Re: [CTRL] GWBush sucks up to Anti-American radical leftists

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 07/16/1999 8:49:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 The Republican primary frontrunner and open immigration advocate says he'll
 sign a bill approved by the state legislature to designate March 31st next
 year as "Cesar Chavez Day." 

Well if the United Farm Workers and the long dead Cesar Chavez are the worst
thing we have to worry about with another Bush heading for the White House,
we are in less danger than I imagined.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Fwd: July 19 column -- patients' rights

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED JULY 19, 1999
THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
A politial circus


Reflecting their standard dedication to thoughtful and informed debate,
both Democrats and Republicans staged news conferences and pep rallies on
Capitol Hill last week, dragging lab-coated professionals and the grieving
parents of dead children onstage to help promote their own (while
demonizing their opponents') versions of a national "Patients' Bill of
Rights."

  President Clinton reinforced the circumspect atmosphere by promising to
veto the GOP version once it reaches his desk (Republicans passed their
version Thursday), thundering that the stingy GOP plan "covers too few
people, provides insufficient patient protections, and contains inadequate
enforcement provisions."

  At issue were the Democrats' demands that these new "consumer
protections" -- including a guarantee of emergency room services and
increased access to specialists -- be extended to 160 million Americans,
rather than the Republicans' paltry 48 million, and that decisions as to
what medical care is necessary be returned entirely to attending physicians
(providing they follow "generally accepted medical practice.")

  Republicans warned that would destroy the efforts of health care plans to
put a lid on medical costs, bringing back uncontrolled medical inflation
and ultimately causing 1.8 million Americans to lose insurance coverage,
entirely.

  (Actually, the Congressional Budget Office estimates the Democratic plan
would have added 4.8 percent to the cost of insurance over five years,
while the GOP version would add 0.8 percent.)

  "The Democrat plan means more government, more lawyers, more rules, more
uninsured and more government control," declared Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas.
Meantime, across the aisle, millionaire whisky heir Sen. Edward M. Kennedy,
D-Mass. and co-sponsor of the Democratic proposal, called the GOP version a
"profit-protection plan for the insurance industry."

  Needless to say, the dog that never barked in this particular circus is
the one that might have pointed out the U.S. Constitution grants no
authority for the federal government to meddle in the medical market at all
-- that Americans are supposed to be free to contract for the medical
insurance of their choice (if at all), and that national edicts requiring a
gray sameness of "consumer protections" were never part of the founder's
vision of a "small central government, with limited powers, sharply
delineated."

  Such quaint notions no longer receiving even token attention in
Washington, of course.

  So, unfortunately, even the GOP plan will now make it harder for patients
to sue their HMOs -- a further restriction on patient rights, peddled as
part of a "Patient Bill of Rights." How charming.

  What "rights" are guaranteed? Both the Republican and Democratic plans
would require that insurers pay for emergency room visits outside the
plan's network when a "prudent lay person" would believe symptoms indicate
a medical emergency. (An insurer would have to pay for an emergency room
visit for chest pains, for example, even if the pains turned out not to
indicate a heart attack.)

  That seems reasonable at first glance. But look again. No one has
proposed barring access to emergency rooms, which nearly always treat
life-or-death emergencies without advance payment guarantees. Furthermore,
patients always retain the option of paying such bills themselves. (Would
you allow your favorite politician to condemn your grocer or health insurer
for "conspiring to starve the children" because the grocer expects to be
paid for his produce and the insurance company won't buy it for you -
despite the obvious importance of fruit and vegetables to your health?)

  And why should consumers be banned from buying less expensive policies
that announce up front they will not pay for ER visits that fail to result
in hospital admissions -- a mighty expensive alternative to the local
health clinic?

  While patients should certainly have an accessible grievance process, and
retain the right to sue their insurance companies, grisly photographs and
worst-case anecdotes about HMOs denying "life-saving treatment" -- often
referring to expensive experimental treatments for patients already
terminally ill -- ignore the fact that managed care is working well at
holding back costs, which is all that makes medical insurance affordable
for millions, in the first place.

  Our medical system, while the best in the world, could stand some reform.
Getting government quickly out of the picture  -- except for courts to
prosecute fraud -- would be the best and fastest fix. (Even the "linkage"
of health insurance to the workplace -- the root of the current problem --
was the direct result of a government intervention, since the 1940s federal
wage freeze allowed employers to compete for employees only by offering
better tax-deductible health insurance -- 

Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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A really interesting posting.  Thanks.  It lets me view Aristotle ina whole
new light.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

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In a message dated 07/17/1999 1:37:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


 Ah, so because Africans enslaved each other, Americans should feel no
 pain about our national heritage of enslaving/slaughtering/exploiting
 others?  Does not compute.  Just because slavery has existed in many
 societies, justified by many doctrines, enriching many directly and
 indirectly, doesn't mean that slavery is GOOD.  Slavery means OWNING
 other human beings, and in much of the world today, especially the
 societies that are effecting the increased prosperity of humanity,
 that notion sucks.  Slave societies today are impoverished, isolated,
 disease-ridden, for slave and master alike.  Whoever likes slavery
 is most welcome to their short and brutish lives, u-betcha. 

Nothing in Sobran's article said that slavery was good or that anyone other
than the slaves and slavers had any regard for it.  Man's inhumanity to man
takes many forms.  Slavery does not appear to be the worst of them.  The
ownership of human beings also takes many forms.  Slavery is just the one
that can be most clearly observed.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The Idea in America

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In a message dated 07/17/1999 1:59:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Vaszonyi's book, 'America's 30 Years War', is intended to warn citizens of
 this nation about the critical danger he sees to America's continued
 existence as a free society.

 "For the past thirty years," writes Vaszonyi, "all aspects of our lives --
 and all of our institutions -- have been moving in one direction away from
 America's founding principles  And every time we move away from
 America's founding principles, we move in the direction of the sole
 realistic alternative" -- totalitarian socialism, or what Vaszonyi refers to
 as "The Idea." 

I hope Mr. Vaszonyi has information in his book about how we can stop it.  I
think most of us who have any time to think know that America is becoming
what amounts to a tightly controlled feudal society, but no matter what we do
to get back our freedom, Congress is right there to subvert us.  They aren't
alone.  The States' governing bodies are even more efficient than Congress in
these matters.  We all know we're sliding into vicious repression.  Figure
out how to put on the brakes.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] A Curriculum of United States Labor History for Teachers.

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Hi Kris,

   I, and I'm sure all members of this list who homeschool their
children, thank you thank you thank you for this curriculum!

Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4

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Hmph! That's nuthin! You shoulda seen the crop circle I had in my
back
yard a couple a years ago. We emptied out and picked up my daughter's
wading pool, and underneath was the smoothest, most perfect, swirled
circle I ever saw! Geometric perfection.

ROTFPIMP!!

Ours was shaped like the underbelly of a dinosaur!
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[CTRL] Fw: TWA800 Cover-up Continues

[Lloyd Miller]

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-Original Message-
From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 5:43 AM
Subject: TWA800 Cover-up Continues



  THE TWA FLIGHT 800 COVER-UP CONTINUES

  An Overview of Covered-up Evidence

  (c) July 17, 1999 Ian Goddard

  Three years after the crash of TWA Flight 800, which
  killed 230 people, the Federal Government continues
  to keep significant crash evidence hidden from the
  public while those who point to this cover-up have
  been smeared, arrested, and prosecuted for their
  crimes of second-guessing the government's claims
  about Flight 800. Let's review a few examples of
  the Federal Government's intensive and on-going
  effort to keep The People and The Truth separate:

  (1) The missile seen rising from the ocean would
  require a launch platform. Therefore, the identity
  of every vessel in the area is of paramount import.
  The National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB)
  released radar data that identifies several radar
  tracks below the Flight 800 crash as "boats." [1]
  When Congressman James Traficant asked the FBI if
  such boats were identified, the FBI informed him:
  (a) one boat that speeds away from the crash scene
  out to deep sea is unknown, and (b) the identities
  of the other surface vessels are known but shall
  remain secret under authority of the Privacy Act.[2]

  Amazingly, not long after the FBI told Congressman
  Traficant that the identities of the vessels below
  the crash will be kept secret, Traficant suddenly
  closed his inquiry and concluded that there was not
  "a single piece of solid evidence or testimony from
  a participant in the investigation that points to a
  cover-up." [3] It follows thus that: secret = open.

  (2) The author James Sanders released physical
  evidence from the crash that was leaked from the
  investigation by TWA pilot Captain Terrell Stacy.
  The evidence was two small patches of seat cushion
  from a group of seats that were covered with a red
  residue that may be rocket fuel. Sanders gave CBS
  News a patch so that they could test it; instead,
  CBS returned it to the cover-up. Sanders took his
  patch to a laboratory to have the residue tested.[4]

  The findings support Mr. Sanders's fuel theory more
  so than the FBI's claim that it's glue. But who is
  correct, the FBI or Sanders? We cannot know because
  (a) the FBI seized the evidence and made it disappear,
  (b) the cushioning that was on the seats was stripped
  off and disappeared after the Sanders leak, and (c)
  the FBI is withholding the details of their chemical
  analysis of the residue. A cover-up in triplicate!
  The only news of this to surface in the major media
  was the arrest of James Sanders and his wife and the
  parading of them in chains before media cameras for
  the crime of liberating evidence from the cover-up.

  (3) TWA employee and member of the Cabin Interior
  Group in the official investigation Linda Kuntz
  found that NTSB officials were altering data to
  make it appear that seats from the rear of the
  plane that were found in the early-debris field
  were instead found in the later-debris field.
  Linda Kuntz called on the assistance of two New
  York Police Officers to photograph the sequence
  of alterations. They then informed TWA attorneys,
  who informed the NTSB. The NTSB contacted the FBI
  to have Kuntz investigated for taking the photo-
  graphs. Kuntz was thrown off the "investigation"
  and threatened with indictment and prosecution.[5]

  (4) A party to the official investigation, NYANG
  pilot Major Frederick Meyer (who was also a witness
  to the crash) was in charge of transporting a very
  important piece of debris from the Calverton hanger
  to the FBI's headquarters in Washington. About this
  special debris, Meyer told the Village Voice [6]:

 "I knew from looking at it that it was the
 leading edge of some aerofoil -- horizontal
 stabilizer, rudder, or wing -- and it had
 punctures in it. We're talking about a
 piece of aluminum alloy that is very strong
 and rigid. In this were dimples with holes
 in the center of the dimple, like something
 was driven through with incredible force --
 I would say [there were] four to six holes."

  Meyer also said the holes "were about 3/4 of an
  inch to one inch in diameter." [7] When asked if
  the punctures appeared to come from the outside
  he replied: "The dimples around each hole indicate
  that something passed through from the outside to
  the inside." [8] Penetration from the outside to
  the inside is prima facie evidence of an external
  high-velocity explosion, such as the explosion
  a proximity-fused missile warhead could deliver.

  Unfortunately the whereabouts of that important
  evidence is unknown. Robert Davey, a Village Voice
  reporter, tried to tack it down without success. As
  he reported in the Village Voice, FBI spokesman Joe
  

Re: [CTRL] resource list information

[Aol user]

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Neil,
What a wonderful and comprehensive guide.
Thank you, how useful this is!
God bless you.
Terry

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[CTRL] JFK JUNIOR PLANE MISSING

[Ric Carter]

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http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/09/news-kennedy-leadall

Plane Believed To Carry Young Kennedy Is Missing

Updated 9:02 AM ET July 17, 1999

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A single-engine plane which media reports said was
carrying John F. Kennedy Jr., son of the former U.S. president, disappeared
on its way to Massachusetts, the Coast Guard said Saturday.
The Coast Guard has picked up a signal from an airplane beacon in the water
off the eastern tip of Long Island along the small plane's presumed flight
path, said Coast Guard spokesman Petty Officer Todd Burgun.

MSNBC reported that the Coast Guard had picked up a signal from an airplane
beacon off the eastern tip of Long Island along Kennedy's presumed flight
path between New Jersey and the Massachusetts island of Martha's Vineyard.

The reports said Kennedy took off from an airfield in New Jersey Friday
night. Coast Guard officials were not immediately available for comment.




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[CTRL] Fw: IUFO: Re: Gravity, underground bases, etc.

[Nicky Molloy]

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-Original Message-
From: Ashley Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, 18 July 1999 1:30
Subject: IUFO: Re: Gravity, underground bases, etc.



-  IUFO  Mailing List

At 21:20 16/07/99 -0700, you wrote:

-  IUFO  Mailing List

On 16 Jul 99, at 17:27, The Foltz Family wrote:

 Wait a minute.

 I thought that ether was false, that there was no universal point of
 reference. Didn't somebody prove that?

In the late 19th century scientists performed an experiment using an
interferometer to measure the velocity of light and because it was the same
in all directions they claimed that this disproved the existance of ether.

However, the assumptions made, that ether is a three dimensional
substance that interacts with matter and energy was not necessarily valid.

Scientists still do not have a satisfactory explanation of the mechanism of
gravity and they have not been able to identify any particles or waves
responsible for the force of gravity, at least not scientists working on
non-
classified projects. I believe in many cases the scientists who do
understand gravity have been asked to work on black projects, so the
information is not publicly available.

I have personally seen US operated antigravity craft and so have reason to
believe that the above paragraph is true.

So, perhaps we need to rethink the classical definition of ether, which
does
explain gravity as a push phenominon and we will also be able to design
antigravity craft outside of the black projects. I believe this will happen
eventually, by scientists and engineers who have learned to think for
themselves, instead of accepting everything they are taught without
question and worrying that they might be rejected by their peers if they do
not conform.

Regards,
Steve

You might be interested to hear that, gravity forces aside, there have been
extensive operations conducted with regard to weather control/manipulation.
Aside from the account of covert scalar/longitudinal wave devices being
tested by Japanese scientists in the Australian Outback, I have recently
seen a video which purports to show elements of so-called 'orgone device'
(re: Wilhelm Reich, i.e., so-called 'cloudbuster') employed at RAF
Bentwaters. This device, and associated technologies, were said to have a
great deal to do with '87 hurricane here in the UK. The 'tracks' i.e.,
evidence, for this were apparently well covered, but there was clearly
extensive damage centered around the base. I understand that there was an
unusually high suicide rate among base personnel, that the much-publicised
'Woodbridge' incident was one of many strange events; that Larry Warren's
passport was confiscated, in an act of harrassment calculated to prevent
him from speaking here in the UK; That, during the Woodbrige/Bentwaters
incident, 'beams' penetrated a bunker where nuclear weapons were kept -
possibly the so-called underground 'nuclear cafe', where tactical nuclear
weapons were held, (allegedly in contravention of international treaty) - a
chain reaction could have caused widespread devastation - and that a plane
from Germany with a special team was flown in to deal with the consequences
of the nuclear UFO activity.
  I further understand that operatives from the installation at
Peasmore, Berkshire, UK, were directly involved in the indoctrination, via
hypnosis, drugs, and psychotronics, of some of the witnesses to the
Woodbridge incident; there are 20-odd witnesses to this incident and few
will talk about it, fearing the consequences. There are definite
indications here of a psychotronics/disinformation operation designed to
manipulate witnesses. I don't discount a genuine dimensional/ET event,
perhaps involving experiments that went on at that underground
installation, but there was certainly a psychotronics/cover incident that
followed. Perhaps we will never know the full truth of what occurred, since
Halt was bound not to reveal certain information; however, three seperate
tests revealed radiation on the so-called tripod 'landing' site, which I
have photocopies of. Bark from trees brushed by the'object', and other
physical evidence is said to be witheld by Federal authorities.
   Understandably, many take 'Remote Viewing', channelling, etc., with a
pinch of salt, although the CIA spent 30 years running a remote viewing
operation, described in a UK documentary relatively recently. Naturally,
according to the statement they gave, the military has nothing to do with
it now... of course, we believe _everything_ they say, right...??!!
However, Remote Viwer/psychic Lisa Williams has described a 'Stargate'
rippling-water type vortex under Bentwaters, which she says the military
created, but were unable to shut down, so they encased it in a metal
cage-type construction. According to her they were not successful and
'entities' are still coming out of it, hence some of the strange incidents
that were alleged to have occurred on and arround 

[CTRL] Fw: [CAUS updates] - Member Commentary Revisited

[Ric Carter]

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- Original Message -
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Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 10:28 PM
Subject: [CAUS updates] - Member Commentary Revisited



Dear CAUS Members:

On this Saturday CAUS once again shares with you a commentary that was
originally posted in October...but deserves repeating:

CAUS thanks Scott H. Colborn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for this innovative
approach to public awareness:

Ten Ways You Can Help The UFO Cover-up Continue by Scott H. Colborn

1) First but foremost, don't talk about the subject!  If you're
hunched over the coffee pot at work and your coworker asks if you
watched the UFO special on TV the previous night, plead ignorance
and say you were watching the Gilligan's Island reruns.  If you
are forced to make a statement, say something like "well, some say
there may be something to this stuff, but I don't know"  Kind
of roll your eyes back in your head and laugh nervously.  But don't
say any more, because if you do, someone else might get the idea
that YOU BELIEVE!  (To believe is a fate worse than being caught
in a time warp dancing cheek-to-cheek with Richard Nixon on top of
the big desk in the Oval Office with all your friends watching and
laughing hysterically and knowing that it's true.Dick is a GOOD
dancer.)

2) Don't join any organizations that purport to be actively studying
the UFO mystery.  If they dare to suggest that there may be a
reality in the thousands of worldwide reports from pilots, housewives,
retail clerks, farmers, psychologists, doctors, the young and the old;
just drop `em flat.  Don't contribute any money, and heavens don't
give `em any of your time.  99.9% of all the organizations
investigating UFO's depend totally on member support.  No members-no
support.  It's that simple.  Don't give `em anything and they can't
exist.  If they don't exist, we've won.  There won't be anyone to
challenge the "party line (see #3)."  Better yet, if you gotta join
something and the bowling league is filled, join CSICOP.  You can
surround yourself with such good people as Philip Klass or Joe Nichol,
who rarely have to interview a witness to a paranormal event before
making a pronouncement because after all, they know what's "going on,"
and they know what they are going to find before they find it.  A
witness might just mess up "the facts."  Don't worry, we have suitable
patriots infiltrating most of the UFO and paranormal groups, and we
won't let `em get too far spreading their swill about alien abductions
of our children and the like.

3) Don't read any books or magazines that have articles about UFO's.
Don't encourage people around you to read `em either, because if you
can keep `em dumb and stupid, they'll go on believing the "party line."
You know which party line I'm talking about, don't you?  Stand up while
you read this and repeat after me, with your hand held over your heart
and your eyes suitably glazed over.  Ready.?  "THERE ARE NO SUCH
THINGS AS UFO's...AND ANYONE REPORTING A UFO IS A CRACKPOT, WEIRDO,
COMMIE-LOVING LIBERAL, PERVERT ALCOHOLIC DRUG TAKING SCHIZOPHRENIC WACKO
PEROT BELIEVER."

4) Never, I repeat, NEVER ask anybody important (anybody important is
someone that pays good money to have their shirts professionally
laundered) questions in public about the UFO subject or about the
paranormal.  Especially politicians, or more importantly, politicians
that you helped get elected by either not voting, or by not voting for
the other folks.  Always ask `em really deep questions like "Are you
going to raise taxes?"  If we can just keep the UFO questions out of
the public arena, we have won the game.  By not telling your elected
officials your concerns about UFO's or the paranormal, you'll never
endanger yourself or them with a possible violation of the "party
line."  Of course if you're with me here, you really don't have any
concerns anyhow.  Don't elect anyone who is a "free thinker."  Keep
electing the folks who will listen to reason (...the "party line").
Keep the professional politicians going back into office year after
year after year, because it's the way it's always been.  And it's
worked for the last 50 years or so.

5) If you ever hear anyone in your immediate vicinity talking about
the UFO subject or the paranormal, point your finger at `em and burst
out laughing.  Tell `em you're going to call the people wearing the
white coats to take `em away.  Try to make them feel as uncomfortable
as possible.  A bunch of half-baked loonies...like they expect us to
take them seriously.  Let `em know real quick that no one in the world
will listen to them or take the subject seriously.  After all, you
don't, and you're happy, aren't you?  (The scar on my calf is nothing.
I probably got it playing football.  Those defensive tackles really
can gouge a guy up.)

6) Attempt to keep any and all discussion of UFO or paranormal subjects
out of the public and private schools.  Remember that before we adults
can "mold 

Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

[Bill]

 -Caveat Lector-

And then you have the instance of numismatic slavery whereby
ALL of America is enslaved, insidiously, covertly, by a
money system written from a religious sourceSLAVES OBEY
YOUR MASTERSthe company store of that great Pawn Shop
The Federal Reserve is nothing more than a slave making
device.  Talk about an elitist attitude.  The most efficient
slavery in the world happens when the victims are unaware,
as Americans woefully are.
Bill Gallagher

Ric Carter wrote:

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  THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY | Joseph Sobran | June 15, 1999
  WASHINGTON -- Conventional textbook history teaches that white Europeans
  created slavery and imposed it on black Africa. This myth is designed to
  make white Americans feel so guilty that they will give up their own
  rights in the name of "civil rights."

 Ah, so because Africans enslaved each other, Americans should feel no
 pain about our national heritage of enslaving/slaughtering/exploiting
 others?  Does not compute.  Just because slavery has existed in many
 societies, justified by many doctrines, enriching many directly and
 indirectly, doesn't mean that slavery is GOOD.  Slavery means OWNING
 other human beings, and in much of the world today, especially the
 societies that are effecting the increased prosperity of humanity,
 that notion sucks.  Slave societies today are impoverished, isolated,
 disease-ridden, for slave and master alike.  Whoever likes slavery
 is most welcome to their short and brutish lives, u-betcha.

 All this crap quoted from Sobran is twisted, dysfunctional, a batch
 of exhortations for a return to the bad old days when niggers were
 lynched and jews were pogramized, orientals were slant-eyed demons
 and women were cunts.  "People as property" doesn't work when the'
 survival of your organization depends on having the brightest, most
 able people you can find, regardless of ethnicity or biology.  Such
 racist/sexist/elitist attitudes are self-destructive, suicidal. Mr.
 Sobran is an obvious loser whose only role in life is to recruit
 other losers onto his highway to oblivion.  Yow.

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[CTRL] $$ AmeriCorps $$ sucks $$ taxpayer $$

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Source:  The New American/The Right Answers, July 19. 1999, page 25


QUESTION:  How much has AmeriCorps cost taxpayers?
 How many "volunteer" have been involved in the program?

ANSWER:

As of the end of 1998, some $2.1 billion was spent on the four-year-old
AmeriCorps --- President Clinton's vaunted plan to pay young people to
volunteer.

More than 1000,000 members have served in the ranks of what has been called
the "domestic Peace Corps."

The volunteers serve in government agencies and certain approved
non-profits -- which has included doing work in partisan and ideological
campaigns.

The House Subcommittee on Government Oversight, chaired by Representative
Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), has uncovered many of the activities that have been
funded by the taxpayers.

Summarizing some of the congressional panel's findings late last year was
'Investor's Business Daily':

$$  "Sponsoring a 'Maxine Waters Day of Caring'
in association with the Democratic Los Angeles congresswoman [then]
heading
the Congressional Black Caucus.  AmeriCorps also has participated in
rallies
for other congressional Democrats."

$$  "Attending Earth Day rallies."

$$  "Giving $400,000 for the Human Resource Development Institute, a
subsidiary of
the AFL-CIO.

$$  Paying $400,000 for the Washington-based National Multicultural
Institute to
conduct diversity training."

$$  Aiding the Environmental Protection Agency's 'environmental justice
campaign.'"

Little wonder Chairman Hoekstra has called the agency "nothing more than a
huge government bureaucracy seeking new ways to spend taxpayer money."

Actually, that's rather a benevolent definition for an agency established to
recruit fodder
for the central government.

---William P. Hoar


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[CTRL] Psychotropics

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Source:  The New American/Free Press, July 19, 1999, Page 31


Psychotropics


An estimated six million American children are presently taking legally
prescribed psychotropic drugs such as Ritalin, Luvox, and Prozac to treat
sundry mental and emotional maladies.

Approximately two million, or three to five percent of our school-age
population, are ingesting Ritalin alone, to cope with an alleged malady
currently called Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), which many
credible medical authorities doubt even exists as a scientifically confirmed
illness.

Reporter Patricia O'Meara, writing in the June 20th issue of 'Insight',
scrutinizes evidence of a possible link between psychotropic medications and
such violent incidents as the recent spate of highly publicized school
shootings.

A number of the perpetrators, though coming from widely varying economic and
cultural environments, had been "labeled as suffering from a mental illness
and were being treated with psychotropic drugs that for years have been
known to cause serious adverse effects when given to children."

Regarding Ritalin, for example, O'Meara recalls that the World Health
Organization concluded nearly three decades ago that is "was
pharmacologically similar to cocaine in its pattern of abuse and cited
Ritalin as a Schedule II drug -- the most addictive in medical usage."

The Department of Justice subsequently listed Ritalin as a Schedule II
controlled substance for "having a very high potential for abuse," placing
it in the same category as "morphine, opium, cocaine, and the heroin
substitute methadone."

While scientific evidence supporting the classification of ADHD as a mental
illness is flimsy at best, there is, O'Meara concludes, "an abundance of
evidence that stimulants such as Ritalin can produce symptoms such as mania,
insomnia, hallucinations, hyperactivity, impulsivity, and inattention.

And the DEA's list of potential adverse effects of Ritalin includes
psychosis, depression, dizziness, insomnia, nervousness, irritability, and
attacks of Tourette's or other tic syndromes."  (3600 New York Avenue, NE,
Washington, DC 20002)


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Re: [CTRL] The Idea in America

[Bill]

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the environmental movement are far more effective [at
promoting The Idea]
than any political party

When you consider the trashing of America by elite
industrialists whose "Idea" is to enslave the mass
economically your labeling of environmentalism does not
washfar more insidious are the machinators of a fiat
currency and benefit-based colorable money where PROFIT IS
ALL.  I certainly don't need any outside influences to show
me or coerce me into believing that the elite have defecated
where we eatits in my face man...its all around...I
think you (The Author) are right on with your allusion to
big education though, it is a lesson in ineffectuality,
marketing slickness, and programming.   A clean Earth is
even more profitable than a dirty Earth, but its not as
EASY, and above all the ignorant and greedy sluts who have
run things to date are lazy and only after the easy meat.
The last thing we need, to enforce a clean environment, is
more government...we need a mass awakening.  As a follower
of Non-Semitic Primitive Religious Thought I can honestly
say that the greedy and lazy pigs who run us like a slave
force now CAN'T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES.
Natural Vision
By Bill Gallagher
6/27/98 0138LThonotosassaFL33592

  The word Canvas is derived from the word cannabis.  Please
allow me to elucidate:
 Canvas,  noun,  F. canevas,  LL canabacius, hempen
cloth,  L cannabis hempa strong cloth made of hemp.
Websters 1902.
 Now think about that for a moment.  Canvas.  That means
rope, bags,  sails,  paper,  shoes,  flags,  tents;  even
the very first blue jeans were canvas for crying out loud!
I'm sure there were plenty of other things too.  I can't
even imagine it, because I was not there, and because this
material has been Outlawed here in America throughout the
whole of my natural born life.
 The forces behind hemps illegality were Wood-Pulp
Paper, and Petroleum Plastics.  Big Paper attacked hemp
throughout the 1920's and 30's because a decorticator (Fibre
Separator) had been developed and patented in 1917 by George
W. Schlicten, and by the 20's it was beginning to make
wood-pulp paper unprofitable.  Petroleum interests colluded
with paper interests because people like Henry Ford and
Edison and Others were inventing ways to make some very good
plastics and even combustible fuels from hemp.
   So in a hush-hush, rush-rush kind of legislation, on
a hot summer night in 1937, hemp was effectively blacklisted
and banned, made illegal.  There was no public outcry over
this because prohibition sentiment ran strong during this
time period, especially concerning alcohol, and this
sentiment had been given a real shot in the arm from a media
financed by Big Paper, and Petroleum interests.  A well
planned and executed disinformation campaign portrayed the
flower of hemp, marijuana, as evil.  The Hearst papers were
singularly guilty as they yellowed the world with stories of
black jazz musicians smoking the evil marijuana, then raping
white women.  They were expert at fanning the fires of
racism, and this is the main reason behind much of the
racial strife in this country, to this day.  Ill founded
notions are the literal foundation of society here, notions
based on malicious lies for the profit of a few elite
industrial operators.  The truth is this:  marijuana, the
flower of mountain grown hemp, is a natural pharmacological
agent, as is aspirin and numerous other curatives, and has
been known among doctors and healers throughout the world
for its psychoactive and medicinal properties for well over
three thousand years.  The smearing of the hemp flower
ensured Big Papers lock on the profitability of its huge
virgin forest holdings in the west, and opened the door for
Petroleum Plastics monopolys.
  Truly the beginning of a New World Order, based not on
hard work, enlightment, and innovation, but, rather, on
special interest manipulations, subterfuge, and outright
lies.
  Since then we have seen gargantuan chunks of
manufacturing become controlled by petroleum plastics, and
Moved OUT of America.  It has made manufacturing quick and
easy and cheap.  And shoddy too.  The death of Americas
awareness concerning the quality and origin of its consumer
goods is inexcusable, because it pertains directly to the
survival of our freedom.  We are less free now than during
any other time in our history, and its not getting any
better.  Our power as a people has been destroyed.
 By disallowing hemp as a resource we have trashed the
environment with petroleum insecticides, shut off all
alternatives to cleaner fuels for our motorized society,
removed a major pain medication from the sick and injured,
thereby actually CREATING pain, and we have all but given
away the primest farmland in America.   But there is hope,
and there are still warriors here, and though the burden is
large, three generations worth at least, the quest for
liberty and fairness has 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4

[ric carter]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (j) wrote:
 "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 # BREAKING THE LANGUAGE BARRIER. International scientists test a
  translation system that can convert the babble of up to six lan-
  guages. Curses too? A wearable version is aimed at travelers.
  Get THAT one implanted fast - see
  http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/technology/story/20747.html
 
 : Do you want to be wirelessly, seamlessly wired into the entire
  world, with no language barriers? Should we all be? Will we become
  a group-mind? When?

*WE* are the "Borg" ... no getting around it. Becoming
"wired" to greater and greater degrees will not be imposed,
it will be DEMANDED by the public. Each level will enhance
personal and national productivity. The un-wired will fall
behind and become neo-trailer-trash.

Chip Delaney wrote about this in BABEL-17 about 35 years ago - the
un-wired become the dispossessed, riff-raff, possibly justifying their
self-disenfranchisement with claims of "cultural purity".  But, just
as cretinists will have no place in the biotech revolution, those who
shun Borgification will be irrelevant to the integrated global economy
[economy -- oikonomia -- household rules].  They probably won't even
be able to find fulfilling careers in the food-service and building-
maintenance industries, and will only have an impact on the rest of
mankind via intermittant terrorist acts.  Meanwhile, that "rest of
humanity" bunch will be immensely productive, protected, proactive,
and swarm out into the universe. Will we leave Terra to ther dim kin?

If you get a hundred people together, you get a "tribe"
and spend your days looking for lizards under rocks.
If you get ten thousand people together, you get a
"civilization" and math, science, literature, philosophy
and art flourish within just a few generations. Get a
billion people more-or-less together ... do you get some
new and neat-o emergent quality ... or do you just get
the kind of pointless bickering we see on usenet ?  One
consequence of "connectedness" is *distraction* -
inadequate mental bandwidth. There may not *be* a "next
level", at least not for "natural" humans.

So, we're breeding/building some fast-evolving silicon intelligences
that we'll do our best to integrate within our [bioengineered] selves
- or will they take off, supplant us, as Hans Moravec and others say?

And as bioengineering and cognitive enhancement and Borgification lead
to a net of silicon/human/cetacean/simian/protean intelligences, will
concern for "natural humanity" be relevant? Pretty soon we'll be able
to rebuild ourselves into whatever race/gender/species we want, and
all the current debates about ethnicity/sexuality will be on par with
arguing about counting angels on pinheads [measure the width of the
pin; measure the width of the angel's arse; divide a by b] or debating
whether evil is a substance and will it splash on you - y'know, usenet
stuff. #8-)  The next important questions may be: who goes Borg first?
Can we get off-planet fast enough to avoid biosphere meltdown?  Whose
philosophical coalitions will control which moons, which quadrants of
the asteroid belt and Oort cloud, which paths to galactic expansion?

Conspiratorialists may blame the upcoming changes on Illuminati or
Bilderbergers or Jewish/Marxist/Satanist/Reptilioid forces or such.
Hah.  People with the chance to participate in these changes will, as
you point out, DEMAND to be included in Borgification, because that's
the best shot at immortality, empowerment, meaningfulness, relevance.
Transformation is inevitible.  Resistance is futile.

  Ric "I am Dyslexic of Borg - your ass will be laminated" Carter

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Re: [CTRL] THE HISTORY OF THE STANDARD OIL COMPANY

[M.A. Johnson]

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Well my computer has been 'ill' ...


This is total and absolute nonsense:

Das GOAT wrote:
snip

1901
"The Spindletop [oil] gusher in Beaumont, Texas, gives
 John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Trust its first
 major competition.  The Beaumont Field contains more
 oil than the rest of the United States combined ... The
  Gulf Oil Co. has its beginnings as [the investors] get
  backing from [Anglophile] banker Andrew W. Mellon ...
 "More than half the world's oil output is from Russia's
  Baku fields developed by Ludwig Nobel, brother of
  dynamite inventor Alfred Nobel, and by
snip

   1902:
   "'History of the Standard Oil Company' by Ida Minerva Tarbell
appears in McClure's magazine installments, revealing that
John D. Rockefeller controls 90 percent of US oil-refining
capacity ... US Steel Co. has two-thirds of US

snip

MJ:
Anti-Trust serves business interests who cannot compete in
the marketplace period.  This propaganda nonsense about
monopolies and 'Robber Barons' is bunk.  Read and research
rather than regurgitate the indoctrinated myths.



The Ghost of John D. Rockefeller
by Thomas J. DiLorenzo


At the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on competitiveness
in the computer industry last March, Microsoft chairman Bill
Gates was compared to the infamous 'robber baron' John D.
Rockefeller and his company likened to the Standard Oil Company
of the late nineteenth century.  Federal Trade Commission
chairman Robert Pitofsky made a similar analogy in a Washington
Post op-ed, where he self-servingly argued for more money for
antitrust investigations.  Gates's competitors, too, are
working diligently to implant the Rockefeller analogy in the
public consciousness.

Even the Wall Street Journal has joined in this attack; reporter
Alan Murray claimed in a page-one article that Gates supposedly
enjoys 'monopoly power' that 'even John D. Rockefeller could
envy'.

Microsoft's critics are right.  There are many similarities
between Bill Gates's company and the old Standard Oil
organization.

Like Gates, Rockefeller was the victim of a political assault
for the 'sin' of rapid innovation, a vast expansion of output,
and rapidly declining prices -- just the opposite of what the
antitrust laws ostensibly police.  As with Microsoft, the
political attack on Standard Oil was launched by less-efficient
rivals who wanted to achieve through the political process what
they failed to achieve in the marketplace.

There is indeed a lesson to be learned from Rockefeller's antitrust
ordeal, but it is not the one Microsoft's critics have in mind.


Rockefeller's Economic Legacy

The firm of Rockefeller, Andrews, and Flagler was formed in 1865
and was a marvel of efficiency because of Rockefeller's
penny-pinching ways and the managerial genius of his brother
William. (1)  Even Rockefeller's harshest critic, the muckraking
journalist Ida Tarbell (whose brother's firm -- the Pure Oil
Company -- was driven from the market by the more efficient
Standard Oil), described the company as 'a marvelous example of
economy'. (2)

The efficiencies of economies of scale and vertical integration
caused the prices of refined petroleum to fall from over 30 cents
a gallon in 1869 to 10 cents by 1874 and to 5.9 cents by 1897.
During the same period, Rockefeller reduced his average costs
from 3 cents to 0.29 cents per gallon.

The production of refined petroleum increased rapidly throughout
this period of increasing dominance by Standard Oil as well, as
increased competition was provided by Associated Oil and Gas,
Texaco, the Gulf Company, and 147 independent refineries that had
sprung into existence by 1911 -- the year in which the government
forced the breakup of Standard Oil.

Contrary to popular mythology, Standard Oil's market share
DECLINED from 88 percent in 1890 to 64 percent by 1911. Because
of intense competition the company's oil production as a percentage
of total market supply had declined to a mere 11 percent in 1911,
down from 34 percent in 1898.

Moreover, Standard Oil's decades-long price-cutting was not
'predatory pricing' -- the theoretical practice of pricing below
average cost to drive competitors from the market and establish a
monopoly.  Any business person would be a fool to intentionally
lose money by pricing below average cost for decades.  As economist
John McGee concluded in his classic analysis of the Standard Oil
case, "whatever else has been said about [it], the old Standard
organization was seldom criticized for making less money when it
could readily have made more" through other means. (3)

Indeed, Standard Oil never came close to cornering the market; by
the time the antitrust case against it was filed in 1906, it had
hundreds of competitors.  Nevertheless, Standard Oil was convicted
of violating the antitrust laws in 1911 and partially dissolved,
despite the fact that the courts conducted no economic analysis of
its conduct and performance.  That 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4

[Bill]

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I think you are giving a lot of credit to agencies who have
proven they deserve none such...the occurence of
prophylactic law enforcement and the unwillingly wired (a
means to physical slavery) makes me think that your biotech
solutions are half baked and ignorantly optimistic...I agree
that enhancement through electronics might be a good thing,
but I disagree that  the leaders and elite who run the world
now have the upward evolution of human intercourse and
discourse as their main goals...they are slave makers and
require slavery to instill within themselves a seemingly
much needed superiority feeling.  Your denigration and
labeling makes me believe you wish to distance yourself from
those who would defy your masters.  Thats a common enough
trait but is simply an elitist mindset of the haves who are
scared shitless of being have nots.  Little concern is given
to the economic welfare of the mass, afterall, the mass is
there to serve, no? Prey.  It Works!
 Conspiracy is one of the most punished of all activitys
in government and business today because it works so well.
It derives from Dynastic (Read Feudal/Futile) thinking.  It
is the bane of our race and is rooted in simple vanity...I
cannot see a way out of that as all the implants and
enhancements will basically amplify vanity.  As long as
there are people concerned with creature comforts, the human
race will be nothing more than creatures.
Bill Gallagher
luxefaire.com


ric carter wrote:

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (j) wrote:
  "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  # BREAKING THE LANGUAGE BARRIER. International scientists test a
   translation system that can convert the babble of up to six lan-
   guages. Curses too? A wearable version is aimed at travelers.
   Get THAT one implanted fast - see
   http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/technology/story/20747.html
  
  : Do you want to be wirelessly, seamlessly wired into the entire
   world, with no language barriers? Should we all be? Will we become
   a group-mind? When?
 
 *WE* are the "Borg" ... no getting around it. Becoming
 "wired" to greater and greater degrees will not be imposed,
 it will be DEMANDED by the public. Each level will enhance
 personal and national productivity. The un-wired will fall
 behind and become neo-trailer-trash.

 Chip Delaney wrote about this in BABEL-17 about 35 years ago - the
 un-wired become the dispossessed, riff-raff, possibly justifying their
 self-disenfranchisement with claims of "cultural purity".  But, just
 as cretinists will have no place in the biotech revolution, those who
 shun Borgification will be irrelevant to the integrated global economy
 [economy -- oikonomia -- household rules].  They probably won't even
 be able to find fulfilling careers in the food-service and building-
 maintenance industries, and will only have an impact on the rest of
 mankind via intermittant terrorist acts.  Meanwhile, that "rest of
 humanity" bunch will be immensely productive, protected, proactive,
 and swarm out into the universe. Will we leave Terra to ther dim kin?

 If you get a hundred people together, you get a "tribe"
 and spend your days looking for lizards under rocks.
 If you get ten thousand people together, you get a
 "civilization" and math, science, literature, philosophy
 and art flourish within just a few generations. Get a
 billion people more-or-less together ... do you get some
 new and neat-o emergent quality ... or do you just get
 the kind of pointless bickering we see on usenet ?  One
 consequence of "connectedness" is *distraction* -
 inadequate mental bandwidth. There may not *be* a "next
 level", at least not for "natural" humans.

 So, we're breeding/building some fast-evolving silicon intelligences
 that we'll do our best to integrate within our [bioengineered] selves
 - or will they take off, supplant us, as Hans Moravec and others say?

 And as bioengineering and cognitive enhancement and Borgification lead
 to a net of silicon/human/cetacean/simian/protean intelligences, will
 concern for "natural humanity" be relevant? Pretty soon we'll be able
 to rebuild ourselves into whatever race/gender/species we want, and
 all the current debates about ethnicity/sexuality will be on par with
 arguing about counting angels on pinheads [measure the width of the
 pin; measure the width of the angel's arse; divide a by b] or debating
 whether evil is a substance and will it splash on you - y'know, usenet
 stuff. #8-)  The next important questions may be: who goes Borg first?
 Can we get off-planet fast enough to avoid biosphere meltdown?  Whose
 philosophical coalitions will control which moons, which quadrants of
 the asteroid belt and Oort cloud, which paths to galactic expansion?

 Conspiratorialists may blame the upcoming changes on Illuminati or
 Bilderbergers or Jewish/Marxist/Satanist/Reptilioid forces or such.
 Hah.  People with the 

[CTRL] FW: [prj] UN Thugs Place OUR National parks off-limits

[Bard]

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-Original Message-
From: flyingobjects [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 6:30 PM
To: Bard
Subject: Re: [prj] UN Thugs Place OUR National parks off-limits


Best Regards,

Tim

U.N 'Protectorates'

  UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

   1978 Mesa Verde National Park
   1978 Yellowstone National Park
   1979 Everglades National Park
   1979 Grand Canyon National Park
   1979 Independence Hall
   1980 Redwood National Park
   1981 Mammoth Cave National Park
   1981 Olympic National Park
   1982 Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site
   1983 Great Smokey Mountains National Park
   1983 San Juan National Historic Site and La Fortaleza
   1984 The Statue of Liberty
   1984 Yosemite National Park
   1987 Monticello, and the University of Virginia, Charlottesville

   1987 Chaco Culture National Historic Park
   1987 Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
   1992 Pueblo de Taos
   1995 Carlsbad Caverns National Park

  CANADA:

   1978 L'Anse aux Meadows National Historic Park
   1978 Nahanni National Park
   1979 Dinosaur Provincial Park
   1981 Anthony Island
   1981 Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump Complex
   1983 Wood Buffalo National Park
   1984 Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks *
   1985 Quebec (Historic Area)
   1987 Gros Morne National Park
   1995 Lunenburg Old Town

  *The Burgess Shale Site, previously inscribed on theWHL, is part of
the Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks.


   CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

   1979 Tatshenshini-Alsek/ Kluane National Park/
   Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Reserve and   Glacier Bay
NationalPark |
   1995 Waterton Glacier International Peace Park |

  =
  The World Heritage List-- In Danger(selected/partial list)

  UNITED STATES
  Name of Property:Everglades National Park
  Date of Inscription:11/12/1993
  Cartagena, 17th Session of the Committee

  UNITED STATES
  Name of Property:Yellowstone
  Date of Inscription:9/12/1995
  Berlin, 19th Session of the Committee

  YUGOSLAVIA
  Name of Property:Natural  Culturo-Historical   Region of
Kotor
  Date of Inscription:26/10/1979
  Luxor, 3rd Session of the Committee




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[CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

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Just now listening to Kissinger who sez he met with their Editorial Board
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[CTRL] Extraterrestrial Exposure Law

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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"Extraterrestrial Exposure Law"

EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL EXPOSURE LAW

Already Passed by Congress On October 5, 1982, Dr. Brain T. Clifford of the

Pentagon announced at a press conference ("The Star", New York, Oct. 5,
1982)
that contact between U.S. citizens and extra-terrestrials or their vehicles

is strictly illegal.

According to a law already on the books: (Title 14, Section 1211 of the
Code
of Federal Regulations, adopted on July 16, 1969, before the Apollo moon
shots), anyone guilty of such contact automatically becomes a wanted
criminal
to be jailed for one year and fined $5,000. The NASA administrator is
empowered to determine with or without a hearing that a person or object
has
been "extraterrestrially exposed" and impose an indeterminate quarantine
under armed guard, which could not be broken even by court order.

There is no limit placed on the number of individuals who could thus be
arbitrarily quarantined.

The definition of "extraterrestrial exposure" is left entirely up to NASA
administrator, who is thus endowed with total dictatorial power to be
exercised at his slightest caprice, which is completely contrary to the
Constitution.

According to Dr. Clifford, whose commanding officers have been assuring the

public for the last 39 years that UFO's are nothing more than hoaxes and
delusions to be dismissed with a condescending smile: "This is really no
joke, it's a very serious matter." This legislation was buried in the
1,211th
subsection of the 14th section of a batch of regulations very few members
of
government probably bothered to read in its entirety, the proverbial needle

in the haystack, and was slipped onto the books without public debate.

Thus from one day to the next we learn that, without having informed the
public, in its infinite wisdom, the government of the United States has
created a whole new criminal class: UFO contactees.

The lame excuse offered by NASA as a sugar coating for this bitter pill is
that extra-terrestrials might have a virus that could wipe out the human
race. This is certainly one of the many possibilities inherent is such
contact, but just as certainly not the only one , and in itself not a valid

reason to make all contact illegal or to declare contactees criminals to be

jailed and fined immediately.

It appears the primary effect of such a law would not be to prevent
contact,
it would be to silence witnesses. If enforced, the law would prevent
publication of contactee reports except under cover of anonymity, and
unleash
a modern inquisition in the Land of the Free. However, it is unenforceable,

so obviously absurd and unfair that the public will refuse to accept it.
The
citizens of the United States will greet it with a resounding Bronx cheer
and
laugh it out of court, forcing it to be repealed.

It should be replaced by clearly worded legislation, not open to
interpretation in a multitude of different ways, humanely relevant to the
contingency of E.T. contact, debated and passed by Congress openly instead
of
slipped through "under the table" without the public being informed.

According to NASA spokesman Fletcher Reel, the law as it stands is not
immediately applicable, but in case of need could quickly be made
applicable.
What this means is that it is ambiguously worded, so that it can be
interpreted either one way or the other, as the government desires.

It is certainly not a coincidence that Dr. Clifford held his press
conference
during the period when the popularity of the film E.T. was at its peak. As
E.T. portrayed a type of extraterrestrial that was benevolent and lovable,
the inference is that the press conference was intended to discourage
attempts to communicate or fraternize with UFO occupants. However, instead
of
having the intended effect, it backfired, causing public furor. There may
be
some relationship between this fiasco and the next semi-officially endorsed

attempt to deal with the subject of extra-terrestrials, the TV film V,
which
was featured with repeat performances and maximum publicity by major
networks
worldwide. The aliens portrayed in V are the most horrifying and repulsive
nightmares imaginable, who are defeated thanks largely to a CIA hit man
specializing in covert operations, the tough guy with the heart of gold who

with the aid of the handsome hero saves the human race. This is obvious and

transparent propaganda, designed to do what the government's widespread use

of dis-information, and Dr. Clifford's press conference about the absurd
lemon of a law already on the books failed to do: squelch attempts to
communicate or fraternize with UFO occupants.

One way to avoid widespread panic at the announcement of the news that we
are
under surveillance by nonhuman intelligent beings with a technology far
more
sophisticated than our own is to point out that this situation is nothing
new, but has literally been going on for millennia.

If the "flying dragons" mentioned in the I Ching intended to attack and

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1

[ric carter]

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 990717a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No persecuted prophets went on hegira during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ 'Orbs' in photographs, THE TRUTH. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Analog sys) wrote:
  Ever wonder what those glowing balls are that appear in some people's
  photographs that they say are ghosts or aliens? Truth is it's nothing but
  dust and fibers, (like spider silk) close to the lens and out of focus.
  The on camera flash highlights them and makes them appear to be round, or
  in the case of fiber's, a streak of an 'orb' that appears to be blinking
  and traveling thousands of miles per hour. But don't take my word for it.
  Anyone can find such things in their own back yard. Go to this web page
  and have a look: http://members.aol.com/Analogsys/index2.html

: Is this merely disinformation spread by an operative of The Conspiracy?
Have you ever been captured/manipulated/mistreated by an Orb? Was it fun?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MYSTERY OF FLIGHT 800: THREE YEARS AFTER CRASH, QUESTIONS LINGER. Today is
  the 3rd anniversary of the crash of TWA Flight 800, which exploded off the
  Long Island coast, killing all 230 aboard. To many, the crash remains one
  of the greatest mysteries in aviation history. The tragedy will be marked
  by a memorial service and monument dedication. Friction remains between
  investigators and airline: http://cnn.com/US/9907/17/twa.flight.800/

: What's your favorite TWA800 conspiracy theory? Were/are you an operative
in any TWA800 conspiracy? Who directed your actions? What's your motivation?

# JFK JR.'S PLANE MISSING OF U.S. EAST COAST. A search is under way for a
  missing plane believed to be piloted by John F. Kennedy Jr., the son of
  the assassinated president. The plane -- with Kennedy, its owner, at the
  controls -- left a private airport in New Jersey Friday night en route to
  Martha's Vineyard, and failed to arrive. Last seen on radar off eastern
  Long Island: http://cnn.com/US/9907/17/kennedy.plane.03/index.html

: Why are planes disappearing off eastern Long Island? What's the connexion
between TWA800, JFK/Jr, Montauk, Dulce, HAARP, Backfire, Reticulans, Waco?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# FBI probes possible hate crime links. SACRAMENTO (UPI) Feds are exploring
  links between white supremacist violence in the Midwest and hate crimes
  against Jews and homosexuals in northern California. Investigators think
  the recent firebombing of 3 Sacramento synagogues and the slayings of a
  Redding area gay couple may be related to shootings in Illinois  Indiana.
  FBI agents are probing contacts between two brothers held in the Redding
  killings and white supremacists elsewhere, especially the World Church of
  the Creator: http://news.excite.com/news/u/990716/16/news-hatecrimes

: Does your belief system promote murder? Would you mind being murdered by
members of opposing belief systems? Do you deserve to be murdered? Would you
rather be tortured, abducted/implanted/experimented by aliens, fed to rats?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Carlos the columnist. (BBC) Carlos the Jackal, a self-styled professional
  revolutionary serving a life sentence for terrorism, is turning his hand
  to being a newspaper columnist. Next, he'll get a spot on Drudge's show:

# Also: Carlos the Jackal - three decades of crime:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/newsid_42000/42244.stm
@ Links: La Razon: http://www.razon.com/
@ Carlos the Jackal: http://users.andara.com/~bpaul/carlos.html

: Who are your favorite revolutionary terrorists? Are they entertaining, ed-
ucational, fulfilling? Should they all have their own columns and TV shows?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Japan Sponsors Egypt's First Solar Power Project. CAIRO (Reuters) Japan is
  to sponsor Egypt's 1st solar power station, to start producing electricity
  by 2001. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/07/science-egypt-solar

# Stone Age Tools, Paintings Found In Red Sea Caves. CAIRO, Egypt (Reuters)
  An Egyptian-Belgian archaeological mission has found a cave with remains
  dating back to 7,000 BC at al-Qoseir on Egypt's Red Sea coast. The team
  found a collection of Stone Age tools, including axes, scrapers, knives
  and awls made of granite, as well as wall paintings of animals, birds and
  boats. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/01/science-egypt-cave

: Were the Pyramids built as solar power stations? What alien technology is
hidden by Egyptian archaeologists? Are the Japanese trying to muscle in?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ "Reality Check" e-magazine: http://fp.bio.utk.edu/reality
@ Resources for survivors  co-survivors of ritual abuse, incest and/or
  mind control: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Resource-List.htm

# Police Arrest "Robin Hood" - but "Merrie Men" escape:
  

Re: [CTRL] THE HISTORY OF THE STANDARD OIL COMPANY

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

Read what was written and what you posted.

90% control does not mean output.

Dogmatic blindness?

This propaganda nonsense about
monopolies and 'Robber Barons' is bunk.

Whether they be 'staged' or productive monopolies, the activities of
corporate interests has been detrimental towards the common good.

One's Robber Baron is anothers boss, another's father.

Yes, there are many sides and ways to perceive, but by their fruits ye shall
know.

The basic thrust of Goats post was right on and shows how political, economic
and social forces are used by "interests" to advance their self-interests.

MHO

OM
K

In a message dated 7/17/99 7:02:22 AM, you wrote:


This is total and absolute nonsense:

Das GOAT wrote:
snip

1901
"The Spindletop [oil] gusher in Beaumont, Texas, gives
 John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Trust its first
 major competition.  The Beaumont Field contains more
 oil than the rest of the United States combined ... The
  Gulf Oil Co. has its beginnings as [the investors] get
  backing from [Anglophile] banker Andrew W. Mellon ...
 "More than half the world's oil output is from Russia's
  Baku fields developed by Ludwig Nobel, brother of
  dynamite inventor Alfred Nobel, and by
snip

   1902:
   "'History of the Standard Oil Company' by Ida Minerva Tarbell
appears in McClure's magazine installments, revealing that
John D. Rockefeller controls 90 percent of US oil-refining
capacity ... US Steel Co. has two-thirds of US

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[CTRL] [*EXCLUSIVE*] they let it happen, OKC bombing [*EXCLUSIVE*]

[Bard]

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http://www.4bypass.com/feature.htm


Fed Informant Documents Treason in OKC Bombing

As a self-confessed "international importer and domestic transporter," Cary
Gagan, 54, admits that he is "no choir boy." But neither is he a
cold-blooded killer, he is quick to add. As a government informant with an
immunity grant, he took every step he could to help the federal government
stop the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, of which he had solid prior knowledge,
but "they let it happen," says Gagan.

"They" were the FBI, the United States Attorney, and many agents of the U.S.
Marshals Service.

On March 13, Mr. Gagan gave a two-hour deposition before a newly formed
citizens committee known as the Oklahomans for Truth. A court stenographer
and videographer were present.

Upon viewing the tape, Denver whistleblower Stewart Webb said, "These
well-documented charges amount to no less than treasonous acts by those
sworn to ‘defend and protect against all enemies foreign and domestic.’
These people should be tried and, if found guilty, swiftly executed."

Prosecutors would later make a big noise about the ANFO bomb being built at
Geary Lake State Park in Kansas. (Count 35 of the eventual indictment reads:
"On or about April 18, 1995, at Geary Lake State Park in Kansas, McVeigh and
Nichols constructed an explosive truck bomb with barrels filled with a
mixture of ammonium nitrate, fuel and other explosives placed in the cargo
compartment of the rental truck.")

But it is Cary Gagan’s testimony that he, under instructions from a federal
agent, deliver a mixer and what he believes to have been bombing materials
to a service station in Dwight, Kansas, on April 10, nine days prior to the
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[CTRL] OEN 7/17/99

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from:
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Currency Markets

Is the Upward March of the Mighty Dollar Near an End?

All those capital flows: borrowed money


Movements in the world's big three currencies - the dollar, the euro and
the yen - are critical to global stability. Of late, the euro has
grabbed the headlines by sinking close to parity with the dollar,
prompting Wim Duisenberg to hint that interest rates might rise in an
attempt to talk up the currency. The yen has also attracted attention,
with the Bank of Japan forced to intervene heavily to prevent it from
strengthening further. Yet it is the potential for a prolonged fall in
the dollar that is set to become the really big issue in the currency
markets.


The fall in the euro is not a sign of the failure of the single currency
project, but a reaction by investors to economic weakness and low
interest rates (as well as a correction to an outbreak of pre-euro
euphoria at the end of last year). Growth in the euro-zone remains
sluggish, particularly in Germany and Italy. There are some signs of
improvement, but as yet these are too tentative to have an impact on the
currency.


In fact, the economic boost provided by euro weakness is helpful at this
stage of the recovery. Which makes Mr Duisenberg's comments on Thursday
all the more puzzling. With inflationary risks absent across most of the
euro-zone, his statement that the European Central Bank is moving
towards a bias to tightening can only have been an attempt to talk up
the exchange rate. As such, it is unlikely to succeed. Speculation of a
rise in rates is not credible (though further rate cuts now look less
likely). His remarks also add to a damaging impression that Europe's
politicians and central bankers are divided over how to react to the
euro's fall. Mr Duisenberg and his colleagues should be patient; as the
European economy recovers, so the euro will bounce back.

The yen also rises


Looking at the latest Japanese growth figures, one might be tempted to
conclude that just as the euro-zone economy is weakening the euro, so
the strength of the Japanese economy is putting upward pressure on the
yen. The truth is not so simple. There is much scepticism over the
annualised growth rate of 7.9 per cent for the first quarter. There are
still many signs of economic weakness. Another supplementary budget to
prop up the economy looks a virtual certainty later in the year - and as
Japan's fiscal position deteriorates further, a slump in the bond
markets cannot be ruled out.


The yen's strength has been driven mainly by western investors looking
to cash in on the wave of restructuring hitting corporate Japan. Tiring
of bloated western stock markets, investors have been rushing in their
droves to the Japanese market; the Nikkei index has risen a remarkable
37 per cent this year, compared with a rise in the Dow Jones index of
just over 20 per cent. But there is still uncertainty over how far
restructuring will go; so far there has been rather more talk than
action. A series of poor economic figures, or signs of delays to the
reform process, could see Japan fall out of favour pretty quickly.

The dollar marches on


Against this background, the strength of the US dollar looks
unassailable. The high-growth, low-inflation paradigm appears intact,
with the consumer price index up just 0.1 per cent in June. The prospect
of higher interest rates is also an attraction for investors. Even the
pound, which tends to move in tandem with the dollar, has been left
trailing in its wake. But it is still strong against most other
currencies, meaning that the prospect of a fall in the pound is a
serious inflationary risk.


But the exceptional performance of the US economy masks economic
imbalances elsewhere. The private-sector deficit (the gap between
savings and investment) reached 4.2 per cent of gross domestic product
last year, as booming stock markets have encouraged households to save
less. This deficit has been financed in part by the budget surplus
[budget surplus? What budget surplus?--Orlin] and in part by capital
inflows. These inflows have resulted in a current account deficit (the
inverse of a capital account surplus), and a strong dollar. With the US
economy set to slow, and the rest of the world recovering, sooner or
later either capital flows will become less forthcoming or the private
sector will readjust its savings.


The closest parallel is probably the period between 1982 and 1985, the
main difference being that the deficit was in the public rather than the
private sector. Then as now, huge capital inflows financed the deficit
and kept the dollar strong. But after 1985, the dollar slid into a
decline which lasted 10 years.


Dollar weakness looks a distant prospect now. Yet that is what the
economic fundamentals are pointing towards; the appetite of investors to
fund America's yawning current account gap 

[CTRL] Fwd: Heads Up - UK TV

[Kris Millegan]

Heads - UP
United Kingdom Terrestrial TV Programs
Saturday 17th July 1999

All times are local time GMT
===

Channel 4 @ 19:30 hrs.
Secrets of the Gobi Desert;
Examination of the treasure trove of pre-historic relics
hidden in the region.
Following the work of palaeontologist Mike Novacek.
---

Channel 4 @ 20:30 hrs.
Walking on the Moon: Mission Impossible;
Part 2 of this anniversary series.
Gemini begins a detailed background story of the Moon landing
of 30 years ago.
Werner von Braun's contributions are detailed in "Reputations"
on BBC 2 at 21:00 hrs.
---

BBC 2 @ 21:00 hrs
Reputations: Wernher von Braun:
The programme, subtitled "From the Nazi's to NASA" says it all.
Prussian born Dr von Braun was father of the space age, his Saturn
rockets propelled Apollo 11 to the Moon. Yet to quote a French POW,
who faced torture in Germany's underground research tunnels to developing
his V-2 rockets for Hitler, "He was a son-of-a-bitch... He knew what
was happening to those prisoners; He even helped to recruit them."
In spite of his Nazi past, the fact that von Braun secretly offered his
entire rocket research team and the blueprints o the Americans, stood
in his favour - as did his almost messianic zeal to get America into space.
--

Channel 4 @ 21:30 hrs.
Real Time Apollo: The Apollo 11 Mission,
including news reports from the time.
--

Channel 4 @ 01:15 hrs (Sunday AM early)
Treasure: A new series looking at bizarre collections
--

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[CTRL] George magazine

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I just tried to pull up www.georgemagazine.com  got an Oops: Wrong
Address! along with a disclaimer saying that just because someone owns
a trademark, the fact that your browser points to it does not make you
guilty of copyright infringement. sigh of relief!

My husband says George magazine went under a few months ago.


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Apparently a conspiracy of silence is erupting on AOL!

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[CTRL] JFK Jr. I've figured it out!!!!!

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Here's the scenario:

3 years ago, TWA Flight 800 went down off the coast of Martha's
Vineyard--4 days before the 3 Tenors (Carreras, Domingo, Pavarotti) did
a concert at Giant's Stadium. JFK Jr. was at that concert; I saw him
there (this was before Carolyn Bessette). The 3 Tenors are doing a
concert at Detroit's Tiger Stadium tonight, and what happens? JFK's
plane disappears off the coast of Martha's Vineyard! Coincidence?

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: TWA800 Cover-up Continues

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...and tho the story is still 'breaking' (and the family seems strangely
silent), the search continues for JFK Jr's plane

Is it just coincidence that it disappeared -- presumed went down -- in
the relatively same area as TWA800, ON THE 3RD ANNIVERSARY?

And why is the Pentagon so keen on joining in the search so quickly?


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Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

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People who are going to write and propagate the JFK Jr. was murdered are sick.

They reveal that their minds are in the gutter.

They are to be disregarded.

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[CTRL] Humor: Administratium

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Danial Nightwolf sent to PLANETNEWS:

[Most of us have a burning desire to have AdministratiumIs it human
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[Investigators at a major research institution recently discovered the
heaviest element known to science and have tentatively named it
Administratium.]

Administratium has no protons or electrons, thus having an atomic number
of 0.  It has, however, 1 neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice
neutrons and 111 assistant vice neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of
312.

These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the
continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons.  It is also
surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert.  However, it can be
detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes into contact
with.

According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium causes
one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would normally
have occurred in less than a second.

Administratium has a normal half-life of approximately 3 years; it does
not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of
the assistant neutrons, vice neutrons, and assistant vice neutrons
exchange places.  In fact, an Administratium sample's mass will actually
INCREASE over time, since with each reorganization some of the morons
inevitably become neutrons, forming new isotopes.  This characteristic of
moron
promotion leads some scientists to speculate that Administratium is
spontaneously formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in
concentration.  This hypothetical quantity is referred to as the
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2

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SkeptiNews 990717b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Hey, SkeptiChat subscribers: let's see some responses, some discussion!!
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Some celebs may have been assassinated during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Japanese cops raid cult over forgeries. Japanese police yesterday swooped
  on the Aum Supreme Truth doomsday cult - responsible for a 1995 sarin gas
  attack on Tokyo's subways - raiding 27 properties around Japan. Among the
  sites raided were the home of two children of cult leader Shoko Asahara,
  who is on trial on 17 charges including masterminding the nerve-gas attack
  that killed 12 people and injured thousands. Cops said the raids concerned
  suspected forgeries over land purchase in Kawakami, near the mountain city
  of Nagano, home to the 1998 Winter Olympics. Gov't ministers are trying to
  ban the group. http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/1999/0717/wor3.htm

: Does your doomsday cult own much property? Are you influential in social/
political/economic circles? Will you continue whether the world ends or not?
Is a gov't trying to ban your cult? Is your cult trying to ban a gov't? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# JAPAN ILL-PREPARED FOR SUICIDE EPIDEMIC. Japan is facing an epidemic of
  suicide, and the government seems to have no clue as to how to confront
  the problem. It seems to me that they will need to overcome a cultural
  bias against talking about emotions to really deal with the crisis.
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14310

: Is the Japanese suicide pandemic a cultural artifact, the result of mind-
control experiments, or merely aliens harvesting humans expeditiously? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Company Hopes Gene Trawl Will Bring In Big Catch. ROCKVILLE, Md. (Reuters)
  When a fisherman goes out to sea, he may have an idea of what kind of fish
  he would like to catch but he will usually take whatever turns up in the
  net. But when Human Genome Sciences Inc. (HGS) computers trawl through the
  human genome, they know precisely what they want to find. "We ask first
  what disease we want to cure." Many groups are racing to sequence, or map,
  the mass of genes  other genetic material that makes up the human genome.
  One reason to search is to find causes of diseases  possible new ways to
  treat or prevent them. But unlike others, HGS sees no reason even to look
  at the small fry. The firm's future is staked on the premise that they can
  pick a disease -- say, cancer -- think of a way to fight it -- maybe by
  stopping uncontrolled cell growth -- then find a gene that will do that.
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990716/01/science-health-genome

: How much money could you make by developing a new disease and its cure at
the same time? Isn't that easier than finding cures for existing diseases?
Wouldn't that help the aliens harvest more humans too? Do they give bonuses?
Which new diseases are entrepreneurial efforts? Are AIDS  ebola blackmail?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# PRAYERS VS. PROTESTS. Tehran (UPI)  Iran's religious leaders used prayer
  services to blame the U.S. and "Zionist circles" for the recent string of
  nationwide protests, and called on the populace to show support for the
  gov't. Official sermons in Tehran said defending the Islamic revolution is
  "an irrefutable obligation." "All of us who accept the supreme religious
  jurisprudence and the leadership should define the limits through under-
  standing before the norms are breached, the sanctities transgressed upon
  and the very principles of the Islamic revolution are put under question,
  all of which would lead to making the enemy jubilant," a prayer leader
  said. http://news.excite.com/news/u/990717/00/international-prayers

: Do your deities politically support your self-appointed leaders? Are your
political foes damned to Hades? Is theocracy fun, especially for theocrats?
Would you rather breech norms, transgress sanctities, jubilize enemies???
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Space-O-Rama:

# Ukrainian Rocket Blasts Off From Kazakh Space Base. MOSCOW (Reuters) A
  Ukrainian rocket launched from Kazakhstan's Baikonur space base Saturday,
  the second launch after the Kazakhs lifted a ban on blast offs. Sufficient
  bribes: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/03/science-space-kazakhstan

# Vital Mir mission lifts off. (BBC) A supply mission vital to ensuring the
  Mir space station does not crash to Earth has launched from Baikonur
  base. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_396000/396349.stm

# Also: Mir finds its leak:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_39/390965.stm
# Crash warning over Mir:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_393000/393011.stm
# Proton worry for space station:
  

Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

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Deepdude, You are quite shallow

Now, now. Let's be civil. After all, the poor guy is just doing his job.
Just because he is working against us doesn't mean he's not a fellow
worker. He's just working for the wrong side, that's all. We should strive
to convince him of the error of his allegiences. He has time on his hands
and a modem. We could use a guy like that on our side. He's being used and
should know it. Wise him up.

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Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

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The ownership of human beings also takes many forms.  Slavery is just the
one that can be most clearly observed.


For the real bird's eye lowdown on the history of slavery in Africa, check
out Dahomey. In some ways the Dahomians were ahead of their time. They
had, for example, a fully co-ed military a century before Americans even
began the experiment. They were among the best armed on earth, Africa'
Prussians as it were, but co-ed. They made up for low number not only by
arming women, but by staying in the forefront  of technological
innovation. If anybody on earth came up with a better killing machine the
Dahomians immediately bought the best made, most reliable brand on the
market and issued it pronto. For a while their tactical use of automatic
weapons led the world's in development, a good twenty years ahead of
Europe. Like history's other most successful  co-ed military, the Sarmatae
and the Massagetae, they kicked butt wholesale where ever they fought.
While the Sarmatae and the Massagetae are best remembered for their
resistance to imperialism and the Dahomians for furthering it, both
nevertheless exemplify the righteous principal "Fight one of us, fight us
all." There's a lesson to be learned here.

But if you want to know about slavery in the New World, read Redneck
Manifesto by Jim Goad. Goad sure did his homework. In a nutshell, he
demonstrates conclusively that MOST Americans are descended from slaves
and that for Black folks to blame "whites" for their history is even more
out of line than Jews monopolizing the Holocaust, and for the same reason.
It flies in the face of the numbers. It's also stupid because it further
divides us natural allies. And anybody who thinks that all white people
have it easy because some white people have it easy is just not paying
enough attention. White working people and working people Of Color Have
more in common than not. Virtually everything in our lives that matter to
us is exactly the same for both of us.  All this current talk about race
(and, I would add, about gender) is a diversion. The real divide in
American society, in world society, is class. Racism and sexism are both
FORMS of classism.

It's not working class whites who live in homonymous, often gated,
communities. It's the RICH, both liberal and conservative. Us working
stiffs live together, work together and actually get along fine, because
even the dumbest among us realize we need each other. Besides, it's not
like we had any choice in the matter, is it? Those gates cost big money.

"Middle" class IS working class. The color of your collar and the color of
your skin pale equally next to the color of your money. We all bleed  red
and we all face a pink slip. If you HAVE to work, you're a slave.

Goad, by way of  tracing the etymology of the term "redneck" back to the
early sixteenth century English planter derogatory term for their white
slave "redlegs" on  Barbados, and by way of an analysis of serfdom much
like that in the brilliant "Rent is still theft" post yesterday, shows how
the European concept of slavery has gradually evolved, has roots thousands
of years deep, and has afflicted and continues to afflict white people
wholesale. The prime reason for switching gradually over to the use of
Africans as chattel was technical and not ideologic. The runaways were
easier to spot in a crowd. The ideology of genetic superiority came later,
mostly as a justification, less as a motivation.

Calling your ancestors "indentured servants" and promulgating the myth
that most came here willingly and were "free" after seven years is both
intellectually dishonest and ultimately self defeating. Chattel slavery
and bond slavery are two sides of the same coin.

On this last point Goad and I disagree. The way I see it, chattel slavery
and bond slavery are one side of the coin. Wage slavery is the other.
Break it down to smaller change and we have rent slavery, debt slavery,
consumerism and military conscription both statutory and economic.

There are only three classes: masters, slaves and outlaws. The small print
doesn't matter. And since technically outlaws are merely runaway slaves,
there are really only two classes, masters and slaves. It will be this way
as long as we practice classism. It is easy to see classism  as a purely
economic function because economics is its most obvious manifestation. But
class is not about economics. Economics is about class. Class is about
dominance and submission. Dominance accrues wealth because submission
gives it up.  Capiesc'?

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Re: [CTRL] THE HISTORY OF THE STANDARD OIL COMPANY

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Kris Millegan wrote:
 Read what was written and what you posted.
 90% control does not mean output.
 Dogmatic blindness?
MJ:
Standard Oil's market percentage PEAKED at 88%.
Reaching such a level is NOT a monopoly NOR does it
imply/infer/mean such a level was sustained for
any length of time.


MJ:
 This propaganda nonsense about
  monopolies and 'Robber Barons' is bunk.
Kris Millegan wrote:
  Whether they be 'staged' or productive monopolies,
  the activities of corporate interests has been
  detrimental towards the common good.

MJ:
There are two (2) types of monopoly; coercive and natural.
Coercive REQUIRES Government to ensure its existence, the
other has NEVER existed.

Kris Millegan wrote:
 One's Robber Baron is anothers boss, another's father.
 Yes, there are many sides and ways to perceive, but by
 their fruits ye shall know.

The basic thrust of Goats post was right on and shows
how political, economic and social forces are used by
"interests" to advance their self-interests.

MJ:
EVERY decision by EVERY individual is made in their self-interest.


Regard$,
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #3

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SkeptiNews 990717c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Hey, SkeptiChat subscribers: let's see some responses, some discussion!!
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Some genetically modified crops were harmed to produce of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Gene-Mod-O-Rama:

# World May Go Non-GM Says Campaigner. LONDON (Reuters) World agriculture
  may still reject biotechnology, says a leader of the organic movement.
  And pigs could fly if they only had wings, especially gene.mod pigs, eh?
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/01/science-environment-gene

# Stunted GM crop may 'help feed world'. (BBC) The plant gene behind the
  1960s "green revolution" of dwarf varieties has been revealed and could
  benefit farmers again. Anti-GM activists prefer mass starvation, plague:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_394000/394616.stm

@ Links: John Innes Centre: http://www.jic.bbsrc.ac.uk/
@ Food Future: http://www.foodfuture.org.uk/
@ Friends of the Earth: http://www.foe.org.uk/
@ Biotechnology/BiologySci Research Council: http://www.bbsrc.ac.uk/

# UK Minister Tells GM Firms Public Comes First. LONDON (Reuters) British
  Environment Minister Michael Meacher warned genetic food manufacturers
  Saturday he would not be pressured into "riding rough-shod" over safety
  procedures designed to protect the public interest. Then he hacked up a
  hairball: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/09/science-britain-gm

: What's your favorite genetically engineered food? Was the bioengineering
done by selective breeding, hybridization, or more invasive means? Is there
a qualitative difference between such different biological technologies???
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Chinese sect's protest leads to apology - Secretive movement that disturbs
  Beijing dislikes `cult' label. (NYTimes) BEIJING - Nearly 1,000 members of
  a spiritual movement known as Falun Gong held a 2-day protest inside gov't
  headquarters in a southern Chinese city last week. Undeterred by a recent
  crackdown on Falun Gong in Beijing, where China's leaders appear alarmed
  by the size, organization  secretive nature of the movement, the members
  entered the inner courtyard of Communist Party HQ in Nanchang, the capital
  of Jiangxi province for two days and demanded the retraction of an article
  in an official publication that likened Falun Gong, or Buddhist Law, to a
  superstitious cult. Ignoring the danger implied in official warnings, they
  refused to leave until a gov't official finally disavowed the article.
  Victory: http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/world/docs/china11.htm

: Does your cult intimidate the Chinese Communist gov't, or any other gov't?
How much power do you wield? Do you use your power for good or evil? Why??
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SkeptiBriefs:

# US Firm Warns Of Y2K Scams. WASHINGTON (Reuters) A research firm predicted
  that someone will steal more than one billion dollars in a scam linked to
  year 2000 computer upgrades and that companies may lose billions. Watch
  out: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/01/science-yk-fraud

# PIN-HOLE GLASSES DON'T CURE VISION PROBLEMS. These novelty "pin-hole"
  glasses will help you see - due to the "pin-hole" effect - but they
  won't permanently cure a vision problem. So save your money.
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14312

# Russian journalist denies treason. (BBC) A journalist says treason charges
  against him have been fabricated in revenge for his exposure of environ-
  mental pollution by Russia's Pacific fleet. They're out to silence him:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_396000/396336.stm

# THIS WEEK ON THIS WAY OUT - Best-selling gay African-American novelist E.
  Lynn Harris invites you to "Abide With Me", award-winning gay journalist
  Bruce Mirken about how he beat an Internet sting, and Utah lesbians  gays
  declare war on the Mormon Church for declaring war on them. In NewsWrap,
  Sir  Elton John recovers from heart surgery, New Hampshire high schoolers
  sue to establish a Gay Straight Alliance, Norway's World Cup team captain
  comes out on the front page: http://www.planetout.com/radio/programs/two/

# Frenchman Found Penicillin First. PARIS (Reuters) A Frenchman may have
  discovered penicillin 30 years before Scotsman Sir Alexander Fleming, sez
  author: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990717/09/science-health-penicillin

# US ALLOWS WIGGLE-ROOM FOR STEM CELL RESEARCH. Federally-funded researchers
  may have been given a loophole so they can use human embryo stem cells for
  research. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14314

# Crystal Chip Uses Chemistry For Speed. WASHINGTON (Reuters) Techno-nerds
  have taken a big step toward making tiny, super-fast molecular computers.
  Whizzing by: 

[CTRL] Fwd: (en) RENT-A-COP EXPLOSION IS A SYMPTOM OF CAPITALIST EXPLOITATION

[nessie]

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  A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
http://www.ainfos.ca/
 

By The Leveler Editorial Collective


According to the California Department of Consumer Affairs, there were
169,841 rent-a-cops in California in December 1998; more than twice the
number of State and local cops and County Sheriffs.  1/3 of those were
licensed in Los Angeles County!  State-wide, 1/6 of the rent-a-cops are
licensed to carry guns while in Los Angeles County, 1/4 are licensed to
carry guns.

In an economy where everyone wants "experience" to hire you, but no one
wants to train you, pay you a decent wage, or give you benefits like
basic health care, security guard jobs are a dead-end trap for the poor.
Most rent-a-cops are paid minimum wage.  You can get a little more if you
work in a fancy office building, but carrying a gun on the job neither
gets you good money or benefits 9it just makes you a TARGET!).  The
highest paid rent-a-cops are ex-cops who work for highly specialized
companies who provide security for movie shoots or rich people.  There
are very few of them.

Many rent-a-cop companies will hire you off the street if you don't have
a criminal record and get you a "guard card" (state license) for a fee,
but you soon find out that you have to work all hours (there are 3 shifts
in a 24-hour day) and you are disposable, like garbage.  All you have to
do to loose your job is get sick.  Rent-a-cop companies are milking you
as a "cash cow."  All they want is a body in a polyester uniform with a
plastic badge sitting in a lobby, walking in a parking garage or standing
in front of a store.  Beyond that, you are expendable.  The job is so
mind-numbing that a lot of people get a edon't give a shit" attitude
about it as soon as they figure out that the company thinks you're stupid
and doesn't care about whether or not you do a good job, but will give
you a hard time if your bus is late getting you to work or your car
breaks down (if you can afford a car).  The pay for rent-a-cops is so
low, that those with families usually work an additional job.  For most
of those who work as rent-a-cops, it is a dehumanizing experience on the
same level as janitors and parking attendants who also work for
contracted companies.

Rent-a-cops, like the military, are an example of the Rich turning
Working Class people against each other by exploiting unemployment and
the shortage of jobs.  A Millionaire Capitalist once bragged that he
could hire half the Working Class to KILL the other half.  This is
probably not true since the majority of rent-a-cops are not "Gung Ho"
about their jobs, many are in school or training to get a better job and
most wouldn't risk their life for rent-a-cop pay.  The minority who are
"Gung Ho" are macho fanatics, many with fantasies of being cops, who
can't get into the Police Academy.  These are the people who give
rent-a-cops a bad name.  They are the ones who delude themselves into
thinking that they can kiss ass to get ahead.  These are the ones who
would oppose a Union because they side with the bosses against their own
fellow workers.  Historically, this is the type of person who murdered
fellow workers on the picket line, who joined up with fascist gangs and
who joined Death Squads in places like Chiapas, Mexico and Columbia to
murder the poor.  These people give all rent-a-cops a bad name and it is
usually them who are randomly KILLED on the job.

We can expect an explosion of rent-a-cops now that the capitalists want
to put us all under 24-hour surveillance.  It is a symptom of the disease
of capitalism that the rich get richer and, since there are no decent
jobs where a person could hope for a life, they are stuck protecting the
ill-gotten gains of the rich.  Our advise for the rent-a-cops is: "Don't
be a SLAVE!"  If you have to eat shit to pay your rent, go to school on
the side so you can eventually get a job with a future.  Security guards
are just cannon fodder for the Class War of the future.  Don't be a
victim.  Don't let the System keep you down.  Don't risk your life for a
minimum wage job!

For those who don't know:

1.A security guard's "powers of arrest" are limited to making a
"Citizen's Arrest."  They must then wait for real cops to show up and
take you into custody.
2.You can't be charged with "trespassing" unless the owner of a property
or their legal representative (like someone from the owner's property
management company) tells you to leave the property and you refuse.
3.In California, there is something called "Public Access."  As long as
you are not harassing anyone or damaging anything, you can't get kicked
out of common areas people need to pass through to go to stores in a mall
or shopping center.  The law also allows you to hand out leaflets in
these areas.  It is considered "free speech."
4.Rent-a-cops can't carry weapons unless they pass a class in the 

Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

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People who are going to write and propagate the JFK Jr. was murdered
are sick.

I'd say this remark is a bit premature--he hasn't been found dead OR
alive at the time of this writing (2:34pm EDT).
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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #3

[Bill]

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 US: Silver Bullet Or Poison Chalice: The Biowar Against
  Drugs

 Newshawk: Tom O'Connell
 Pubdate: June, 1999
 Source: Scientific American (US)
 Page: 75
 Copyright: 1999 Scientific American, Inc
 Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Website: http://www.sciam.com/
 Note: This short article appeared as a side bar on a
longer article,
 "Biologicel Warfare Against Crops," by Paul Rogers,
Simon Whitby, 
 Malcolm Dundo, all biological warfare experts from
Bradford University
 in England.
 SILVER BULLET OR POISON CHALICE: THE BIOWAR
 AGAINST DRUGS
 Last year the U.S.  Congress approved a $23-million
antidrug program
 that includes research on plant pathogens.
 Among the target plants are those that produce
narcotics such as
 cocaine, heroin and marijuana.
 Advocates of the program hail it as a potential
breakthrough.
 Representative Bill McCollum of Florida, one of the
co-sponsors of the
 legislation, said, "All of the indications are that
this has the potential for
 making a big difference in the drug war  This could
be the silver
 bullet."
 Article I of the 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons
Convention
 (BTWC) bans the development, production and stockpiling
of biological
 agents intended "for hostile purposes or in armed
conflict." Also
 outlawed are biological weapons "that have no
justification for
 prophylactic, protective or other peaceful purposes."
Proponents of the
 use of plant pathogens against drug crops therefore
point out that they
 would be used in cooperative proqrams with states in
which the drugs
 are produced.
 Opponents of the plans have three concerns.
 One is that induced epidemics might, in some
circumstances, spread to
 other plants.
 Another is that plant pathogens could be used in
drug-proclucing regions
 without the consent of the state in question.
 Whereas such use might be popular with antidrug
agencies, it would
 almost certainly breach the BTWC and also set a
dangerous precedent.
 The greatest concern, however, is that the development
of a capability
 to destroy drug crops with plant pathogens will
inevitably provide a
 wealth of knowledge and practical experience that could
readily be
 applied in much more aggressive, offensive biological
warfare targeting
 food crops.
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Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Aol user wrote:

People who are going to write and propagate the JFK Jr. was murdered are sick.

They reveal that their minds are in the gutter.

They are to be disregarded.

Well, since at the time I'm typing this, they aren't even officially
admitting that the plane went down...let alone that Kennedy is dead...
your complaint seems a tad premature...

But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in
roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of
that tragedy...

And it seems a tad strange that the PENTAGON within a few hours holds a
press conference announcing that they are mounting a major search effort
for him...after all, JRK Jr. IS just a civilian...


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Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

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Slavery was not a cultural institution unique to Africa or to the
Americas.

Slavery was an integral feature of the ancient world (Greece, Rome,
the Assyrian Empire, the Egyptian civilizationand it was practiced by
a variety of different groups throughout history--Scandanavians, Celts,
Moors, Slavs, Germanic tribes, indigenous groups in the Americas..etc.)

As an economic/political/social/cultural institution it varied in terms of
its severity, depending upon a variety of factors.

The slavery that was practiced by less well-developed agricultural groups
(like those found in sub-Saharan Africa) was different from the slavery
that developed in the Americas, in terms of its inhumanity.  Slaves in
Africa could marry, participate in the social and political life of their
culture...and they could own property.  It was a very complex institution
varying from place to place in Africa.  Also, in the Islamic regions,
female slaves would marry their masters and their children would be
recognized as being free.  The institution was still deplorable and no one
today can make a compelling defense of it.

But when Europeans began interacting with these indigenous groups in
Africa, they brought the profit motive into the picture.  In exchange for
weapons, whiskey, the manufactured goods of Europe and America, African
chieftains sold the Europeans captured tribesmen of rival groups, who were
considered trophies of war.

And as the whites demanded more and more slaves, the African chieftains
found it expedient to increase their warlike forays against their
neighbors, going deep into the interior in search of fresh captives to
satisfy American/European demands for "black ivory."  One of the results
of the
European intrusion into Africa was a marked increase in the amount of
bloodshed on the African continent.  The European presence destabilized
these indigenous groups in such a manner that what had been essentially
a minor aspect of African life, became an essential feature  it.

The extent of the decimation of these African populations is not known,
but entire villages were destroyed.

The horror of the middle passage...the packing of human beings into the
holds of ships...much of the misery associated with American-style slavery
was a direct result of the American interest in profitability.

When Mr. Sobran claims that "conventional textbook history" is teaching
white Europeans created slavery and imposed it on black Africa, I don't
know what he could be referring to.  I can't think of any American
historian who would make that outlandish claim.




On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Bard wrote:

 http://www.uexpress.com/ups/opinion/column/js/text/1999/06/js9906152413.html

 THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY | Joseph Sobran | June 15, 1999

 WASHINGTON -- Conventional textbook history teaches that white Europeans
 created slavery and imposed it on black Africa. This myth is designed to
 make white Americans feel so guilty that they will give up their own rights
 in the name of "civil rights."

 Whites did acquire African slaves and maintained the slave trade. But the
 institution pre-existed the white man's relations with Africa. In fact, even
 after slavery had been abolished in white civilization, the European
 colonial powers had great difficulty in eradicating it in Africa, where it
 stubbornly persisted among the natives. As in ancient Greece and Rome,
 slavery was built into the economic life of African tribes, who knew little
 (and cared less) about Abraham Lincoln.

 In his 1921 book, "Among the Ibos of Nigeria," G.T. Basden noted that
 Nigerian tribes acquired slaves by four methods: "capture in war,
 kidnapping, purchase and pawning." Captives taken in war "were either killed
 and eaten, or sold as slaves, or set aside to serve as human sacrifices."
 Anyone venturing out of his own village risked being ambushed, enslaved and
 maybe devoured. (It's hard to imagine Robert E. Lee eating his slaves.)

 Children were often taken in midnight raids on villages. Raised as the
 slaves of other tribes, they usually grew up without knowing where they were
 born or who their parents were. Moreover, slaves were often mutilated,
 blinded or crippled to prevent flight.

 Sometimes, Basden relates, people pawned their children into slavery to
 satisfy even trivial debts. Theoretically this was temporary, but it rarely
 worked out that way: "A child thus disposed of is, in fact, seldom redeemed.
 None of his kin would be sufficiently interested or unselfish to subscribe
 the money for such a purpose. It follows that a child so pawned remains a
 slave for life, and any offspring born to him are slaves from birth."

 Did the slaves revolt? Rarely. Basden affirms: "I have never met a slave who
 hankered after or even expressed a desire for freedom. Indeed, in instances
 where the possibility of freedom has been suggested to young men they have
 indignantly refused to consider the proposal. On one occasion I talked at
 length on 

[CTRL] Forbes Flees Radical Party.

[William Shannon]

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--
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Forbes confirms switch to Democratic Party
Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Associated Press





By SHANNON McCAFFREY

QUOGUE, N.Y. (July 17, 1999 2:46 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Rep.
Michael Forbes, a New Yorker with a strong independent streak, said Saturday
that he is bolting a Republican Party that has become "a captive of
extremists" so he can join a more open Democratic Party.

"The Republican Party over the last 4-1/2 years has been defined through the
actions of its extremists in the House of Representatives," Forbes said in
announcing his decision at a news conference at his Long Island, N.Y., home.

"It has become an angry, narrow-minded, intolerant and uncaring majority,
incapable of governing at all, much less from the center, and tone-deaf to
the concerns of a vast majority of Americans."

Forbes said he talked over his decision in a personal, private meeting and
also met with House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. An aide said Hastert tried
to persuade Forbes to stay in the GOP.

In Washington, President Clinton welcomed the new Democrat.

"Michael Forbes has changed parties because he believes it is best for his
constituents, for the people of New York and for our country," Clinton said
in a statement. "He is joining a party that welcomes independent thinking and
the courage to change."

A switch would provide a huge psychological boost for Democrats, who need to
gain only a half-dozen seats in next year's elections to be assured of
winning control of the House.

Forbes, 47, defeated a Democrat in 1994 to win his seat, one of more than 70
GOP first-termers who helped usher in a Republican majority in the House for
the first time in 40 years. He was rewarded with a prized seat on the
Appropriations Committee, a panel with enormous influence over federal
spending.

Forbes supported the Contract With America in 1995, and has carved out a
generally conservative voting record, opposing abortion and voting in 1996 to
repeal the ban on certain semiautomatic assault-style weapons.

Last year, he voted in favor of all four impeachment charges brought against
President Clinton.

At the same time, he has sided with environmentalists on some issues, and
voted to raise the minimum wage in 1996.

He infuriated the GOP leadership in 1997 when he refused to vote for former
Rep. Newt Gingrich's re-election as speaker, citing concerns over a
just-completed ethics investigation.

His defection on that vote was followed by a snub from party regulars, who
promptly disinvited him from a dinner honoring outgoing Republican National
Committee chairman Haley Barbour.

In late 1998, though, Forbes' stock in the House GOP moved up sharply, the
result of his close ties to Rep. Bob Livingston, the Louisiana Republican who
was briefly in line to succeed Gingrich as speaker.

Forbes' standing plummeted overnight when Livingston renounced the
speakership after admitting to past extra-marital affairs.

He would be the first congressional Republican to switch to the Democrats
since the GOP gained a majority in both the House and Senate six years ago.

Republicans hold 223 seats in the House; Democrats have 210. There is one
independent and one vacancy following the death on Thursday of California
Democratic Rep. George Brown.

Five House Democrats switched to the GOP in 1995, and two Democratic senators
have done likewise in the last few years.

Forbes is the second Republican to leave his party in less than a week. On
Wednesday, Sen. Bob Smith, R-N.H., running at the back of the pack in the
race for the GOP presidential nomination, became an independent.

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Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr. I've figured it out!!!!!

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Tenorlove wrote:
Here's the scenario:

3 years ago, TWA Flight 800 went down off the coast of Martha's
Vineyard--

You're a couple of hundred miles off...

It went down well west of Martha's Vineyard, at approximately the
midpoint and south of Long Island...

The graphics they're showing on the local southern CT and NYC news
indicate that they think JFK Jr's plane went down at approximately the
midpoint of Long Island, but off the North Shore, in the Mattituck
area...if that's the case, the plane would be in Long Island Sound, not
the Atlantic...


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So many things you want to see
And as you ask I'll set you free
But as you fly
You'll touch the sky
And touch the heart
Within me

  Fly away.


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: (en) RENT-A-COP EXPLOSION IS A SYMPTOM OF CAPITALISTEXPLOITATION

[Bill]

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If anyone is interested to see how badly surveillance has
been perpertrated (I LOVE THAT WORD) on the American
populace, take a look at the sharp rise in Pinkerton and
Wackenhut stocks during the eighties up til now...its
incredible...the lock down is secure and no matter how you
fight their slavery they own the government they own big
business, they own education, AND THEY OWN YOU!
Bill

nessie wrote:

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   A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
 http://www.ainfos.ca/
  

 By The Leveler Editorial Collective
 

 According to the California Department of Consumer Affairs, there were
 169,841 rent-a-cops in California in December 1998; more than twice the
 number of State and local cops and County Sheriffs.  1/3 of those were
 licensed in Los Angeles County!  State-wide, 1/6 of the rent-a-cops are
 licensed to carry guns while in Los Angeles County, 1/4 are licensed to
 carry guns.

 In an economy where everyone wants "experience" to hire you, but no one
 wants to train you, pay you a decent wage, or give you benefits like
 basic health care, security guard jobs are a dead-end trap for the poor.
 Most rent-a-cops are paid minimum wage.  You can get a little more if you
 work in a fancy office building, but carrying a gun on the job neither
 gets you good money or benefits 9it just makes you a TARGET!).  The
 highest paid rent-a-cops are ex-cops who work for highly specialized
 companies who provide security for movie shoots or rich people.  There
 are very few of them.

 Many rent-a-cop companies will hire you off the street if you don't have
 a criminal record and get you a "guard card" (state license) for a fee,
 but you soon find out that you have to work all hours (there are 3 shifts
 in a 24-hour day) and you are disposable, like garbage.  All you have to
 do to loose your job is get sick.  Rent-a-cop companies are milking you
 as a "cash cow."  All they want is a body in a polyester uniform with a
 plastic badge sitting in a lobby, walking in a parking garage or standing
 in front of a store.  Beyond that, you are expendable.  The job is so
 mind-numbing that a lot of people get a edon't give a shit" attitude
 about it as soon as they figure out that the company thinks you're stupid
 and doesn't care about whether or not you do a good job, but will give
 you a hard time if your bus is late getting you to work or your car
 breaks down (if you can afford a car).  The pay for rent-a-cops is so
 low, that those with families usually work an additional job.  For most
 of those who work as rent-a-cops, it is a dehumanizing experience on the
 same level as janitors and parking attendants who also work for
 contracted companies.

 Rent-a-cops, like the military, are an example of the Rich turning
 Working Class people against each other by exploiting unemployment and
 the shortage of jobs.  A Millionaire Capitalist once bragged that he
 could hire half the Working Class to KILL the other half.  This is
 probably not true since the majority of rent-a-cops are not "Gung Ho"
 about their jobs, many are in school or training to get a better job and
 most wouldn't risk their life for rent-a-cop pay.  The minority who are
 "Gung Ho" are macho fanatics, many with fantasies of being cops, who
 can't get into the Police Academy.  These are the people who give
 rent-a-cops a bad name.  They are the ones who delude themselves into
 thinking that they can kiss ass to get ahead.  These are the ones who
 would oppose a Union because they side with the bosses against their own
 fellow workers.  Historically, this is the type of person who murdered
 fellow workers on the picket line, who joined up with fascist gangs and
 who joined Death Squads in places like Chiapas, Mexico and Columbia to
 murder the poor.  These people give all rent-a-cops a bad name and it is
 usually them who are randomly KILLED on the job.

 We can expect an explosion of rent-a-cops now that the capitalists want
 to put us all under 24-hour surveillance.  It is a symptom of the disease
 of capitalism that the rich get richer and, since there are no decent
 jobs where a person could hope for a life, they are stuck protecting the
 ill-gotten gains of the rich.  Our advise for the rent-a-cops is: "Don't
 be a SLAVE!"  If you have to eat shit to pay your rent, go to school on
 the side so you can eventually get a job with a future.  Security guards
 are just cannon fodder for the Class War of the future.  Don't be a
 victim.  Don't let the System keep you down.  Don't risk your life for a
 minimum wage job!

 For those who don't know:

 1.A security guard's "powers of arrest" are limited to making a
 "Citizen's Arrest."  They must then wait for real cops to show up and
 take you into custody.
 2.You can't be charged with "trespassing" unless the owner of a property
 or their legal representative (like 

Re: [CTRL] THE HISTORY OF THE STANDARD OIL COMPANY

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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Thank you, Goat, for the excellent post. I couldn't agree more!
Best wishes,
Wm

On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Kris Millegan wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Read what was written and what you posted.

 90% control does not mean output.

 Dogmatic blindness?

 This propaganda nonsense about
 monopolies and 'Robber Barons' is bunk.

 Whether they be 'staged' or productive monopolies, the activities of
 corporate interests has been detrimental towards the common good.

 One's Robber Baron is anothers boss, another's father.

 Yes, there are many sides and ways to perceive, but by their fruits ye shall
 know.

 The basic thrust of Goats post was right on and shows how political, economic
 and social forces are used by "interests" to advance their self-interests.

 MHO

 OM
 K

 In a message dated 7/17/99 7:02:22 AM, you wrote:

 
 This is total and absolute nonsense:
 
 Das GOAT wrote:
 snip
 
 1901
 "The Spindletop [oil] gusher in Beaumont, Texas, gives
  John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Trust its first
  major competition.  The Beaumont Field contains more
  oil than the rest of the United States combined ... The
   Gulf Oil Co. has its beginnings as [the investors] get
   backing from [Anglophile] banker Andrew W. Mellon ...
  "More than half the world's oil output is from Russia's
   Baku fields developed by Ludwig Nobel, brother of
   dynamite inventor Alfred Nobel, and by
 snip
 
1902:
"'History of the Standard Oil Company' by Ida Minerva Tarbell
 appears in McClure's magazine installments, revealing that
 John D. Rockefeller controls 90 percent of US oil-refining
 capacity ... US Steel Co. has two-thirds of US

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[CTRL] From Eugenics to Assassination--part 1

[Linda Minor]

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from:
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Subject: British Psychiatry  Eugenics/Assassination From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sale) Date: 1996/12/28 Message-Id:
5a3cug$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Uknown Newsgroups:
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British psychiatry: from eugenics to assassination

by Anton Chaitkin

A behavior control research project was begun in the 1950s, coordinated by
the British psychological warfare unit called the Tavistock Institute, with
the Scottish Rite Masons, the Central Intelligence Agency, and other
British, U.S., Canadian, and United Nations agencies. The project became
famous in the 1970s under a CIA code name, ``MK-Ultra.'' Its notoriety for
brainwashing by drugs, hypnosis, electroshock, and other tortures caused
many books to be written about the project, and the U.S. Senate conducted
hearings which exposed many of its abusive features. President Gerald Ford
appointed a commission headed by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, to
correct the CIA's misconduct. There was a widespread anti-establishment view
at the time, that here was the fox appointed to guard the hen house. The
intelligence agencies offered a public rationale for the project: the need
to counteract and compete with the mind-control capabilities of the
communists. This was largely based on the fact that U.S. personnel held
prisoner by the enemy in the Korean War had signed false confessions of
crimes, and some had defected to North Korea, the apparent result of
brainwashing. {The Manchurian Candidate,} a 1959 book which was made into a
popular movie in 1962, reflected this rationale. It told the story of a
communist plot to use a U.S. soldier brainwashed in Manchuria as a
zombie-assassin, to kill the leading U.S. presidential candidate. A central
theme of MK-Ultra was to attempt to control the human mind in a similar way.
Threatened and accomplished assassination of political leaders has become
increasingly frequent in public life since the 1960s. Just since the 1992
election campaign, for example, President Bill Clinton has been the target
of at least 15 assassination threats. Many of these would-be killers, and
many of the assassins of past years, had been in destructive psychiatric
programs, or were members of psychiatrically manipulated cults. The present
threats are the more meaningful, in the context of the British-led
Whitewater scandal directed against the presidency. It is long past time for
a thorough public inquiry into the assassination epidemic, whereby its
relationship to the official project to {create assassins} would be fully
explored. A great obstacle to clear thinking in this area has been the
assumption that the U.S. government would not sponsor programs for the
murder of American leaders. This logical assumption misses the point, that
the overall project, including ``MK-Ultra,'' has been foreign-sponsored and
anti-American in its purposes. We shall outline here the British background
of this deeply criminal enterprise, with its roots in the political and
psychiatric movement called eugenics.

- 1909-13: the buildup to World War I -

John D. Rockefeller created the family-run {{Rockefeller Foundation,}} in
parallel with the birth of the British-inspired Federal Reserve, the
Internal Revenue Service, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In
1909-13 and subsequent years, Rockefeller transferred blocs of the
family-owned Standard Oil Co. worth more than $300 million to the account of
the foundation under its trustees who were family members, and their
employees. Thus was established a global instrument for radical social
change, using American money and British strategy. John D. Rockefeller had
begun his oil business in the 1860s with British capital. The family's
relationship to the British Empire a half-century later was centered in the
person of John D. 's brother {{William Rockefeller,}} the president of
Standard Oil of New York (later Mobil) and the founder of National City Bank
(later Citibank). In 1911, brother William employed, in a private capacity
through his elite social club, a high-ranking British secret intelligence
service officer named Claude Dansey. As the United States prepared to ally
itself in World War I with its old enemy Britain, Dansey personally
reorganized the U.S. Army intelligence service into an adjunct of the
British secret service. Dansey's loyal U.S. follower, {{Gen. Marlborough
Churchill}} (a distant relative of Britain's Winston Churchill) soon became
director of U.S. military intelligence. After World War I, General Churchill
headed up the ``Black Chamber,'' a New York-based espionage group serving
the State Department, the U.S. Army, and private New York financiers loyal
to Great Britain. This same General Churchill would soon launch a medical
research organization, the Macy Foundation, for the Rockefellers and British
intelligence.

- 1920s: the pre-Hitler era in Germany -

The Rockefeller Foundation poured money into 

[CTRL] Matthew Josephson

[William Hugh Tunstall]

 -Caveat Lector-

Josephson was both an excellent writer and an honest reporter, showing the
undeniable achievements of the early capitalists, while at the same time
showing the serious instabilities that they started to produce in society.
On the one hand there are the largest modern industries and America's
acceleration towards the position of leading world power, and on the
other, the fact that the essential institutions of society were
collapsing.

It was Vanderbilt who said, "What do I care about the law? Hain't I got
the power?"

Josephson traces Rockefeller's switch from being the largest to the only
oil refiner came in secret agreements with the Erie, Pennsylvania, and New
York Central railroad "pools" whereby he and refiners invited to join the
Standard Oil Trust.  Those who joined the Trust had their freight rates
reduced by up to 50% whereas competing refiners had their rates increased
by 100% with half of this being paid straight back to Standard Oil by the
railroads.  Within three months his remaining 25 competitors surrendered
to him and he fixed all US oil sales at a new high price.

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[CTRL] Wackenhut (pt. 1)

[nessie]

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This originally appeared on the WELL:




PAY YOUR MONEY, TAKE YOUR CHANCE

As long as we refuse to protect ourselves and each other, we are at the
mercy of a legal system whose very business is crime, and a lucrative
business it is. By this point in history, all but the most naive of us
have stopped expecting cops, public or private, to all behave like Boy
Scouts. There has been simply too much hard evidence to the contrary. In
that murky gray zone where law enforcement overlaps with organized crime,
an underground empire has arisen. It is a world where the so-called "War
on Drugs" is often a war on rival drug dealers, and always a war on the
poor. It is a world where "national security," excuses war crimes and
genocide is a commodity. It is a world where justice is for sale and cops
are for rent. Cops, rent-a-cops in particular, vary widely in quality.

A family business, Wackenhut Corp. was founded in 1954 by a one time FBI
man George R. Wackenhut. His son Richard, a Citadel graduate, is president
and CEO. The immediate family hold over 50% of the stock The rest is
divided among just 1100 stockholders. Wackenhut stock is traded on the New
York Stock exchange. Buy a share, and you will receive a fascinating
brochure. The company's revenue has grown from just $300,000 in 1958 to
nearly half a billion today. It is one of the largest private security
firms in existence.

Wackenhut specializes in security contracts. Government contracts are
best, of course, and the company's remarkable growth is due on no small
part to George Wackenhut's relationship to certain government officials.
His first big break came when he secured a contract to watch over Titan
missile sites in four states. Since then, security and public safety
functions have proven a lucrative focus. Wackenhut provides security
guards for such high-risk installations as the trans-Alaska pipelines,
major airports both in the United States and abroad, dams and the nuclear
test site in Nevada. It also owns a casualty reinsurance firm, a travel
service, and an airline services company. The Department of energy
provides 25% of Wackenhut's total gross. Their operatives also serve
friends of the U. S. Govt. and Big Oil (like the fugitive Shah of Iran),
abroad as well as at home.

Wackenhut personnel guard the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve Sites
in Louisiana and Texas. From time to time, they can be seen around the
complexes, dodging alligators, and exchanging laser gunfire with soldiers,
local police and sheriff's deputies. This is just practice to prepare for
real trouble, such as terrorists. Wackenhut touts it's supposed
anti-terrorist expertise. James_P._Davis, who manages the site for
government contractor Boeing, declares: "I pity anybody who tries to
invade here. It would be tougher than Fort Knox." That is arguable. The
government itself concedes that the security could be beefed up. But the
analogy to Fort Knox is fitting. There is gold here, too, only it's black.
Never forget the Golden Rule: "Gold rules."

Wackenhut often recruits ex-police and military men who don't require a
fresh background check. Cutting this corner (at $30,000 to $40,000 apiece)
has allowed the employment of a number of unsavory characters, including
infamous navy spy John Walker.  When Wackenhut operatives were caught
recently in the public spotlight by court allegations of illegal
surveillance, Associated Press reports that they were staunchly defended
by their employer in the case, the president of Alyeska Pipeline Service
Co., James B. Hermiller. Alyeska is a consortium of seven oil companies
including Exxon Corp., owners of the Exxon Valdez. They are also long time
Wackenhut clients. During the spill, industry security mounted an armed
"bear patrol" to "keep grizzlies from rolling in the contaminated sand."
They kept potential witness from the spill scene. Alyeska lies about clean
up. State studies have confirmed that contaminants -- including
carcinogens such as benzene and toxic materials such as heavy metals --
are ending up in the waters and sediments of Port Valdez. Happy dining,
crab lovers. Alyeska also lies about the carcinogen content of the
atmospheric pollution they inflict on their neighbors. Breath deep, Valdez.

Few of it's victims are any longer surprised that Big Oil lies. Internal
documents to that effect (and worse) were leaked by Aleyska employees to
long time industry gad-fly, professional tanker broker Charles Hamel The
whistle blowing employees were afraid to let their names be used. Charley
Hamel was not. At least one regulatory action, a $20,000 fine proposed by
the EPA in August, 1992 against Alyeska for illegal waste-water dumping,
is attributable to information provided by Hamel.

One former employee, Robert Scott, has filed a complaint with the U.S.
Labor Department charging that Alyeska illegally fired him for leaking
information that detailed problems with vapor-emission.

"This is not a knock down and kill you 

[CTRL] Wackenhut (pt. 2)

[nessie]

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Lack of proper training has been a Wackenhut trademark for years. The
reduction in cost provided by cutting this corner enables Wackenhut to
deliver their admittedly reduced services at substantial savings to
organizations who value a penny saved over the lives of their employees
and customers, and to individuals who put a price on the life of their
families. The spate of terrorist attacks against Americans and their
allies, during the Gulf War included some pesky snipers in Saudi Arabia.
Was the House of Saud safe? According to the Jonathan Littman, the Saudi
ruling family negotiated (at least) with Wackenhut over a contract for
security at Crown Prince Fahd's palace itself. Whether Wackenhut delivered
is not for commoners to know. These negotiations took place by way of the
tiny (but sovereign) band of Cabazon Indians in Southern California. The
Cabazons have also allegedly fronted for Wackenhut's role in the secret
(and illegal) Contra supply scam. Both Wackenhut and the Cabazons prefer
the term "joint venture."

In 1978 the Cabazons hired a certain John Philip Nichols to manage their
finances. This self proclaimed "Doctor of Theology" was reputed to be a
"premier" obtainer of grants. Once he had obtained the Cabazons' trust,
Nichols began proposing an array of projects involving tank cartridges,
laser-sighted assault rifles, portable rocket systems, night vision
goggles and, most ominously, biological weapons. Many of these proposals
grew out of the tribe's partnership with Wackenhut. The Cabazons'
sovereign status, and it's accompanying freedom from costly regulation,
enables great ease in the bidding process.

"I was present at one meeting where Wackenhut people were present. We were
told it was part of the security system on the reservation," said Cabazon
Joe Benitez. "Later on, I found out they were working to develop
munitions. It seemed amazing to me."

It is unclear which, if any, of the deals went through. It is a matter of
court record, though, that in 1985, Nichols pleaded no contest to the
charge of solicitation to murder. He served 18 months. His son, John Paul,
took over as acting administrator of the Cabazons while his father did
time. After his release, Nichols was barred by his felony record from
running any of the reservation's gambling operations. His brother, Mark,
inherited the position of Cabazon administrator. What, if any, role
Wackenhut plays in Cabazon life today is unclear. Wackenhut denies any.
"It turned out that we never got any contracts and, after two years, the
venture was canceled," claims director of public relations, Patrick Cannan
(1-305-666-5656).

Cannan also denied any connection with the so-called "Inslaw case."
Wackenhut's name has come up consistently in relation to claims made by
Michael Riconoscuito that while a research director for a joint venture
between Wackenhut and the Cabazon Indians, he modified a stolen copy of
Inslaw's PROMIS software for sale by Earl Brian to the Canadian
government. Brian is a crony of Reagan's Attorney General, Edwin Meese.
Meese is best known as gutter of the Fourth Amendment, and Wedtech scandal
principal. Another former US Attorney, General Elliot Richardson, is the
attorney for Inslaw. He has been quoted as saying that Inslaw "is far
worse than Watergate." In fact, the Inslaw case does make Watergate look
like a small town parking ticket fix. The press has barely scraped the
surface of this most sordid of scandals, and not without reason. Among the
few honest journalists to poke a nose in this nest of hornets and live to
tell the tale is Jonathan Littman. According to Littman, Riconoscuito was
a "consultant" for Wackenhut. According to Patrick Cannan, Riconoscuito.
was a "hanger on." Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

The Inslaw case stems from the alleged theft of software by the Justice
Dept. from the Inslaw Corp. It has grown from a title and bankruptcy case
into one that includes allegations of sales of the software to foreign
governments (such as Canada, Iraq, South Korea, Libya and Israel) by such
Iran-Contra figures as Robert McFarlane and Richard Secord. The case
attracted more public attention following the apparent suicide death of
journalist Joseph D. "Danny" Casolaro on mid-August in a Martinsburg W.
Va. motel room. Casolaro had told friends that he had made connections
between Inslaw, Iran-Contra and the so-called "October Surprise."
(allegations that representatives of the Reagan-Bush campaign team, headed
by Casey, had convinced the Iranian government to delay release of
American hostages until after the 1980 U.S. elections) Casolaro also
allegedly told his brother that, if he was reported to have had an
accident, not to be believe it. Elliot Richardson has demanded a federal
investigation of Casolaro's death.

Cannan also denied that William Casey was legal counsel to Wackenhut
before joining the government and that former CIA officials Frank Carlucci
and Admiral Bobby Ray Inman 

[CTRL] Private Prisons: Profits of Crime

[nessie]

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From MediaFilter WWW page http://Mediafilter.escape.com

   Private Prisons: Profits of Crime

 By Phil Smith
  from the Fall 1993 issue of Covert Action Quarterly

  Private prisons are a symptom, a response by private capital
  to the "opportunities" created by society's
temper tantrum approach
 to the problem of criminality.

At Leavenworth, Kansas, within a perimeter of razor wire, armed
prison guards in uniform supervise hundreds of medium- and
maximum-security federal prisoners. Welcome to one of America's
growth industries- private sector, for-profit prisons. Here in
the shadow of the federally-run Fort Leavenworth Disciplinary
Barracks and the Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary, the
Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) runs a short-term
detention facility for medium- and maximum-security prisoners.
Under contract to the U.S. Marshal's Service and the Immigration
and Naturalization Service (INS), the CCA Leavenworth facility
is not an anomaly but part of a trend. In the last decade, from
juvenile detention centers to county jails and work farms to
state prison units to INS holding camps for undocumented aliens,
private interests have entered the incarceration business in a
big way. Where there are people detained, there are profits to
be made.

Imprisonment is an ugly business under any regime, but the
prospect of a privatized prison system raises difficult and
disturbing questions beyond those associated with a solely
state-operated prison system. It has been, after all, a common
assumption that the criminalization and punishment of certain
behaviors-the deprivation of physical liberty and even of life
itself-are not amenable to private sector usurpation. Some of
the arguments that inform this assumption are ethi cal, some
legal, and others practical, but all are being chal lenged by a
growing group of special interests.


Prisons for Profit

Surprisingly, private prisons are nothing new
in U.S. history. In the mid-1800s, penny-pinching state
legislatures awarded contracts to private entrepreneurs to
operate and manage Louisiana's first state prison, New York's
Auburn and Sing Sing penitentiaries, and others. These
institutions became models for entire sections of the nation
where privatized prisons were the norm later in the century.
These prisons were supposed to turn a profit for the state, or
at least pay for themselves. Typically, privatization was
limited: The state leased or contracted convict labor to private
companies. In some cases, such as Texas, however, the
corrections function was turned over wholesale to private
interests which prom ised to control delinquents at no cost to
the state. As the system spread, labor and businesses complained
that using unpaid convict labor constituted "unfair"
competition. Of equal concern to reformers-but of less weight to
politicians-was the issue of prisoner abuse under the private
corrections regime. Anecdotal evidence from across the country
painted a grim picture: While state officials remained
indifferent or were bought off by private interests, prisoners
suffered malnourishment, frequent whippings, overwork and
overcrowding. A series of investigations of state prisons
confirmed the tales of horror and produced public outrage. l As
with anti-trust legislation and the progressive reforms which
followed, public pressure impelled government regulation of
private sector abuse. By the turn of the century, concerted
opposition from labor, business, and reformers forced the state
to take direct responsibility for prisons, thus bringing the
first era of private prisons to an end.

Three Trends Converge

But as the twentieth century stumbles to
an end, the hard lessons of a hundred years ago have been
drowned out by the clamor of free market ideologues. Again,
privatization is encroaching ever further on what had been state
responsibilities, and prison systems are the target of private
interests. The shift to privatization coalesced in the mid-1980s
when three trends converged: The ideological imperatives of the
free market; the huge increase in the number of prisoners; and
the concomitant increase in imprisonment costs. In the giddy
atmosphere of the Reagan years, the argument for the superiority
of free enterprise resonated profoundly. Only the fire
departments seemed safe, as everything from municipal garbage
services to Third World state enterprises went on sale.
Proponents of privatized prisons put forward a simple case: The
private sector can do it cheaper and more efficiently. This
assortment of entrepreneurs, free market ideologues,
cash-strapped public officials, and academics promised design
and management innovations without re- ducing costs or
sacrificing "quality of service." In any case, they noted
correctly, public sector corrections systems are in a state of
chronic failure by any 

[CTRL] deadly weapon implants

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 http://www.healthcentral.com/DrDean/Deanfulltexttopics.cfm?ID=13198


 'Vagina Dentata' - In Fact And Folklore

 DR. DEAN EDELL
 June 11, 1999

 I know, teeth in the vagina is an old joke - and I
 never thought I'd be reading something like this on
 my show.  This piece goes back to an article I did
 some time ago about a gynecologist who reported that
 he actually saw some teeth in a vagina.

 Can you imagine?  Day in and day out, nothing but
 pap smears, and then one day you put in the speculum
 and there are some choppers staring back at you!

 Well, that woman had a dermoid cyst.  Dermoid cysts
 are derived from the outer layers of embryonic skin,
 and they are capable of growing hair and teeth and
 bones, anything that comes from the outer layers of
 the embryo.  They can occur anywhere.

 So this woman had one in the pelvic region and the
 cyst grew teeth, and when it ruptured through the
 wall where her uterus joins her vagina - there
 were the teeth.  In my practice once, I saw one
 in the eyelid.

 Well, someone sent me their aunt's thesis on vaginal
 teeth!  I had no idea there was so much about
 vaginal teeth in folklore and literature - it blew
 me away.  It has a name too, "vagina dentata!"

 Apparently this vaginal teeth motif is in myths and
 stories and even jokes all over the world, showing
 up as a symbol of aggression in women, or of weapons
 that they can use to rape and kill men.  In many of
 the stories, apparently the women marry the men who
 detoothed their vaginas and made them safe.

 Here is one example from Koelari, Bastar State:

 "There was a Rakshasa's daughter who had teeth in
 her vagina.  She used to live mostly as a tigress
 and kept ten or twelve tigers with her.  When she
 saw a man, she would turn into a pretty girl, seduce
 him, cut off his penis, eat it herself and give the
 rest of his body to her tigers.

 "One day she met seven brothers in the jungle and
 married the eldest so that she could sleep with them
 all.  After some time she took the eldest boy to
 where her tigers lived, made him lie with her, cut
 off his penis, ate it and gave his body to the
 tigers.

 "In the same way, she killed six of the brothers
 till only the youngest was left.  When his turn
 came, the god who helped him sent him a dream.  'If
 you go with the girl,' said the god, 'make an iron
 tube, put it into her vagina and break her teeth.'

 "The boy did this, and when the tigers came for his
 body he climbed into a mango tree and made himself
 very small.  The tigers chased him and the girl
 became very angry.  He cursed her, 'let nothing but
 your face remain!'  And so it was: she became a
 Chamgedri, which eats, excretes, urinates and
 copulates through one and the same aperture.

 "One of the mangoes opened and the boy crept inside.
 A parrot carried off the mango to a Raja's palace.
 It dropped it, the fruit broke open, the boy
 emerged, and after various adventures, he married
 the Raja's daughter."

 So now you've heard everything.  And you know how to
 not get bitten by women.  If I'd seen this before,
 I would have put it in my book!



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[CTRL] the good old days of laissez faire capitalism

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from
Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle"

"Bubbly Creek" is an arm of the Chicago River, and forms the southern
boundary of the yards: all the drainage of the square mile of packing
houses empties into it, so that it is really a great open sewer a hundred
or two feet wide.  One long arm of it is blind, and the filth stays there
forever and a day.  The grease and chemicals that are poured into it
undergo all sorts of strange transformations, which are the cause of its
name; it is constantly in motion, as if huge fish were feeding in it, or
great leviathans disporting themselves in its depths.  Bubbles of carbonic
acid gas will rise to the surface and burst, and make rings two or three
feet wide.  Here and there the grease and filth have caked solid, and the
creek looks like a bed of lava; chickens walk about on it, feeding, and
many times an unwary stranger has started to stroll across, and vanished
temporarily.  The packers used to leave the creek that way, till every now
and then the surface would catch on fire and burn furiously, and the fire
department would have to come and put it out.  Once, however, an ingenious
stranger came and started to gather this filth in scows, to make lard out
of; then the packers took the cue, and got an injunction to stop him, and
afterward gathered it themselves.  The banks of "Bubbly Creek" are
plastered thick with hairs, and this also the packers gather and clean.

Theere were the men in the picklerooms for instancescarce a one to
these that had not some spot of horror on his person.  Let a man so much
as scrape his finger pucshing a truck in the pickerooms and he might have
a sore that would put him out of the world; all the joints in his fingers
might be eaten by the acid, one by one.  Of the butchers and floorsmen,
the beef-boners and trimmers, and all those who used knives, you could
scarcely find a person who had the use of his thumb; time and time again
the base of it had been slashed, till it was a mere lumpof flesh against
which the man pressed the knife to hold it.  THe hands of these men would
be crisscrossed with cuts, untilyou could no longer pretend to count them
or to trace them.  They would have no nails--they had worn them off
pulling hides; their knuckles were swollen so that their fingers spread
out like a fan.

There were men who worked in the cooking rooms, in the midst of steam and
sickening odors, by artificial light; in these rooms the germs of
tuberculosis might live for two years, but the supply was renewed every
hour.  There were the beef luggers, who carried two hundred pound quarters
into the refrigerator cars; a fearful kind of work that began at four
o'clock in the morning, and that wore out the most powerful men in a few
years.

THere were those who worked in the chilling rooms, and whose special
disease was rheumatism; the time limit that a man could work in the
chilling rooms was said to be five years.  There were the wool pluckers
whose hands went to pieces even sooner than the hands of the  pickle men;
for the pelts of the sheep had to be painted with acid to loosen the wool,
and then the pluckers had to pull out this wool with their bare hands,
till the acid had eaten their fingers off.  There were those who made the
tins for the canned meat; and their hands too, were a maze of cuts, and
each cut represented a chance for blood poisoning.

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[CTRL] America's Mad Deer Epidemic

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronnie Cummins)
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subj: Center for Food Safety News #19 - June 4,1999

 News and Analysis on Genetic Engineering,
 Factory Farming,  Organics
 by: Ronnie Cummins  Ben Lilliston

 America's "Mad Deer" Epidemic:

 A Public Health Time Bomb Set to Explode?

 As we pointed out in an earlier issue (Food Bytes #2, September 24,
 1997), there is increasing evidence that the US has a growing
 number of people coming down with the human equivalent of Mad Cow
 Disease, called CJD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease).  Although the meat
 industry, the blood plasma cartel, and the Centers for Disease
 Control tell us there's no need to worry, that only 250 Americans a
 year are dying from this incurable brain-wasting disease, we remain
 skeptical.  The CDC and the USDA tell us that it's not necessary to
 make CJD an "officially reportable disease" (whereby doctors are
 bound by law to look for it and report all cases to the federal
 government), or to scientifically test farm animals and Alzheimer
 patients for the disease, but mounting evidence indicates that as
 many as 40,000 Americans (or 1% of the nation's 4-6 million people
 diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease or dementia) may actually be
 wasting away with CJD.  See the book Mad Cow USA: Could the
 Nightmare Happen Here? by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton
 www.prwatch.org/  If you want to order Mad Cow USA, send us
 $10 at our office in Minnesota and we'll mail you a copy.

 To call attention to this growing public health hazard and to force
 the government to take action (i.e. to stop the widespread practice
 in industrial agriculture of "animal cannibalism," the feeding of
 waste and diseased animal parts back to animals, and to make CJD
 an official "reportable disease") lawyers at the Center for Food
 Safety filed two legal petitions in Federal Court in Washington
 on January 7, 1999.  For details on the CFS legal petitions see
 www.icta.org

 In Britain and Europe the meat industry's former feeding practice
 of animal cannibalism has unleashed a fatal Alzheimers-like
 dementia that is killing a growing number of young victims who ate
 contaminated beef from mad cows.  Some experts predict hundreds of
 thousands of Britons and other Europeans may die in the decades
 ahead due to the long and invisible incubation period of this
 brain-destroying illness, called "new-variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob
 Disease" (nvCJD).

 Europe has now banned the feeding practices that spread Mad Cow
 and nvCJD.  However, in the U.S. the dangerous practice of "animal
 cannibalism" continues unabated -- with government approval.
 Although the FDA passed a so-called "mammal-to-mammal animal
 feed ban" in 1997, the regulation is filled with loopholes, and,
 according to farmers and ag experts, is not being enforced.
 As Dr. Michael Hansen of the Consumers Union stated in Genetic
 Engineering News in July 1997 [the FDA] "rule exempts swine,
 horses, blood, gelatin and milk from the feed ban... [and] still
 leaves the door open to spreading of a TSE... [Transmissible
 Spongiform Encephalopathy]"

 Heretofore unpublished internal USDA and APHIS (Animal Plant
 Health Inspection Service) documents such as "Bovine Spongiform
 Encephalopathy in the USA" (July 1993) recently obtained by the
 Center for Food Safety under the Freedom of Information Act and
 published on the internet www.mad-cow.org make it clear that the
 US government knows that a form of US Mad Cow Disease is already
 likely present in US cattle and in the food chain.  According to
 government estimates it is likely that at least 36 animals per year
 are slaughtered in the US with Mad Cow Disease.  The Clinton
 administration has prepared an elaborate contingency plan for
 "damage control" once the first US Mad Cow is confirmed.

 As evidence grows that TSEs (Transmissible Spongiform
 Encephalopathies or Mad Cow-like diseases) are infecting sheep,
 deer, elk, and other mammals in the US (including humans) billions
 of pounds of rendered fat, offal, meat and bone meal continue to be
 fed back to cows, pigs, chickens, fish, household pets, and elk and
 deer.  (On so-called deer and elk farms where hunters pay fees to
 shoot them, deer and elk are often fed rendered animal protein).
 Rather than invoking the "precautionary principle" to protect human
 health, the powerful U.S. beef and industrial agriculture lobby has
 convinced the government to issue a watered down feed ban while
 waging war against free speech by lobbying for "food disparagement
 laws" in more than a dozen states, criminalizing the actions of
 those such as Oprah Winfrey and Howard Lyman who have spoken out
 for food safety and warned of an impending Mad Cow-like crisis in
 the USA.

 Although the apparent increase in CJD deaths in the US hasn't yet
 set off a major food safety or public health crisis, The New York
 Times, USA Today, and CNN television have recently reported on an
 emerging epidemic 

[CTRL] the children in the mines (1906)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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from
John Spargo The Bitter Cry of the Children
(1906)

Work in the coal breakers is exceedingly hard and dangerous.  Crouched
over the chutes, the boys sit hour after hour, picking out the pieces of
slate and other refuse from the coal as it rushes past to the washers.
From the cramped position they have to assume, most of them become more or
less deformed and bent-backed like old men...
The coal is hard, and accidents to the hands, such as cut, broken, or
crushed fingers, are common among the boys.  SOmetimes there is a worse
accident: a terrified shriek is heard, and a boy is mangled and torn in
the machinery, or disappears in the chute to be picked out later smothered
and dead.  Clouds of dust fill the breakers and are inhaled by the boys,
laying the foundations for asthma and miners' consumption.

I once stood in a breaker for half an hour and tried to do the work a
twelve year old boy was doing day after day, for ten hours at a stretch,
for sixty cents a day.  The gloom of the breaker appalled me.  Outside the
sun shone brightly, the air was clear and the birds sang in chorus with
the trees and the rivers.  Within the breaker there was blackness, clouds
of deadly dust enfolded everything, the harsh grinding roar of the
machinery and the ceaseless rushing of coal through the chutes filled the
ears.  I tried to pick out the pieces of slate from the hurrying stream of
coal, often missing them; my hands were bruised and cut in a few mintues,
I was covered from head to foot with coal dust.

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[CTRL] Jane Addams's children

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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Jane Addams founded Hull House as a place to help immigrants trying to
adjust to American life.  Eventually over four hundred Hull HOuse's
appeared throughout the country inspired by Addams.  Her efforts at the
time were deemed "communistic."

from
Twenty Years at Hull House

Our very first Christmas at Hull House, when we as yet knew nothing of
child labor, a number of little girls refused the candy which was offered
them as part of the Christmas good cheer, saying simply that they "worked
in a candy factory and could not bear the sight of it."  We discovered
that for six weeks they had worked from sevemn in the morning until nine
at night, and they were exhausted as well as satiated...

During the same winter three boys from a Hull House clubw ere injured at
one machine in a neighboring factory for lack of a guard which would have
cost bust a few dollars.  When the injury of one of these boys resulted in
his death, we felt quite sure that the owners of the factory would share
our horror and remorse To our surprise, they didnothing whatever, and
I made my first acquaintance then with those pathetic documents signed by
the parents of working children, that they will make no claim for damages
resulting from "carelessness."

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[CTRL] St. Peter the displaced

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:05:11 EDT
 July 17, 1999
 CHIAPAS, MEXICO: ST. PETER THE DISPLACED

 The day of celebration began early with 5:00am firecrackers and music.  It
 was the Festival of St. Peter, patron saint of Chenalho county.  CPTers had
 been invited to join in the festivities and see how these indigenous Mayan
 brothers and sisters put on the biggest celebration of the year.

  At 8:30 am the mass began with a gathering on the highway at the entrance
 to the community and a colorful procession to the canopy-covered open-air
 chapel in the valley below.  Men, women and children knelt on the
 hard-packed dirt floor for a full 30 minutes while an elder from the
 community conducted a traditional prayer ceremony, complete with incense and
 music played on rustic hand-hewn string instruments, flutes and drums.

 More than 1000 members of Las Abejas from all over Chenalho county crowded
 in and around the chapel to participate in 22 baptisms, 16 first communions,
 and 3 weddings.

  This was the first celebration of the patron saint to be held in Acteal.
 Normally, everyone would go to the municipal capital for the day.  However,
 the Jesuit priests who minister to the communities have been banned from
 entering the town of Chenalho.  Instead, the municipal authorities have
 invited a priest who has been officially de-frocked by the bishop to run
 the church in town.

  The day's reflection focused on the common suffering of the Apostle Peter
 and the people of Chenalho.   Peter was martyred as were 45 Abejas in
 Acteal; Peter was jailed as were 5 members of the Abejas early in the
 formation of their organization; and now, the brand new statue of St. Peter
 brought to Acteal with such tender ritual, was displaced from his original
 home (in the Chenalho church), as are 2000 members of Las Abejas.

  When it came time for the offering, they didn't pass the plate.  Instead,
 different groups were invited to offer symbols of solidarity to the
 community gathered there.  The leadership council of Las Abejas offered a
 pine sapling to be planted in honor of their beloved catechist, Alonso, who
 was among those massacred on December 22, 1997.  Mexicans visiting from
 several states offered a small white flag tied to a palm branch as a symbol
 of their hopes for peace.   CPTers, representing the international
 community, offered a poster in Spanish produced by Mennonite Central
 Committee with text by CPT Steering Committee Chair John Stoner which reads,
 "Un Pequeno Paso Hacia la Paz: Que los Cristianos de Todas las Naciones Se
 Comprometan a No Matarse Los Unos a Los Otros." ("A Modest Proposal for
 Peace: Let the Christians of the World Agree That They Will Not Kill Each
 Other").  CPTer Kryss Chupp explained, "We consider that you, Las Abejas,
 are at the forefront of this path, following in the footsteps of Jesus and
 Peter, showing today's Christians what it means to refuse to kill."

  The five-and-a-half hour mass was followed by a special meal and lots of
 music and dancing until the wee hours of the morning.  CPT Reservist Lisa
 Martens commented, "It was such an honor to accompany people who have
 suffered beyond comprehension in so beautiful a celebration."

  Current Mexico team members include: Kryss and Kori Chupp (Chicago, IL);
 Wendy Lehman (Kidron, OH), Lisa Martens (Brandon, MB), Frank Moore (Houston,
 TX), Lisette Sanabria (Guaynabo, Puerto Rico), and Pierre Shantz (Elmira,
 ON).

 ___
 Christian Peacemaker Teams is an initiative among Mennonite and Church of
 the Brethren congregations and Friends Meetings that supports violence
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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] July 17th.... JFK, JR and TWA 800 Too Coincidental to be Accidents

[Kris Millegan]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

July 17, 1999

Another Anniversary Message?

Every news broadcast is covering the disappearnce of John F. Kennedy, Jr. He
was piloting a small plane, which just happened to be following a flight path
earily similar to that of TWA 800. The plane is missing.

Three years ago,  to the day, TWA 800 was blown out of the sky!

July 17th, is one day before the infamous Chappaquidick "accident" that ended
Senator Edward Kennedy's chance of ever becoming president. Residents of
Chappaquidick reported to authorities hearing a loud "explosion" at about the
time the airplane of JKF, Jr. was expected to be overhead.

Shortly after the crash of TWA 800, Pierre Salinger was given the "real
story" about what happened to TWA 800... how it was shot down and why.
Salinger scheduled a press conference to report the story. Minutes before he
was to have delivered information that would have rocked the world to its
knees, he was told,
to forget about the true story, "... or the young King is dead!"

The young king was John F. Kennedy, Jr.

Pierre Salinger was handed another press release, not the one that he was
going to deliver. Salinger saved the life of JFK, Jr by releasing
disinformation at his press conference. To this day, the whole truth about
TWA 800 has never been told.

Already news outlets are beginning to talk about the connection between the
disappearnce of JFK, Jr. and the death of Princess Diana.

The United States Air Force has been sent by the President to join the
search. Never before has the United States goverment joined in the search of
a private airplane. Why did President Clinton send the Air Force out to
locate JFK, Jr's missing plane? Conspiracy theorists will postulate that the
government has not been sent out to find and rescue Kennedy and his party,
but to make sure they are dead.

When Secretary of Commerce Ronn Brown's plane crashed in Yugoslavia, there
was a mysterious helicopter that made the first contact with the crash site.
Was this the helicopter that rescued the only survivor, the flight attendent
who had no visible signs of major injury when she was loaded on board the
helicopter. The flight attendent bled to death on the way to the hospital.

Many months later, a mysterious bullet wound was found in the top of the head
of Secreatry of State Ronn Brown. Did the mysterious helicopter that was
first on the crash scene find Ronn Brown alive? Was he assassinated to keep
him from telling the true story about Chinese money coming into the DNC?
Brown's former girldfriend and real estate partner seems to think so. At the
time of the discovery of the bullet wound in Brown's head, every African
American member of
Congress demanded that this be investigated.

To this day, the bullet wound in the head of Ronn Brown has not been fully
investigated. The brave military pathologists who performed the autopsy and
reported the wound, have seen their careers ruined and their lives smeared.


"Hi,  we're from the Government and we're here to help!"
When the United States government is dispatched to a crash scene, do not
think they are there to help the survivors. They are usually there to insure
that the truth is never known.

Rumor Mill News is searching their past files for stories related to TWA 800,
the brief "affair" between Princess Diana and John F. Kennedy, Jr.; the
warning given Pierre Salinger, and Kennedy's "sudden marriage". As soon as
these stories are located, and scanned, they will be presented. Stay tuned
for more breaking news.

To be placed on the Rumor Mill News One List mailing list, click  on this
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The following is information on TWA 800 and the two people who have triedthe
hardest to expose the coverup.

Yesterday, two people who have done the most to expose the cover up of the
downing of TWA 800, were given probabtion instead of being sentenced to 10
years in prison.

--Couple gets probation in Flight 800 theft

"Today, (July 17th) is the third anniversary of the explosion that killed 230
people aboard the Paris-bound flight."
 A HREF="http://twa800.com/news/sentence.htm"sentence/A
Sanders Sentence 07.17.99
UNIONDALE, N.Y. (AP) - A couple was sentenced Friday to probation for
 conspiring to steal bits of seat material from the reconstructed remains of
 TWA Flight 800.
 James Sanders, 53, a self-styled investigative reporter, and his wife
 Elizabeth, 52, had faced up to 10 years in prison.

 ``I feel much better now,'' Mrs. Sanders said outside the courtroom, a day
 before the third anniversary of the explosion that killed 230 people aboard
 the Paris-bound flight.

 Sanders, author of the 1997 book ``The Downing of TWA Flight 800,'' was
 given three years probation and 50 hours of community service. His wife, a
 former TWA employee, received one year probation and 25 hours of community
 service.

 The two were convicted in April of 

[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] Post #2---Was JFK, Jr. Preparing to Run For the NY Senate Seat?

[Kris Millegan]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From Ru Mills, Editor of Rumor Mill News

Post # 2 on the Disappearance of John F. Kennedy, Jr.

The major news media is now stating the John F. Kennedy, Jr. is missing and
presumed dead. Already RMNew's phone and fax have been ringing off the hook
with people speculating that he has been assassinated. If this is true, there
must be a reason.

When analyzing any suspicious death one has to ask the three main questions:

Was there MOTIVE?
Was there MEANS?
Was there OPPORTUNITY?

If someone can  confirm the information that was given to RMNews by a reader
who, in the past,  has provided accurate information, we will have the
motive. The other two, means and opportunity  are easily obtained if you
happen to be part of a Criminal Government.

On Friday, July 16, 1999 I had a conversation with a person who has provided
RMNews with accurate information in the past. This person is not one of our
government inside sources. She told me she had heard:

John F. Kennedy, Jr. was getting ready to announce his plans
To run for Senator from New York!

I did not pay a lot of attention to her information and quickly changed the
subject to other things. The reason I did not react or pay attention to the
information was because I knew Hillary was going to run for Senate from New
York, and I figured that JFK, Jr. was planning on running for the seat now
occupied by Senator Shumer, which would be in four to five years.

In light of the tragic and sudden turn of events, I now wonder if JFK, Jr.
was going to challenge Hillary for the Democratic nomination, or if he was
getting ready to announce as  a third party candidate. Both the Reform Party
and the Green Party would have welcomed him with open arms.

John F. Kennedy, Jr. was charismatic enough to have formed his own party and
attracted the younger vote from all parties, not just the two major ones. As
such, he would have been a formidable candidate in any election,

In light of the warning that my sources from within government gave me on
July 15, 1999, I have to wonder what this most recent Kennedy Tragedy is
telling us.

 Be Prepared For Irrational Acts of Retaliation
As the Democratic Elders Try to Force Clinton Out!

The above sentence is from a Post put out by RMNews on July 15, 1999. It
makes me wonder if the information about JFK, Jr. running for Senate from NY
was true, and he  PLANNED to run in the 2000 election. RMNews can only
speculate that the crash of JFK, Jr.'s airplane was one of the "Irrational
Acts of Retaliation" that we urged you to prepare for. If it is, then be
prepared for more of them.

In the set of articles from Frday, July 16th that are archived on the One
List Archive page, you will also find an article about a public radio station
in Berkeley, California  that was founded on free speech. It  is now being
censored by a Clinton backed radio station manager. In that article RMNews
stated:

Berkeley was the beginning of the revolution of the 60's. Are the people
behind the scenes who control our media, and shape our beliefs and actions
preparing us for another 60's type revolution?

RMNews alerted its readers in past articles that the New World Order has mind
controlled anarchists in all major cities. These anarchists are just waiting
for the trigger signal which  will put them in action. Then we will have
chaos and destruction like we have never seen before in this country... not
even during the Viet Nam war.

What will the anarchists be protesting and who will they be working for? Will
it at first appear as if they are protesting the takeover silencing of
KPFA a radio station that was one of the only liberal stations to talk
about the Clinton connection to drugs? Will the anarchists force the
government to crack down on the protestors? Will the KPFA protest that has
begun as a sincere protest be turned into something else? end of quote

In light my our knowledge of programmed goverment anarchists, (one of whom
was the guest on the Bill O'Reilly Fox Television program yesterday, Friday,
July 16th,) I have to wonder how the goverment plans to "spin" the
disappearance  and presumed death of JFK, Jr.

Will the goverment be blamed by the anarchists? Will full scale riots erupt
protesting his murder? Will he become the rallying point around which the
young anarchists will congregate to start their revolution to overthrow the
United States?

Also contained in the set of articles that were sent out on July 15th by
RMNews is information stating that Presidnet Clinton has been ordered by his
New World Order handlers to sabotage the Democratic Candidate for President.
As a result of this, the Democratic Elders decided to hold a secret meeting
to discuss how to remove President Clinton.

In that article we warned RMNews readers to be prepared for anything. The
media must have something to distract the citizens so they don't know what is
going on.  Is the death of JFK, Jr. meant to distract us? Was he murdered to
keep him from 

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DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN class=00340516-17071999The 
disappearance of John F. Kennedy Jr's plane last night is something that 
givesnbsp;deep pause. It is a time for prayer. Dear lord, the problem is a 
spiritual problems. It is the absence of love. May we find a way to bring love 
present. I am reminded of St Paul when henbsp;wrote "God did not give us the 
spirit of fear, but of power, of love, and of a sound mind."/SPAN/FONT/DIV
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DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN class=00340516-17071999Last 
night, I read Russell Bowen's book on Bush and discovered that Harken (see our 
discussion below on Baby Bush's Harken deal from last week) had as its largest 
investor "an affiliate of Harvard University." Presumably, that would be the 
private company that invests the non-liquid venture/equity portfolio for the 
Harvard endowment. My understanding is that they do all the real estate, oil, 
mining, etc.  Assuming that is so, those were the same fellows who, I am told by 
reliable sources, alledgedly arranged to have my company destroyed in 1996, 
being also the largest investor in NHP, the largest subsidized HUD owner and 
manager. They needed us destroyed to ensure that they could take the company 
public and get their cash out at a high multiplenbsp;through a merger before 
government subsidy policies changed or loan sales caused them to lose to much of 
their portfolio. Unless this happened, NHP would be the biggest loser to date 
for the fellow who runs the portfolio. That is a big pop to lose out on, just 
because of the taxpayers. One of the fellows who worked for one of the NHP 
chairman's partners came to me in the summer of 1996 and said "well, we tried to 
have you fired through the white house (true---this has been verified) and it 
did not work, so now the big boys got together and you are going to jail". The 
implication was the "rat pack" was lead by NHP' Chairmannbsp;with the support 
and power of the Harvard Endowment./SPAN/FONT/DIV
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DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN class=00340516-17071999The 
Assistant Secretary of Housing thatnbsp;let them punch through 
thenbsp;airnbsp;cover is now working at Harvard, asnbsp;arenbsp;some of the 
folks who engineered 1/2 trillion of private capital flocking into prison 
privitization. Harvard keeps coming up. One of my former partners once said that 
the only thing he ever learned at Harvard was the merits of a 100% inheritance 
tax./SPAN/FONT/DIV
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class=00340516-17071999/SPAN/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN class=00340516-17071999One of 
my Solarinbsp;partners, Carolyn, calls before I go to bed and tells me that she 
came home and watched Law and Order and the plot is lesbians, murders and phone 
calls traced to the white house. We ruminate on whether this has a deeper 
message since the priority effort by the feds for the last three years has been 
to brand me as a lesbian. Their willingness to persist in this despite 
overwhelming evidence to the contrary has me convinced that this strategy has to 
trace back to someone with their own issues, or some logical reason that if I 
can figure it out will help us solve the Gideon mystery, let alone what it could 
do for my social life./SPAN/FONT/DIV
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class=00340516-17071999/SPAN/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN class=00340516-17071999I went 
to sleep and early this morning had a dream. I was swimming in the ocean in a 
bay about a mile or two from the coastline.nbsp;The land was pretty green but I 
could see houses. The sun was up. The water was very blue and the weather was 
beautiful. Swimming straight for me was a huge white shark. For a moment, I 
thought "uh oh" and then I thought..."wait a minute. God has promised me that I 
can do this. I am swimming straight ahead, the shark just can't touch me." And I 
had this incredible burst of energy and knew that everything was going to be 
fine./SPAN/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN 
class=00340516-17071999/SPAN/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2SPAN class=00340516-17071999And 
thennbsp;Forest, my totally cool dog,nbsp; decides to wake me up so that I 
have an option to walk her before shenbsp;harms the carpet. Coming back in 
Carolyn calls to say Kennedy's plane has disappeared. So I thought...what does 
this mean? I had just listed to a tape of Joe Occipinti (sp?) talking about how 
JFK Jr. was one of the prosecutors on Operation Bodega and 

Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

[Das GOAT]

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In a message dated 99-07-17 07:43:47 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

A really interesting posting.  Thanks.  It lets me view Aristotle ina whole
new light.

You should read Aristotle's essay on "democracy" (ha) as the Greeks
understood it, in which existence of a non-"citizen" slave class is
justified.  Appalling and enlightening.

Next time we hear "experts" propound "Western Civilization's" official party
line --that our "democratic" tradition had its source in Greece and Rome--
let's not forget that the norm among those "founding fathers" of "democracy"
and, a bit more accurately, the institution of the so-called "republic," were
in fact aristocratic elitists, class oligarchs.
Our tradition DID originate in Greece and Rome -- in their de facto FEUDAL
system.

The sooner we all realize that the same old ancient CON-GAME
--institutionalizing the economic/political class-dichotomy bertween
"fortunate" masters (effortlessly "born to rule" simply by birth and marriage
-- a fact completely unjustifiable except by invoking pre-and after-life
"karma" or equivalent deterministic myths ) and their "unlucky," by
"necessity" hard-working, slaves (serfs)-- continues to this very day, the
better we can all deal with REALITY, "free at last" from an archetypally,
culturally, and ideologically conditioned state of hypnosis, designed to
reinforce our "slave morality" and mentality.

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Re: [CTRL] Gubbmint intrusion...

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At 07:07 PM 7/16/99 EDT, William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My reply to your even less deep and far more inane "amswer" to my question...
A fetus is NOT a citizen of these United States (repeat this 100 times, take
a breath, and get a clue).

OK.  I'll give it a try.

1. "A fetus is NOT a citizen of these United States"
2. "A fetus is NOT a citizen of these United States"
3. "A fetus is NOT a citizen of these United States"

- - - SNIP - - -

99. "A fetus is NOT a citizen of these United States"
100. "A fetus is NOT a citizen of these United States"

gasp

Ummm.  An illegal immigrant is not a citizen of these United States either.
Do you mean to suggest that the U.S. Constitution allows them to be
aborted out of existence, too, permitting even POST-TERM abortions?

Nope.  Your theory still sounds stupid and preposterous.

DBC

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Re: [CTRL] JFK JUNIOR PLANE MISSING

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Can't help myself -- I've got to beat Robalini  company to an expected
"scoop" ...

 "The Air Force got a ``positive hit'' on an emergency signal emanating
from northern Long Island The Coast Guard launched an aggressive search
of the area around Martha's Vineyard and MONTAUK ..".


Kennedy's Fate Remains Uncertain

By TED ANTHONY
.c The Associated Press


The summer sky was clear and hazy, and the little plane that ascended into
the sky over Fairfield, N.J., disappeared quietly into the spreading night.

But the single-engine Piper Saratoga II HP soaring away from the tree-lined
Essex County Airport and the Friday evening sunset contained no ordinary
pilot.

Inside was a man who, for many, was the very embodiment of the most
celebrated American family ever - John F. Kennedy Jr., heading northeast with
his wife and sister-in-law toward the famous Hyannisport family compound for
a cousin's wedding, a happy day.

It would be five hours before his absence would be officially noticed, more
than 10 before the world would know this: The son of the fallen president,
the heir and namesake to Camelot, the ``sexiest man alive'' and the
founder-editor of George magazine, was nowhere to be found.

There would be no wedding this day for Rory Kennedy and her clan. There would
be only uncertainty.

``It looked to me like he was limping,'' said the last person to see JFK Jr.
on the ground.

Kyle Bailey, who saw Kennedy undergo his pre-takeoff routine at Essex County
Airport, said Kennedy, who arrived in his convertible, might have even had
crutches from a recent paragliding injury. Bailey watched as Carolyn Bessette
Kennedy arrived by car service, but never got a look at Lauren Bessette.

Kennedy and his wife, married for nearly three years, were due Saturday at
the Hyannisport compound, where Kennedys from all over had already gathered,
as they have for three generations, to celebrate. In this case, it was the
nuptials of the late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy's youngest daughter that drew
them together.

For Rory Kennedy, it was to be a happy day in a life marred by tragedy. Her
father was assassinated before she was born; her brother David died of a drug
overdose in 1984; and she was the one who cradled her dying brother Michael
after a 1997 skiing accident.

Some 275 guests had been expected for the private 6 p.m. wedding ceremony for
Rory, a producer and documentary director, and Mark Bailey, a writer-editor.
The bridal party was to include 30 family members and friends.

JFK Jr. was getting there in a relatively new way; he got his pilot's license
only last year, and had spent many weekends of late tending his brand-new,
well-instrumented plane at the Essex County Airport, where 350 private craft
are based. He'd said he loved the new way of traveling.

``Whenever we want to get away, we can just get in a plane and fly off,'' he
told USA Today in May 1998. But not everyone was so enthusiastic.

``The only person I've been able to get to go up with me, who looks forward
to it as much as I do, is my wife,'' he said.

Kennedy was supposed to make a stop on Martha's Vineyard at 10 p.m. to drop
off his sister-in-law at a house once owned by his mother, the late
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. Then the couple was set to fly on to Hyannisport
for the wedding.

Kennedy hadn't filed a filght plan, which is often normal for planes of such
size; none is required. The FAA last heard from him at 9:39 p.m.

Then nothing. And more nothing. From John F. Kennedy Jr. and his airplane,
there was only silence.

At the Hyannisport compound, uneasiness set in after midnight. A family
friend reported the plane missing and called the Coast Guard at Woods Hole at
2:15 a.m. The Guard began an immediate search; the Federal Aviation
Administration was notified and called in more military rescuers about 3 a.m.

Authorities also tried to see if the plane had landed elsewhere. It hadn't.

At 3:30 a.m., the Air Force got a ``positive hit'' on an emergency signal
emanating from northern Long Island. Rescuers searched that area for three
hours, but found nothing. At 7:30 a.m., the Coast Guard launched an
aggressive search of the area around Martha's Vineyard and Montauk, N.Y.

Later, the search area was narrowed significantly when officials reviewed
radar records and found the plane's last known location was about 17 miles
southwest of the Vineyard.

The word went forth, and soon the networks were reporting that something was
amiss. Those Americans who watch TV news on their Saturday mornings would get
up to learn that for the Kennedys, yet again, something unimaginable was
afoot.

Saturday would be a surreal day in a lot of places. At the compound, the
family huddled inside, the wedding priests performing a mass of prayer for
the missing. Outside, the curious and the media gathered to watch and wait
for word. And in the Atlantic Ocean, helicopters and boats scoured the water
for something - anything.

Those who were grim held their 

Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr. I've figured it out!!!!!

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Linda Minor wrote:

Do you mean Montauk?  The Nazi haven and underground tunnels used for time
travel?

No, Montauk is on the far eastern tip of Long Island and in closer
proximity to Martha's Vineyard than where TWA800 went down, well to the
west...and where this morning they were showing where the beacon was
heard that was presumed to come from JFK Jr's plane...

But the latest news I heard on the radio now has a fisherman claiming to
have seen a plane making an approach to the airport on Martha's Vineyard
from a direction that is commonly used by pilots who have missed it on
their first approach...according to this fisherman, the plane was only
about 20 to 40 feet above the water and 'then disappeared'...he seems to
not have heard a crash, only that the plane seemed to suddenly be
'gone'...

And they say that some wreckage and the sister-in-law's luggage has
washed up on a nearby beach

Which raises more questions, since they said that JFK's last radio
contact was 20 minutes before he was due to land at Martha's Vineyard...
so if he'd made it, had tried an approach and missed, or couldn't see it
-- it was quite hazy last night, and apparantly it's hard to see the
approach under those conditions -- why didn't he radio for help and
instructions?


June

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And as you ask I'll set you free
But as you fly
You'll touch the sky
And touch the heart
Within me

  Fly away.


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[CTRL] Fw: IUFO: [Tonight] Convergence Radio Show This Sat.! (fwd)

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:36:23 -0400
From: David Wilcock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Convergence" Radio Show This Sat.!


Just wanted to drop this quick note for everyone. I have just
gotten a last-minute invitation to appear on the Laura Lee Show
between 7 and 9:00 p.m. Pacific time tomorrow (Saturday) night.
On the program, I will be discussing "the Physics of Ascension,"
or the material from the book "Convergence" which I have
published freely on the Internet at my website,
www.ascension2000.com.  In this program, we will be exploring the
proof behind the idea that there is a grand cycle of human
development that is coming to completion.

We all know that the visitor question is truly multi-dimensional
and has many different layers of meaning. Obviously, there is
extreme interest in our civilization at this time from an outside
higher intelligence, and we must fundamentally ask the question
"Why?"

The Edgar Cayce readings spoke of the year 1998 as being a
possible time for Earth Changes, as well as a general time area
for the Second Coming of Christ. It is important to remember that
the readings stated that this "Second Coming" had more to do with
the awakening process of the individual as opposed to any
directly luminous apparition - although the readings did say that
we could expect this at some point as well. Obviously, we didn't
see the worst-case Earth Changes in 1998, nor did Jesus return to
earth - so we must look deeper into the possible meanings of
these enigmatic passages from a psychic who had such a
consistently high "batting average" otherwise.

And so, a great deal of research has been brought to bear upon
the deeper implications of this particular Cayce reading, number
1602-3. The reading specifically mentions a "Solar Cycle" that
governs the passage of ages, and a bit of interpolation makes us
see that this "Cycle" is keyed in precisely with the phenomenon
of the precession of the equinoxes, a slow wobble in the Earth's
axis occurring over 26,000 year periods of time.

It is the work of Maurice Cotterell that ties in the precessional
cycle on Earth to an observable, long-term cycle of sunspot
activity on our Sun. And therein lies the key to understanding
exactly what Cayce meant when he discussed this Solar Cycle.
There is something much more going on here than just a movement
in the sun or a wobble in the Earth's axis - we are talking about
a fundamentally multi-dimensional cycle of time that is playing
itself out here. If the theories are correct, then we can expect
to see continuing changes in our future. The most immediately
interesting time locus for such time-shifting effects is Aug. 11,
1999.

Hope you will tune in for this public debut of the material, and
call in with your highly-informed questions. Thank you all.

David Wilcock
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Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

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In a message dated 99-07-17 14:57:03 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But it DOES seem more than a tad coincidental that he would disappear in
roughly the same area that TWA800 went down, three years to the day of
that tragedy...

And 30 years to the day after Chappaquiddick.

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Re: [CTRL] TheEagle-L] Factions or Hegelian Game?

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Hi all,

With determining who the 'Seed of David' is and with talk on "the young king
is dead" -JFK etc I'd like to add that the Kennedys were Irish royal blood.
Also I read that one of the Irish PMs - O'Neill was heir to the Irish
throne. The other thing of interest was in the book Dope Incorporated and it
said the British PM had to be descended from Robert the Bruce. I also read
in the paper that a lot of the British cabinet came from one small area of
Scotland.  I would recommend the book The Black Sun - Montauk's
Nazi -Tibetan connection by Peter Moon just to see just how deeply engrained
this Aryan control, especially the Scottish connection with the Nazis is.
Personally I think its the Aryans v the Seed of David - people choosing one
or the other to support in their political affiliation. Like
Aryan/Celtic/CIA v the royal/Freemasons.

Anyone got any more light on this please? Thanks.
This could maybe get simplified except for the alien control. So far I've
heard Pleiadian-Aryan and Freemason - Sirius but this is only from books.

Nicky

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[CTRL] Tangled Webs - Balkans

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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Gets better the further down one reads

 Hawks and Eagles:  "Greater NATO" Flies to the Aid of "Greater
 Albania"

 By Diana Johnstone

 Spring-Summer 1999 # 67



 On March 24, NATO launched its first full-scale aggressive war
 against a sovereign state. It was certainly not meant to be the
 last. NATO, it was repeatedly stated, had to prove its “resolve.”
 The action was meant to be exemplary, a model for future NATO
 actions elsewhere and a warning to the world.

 Yugoslavia had neither attacked nor threatened any other country.
 NATO acted illegally, without any mandate from the United Nations
 Security Council. By flouting the basic principles that underlie
 the fragile structure of international legality, the Clinton
 administration and NATO chose “might is right” as the law of the
 new millennium.

 This appalling adventure, presented by servile media and ignorant
 politicians as a “humanitarian” necessity, set off precisely the
 “humanitarian catastrophe” its apologists claimed it was meant to
 prevent. Countless thousands of frightened ethnic Albanian
 civilians fled over rough terrain into neighboring countries.
 They were fleeing from the NATO bombing and Serb reprisals, in
 proportions it was not possible to measure. Both NATO and its
 armed Albanian allies in the Kosovo Liberation Army (UCK or KLA)
 needed to persuade the world that “Milosevic” (the semi-fictional
 personification of evil on the one hand, and Serbia on the other)
 was carrying out “genocide” in Kosovo. The “genocide” story was
 necessary to justify both the bombing and the next phase of the
 NATO-KLA scenario, the invasion of Serbia to “liberate” Kosovo.

 After a week of bombing, this much could be said with certainty:
 NATO leaders had lied so blatantly about things that could be
 checked, that there was no reason to believe anything they say
 about things that could not.

 Among the many lies in the current torrent, one lie played a key
 role in the justifying of the NATO bombing, the “no alternative”
 lie: Since Milosevic refused peace negotiations, we had no choice
 but to bomb.(1)

 The “no alternative” lie incorporated several falsehoods in one.

 Milosevic had not refused peace negotiations. For months, the
 Serbian government had been offering to negotiate, while the
 ethnic Albanian leaders refused. The Serb side had presented
 quite comprehensive and reasonable proposals for extensive
 self-government in Kosovo.

 For years, but especially during recent months, both the Serbian
 government and non-governmental groups have made compromise
 proposals for Kosovo, all including autonomy, democracy and
 extensive cultural rights, while the nationalist leaders have
 insisted on only one demand: secession.

 The “Rambouillet peace agreement” was in reality an ultimatum to
 Yugoslavia to accept a NATO protectorate on its soil. It was
 designed by State Department official Christopher Hill to satisfy
 KLA leaders, and was “agreed” upon only by those two parties and
 the European Union representative, not by the entire Contact
 Group (including Russia) which was theoretically sponsoring it.
 No sovereign state in the world could accept such an ultimatum.

 Top U.S. officials openly coaxed reluctant Albanians into signing
 the agreement by telling them that their signatures were needed
 in order to justify NATO air strikes against Yugoslavia. The
 “peace agreement” was thus in reality a war agreement.

 The War Agreement of Rambouillet

 The conflict between ethnic Albanians and Serbs is a very old
 one, which can be traced back over three centuries. It is older
 than the Israeli-Palestinian or Northern Ireland conflicts, not
 to mention countless other ethnic conflicts in the world. The
 “peace process” in such cases is expected to be long and
 delicate. Only in Kosovo, governments and media suddenly decided
 that the conflict had to be settled in two weeks, at Rambouillet,
 on terms laid down by the United States.

 Why the hurry? Because the United States was keen to lock in
 NATO’s new mission as global intervention machine with a show of
 force prior to the 50th anniversary of NATO summit in April.(2)
 NATO had carefully planned the operations six months in advance.
 Peace negotiations “broke down” just when NATO was all set to go.

 For many months, the Serbian government had offered to negotiate.
 High-level government teams went repeatedly to the provincial
 capital, Pristina, to hold talks with Ibrahim Rugova and other
 non-violent ethnic Albanian leaders. On one pretext or another,
 the Albanians refused to negotiate. It is probable that two
 factors weighed heavily in their refusal: fear of going against
 the rising armed rebel movement, the “Kosovo Liberation Army,”
 (UCK/KLA), hostile to any compromise and ready to assassinate
 “traitors” who dealt with the Serbs; and expectations that strong
 U.S. pressure on Yugoslavia would bring them more than
 negotiations with Belgrade.

 At Rambouillet, 

Re: [CTRL] Radio Show Article - tapes 46 A-B - Mind Control Radio Series

[Smart News]

 -Caveat Lector-

Hi !

Below please find quotes from a Radio Show on CKLN, Toronto.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

from: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-25.htm

Radio Show Article

The information and quotes from the following article come from tapes 46 A
and B of the Mind Control Radio Series on CKLN radio. This show included Gail
Fisher-Taylor, a psychotherapist from Toronto and  "Caryn Stardancer, a
California-based advocate for survivors and publisher of "Survivorship.""
Please use caution while reading. It may be triggering. Please note: all
accusations are alleged.

"CARYN STARDANCER:... my abuse started in the forties, WWII...some of the
things I first saw were a mixture of people who were involved in military,
and who were in power settings and were doing that kind of experimentation.
There were also Masonic connections. In the time I was given "mentorship" I
was told there was something called The Pantheistic  Occult, and essentially
what that meant was that there are all different kinds of systems under which
mind control can be perpetrated (or belief systems, religious beliefs,
political beliefs). Basically the idea is that you target a person - by where
their vulnerabilities are - dependent upon their cultural or educational
group, the profession in which they are involved, where their vulnerabilities
are - by what they already believe."

"There are different ways people are brought into the system. Some of them
are churches - there was certainly a church involved in the early contact
with my family. What the Pantheistic Occult basically meant was that it
...doesn't matter what the belief system is, it depends on the person's
adaptability, the way they respond to issues of power, and you move your way
up depending on your adaptability. You may never know that there is a group
larger than the one you are involved in, or you may, depending on how you
move through the system, and also how the people who are in contact with you
move through the system."

"... the people who were teaching me about the Pantheistic Occult were
directly involved in what was called a Dionysian Sect. That was explained as
having started in pre-Christian times - it had to do with the profession they
were involved in - which was the Law. Essentially most of what they were
doing was political blackmail. The use of the children had to do with having
them adapted to sex - for example, having them photographed in a film with
adults who were being blackmailed. It was then easy to manipulate them."

"The people bought into it more or less. Some were very cynical about it, and
said it was all about power, it didn't really matter. Other people really
"believed." It's so individual how different people respond. For example, in
the one church I went to some people were very much involved in Satanism, and
very much believed, but other people would just laugh about it privately and
just say it's the system to get the minions, to terrorize them. In that sect,
in all of the different groups I've been exposed to, and that's what I hear
from survivors over the world, that it really depends on who you are, and who
you are in contact with - how much people believe. The belief system is used
essentially to indoctrinate, entrance, terrorize - and it's part of the mind
control system in that all mind control is a conditioned response where
feelings are put together with ideas."

"...[In my childhood abuse], there were people there who talked about the
occult tradition, and they traced it back directly to pre-Christian
Dionysians. They had a whole occult tradition where they interpreted history,
and they had stories about the different things that happened to the movement
of their group. And that was just one sect that I was exposed to."

Later on in the interview, in a response to a caller defending Masonry, Wayne
 Morris (interviewer)  replies: "I am afraid I would have to disagree with
you in the respect that we have heard allegations from across North America
alleging that they have been abused in a ritual abuse context or sexually
abused by high ranking Masons of the same Scottish Rite and the York Rite of
the mainstream Masonry. Now that is not to say that all Masons are engaged in
this type of activity - in fact I would think that the majority are not, and
have no knowledge of it. But we have heard allegation after allegation of
high ranking Masons in these organizations who are engaged in this type of
activity."

"Survivorship" - a newsletter about ritual abuse, can be contacted at 297 El
Camino Real #219, San Bruno, CA 94066, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], website
http://www.survivorship.com

CKLN Radio Tapes and transcripts are available from: CKLN Radio Tapes and
transcripts are available from: "Mind Control  in Canada Radio Series,"
CKLN, 380 Victoria St., Jorgenson Hall, Ryerson University, Toronto, CANADA.
Transcripts are available at: http://www.mk.net/~mcf/ckln-hm.htm, E-mail:
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Re: [CTRL] CONSPIRACY Re: JFK Jr's Plane is missing (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

 -Caveat Lector-

LOOK, how can ANYONE bad mouth another for suspecting murder,
etc?!?!  Auyookiddin ME!!?

Unfortunately for the Clinton Administration, neither anything
that happens to a person who has any political connections at
all, nor anything that is exceptionally newsworthy that pushes a
Clinton scandal off of the news can escape the suspicion that the
hand of the Administration is once again at work.  It has
happened too many times for us not to look at any seeming
"accident" with a jaundiced eye.


Best,

Mike


P.S.  What's up with   www.georgemagazine.com

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[CTRL] [Told Ya So! re: Kennedy] American Reporter may have been warned (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:17:58 -0700
From: Walt Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  American Reporter may have been warned

This was posted to the Society of Professional Journalists' list:


   AMERICAN REPORTER MAY HAVE BEEN WARNED OF ATTEMPT ON KENNEDYS
   by Joe Shea

   HOLLYWOOD -- The American Reporter may have received
   a tip about forthcoming tragedy among the Kennedys earlier this
   week, but its origin and meaning were impossible to verify at
   the time.

[MORE]

at http://www.american-reporter.com


Joe Shea|   1812 N. Ivar, No. 5
Editor-in-Chief |   Hollywood, CA  90028-5026
The American Reporter   |   (213)467-0616
http://www.american-reporter.com|   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


"The first daily newspaper with original content to start on the Internet."
 -- Adam Gaffin, Internet World (Sept., 1995)


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Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

[TenebrousT]

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In a message dated 7/17/99 7:49:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Nothing in Sobran's article said that slavery was good or that anyone other
  than the slaves and slavers had any regard for it.  Man's inhumanity to man
  takes many forms.  Slavery does not appear to be the worst of them.  The
  ownership of human beings also takes many forms.  Slavery is just the one
  that can be most clearly observed.  Prudy


Prudy is correct here.  The fact is that we are all slaves on one level or
another.  This type of posting usually galvanizes thought in one of two
directions, either denouncement of white Europeans for enslaving Africa or
indignant people decrying that the Africans were first so we "whites" have no
reason to feel bad about our butchery and slavery of the Africans.  It is
designed to initiate heated response, part of the program don't you know.

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Re: [CTRL] JFK, Jr. Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

[nessie]

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"Once is hapstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action."

  --
venerable maxim

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[CTRL] George's Book of Political Lists

[Tsadowq]

 -Caveat Lector-

Previous Thread: [CTRL] JFK, Jr.   Did He Offend Clinton Lately?

In a message dated 7/17/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Well, did he?  Does anyone read George?  Or
hear of any articles about to come-out therein? 

Last year (98), George magazine came
forth with The Book of Political LISTS.

Amongst other interesting facts, the book included a
list (including Lodge numbers) of Masonic Presidents.

The graphics on said page, showed the back of the
dollar bill, particularly, the reverse of the Great Seal.

The book also included genealogical lists which showed
how many presidents were related to each other by their
royal bloodlines-- tracing them back several centuries to
the likes of Robert of Scotland, Henry I, II; William the
Lion, Hugh Capet of France, etc.

Of course, we should be assured that it was just
coincidental that these two lists shared many of
the same names in common.

Now, I don't necessarily think that this book is a
reason to have Jr. killed...I am just sending the
information because it seemed like a good time
to do so.

:::goes back to flight simulator:::
Tsadowq

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[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 7/17/99

[CobolMage]

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X DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, JULY 17, 1999 15:21:09 ET X


PILOT LAST TO SEE KENNEDY WARNED: 'HE'S GOING TO KILL HIMSELF ONE DAY IN
THAT AIRPLANE'

Kyle Bailey, 25, a merchandising analyst from Cedar Grove, N.J., and a
pilot flying from this airport for 13 years, said he saw Kennedy and his
wife at about 8 p.m. last night at the airport.

Bailey tells Sunday's NEW YORK TIMES that he saw Kennedy's plane took off
heading south, then turned west and then headed northwest, toward Martha's
Vineyard. Bailey, who flew to Martha's Vineyard two weeks ago, said the
ocean route can be hazardous, especially at night.

"Flying over the ocean at night isn't the safest feeling. I know that route
and at night with fog it can become dangerous," the pilot tells the paper.

"I went home to my family and said, 'He's going to kill himself one day in
that airplane.' I mean, it was really a hazy night,'" Bailey said.

According to publishing sources, the TIMES will report that Bailey watched
as Kennedy walked around the outside of the airplane and then went through
a routine series of preflight checks.

"Bailey said he noticed one unusual thing about Kennedy's preflight check.
Usually pilots take their planes down the runway a bit to do their engine
`rev-ups,' to avoid creating too much noise in the parking area. But he
said Kennedy did his rev-ups in the parking space."

Bailey tells the paper: "The impression I got was maybe there was something
wrong with the plane. It just caught my attention, like, 'Why is he doing
this here?'"

Developing...


X X X X X

X DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, JULY 17, 1999 14:01:22 ET X

FAMILY AND FRIENDS WORRIED ABOUT JOHN FLYING PLANE

Family and friends of John Kennedy Jr. worried about him piloting his
private plane.

"We used to joke that he was taking his life into his hands when he went
flying," a devastated GEORGE magazine staffer told the DRUDGE REPORT.

Maurice Templesman, Jackie's Onassis's longtime friend, told close
associates that he was worried sick about Kennedy flying solo.

Kennedy recently traded up to a more sophisticated plane -- only two weeks
ago.

He had only 100 hours of piloting.

"The only person I've been able to get to go up with me, who looks forward
to it as much as I do, is my wife," Kennedy said in an interview with USA
TODAY. "The second it was legal she came up with me now whenever we
want to get away, we can just get in a plane and fly off."

The NEW YORK POST reported last year that members of the Kennedy clan,
including Ted, have politely declined John Jr.'s offers to fly in his plane.

"Several pals, mindful of the family's tragic history, have tried to curb
his sky-high appetite," the POST reported.

"He was a big fan of extreme sports," a GEORGE magazine staffer said on
Saturday.

Not long ago, Kennedy flew to South Dakota to pose at Mt. Rushmore for a
photo to go with an essay had written. While he was there, Kennedy asked if
he could rappel down Rushmore.

Park officials said no.

---
Filed by Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
http://www.drudgereport.com  for breaks and updates
(c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999

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[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Saturday, July 17, 1999

[CobolMage]

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from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS
subject: AANEWS for July 17, 1999

 A M E R I C A N   A T H E I S T S
   #611 ~~ 7/17/99
http://www.atheists.org
   ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/
 http://www.americanatheist.org

-
   A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS
   "Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights
And The Separation Of State and Church"
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   THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR: IS IT AN "ATHEIST GROUP"?

Discussion continues in Atheist circles about whether or not the World
Church of the Creator is, as some -- including the Washington Post --
say, is an "atheist group."  The WCC has been peripherally linked to a
series of hate crimes, including a shooting spree by a former church
member who over the July 4th weekend went on a racially motivated
killing spree in Indiana and Illinois.  The reported gunman, Benjamin
Nathaniel Smith, committed suicide following a police chase.  The WCC
denies any responsibility or role in these tragedies, of course, but
some insist that the literature and teachings of the church motivated
those who carried out these horrific acts.

The World Church of the Creator is headed by a the self-proclaimed
"Pontifex Maximus," Matthew Hale.  Media coverage of the WCC -- fueled
mostly by Smith's rampage -- focused mainly on the group's racist
ideology which teaches that Jews, Hispanics, Blacks and others (the
"mud people") are inferior to the White race.  Last Monday, July 12,
however, Los Angeles Times staff writer Rena Sanchez described the
World Church of the Creator as an "atheist group," an observation
based on the church's somewhat cryptic writings about religion, and
the claim that it is an "anti-Christian" movement.

American Atheists promptly issued a press release noting that Hale's
church (the term "church" meaning "house of the Lord" and "a place of
worship") was not involved in promoting atheist and related issues,
such as the separation of church and state, and was "doing the
bidding" of America's fundamentalist right-wing Christians.  AANEWS
excavated the background of the World Church of the Creator and its
founder, Ben Klassen, who was heavily influenced by the Christian
Identity theology.  It is our position that aside from a Church being
no place for atheists, the World Church of the Creator seems to
espouse a vague form of deism, rants against anything vaguely
connected with the Jewish or Christian beliefs -- not because they are
necessarily wrong but because they happen to be Jewish or Christian --
and, not being involved in atheist activism, is not an "atheist
group."

It should be noted, too, that while we disagree with the odious
opinions of Mr. Hale, "hateful" speech is not and should not be an
excuse to invoke government censorship.  Indeed, those who would ban,
censor and attempt other ruses to shut down the World Church of the
Creator (civil liability suits are one example of this danger) or
censor its publications or site on the internet, may well expand their
net in an ever-widening circle.  As a First Amendment voluptuary (a
term borrowed from writer Jeff Smith), your editor enthusiastically
embraces the notion that "the best answer to bad speech is more -- not
less -- speech."

The clash of opinions on this subject of the World Church of the
Creator continues to rage on, though.  AANEWS asked Cliff Walker,
Editor of Positive Atheism magazine for his thoughts on this subject.
Walker has investigated the background of Hale, and has even contacted
the "Pontifex Maximus" about his views.  We want to share Mr. Walker's
thoughts on this important topic with our readers.  Cliff Walker's article
is
now also up at the American Atheist Magazine web site.  A special
discussion section for exchanges about this article will be at the web
site later this evening for those wishing to make comments.  Visit the
magazine at http://www.americanatheist.org for more.  You may also visit
http://www.aracnet.com/~atheism/, the page for Positive Atheism.


 OUR IDENTITY AS ATHEIST ORGANIZATIONS
The "Washington Post" and its use of the "A"-word

by Cliff Walker

Much heated discussion has revolved around the July 12, 1999, article
in "The Washington Post" that called the racist World Church of the
Creator an "atheist" group.  Other articles, particularly those in
"The New York Times" and "U.S.  News and World Report," fell short of
using the word "atheist."  Both journals chose simply to describe the
situation, saying that the group "does not worship any God" ("Times"
[1]) and "doesn't believe in God" ("U.S.  News" [2]).

American Atheists' president Ellen Johnson quickly responded to the
"Post" article, saying that its "characterization of the World Church
of the Creator as an 'atheist group' was 'a cheap shot.'  " The
"Washington Post" religion editor, Jo Rector, who was responsible for
the wording, 

[CTRL] Mystery of Flight 800: Three years after crash, questions linger (LONG)

[Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard]

Title: 



Mystery of Flight 800: Three years after crash, questions 
linger

A piece of debris from TWA flight 800 floats July 18, 
1996, in the Atlantic Ocean off Long Island, New York 
July 17, 1999Web posted at: 1:58 a.m. EDT (0558 
GMT)In 
this story:Friction between investigators and airlineWho owns 
the wreckage?Aircraft safety changes orderedWould TWA payment 
compromise probe?Couple gets probation in wreckage theftRELATED 
STORIES, 
SITESFrom 
staff and wire reportsWASHINGTON (CNN) -- Saturday marks the third 
anniversary of the crash of TWA Flight 800, which exploded off the Long Island 
coast, killing all 230 aboard. To many, the crash remains one of the greatest 
mysteries in aviation history.The tragedy will be noted by victims' 
families, with a memorial service and monument dedication.The definitive 
cause of the crash remains the largest lingering question. And, with 
investigative costs mounting, another question has emerged: Should the airline 
help to pay the high cost of the crash probe? Also, who owns the wreckage? 
Should it revert to the airline? What if the airline doesn't want 
it?Federal investigators believe a fuel-air explosion in the center fuel 
tank caused the Boeing 747 to explode on July 17, 1996.But a final 
report is not expected for months, according to Jim Hall, chairman of the 
National Transportation Safety Board.Friction between investigators and 
airlineIt has been the NTSB's longest and most expensive investigation in 
its 30-year history, with the cost mounting to "millions and millions" of 
dollars, Hall says.What remains of Flight 800 is now stored in an old 
aircraft plant in Calverton, New York, at a rent of $4.5 million annually. It 
will soon be moved to another hangar, where the charge will be $500,000 a 
year.The investigation's high costs have caused friction between TWA and 
federal investigators.Hall says Trans World Airlines has refused 
requests to share the cost of recovering and storing the wreckage, unlike other 
airlines that have had a plane crash.Who owns the wreckage?TWA has 
told the NTSB it is not responsible for the wreckage because it fell into the 
sea off Long Island, clouding property rights, Hall says."They refused 
to participate at all, even though we requested them," Hall told The Associated 
Press.The chairman also said the airline and its insurer apparently 
don't want the wreckage back.Therefore, Hall wants to move the remains 
of the Boeing 747, including a reconstructed 92-foot section, from New York to 
Washington so it can be used to train accident investigators.But TWA 
spokesman Jim Brown called Hall "misinformed." Brown said NTSB rules precluded 
the St. Louis-based airline from helping with or financing the wreckage recovery 
and storage. Furthermore, he said the board never asked the airline for funding 
or to take custody of the wreckage.Hall, however, produced letters from 
1996 with a request for $5 million in assistance and the airline's denial. In 
another letter from 1998, the airline stated that neither it nor its insurer 
owned the wreckage. In reply, Brown acknowledged the airline did receive a 
request for recovery money, but the other letter produced by Hall did not 
expressly ask the airline to take back the wreckage.Brown said airlines 
have refused such requests in the past, yet there is precedent for both help and 
refusal. Brown also said the airline has no claim to the wreckage because it 
fell in the ocean, where ownership often reverts to the person making the 
recovery."If they want us to take it back, it's something we would 
consider," he said.TWA Flight 800 was a New York-to-Paris trip when it 
exploded shortly after takeoff. Debris cascaded into the Atlantic Ocean about 10 
miles off Long Island, where it was recovered by the Coast Guard and 
Navy.Aircraft safety changes orderedWhile no final report has been 
issued on the cause, investigators say there was a fuel-air explosion in the 
plane's empty center fuel tank. They are searching for the ignition source and 
expect to make a final determination this fall or winter.The Federal 
Aviation Administration has ordered a series of safety changes on a variety of 
airplanes. They include new wiring checks on older aircraft, the installation of 
extra wire insulation and a prohibition on draining the center fuel tanks in 
747s, a practice that can cause overheating in fuel-pump 
bearings.Bernard Loeb, the panel's head of aviation safety, said 
investigators already have examined the possibility of a static electricity 
buildup, stray current from nearby fuel pumps and electrical shorts in the 
tank's fuel gauge system.The final phase of their work is now focusing 
on possible electromagnetic induction, which occurs when electricity from an 
active source or wire causes a trace of activity in a 

Re: [CTRL] Trade Issues: Africa, Agriculture

[piper]

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you are frogetting one!  France still has something to do
with GM food.  some kind of legal tangle that if France
declines GM food it could allow the rest of Europe to
potentially do the same.
-- That is just the way that I understood what I read
Piper --

All I know is that if someone eats garlic, you can smell it.
If a plant has herbicides or pesticides it seems as if you would
get a dose of those in the offactory glands as well.So ***
could that trigger an alergy?  Would would happen to perfume
made with flowers that have been treated with herbicides or
pesticides?
All I know is that I do not want to send anyone that is in the
hospital FLOWERS (expessally a new born) and considering
that are replacing the natural scents and oils with petrocemicals
or might use things like canola oil, I just do not like perfume
until I can make my own perfume and poperi.

France does not grow as many flowers for perfume as
it has done in the past.  Maybe people do not
like perfumes made with sick flowers and maybe the ones
with petrochemicals deaden certain scent areas of the ofectory
glands.

If this is true what would happen to people when they eat
plants that have pesticides and herbicides built in Genitically?
Would the people cause allergic reactions to the same
people that are allergic to the sick flowers?
After eating some (or enough) GM food could you become
allergic to yourself?
Piper

Alamaine wrote:

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 Institute for Public Accuracy
 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045
 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Thursday, July 15, 1999

 TRADE ISSUES: AFRICA, AGRICULTURE

 There have been a number of developments on trade issues this week: The World
 Trade Organization ruled on the European Union’s ban on U.S. hormone-injected
 beef, the Secretary of Agriculture made a speech on genetically modified foods
 and the House is set to vote on major Africa trade legislation. Among the
 analysts available to discuss these issues are:

 LORI WALLACH,  [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.citizen.org
 Director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch, Wallach said: “The House is
 about to vote on legislation that a coalition of oil companies dubbed the
 ‘African Growth and Opportunity Act.’ It certainly does nothing to help Africa
 grow or expand its opportunities, although it is full of special perks for
 foreign corporations. In exchange for modest new rights to import textiles and
 apparel, the bill requires African nations to mortgage their future by slashing
 public investment in health and education, cutting corporate taxes, removing
 hunger-fighting price supports, and opening Africa’s natural resources to
 foreign exploitation. Our other trade agreements don’t impose harsh conditions
 on trading partners; neither should agreements with Africa.”

 NJOKINJOROGE NJEHÛ, [EMAIL PROTECTED],www.50years.org
 Director of the 50 Years Is Enough Network, Njehû said: “If the African Growth
 and Opportunity Act becomes law it will take away sub-Saharan Africa’s right to
 determine her own destiny. The bill mandates that countries adhere to more of
 the same flawed IMF austerity programs in order to qualify for trade benefits
 with the United States. The benefits would flow to a few U.S. corporations,
 while the vast majority of African people would be disempowered and hindered
 from developing or benefitting from Africa’s great potential and resources.
 This is outrageous and unacceptable. Continuing to bleed Africa of her
 financial resources when the health, social development, and future of her
 people are at great risk is not only hopelessly immoral -- it is also a
 grievously short-sighted way to treat a trading partner.”

 KRISTIN DAWKINS, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.iatp.org
 A program director at the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy, Dawkins
 said: “The U.S. is demanding that the Europeans buy beef with artificial growth
 hormones and the Europeans are adamantly opposed to that. A virtually identical
 stand-off is shaping up around the issue of genetically engineered foods. If a
 small number of countries succeed in pushing deregulatory policy through the
 WTO, it will show the undemocratic nature of the WTO and fly in the face of
 overwhelming popular demand for healthy foods on both sides of the Atlantic.”

 For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
 Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167

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Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr. I've figured it out!!!!!

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this is a web page that I am working on and forgot
about.  I do not have all the supporting links in place
but the main part of the essay is here.
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for Index of whole site Framed Index with
option to break frames

Index of this page
Evolution: or De-Evolution?


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 Evolution:
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Only bothers Monarch caterpillar **link**
But by the time you add in Genetically Modified
Cotton seed oil **link**
Tomatoes **link**
Potatoes **link**
Corn **link**
Corn oil **link**
Soybeans **link**
And last but not least on the GM line up
Peanuts **link**
Could it be that they will effect us?
It is said that these items are fine.
but what would these items do to the sick?
Elderly? Children? Babies?
Will there be live beneficial bacteria and
beneficial enzymes for human guts?

And on top of this "I" heard they want to
kill what ever bacteria are left with irradiation.

Psychologists that think a belief in a higher
deity could be a psychosis.
If they also do not study history they think that
they are 'lords' and end up constantly reinventing the
wheel.
Every Religion a different day of rest babies
born able to make the sounds of any language
People that idolize the Holocaust and do not
realize that it started way before Hitler. The facts are in
the history books that education was already
changing before became a name. What happened to
those that protested the change in education?
Were they declared insane, or were they labeled
conspiracy theorists?
Survival of the fittest is not always survival
of the species.
The Human Being, a number of organs,
in a collaboration
Acidophilus bacteria, what kind of bacteria
protects our brains
Bacteria - working together in a symbolic
relationship in our bodies


What kind of bacteria would be in
a tree that was alive 100's of years.
A tree, rooted, would they like big
dinosaurs that could uproot them just by passing by
Flowers and plants for that small human biped to eat.
A biped that helped kills dinosaurs.
How long did it take the dinosaurs to die out?
Humans that travel and help digest food for plants
DNA and bacteria from meteorites
We are killing the plants and bacteria
Some have thoughts of weeding
humans out to protect the plants
Other thoughts that plants are not
needed, we can replicate
Thoughts of males being the major
problem, they supposedly are aggressive
If all that is needed is cloning,
reference budding why has males
All females (lesbians) if sex is
desired replication through cloning
Ants cultivate fungus (reference S. American ants)
Ants decompose items
Pollinators are no longer needed
Dinosaurs, humans, ants
How much longer will humans be around?


Ebonics, genetic?
Editors, how would someone with
a mind set of genocide edit compared to
someone that is looking at
a long term investment edit?
One would believe / edit
(have a thought database) for
control the other would edit for the
population being able to control itself.
One would be a addict to control the other
would want to add to their academic database and
want to get out as soon as possible
If we get rid of all the decomposers (example
alligators, the lg. South American fish –Tripi) what
would they be replaced with.
What kind of bacteria decomposes
poisonous plants like philidendreums?


Why do humans (particularly Americans)
laugh? Because it can hurt so much.
What if plants / trees were intelligent and
wanted to replicate on other worlds? – How would they do
it?
Once bacteria / plants get there
what would they have to do? Eco system.
DNA from meteorite bacteria, spores, DNA / pollen.
Bacteria are very competitive, why would
the bacteria that lives in synthesis with humans be able to
prove that it is top dog?
Why would other bacteria be
willing to work with human bacteria?
Humans are a collaboration of different
bacteria, a lot of bacteria per human and we spread the
bacteria that plants need. Why are we so
in-efficient at food decomposition that we need to eat and
defecate so much?
Game Trails – hooves compared to pads

When you are rooted in one place (trees)
Have you food (light) brought to you
Have your fertilizer brought to you
Why are we prized?
As Omnivores we have more bacteria and
a greater collection of food sources in our waste
products. It would seem that herbivores
(inefficient hay burners) would be the most prized)
Carnivores need too many herbivores each to live.,
Which ants would be the most prized?
The ones that travel the longest distances.
Ants cultivating fungus (reference some
South American ants)
Fire Ants to Army Ants
Which areas of humans have gone cannibalistic /
competitive? The ones that are poor fertilizers. That
kill the plants and horde midnight soil (honey pots)

Plants in symbolic relationships:
Organic pesticide may aid GM crops
"They discovered that when the common
tomato it is attacked by the beet armyworm, 

Re: [CTRL] THE LEGITIMACY OF SLAVERY in Nigeria - by Joseph Sobran

[Bill]

 -Caveat Lector-

HEAR what the goat is saying!  These days its all in the
mind...its elemental...T4F...a major means of divorce
(Intellectually, Spiritually, Physically) from the things
that are can be accomplished by discounting and escaping the
violently prevalent religious beliefs of today.

From The Federal Courthouse Steps Beltaine 1999
 In this last, and now almost past, century, a lot of
striving for the unattainable has been going on.   Our
religious outlook is a prime example of this.  Male imagery
in religion evolved from solar imagery, and let me tell you
right up front:  there is nothing at all that we as a race
can do to affect or intelligently interact with our Sun.
Our efforts to emulate the male solar imagery is  futility
manifest, and that needs to be addressed.  Our following of
the impossible is almost lemminglike in its distraction, and
breeds horror and violence and death.  The all powerful
father indeed.

It has become time to AWAKEN from all this.  For there is
nothing but destruction there for us.  And contrary to the
actions of a lot of belief systems today, we cannot simply
shout it into existance, nor wish it to be so.  The father,
for now, is unattainable.  The Father, The Light,  The Star
we call our Sun,  simply IS.

And like any great mistake this has exacted an equally great
price.  What we must hope is that the price is not the Life
of the Human Race.  Because what we have ignored while being
blinded into unseeing, is our responsibility to our
MOTHER.   Earth-Image Life-Giver, she is the immediate
environment from which are born, and subsist.  We have
become tricked into selling her body, instead of honoring
it.  All to our sad shame, for in a very real way,  SHE is
US.  The health of her body is OUR health.  If she is made
Holy, so are we.  If she is foul, so are we.  None can
escape this fact, however hard they try.  The Earth Our
Mother is really all that IS attainable to us, yet we
wantonly disregard her welfare.  OUR welfare.  From my
perspective  within this brutally beautiful universe I say
in ALL seriousness:
 WE MUST HONOR OUR MOTHER THE EARTH OR DIE.
It will take the combined military forces of the world a
century at least to restore the human habitat, the human
Mother, to a somewhat normal and clean state.  As a
concerned member of the human family I suggest we get busy
quickly.  The total legalization of cannabis hemp will be a
wonderful first step in righting the wrongs caused by
forsaking that which gave us birth.  I hope we still have
time.

This is my Beltaine Gift to you.  Rejoice in the name of
Gaia.



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 In a message dated 99-07-17 07:43:47 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A really interesting posting.  Thanks.  It lets me view Aristotle ina whole
 new light.

 You should read Aristotle's essay on "democracy" (ha) as the Greeks
 understood it, in which existence of a non-"citizen" slave class is
 justified.  Appalling and enlightening.

 Next time we hear "experts" propound "Western Civilization's" official party
 line --that our "democratic" tradition had its source in Greece and Rome--
 let's not forget that the norm among those "founding fathers" of "democracy"
 and, a bit more accurately, the institution of the so-called "republic," were
 in fact aristocratic elitists, class oligarchs.
 Our tradition DID originate in Greece and Rome -- in their de facto FEUDAL
 system.

 The sooner we all realize that the same old ancient CON-GAME
 --institutionalizing the economic/political class-dichotomy bertween
 "fortunate" masters (effortlessly "born to rule" simply by birth and marriage
 -- a fact completely unjustifiable except by invoking pre-and after-life
 "karma" or equivalent deterministic myths ) and their "unlucky," by
 "necessity" hard-working, slaves (serfs)-- continues to this very day, the
 better we can all deal with REALITY, "free at last" from an archetypally,
 culturally, and ideologically conditioned state of hypnosis, designed to
 reinforce our "slave morality" and mentality.

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--- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   AMERICA'S DARK SECRET
   - The Port Chicago Disaster -

  In 1944, the Port Chicago disaster killed hundreds of Americans in a
single blast. Was it an accident, or was it America's first atomic weapons
test?
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   Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 3, #4 (June-July '96).PO Box 30,
Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Originally found in articles written by Robert L. Allen  Peter Vogel
as published in THE BLACK SCHOLAR, Journal of Black Studies 
Research,Volume 13, Numbers 2 and 3 - Spring 1982
 _

   On the night of 17th July 1944, two transport vessels loading
ammunition at the Port Chicago (California) naval base on the Sacramento
River were suddenly engulfed in a gigantic explosion. The incredible blast
wrecked the naval base and heavily damaged the small town of Port Chicago,
located 1.5 miles away. Some 320 American naval personnel were killed
instantly. The two ships and the large loading pier were totally
annihilated. Several hundred people were injured, and millions of dollars
in property damage was caused by the huge blast. Windows were shattered in
towns 20 miles away, and the glare of the explosion could be seen in San
Francisco, some 35 miles away. It was the worst home-front disaster of
World War II. Officially, the world's first atomic test explosion occurred
on 16th July 1945 at Alamogordo, New Mexico; but the Port Chicago blast
may well have been the world's first atomic detonation, whether accidental
or not.

   THE SHIP

The E. A. Bryan, the ship which exploded at Port Chicago, was a 7,212-ton
EC-2 Liberty ship commanded by Captain John L. M. Hendricks of San Pedro,
California, and operated by Oliver J. Olson AMP; Co., San Francisco. It
was built and launched at the Kaiser Steel shipyard in Richmond,
California, in March 1944. She made a maiden voyage to the South Pacific
and then was ordered into the US Navy's Alameda Shipyards where the
five-ton (10,000-pound maximum load) booms and gear on the no. 1 and no. 5
holds were removed and replaced with 10-ton booms and gear. It then docked
at Port Chicago on 13th July 1944. At 8.00 am on 14th July, naval
personnel began loading ammunition.

   The E. A. Bryan had been moored at Port Chicago for four days, taking
on ammunition and explosives night and day. Some 98 men of Division Three
were hard at work loading the Bryan, and by 10.00 pm on 17th July the ship
was loaded with some 4,600 tons of munitions including 1,780 tons of high
explosives.

   The second ship, the Quinalt Victory, was brand new; it was preparing
for its maiden voyage. The Quinalt Victory had moored at Port Chicago at
about 6.00 pm on the evening of 17th July. Some 102 men of the Sixth
Division, many of whom had only recently arrived at Port Chicago, were
busy rigging the ship in preparation for loading of ammunition which was
due to begin by midnight.

   In addition to the enlisted men present, there were nine Navy officers,
67 members of the crews of the two ships along with an Armed Guard detail
of 29 men, five crew members of a Coast Guard fire barge, a Marine sentry
and a number of civilian employees. The pier was congested with men,
equipment, a locomotive, 16 railroad boxcars, and about 430 tons of bombs
and projectiles waiting to be loaded.

   Most of the enlisted men, upon first arriving at Port Chicago, were
quite fearful of the explosives they were expected to handle. But, over
time, many of the men simply accommodated themselves to the work situation
by discounting the risk of an explosion. Most men readily accepted the
officers' assurances that the bombs could not explode because they had no
detonators.

   THE EXPLOSION

Just before 10.20 pm, a massive explosion occurred at the pier. To some
observers it appeared that two explosions, only a few seconds apart,
occurred: a first and smaller blast was felt; this was followed quickly by
a cataclysmic explosion as the E. A. Bryan went off like one gigantic
bomb, sending a column of fire and smoke more than 12,000 feet into the
night sky.

   Everyone on the pier and aboard the two ships was killed instantly-some
320 men, 200 of whom were black enlisted men. Very few intact bodies were
recovered. Another 390 military and civilian personnel were injured,
including 226 black enlisted men. This single, stunning disaster accounted
for almost one-fifth of all black naval casualties during the whole of
World War II. Property damage, military and civilian, was estimated at
more than US$12 million.

   The E. A. Bryan was literally blown to bits. Very little of its
wreckage was ever found. The Quinalt Victory was lifted clear out of the
water by the blast, turned around and 

[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentaries July 17 Vandana Shiva

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MONSANTO'S EXPANDING MONOPOLIES
FROM SEED TO WATER


by Dr. Vandana Shiva

Over the past few years, Monsanto, a chemical company, has positioned
itself as an agricultural company through control over seed the first link
in the food chain. Monsanto now wants to control water, the very basis of
life.

In 1996, Monsanto bought the biotechnology assets of Agracetus, a
subsidiary of W.R. GRACE, for $150 million and Calagene, a California
based plant biotechnology company for $340 million. In 1997, Monsanto
acquired Holden seeds, the Brazilian seed company Sementes Agrocerus and
Asgrow. In 1998, Monsanto purchased Cargill's seed operations for $1.4
billion. It bought Delta and Pine land for $1.82 billion and Dekalb for
$2.3 billion. It bought Unilever's European wheat breeding business for
$525 million. In India Monsanto has bought Mahyco, Maharashtra Hybrid
Company, E.I.D. Parry and Rallis. Mr.Jack Kennedy of Monsanto has stated
"We propose to penetrate the Indian Agricultural sector in a big way.
MAHYCO is a good vehicle." According to Robert Farley of Monsanto "what
you are seeing is not just a consolidation of seed companies, it is really
a consolidation of the entire food chain. Since water is an central to
food production as seed is, and without water life is not possible.
Monsanto is now trying to establish its control over water. During 1999
Monsanto plans to launch a new water business, starting with India and
Mexico since both these countries are facing water shortages.

Monsanto is seeing a new business opportunity in water because of the
emerging water crisis and the funding available to make this vital
resource available to people. As it states in its strategy paper, "first
we believe that discontinuities (either major policy changes or major
trendline breaks in resource quality or quantity) are likely, particularly
in the area of water and we will be well positioned via these business to
profit even more significantly when these discontinuities occur. Second,
we are exploring the potential of non-conventional financing (NGO's, World
Bank, USDA etc.) that may lower our investment or provide local country
business building resources." Thus, the crisis of pollution and depletion
of water resources is viewed by Monsanto as a business opportunity. For
Monsanto "Sustainable Development" means the conversion of an ecological
crisis into a market of scarce resources. "The business logic of
sustainable development is that population growth and economic development
will apply increasing pressure on natural resource markets. These
pressures and the world's desire to prevent the consequences of these
pressures if unabated, will create vast economic opportunity when we look
at the world through the lens of sustainability we are in a position to
see current and foresee impending resource market trends and imbalances
that create market needs. We have further focussed this lens on the
resource market of water and land.

These are the markets that are most relevant to us as a life sciences
company committed to delivering "food, health and hope" to the world, and
there are markets in which there are predictable sustainability challenges
and therefore opportunities to create business value." Monsanto plans to
earn revenues of $420 million and net income of $63 million by 2008 from
its water business in India and Mexico. By the year 2010 about 2.5 billion
people in the world are projected to lack access to safe drinking water.
At least 30% of the population in China, India, Mexico and US is expected
to face severe water stress. By the year 2025 the supply of water in India
will be 700 cubic kilometers per year while the demand is expected to rise
to 1050 units. Control over this scarce and vital resource will of course
be a source of guaranteed profits. As John Bastin of the European Bank of
Reconstruction and Development has stated "Water is the last
infrastructure frontier for Private investors." Monsanto estimates that
providing safe water is a several billion dollar market. It is growing at
25 - 30% in rural communities and is estimated to be $300 million by the
year 2000 

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[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

From Int'l Herald Tribune

 Paris, Saturday, July 17, 1999


 British Press Chases the 'Huns' Again and Germans Feel the Pain


 -
 --- By William Drozdiak Washington Post Service
 -
 --- BERLIN - Britain and Germany are at war again. But this
 time, the battlefield is splattered with ink rather than blood.

 The leaders of the two allies, Prime Minister Tony Blair and
 Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, get along famously as kindred souls
 who espouse the same kind of centrist social democracy. But
 newspapers in both countries have been waging a viciously
 chauvinistic campaign that would make readers think the Blitz is
 still going on.

 For months, the war of words has steadily escalated. British
 commentators have suggested that moving the seat of Germany's
 government back to Berlin will resurrect Nazi ghosts, hinting at
 an evil Teutonic gene that will strive to channel a secret power
 lust into leadership of a European super-state. In turn, a new
 generation of German writers and diplomats, feeling more
 liberated by virtue of what former Chancellor Helmut Kohl called
 a ''late birth,'' have struck back at the Brits by accusing them
 of engaging in a xenophobic frenzy rooted in the insecurity of a
 lost empire.

 Despite appeals for restraint by Mr. Blair and Mr. Schroeder, the
 broadsides reached an unprecedented degree of animosity this week
 after A.A. Gill unleashed a brutal diatribe in The Sunday Times
 of London lamenting the ''undiluted misery, humiliation and
 groveling apology'' of German history. One possible remedy, he
 suggested, would be to hang a sign on the Brandenburg Gate
 emblazoned with the slogan, ''Amnesia Macht Frei.''

 ''By any measure you care to choose, the creation of a greater
 Germany has been the greatest disaster, the cause of more misery
 than any other political act in our continent's history,'' Mr.
 Gill wrote. ''What can they do to stop us seeing them as Europe's
 psychopaths?''

 The article stirred feelings of public outrage rarely seen in
 modern Germany, where a stoic response to the Nazi label was long
 considered the price to pay for postwar reconciliation and a new
 sense of European kinship. But with the ascendancy of Mr.
 Schroeder, who claims to represent the 50 million Germans, or
 two-thirds of the population, without any personal ties to the
 war, there has been a clear tendency to fight back and defend
 national interests.

 Within the past few months, Germany has stunned its partners by
 insisting it would no longer accept paying the highest net
 contribution, about $12 billion a year, to the European Union.
 Recently, Mr. Schroeder declared his cabinet would boycott
 informal EU ministerial sessions unless German was recognized as
 an official working language along with English and French.

 Gebhardt von Moltke, Germany's ambassador to London, said he very
 rarely feels moved to take up his pen in response to an article.
 But after reading the Sunday Times piece, he fired off a letter
 to its editor, John Witherow, complaining about its ''profound
 xenophobia'' and the detrimental impact it would have on
 relations between the two countries.

 What disturbed Mr. von Moltke, and many other Germans, was what
 he described as the ''irresponsible'' way of reviving hostile
 stereotypes and denigrating a half-century of Germany's
 accomplishments as a faithful, trustworthy member of the Western
 alliance of democracies.

 ''Germany is the country that invented the idea of
 predestination, the Lutheran concept of being born into a sin,
 and it is only in Germany that I've ever really understood what
 that truly means,'' Mr. Gill said. ''For hating the Hun is
 perhaps the only thing that truly emulsifies the rest of us.''

 The characterizations shocked many Germans, even those with close
 ties to Britain. ''It's racist rant, pure and simple,'' said
 Thomas Kielinger, London correspondent for the German newspaper
 Die Welt. ''There is a place for provocative journalism and views
 of an inbred little Englander, but this really went beyond the
 bounds of decency.''

 Many of the anti-German tirades have been uncorked by newspapers
 controlled by the publisher Rupert Murdoch. In February, The Sun
 tabloid branded Germany's then Finance Minister Oskar Lafontaine
 as ''the most dangerous man in Europe'' because of his strong
 support for a single currency. When Mr. Lafontaine left politics
 a few weeks later after losing a power struggle with Mr.
 Schroeder, the Sun exulted in a front-page headline: ''Ve haf
 vays of making you quit.''

 When the former Tory minister Lord Tebbit disparaged Mr. Blair's
 efforts to build a working relationship with the German
 chancellor by saying, ''If Blair wants to be in step with
 Schroeder, he will have to learn the goose-step,'' the political
 writer Hugo Young said it was