of magic and those who write about
many different kinds of magic.

Any of the above practitioners may adhere to one or more forms or schools of
occult, esoteric, religious, and ritual or ceremonial magic. Some are benign,
others maleficent.

Terms such as shaman, medicine man, medicine woman, and witch doctor have
been used to describe persons who practicein whatever way-medical healing or
curative magic. These labels, however, are not definitive. In the popular
media they are used somewhat interchangeably, and often inaccurately.

Many of these titles are honorific in their native languages. They generally
denote respect, but in some cases also carry a connotation of fear. Others,
such as the Middle English terms warlock and wizard, are used more by
Hollywood than everyday practitioners of the occult.

Terms like witch doctor come complete with negative Western cultural
associations. Most contemporary Europeans or Americans wouldn't consider
taking a medical problem to an old person in a dusty hut who diagnoses while
in a trance state. Most Africans, including many with Western educations,
however, would consult this respected old person first.

Translating specific, non-English magical appellatives into English is
challenging. English, especially American English, no longer provides as many
linguistic distinctions.

According to Ruth-Inge Heinz in Shamans of the Twentieth Century, when the
Tungus of Siberia translate their word saman it means:

"Social-functionary-who-with-the-help-of-guardian-spirits-attains -ecstasy-
in-order-to-create-a-rapport-with-thesupernatural-world-on-behalf-of-his-group
-
members."

 Translated into English as witch doctor, which Westerners equate with a
Tarzan movie-image, the meaning gets lost. Yet there are cultures in which a
witch doctor serves the specific function of curing people from curses placed
upon them by sorcerers or evil witches.

On occasion the cultural overlay of a conqueror-language such as English
gives us a term that is once or, in some cases, twice removed from the
original non-English term. And the native term itself can have many subtle,
or 

[CTRL] Secret Zodiacs of Washington DC: Was the City of Stars Planned by Masons?

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2

1999-06-28 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990628b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No Vegetarians were seriously overfed during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Return to Tunguska. (BBC) Scientists are about to return to the site of
  the 20th Century's most devastating cosmic impact. Harbinger of future:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_38/380060.stm

@ Links: Tunguska expedition: http://www-th.bo.infn.it/tunguska/
@ Asteroid and Comet impact hazards: http://impact.arc.nasa.gov/

# Meteorite is possible ice age culprit
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_233000/233199.stm
# Don't try this at home!
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_93000/93678.stm
# Space dust 'did for dinosaurs'
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_89000/89397.stm

: What's your favorite meteorite impact? D'ya wanna devastate a biosphere?
What planet would you most like to slam? Would you do it for money or fun?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ CONCEIVING A CLONE: http://library.advanced.org/24355/home.html

@ The Details: Here is all the information you'll ever need on cloning and
  biotechnology. Follow the development of cloning on the timeline, learn of
  the various techniques used to create clones, view animations of important
  processes, and read about scientists whose accomplishments have made clon-
  ing a reality. http://library.advanced.org/24355/data/detailsnav.html

@ Reactions: The recent cloning developments fostered a large scale debate
  on the morality  ethics of duplicating humans and other creatures. Here
  you can learn about common cloning misconceptions, views from both sides
  of the cloning debate, and what the government is doing to prevent human
  cloning research. http://library.advanced.org/24355/data/reactionsnav.html

@ Interactions: After learning about cloning and related biotechnology, step
  into our cloning discussions  let your views be known. Or enter our sci-
  ence lab and perform your own cloning experiment on the web. If you feel
  you are a cloning expert, test your knowledge by taking our cloning
  questionnaire. http://library.advanced.org/24355/data/interactionsnav.html

: Have you cloned anything/anyone lately? Are you a clone? Have you had sex
with your own or anyone else's clone(s)? Is clone sex a growth industry???
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

CloneLinks:

# UK gov't human cloning ban condemned:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_377000/377425.stm
# UK keeps human cloning ban:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_377000/377031.stm
@ Human cloning: The debate:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_377000/377420.stm
@ QA: What is cloning?
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_377000/377180.stm

# Cloning may lead to 'medical revolution':
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_376000/376810.stm
# Cloning - where will it end?
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_377000/377046.stm
# UK Government response to human cloning:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_377000/377154.stm

# First cloned human embryo revealed:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_371000/371378.stm
# Pig clone for the millennium:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_343000/343230.stm
# Dolly goes to market:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_335000/335870.stm

@ Society, Religion and Technology Project - Church of Scotland:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_335000/335870.stm
@ Human Genetics Advisory Commission: http://www.dti.gov.uk/hgac/
@ The Council for Responsible Genetics: http://www.dti.gov.uk/hgac/
@ Clone Zone: http://newscientist.com/nsplus/insight/clone/clone.html
@ Geron Corporation: http://www.geron.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Mice help women stay fertile. (BBC) Researchers in Canada have developed a
  technique which may enable women to have children at any age they choose.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_379000/379884.stm

@ Links: Female Reproductive System: http://aafp.org/patientinfo/body.html
@ Royal College of Obstetricians  Gynaecologists: http://www.rcog.org.uk/
@ CHILD - The National Infertility Support Network: http://www.child.org.uk/
@ Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority: http://www.hfea.gov.uk/org/
@ Fertility and Sterility:  http://www-east.elsevier.com/fert/

: How much fertility is enough? How many humans are to many? Where will we
put all the extras? Will rising populations be harvested by aliens? Edible?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# SEN. HATCH SAYS HE'S RUNNING IN 2000 - U.S. to become Mormon theocracy:
  http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/27/hatch/
* FBI, CIA and other gov't agents document widespread gov't corruption:
  http://www.defraudingamerica.com/
* Gov't 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #3

1999-06-28 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990628c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No prohibitionists were liquored-up during production of this bulletin.
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# The trillion dollar surplus. (BBC) The US Gov't says it is heading for a
  budget surplus $1,000bn bigger than expected in the next decade- and plans
  to pay off the entire national debt. Bondholders shocked at the prospect:
  news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/the_economy/newsid_38/380217.stm
  Or see: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990628/10/news-economy-budget

# US budget surplus beckons:
  news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/the_economy/newsid_269000/269729.stm
  Or see: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990628/12/news-clinton-surplus

@ Links: White House: http://www.whitehouse.gov/
@ Congressional Budget Office: http://www.cbo.gov/

: Does paying off the US nat'l debt advance or hinder the Bilderberger plot?
What would you do with the money? Will taxes be ended? Will death go next??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Abandoned Bag Of Skulls Mystifies Indian Police. PATNA, India (Reuters) -
  88 human skulls were found in a bag abandoned at a railway station ticket
  office in eastern India. "There are both children's' and adult skulls."
  The abandoned blue air bag was spotted by railway staff and handed over to
  railway police who opened it to discover the neatly cut bowl-like skulls.
  Cops are mystified by the abandoned bag of skulls but are examining every
  possibility from murder to ritual abuse to illegal skull smuggling despite
  a federal ban. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990628/11/odd-india-skulls

: Would you like a bag of skulls? Would you lose the bag? How would you use
88 skulls? Are they decorative, utilitarian, ritually significant, untidy?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Online Ouija. Ask a question aloud, then find the answer by using your
  mouse as an electronic planchet. Ask everybody to place one hand on the
  mouse and let it move to "its own position". Click on the button once the
  mouse has stopped.  Before clicking the button make sure that the cursor
  rests within the board. http://www.math.unh.edu/~black/cgi-bin/spirit.cgi

: What's your favorite fortune-telling technique? Does it work? Do you use
it to take money from people? Are you entertaining, accurate, greedy, wry?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Heavy Security Surrounds Panchen Lama In Tibet. SHIGATSE, Tibet, China.
  A 9-year-old boy picked by Beijing as Tibet's 2nd holiest figure is under
  heavy police protection because of fears for his safety on his 1st return
  to the Himalayan region. The Panchen Lama was escorted in a 21-vehicle cop
  motorcade to a sacred Buddhist ritual in his own monastery in Shigatse,
  Tibet's second city. Chinese authorities are using the visit to try to
  boost the legitimacy of the 11th Panchen Lama against a rival named by
  the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled god king and Buddhist spiritual leader.
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990628/07/international-china-tibet

: What religious leader or pretender would you most like to assassinate? Do
you recognize religious leaders appointed by govt's? Do you recognize gov't
leaders appointed by religions? Will there be a TV movie of the Pachen Lama?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# SEA LIFE THREATENED BY NOISE POLLUTION - '...an acoustics traffic jam':
  http://cnn.com/NATURE/9906/28/sea.noise.ap/index.html
# Also: Century's growth leaves earth noisy, see
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560079737-257
@ The Internet's Largest Waste of Space - Currently, it's 40,000,000 pixels
  by 40,000,000 pixels: http://www.geocities.com/~sampieri/waste.htm
@ Virtual Dog. That's right! A Virtual Dog of your own! Feed him! Pet him!
  Clean up after him! Chat about him! http://www.virtualdog.com/

# FBI wants spy-hunting division - CIA objects to competition:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560081900-c4d
# Study: FBI poor on convictions rate - worst of any federal agency:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560083629-176
# Oswald files may have nothing new - coverup still ironclad:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560095039-290
# Starr must turn over Tripp tapes - wiretap prosecution proceeds:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560081555-d5d

# TIANANMEN SQUARE REOPENS WITH TANK-PROOF PAVING AND KITE-FLYING BAN:
  http://cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9906/28/china.tiananmen.01/index.html
# China might offer Milosevic asylum - Beijing collects dictators:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560081567-7c2
# Orthodox church attacks Milosevic - biting the hand that fed it:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_38/380143.stm

# Cambodia tells farmers: No more pot. Drugs industries booming:
  

[CTRL] Exceptional France

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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From NewStatesman

 The French exception is on a roll

 Lionel Jospin has snubbed the Third Way - with excellent results, writes David
 Lawday

 PictureHe really is a stubborn fellow, Lionel Jospin. The French prime
 minister receives some wonderful tips from Tony Blair on how to run France and
 refuses to follow them. After all, Blair gets things right, doesn't he? True,
 Europe rather eludes him. But elsewhere the British PM has shored up the west's
 moral high ground. Right on Kosovo. Right on economic liberalism. Right on
 refusing to see politics in terms of right and left (being modern's the thing).
 Right on recruiting big fellows such as Bill Clinton and Gerhard Schroder as
 co-religionists. Sensible countries ought to have no hesitation about marching
 with Blairism.

 Not all countries, though, are sensible. The mad thing about France is that not
 only does it balk at Blairism, it is doing rather well out of the heresy. Under
 Jospin, who locates himself squarely on the left - the old left, he might rib
 Blair - the "French exception" appears to be on a roll. Dire warnings from
 liberal capitalist visionaries in America and Britain that France has got it all
 hopelessly wrong remain, well, dire warnings. Jospin stands his ground. "The
 Third Way? The new centre? No thank you. I prefer to follow our own path." The
 French left does not imitate, it has its own original face. Yes to the market
 economy, Jospin incants, but no to the market society.

 You would think Jospin finds virtue in being wrong. Any duffer knows France is
 overtaxed, inflexible and handcuffed by regulation. Unpardonably centralised,
 too. The state just won't step back. Actually it can't step back. At its head,
 strong as ever, is a masterful political-administrative elite schooled precisely
 to maintain the state's grasp.

 When Blair and Schroder argue, as they do in their recent Third Way/Neue Mitte
 manifesto, that high public spending and state meddling in the market are the
 road to ruin, who else but France can they be waving their warning finger at?
 Deluded Jospin, with what he calls his government of the plural left -
 socialists, communists, greens - thinks being modern is to marry expensive
 welfare with a free-ish market and somehow, under the state's organising genius,
 make it work. Poor chap.

 Yet France is working. Frankly, it's almost an insult to Blairism. Economic
 growth of 3.2 per cent was racily higher than either Britain's or Germany's last
 year and looks set to continue. The highly taxed French are spending. Inflation
 is so low you can't see it. The budget deficit stays sagely within the tight
 bounds set by membership of the euro. The country continues to run up trade
 surpluses that Gordon Brown can only envy. If they could admit it, the French
 may be better salesmen than lovers. Jospin's France even permits itself
 extraordinary experiments such as the 35-hour working week. Put down as a
 reckless national skive by Third Way fans, the reform promises some practical,
 albeit unplanned, economic advantages: while missing its stated aim of reducing
 unemployment, it is ushering in a new age of labour flexibility.

 This is all very confusing. The Germans proverbially define total happiness as
 "to live like God in France". No doubt Blair as well as Schroder suspects God
 may have a hand in France's performance. Beyond providing the best wine and
 cheese money can buy, however, the French have talents they advertise less. They
 are unusually efficient. Of workers in all the large European countries, the
 French are the most productive. Per capita income is well ahead of Britain's.
 France has rapidly stripped itself of old industry. The price of such efficiency
 is high unemployment (still 11 per cent plus), which is indeed a drawback but
 one that the French seem to accept as a hard fact of life.

 Also, France gets things done. When it wants new high-speed rail lines or a
 national super-stadium in Paris to stage the World Cup, it doesn't wait around
 to find the money or search endlessly for participation by private capital, it
 builds them with a nod from parliament - then leaves it to its ingenious
 mandarins to organise the financing (hence high taxes).

 I sense there is another strong reason for France's resilience. The Europe that
 so flummoxes Britain has kicked in to assist France. As both Blair's new Labour
 and Schroder's Social Democrats were nosediving in the European elections, the
 errant French prime minister's Socialist Party fared very nicely. Having settled
 well and truly into Europe, France draws new self-confidence from the union. The
 French are reaping important psychological benefits from Europe, and this
 assurance lifts economic performance - which, incidentally, is just what the
 founders of the euro expect the common currency to do. A French majority, small
 but extraordinary when you consider how "exceptional" the French love to be,
 favours a bona 

[CTRL] Under the Dust

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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From NewStatesman


 The lust for blood. What triggers landmark events in history is
 often fictions that people believe, not events that actually took
 place

 -
 --- Gentile Tales: The Narrative Assault on Late-Medieval
 Jews Miri Rubin Yale University Press, 266pp, £25 Picture: Buy
 this book now!
 -
 --- Lisa Jardine


 PictureIn her important book Fiction in the Archives, the
 American historian Natalie Zemon Davis showed how, in
 16th-century France, the stories of extenuating circumstances
 related by hapless individuals under sentence of death appealing
 to the king for a royal pardon were concocted around stereotyped
 incidents. To escape a murder charge the plaintiff had to produce
 an emotionally compelling scenario constructed out of familiar
 components: a quarrel in the family kitchen, a knife grabbed in
 "hot anger", an accidental blow struck in the course of a
 domestic task. Such stories were designed to tug at the
 listener's emotions and convince them of the individual's
 innocence. Davis's analysis challenged the traditional assumption
 that the reputable historian dealt in hard evidence and objective
 fact. What, she asked, was the historical status of the archival
 stories she had uncovered?

 Now Miri Rubin gives us the other, more sinister side of this
 coin. If some conventional tales can help you escape a murder
 rap, others can rouse your neighbours to violent action against
 you. Never mind that there is no evidence, that the accusation
 reeks of superstitious impossibility. What triggers landmark
 events in history, Rubin explains, is often fictions that people
 believe, rather than incidents that actually took place. And once
 a tale is judged believable, what follows is certainly real
 enough: local minorities are persecuted, driven from their homes,
 tortured and killed, as happened so brutally in Kosovo.

 At the end of the 13th century, for example, a vividly realistic
 story began to circulate in Europe. From location to location its
 details varied, but from telling to telling the shape of the
 story remained essentially the same. In a local community a
 dishonest Christian stole consecrated communion wafers from the
 church and sold them to a Jew to whom he owed money. The Jew
 proceeded to "test" the host - attacking it with knives, burning
 it, burying it in the dirt. The wafer, however, proved
 indestructible; the only sign of the assault was that where it
 had been pierced and abused, drops of blood appeared. Meanwhile
 the Christian realised the error of his ways, repented and
 confessed what had happened to the local priest. Outraged by the
 act of desecration, he and the locals hauled the Jew before the
 authorities to be tortured till he confessed his crime and
 eventually mutilated and put to death as a heretic.

 In some versions of the story it is a sinful woman who purloins
 the blessed wafer; sometimes it is a converted Jew, betraying the
 faith that has welcomed him in. Sometimes the stolen wafer
 miraculously produces a vision of Christ himself, prompting the
 conversion of those participating in the outrage; in some
 versions it is a conspiracy of Jews which solicits the theft, and
 the outcome of the incident is a lynch-mob massacre of thousands.
 The point is, as Rubin explains in Gentile Tales, that it is the
 very familiarity of the components, the cliched nature of the
 tale, that gives it its currency. People believe that these
 things have happened in their village, under their own noses,
 because they have heard such stories before: they know they have
 already "really" happened somewhere else. Like the
 sensationalised stories in a Sunday newspaper, the banally
 predictable nature of the narrative and its outcome make it more,
 not less, plausible.

 By 1500, stories told in northern Europe against Jews of their
 purloining and torturing the host had evolved and developed their
 own kind of ghastly narrative elegance. Like some kind of black
 mass, the desecration and mutilation of the holy wafers mimicked
 and inverted the most elaborate of contemporary eucharistic
 beliefs. It is unlikely that the Jewish community was even
 conversant with such subtleties, let alone inclined to mock and
 parody them. Moreover, on the eve of the Reformation, Christians
 themselves were abandoning the most baroque of the rituals
 surrounding the communion bread and wine. Still, whole
 communities could be goaded into an anti-Semitic frenzy on the
 strength of a single such tall tale, so powerful is the hold of
 the familiar.

 One of the many strengths of this rigorously argued book is the
 care with which Rubin excavates the compelling reasons why the
 desecration of the host stories were believed, while avoiding
 dignifying them with truth status herself. Thus she points out
 that such stories were most 

Re: [CTRL] Inside Bohemian Grove

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

According to C(K)athy O'Brien, co-author of "Tranceformation of America,"

the yearly party at Bohemian Grove is an evil affair: human

sacrifice, sexual orgies, and the obligatory oaths and homage to Lucifer,

"the Lightgiver."

Christian researcher Constance Cumbey has also made similar charges.

Of course, some researchers do tend to see a demon under every bush, but

there is something sinister in the fact that no outsiders are allowed in

to observe "the festivities."

The Russian River area is a beautiful spot.  When I went to Sonoma State,

we used to picnic in the area..but if I'm not mistaken, the area is

considered to be a "power spot."


On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Ric Carter wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 - Original Message -
 From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  could it be that the secret government in order to allay the fears
  of the masses simply 'allowed' a reporter into Bohemian Grove to
  witness a staged  event that conveyed the impression of total
  innocence and sporty fun eg. 'mock druidic ritual' - etc

 I live a few miles upriver from Boho Grove and every year I see the
 helis flying overhead bearing the participants, hear the stories of
 the hookers imported for the festivities, catch a sniff of what's
 going on there.  There's enough documentation, there've been enough
 penetrations of events, to convince me, a die-hard skeptic, of the
 dead-serious nature of the Boho conclaves.  This really IS a club
 of The White Guys That Run Things, and they really DO play around
 with rituals  sex  power.  If you don't believe me, come on up to
 the Russian River with a UHF scanner and listen in to the traffic.

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[CTRL] DRUGGING AMERICA

1999-06-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.druggingamerica.com/
A HREF="http://www.druggingamerica.com/"Government insiders and former drug
traffickers
/A
-
DRUGGING AMERICA

A Trojan Horse

Rodney Stich

Book Available July 31, 1999


***

Several dozen present and former government agents and operatives, and
former drug traffickers, provide the author, Rodney Stich--also a former
federal investigator--with thousands of hours of secret insider
information, thousands of documents, and other data, revealing the sham
war-on-drugs inflicted upon the American people by officials in the
three branches of the federal government.

This site and this book--and the author's other books--can do many
things for many people, including, for instance:
•Obtain an understanding, from many government and other insiders, of
endemic corruption in government that threatens people and businesses in
all walks of life.
•Provide the information necessary to avoid the tragic financial and
personal consequences when targeted by any of the thousands of
government agents, informants and prosecutors, most of who are looking
for victims, innocence being of no consequence.
•Help to FORCE the revocation of draconian mandatory minimum sentencing
laws, forfeiture laws, and conspiracy statutes, that put many innocent
people in prison, that puts many people in prison far longer than the
offense justifies, and the seizure of assets from innocent people or
seizures of property far in excess of the alleged offenses.
•Help to reduce the possibility of you or a loved one being one of the
many thousands of yearly victims of the draconian prison sentences,
forfeiture statutes, and conspiracy statutes, that have already
destroyed tens of thousands of lives and families.
•Help to bring about the release of many who are in prison, especially
on drug-related charges.
•General description of contents in Drugging America--A Trojan Horse.
•Value of Drugging America book to its readers.
•Partial list of deep-cover agents and operatives, former drug
traffickers, and other insiders, who provided highly sensitive insider
information for Drugging America.
•Rodney Stich's background qualifications.
•Table of contents from Drugging America--A Trojan Horse.
•Intent of this site and the books.
•Crimes of coverups: America's leaders! •America's political prisoners
Federal agents, deep-cover operatives, and concerned American citizens,
who have been sent to prison on fabricated charges to prevent them from
reporting to the American people the corruption within the CIA, DEA,
Justice Department, and other federal offices. These are political
prisoners, and many of them are the true American heroes who fought to
bring to justice high-level criminal activities, and who were
fraudulently charged and sent to prison. •Sample of men, women, and
families that Department of Justice employees fraudulently charged, who
were then convicted and sentenced to prison. •Partial listing of judges
 involved in obstructing justice, as detailed and documented in one or
all of the following: Drugging America, Defrauding America and
Unfriendly Skies. •Sample of book reviews on Stich's books. •Sample of
 comments by readers of Stich's books.
•Other books by Rodney Stich.
•Links to other sites.
•Order form.
•Insider information wanted on corrupt government personnel and
operations. •Whistleblower pages of insiders revealing high-level
government misconduct.




Drugging America reveals, for instance:

•Describes the tactics used by the army of government agents, government
informants, and Justice Department prosecutors who prey upon and
fabricate crimes against the men and women of the United States.
•Sample list of men, women, and families, destroyed by these scams,
sometimes leading to suicide.
•One of America's great growth industries: incarcerating tens of
thousands of men and women, many of whom are either innocent of any
crime, or of greatly exaggerated offenses.
•The tactics used by the thousands of government agents and government
informants to trap, charge, and imprison thousands of men and women
every year, victims who are often totally innocent, or innocent of
offenses far less than charged. And how you can reduce the chance of
becoming one of the thousands of victims being imprisoned in America's
great growth industry.
•Why your innocence means nothing to government personnel who will lie
and perjure themselves as they seek to imprison their prey. Tomorrow,
this could be you, just as thousands of other men and women thought it
could not happen to them, as they started a long prison sentence or even
life in prison--although they did nothing to justify the sentence.
•Learn how your "friendly" members of Congress voted for draconian
prison sentences to make themselves look good to a naive public and
thereby win votes at the expense of thousands of destroyed lives.
•Fifty years of CIA drug trafficking into the 

Re: [CTRL] David Icke....The Greatest Secret.....AND FreeMasons

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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It's not a secret.

Most Masonic 'truths' are always placed under the noses of uninitiated

As my deceased grandfather (33rd degree Freemason) used to say, non-Masons
will never be able to figure out the real meaning of Masonic symbolism.
Not even members of the lower grades are privy to what the craft is all
about.
Yet, everywhere, you can see the power and glory of the brethren.

Our country was, is, and will always be a masonic stronghold.

It's not a coincidence that Masons are still invited to lay the
cornerstones of most major government building projects.  (Take a look at
the spooky New World Airport at Denver.)

Freemasonry has not only played a role in shaping our political
institutions...it's crept into our language as well: "on the level,"
"square," etc.

For an interesting look at masonic doings, read William Still.  Although
he has been faulted for an over-reliance on the work of Eustace Mullins
(alleged anti-semite).

Better yet, read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.


On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Daniel Holly wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.reptoids.com/_discarticles/00ad.htm



 ***The creepy part about these gatherings is when new
 pieces of information fit PERFECTLY with that which we
 already know.

 I went to the lecture on a lark. I love new information and
 unusual experiences. Mr. Icke is definitely
 entertaining...the crowd was there from 1 pm to 10:30 that
 night...with only a few breaks. And even then, most were
 eating sandwiches while swamping Icke for more individual
 answers.

 Three things struck me specifically.

 1.] When he spoke of the evil these people are involved in,
 he specifically said, trust your own instincts. He assured
 us we had the equipment to detect the evil in the likes of
 Hillary and Bill.

 Mind you this audience looked like a high school PTA
 meeting. Very suburban, very white, very middle class.

 THEN, HE DROPPED THE BOMBSHELL ON ME SPECIFICALLY. Ickes
 said, "you want to see evil, look into the eyes of FEMA
 director ---."[sorry, I can't remember the name]. But I
 don't have to remember the name. I saw that Clinton
 appointee on television after some natural disaster, and was
 stunned by my instinctive reaction to his image.

 I said to myself and whomever was with me--"That man is
 evil. I don't even think he is human, he is so evil...can't
 you see it?" I couldn't look at the image...much the way I
 mute the television and turn the channel if I hear or see
 the clintons.

 2] When Ickes spoke of the reptilian worship and symbolism,
 by these groups, throughout history, I was struck again.
 Last summer I took my daughter to Paris. We toured the Loire
 Valley castles, specifically le Chateaux Chenonceau,
 Chambord, and Villandry.

 EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE, there were serpants, and
 even more salamanders. Francis I was obsessed with
 salamanders...they were etched into stone on mantles,
 ceilings, and flooring. SALAMANDERS! At the time, I thought
 it kooky, now I think it's spooky.

 3] Icke talked of their obsession with ritual, symbolism and
 astrological wheels, obilisks, and pentagrams. I thought of
 my visit to congress, two years ago...At the Senate
 Judiciary hearings, I looked up at the ceilings and wondered
 why in the hell, in congress were there so many astrological
 wheels and signs of the zodiac. On the floor of congress, on
 the ceilings.

 Icke's slide show included aerial photos of Washington,
 Paris, and London, the street designs and relationships
 between statues and buildings. It was creepy...again
 astrological wheels, obilisks, pentagrams.

 Then he names the architects and street designers...all free
 masons. Scoff if you like.,..the man answered more than a
 few of my questions and caused me to have many many
 more***

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[CTRL] Humor: Flight Attendant Annoucements

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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SIGHTINGS



Flight Attendant
Announcements You
Probably Won't Hear
From Brad Millard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5-7-99

Airline Chat - Occasionally, airline attendants make an effort to make the
"in-flight safety lecture" and their other announcements a bit more
entertaining. Here are some real examples that have been heard and
reported:


* "There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there are only 4 ways out
of this airplane..."

* After landing: "Thank you for flying Delta Business Express. We hope you
enjoyed giving us the business as much as we enjoyed taking you for a
ride."

* As the plane landed and was coming to a stop at Washington National, a
voice came over the loudspeaker: "Whoa, big fella. WHOA!"

* After a particularly rough landing during thunderstorms in Memphis, a
flight attendant on a Northwest flight announced: "Please take care when
opening the overhead compartments because, after a landing like that, sure
as hell everything has shifted."

* From a Southwest Airlines employee "Welcome aboard Southwest Flight
XXX to YYY. To operate your seatbelt, insert the metal tab into the buckle,
and pull tight. It works just like every other seatbelt, and if you don't
know how to operate one, you probably shouldn't be out in public
unsupervised. In the event of a sudden loss of cabin pressure, oxygen masks
will descend from the ceiling. Stop screaming, grab the mask, and pull it
over your face. If you have a small child traveling with you, secure your
mask before assisting with theirs. If you are traveling with two or more
small children, decide now which one you love more."

* "Weather at our destination is 50 degrees with some broken clouds, but
we'll try to have them fixed before we arrive. Thank you, and remember,
nobody loves you, or your money, more than Southwest Airlines."

* "Your seat cushions can be used for flotation, and in the event of an
emergency water landing, please take them with our compliments."

* Once on a Southwest flight, the pilot said, "We've reached our cruising
altitude now, and I'm turning off the seat belt sign. I'm switching to
autopilot, too, so I can come back there and visit with all of you for the
rest of the flight."

* "Should the cabin lose pressure, oxygen masks will drop from the overhead
area. Please place the bag over your own mouth and nose before assisting
children or adults acting like children."

* "As you exit the plane, make sure to gather all of your belongings.
Anything left behind will be distributed evenly among the flight
attendants. Please do not leave children or spouses."

* "Last one off the plane must clean it."


* And from the pilot during his welcome message: "We are pleased to have
some of the best flight attendants in the industry... Unfortunately, none
of them are on this flight..."

* Heard on Southwest Airlines just after a very hard landing in Salt Lake
City: The flight attendant came on the intercom and said, "That was quite a
bump and I know what ya'll are thinking. I'm here to tell you it wasn't the
airline's fault, it wasn't the pilot's fault, it wasn't the flight
attendants' fault... it was the asphalt!"

* Overheard on an American Airlines flight into Amarillo, Texas, on a
particularly windy and bumpy day. During the final approach the Captain was
really having to fight it. After an extremely hard landing, the Flight
Attendant came on the PA and announced, "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to
Amarillo. Please remain in your seats with your seatbelts fastened while
the Captain taxis what's left of our airplane to the gate."

* Another flight attendant's comment on a less than perfect landing: "We
ask you to please remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us to the
terminal."

* An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had hammered his
ship into the runway really hard. The airline had a policy which required
the first officer to stand at the door while the passengers exited, smile,
and give them a "Thanks for flying XYZ airline." He said that in light of
his bad landing, he had a hard time looking the passengers in the eye,
thinking that someone would have a smart comment. Finally everyone had
gotten off except for this little old lady walking with a cane. She said,
"Sonny, mind if I ask you a question?" "Why no Ma'am," said the pilot,
"what is it?" The little old lady said, "Did we land or were we shot down?"


* After a real crusher of a landing in Phoenix, the Flight Attendant came
on with, "Ladies and Gentlemen, please remain in your seats until Capt.
Crash and the Crew have brought the aircraft to a screeching halt against
the gate. And, once the tire smoke has cleared and the warning bells are
silenced, we'll open the door and you can pick your way through the
wreckage to the terminal."

* Part of a flight attendant's arrival announcement: "We'd like to thank
you folks for flying with us today. And, the next time you get the insane
urge to go blasting through the skies in a pressurized 

[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Corporate Takeover of Pacifica

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous





Please send as far and wide as possible.

Thanks,

Robert Sterling
Editor, The Konformist
http://www.konformist.com


If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire,
please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!"
(Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.)

Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist


Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:37:57 -0700
From: San Francisco Liberation Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Corporate Takeover of Pacifica:
A Corrupt Institution Grows Richer While Micro Radio Starves
(please post far and wide)

One of my favorite shows on San Francisco Liberation Radio these days is
the "What's Going On?" program, which airs Fridays from 4-5 p.m.  I
listen to it each week because it keeps me informed regarding the latest
events at KPFA in Berkeley--and what's happening--or shall we say
"what's going on" at that station is a rather amazing spectacle to
behold.

Friday, June 25, 4 p.m., the Richmond District of San Francisco: We hear
the strains of Marvin Gaye's familiar song and then Jeff Blankfort, the
host of the show, begins to speak, "You're listening to Marvin Gaye and
this is 'What's Going On'..."

Jeff has been an activist in the Free Pacifica/Take Back KPFA movement
for at least as long as I've known him, which is about the last six
years or so.  This should give you a clue that what's "going on" at KPFA
didn't come about overnight.  Nonetheless events over the past couple of
months alone have taken some astonishing twists and turns.

For those who live outside California, KPFA is a listener-supported
station which has been the heart and soul of the Bay Area activist
community since its founding fifty years ago.  What's befalling the
station now has some of the markings of a corporate takeover in the
classic sense of the word.  Jeff, however, who's been following the
situation far closer than have I, feels there are perhaps even more
sinister forces at work, believing the station (and the whole
five-station Pacifica Network as well) to be the target of "a
governmental operation without the usual disguises."

Jeff's latest?  That Pacifica management was apparently miffed by what
it perceived as kid glove treatment meted out by the Berkeley Police to
protestors in front of KPFA on June 20.

"The latest news, folks out there, is that Mary Francis Berry, the head
of Mr. Clinton's U.S. Civil Rights Commission--it sounds like an
oxymoron, 'U.S. Civil Rights Commission'--called Robert Fisher, the
associate attorney general in the Justice Department, whom she works
with presumably--and had HIM call Joe Brand in the COPS
Department--that's the community police operation of the U.S. Justice
Department--and HE called Dash Butler, (chief) of the Berkeley Police,
to let Mr. Butler know that he (Brand) and those above him, were
concerned with the soft treatment that those who were arrested in
Berkeley in front of Pacifica on Monday morning received from the
Berkeley Police.

"This naked move," continued Jeff, "by Mary Francis Berry--M.F. Berry,
and those initials are really appropriate in this situation--raises to a
new level the--or drops to a new low--the baseness which this Pacifica
operation is associated with.

"Before that, we found out that because of shots that were shot into the
Pacifica building the night Nicole Sawaya (former KPFA general manager)
was fired on March 31--in which nobody was injured--this building was
unmarked and it wasn't even identified as Pacifica--the windows were
clouded over--usually that means a sweat shop going on behind there...

"In any case, what happened is that Pacifica is turning over all the
emails and voice mails (regarding Sawaya's firing) it has received from
angry listeners--legitimately angry listeners--to the Berkeley Police,
who will give it then to psychologists to determine if any of KPFA's
listeners and critics have 'violent tendencies,'" said Jeff.

What's surprising about all this is not that people are angry enough to
hold protests in front of the station, or that Pacifica management is
now in the business of having its listeners investigated by the police.
No.  The part I find the most amazing is that people still give money to
that station.

Recently I heard that during its latest fundraising marathon KPFA took
in something like well over $600,000 in pledges.  The good news is that
a great many of these pledges--perhaps as high as 75 percent--were made
"under protest."  Given the undeniable "baseness" of Pacifica, which
gets, I'm told, somewhere around 17 percent of this money, that, I
suppose, is some consolation.  However, each passing day brings a new
seemingly insurmountable feat of arrogance from the management calling
the shots in this corpus delicti, and the latest rumor is that those who
made protest pledges may not be able to claim their donations as tax
exemptions.


[CTRL] Fw: FTC commissioner Orson Swindle's remarks at Net tax panel

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Swindle was long-winded but made a lot of sense. But it's still unclear
(as perhaps you might expect from a kickoff meeting) in which direction the
members are heading. One analysis I rather like is that corporate reps are
looking out for their own firms' interest first and if they can
successfully head off being hit w/add'l taxes, then they may be inclined to
link arms and offer a unified front later in the process. --Declan]

 Address to the Advisory Commission on Electronic Commerce
 Commissioner Orson Swindle
 Federal Trade Commission
 June 22, 1999


   It is a pleasure to be with you this afternoon. As is always the case
 for Federal Trade Commissioners, it is important for me to note that my
 comments today are my own and in no way represent the views of the
 Commission or of any other Commissioner.

   Thank you, Governor Gilmore, for allowing me to participate in this
 important discussion.  Also, thanks to all the other members of the
 Commission for dedicating your time and efforts to this important
 endeavor.

  Rarely has an advisory commission*s work been so important.  Rarely will
 an advisory commission*s work be followed so closely.  Rarely will an
 advisory commission have the opportunity to make a great and lasting
 impact on public policy in the United States.  I wish you the best of
 success.

  Before addressing the topic of Policy Perspectives On Taxation In Cyber
 Space, it might be helpful to share with you some personal thoughts gained
 from my years of experience as a federal official.  First and foremost,
 our Founding Fathers had it right: government should play only a minimal
 role in our lives.  I believe it was Will Rogers who once observed:  *All
 government programs have three things in common: a beginning, a middle,
 and no end."

  Given the tremendous benefits that typically flow from private markets,
 government intervention in these markets should be undertaken only when it
 is clearly necessary.  We in government, responsible for regulation and
 for economic and tax policy, should be ever mindful of the Hippocratic
 Oath -- "First, do no harm."Before embarking on any type of government
 activity, asking ourselves, "Does this make sense?" might serve us all
 well.

  This meeting is being held at a pivotal point in history.  The government
 can choose to adopt policies that promote the development of electronic
 commerce, thereby allowing Americans to realize the potential of this
 dynamic medium.  Or the government can choose policies that hinder or
 stifle electronic commerce*s development.  This is the choice that we
 confront today.

  The history of taxation seems to indicate that every time a new product,
 a new industry, a new form of social organization, or even a new economic
 concept of income or wealth has arisen, governments have moved to tax it.
 As President Reagan said,  *The government*s view of the economy could be
 summed up in a few short phrases:  If it moves, tax it.  If it keeps
 moving, regulate it.  And if it stops moving, subsidize it.*
 page 2

  Taxation is a tangible form of regulation.  There comes a time -- and in
 my view, it ought to come with great frequency -- to rationalize,
 consolidate, and simplify the existing regulatory code before adding new
 chapters to it.  That same requirement should apply to the tax code. While
 fundamental tax reform is clearly far beyond the scope of your Commission,
 I believe we would all be remiss in our various responsibilities if we
 failed to consider the long-term consequences of not implementing
 fundamental tax reform.

  My current vantage point is that of a regulatory policymaker and law
 enforcer. Congress created the FTC, and has given the FTC authority to act
 in certain situations in which government intervention in private markets
 may be needed. The role of the FTC is to enforce laws against conduct or
 transactions that are anticompetitive and against unfair or deceptive acts
 or practices.   The  FTC  is responsive to Congressional interest on a
 variety of subjects where the agency is called upon to apply its
 regulatory expertise to study a particular issue.

  Understanding the consequences of our actions is essential to decision
 making, as it should be in all government policy and action.  Even when
 government action is motivated by noble intentions, careful consideration
 must be given to unintended consequences.

  Ah, there's the rub.  As we all know from our own experiences, good
 intentions do not always carry the day.  There are seemingly always
 unintended consequences.  If our experiences teach us but one thing,
 surely it must be, "Look before you leap."

 The Question To Consider

  The question before the Commission today is whether policymakers should
 apply a Depression-era tax system to the economy of the 21st Century.  The
 answer to that question will have an enormous 

[CTRL] Fw: Anarchism and the Net, by J.Reagle

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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- Original Message -
From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:42:21 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Joseph M. Reagle Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Anarchism and the Net

Declan,

I thought you might be interested in the following, your comments would be
welcome:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/reagle/regulation-19990326.html

ABSTRACT

Many think the Internet is a good thing because it is unregulatable. The
Internet is good, but not because it cannot be regulated. Like anything
else, policies are voiced and implemented on the Internet. The true strength
of the Internet is that, as an institution, it exhibits characteristics of
policy formation that appeal to one's sense of liberty. This is not solely
because of maxims like "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes
around it," or "No one knows you're a dog on the Internet." Free speech and
privacy are laudable characteristics of the early Internet, however they are
neither absolute nor guaranteed forever more. In fact, mechanisms of
identifying oneself and controlling content can be useful as well as
invasive. Instead, what makes the Internet a "good thing" is its anarchical
characteristics of policy formation, such as decentralization, consensus,
and openness that real world social structures have striven for -- some with
more success than others. I examine these characteristics in the context of
popular Internet quotations (and anarchist principles) that act as the
belief system of the Internet.

___
Regards,  http://web.mit.edu/reagle/www/
Joseph Reagle E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65  BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E
independent research account

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[CTRL] Fw: Al Gore's War on High Tech, from the American Spectator

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Well, it's Wired News not Wired Magazine, but who am I to
complain? --Declan]



The American Spectator
July 1999

AL GORE'S WAR ON HIGH TECH
Forget the image -- the veep loathes Silicon Valley
By Grover Norquist

Declan McCullagh, a writer for Wired magazine, was watching CNN's "Late
Edition" last March 9 when Vice President Al Gore told host Wolf Blitzer
that "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." Blitzer didn't question Gore's claim,
but McCullagh did.

In fact, the first plans for what became the Internet were devised by MIT's
Lawrence G. Roberts in 1966 -- when Al Gore was all of 18. Moreover,
neither of the two men who've been nominated for a U.S. postage stamp for
actually inventing the Internet is named Al Gore. (They are Vinton Cerf and
Robert Kahn, who published "A Protocol for Packet Network Interconnection"
in 1974, years before Gore was old enough to serve in Congress.)

In the Web pages of Wired News, McCullagh reported on Gore's cavalier
attempt to take credit for the work of others. He also sent an e-mail alert
to the several thousand subscribers of his Politech mailing list. From
there, at the speed of light, Gore's lie entered the popular culture, from
teenage slang to Jay Leno's monologue, and is now as well known as Dan
Quayle's spelling of "potatoe." It is of a piece with Gore's claim that he
and Tipper Gore were the models for Eric Segal's Love Story or his boast
that he grew up ploughing hillsides in Tennessee.

[...]

Like Bill Clinton before him, Gore has posed as a New Democrat. He was a
member of the Democratic Leadership Council that supposedly stood for a
Democratic Party no longer tethered to labor unions, trial lawyers, and big
city machines.

Yet every time these pillars of the old Democratic Party have clashed with
the high-tech world, Gore has sided with the forces of the past. Every time.

[...]

[I do not think this article is yet up on http://www.spectator.org/. You'll
have to pick it up on the newsstands. --DBM]


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[CTRL] Fw: ET Disclosure on Global Politics pt1

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: David Wilcock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UFOTruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:17 AM
Subject: ET Disclosure on Global Politics pt3

UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com

ET Disclosure on Global Politics,
Immediate Future Earth Changes and Ascension Events

-by David Wilcock et al.

Greetings, members of our growing global Internet family. The following
article is a collection of the most recent "Global" material that we have
received in my deep-trance psychic readings. It contains everything
pertinent in this category that was dictated from May 1, 1999 up to June
20, 1999.

The messages in this article are of an extremely urgent nature, as they
deal with a series of massive events that are going to unfold in the very
near future upon our planetary sphere. These events will dramatically,
permanently affect every living person on Earth. The key question is
exactly what these effects will be, and how to prepare yourself to reap the
positive benefits of what is about to happen.

Please remind yourself that I am not aware of the vast majority of the
content of what is being said in these readings until I transcribe the
tapes myself. Therefore, these readings are as much of a puzzle and
surprise to me as they are to anyone else; I simply make myself available
for them to come through me. Over the last three years I have learned to
tune myself into a very deep trance that allows the information to come
through unfiltered, without any significant distortions.

This purity of contact lends itself to highly accurate future prophecies
and strange sentence structures and wordings, since my conscious mind does
not distort the results that I receive. The forces responsible for these
words have full access to the "probability vortexes" for our own future, so
we must always look ahead for the events that they prophesy, as they have
proven their accuracy on an ongoing basis. All of this work has been
fastidiously documented, and soon we will have the entire 3000-page catalog
of readings and dreams available in archive form on the ascension2000.com
website.

This is actually the third major article in a series that has been posted
on the website about the current negativity and wars on the planet and how
they might trigger a land shift on Earth. We will see how the forces were
scanning the situations surrounding the Kosovo crisis, and how the
prediction was made in a dream of Milosevic's imminent surrender. We will
also see the continually developing idea that the Ascension itself will
happen only moments before these mega-Earth Changes get started.

We have increasing reasons to believe that the time period of the Aug. 11,
1999 solar eclipse / Grand Cross conjunction could act as a "trigger-point"
for these changes, and therefore for the Ascension as well. A Nostradamus
reading from the 1500's suggests that the land shift / Ascension event
itself might not occur until two months after this conjunction, in October.
A recent article about this reading is also on the ascension2000.com
website.

The Ascension we are speaking of is a fundamental raising of the personal
vibrations of many people to a higher level of frequency, actually
rendering them invisible to those remaining in the third dimension. I have
written a massive, 300-page "tour de force" about this from the scientific
perspective, entitled Convergence. This book may be downloaded and read
free of charge on my website, www.ascension2000.com. I have received many
Emails from people who say that Convergence is "the best book they have
ever read," "completely redefining everything they understand and believe
about their lives on Earth."

As time continues to tick forward, we may or may not see events occur on
Aug.11 exactly. However, based on our scientific understanding of the
hyperdimensional physics at work in our galaxy and Solar System, we have
every reason to believe that this conjunction will significantly increase
the strength and power of the fourth-dimensional vibrations that are
streaming into the Earth and its inhabitants.

We will also see a reading in this article that explains that this eventual
burst of energy from the Galaxy's core will actually be physically visible
in our skies! This might possibly be related to the idea of a "Coronal Mass
Ejection" from the Sun, although it was not directly stated one way or the
other in the reading itself. [Note: I just saw "11:11" on the clock as I
reread this sentence. That is the exact time that the sun goes corona
during the Aug. 11 eclipse.]

So, what we can make from all this is that "at the last minute," we have
been able to figure out the hard science behind what is an eminently
spiritual event on Earth. Most people look at this Ascension in terms of
faith, and would not realize that it could actually be studied
scientifically. We believe that this work will attract a great deal more
attention once the first 'wave' of Ascension has 

[CTRL] Fw: ET Disclosure on Global Politics pt2

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: David Wilcock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UFOTruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:17 AM
Subject: ET Disclosure on Global Politics pt3

UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com

-BEGIN PART TWO: "ET UPDATE?"-

Thursday 5 / 27 / 99 - 7:18 a.m.

The average brother (in your colonial building) was open to a whole host of
different tactics that would explain why the constitution was in deferment.
As they asked me if I was holding onto something, but not realizing
anything about what that question meant, I had to reply with a question.
And that question was, "Can despair and injustice be allowed to continue in
the world?"

[Note: Based on the other readings in the articles before this, the
"something" that the ETs are holding onto is the knowledge of the imminent
use of further Earth Changes to counterbalance the current negatively
polarized political and societal situations on Earth. So, by balancing out
our negativity as per the Law of Karma, they are helping to stop "despair
and injustice from being allowed to continue in the world." Obviously the
"brother in the colonial building" is about the various forces in the
United States Government.]

Their minds are clever with hatred. Part of what we are seeing here [in the
present world picture] is the machinations of the deeper plan.

I vaulted down the reading text room, screaming. Now here and thereafter,
this had really become something much more wonderful than I had ever
imagined before. So from our perspective, things are indeed looking pretty
good, I think. Tie a tether to the balloon of the Spirit and be prepared
for the ride as the Upgrade looms closer. Many scientists will be quite
puzzled and perplexed about this afterwards, but this is definitely not
[going to be] an optical illusion.

[Note: The reading is saying here that the cataclysmic changes need not be
feared for those who are following the basic teachings of service to
others, reaching the critical 51-percent threshold that makes them
'Ascension Compatible.' This is the "Upgrade" that they are speaking of.]

DREAM:

There was some kind of parade going on that was supposed to be unique to
Virginia. I then found out that it was actually like a military operation;
there were military guys all up and down, and they didn't even want me to
talk. I was trying to fix my car - that was the big thing. I tried to talk
on my phone and someone just immediately shut me up.

Then, I went back to this house that belonged to a spiritually minded woman
I know. I looked up into a large tree in the end, and saw something so
horrifying that I almost threw up right on the spot. The tree was totally
overcome with festering slime, and there were all these babies in little
amniotic fluid sacs hanging off of it. It was a really big tree and there
were a lot of them, stretching over the roof of the house and into the
yard.

[Note: If we look at the context between these two paragraphs above, the
obvious implications in this dream are that this horrible pestilence being
referred to has to do with the highly negative military actions now
occurring on the planet. I have omitted the more graphic details for our
squeamish readers.]

Since I didn't see anything else I could do to stop this pestilence, I
decided to start hurling rocks up at them. Even though I should have been
afraid, I felt like I was just doing a necessary job and that it could be
taken care of if I worked at it long enough. I did not feel that I was in
danger, despite the horrors of the task I was undertaking.

After this whole baby scene, I found this person who was like my brother's
girlfriend. We were walking outside and I asked her if this tree thing was
really a big problem. She said no, and that there were some guys who were
coming to take care of it. I then realized that the horrifying clean-up
work that I had chosen to do was not really my responsibility at all.

I then looked over and realized that my car was over in the next door
neighbor's driveway, and it was unbelievably new looking! There was no rust
on it, and it looked very nice- it was brand new, shiny and polished. That
was when I realized that someone had obviously taken really good care of my
car in order to have it become so completely renewed in this fashion.

[Note: Some obvious things about the dream metaphor here are the idea of a
new car being formed. This is the new vehicle, or body, that those who
Ascend will be inhabiting in the fourth dimensional Earth that is now being
born. Also there is again the repetitive metaphor of the idea of not
worrying about Earth Changes and pestilence, as the Ascension happens
before the worst of these events. Furthermore, the "guys who were coming to
take care of it" refer to the Extraterrestrials.]

READING:

In order to finish a large Experiment, we need to react to the Divine will
of all forces involved. The free-will decisions of your people still
determine the course of future 

[CTRL] Fw: ET Disclosure on Global Politics pt3

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: David Wilcock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UFOTruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:17 AM
Subject: ET Disclosure on Global Politics pt3


UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com

-BEGIN PART THREE: "ET UPDATE?"-

DREAM:

I had some incredible telekinetic abilities in this dream, including the
ability to dig holes in some soil that looked like grain. I was only trying
to dig a nine inch deep hole, but I ended up using so much of my psychic
power that I vaporized all the grain, in what appeared to be like three of
the stalls in a barn. Then after that, they were filled up with something
else. Later on in the dream, I was actually able to recreate this food in
other places, as well as hammer in nails at a distance through focused
psychokinesis.

[Note: This portion certainly seems to be about food losses - entire giant
rooms of grain suddenly ceasing to be present, as well as the idea that
those Ascended could recreate them.]

READING:

The senate makes tougher laws on gun restrictions as a result of this whole
debacle. Meanwhile, the fish fillet continues to settle down into a new
predicament, and the oceans have been raped long enough; they cease to be
viable in the future long-term scenarios. That is yet another problem that
we face here and should not be ignored.

[Note: Another obvious statement about the imminent food shortage problems
that we face.]

Nor should the dividers that would settle up the lands amongst themselves
fail to realize that the clubhouse they are playing in is not impervious to
damage from outside forces such as ourselves, who would seek to right these
situations. So don't fret and fume about the politics that you see on the
Earth, as the focus, as always, is upon your own spiritual growth,
enlightenment and Ascension.

[Note: Again, the forces are saying that even now that the war is over,
there may still be Earth Changes in the Balkans "to right these situations"
if they become too warlike or greedy. We have already seen an earthquake in
Kosovo right in the middle of the war, as well as the almost constant bad
weather that NATO had to contend with during their bombing campaign.]

We can say that the y2k collapse will indeed be of the ice storm variety,
relative to the listing in the article that David has recently seen.
Bearing that in mind, it is important to continue to prepare your food
supplies, as we have always noted. Most importantly are to store the brown
rice and dried beans in large 50-pound bags.

[Note: The article they are referring to was on the Sightings website, and
was supposedly the results of a Department of the Navy / DIA think-tank on
the y2k situation. They classified the possibilities of social problems
into four main categories:

1. Tornadoes - Short-term disasters in small, isolated areas.
2. Hurricanes - Short-term disasters in larger areas.
3. Floods - Long-term disasters in large areas.
4. Ice Storm - Long-term disasters throughout the entire national
infrastructure.

Obviously, the message being given to us here by the readings is to be
prepared. However, the further implications are that many of those who will
Ascend might not be around for the brunt of these disasters and land
shifts. We should still prepare as though we will be around for them; if
not for ourselves than for others.]

The Amtrak train station is boarding its passengers as the vehicle into
higher realms now. And thus, as you do this, keep your focus on the
Ascension and on the validity of these experiences in our society. You will
notice that more and more, you are becoming a being of light, able
transcend the difficulties and hardships all around you. That was the point
of this dream this morning as well.

[Note: What they mean by this was that the telekinetic ability to hammer
nails at a distance to build new houses, and also the ability make food and
water disappear and reappear are the Christlike abilities of a person who
has Ascended.]

D: I also just again cued on "Taepo Dong Missile."


Wednesday 6 / 16 / 99 - 4:34 a.m.

The world inbreeds the more that time goes on. Even some of our most secure
sources revealed that knowledge to us. The human embryo develops in its sac
a little while longer, and we already know the outcome of that particular
question.

[Note: The first sentence above seems quite similar to what was said by the
ET's who spoke through Betty Andreasson; namely that humankind would become
sterile. The second sentence about the developing embryo obviously has to
do with the Ascension / rebirth that we are waiting to see. It also has to
do with the genetic program of the Extraterrestrials to produce the bodies
we will inhabit in the new fourth dimensional Earth that we are all so
looking forward to becoming a part of.]

To keep a journal or diary on these utterances is quite good, and remind
yourself that when we have completed the mission, all failures will only be
seen in the Light of missed 

[CTRL] [6] Inside The League

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Inside The League
Scott Anderson and Jon Lee Anderson©1986
Dodd, Mead  Company
79 Madison Avenue
New York, N.Y. 10016
ISBN 0-396-08517-2
322pps — out-of-print/one edition
[re-print/first edition available from:
W. Clement Stone, P M A Communications, Incorporated]
--[6]--

Six.

I suspected the Tecos were involved. If they're fighting the communists, they
must have links to the death squads. For fear of being caught, they've
compartmentalized their thing.
-Former League member

IN EARLY APRIL 1970, heavily armed police in the northern Mexico city of
Hermosillo sealed off a section of Calle 14 de Abril and, with guns drawn,
stormed one of its buildings. In its cluttered rooms, they discovered Nazi
magazines and leaflets, piles of Hitler's book, Mein Kampf and code books.
Most intriguing of all were a half-dozen grotesque papier-mache masks.

The masks were props used at initiation ceremonies for one of Mexico's most
violent and feared secret societies. The raid was a strike against the Tecos,
a network of some three or four hundred neo-Nazis whose members were divided
into cells and took oaths of blind obedience to their leaders. But the Tecos
were not young swastika-clad misfits who plastered their bedroom walls with
posters of Hitler; they were some of Mexico's most influential
leaders—industrialists, bankers, and college professors-and had been accused
of coordinating innumerable acts of violence, including dozens of political
assassinations, in previous years.

The Hermosillo raid did not result in a large government investigation or
dissolution of the Tecos. In Mexico, where corruption is rife and where the
institutionalized ruling political party has a long tradition of
tolerating-and playing off-extremist movements of both the left and right,
the Tecos were able to control the damage done by the 1970 raid and continue
their activities. They were still in place when the World Anti-Communist
League came looking for a Latin American affiliate in 1972.

Not only were the Tecos allowed to establish the Mexican League chapter, they
were given a mandate to form the entire South and Central American regional
organization of the League. Naturally, they chose kindred spirits, quickly
making the Latin American AntiCommunist Confederation (CAL) one of the
region's most powerful and deadly ultra-right federations. As "Lobo," the
Honduran doctor/ assassin, told one of the authors in 1983, it was a
federation that served as a coordinating body for death squads throughout the
region. In recent years, the slogan of the once-obscure Tecos, Contra la
guerrilla roja, la guerrilla blanca ("Against the red guerrilla, the white
guerrilla"), has been put into practice throughout the continent.

Ironically, this prestige and influence, this "miracle," to quote the Tecos,
would probably have never occurred if it hadn't been for the financial
assistance of the U. S. government and some of America's largest
philanthropic foundations.

The Tecos trace their historical roots to the Mexican Revolution of the
1910s. Mexico was in the grip of a violent civil war that was greatly
exacerbated by government anti-clerical campaigns. The Catholic Church, which
owned vast tracts of the country, bore the brunt of the revolutionary zeal of
a wide range of groups, ranging from impoverished and landless peasants to
leftist intellectuals. Priests were murdered and churches were bombed or
sacked.

To defend the Church and fight back, the Legion of Christ the King, or Los
Cristeros, was formed. The counterrevolutionary Cristeros were a secret army
that, like the Holy Crusaders they emulated, rode into battle with the
blessings of priests. For them, this wasn't a revolution but a holy war, and
they were fully prepared to die for their God and the Virgin against the
"Satanists." In the ensuing strife, which took tens of thousands of Mexican
lives, the Cristeros played their role.

Upon the success of the Mexican Revolution, the Cristeros were officially
disbanded. In the 1930s a French Jesuit priest, Bernardo Bergoend, sought to
unite the Mexican Catholic opposition to counter the anti-Church government
that had been installed.

Bergoend advanced a scheme for double organization; one group was to concern
itself with political mass action, the other was to be a section devoted to
social action. Bluntly, the mass organizations were to be directed from above
by a select leadership, i.e., a secret society.

Tecos ... represented the effective leadership of this entire complex The
members, especially the younger ones, were expected to fight, wherever and
whenever this was indicated, for the interests of the Church and the
country.[1]

In these early days, the Tecos were not strictly a fascist organization; they
were basically devout Catholics and traditionalists who took up arms to
defend the old, established order. That changed, however, after World War II.
Through the efforts of two men, a Mexican Nazi who had 

[CTRL] [14] Loud and Clear

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Loud and Clear
Lake Headly and William Hoffman©1990
Henry Holt and Company
115 W. 18th St.
New York, NY 10011
ISBN 0-8050-1138-2
272 pps — out-of-print/one edition
--[14]--

14

JoDon

Don Devereux and I sat in the Westward Ho Coffee Shop. We met, or talked on
the phone, every day, and often went from these confabs to conduct interviews
or research.

"Last night," Devereux said, "as I thumbed through my old IRE notes, I came
across the name Michael JoDon."

"What's JoDon about?"

"I can't recall exactly; I've misplaced my notes on him. All I have is a
name, a phone number, and a reference to Monte Kobey. Kobey was, I think,
related by marriage to Bradley Funk and was indicted with Ned Warren for land
fraud."

The mention of Ned Warren captured my attention.

Sent to Arizona in the late 1960s by New York City underworld bosses, Warren
worked his way up to a fifty-year prison sentence in 1978 for land fraud.
When he called himself The Godfather of Land Fraud, he didn't exaggerate. He
bilked tens of millions of dollars from thousands of investors. Warren and
his cohorts engineered gold and diamond swindles (flecks of gold were
shotgunned into the walls of a depleted mine); oil, gas, and coal scams; the
sale of arthritis and cancer cures (the arthritis remedy was a simple cactus
juice and water concoction); and of course the staple: "a dream tract of
land" that turned out to be an arid desert nightmare, the cruelest sort of
fraud directed mainly at people who had worked a lifetime to save enough to
buy a retirement home.

Not surprisingly, Don Bolles was among the first in the nation to investigate
and expose Arizona land fraud operations.

My interest was piqued, however, by more than Ned Warren. There were those
Mafia connections, and of course the name Bradley Funk always made my ears
prick up.

"Did you ever meet with JoDon?" I asked.

"Yeah. He told me he dated Kara Kobey, Monte's daughter, and he overheard
part of a conversation about the Bolles murder. I didn't have time to pursue
it then. But when I found the name in my notes, I thought you might want to."

"What do you know about JoDon?"

"Practically nothing. He was an informant for the Scottsdale Police
Department, and they had some sort of falling out."

" Let's call that number now."

We carried Styrofoam cups of coffee to my suite. More would be ordered up if
locating JoDon outlasted four cups. So obsessed had I become with trying to
find ways to free Dunlap and Robison that every waking hour was devoted to
the case—including fun times with Terri Lee—and at night, visions of death
chambers and exploding cars would blast me out of sleep.

Even threatening phone calls, which I probably would have taken more
seriously in less hectic times, got ignored. I'd received four already, the
last only two days before. "Get out of town tonight, asshole," rasped a
menacing voice. And added, just so I understood: "Fuckin' asshole, you don't
leave tonight, you'll end up like fuckin' Bolles."

My four threats from nameless, faceless callers amounted to a trickle
compared to the flak Devereux was encountering on the street. Constantly
being told his life was in danger, the journalist could believe it after that
pickup truck tried to run him down in the alley. But neither of us was going
to back off. We'd probably have to get into a new line of work if we did, and
in any case be always haunted by the knowledge that we didn't have what it
took.

"May I speak to Michael JoDon, please," I asked when a voice answered the
ringing phone.

"This is his father. Can I help you?"

"Mr. JoDon, my name's Lake Headley. The Dunlap defense committee has retained
me to investigate the Bolles homicide. We're trying to accumulate enough
evidence for new trials. I'm sitting here now with Don Devereux of the
Scottsdale Progress. Mr. Devereux spoke with your son about a year ago and
tells me Michael has information on the Bolles killing. I'd like to talk with
him."

"I'm sorry. He's not here. My son is a fugitive."

"From what? Why is he a fugitive?"

"He's wanted for sale of hashish to an undercover policewoman. They framed
Michael, Mr. Headley, because he knows too much about the murder of Don
Bolles. He realized he can't get a fair trial, and he left the state.
Actually, he's afraid for his life."

"I assure you, Mr. JoDon, I'm not a police officer and I have no interest in
jailing your son. I only want to talk to him about the Bolles killing."

"He knows a lot about that. But I don't know if he will talk to you. And he's
a long way away."

A long way? Distance didn't matter. If he knew "a lot" about this murder, I'd
travel around the world to see him.

"Can you get in touch with Michael?" I asked.

"To tell the truth, I have no idea where he is. He calls me once a week, but
says it's better that I don't know his whereabouts."

"When is he due to call again?"

"Day after tomorrow."

"Mr. JoDon, please do me a big favor. Give your son a message. 

Re: [CTRL] [SC] Media Violence

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: gene johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: SkeptiChat list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 11:24 AM
Subject: [SC] Media Violence


 # 'Scream' evidence barred from trial. (AP)  The boys were obsessed
 with the horror movie "Scream." They...moved to replicate killings
 in the 1996 Wes Craven film.
 http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560091104-244

 : Do violent media presentations make you want to kill? Do war movies
 incite wars?

 A brain center in the reptilian-similar or emotional brain becomes
 more sensitive to triggering the release of aggressive and defensive
 behavior, the more the organism is exposed to violence. The subject
 bilateral center, the amygdala ( almond-shaped ) is responsible for
 releasing reflexive and rapid aggressive behavior and can potentiate
 more complex, higher order behavior as well.  Since the amygdala
 system is sensitive to visual and auditory stimuli, violent multi-
 media cinematic presentations add to the conditioning and sensitiza-
 tion of this structure and lower the threshold for the release of
 violence behavior.

 Acting out of aggressive behavior patterns in 'play' is frequently
 seen in children who have been exposed to violent film and television
 presentations.  Pleasurable and reinforcing endo-opiates are released
 after violent episodes.  Extra passionate lovemaking by couples after
 an argument rides and enhances the endo-opiate pleasure waves.

 Ape-Angel

Today I heard a report on the radio [I'll try to track it down in
net news] that an extensive, long-term study shows that ALL youthful
violence is related to: food allergies/sensitivities.  The leading
foods correlated with youthful violence are wheat, corn, and: sugar.
Hell, I was a hyper kid, and I was very violent, and I consumed all
the sugar I could get hold of.  I'm not surprised by these findings
at all.  The Western hemisphere was conquered by Europeans for the
benefit of druglords, growing and transporting the most powerful of
psychogens: coffee and cocoa [caffeine], tobacco [nicotine], and
sugar cane and its byproduct rum [alcohol].

Sugar is a substance of abuse, same as opiates, cocaine, alcohol,
nicotine, gunpowder. The difference is, we ENCOURAGE our youth to
abuse sugar - then we act surprised when, their growing bodies and
minds over-amped by its effects, they explode in violence, especially
in a culture that's extolled and honored violence for so long.  Are
violent behaviors triggered by media depictions of violence?  Well,
maybe.  Does every person exposed to media violence, react with more
violence?  Nope.  Do kids who have access to guns kill more people
than those without such access?  Yup.  Canadian and European kids
are exposed to violent US media - Japanese kids see even MORE hard-
core violent/sexual media - yet those kids DON'T go postal as much
as US kids.  Why not?  They don't have guns.

Maybe it's a conspiracy.  Maybe the druglords, the gunlords [Chinese
weapons makers, US distributors], and the medialords are working
together to zap generations of kids worldwide, more cattle to be
harvested by their Reptilioid masters, eh?  Maybe they're experimen-
ting with various combinations of alcohol, tobacco, sugar, media,
guns, different levels of each in different markets, to determine
the optimal mix for harvestable populations.

  Ric "or maybe they're just a bunch of greedy bastards" Carter

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frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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Re: [CTRL] Inside Bohemian Grove

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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- Original Message -
From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Ric Carter wrote:
  From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   could it be that the secret government in order to allay the fears
   of the masses simply 'allowed' a reporter into Bohemian Grove to
   witness a staged  event that conveyed the impression of total
   innocence and sporty fun eg. 'mock druidic ritual' - etc
 
  I live a few miles upriver from Boho Grove and every year I see the
  helis flying overhead bearing the participants, hear the stories of

 The Russian River area is a beautiful spot.  When I went to Sonoma
 State, we used to picnic in the area..but if I'm not mistaken, the
 area is considered to be a "power spot."

Ah, another SSU alumnus.  Yah, this is a "power zone" all right,
but most places over which people have contested are "power spots",
one way or another.  Do locations gain Power by being fought for,
or do people desire such places because of their Power, or both or
none of the above?  If ever-increasing population levels result in
more people fighting over more places, will the whole Earth become
so charged-up with Power that it explodes?  Are Boho participants
just Reptilioid/Republican stooges?  What's the plot?

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[CTRL] More Free Stock

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Here's another start up company offering free stock...

There is a new company that does business on the net called PopularLink.
They are going public soon.  They are offering free stocks to anyone who
registers with them.  They ask for no personal information and they don't
spam.

To get the free stock, go to their web site at www.PopularLink.com and
click Bonus.  After you fill out your e mail address, you will receive
an e mail with a pin number.  When you fill out the information for the
free stock, reference the E-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] (then, I
will receive
one share of stock for every person that registers).

When you reference people to this free stock offer, you will receive one
more share of stock for every person who fills out the form and references
your e mail address. Please remember too include my E-mail address when you
join them.  I appreciate your help.

The last company to try this was Yahoo and Amazon.com

see ya at the bank...

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[CTRL] revolutionary brotherhood (fwd)

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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-- Forwarded message -
  Citation: Journal of Social History Winter 1998, v.32, 2, 455(3)
Author:  Weisberger, William R.
 Title: Revolutionary Brotherhood: Freemasonry and the
   Transformation of the American Social Order,
   1730-1840.(Review) (book reviews) reviewed by William
   R. Weisberger

COPYRIGHT 1998 Peter N. Stearns
  By Steven C. Bullock (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press for
the Institute of Early American History and Culture, Williamsburg, Va., 1996.
xviii plus 421pp. $49.95).
  This encompassing and stimulating study by Steven C. Bullock reveals much
about the prominent place of Freemasonry in America between 1730 and 1840.
Bullock's major aims are to examine the ideological features of Masonic
ritualism and to explain the institutional functions and operations of the
order's grand and local lodges. He advances convincing theses concerning the
ritualistic attractiveness of Enlightenment doctrines associated with deism
and Newtonianism, concerning the privacy and sociability of Masonry's local
lodges, and concerning the great appeal of the order to members of
middle-class elites in America. Bullock well demonstrates also that Masonry
was intimately involved in attempting to create an enlightened republic and a
mercantile society in America between 1790 and 1825 and that as a result of
the Antimasonic movement, the Craft was seriously discredited in many regions
of the North between 1826 and 1840. This work is both chronologically and
topically arranged and contains eleven chapters and four parts.
  In the first part of the book, Bullock explains the origins and evolution of
Speculative Freemasonry in Augustan England and in colonial America. Unlike
most scholarly studies which deal with the rise of the modern Masonic
movement, Bullock's work does devote attention to occult legacies and to
operative masonry in its treatment of the formation of the Modern Grand Lodge.
However, Bullock, like Margaret C. Jacob and this reviewer, accentuates the
ideological and institutional connections between the Enlightenment and Modern
London Masonry. The author lucidly demonstrates that the first three Masonic
degrees, among other things, embodied doctrines of deism, Newtonianism, and
Palladianism; he also argues that these three degrees fused the teachings of
classical civilization with those of eighteenth century society and thus
revealed the importance of order and harmony within Nature. There also are
fine sections about the activities of the London Grand Lodge and its local
lodges; Bullock shows that this grand lodge, which was established in 1717,
operated according to Whiggish doctrines specified in a constitution. Local
lodges were involved with tavern and club life, helped to foster genteel
practices, and recruited their members from noble and middle-class elites and
from the Royal Society and other cultural institutions in the city.
  Under the jurisdiction of the Modern London Grand Lodge, colonial
Freemasonry flourished. Bullock shows that local lodges, which were
responsible to provincial grand masters, quickly emerged during the 1730s in
Boston, Philadelphia, New York, and Charleston; he maintains that colonial
Masons constituted a "United Party of Virtue" and that the concepts of love,
honor, benevolence, gentility, and privacy explained why they wished to
associate with the order. The author presents a fine occupational analysis of
members of lodges in Boston and in Philadelphia; these lodges - and probably
others in the colonies during the 1750s and 1760s - consisted predominantly of
merchants, of some physicians, lawyers, and soldiers, and of a few artisans.
Many members of these lodges occupied leadership positions in other civic
institutions and consequently were boosters.
  In the second part of the book, Bullock first discusses Ancient Masonry and
then the Craft's role in the American Revolution. There is a detailed chapter
concerning the emergence and the consolidation of Ancient Freemasonry in the
colonies. Bullock shows that this system, which came in the 1750s from England
to America, and which had slightly different rituals and practices from those
of Modern Masonry, especially appealed to members of artisanal groups in
Boston, in Philadelphia, and in other eastern colonial cities. Forcing the
decline of Modern Masonry, Ancient lodges by the 1760s became firmly
established in colonial settlements in both piedmont and backcountry regions.
The members of lodges in these two regions perceived Ancient Masonry as being
a source of cosmopolitanism and republicanism and looked to it for social
activities and contacts. Ancient lodges as well assimilated into a common
setting individuals of diverse ethnic and religious backgrounds and recruited
to their ranks professionals, merchants, military men, and 

Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 --
  From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
  Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 4:04 PM
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  How can there be humor in an illegal act followed by a threat?  Sure,
 this is
  clever.  But sends the wrong message.

 I have often noted that many members on this list are completely devoid of
 a funny bone!!!
 Lighten up - it's life.

 Hilary

Good one. Got any more?

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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AOL User wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 I would not advocate this as a joke.  And I do not think most people would.

I would. It was a cute joke.

 To do so would be immoral to me as it teaches theft and threatening.  I don't
 understand people who think the tenor of this joke is just "a joke" and we
 all should "lighten up".  It reminds me of the frog in the cold water who
 didn't notice the heat turning up slowly and steadily.

 Although I agree with Hilary that, unfortunately, the joke exemplifies life
 these days.

I strongly suggest you give up religion and take up bestiality sex and
drugs.
It could only improve your personality.

Dr. Laura J2

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity]

1999-06-28 Thread nurev

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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:32:46 -0700
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nessie wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Tell ya what, Ric, when we can elect our bosses, when we can elect our
 landlords, when we can hold referendums on the price of bread, then I'll
 start thinking this place is on its way to becoming a democracy. In the
 meantime, let's be frank; it's a fascist  police state. If you have any
 doubts, dress in old clothes, leave your money, credit cards  and IDs at
 home and go for a walk at night in a rich neighborhood.

 The only real democracy is direct democracy. Electoral politics is a scam.
 We don't choose our leaders. We choose some of their henchmen.

 Big whoop.

It's hard for most people to give up that last illusion. To do so
means to
admit powerlessness and gullibility. So against all logic people like
Ric,
which is the vast majority after all, would rather rearrange the deck
chairs
on the Titanic, than actually change the situation.

You can't change the system by voting. It's simply not designed for
that
purpose.

Joshua2
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[CTRL] NO MANDATE: To vote or not to vote in 2000.

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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=
==
ELECTION 2000
NO MANDATE !
==

DON'T VOTE ! IT JUST ENCOURAGES THEM.

   The accumulation of wealth brings with it an accumulation of power and
influence disproportional to the actual numbers of wealthy groups, and
individuals existing in a society.
   1) I believe there is a way to break the hold of big money on the
Presidency, and other major political positions at the national governmental
level. This can be achieved by modifying our views on how to utilize the
electoral process to recapture and strengthen the limited democracy we had.
Whatever power voters had was stolen from the American people by U.S. and
foreign moneyed interests.
   2) Nullifying political bribery by the Duopoly can be accomplished in a
non-violent manner, and DOES NOT REQUIRE ACTIVE COOPERATION AMONG
GROUPS WITH DIFFERING IDEOLOGIES.

   Please consider the following: The diversity and size of the U.S. plays
right into the hands of the ruling class and their institutions. It's easy to
keep a society like this divided along natural fault lines. Class, race,
religion, gender, sexual preference, occupation, philosophical outlook,
regionalism, and multiculturalism, are some reasons that truly mass movements
are almost impossible to organize in this country. The obvious exceptions are
war, and disaster.
   Though there are more people getting involved in grass roots politics,
they are organizing around narrow interests. I'm not belittling those
interests. I'm simply saying that the mass power of the public is not being
focused on the weak points in the system. Those are, the ability to
effect change through voting ( or not voting ), spending ( or not spending ),
and paying taxes ( or withholding your taxes ).

   The problem with voting, is that those who have stolen the democratic
process, present us with the option of picking any one of THEIR candidates
that we like. The process of running for any national office, is actually a
filtering process that "BOTH" parties use to insure that only those
acceptable to the ruling class will be presented to us for rubber stamping.
Thus, they have taken the choice out of our choosing process. Most people now
realize that something is very wrong here, and are quite angry about it. This
is not democracy.
   ["Don't cling to a political party that has been converted to
neo-conservatism. [[ Like Clinton/Gore's " New Dems," or " New Labor " in Britain,
or " Third Way " Socialists. - J2 ]] Once the party has been taken over, maintaining
solidarity on the outside while seeking change from within merely gives them more
time. When the spirit of the party is dead, shed the old skin and create something
new".
   - TIPS ON HOW TO OPPOSE CORPORATE RULE -
   from the book " Economic Fundamentalism " by Dr Jane Kelsey, U of
Auckland, NZ ]

   Because he was elected with only 43% of the vote (1992- in a three way race ),
Clinton was perceived as being politically weak, and forced to compromise
more than he really wanted to. Of course that didn't extend to pro business
issues like NAFTA and GATT and Fast Track.
   Reagan, on the other hand was perceived as having won by a "landslide", and
had a strong mandate to do anything he wished, while the press cowered before
the will of the people. Consequently, he became the " teflon " president.
( Referring of course, to the substance between his ears.)
   The point is, the importance of the perception of popular support. Imagine
a President elected by only 35% or less. How difficult might it be for such
an unpopular elected official to raise taxes, cut social programs, get us
into an oil war, or turn our national forces over to the institutions of World
Federalism like NATO and the U.N., when so few would have voted for him (/her)?

   I am convinced that elections in the near future will incorporate "third"
parties. This will become necessary to maintain the illusion of democratic
participation. The Duopoly has played itself out. Too many voters hate the
Democrats, AND the Republicans. Successful "third" parties will also be owned
by Big Business. Why give up a good scam? This will then camouflage the lack
of democracy for yet one more generation, while rich ruling "elites" around
the world link up to achieve their long held dream of a worldwide economic
system with them in charge. If this scenario does in fact play out, then
imagine what it would take to dislodge them from positions of power around
the world.

   I have a simple, do-able plan to stop, or at least slow down this process
of fake democracy. The solution is to allow people the choice of NOT voting.
Legitimize not voting as the only real choice in a field of hand picked
candidates, and you will have a defacto "NO MANDATE" movement. A national
expression of no confidence for all the world to see. The American Emperors
have no cloths.
   Not voting will require legitimization. 

[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: KN4M 06-27-99

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous





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27 June 1999
Index

Keithfest at Steamshovel
Kenn Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

FeedBack: Tim Beckley on Jim Keith

Robert Parry's Lost History
Robert Parry ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Free Trade At Work

Five Marines Need Your Help

BIG-NAME CANDIDATES BOW TO MEDIA POWER
Norman Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

A Call for Action from Luna


Keithfest at Steamshovel
Date:   Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:40:35 AM
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Steamshovel web site has some more thoughts by Mr. Keith in its "Offline
Illumination" column. The "Latest Word" column for this week also contains a
response to Jim's "Casebook on Alternative 3" by Leslie Watkins, the author
of the original Alternative Three book. Previous "Latest Word" columns,
still clickable include a
back-and-forth on "Revising Reality" by Jim Keith and Excluded Middle editor
Greg Bishop.

http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/offline.htm

http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/lword.htm

kt
**
This is a response to my latest article from prominent UFO/conspiracy 
publisher Tim Beckley in which he suggests that I deliberately put errors in 
my email list so that people can't reply to what I say.  There is only one 
error in that thinking: if I had, then I wouldn't have been able to mail to 
the list, either.  Anyway, I offered to mail Tim's comments to my list, and 
they follow.

Jim Keith

From: Tim Beckley ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 While Keith may have some basic truth here in the "believability factor"
 of UFOs and Conspiracies he should be the last to cast the first stone.
 
 I recall in his Black Helicopters One book that he printed photo after
 photo of sign posts with flourescent markings on the back indicating
 that they were roadmaps for UN troops to follow when they take away our
 civil rights. First off how could UN troops  take control of
 anything...we see how totally ineffective
  they are in dealing with situations around the world. Any farmer with a
 pitchfork in Kansas could take on an entire battalion
 of UN forces and beat their ass. Furthermore if he had done any research
 he would realize by talking to any road crew that the markings and codes
 on the back of these signs are codes as to where the signs get posted on
 highways, etc. Are UN troops supposed to stop at every crossroad and get
 out of their tanks and read the signs...we can just point them in the
 wrong direction so that they end up outside Jim Keith's front door and
 David Icke's problems will be solved.
 Yes lets put our skull caps on and do some rational thinking but
 less of calling 
 the kettle black . . . has Keith nothing better to do than write e mail
 after e mail being critical of others; why doesnt he at least do what
 Peter G. from CAUS does and send out poetry once a week?  
 Besides we should all join forces because they want to make a law
 banning all unsolicited e mails like the ones Jim has been sending
 lately (only kidding I tell people there is always the discard button).
 Also Jim how can we forward this to your list as there seems to be a few
 deliberately misspelled e mails so the entire mailing is returned?
 Hasn't your list the right to hear responses or is this a one way
 street?.
**
Subj:   Robert Parry's Lost History
Date:   Saturday, June 26, 1999 05:59:41 PM
From:   Ifmagazine

How did the vaunted Watergate press corps of the 1970s become the Monica 
Lewinsky press corps of the 1990s?

What's true and what's not about cocaine trafficking by Ronald Reagan's 
Nicaraguan contras?

What happened to honest reporters when they tried to tell the American people 
what was really going on?

Did the CIA oversee a secret plan in the 1980s to manipulate U.S. public 
opinion, so-called 'Project Truth'?

The answers are part of Robert Parry's just-published 300-page book, Lost 
History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press  'Project Truth.' Parry is the former 
AP-Newsweek reporter who broke many of the stories now known as the 
Iran-contra affair. He currently edits iF Magazine and the online 
publication, Consortiumnews.com

Packed with formerly secret documents, the book explains how the Reagan 
administration engaged in a domestic-propaganda scheme called "perception 
management." Not only was disinformation systematically fed to the American 
people on a variety of foreign policy topics, but retaliation was exacted 
against journalists, political leaders and citizen activists who wouldn't go 
along.

The book reveals how White House aide Oliver North sicced the FBI on his 

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THEOLOGY IN WASHINGTON

Added Cmdr. David B. McDonald, the supervisor of police Y2K planning, "We 
want to reassure the residents and visitors to the District that even if 
Armageddon comes, we will assist and protect the public." -- Washington Post

PARENTING IN WASHINGTON

FROM AN AD IN A WASHINGTON WEEKLY: We are looking for a 
babysitter/housekeeper for our busy family. We are working parents with six 
year old twins. The twins are a boy and a girl and will be in first grade in 
the fall  We live in a large house in the Palisades  which is close 
to pool, library, parks, shopping and restaurants. 

The job requires that the babysitter/housekeeper arrive at 7:30 to get the 
kids out of bed, make their beds and breakfast, help them get dressed and 
drive them to school by 8:45 am. Between 8:45 and 3:00 (or later if the kids 
have after school activities)   the babysitter/housekeeper must be 
available to take care of kids if they are sick, to accept deliveries and 
let repair people into the house and do laundry and light housekeeping  

At 3:00 pm the children must be picked up from school and taken to after 
school activities and any other appointments such as allergy shots. The 
children should be fed dinner, bathed and helped with putting on their 
pajamas. At 7:00 pm, one or both parents return home. . . 

OF SLAVERY AND STARDOM

When the NBA's $8-million-a-year Larry Johnson referred to himself and his 
co-payers as "rebellious slaves," he took a public whipping. Johnson later 
refused to back down at a news conference called by the NBA and the Knicks. 
Here's some of what he said as reported in the Philadelphia Daily News:
 
JOHNSON: Let me ask you a question. Did I lie? Oh, OK. I'm telling the 
truth. Y'all know it. 
REPORTER: This is what people see. People see you have an $84 million
contract.
JOHNSON: $84 million contract.  
REPORTER: You work for a company, a multibillion-dollar company. 
JOHNSON: Work for a company.  Keep going.  We've got to stay after practice 
to continue this.  
REPORTER: And you could go teach in high school for work. 
JOHNSON: Teach in high school, keep going, keep going.  
REPORTER: Yet you bring up the word 'slave'. 
JOHNSON: Bring up the word 'slave.' Keep talking.  
REPORTER: And people say, 'What the hell is he talking about?' 
JOHNSON: What the hell is he talking about? Reporter: What the hell are you 
talking about?  
JOHNSON [to Knicks media relations coordinator Lori Hamamoto]: Hold on. 
Y'all want me to talk to the media.  I'm going to talk to the media  
Listen, no man can rise above .. the conditions of his people. Understand 
that? I am privileged and honored by the situation I am in.  No question, I 
have an excellent opportunity.  And this is a beautiful country, the best 
country, but it's not holy.  It's not righteous.  We talked about what's 
going on in Kosovo.  We talk about Algiers.  Well, what's going on here? 
Here's the NBA, full of blacks, great opportunities, they made beautiful 
strides.  But what's the sense of that .. when I go back to my neighborhood, 
I see the same thing.  Huh? I'm the only one who came out of my 
neighborhood.  Everybody I knew is either dead, on drugs, in jail or selling 
drugs.  So am I supposed to be honored and happy just because of my success? 
  Am I supposed to be honored, happy and whatever just because of my 
success or that brother's success? Well, yes, I am.  Still, I can't deny the 
fact of what has happened to (African-Americans) over years and years and 
years, and we're still at the bottom of the totem pole.  I can't turn my 
head to that.  
REPORTER: And that's your point? 
JOHNSON: That's my point.  Any more questions? 

SOUNDS OF PACIFICA

-- According to Pacifica 

[CTRL] Stupid Bills (Not ME!)

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

Some hayseed Louisana politician proposed this Bill.

 security4.ZIP


[CTRL] Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power(fwd)

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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-- Forwarded message --
Citation: Pacific Historical Review Feb 1996, v65, n1, p150(2)
Author:  Hardy, B. Carmon
 Title: The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power. (book reviews)
   reviewed by B. Carmon Hardy

COPYRIGHT American Historical Association, Pacific Coast Branch 1996
In this first volume of his long-anticipated study of the Mormon hierarchy,
Michael Quinn provides a detailed history of the beginning of Mormon patterns
of authority through 1844. The book contains an unmatched account of the
shifting, evolving conceptions of Mormon leadership (extending its analysis of
some issues to the present), and the influence of exigency on ecclesiastical
form. Employing the encyclopedic style characteristic of all his writings,
Quinn's narrative moves the reader to agreement with most of his conclusions
by dint of the enormous quantity of materials cited. Not only is the text
heavily documented, but every notation also amounts to a near-exhaustive
bibliographical essay. Nearly two-thirds of the book consists of such
references, of illustrations, seven appendices, and a twenty-four page index.
Quinn shows earliest Mormonism to have been more fluid and egalitarian than it
eventually became. The more centralized, sometimes secret array of councils
and quorums that existed by the time of Joseph Smith's death in 1844 was the
product not only of restorationist claims but also of conflict, revelation
and, occasionally, retrospective alterations of earlier documents. The license
taken by Mormon leaders in amending historical records to justify new policies
is one of the most disturbing discoveries in the book. Such activities were
congruent with what Quinn calls "theocratic ethics," the assumption that truth
can be sacrificed in behalf of a higher principle - a resort the hierarchy
employed in connection with subjects like the Danites (a protective and
sometimes avenging militia) and, of course, polygamy.
Other important contributions of the book include its evidence of the
extensive overlap of Mormon membership in organizations like the Missouri
Danites, Free Masonry, and the Council of Fifty with their common oaths of
secrecy and theocratic aspirations; the serious nature with which Smith
pursued his ultimately unsuccessful candidacy for the presidency of the United
States in 1844, involving diversion of church missionaries from religious to
political proselyting activities; and the compromised, ambiguous arguments
made by all claimants wishing to succeed the prophet. Quinn's exploration of
the crisis of leadership following Joseph Smith's assassination is the most
searching ever made - revealing, among other things, the possibility that one
of Smith's brothers, Samuel, may have been poisoned as a victim of the nasty
struggle among disputants. The author provides an excellent overview of events
involved in the emergence of Mormonism's two, best-known divisions: the
"Reorganized" branch which rallied around the prophet's son, Joseph Smith III,
and those who followed Brigham Young to the Great Basin.
While the work does not ignore polygamy, in my view it deserves yet more
attention as a reason for opposition to the prophet. Quinn gives the
impression that Smith's theocratic pretensions were the primary cause for
dissent from his leadership in Nauvoo. I would also like to have seen more
consideration given the intensely patriarchal formulations of Mormon control.
While modest, largely ritualistic gestures of female empowerment occurred,
Mormon leaders were, if anything, more devoted to masculine authority at home
and church than most Americans of the day. But these are differences of
emphasis only and, like the few errors that appear in the text (most notably
accreditation of the forged Jonathan Dunham document on page 373, note 193),
they in no way diminish the lustre of Quinn's achievement. No student of the
Mormon experience, including church officers responsible for preparing
descriptions of hierarchical lineage, can afford to ignore this impressive
account. It will remain a commanding source on the origin of Mormon authority
structures for years to come.
B. CARMON HARDY California State University, Fullerton

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[CTRL] Fw: [SC] Media Violence

1999-06-28 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: gene johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: SkeptiChat list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [SC] Media Violence

Ric Carter wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: gene johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: SkeptiChat list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 11:24 AM
 Subject: [SC] Media Violence

  # 'Scream' evidence barred from trial. (AP)  The boys were obsessed
  with the horror movie "Scream." They...moved to replicate killings
  in the 1996 Wes Craven film.
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560091104-244
 
  : Do violent media presentations make you want to kill? Do war movies
  incite wars?
 
  A brain center in the reptilian-similar or emotional brain becomes
  more sensitive to triggering the release of aggressive and defensive
  behavior, the more the organism is exposed to violence. The subject
  bilateral center, the amygdala ( almond-shaped ) is responsible for
  releasing reflexive and rapid aggressive behavior and can potentiate
  more complex, higher order behavior as well.  Since the amygdala
  system is sensitive to visual and auditory stimuli, violent multi-
  media cinematic presentations add to the conditioning and sensitiza-
  tion of this structure and lower the threshold for the release of
  violence behavior.
 
  Acting out of aggressive behavior patterns in 'play' is frequently
  seen in children who have been exposed to violent film and television
  presentations.  Pleasurable and reinforcing endo-opiates are released
  after violent episodes.  Extra passionate lovemaking by couples after
  an argument rides and enhances the endo-opiate pleasure waves.
 
  Ape-Angel

 Today I heard a report on the radio [I'll try to track it down in
 net news] that an extensive, long-term study shows that ALL youthful
 violence is related to: food allergies/sensitivities.  The leading
 foods correlated with youthful violence are wheat, corn, and: sugar.

Food allergies can release histamine, a neuromodulator which can have an
additive effect on activation of emotion-related brain centers and on brain
centers related to circuit switching ( thalamic nuclei ).  By these
mechanisms food allergies may have a secondary effect on violence.

Wheat provides a substrate for glutamate, an excitatory amino acid
transmitter in the brain. Sugar is converted to glucose, the primary
source of brain energy.  An overflow of glucose ( hyperglycemia ) can
lower firing thresholds of brain circuits, another additive, but secondary
effect that could be related to the release of violent behavior.

The release, targeting, and sustaining of  violent behavior is controlled
by many interacting factors.  There is no simple etiology or single cause.
For example, at a higher control level than the wet brain discussed above,
is the social modeling effect on the release of violence.  Monkey see
nasty, monkey do nasty.

 Hell, I was a hyper kid, and I was very violent, and I consumed all
 the sugar I could get hold of.  I'm not surprised by these findings
 at all.  The Western hemisphere was conquered by Europeans for the
 benefit of druglords, growing and transporting the most powerful of

 psychogens: coffee and cocoa [caffeine], tobacco [nicotine], and

These brain chemicals are activators and modulators.

 sugar cane and its byproduct rum [alcohol].

Sugar cane yields the primary brain food.

 Sugar is a substance of abuse, same as opiates, cocaine, alcohol,
 nicotine, gunpowder.

A high concentration of most any homeostatically controlled substance can
alter the set point of brain servo control systems and lead to addictive
behavior---related to intaking sufficient substance to match the distorted
hyped set point.

 The difference is, we ENCOURAGE our youth to
 abuse sugar - then we act surprised when, their growing bodies and
 minds over-amped by its effects,

Food product manufactures design many food products to have immediate,
rapid, and powerful effects on metabolism.  Rapid release of insulin is
reinforcing and leads to the release of serotonin, a calming
neuromodulator.  This pattern can distort the homeostatic glucostats in
the brain and glucoregulatory systems. A number of control set points are
distorted and that drives addictive behavior toward hi-sugar foods.  Salt
works in a similar fashion.

The short run and the immediate rules in sets of vicious circles:
Quarterly company balances, pressure for larger stock dividends,
moremore... secondary addictions...The  Reapers collect.  The Grim
Reaper waitsoverweight, diabetes, heart disease, stroke.And so
it goes..for a little longer.

Ape-Angel
  --

 they explode in violence, especially
 in a culture that's extolled and honored violence for so long.  Are
 violent behaviors triggered by media depictions of violence?  Well,
 maybe.  Does every person exposed to media 

Re: [CTRL] David Icke....The Greatest Secret.....AND FreeMasons

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37772cef7a7e.htm

http://no-more-secrets.net/masonic.html

http://no-more-secrets.net/murals.html

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index.html





- Original Message -
From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] David IckeThe Greatest
Secret.AND FreeMasons


| -Caveat Lector-
|
| It's not a secret.
|
| Most Masonic 'truths' are always placed under the noses of
uninitiated
|
| As my deceased grandfather (33rd degree Freemason) used to
say, non-Masons
| will never be able to figure out the real meaning of
Masonic symbolism.
| Not even members of the lower grades are privy to what the
craft is all
| about.
| Yet, everywhere, you can see the power and glory of the
brethren.
|
| Our country was, is, and will always be a masonic
stronghold.
|
| It's not a coincidence that Masons are still invited to
lay the
| cornerstones of most major government building projects.
(Take a look at
| the spooky New World Airport at Denver.)
|
| Freemasonry has not only played a role in shaping our
political
| institutions...it's crept into our language as well: "on
the level,"
| "square," etc.
|
| For an interesting look at masonic doings, read William
Still.  Although
| he has been faulted for an over-reliance on the work of
Eustace Mullins
| (alleged anti-semite).
|
| Better yet, read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.
|
|
| On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Daniel Holly wrote:
|
|   -Caveat Lector-
| 
|  http://www.reptoids.com/_discarticles/00ad.htm
| 
| 
| 
|  ***The creepy part about these gatherings is when
new
|  pieces of information fit PERFECTLY with that which we
|  already know.
| 
|  I went to the lecture on a lark. I love new information
and
|  unusual experiences. Mr. Icke is definitely
|  entertaining...the crowd was there from 1 pm to 10:30
that
|  night...with only a few breaks. And even then, most were
|  eating sandwiches while swamping Icke for more
individual
|  answers.
| 
|  Three things struck me specifically.
| 
|  1.] When he spoke of the evil these people are involved
in,
|  he specifically said, trust your own instincts. He
assured
|  us we had the equipment to detect the evil in the likes
of
|  Hillary and Bill.
| 
|  Mind you this audience looked like a high school PTA
|  meeting. Very suburban, very white, very middle class.
| 
|  THEN, HE DROPPED THE BOMBSHELL ON ME SPECIFICALLY. Ickes
|  said, "you want to see evil, look into the eyes of FEMA
|  director ---."[sorry, I can't remember the name].
But I
|  don't have to remember the name. I saw that Clinton
|  appointee on television after some natural disaster, and
was
|  stunned by my instinctive reaction to his image.
| 
|  I said to myself and whomever was with me--"That man is
|  evil. I don't even think he is human, he is so
evil...can't
|  you see it?" I couldn't look at the image...much the way
I
|  mute the television and turn the channel if I hear or
see
|  the clintons.
| 
|  2] When Ickes spoke of the reptilian worship and
symbolism,
|  by these groups, throughout history, I was struck again.
|  Last summer I took my daughter to Paris. We toured the
Loire
|  Valley castles, specifically le Chateaux Chenonceau,
|  Chambord, and Villandry.
| 
|  EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE, there were serpants,
and
|  even more salamanders. Francis I was obsessed with
|  salamanders...they were etched into stone on mantles,
|  ceilings, and flooring. SALAMANDERS! At the time, I
thought
|  it kooky, now I think it's spooky.
| 
|  3] Icke talked of their obsession with ritual, symbolism
and
|  astrological wheels, obilisks, and pentagrams. I thought
of
|  my visit to congress, two years ago...At the Senate
|  Judiciary hearings, I looked up at the ceilings and
wondered
|  why in the hell, in congress were there so many
astrological
|  wheels and signs of the zodiac. On the floor of
congress, on
|  the ceilings.
| 
|  Icke's slide show included aerial photos of Washington,
|  Paris, and London, the street designs and relationships
|  between statues and buildings. It was creepy...again
|  astrological wheels, obilisks, pentagrams.
| 
|  Then he names the architects and street designers...all
free
|  masons. Scoff if you like.,..the man answered more than
a
|  few of my questions and caused me to have many many
|  more***
| 
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|  screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!
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|  and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths,
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|  frauds is used politically  by different groups with
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|  spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That
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|  be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to
Holocaust 

Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #2

1999-06-28 Thread Cathy Laughlan

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# Mice help women stay fertile. (BBC) Researchers in Canada have developed
a
  technique which may enable women to have children at any age they choose.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_379000/379884.stm

First its human/bovine hybrids...  Now we are cross-breeding with mice.
What a conspiracy:  A world populated with Mouseketeers!

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Stratfor's Third Quarter Forecast

1999-06-28 Thread Jim

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Perhaps events in the Sub-Continent would bear watching for
clues to their ultimate designs. If not on the West then perhaps
on each other.

   Jim

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[CTRL] Uncle Sam has all your numbers

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers

  By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
  Washington Post Staff Writer
  Sunday, June 27, 1999+ADs- Page A1

  As part of a new and aggressive effort to track down
parents who owe child
  support, the federal government has created a vast
computerized data-monitoring
  system that includes all individuals with new jobs and the
names, addresses, Social
  Security numbers and wages of nearly every working adult
in the United States.

  Government agencies have long gathered personal
information for specific reasons,
  such as collecting taxes. But never before have federal
officials had the legal
  authority and technological ability to locate so many
Americans found to be
  delinquent parents +IBM- or such potential to keep tabs on
Americans accused of
  nothing.

  The system was established under a little-known part of
the law overhauling welfare
  three years ago. It calls for all employers to quickly
file reports on every person
  they hire and, quarterly, the wages of every worker.
States regularly must report all
  people seeking unemployment benefits and all child-support
cases.

  Starting next month, the system will reach further. Large
banks and other financial
  institutions will be obligated to search for data about
delinquent parents by name
  on behalf of the government, providing authorities with
details about bank
  accounts, money-market mutual funds and other holdings of
those parents. State
  officials, meanwhile, have sharply expanded the use of
Social Security numbers.
  Congress ordered the officials to obtain the nine-digit
numbers when issuing
  licenses +IBM- such as drivers', doctors' and outdoorsmen's +IBM-
in order to revoke the
  licenses of delinquents.

  Enforcement officials say the coupling of computer
technology with details about
  individuals' employment and financial holdings will give
them an unparalleled ability
  to identify and locate parents who owe child support and,
when necessary,
  withhold money from their paychecks or freeze their
financial assets.

  +ACI-They never get away from us anymore. It's just wonderful.
. . . What you're trying
  to do in child support is build a box, four walls, around
a person,+ACI- said Brian Shea,
  the acting executive director of child-support enforcement
in Maryland. +ACI-It has in
  some ways revolutionized this business.+ACI-

  But privacy experts and civil libertarians say the scope
of the effort raises new
  questions about the proper line between aggressive public
policy and intrusive
  government snooping. In pursuing an objective that is
almost universally
  applauded, the government has also created something that
many Americans have
  staunchly opposed: a vast pool of fresh personal
information that could be used in
  a variety of ways to monitor their lives.

  +ACI-What you have here is a compilation of information that
is much better and more
  current than any other data system in the U.S.,+ACI- said
Robert Gellman, a lawyer and
  privacy specialist in the District. +ACI-All of the sudden
we're on the verge of creating
  the Holy Grail of data collection, a central file on every
American.+ACI-

  Already lawmakers, federal agencies and the White House
have considered
  expanding the permitted aims of the system to include
cutting down on fraud by
  government contractors, improving the efficiency of the
government and
  pinpointing debtors, such as students who default on
government loans.

  Under the system, every employer must send information
about new hires and
  quarterly wages to state child-support agencies. State
officials gather the data,
  along with information on unemployment benefits and
child-support cases, and
  then ship it to computers run by the Administration for
Children and Families. ACF
  officials then use computers to sort and send back to
state authorities reports about
  people obligated to pay child support.

  Government officials say the system is safe, accurate and
discreet. They also say it
  is secure. Because it has, among other safeguards, systems
that confirm the
  accuracy of 

Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

 -Caveat Lector-

 Just trying out a hypothesis ...  Anyone care to raise counter-arguments
 (contesting any of the assumptions given above in "logical" sequence),
 provide us with more detail about Tesla's "propulsion" and "vehicle"
patents,
 or modify anything in this hypothesis?

Interesting theory.  However, people should read Jacques Vallee's
*Dimensions*,  Keith Thompson's *Angels and Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic
Imagination*, and Patrick Harpur's *Daimonic Reality*, which basically
all point out that, whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a
*long* time.

Kelly

Care to suggest that Tesla initiated the first 'human UFO',
given that the Hindu Vimanas x000bc and reverend kirk in 1697ad
in scotland suggest a long history ?

Andrew Hennessey


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Re: [CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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At 07:48 AM 6/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: Peter L. Sroufe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time,
 but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then - and
 back to its beginnings in 1919 - was bankrolled by the Kremlin.

And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all
speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players,
eh?  Comrades Reagan,

No! No! No!  Reagan was a detached, amiable, old doofuss.  He didn't know
what was going on!  Stick to the party line, comrade.

Greenspan and Gates were perfect 'plants', eh?

Greenspan: a Jew was the ultimate plant.  There is no "inside" information more
"inside" than what Greenspan knows.  The linchpin of the "Federal Reserve"
money cartel.

Gates: an innocent but cagey techno-geek who got too rich too quickly for the
comfort of the globalist elite.  Rubin (Jew, Globalist)  and Cantor (Jew,
Globalist)
ordered President Penis to dispatch Janet Reno (dim but servile female
token)  and
Department of  Justice anti-trust  goons to crush his ribs.

Comrades Jobs, Gingrich and Bush might not have done so well, but they
were even less obvious in their "deep-cover" positions, eh?  Ya sure.


Comrade Jobs ((Jew, greedbag) was recently observed "entertaining" the
Rent-A-President
at his California mansion, and plying him with "campaign donations"
undoubtedly with the desire to see another of computer industry rival
Gates' ribs crushed, or perhaps a kneecap broken.

"Comrade" Gingrich: an articulate and charismatic threat to the regime who
had to be discredited and disposed of.  He was.

"Comrade Bush": a clueless Yankee, who didn't realize
when he said "new world order" that there really was a "New World Order"
and that he was expected to be working in its behalf.  NWO realized he
didn't have his heart in their game when he looked at his watch during
debate with Clinton.


And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all
speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players,
eh?

After the Democratic Convention of 1980, Teddy Kennedy and his retinue
did in fact drive to the hospital room of the dying socialist icon Michael
Harrington, join hands, and sing the Internationale.

The Kremlin, the Berlin Wall, and the Kremlin-backed CPUSA went out of
business only because the goals of Communism had succeeded.

America had become a one-party system (with a "Blue" and a "Gold" crew
just like a nuclear submarine), with a controlled press, socialized retirement,
a government monopoly on primary and secondary education, a radicalized
tenured establishment in the universities, bureacratic control of all business
activities, greatly diminished property rights largely through
"environmental regulation",
a confiscatory tax system, and an elitist  nomenklatura just like the Soviet
Union.


The Cold War ended because the Commies won.

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[CTRL] U.K. Wants ISPs To Build In Interception

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Technology News





  U.K. Wants ISPs To Build In Interception
  (06/25/99, 3:40 p.m. ET)
  By Duncan Campbell, TechWeb

  The British government has become the first in Europe
to
  openly propose internationally agreed requirements for
ISPs
  to build technology into networks that would allow for
police
  surveillance.

  Under proposals for changes to the Interception of
  Communications Act announced by the Home Office this
  week, all communications service providers (CSPs)
would be
  required to build interception software or hardware
into their
  systems.

  The law -- if passed -- will apply to all types of new
  communications services, including Internet telephony,
TV
  conferencing, paging, and satellite based personal
  communications systems.

  The International User Requirements have been drawn up
over
  the past six years by a group founded by the U.S. FBI,
called
  the International Law Enforcement Telecommunications
  Seminar (ILETS), which meets in secret. The group
excludes
  representatives from industry or civil rights
organizations, and
  has attempted to standardize its objectives as an
International
  Telecommunication Union requirement.

  According to this week's "white paper," every type of
network
  will be covered, including VPNsoperated through the
  Internet or other TCP/IP systems. The new law will
also cover
  interception of business telecom services, ranging
from basic
  networks of a few lines found within a small office to
large
  networks linking offices, in both the public and
private sectors,
  the document says.

  Under the present British Interception of
Communications Act,
  only licensed public telecom operators have to provide
  government tapping facilities within their networks.
However,
  ISPs must surrender any stored communications data
they
  have, including e-mail, Web-access records, and
service
  details, if served with an order.

  Home Secretary Jack Straw now proposes all CSPs be
required
  to take reasonable steps to ensure their system is
capable of
  being intercepted.

  "This will be an ongoing requirement CSPs will have to
  consider each time they develop their network or
introduce
  new services," Straw said. "CSPs will also be required
to
  provide reasonable assistance to effect warranted
intercepts."

  This will include real-time access to data about their
  subscribers and information about services they have
used,
  including logs of telephone calls, e-mail, or website
accesses.
  A key part of technical arrangements to be made will
ensure
  operators will not be able to know what information
has been
  copied from their systems.

  The British government said the new law would make
full
  provision for human-rights legislation, Straw said.

  But according to Madeleine Colvin of Justice, the
international
  human-rights organization and British section of the
  International Commission of Jurists, the proposed law
would
  not achieve this.

  "There are major gaps in what these proposals suggest
for
  controlling surveillance methods. For example, how is
anyone
  to know if their human rights may have been abused if
they are
  never going to be told that their e-mail has been
intercepted by
  the government?" he asked.





  Related Stories:



  Europe Votes For ISP Spying Infrastructure

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[CTRL] conscience on campus (fwd)

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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-- Forwarded message 
  Citation: The Progressive Dec 1998, 11(1)
Author:  Ehrenreich, Barbara
 Title: Conscience on Campus.(criticism of Berkeley student
   David Cash) by Barbara Ehrenreich

COPYRIGHT 1998 Progressive Inc.
  At last, Berkeley students have found an issue compelling enough to wake
them from their torpor: sophomore David Cash, the moral reprobate who
witnessed his friend threaten and commence to molest a seven-year-old girl,
Sherrice Iverson, in the stall of a women's restroom in Nevada. Cash simply
walked away, tactfully giving his friend a little privacy. The perpetrator,
Jeremy Strohmeyer, who was convicted of sexually assaulting Sherrice and then
drowning her in the toilet, is now behind bars for life, while Cash is free to
pursue his studies of--god help us, nuclear engineering--on the Berkeley
campus.
  Cash reportedly boasted last summer that his new-found notoriety as
Strohmeyer's pal had boosted his ability to score with women. But most
Berkeley students, understandably enough, do not want to risk using the same
dining hall utensils or handling the same reserve books that may have
encountered David Cash's noxious touch. They want him expelled, and since the
administration refuses to do so on the grounds that Cash, technically
speaking, has committed no crime, they want him shunned.
  "Do not sit near him in the dining hall or in class. Refuse to be his
roommate or his lab partner. If he talks to you do not hear him," urges one
first-year student in the Daily Cal. Fearing vigilante attacks, the
administration has assigned a security guard to Cash, and students are
complaining about this, too, as if the guard's wages were already showing up
on their tuition bills.
  So what do you do: salute the sensitivities of today's Berkeley students or
bemoan the fact that their target is, in the scheme of things, so tiny?
  Affirmative action, for example, which was banned by California's
Proposition 209 two years ago, rates only a fraction of the emotional
intensity surrounding Cash. There were two days of pro-affirmative action
protests in October, but they were organized by U.C. faculty members and
generated only a lukewarm response from the now overwhelmingly white and Asian
American student body.
  It may be that, at some subconscious level, Cash is a coded way of taking up
the race debate that Prop. 209 so rudely ended. He is white, as is Strohmeyer,
while Sherrice Iverson was black as well as poor. What the state seems to be
saying, through its university system, is that it will in no way bestir itself
to educate black kids but doesn't mind nurturing the kind of people who so
lightheartedly assent to their murders.
  Sherrice Iverson, if she had lived so long, might very likely have been
rejected by U.C.-Berkeley, while Cash, who may bear some responsibility for
the fact that she will never grow up to college age, studies on in what is
called good standing. No one among the anti-Cash enrages, however, is arguing
that the Sherrices of this world should be allowed to matriculate--just that
they shouldn't be flushed away at such an early age.
  But there's more to Cash-bashing than a displaced debate about affirmative
action. What, after all, is his crime? He did not kill; he only turned away
from the killing site, and this is something we almost all do every day,
whether that site is Rwanda or Kosovo or the overworked gas chambers of our
own nation. As Cash explained, "I do not know this little girl. I do not know
starving children in Panama. I do not know people who are dying of disease in
Egypt." Moral responsibility, in other words, extends no further than a few
close drinking friends.
  Similarly, the students at Berkeley this semester have neglected to protest
welfare reform, the severe mistreatment of environmental activists in Northern
California, or Clinton's compulsive waggings of the dog. A conference on
incarceration, held on a September weekend and featuring Angela Davis and
other luminaries of the California left, brought a temporary influx of black
faces to the campus but barely roused any students from their dorms, and those
who were around walked by the outdoor guerrilla theater performances with the
same studied coolness usually bestowed on ragged nutcases waving Bibles. If
students find Cash hateful, it may in part be because he embodies what is most
hateful in themselves.
  It's not entirely the students' fault. The campus almost seems to be
designed, geographically, to inculcate moral isolationism. Walk from Sproul
Plaza, where antiwar protesters once massed before marches, out toward the
burrito-and-sprouts joints of Telegraph Avenue, and you run a gauntlet of
outstretched hands and Styrofoam cups, The beggars are so numerous and, in
some cases, so patently undeserving--skinheads and Goth kids demanding beer
money--that after a 

[CTRL] FW: ACLU ACLU Action Update -- Congress Attacks Reproductive Rights!

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 5:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ACLU ACLU Action Update -- Congress Attacks Reproductive
Rights!


TO:  ACLU Action Network
FR:  Bob Kearney, ACLU Field Director
DT: June 28, 1999

The culture wars continue. After several attacks on the First Amendment,
the House of Representatives is set this week to launch an assault on a
woman’s right to choose.  This Wednesday, June 30th, the full House is
scheduled to vote on HR 1218, a bill that we call the "Teen Endangerment
Act."

This legislation would allow for the prosecution of anyone other than a
parent -- including a grandmother, aunt or older sister -- who transports a
minor across state lines for an abortion, unless the young woman has
already met the obligations of her state's parental involvement law.

Instead of helping young women deal with the difficult circumstances of an
unintended pregnancy, this bill would deny already vulnerable minors the
assistance of trusted adults, endangering their health and violate their
constitutional rights.

TAKE ACTION! Send a FREE FAX to your representative urging them to oppose
this dangerous attack on reproductive rights, and read more about the
dangers of this legislation, online at:

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[CTRL] Rule Britannia: free trade and dope (fwd)

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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-- Forwarded message --

  Citation: Monthly Review Oct 1997, v49, n5, p35(8)
Author:  Newsinger, John
 Title: Britain's opium wars. (fact and myth about the opium
   trade in  East) by John Newsinger

COPYRIGHT 1997 Monthly Review
It is a little known fact that during the reign of Queen Victoria, the British
capitalist state was the largest drug pusher the world has ever seen. The
smuggling of opium into China was by the 1830s a source of huge profits,
played a crucial role in the financing of British rule in India and was the
underpinning of British trade throughout the East. This is one of those little
historical details that are often overlooked in the history books where the
opium trade is either played down or ignored altogether. Most recently
Professor Denis Judd's Empire, a 500-page history of British Imperialism has
no discussion of either the trade or the wars it occasioned, while the
prestigious Cambridge Illustrated History of the British Empire has a couple
of brief inadequate and uninformative paragraphs, a mere passing mention.(1)
The opium trade deserves more attention. It was, in the words of John K.
Fairbanks, "the most long-continued and systematic international crime of
modern times."(2)
The production of opium in India first came under British control in the
course of the eighteenth century. In the 1760s, some one thousand chests of
opium (each weighing 140 lbs) were smuggled into China and this figure
gradually increased to 4 thousand chests in 1800. By the 1820s the traffic in
opium began to increase dramatically with over 12 thousand chests being
smuggled into China in 1824, rising to 19 thousand in 1830, 30 thousand in
1835 and to 40 thousand chests (2,500 tons of opium) in 1838.(3) The British
energetically encouraged poppy growing, on occasion coercing Indian peasant
farmers into going over the crop. By the end of the 1830s the opium trade was
already, and was to remain, "the world's most valuable single commodity trade
of the nineteenth century."(4)
The opium trade was of vital importance to British Imperialism at this time.
It was one corner of an Eastern triangular trade that mirrored the eighteenth
century Atlantic slave trade. The smuggling of opium turned a large British
trading deficit with China into a substantial surplus, paying for British tea
imports from China, for the export of British manufactured goods to India and
for a substantial proportion of British administrative costs in India. The
opium trade was "the hub of British commerce in the East."(5)
By the end of the 1830s a sixth of British overseas trade was with China and
nearly two-thirds of that trade was in opium. In view of the tremendous
importance of the trade, its neglect by economic historians and the historians
of the British Empire is all the more surprising.
The Opium Capitalists
The opium trade was clearly not a small-scale affair carried out by small-time
crooks and gangsters. Instead, it was a massive international commerce carried
out by major British trading companies under the armed protection of the
British state. According to Sir William Jardine of Jardine Matheson, the opium
trade was "the safest and most gentlemanlike speculation I am aware of." In a
good year profits could be as high as $1,000 a chest](6) His wealth was
sufficient to buy him a seat in the House of Commons in the early 1840s and to
get him the ear of the government.
Jardine Matheson was the most successful of the opium smuggling companies, and
is still a major financial and trading company today. Jardine's partner in the
enterprise, James Matheson, best shows the use to which the profits from drug
pushing could be put. In the 1840s he too became an MP, sitting in the Commons
for twenty-five years. He went on to become a governor of the Bank of England,
chairman of the great P and O shipping line, and the second largest landowner
in Britain. He bought the Isle of Lewis in Scotland and spent over  pounds
500,000 building himself a castle there]
The import of opium into China was, of course, illegal, but the British
companies engaged in the trade systematically corrupted or intimidated the
Chinese authorities so that it continued with little interruption. Depot ships
were anchored off the coast, selling the drug to Chinese smugglers who carried
it ashore for distribution. By the 1830s, the scale of the problem forced the
Chinese government to respond: the country was being drained of silver to pay
for the opium, its administration was being corrupted by foreigners and the
extent of addiction (estimates of the number of addicts go as high as 12
million) was seen as a threat to both state and society. In March 1839, the
Emperor sent a special Commissioner, Lin Tse-Hsu to Canton to stamp out the
trade once and for all.
Lin confined the British merchants in Canton to the European Factories,

Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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In a message dated 6/28/99 7:44:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  (8) Had Nicola Tesla's theories regarding unique electromagnetic media of
   propulsion, first appearing around the same time, been taken seriously
   (outside the US) and been PRIVATELY funded, by parties unknown, a
 generation
   of hypothetical SECRET RD by the Continent's best minds would bring us
to
   1947 -- the first observed "flying saucer" ...
  
   Given Tesla technology, almost "magic" itself, who really needs
   "extraterrestrials"?
  
   Just trying out a hypothesis ...  Anyone care to raise counter-arguments
   (contesting any of the assumptions given above in "logical" sequence),
   provide us with more detail about Tesla's "propulsion" and "vehicle"
 patents,
   or modify anything in this hypothesis?

  Interesting theory.  However, people should read Jacques Vallee's
  *Dimensions*,  Keith Thompson's *Angels and Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic
  Imagination*, and Patrick Harpur's *Daimonic Reality*, which basically
  all point out that, whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a
  *long* time.

  Kelly


I think we are talking about the "modern" wave, the saucers and discs of this
century, differ in some ways from older craft observed in the past.  I think
the hypothesis is a good one to explain the REAL, nuts and bolts things that
fly in the sky of the late 20th century.  Additionally one must state that
Renato Vesco in his work on German UFO's of the second world war stated that
much of that information went to the British!  And that they had facilities
in Canada to develop the tech, and that is why some of the earliest sightings
of UFO's (modern ones, after W.W.II) were in the Pacific northwest (Maury
Island, and Kenneth Arnold in the mountains of Washington State are a couple
of examples).  Yes, there were UFO's throughout history but there is a
distinction IMO between those and what we have today, at least partly.  The
phenomenon which created UFO's in the past probably still accounts for some
activity today as well, but we have other things in the sky as well.  The
phenomenon which created UFO's in the past may THEMSELVES be of a
technological nature (i.e., nuts and bolts craft), remnants of a past EARTH
civilization, no aliens necessary.  These craft found hidden, or built using
ancient plans (remember the Mahabarata, and the supposed war that Atlantis
fought, and the air chariots of old that Kings and warriors rode in).
All are avenues of exploration.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Tesla Invented the UFO

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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In a message dated 6/28/99 10:39:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 whatever UFOs are, they have been with us for a*long* time.

  Why should there be a single explanation of what UFOs are? It seems to me
  that the odds are overwhelming that some UFOs are one kind of thing and
  other UFOs are something else. While I'm hesitant to dismiss out of hand
  an extra-terrestrial and/or "inter-dimensional" origin for some UFO, I am
  extremely skeptical. Occam's Razor dictates that we should consentrate our
  study on the hypothesis that they are of terrestrial origin, flown in
  secret by both governments and non governmental enterprises and
  organizations. Some are prototypes of new technology being flown in tests.
  Others we should be consider as part of a massive psy-op. The mass,
  instant pycho-social effects of Orson Welles's "War of the Worlds" was not
  lost on the power that be. Eleven months later Goebbles went on the radio
  and told the German people that the Fatherland had been invaded, not by
  Martians but (even more plausably) by Poles. The Germans fell for it hook,
  line and sinker. So if the "benevelent space brothers" land and proclaim
  they are here to help save us from ourselves and by the way meet their
  official (Nordic looking?) human representatives who will speak for them
  and should be obeyed, when they head back up the ramp to their saucer,
  check for a zipper up their back. They're probably not aliens; they're
  probably aryans, putting one over on us again.


Excellent commentary, that exactly follows my own reasoning on the matter.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Grassrootsreform

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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The political process within the States party to the constitution of the United
States for the United States of America is apparently rife with corruption, and
downright misdirection of facts.

Within the this State, the State of Maryland, elections appear to be
ceremonial.  The entrenched political machine known as a Social Democracy
controls this process through the administrative tribunals.  These legislative
tribunals provide legitimacy to apparent illicit acts of restricting the
franchise within the exterior boundaries of Maryland to aliens with permanent
lawful residence.

Read the perjury oath on the “voter registration card.”   Then define the
citizen of the United States in Title 5, section 552, definitions.

This State, the State of Maryland, has erected barriers to secure the monopoly
of the political process.  Penetration of these Barriers is improbable due to
the failure of the people to understand the process of administrative remedy.
The people of Maryland have been induced through a corrupted process to
compulsory acceptance of an alien and foreign jurisdiction.

No political party can “reform” an entrenched corrupted system that boldly
holds what appear to be corrupted elections.  This fact appears to have been
proven in the Courtroom of William J. Theime in Arundel County in January of
1995.  When the plaintiff proved that over six thousand votes were fraudulent,
the Administrative officer of the Legislative tribunal pronounced that this was
not enough to overturn the “ten thousand” win vote margin.

The people of Maryland were put on notice that this State, the State of
Maryland apparently has made corruption of the electoral process “legitimate”
upon its face.

The People of Maryland have one way to assert their unalienable rights.   The
First Article of the Maryland Declaration of Rights, states unequivocally that
the People of Maryland can terminate any system of governance within Maryland
as they deem expedient.

Unfortunately the system known as this State, controls the public and parochial
schools, where the foundations of the Republic are lost in the double speak of
the Social Democracy.

This State, operating within the exterior boundaries of Maryland, is fiction of
law, defined as the District of Columbia.   The Administrators of this State,
are under contract to the United States.  These officers of the public Trust
have apparently, willingly, knowingly, and intentionally pillaged the assets,
of Marylanders for the public profit of this State.

This State, within the exterior boundaries of Maryland, controls over 53
billion dollars of liquid and hard assets.  As of June, 30th, 1998, this State
had profits for one fiscal year of over five billion dollars.  Yet this State
has the third highest tax burden in America.

The people of Maryland appear to be held in abeyance by an apparent concerted
action of Federally Licensed voice, and video media.  The Los Angeles Time News
Mirror Syndicate controls the major print media, which apparently propagates
the political correct view of the Social Democracy.
History has proven that all systems of despotic tyranny will consume themselves
and their arrogant supporters.  The people of Maryland were amongst the first
people of America to historically  fight for liberty.   It was a contingent of
Marylanders fighting under the Command of General George Washington on Long
Island, that held the defensive line during the battle of Long Island which
allowed the American Army to regroup and escape defeat at the hands of the
British.   Marylanders were celebrated as the “old line state.”

It was during the Second civil war in America when Maryland was brutally
occupied by the Army of the Potomac.  As of April in that year, 1861,  Maryland
ceased to exist as an independent and Sovereign State and fell to the
occupation enforced by a force of arms of the United States, now operating as
the Federal Corporation, United States Code, Title 28, section 3002, paragraph
15(a).

Remedy within the political process can occur here in Maryland, but only when
the people of Maryland comprehend that the People are the origin of all lawful,
and sovereign authority.

The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance

"In a age of universal deceit, telling
the truth is a revolutionary act."

George Orwell
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 From: ROBERT K PAVLICK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Grassrootsreform
 Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 11:10 PM

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[CTRL] Freedom.org [**a MUST BOOKMARK**]

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

  A politician is like an elephant - he has a thick skin, a head full of
ivory, and as everyone who has seen a circus parade knows, he proceeds best
by grasping the tail of his predecessor.

Global taxation gaining momentum

 http://www.freedom.org/



Comparison of Republican Candidates on the Issues:
http://www.gopatgo.org/000-p-record.html

Reform Party
Phone (972) 450-8800 Fax (972) 450-8821
Tax Plan:
http://www.reformparty.org/principles/platform1997/tax-reform.html
http://www.reformparty.org/

Bob Smith for President
Tax Plan:  http://www.smithforpresident.org/issues.htm
http://www.smithforpresident.org/

United States Taxpayers Party
1-800-2 VETO-IRS
Tax Plan:  http://www.ustaxpayers.org/ustp-96p.html#Taxes
http://www.ustaxpayers.org/

Patrick J. Buchanan
Tax Plan:  http://www.gopatgo.org/000-c-taxes.html
http://www.gopatgo.org/

Alan Keyes
Tax Plan:  http://keyes2000.org/issues/taxandspend.html
http://keyes2000.org

The Constitution Party
Tax Plan:  http://www.constitution.net/policys/tax.htm
http://www.constitution.net/

The Draft Jesse Ventura
for President Committee
Tax Plan (developing):
http://news.mpr.org/features/199808/05_mccalluml_venturatax/index.shtml
http://www.presidentventura.com/

The Libertarian Party
Tax Plan:  Select "Text Files" on the Left.
http://harrybrowne2000.org/

Steve Forbes
Tax Plan:
http://www.forbes2000.com/hq/policy_agenda/economic_security.html#flattax
http://www.forbes2000.com/

THIRD PARTIES
http://www.ccnet.com/~suntzu75/thirds.htm



Bard

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Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

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[CTRL] Socialism in America [the enemy within]

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous

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Socialism in America is alive, well, and growing. Aided by such influential
Congressmen as John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judicial Committee,
David Bonior, the pit-bull-dog who successfully whipped Newt, Maxine Waters,
the President's outspoken defender in the impeachment debates, and nearly
fifty Representatives, socialism is advancing in America behind the
"Progressive" label. Here are a few excerpts taken directly from the web
page of the Democratic Socialists of America.
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html


http://sovereignty.net/


Bard

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Powell on Letterman [6/28]]

1999-06-28 Thread Anonymous





"I'm sure the people of Arkansas will make a fine choice."

---retired General Colin Powell, on the David Letterman Show [6/28], in
response to Letterman's mention of rumors re a possible WJC run for Senate
in Ark. [Note: Of course, based on Powell's tone and look, the General was
implying that there's no way in heck that WJC will get elected as Senator in
Ark.]


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Re: [CTRL] NO MANDATE: To vote or not to vote in 2000.

1999-06-28 Thread lfaith

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As far as 'voting' goes, this is another cute idea who's time has come and
gone- it used to work, but now it works against us. It's a kind of mantra
with which we like to convince ourselves: "If only we vote for our guy!" "If
only I campaign for my guy/gal..." "If only I give more $..." "If only we
reform the voting laws..." It goes on and on and sadly it doesn't ever quite
add up. Some of us are realizing that this system of voting isn't working,
but we don't know why. We have no idea that by 'voting' we help to keep the
facade of 'democracy' going, and playing into their hands!

For the REAL info on voting- go to www.networkamerica.org. A few minutes of
reading will 'blow your mind!' Voting will never be the same, and things
will fall into place. It is the one piece of puzzle for which you've been
searching for a lonnnggg time!! It's a link connecting past and present.
You'll see

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ELECTION 2000
NO MANDATE !
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DON'T VOTE ! IT JUST ENCOURAGES THEM.

   The accumulation of wealth brings with it an accumulation of power and
influence disproportional to the actual numbers of wealthy groups, and
individuals existing in a society.
   1) I believe there is a way to break the hold of big money on the
Presidency, and other major political positions at the national governmental
level. This can be achieved by modifying our views on how to utilize the
electoral process to recapture and strengthen the limited democracy we had.
Whatever power voters had was stolen from the American people by U.S. and
foreign moneyed interests.
   2) Nullifying political bribery by the Duopoly can be accomplished in a
non-violent manner, and DOES NOT REQUIRE ACTIVE COOPERATION AMONG
GROUPS WITH DIFFERING IDEOLOGIES.

   Please consider the following: The diversity and size of the U.S. plays
right into the hands of the ruling class and their institutions. It's easy
to
keep a society like this divided along natural fault lines. Class, race,
religion, gender, sexual preference, occupation, philosophical outlook,
regionalism, and multiculturalism, are some reasons that truly mass
movements
are almost impossible to organize in this country. The obvious exceptions
are
war, and disaster.
   Though there are more people getting involved in grass roots politics,
they are organizing around narrow interests. I'm not belittling those
interests. I'm simply saying that the mass power of the public is not being
focused on the weak points in the system. Those are, the ability to
effect change through voting ( or not voting ), spending ( or not
spending ),
and paying taxes ( or withholding your taxes ).

   The problem with voting, is that those who have stolen the democratic
process, present us with the option of picking any one of THEIR candidates
that we like. The process of running for any national office, is actually a
filtering process that "BOTH" parties use to insure that only those
acceptable to the ruling class will be presented to us for rubber stamping.
Thus, they have taken the choice out of our choosing process. Most people
now
realize that something is very wrong here, and are quite angry about it.
This
is not democracy.
   ["Don't cling to a political party that has been converted to
neo-conservatism. [[ Like Clinton/Gore's " New Dems," or " New Labor " in
Britain,
or " Third Way " Socialists. - J2 ]] Once the party has been taken over,
maintaining
solidarity on the outside while seeking change from within merely gives them
more
time. When the spirit of the party is dead, shed the old skin and create
something
new".
   - TIPS ON HOW TO OPPOSE CORPORATE RULE -
   from the book " Economic Fundamentalism " by Dr Jane Kelsey, U of
Auckland, NZ ]

   Because he was elected with only 43% of the vote (1992- in a three way
race ),
Clinton was perceived as being politically weak, and forced to compromise
more than he really wanted to. Of course that didn't extend to pro business
issues like NAFTA and GATT and Fast Track.
   Reagan, on the other hand was perceived as having won by a "landslide",
and
had a strong mandate to do anything he wished, while the press cowered
before
the will of the people. Consequently, he became the " teflon " president.
( Referring of course, to the substance between his ears.)
   The point is, the importance of the perception of popular support.
Imagine
a President elected by only 35% or less. How difficult might it be for such
an unpopular elected official to raise taxes, cut social programs, get us
into an oil war, or turn our national forces over to the institutions of
World
Federalism like NATO and the U.N., when so few would have 

[CTRL] WHO Urges Developing Nations to Battle Infectious Diseases

1999-06-28 Thread Carl Amedio

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 WHO Urges Developing Nations to Battle Infectious Diseases


 The World Health Organization (WHO) has offered cost-effective priorities
for developing countries to battle the spread of infectious diseases. These
include drugs to treat AIDS that may be too expensive for many developing
countries. But just $14 for a year's supply of condoms could prevent
infection in the first place. An insecticide-soaked net for the bed to
protect people from malaria- bearing mosquitoes costs $10; 26 cents buys a
dose of measles vaccine; 33 three cents buys oral rehydration salts that can
save a child dying from severe diarrhea and 27 cents buys five days of
antibiotics for pneumonia. One problem is raising the money. The World Health
Organization's $208 million budget is still $50 million short. The report
aims to convince governments of developing countries that illness causes
poverty just as much as poverty causes illness, so that national policies
reflect sound health recommendations.

Lauren Neergaard, The Associated Press "WHO urges effort to battle disease in
developing nations" as published in The Seattle Times, June 18, 1999, C7

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[CTRL] Does anyone have the web address to The Australian?

1999-06-28 Thread Bill Richer

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Re: [CTRL] SKEPTICS Re: [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #2

1999-06-28 Thread Ric Carter

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 # Mice help women stay fertile. (BBC) Researchers in Canada have
  developed a technique which may enable women to have children at
  any age they choose.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_379000/379884.stm
 
 First its human/bovine hybrids...  Now we are cross-breeding with mice.
 What a conspiracy:  A world populated with Mouseketeers!

Well, the young Annette *was* pretty hot.  But would human women rather
be thought of as foxy, mousey, ratty, or cows?  And remember that Disney
was part of the old anti-Red conspiracy - so those Mousekateers couldn't
even express socialist tendencies without being thrown to HUAC.  Things
may have improved slightly - there are even GLBT Mousekateers now.  But
I digress.  Would it have been better if the fertility advancements had
involved chickens, goats, dogs, other lab animals?  Are mice downtrodden?

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[CTRL] (Fwd) Gore and AIDS Drugs

1999-06-28 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Monday, June 28, 1999

GORE AND AIDS DRUGS

Vice President Gore's role in setting policies for AIDS drugs in
countries
such as South Africa has become a simmering issue. These
analysts are
available to explain why:

ROBERT WEISSMAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.corporatepredators.org
Co-director of the Essential Action organization founded by Ralph Nader
and co-author of "Corporate Predators," Weissman said: "Africa is
suffering from an AIDS epidemic that U.S. Surgeon General David Satcher
equates with the plague that decimated Europe in the 14th century. But
while treatments are available to enable many people with HIV/AIDS to live
relatively normal lives, the pharmaceutical industry has priced them out
of reach. When countries like South Africa seek to undertake to lower the
cost of essential medicines for HIV/AIDS, the U.S. government shamefully
bullies them, threatening them with trade and other sanctions. Gore has
played a leading role in carrying out this unconscionable policy. It is
time he reversed himself and U.S. government policy, so that people's
health needs triumph over industry greed."

JULIE DAVIDS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A member of ACT UP Philadelphia, where Gore will be fundraising today,
Davids said: "Al Gore has played a pivotal role in threatening trade
sanctions against South Africa for their 1997 law which permits the
generic manufacture of AIDS drugs, even though such a law is allowed by
trade agreements that the U.S. has signed. The pharmaceutical companies
oppose this law not because they would lose any money directly -- they
can't sell significant amounts of AIDS drugs in South Africa at the prices
they are charging -- but because they don't want people in the U.S. and
other wealthy nations to realize that these drugs cost pennies to make."

PETER LURIE, M.D., [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.citizen.org/hrg
A medical researcher with Public Citizen's Health Research Group, Dr.
Lurie (who has conducted research on AIDS in South Africa, where he is
from) said: "Right now, HIV is spreading in South Africa at a rate about
as high as anywhere in the world. For the U.S. government to prevent the
South Africans from using a perfectly legal mechanism for addressing this
terrible epidemic is unconscionable."

ELLEN MILLER, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.publicampaign.org
Executive director of Public Campaign, Miller said: "Why is Al Gore
leading the Clinton administration's efforts to prevent Third World
countries like South Africa from producing or buying affordable generic
versions of critically needed AIDS drugs? The answer: there's literally
millions of dollars in hard and soft money contributions to be had by
serving the interests of the pharmaceutical industry. The Gore campaign is
well-positioned to reap a bumper crop of pharmaceutical cash."

For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167




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