[CTRL] Kreeping Kopping

1999-08-21 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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These relate to personal privacy but also to issues relating
to 'Freedom of the Press', "Free Speech', and the rights of the
citizenry to conduct their lives without undue gov't intrusion.
They're also related to the The Strange Case of Ed Moloney (from
No Ireland) but pertain specifically to the US of A.


From EPIC

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 August 20, 1999

  NEW WHITE HOUSE COMPUTER SURVEILLANCE PLAN
  WOULD POSE UNPRECEDENTED THREAT TO PRIVACY

 WASHINGTON, DC -- The Electronic Privacy Information Center
 (EPIC) today warned that a new Clinton Administration proposal
 could result in an unprecedented intrusion into the sanctity of
 private homes and businesses.  The White House plan would enable
 federal and local law enforcement agents to secretly break into
 private premises and alter computer equipment to collect e-mail
 messages and other electronic information.   As the Washington
 Post reported today, the administration is circulating draft
 legislation known as the "Cyberspace Electronic Security Act,"
 the latest White House effort to address the growing use of
 encryption technology.  As described in an August 4 analysis of
 the legislation obtained by EPIC, the proposal would amend
 current law to authorize "the alteration of hardware or software
 that allows plaintext to be obtained even if attempts were made
 to protect it through encryption."  Courts would, for the first
 time, be able to approve covert police entries into homes and
 offices for the purposes of making such alterations.   "This
 strikes at the heart of the Bill of Rights," said David L. Sobel,
 EPIC's General Counsel.  "It would be truly ironic if the use of
 encryption -- which is designed to protect privacy -- gave the
 police a green light to secretly break into homes." Surreptitious
 physical entries are extremely rare under existing surveillance
 laws.  Such entries are only made in order to install hidden
 microphones, an investigative technique approved only 50 times by
 federal and state judges last year.  According to Sobel,
 "extending this extraordinary power to cases involving computer
 files would make police break-ins far more common than they are
 today."   The latest administration proposal on computer
 surveillance comes on the heels of the "FIDNET" initiative, a
 planned government program that would monitor activity within
 both federal and private sector computer networks.  When the
 details of that proposal became widely known earlier this month,
 it met with strong criticism from privacy groups (including EPIC)
 and members of Congress.   EPIC is a public interest research
 center in Washington, D.C. It was established in 1994 to focus
 public attention on emerging civil liberties issues and to
 protect privacy, the First Amendment, and constitutional values.
 EPIC is a project of the Fund for Constitutional Government. EPIC
 works in association with Privacy International, an international
 human rights group based in London, UK and is also a member of
 the Global Internet Liberty Campaign, the Internet Free
 Expression Alliance and the Internet Privacy Coalition.   The
 EPIC website is located at http://www.epic.org
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From www.freedomforum.org/press

 Reno newspaper, TV station ask judge to bar newsroom searches

 By The Associated Press

 8.19.99

 • What do you think? Have your say in The Forum.

 PicturePicture: Christopher Lee...Christopher Lee Merritt
 listens to questions during a jailhouse interview. Picture

 RENO, Nev. — The issue of county prosecutors who want search
 warrants to seize material from newsrooms is back before a Washoe
 District Court judge.

 The Reno Gazette-Journal and KTVN-TV asked Judge Peter Breen on
 Aug. 17 to curb the practice. Breen gave no indication when he
 would rule.

 The issue stems from an attempt by District Attorney Richard
 Gammick to seize television footage and reporters' notes
 following interviews Jan. 6 of Christopher Lee Merritt.

 Merritt allegedly closed down Interstate 80 west of Reno a few
 days earlier when he fired shots at cars on the highway.

 Merritt gave jailhouse interviews to several reporters and
 Gammick sought to obtain documentation of those interviews.
 Merritt faces trial later this year on six counts of attempted
 murder and other charges.

 "If you're going to go to a business engaged in First Amendment
 activities, you have to subpoena first, and then use a search
 warrant as a last resort," KTVN lawyer Bill Magrath told the
 judge.

 Magrath and lawyer Phil Bartlett, representing the
 Gazette-Journal, told Breen a federal law specifically prohibits
 newsroom searches with a few exceptions, which did not apply in
 this case.

 They asked Breen to enter an order requiring the district
 attorney's office to alert justices of the peace to the existence
 of the federal law if newsroom search warrants are sought again.

 Chief Deputy District Attorney Thomas 

[CTRL] Fluoride quotes, #1

1999-08-21 Thread Dave

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Famous Quotes on Fluorides and Fluoridation  part 1/3

"The best way to beat the antifluoride zealots, these health terrorists, is
to to fluoridate their water supply."
- Dr.Michael Easley, ADA Fluoridation Spokesman, August 7, 1996

"We have told the public that fluoridation works, so we can't go back on
that."
- F.A. Bull, at the 1951 Dental Health Conference in Washington, D.C.

"Ever since the Public Health Service (PHS) endorsed fluoridation in 1950,
detractors have charged that PHS and the medical and dental establishment,
such as the American Medical Association (AMA) and the American Dental
Association (ADA), have suppressed adverse scientific information about its
effects. Some of those who generally support fluoridation make similar
charges. For example, Zev Remba, the Washington Bureau editor of AGD Impact,
the monthly publication of the Academy of General Dentistry, wrote last year
that supporters of fluoridation have had an "unwillingness to release any
information that would cast fluorides in a negative light," and that
organized dentistry has lost "its objectivity - the ability to consider
varying viewpoints together with scientific data to reach a sensible
conclusion."  Hileman B, Fluoridation of Water, Chemical  Engineering News,
1988 August 1, 66, pp 26-42

"Most of the world has rejected fluoridation. Only America where it
originated, and countries under strong American influence persist in the
practice. Denmark banned fluoridation when its National Agency for
Environmental Protection, after consulting the widest possible range of
scientific sources, pointed out that the long-term effects of low fluoride
intakes on certain groups in the population (for example, persons with
reduced kidney function), were insufficiently known . Sweden also rejected
fluoridation on the recommendation of a special Fluoride Commission, which
included among its reasons that: "The combined and long-term environmental
effects of fluoride are insufficiently known" . Holland banned fluoridation
after a group of medical practitioners presented evidence that it caused
reversible neuromuscular and gastrointestinal harm to some individuals in
the population . Environmental scientists, as well as many others, tend to
doubt fluoridation. In the United States, scientists employed by the
Environmental Protection Agency have publicly disavowed support for their
employer's pro-fluoridation policies . The orthodox medical establishment,
rather weak or even ignorant on environmental issues, persist in their
support, as do most dentists, who tend to be almost fanatical about the
subject. In English- speaking countries, unfortunately, the medical
profession and its allied pharmaceutical lobby (the people who sell
fluoride) seem to have more political influence than environmentalists."
Dr. John Colquhoun, the former Chief Dental Officer of Auckland, NZ., 1997

"Fluorides are general protoplasmic poisons, probably because of their
capacity to modify the metabolism of cells by chenging the permeability of
the cell membrane and by inhibiting certain enzyme systems. The exact
mechanism of such actions is obscure." Journal of the American Medical
Association, Sept 18, 1943.

"Three different studies in Japan, the United States and India examined the
dental records of 445,000 children living in areas with increased levels of
naturally occurring fluoride (calcium fluoride) in the water. In ALL cases,
an INCREASED level of tooth decay was correlated with INCREASED levels of
fluoride. Many people believe the propaganda that "fluoridated water
'prevents' tooth decay", YET no laboratory study or epidemiological study
supports this claim. On the contrary, a study of 26,405 children in New
Zealand found the most decay in children living in areas WITH artificially
fluoridated water. " Orthomolecular Medicine, Vol 8 No. 3, 1993

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[CTRL] Fluoride quotes #3

1999-08-21 Thread Dave

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Famous Quotes on Fluorides and Fluoridation  part 3/3
"We ought to go slowly. Everybody knows that fluorine and fluorides are very
poisonous substances and we use them in enzyme chemistry to poison enzymes,
those vital agents in the body. That is the reason things are poisoned;
because enzymes are poisoned, and that is why animals and plants die." Mr.
James B. Sumner, Director of Enzyme Chemistry, Department of Biochemistry
and Nutrition, Cornell University, and a Nobel Prize winner for his work in
the field of enzyme chemistry.

"No study in the past three decades has demonstrated any significant dental
benefit from fluoridation. The older historical studies, on which claims of
dental benefit are based, are so seriously flawed that most independent
researchers conclude they should be ignored. In fact, several recent
studies, here and abroad, show that fluoridation is correlated with higher
caries rates, rather than lower ones." John R. Lee, M.D."The Truth About
Fluoridation"

"It is known as a scientific fact that fluoride is a deadly poison to
enzymes, upon which all life depends." Dr. J.J. Rae, 20-year associate
professor of chemistry, and Ph.D. in biochemistry and organics, Univ. of
Toronto.

"The fluoride ion exerts its toxic effect by inhibiting the action of many
enzyme systems." Hugo Theorell, M.D.,  Nobel Prize winner for his research
in the field of enzyme chemistry.

"Contrary to what is widely assumed, the toxicity of fluoride is not always
related to concentration. Under certain conditions fluoride toxicity
actually increases as the concentration decreases. This is what is known as
a paradoxical effect." Albert Schatz, Ph.D., M.C.R.S., Professor at the
Univ. of Chile and co-discoverer of streptomycin.

"The debate should not be the merits of fluoridation of the water supply,
which is a public health problem, but rather the ethical aspects of
universal fluoridation which creates an untenable situation for those
individuals who are intolerant to fluorides. Do we have the moral right to
create a situation from which the intolerant individual has no escape? The
answer thus becomes very simple. Each individual should be granted the
option to choose fluoride prophylaxis depending upon his need and tolerance.
You have my permission to state my position and quote me as against
universal fluoridation of the water supply." Ben F. Feingold, M.D., Chief
Emeritus, Department of Allergy, Kaiser Permanente Medical Center, San
Francisco Calif.
(Dr. Feingold headed an organization which cares for hyperactive children,
which has found, incidentally, that fluoride causes a severe adverse
reaction upon the nervous system of hyperactive children. Coincidentally,
so-called "Attention-Deficit-Disorder" or "A.D.D." is a common misdiagnosis
for hyperactive or overly-enthusiastic children, and for which RITALIN is
commonly prescribed. Thus, when a hyperactive child has an adverse reaction
to FLUORIDE, he's commonly put on destructive RITALIN or fluoridated PROZAC
as a "cure.")


"It is of doubtful legality; it offends deep convictions concerning
doctoring without consent; it is against the medical tradition of care for
the individual; against the function of a public water supply; against sane
economics; against the considered opinion of eminent nutritionists,
biochemists, physiologists, pharmacologists, allergists, toxicologists;
above all, it is against natural caution and common sense." Dr. C. G. Dobbs,
Prof. of Microbiology, Univ. of North Wales, Associate Royal College of
Science, formerly at King's College, Univ. of London.

" Hereford, Texas has been called the TOWN WITHOUT A TOOTH ACHE. This is not
true. But the phrase has been used effectively by the people interested in
marketing SODIUM FLUORIDE all over the country. ...I believe that fluorine
does in a mild way, retard cavities, but I also believe that the damage it
does is far greater than any good it may appear to accomplish. It even makes
the teeth so brittle and crumbly they can be treated only with difficulty,
if at all. The dental investigators who came to our county some fifteen
years ago did, in my opinion, make a serious mistake when they gave fluorine
the credit for our good teeth, and overlooked the quality of food grown in
our rich, well mineralized soil. Every person I found who had no dental
caries, consumed much milk. Why use a poison, when correct food will
maintain our bodies free from diseases and tooth decay? It is hellish and
non-American to put poison in city water supplies and force citizens to
drink it." George W. Heard, DDS, 15 March 1954.

" ... My contact with fluoridation came about as a result of cancer
research. In one project, various chemicals were added to the drinking water
of mice susceptible to cancer in order to check the responsibility that some
chemicals might delay the onset of the disease or prevent it altogether.
Among the 

[CTRL] Fluoride quotes #2

1999-08-21 Thread Dave

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Famous Quotes on Fluorides and Fluoridation  part 2/3

" Intelligence was measured in 907 children aged 8-13 years living in areas
which differed in the amount of fluoride present in the environment. The
Intelligence Quotient of children living in areas with a medium or severe
prevalance of fluorosis was slower than that of children living in areas
with only slith fluorosis or no fluorosis. The development of intelligence
appeared to be adversely affected by fluoride. A high fluoride intake was
associated with lower intelligence. The effect of exposure to a high level
of fluoride on intelligence may occur at an early stage of development of
the embryo and infant when the differentiation of brain nerve cells is
occurring, and development is most rapid." A 1995 report published in
Fluoride, Vol 20 No. 4, pp.189-192, "Effect of Fluoride Exposure on
Intelligence of Children", X.S. Li et al, done in Guizhou, China

"In regard to the use of fluosilicic acid as a source of fluorides for
fluoridation, this Agency regards such as as AN IDEAL ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTION
TO A LONG-STANDING PROBLEM. BY RECOVERING BY-PRODUCT FLUOSILICIC ACID FROM
FERTILIZER MANUFACTURING, WATER AND AIR POLLUTION ARE MINIMIZED, AND WATER
UTILITIES HAVE A LOW-COST SOURCE OF FLUORIDE AVAILABLE TO THEM." Rebecca
Hammer, EPA Deputy Assistance Administrator for Water, March 30 1983, letter
to Leslie A. Russell, D.M.D., Newtonville, Mass..

"I find that people are simply not willing to believe that our government
would condone the addition of a compound to the water supply that was not
efficacious. This is why in my opinion it has not been possible to convince
enough people of conscience to review the fluoride story. You must remember
that the National Academy of Science released a report that sort of said
fluoridation was OK. They do not know that the members hand-picked for the
panel were known to be pro-fluoridation. They were not present when the
pathologist from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology stated that any
bone or tooth structure that contains fluoride is weak, crumbling and highly
undesirable. They were not present when the board calculated that the amount
of fluoride ingested daily was far higher than previously believed. They
discovered that soft drinks including, Coke, Pepsi and Seven-Up were made by
diluting concentrate with fluoridated water. That Kool-Aid, baby formula
etc. also would have fluoride. They were informed that these exposures were
not considered by EPA when setting the current standard." William L. Marcus,
Ph.D., Senior Science Advisor, Office of Science and Technology,EPA.

"In view of the extensive evidence contradicting contrary claims based to a
considerable degree on flawed research, mandatory addition of industrial
waste fluoride (from the phosphate fertilizer industry) to public water
supplies clearly requires careful scrutiny and at present can hardly be seen
as justified or desirable." Albert W. Burgstahler, Ph.D.,Professor of
Chemistry, The University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas.

"Existing data indicate that subsets of the population may be unusually
susceptible to the toxic effects of fluoride and its compounds. These
populations include the elderly, people with magnesium deficiency, and
people with cardiovascular and kidney problems. ... Poor nutrition increases
the incidence and severity of dental fluorosis and skeletal fluorosis." U.S.
Dept. of Health, Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Division
of Toxicology, December 16, 1991. "Toxicological Profile for Fluorides,
Hydrogen Fluoride, and Fluorine(F)".

"Recent studies suggest that fluoride may increase the risk of hip fracture.
This cohort study compared the incidence of femoral neck fractures in a
community with longstanding water fluoridation (to 1 ppm) with the incidence
in two communities without water fluoridation (less than 0.3 ppm)."Danielson
C et al; Hip fractures and fluoridation in Utah's elderly population.
Journal of the American Medical Association, 1992 Aug 12; 268:746-8.

"In January 1987, experiments performed at the Medical Research
Endocrinology Dept., Newcastle upon Tyne, England, and the Physics Dept of
the Univ. of Ruhana, Sri Lanka, showed that fluoridated water at 1 ppm, when
used in cooking in aluminum cookware, concentrated the aluminum up to 600
ppm, whereas water without fluoride did not." (Science News, 131:73)

"The plain fact that fluorine is an insidious poison, harmful, toxic and
cumulative in its effects, even when ingested in minimal amounts, will
remain unchanged no matter how many times it will be repeated in print that
fluoridation of the water supply is 'safe'." Ludwig Gross, M.D., former
Chief of Veterans Administration Cancer Research, Bronx, NY.

"Fluorides are violent poisons to all living tissue because of their
precipitation of calcium. They cause fall of blood pressure, respiratory
failure, 

[CTRL] FW: Associated Press 8/20: Military predicts Y2K chaos

1999-08-21 Thread Dave

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forwarded...

Dave Hartley
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Olsen
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 6:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: {Y2K} Military predicts Y2K chaos




 Associated Press, Aug 20, 1999


   U.S. military predicts much worse Y2K chaos than White House
   does

   WASHINGTON (AP) - A U.S. military report predicts widespread
   "probable" or "likely" failures in important power and water
   systems for many cities in the United States because of the
   Year 2000 technology problem, a far more dire assessment
   than anything the White House has made.

   President Bill Clinton's top Y2K adviser, John Koskinen,
   called the conclusions overly pessimistic in the study by
   navy and marine base commanders worldwide. He said the
   military is assuming major utilities will fail unless proven
   otherwise.

   The most recent version of the study, updated less than two
   weeks ago, predicted "probable" or "likely" partial failures
   in electric utilities that serve nearly 60 of roughly 400
   navy and marine facilities.

   The study predicted "likely" partial electrical failures,
   for example, in the new year at bases and offices in
   Orlando, Fla.; Gulfport, Miss.; Fort Lauderdale, Fla.; and
   nine other small- to mid-size cities.

   It also predicted "probable" partial water system failures
   in Dallas; Nashville, Tenn.; Houston; Baton Rouge, La.;
   Montgomery, Ala.; Tulsa, Okla.; and 59 other cities.

   The study forecast likely partial natural-gas failures - in
   the middle of winter - in Nashville; Albany, N.Y.; Columbus,
   Ohio; Fort Worth, Texas; Pensacola, Fla.; and Charleston,
   S.C.

   The military report contrasts sharply with predictions from
   the White House, which said in its own report just weeks ago
   that national electrical failures are "highly unlikely." The
   White House report also said disruptions in water service
   from the date rollover were "increasingly unlikely."

   Koskinen, who vouched for the authenticity of the navy
   report, noted nevertheless that all its worst-case
   predictions for failures were marked as "interim" or
   "partial" assessments.

   "It's not nearly as interesting as the world coming to an
   end," said Koskinen.

   "The way they worked was, until you have information for
   contingency planning purposes, you ought to assume there was
   a problem."

   The Year 2000 problem may occur because some computer
   programs, especially older ones, might fail when the date
   changes to 2000. Because the programs were written to
   recognize only the last two digits of a year, such programs
   could read the digits "00" as 1900, potentially causing
   problems with financial transactions, airline schedules and
   electrical grids.

   The navy report was first summarized this week on an
   Internet site run by Jim Lord, a Y2K author, who said he
   obtained it "from a confidential source of the highest
   reliability and integrity."

   "The military has to work from the worst case but so do we,"
   Lord said Thursday.

   "It's reprehensible for them to know this and keep it from
   us."

   Koskinen said the navy isn't withholding information from
   anyone, noting the continually updated report was available
   until recently on a Web site maintained by the U.S. Defence
   Department.

   "The last people in the world the department is going to
   keep information from is their own people," Koskinen said.

   "In fact, the whole purpose of the exercise is to make sure
   they can provide appropriate information to servicemen on
   their bases and their families."

© The Canadian Press, 1999

   Copyright © 1999 Southam Inc. All rights reserved.


   .
   Bob Olsen, Toronto  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[CTRL] Warnings cost Pentagon lawyer his job (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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08/20/99- Updated 12:35 AM ET



  Warnings cost Pentagon lawyer his
  job

  By Edward T. Pound, USA TODAY

  WASHINGTON - The general counsel of the Defense
  Security Service was removed and transferred to
  another Pentagon agency after he repeatedly warned
  superiors they were violating government regulations by
  taking shortcuts on security background investigations.

  In a series of interviews, several current and former
  Defense Department officials said counsel Thomas
  Willess was moved to the National Imagery and
  Mapping Agency in September 1998.

  During the prior two years, they say, Willess cautioned
  his superiors against relaxing investigative standards for

  background reviews. They either ignored him or in other
  cases didn't consult him, officials say.

  Background reviews are essential to safeguarding
  government secrets. The security service does about
  120,000 reviews each year on employees of the Defense
  Department and military contractors.

  The disclosure of Willess' removal takes on added
  significance in the wake of a draft report done by the
  General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of
  Congress. According to government officials, the GAO
  says top security service managers changed policies and
  relaxed standards, contrary to regulations and despite
  objections of other officials.

  The standards must be followed by agencies doing
  background checks. They include examining financial
  and law-enforcement records, verifying citizenship and
  interviewing neighbors and candidates.

  The GAO said 92% of the investigations it reviewed did
  not fully meet the standards. The security service's new
  managers vow to fix the problems.

  The GAO report covered the tenures of two directors.
  Margaret Munson left in March 1998. She was
  succeeded by Steven Schanzer, who was removed in
  June amidst major management problems. Both Munson
  and Schanzer declined comment.

  In a statement, Willess would say only that he had "taken
  positions that were not always in lockstep" with them.

  Current and former officials say Willess argued that the
  standards couldn't be changed unilaterally. When the
  agency decided to do many interviews by telephone in
  an effort to save money, he objected.

  Willess has never been given a reason for his transfer.
  He also reports to the Pentagon's Office of General
  Counsel. He told associates he was called to that office
  last August and informed of his transfer. The Pentagon
  declined comment.

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[CTRL] Surreptitious Encryption Search Proposal (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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The Honorable Janet Reno
Department of Justice
Washington, D.C.  20530

IN RE: Surreptitious Encryption Search Proposal

Dear Attorney General Reno:

Over the past year, proposals by the Administration to sacrifice
civil liberties on the altar of law enforcement have bubbled up
with frightening regularity.  However, none of those proposals
represents such a dramatic shift as the Department of Justice's
suggestion for special new search warrants allowing agents to
enter homes and surreptitiously examine computers and disable
encryption.

According to reports, you seek to institute an unprecedented and
dangerous special search procedure that would apply only to
computers.  This proposal suffers from serious constitutional
flaws.  It blatantly violates the Fourth Amendment's requirement
of particularity by giving agents open-ended authority to engage
in wholesale rummaging through a person's computer after breaking
into their home or business.

Allowing the warrant to be executed in secret also raises due
process issues.  As Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act courts
have shown, the absence of public disclosure results in a very
low rate of denied warrants. Instituting an analogous procedure
for domestic searches would likely result in a similar
"rubber-stamp" process.

Assigning a vastly lower level of legal protection to an entire
class of communications also raises significant equal protection
questions.  Such a system would give those Americans who choose
to use or own computers much lower Fourth Amendment protections
than those who don't.  It makes no sense to pass a law that
establishes a de facto presumption of guilt for anyone who keeps
a computer in their home or business.

This proposal demonstrates how addicted federal law enforcement
has become to electronic surveillance.  In my opinion, this
addiction threatens both civil liberties and the effectiveness of
law enforcement.  If we continue to encourage agents to
investigate exclusively by surveillance, we risk losing the
ability to build cases by traditional -- and frequently more
effective -- means.  Furthermore, we end up placing too much
trust in technologies that can easily be countered by
sophisticated criminals.

I urge you to retract this proposal and not send it to Congress.
Frankly, its chances of being anything other than dead on arrival
at Capitol Hill are slim to none.  In an environment of
increasing congressional skepticism toward law enforcement
surveillance requests, a suggestion as patently absurd as this
one will seriously damage your credibility, and diminish your
chances of working with Congress to fine tune widely-supported
encryption legislation, such as the S.A.F.E. act.

With kind regards, I am,

very truly yours,




BOB BARR Member of Congress


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[CTRL] Fw: Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

1999-08-21 Thread David Crockett Williams

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World War Three started via IBM in 1954?


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357/silent.html


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[CTRL] NSA mind control and psyops (http://www.sonic.net/~west/nsamindcontrol.htm)

1999-08-21 Thread David Crockett Williams

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http://www.sonic.net/~west/nsamindcontrol.htm

Apparent technology details on how increasing incidents of social violence
caused.


NSA Initiated Execution to Cover-up in Music:
Curt Cobain of the musical group "Nirvana" was another victim of NSA
brainwashing and was terminated by NSA. Cobain had started writing clues to
the NSA activities into his music to communicate it to his music followers.
He referred in music to the NSA as the "Friends inside his head". Once the
NSA puts on the highest level of brainwashing pain, the subject expires
quickly. Cobain used heroin to numb and otherwise slow the effect of the
brainwashing. 



Musical references of NSA Technology:
Talking Heads; a music group popular in the eighties, wrote a song
explaining the scientific process of the NSA's brainwashing technology in a
song called "Wild Wild Life". The song gave an example of what the audible
transmission sounded like at the end of the song (like a tape on fast
forward). They mentioned in the song that "They (NSA) talk so fast…" and
that the musical group had spent "All their time and money…" unsuccessfully
trying to find a place that the NSA would not be able to harass them. The
Talking Heads exposed the technology, gave an example of what it sounds
like, scenarios of how the NSA might select you for the brainwashing, and
the scope of the electronic surveillance system. 

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[CTRL] Pentagon Papers of Y2K about the coming World Crisis

1999-08-21 Thread David Crockett Williams

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US Navy withholding doomsday Y2K report and how to respond

About the Author

Jim Lord is the author of, "A Survival Guide for the Year 2000 Problem:
Consumer Solutions for the Worst Technical Blunder in History" a
practical, 270 page guide to preparation for the Year 2000 Computer
Crisis.  He has written nearly ninety articles on Y2K.  He is also the
co-editor with James Talmage Stevens of the "Journal of Personal
Freedom", a newsletter which provides practical guidance in the
restoration of Liberty through preparedness and self-reliance.

Mr. Lord has advised Congressional staffers, The Congressional Research
Service, the Department of Defense, the Center for Security Policy, and
the US Taxpayer's Alliance, and is a Y2K Research Associate at George
Washington University.  He has appeared on more than 200 radio talk
shows as well as Fox News, ABC NightLine, the Discovery Channel, C-Span
and PAX TV.

He appeared on the same speaking agenda with Nobel prizewinner Milton
Friedman and Lady Margaret Thatcher at the Blanchard Investor Conference
in New Orleans.  He has debated Y2K with Harry Browne, recent
Libertarian Party presidential candidate and Gary North, a prominent Y2K
expert and writer.  He has been a featured speaker at the World Future
Society, the Conservative Caucus, many investor conferences, numerous
Y2K community preparedness seminars, and at the Eris Society in Aspen,
Colorado.

Mr. Lord is a retired Naval Officer with 24 years active service who
came up through the enlisted ranks.  His career was spent in the
electronics field, including a tour as the Electronics Maintenance
Officer on an aircraft carrier.  At age 33, he earned a degree in
Business, graduating with honors from the Naval Postgraduate School in
Monterey, California.  Following his military career, Mr. Lord was
involved in shipbuilding, communication systems design, satellite
systems, software engineering, training and marketing.  This experience
included nine years in the software industry.  He also taught business
courses at the college level for several years.



From: jean hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jean Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Pentagon Papers of Y2K about the coming World Crisis - you may
forward thisto your local media
Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 1:36 AM

Hello again everyone

Yesterday I read this astounding US Navy report below about how badly many
US cities will fare during the coming Y2K Crisis -- not to mention most of
the rest of the world -- and I thought to myself that this wouldn't find
its way into the news like so many other Internet-circulated reports about
this unreported reality in the mainstream media -- which have been eerily
silent on this issue this summer as you may have noticed. Well I was wrong.
At least one major TV network -- on CTV evening news - in Canada reported
it.

Now it remains to be seen if the other newsmedia will wake up and just do
their job...

I don't want to sound like a prophet of doom, but I firmly believe this is
going to be a major test of people's resilience and ability to cooperate in
the face of utter adversity - and in the midst of winter here in the
Northern hemisphere. This planetary technological crash down will burst
open the gates of massive changes and it can turn out real bad of real good
depending on how we each react and adapt to it all - and depending on how
well-prepared we are or not. For sure, the Zeus-like elite who decreed that
this problem would occur -- most likely the Y2K bug has been deliberately
planned back in the mid 80's when a computer expert warned the US
authorities about the consequences of this computer mis-conceived
programming shortfall and then the FBI decided that nothing would be done
about it (according to the Time Magazine) and that was it -- and they would
very much like massive chaos and rioting and looting to ensue to enable
them to come forward like "saviours" with the martial law and a cunning
plan to implant a micro-chip into the hand of everyone on Earth to track
and monitor each of us and impose their complete domination and enslaving
of the world population - more on this issue real soon.

But!... if it turns out that people remain calm and generously help each
others instead (as occured everywhere in Quebec during the month-long
electricity failure following the major Ice storm a couple years ago that
tore down thousands of utility poles and electric transmission lines) and
don't fall into the trap of the elite-trained agents provocateurs who will
certainly attempt to stir troubles, like rioting and looting, to "justify"
the military take-over of all US urban centers and the suspension of all
normal rules of law through the declaration of the martial law, then their
plans will fail and we will all remain free.

And since it is time to bring this Y2K issue back to the forefront, I'll
soon send you the material I had prepared months ago on this.

But first let's begin with this breaking news...


[CTRL] Clinton's New Proposal] (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER



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From: Nicole Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Call your Congressperson! Clinton wants access to our PC's. I know,
this is a onelist for guns, but this is very important.

(From the St. Louis Post)

Feds seek authority to secretly crack personal computer codes



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Law enforcers would have the authority to secretly
crack the security codes of crime suspects' home and office personal
computers, under a Clinton administration plan reported today in The
Washington Post.

The Justice Department has drafted legislation that, if approved by
Congress, would allow federal agents to obtain search warrants from a
judge to enter private property, search through computers for passwords
and override encryption programs.

According to an Aug. 4 department memo that lays out the proposal,
encryption software for scrambling computer files "is increasingly used
as a means to facilitate criminal activity, such as drug trafficking,
terrorism, white-collar crime and the distribution of child
pornography.''

Under the measure, investigators would obtain sealed search warrants
signed by a judge as a prelude to getting further court permission to
wiretap, extract information from computers or conduct further
searches.

Privacy advocates have objected to the plan, dubbed the Cyberspace
Electronic Security Act by the Justice Department.

"They have taken the cyberspace issues and are using it as
justification for invading the home,'' James Dempsey, an attorney for
the Center for Democracy and Technology, told the Post.

Peter Swire, the White House's chief counselor for privacy, told the
newspaper the administration supports encryption as a way to provide
privacy for computer users.

"But it has to be implemented in a way that's consistent with other
values, such as law enforcement,'' Swire said. "In this whole issue we
have to strike the right balance.''

The administration has for years been seeking a law to require computer
makers to include a so-called Clipper Chip in their products that would
give police a "back door'' into computers despite any encryption
software they may contain.

In a backlash, More than 250 members of Congress have signed on as
co-sponsors to legislation that would prohibit mandating such back-door
devices on computers.

AP-CS-08-20-99 0612EDT

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[CTRL] China's nuclear threat to US (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/9908/20/pageone

Sydney Morning Herald

Friday, August 20, 1999

China's nuclear threat to US

By DAVID LAGUE, Herald Correspondent in Beijing

China warned yesterday that it was ready to fight over Taiwan and
that its nuclear weapons could "deal with" aircraft carriers if
the United States dared to interfere.

A hard-hitting editorial in the official Global Times newspaper,
a subsidiary of the Communist Party mouthpiece, the People's
Daily, said the US and other Western countries were mistaken if
they believed China lacked the ability or will to use force in a
dispute over Taiwan.

"If the US makes the wrong calculation on its abacus and goes on
interfering in China's domestic affairs, it will eventually draw
fire against itself," it said.

China has launched a furious propaganda barrage and a campaign of
psychological warfare since Taiwan's President Lee Teng-hui
called on July 9 for the two sides to deal with each other on a
"state-to-state" basis, a move Beijing interpreted as a step
toward independence.

The ruling Communist Party in Beijing regards Taiwan as a
renegade province and has threatened to use force if it declares
independence.

Despite increasingly bellicose threats from the mainland, some
analysts believe the People's Liberation Army lacks the means to
make any serious challenge to Taiwan, particularly if the US was
drawn into any conflict.

They also argue that the economic and diplomatic costs to China
of aggression across the Taiwan Strait would dramatically
outweigh any gains.

But the Global Times editorial said this reasoning was
dangerously flawed and it reminded the US that it had failed to
subdue China in the Korean and Vietnam wars.

"We will not choose to use force until the last moment but China
will not retreat because of external forces interference," the
paper said.

"Theoretically, military power includes hardware and software. As
to hardware, China's neutron bomb can deal with aircraft carriers
easily and medium- and short-range missiles will be useful too."

The paper also said the US would be disadvantaged by long supply
lines.

In a move likely to further infuriate Beijing, Mr Lee has added
his voice to calls for Taiwan to be included under a proposed
anti-missile defence shield that the US and Tokyo this week
agreed to begin developing.

Mr Lee said the system "not only responds to current needs but,
even more, it fulfils the nation's long-term development
interests", according to a statement released in Taipei on
Wednesday after a senior officials' meeting.

Senior Chinese leaders have already condemned suggestions that
Taiwan be included in any anti-missile defence system as
interference in China's internal affairs.

Experts believe it could take 10 years to develop and field the
defence system but it would be symbolically important for Taiwan
and reinforce fears in Beijing that peaceful reunification
remains a long-term prospect if it happens at all.

Senior US officials have said that Taiwan has yet to make a
formal request to be included in the system.

PLA missiles based in southern China opposite Taiwan could be one
of the major threats facing the island if Beijing did decide that
a military strike was needed to rein in Taipei.



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[CTRL] U.S. Wasn't Sure Plant Had Nerve gas Role (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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 U.S. Wasn't Sure Plant Had Nerve Gas Role
 Before Sudan Strike, CIA Urged More Tests

 By Vernon Loeb
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Saturday, August 21, 1999; Page A01

 One month before the United States bombed the El Shifa
 pharmaceutical plant in Sudan, CIA analysts said more
 testing would be needed before they could firmly
 conclude that the plant was producing a key component
 of deadly VX nerve gas, as the Clinton administration
 maintained on the night of the strike.

 The bombing, one year ago this week, has led to a
 lawsuit by the plant's owner, an embarrassing series of
 retractions by top U.S. officials, and an increasingly
 pressing question: Just how certain does the government
 need to be before it uses force against a suspected
 terrorist group overseas?

 The Clinton administration continues to defend the
 airstrike, which killed a night watchman and destroyed
 the pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum, Sudan's capital.
 But senior officials now concede that the plant did, in
 fact, make some medicines. They also acknowledge that
 it may not have manufactured chemical weapons -- at
 least at the time of the bombing.

 President Clinton ordered the missile strike in retaliation
 for Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden's alleged role as
 the mastermind in the terrorist bombing of two U.S.
 embassies on Aug. 7, 1998. The twin truck bombs in
 Kenya and Tanzania killed more than 200 people,
 including 12 Americans.

 To strike back, U.S. Navy ships fired 13 Tomahawk
 cruise missiles at El Shifa and 66 missiles at bin Laden's
 training camps in Afghanistan. The attack was timed to
 coincide with a meeting of bin Laden's key operatives at
 one of the camps.

 Since the attack, senior administration officials have
 stood behind what they continue to describe as a
 "compelling" piece of evidence: a soil sample, secretly
 obtained near the El Shifa site by a CIA operative, that
 was found to contain a high concentration of EMPTA, a
 chemical that does not occur in nature and has no use
 except in making nerve gas.

 "Nothing that we've learned subsequent to the attacks has
 led anybody to [conclude], if they had to do it over
 again, that they would make a different decision," one
 senior administration official said this week.

 However, in a three-page analytical paper written late
 last July, well before the embassy bombings or the
 retaliatory targeting of El Shifa, CIA analysts raised
 questions about what conclusions could safely be drawn
 from the soil sample.

 According to officials familiar with the paper, the CIA
 analysts considered the presence of EMPTA to be a
 virtually sure-fire indicator that the plant had something
 to do with chemical weapons. But they could not be sure
 whether the plant actually manufactured VX or merely
 served as a warehouse or transshipment point for
 chemicals used in making nerve gas. Nor could they be
 sure how recently that activity might have occurred.

 The paper, which was reviewed at senior levels in the
 CIA and disseminated to the National Security Council
 staff, recommended covert efforts to obtain more soil
 samples to try to answer those questions.

 Intelligence officials also said in interviews this week
 that even if El Shifa did make nerve gas, they cannot
 explain why a high concentration of EMPTA would have
 been present in the soil outside the plant. EMPTA is a
 viscous substance that is not volatile enough to vaporize,
 and the plant's drainage system is unlikely to have
 deposited effluent in surface soil on its periphery.

 That uncertainty, the officials said, is another reason
 why CIA analysts recommended additional soil sampling  at
 the site last July.

 Still, the intelligence officials played down the
 importance of that recommendation and said CIA
 Director George J. Tenet did not mention any need for
 further testing when he presented senior policymakers
 with a "mosaic" of intelligence to support the targeting
 of El Shifa at a White House briefing on Aug. 17, 1998,
 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1

1999-08-21 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990821a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Neither Mork nor Mindy were harmed during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Woman kills eclipse baby. BUCHAREST, Romania (AP)  A Romanian woman killed
  a baby born during the Aug. 11 eclipse, fearing ancient superstitions that
  the child would grow up cursed. The 31-year-old woman from a remote hamlet
  admitted throwing the infant down an outdoor toilet shortly after giving
  birth in her home. Neighbors in the northern Romanian village of Strahotin
  said the woman was "fearful of rumors that monsters are born during the
  eclipse." http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560792157-e7d

: Were you born during an eclipse? Are you monstrous, cursed, special, gold-
plated, magickal, alien, supernatural? Should you have been killed? Why not?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tonga may get jump on millennium. TAVEUNI, Fiji (AP)  The small Polynesian
  kingdom of Tonga hopes to do one better than neighboring island rivals for
  millennium business by adopting daylight saving time. They need the money.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560795352-926

: Do you want to be the first human to see the New Millennium? How much cash
will you spend to achieve that goal? Do the voices in your head insist? Hmm?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Satellite navigation tool in trouble. (AP) - For those who rely on the
  high-tech Global Positioning System to find their way around, this weekend
  has plenty of potential drama. The satellite-based navigation devices in
  use all over the world could malfunction when the system resets its clocks
  - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560788144-84a

# Don't rely on GPS. (BBC) Sailors and pilots are being urged to check their
  satellite navigation equipment this weekend for a millennium-style glitch.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_426000/426081.stm

: Are you almost as tired of GPS rollover stories as you are of eclipse and
millennium stories? Have you replaced your GPS gear? Do you still use LORAN?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# How to Give a Cat a Colonic: Another HOAX. A new virus hoax warns users
  about an email message with the subject:  "HOW TO GIVE A CAT A COLONIC,
  DO NOT OPEN IT" This warning is a hoax; do not to distribute it
  to others. http://www.trend.com/vinfo/hoaxes/cat_colonic.htm

: Would you execute a file describing feline enemas? Have you ever given a
cat an enema? Would/did you write any cat enema viruses? Do ETs help you?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Catholic bishop on trial in Rwanda. KIGALI, Rwanda (AP) - A Roman Catholic
  bishop in Rwanda went on trial on charges of failing to offer sanctuary to
  victims of the 1994 genocide. Augustin Misago, bishop of the diocese of
  Gigonkoro in southwestern Rwanda, is the highest-ranking Rwandan cleric to
  face charges of genocide and crimes against humanity. See
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560793507-1e1

: Does your belief subsystem promote/condone/accept genocide, crimes against
humanity, crimes against anyone? Do you promote cultural genocide? Where??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Deathtrap cities keep growing. (BBC) As more people flock to cities,
  the impact of disasters inevitably worsens. Stink of civilization:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_426000/426035.stm

@ Links: The Worldwatch Institute: http://www.worldwatch.org/
@ UN Centre for Human Settlements: http://www.unhabitat.org/
@ Natural Disaster Reduction: http://www.idndr.org/

: What's your favorite urban deathtrap? How're ya gonna keep'em down on the
farm, after they've seen Recife? Do urban sinks result from genocidal plots?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Museum celebrates computers. SAN DIEGO (AP) From vacuum tubes  paper tape
  to Atari Pong and Apple IIs, the Computer Museum of America slithers down
  technology lane. The collection of more than 200 pieces spans a century of
  computing from a 1900 circular slide rule that looks like a pocket watch,
  to an IBM 360 mainframe computer from the 1960s that's about the size of
  three gym lockers. The nonprofit museum's newest addition is a 22-year-old
  MITS Altair 8800b, donated by a patent lawyer who won a contest for having
  the oldest personal computer still in use. He was too cheap to upgrade til
  now: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560786364-0ac
# And: Computer museum at a glance, see
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560783034-48e

: Shouldn't ancient Napier's Bones  logarithms be on display here too? D'ya
know that these were developed to calculate when Armageddon would occur? Do
you use computational devices to prognosticate The End? Got an answer yet?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ Freemasons: satanism, 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3

1999-08-21 Thread Tenorlove

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One Less Missing Link. Bones from the Ethiopian desert prove that
human ancestors walked the earth 4.4 million years ago.

I still say that modern man is the missing link between apes  human
beings. snort
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution

1999-08-21 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
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 In a message dated 99-08-20 02:03:34 EDT, Keachie writes:

  These critters have much more in common in their DNA than do
 say any of them and horses.

 You're walking on the beach. You see something glittering in the
 sand. You dig carefully and discover a shiny, solid gold pocket
 watch. You snap open the lid to reveal a beautifully crafted face,
 with gold hands ticking across black roman numeral lettering. What
 can you assume about the watch? Do you think that the sand and other
 minerals swirled together over millions of years, and finally, com-
 pletely by chance, "evolved" into a watch? Or do you assume that
 someone crafted the watch from metals and glass, and "created" it
 according to an intelligent design? Weighing the probabilities in
 your mind, you come to the logical conclusion that an intelligent
 being crafted it, organizing it from the elements.

This argument has been dealt with endlessly in the past.

1) Lifeforms ain't watches.

2) We can easily observe the presence of watchmakers; creators aren't
  so easily discerned, only inferred, and can't be tested for.

3) Watches have just the necessary mechanical parts to perform their
  intended function, plus possibly a few decorative flourishes.  Homo
  Sapiens and other lifeforms have all sorts of non- and dys-functional
  features that make sense in an evolutionary context since they don't
  necessarily kill-off a creature before it reproduces, but that in a
  creationist context suggest total incompetence on a creator's part.

4) Evolution can be observed in any microbiology lab.  Researchers
  have shown that the chemical and organizational bases of life can
  be replicated in the lab - 'creators' aren't NEEDED to explain the
  origin of life.  Abiogenesis and evolutionary theories WORK as
  explanations of observed phenomena - creationism doesn't.

5) You'll believe whatever you want to believe.

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Re: [CTRL] Congress: America's Criminal Class - Part V

1999-08-21 Thread AOL User

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I received Part 2, 3  5, where can I locate Parts 1 4?

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Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Friday #3

1999-08-21 Thread Ric Carter

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 # How We Became Human: The evolution of Homo sapiens wasn't a
  steady march from primitivism to perfection. Instead, as new-
  found fossils reveal, it was a turbulent tale, full of false
  starts and repeated failures, before the appearance of cultur-
  ally complex, technologically savvy creatures like us:

 That's yesterdays news; what's up next?
 What will our successor be like?
 Is she around already?

Ah, now we get into the paradox-laden realm of "future evolution".
Since evolution is [among other things] "the survival of changes
over time"; and since the future hasn't happened yet; then there
is no way to determine just what changes will occur.  But we CAN
note that various stages of evolution apply:

1) Chemical evolution - The fitting-together of elements into the
  hydrocarbons, polymers, proteins that give rise to life;
2) Biological evolution - The fitting-together of DNA into a wide
  range of life-forms, including we more-or-less hairy primates;
3) Social evolution - The fitting-together of humanoid individuals
  into groups, allowing the survival of individuals who couldn't
  exist on their own, but who have valuable skills for the group;
4) Cultural evolution - The fitting-together of technological
  specialists - farmers, toolmakers, engineers, workers - resulting
  in immensely more productivity than individuals or small groups;
5) Directed evolution - The fitting-together of information 
  biochemical  genetic technologies to build humans to order,
  engineered for any environment we may encounter.

We've gone through stages 1-4 and have entered stage 5.  As we
expand thru the universe we'll build more and more diverse forms
of 'humans', any of which may be successful in surviving in various
niches and who thus may be thought of as "our successor".  What'll
they look/act/think like?  Depends on where you are, eh?

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[CTRL] Fwd: Bush's Drug Furor Shows Clinton Changed 'the Game'

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan






You once recently told me to forward good posts to you IF/WHEN my
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though this DID NOT WORK THE LAST FEW TIMES I DID SO).

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Analysis
 Bush's Drug Furor Shows Clinton Changed 'the
 Game'

 By Dan Balz
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Saturday, August 21, 1999; Page A01

 A decade ago, the kind of turbulence that hit Texas Gov.
 George W. Bush's campaign this week might have
 threatened to knock a candidate out of the presidential
 race. For better or worse, President Clinton has changed
 the rules.

 Bush's highflying campaign was brought to earth over the
 question of whether he has ever used illegal drugs, and
 even some supporters believe he will be hurt by this
 week's events. Whether the damage is serious or
 long-lasting was not clear yesterday -- and the candidate
 quickly shifted back to his pre-turbulence posture of
 vowing not to answer questions on the issue.

 The episode revealed a campaign that, however
 smoothly it was operating, could be knocked off stride
 by one ingenious and unanticipated question. But it also
 showed how a decade of scandal politics -- and the
 example of Clinton -- have taught politicians not to
 crumble when the first crisis hits a campaign.

 There once was a familiar pattern when political scandal
 erupted: the media feeding frenzy, the campaign
 deathwatch and the inevitable scene in a hotel ballroom
 where a contrite or defiant candidate withdrew from the
 race. That was the way it played out in 1987 when Gary
 Hart was hit with allegations of marital infidelity.

 But after a 1992 campaign in which Clinton weathered
 questions about infidelity, the draft and smoking
 marijuana, and then the past year in which he survived
 the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, that old pattern has
 been replaced by something new.

 "You can keep your head down and plow through it,"
 said Republican strategist Ralph Reed, a Bush adviser,
 "and after you have, you're a stronger candidate because
 people see you're not going to be knocked out by it."

 Bush took a calculated risk by reopening the issue of
 when, if ever, he has used drugs. It is that the public
 will forgive mistakes of the distant past if they are
 convince a politician has learned from them -- and will
 not repeat them.

 "I think that ultimately voters will have a sense that the
 governor has 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2 - SkeptiBriefs

1999-08-21 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990821b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Only a few narcissists were harmed during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Secret Military Information. Do you know what hanger number the real Alien
  craft parts are stored at Wright Patterson AFB ? They have been stored in
  building 50  51 up until the mid 1970's. http://caus.org/mc082199.htm

@ Failed Polygraph Yields Unexpected Benefit. The recently leaked Top Secret
  MJ-12 UFO documents from Mr. Timothy Cooper have undergone a series of
  authentication tests. What do you believe? http://caus.org/pn082199.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# GAS PUMPS PLUG INTO THE NET: hi-tech "gas pump of the future." Gas pumps
  run by BP Amoco PLC are getting wired: The firm announced that it will use
  a Windows-CE-based system to link pumps to the Internet. The "Millennium
  Dispenser," developed by Radiant Systems, uses the Windows CE operating
  system to access the Internet for traffic updates, weather reports and
  more. http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/20/gasnet.ptech.idg/index.html

# LOOK, MA! NO COMPUTER! SBC Communications is about to roll out the latest
  gadget: a US$180 machine that does email, email, and nothing but email.
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/technology/story/21353.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ CYBERMIND. Discussing "the philosophical and psychological implications of
  subjectivity in cyberspace," Cybermind is an ambitious elist, with Serious
  Thinkers thinking Serious Thoughts. Among the issues addressed, according
  to the online charter, are the emergence and/or disappearance of the body
  in cyberspace, phenomenology of the terminal screen, sex/gender/sexuality
  theory  electronic subjectivity, and (uh-oh) psychoanalysis of lurking.
  What's that famous quote? "Gaze too long into the abyss, and the abyss
  also gazes into you." Something like that. For a slightly creepy meta-
  freakout, send e-mail to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message
  body of: subscribe cybermind [your name and e-mail here]
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Into the Big Blue Yonder. A few years ago, IBM's vaunted Research division
  went through a stormy upheaval. But the labs have bounced back, and the
  future looks bright. (TechReview) "What's more, the rise of the Internet
  and the fusion of communications and computers play perfectly into decades
  of research raw computing power, storage, chips, displays, speech recogni-
  tion, 'data mining' and electronic security that few companies, if any,
  can match." http://www.techreview.com/articles/july99/buderi.htm

@ Links: IBM Research home page: http://www.research.ibm.com/
@ IBM Research facilities worldwide: http://www.research.ibm.com/worldwide/
@ Semiconductor research: http://www.research.ibm.com/topics/serious/chip/
@ Human-computer interactions: www.research.ibm.com/topics/innovate/hci/
@ Deep-computing projects: http://www.research.ibm.com/topics/deep/scalable/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Biometrics Breaks Into Prisons. Sophisticated technology allows inmates to
  be ID'd by scanning their irises or taking their voice prints. Corrections
  officials say this is more reliable than fingerprinting, but privacy advo-
  cates worry. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21362.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Jack Parsons  The Curious Origins of The American Space Program. Starts
  as a lighthearted look at JPL  the origins of the "Space program" with a
  little OTO  Scientology thrown in for good measure - probably inspired by
  the Discordian offshoot "Church of the SubGenius" - careful 'cuz it'll try
  to sneak some sense in under the radar while it keeps you entertained and
  off balanced with a "Gravity's Rainbow" meets Douglas Adams sort of sense/
  nonsense stutterstep. Hard-R http://zolatimes.com/JparArt/JackParsons.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ BONDAGE AND DOMINANCE AND SM DISCUSSIONS. Eloquent, articulate, well-
  versed, and an occasional sidetrack of "niggling etymological issues,"
  the postings in this newsgroup may not excite you, but it is pretty
  funny when the adolescent finger-pointing gets going. I am frightened
  of the Capture and Chloroform threads. news:soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Black Box Crooks Finger Buyers. Scads of people who bought illegal cable
  descramblers on the Web may soon get unexpected - and unwanted - visits
  from the cops. http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21370.html

# Porn Shop Raided by Mounties. Thursday, Net porn-and-casino firm Starnet
  was merrily planning its move onto the Nasdaq. Friday, it got nailed by
  Canadian cops. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21376.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ British monarchy  Jews of Amsterdam, Bank of England, CFR, RIIA. "The
  doctrine of British-Israelism and 

[CTRL] OEN 8/21/99

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-
Today's Lesson From From Stock Market Crashes of 1998  1999

by Ravi Batra


The speculative bubble burst open in Japan in 1990, but it continued to
expand in the United States and most other countries, and turned into a
global bubble. Even though stock markets in Asia and Latin America
crashed at the end of 1997, the bubble was not yet pierced; it had been
deflated somewhat, but not punctured. This is because the United States,
the world's locomotive and the largest economy, experienced only a
slight decline in its share markets. The Dow hovered around 7,800, which
was below its August peak but still more than nine times its low point
in 1982.

Western Europe, Canada, and Australia also suffered only minor drops in
share prices. Thus the global bubble continued to flourish as 1997 came
to a close. Although Japan had already suffered a sever-year stagnation,
it was still a part of the international bubble economy, which it had
helped to build through its trade surpluses and reckless lending to
Korea and the baby tigers.

The global bubble had localized balloons in various nations, with the US
balloon still the largest in the world. Europe's bubble was next in
size. Japan's balloon was small relative to what it had been at the end
of 1989, but it was still filled with hot speculative air. Japan's banks
were saddled with numerous bad loans, domestic as well as foreign,
although share and land prices had indeed collapsed.
=

US Economy

US Trade Deficit Widens to $24.6 Billion in June

US economy, stock market fueled by borrowed money

NEW YORK - The U.S. trade deficit widened far more than had been
expected in June, the government reported Thursday, expanding to a
record $24.6 billion and underlining the role of American consumers as
buyers of last resort for exports from weaker economies.
While U.S. exports rose to $78.4 billion from $78.0 billion in May, led
by automobiles and car parts, food and industrial supplies, the almost 4
percent gain in imports was much larger.

The $103 billion in imports was spread across several categories,
analysts noted, including automobiles, computers, clothing, manufactured
goods and organic chemicals. Much of this reflected demand from
individual consumers, who have been on a buying spree.

''If you look at the year-on-year percentage increase in consumer goods
for the first half of this year, it is 8.2 percent larger than the same
period last year,'' said Takanobu Igarashi, senior economist at Sanwa
Bank.

''If you want to stop or slow this trend,'' he added, ''you have to slow
the growth in domestic demand.''

There are several reasons the United States might wish to curb the
yawning trade deficit, among them fear of a protectionist backlash. Some
domestic industries, notably steel and agriculture, have complained of
unfair pricing by foreign competitors, and the government is moving
toward restricting imports. The issue presents a political problem in
Washington, which is not eager to alienate its constituents but which
also does not want to encourage trade barriers.

There also is a question of economics. The U.S. economy has been the
main engine of global growth in the past two years. But rising levels of
consumer debt and dwindling savings could lead to a crisis if the stock
market's outsized gains of the last four years were to reverse, reducing
Americans' wealth.

Finally, the trade deficit itself contains the seeds of a financial
crisis.

''A trade deficit is only a problem if you can't finance it,'' said Carl
Weinberg, chief economist of High Frequency Economics in Valhalla, New
York.

So far, he said, there has been scant evidence that foreign investors
are unwilling to buy such American assets as stocks and bonds, although
there have been signs of an outflow of funds from Wall Street to the
faster-growing Tokyo stock market.

The trade data weighed on the dollar, exacerbating its recent slide
against the yen. Late in the day, the dollar was at 111.47 yen, down
from 111.91 yen Wednesday. The euro strengthened to $1.0641 from $1.0528


The dollar has been falling against the Japanese currency since mid-May,
when it stood at more than 124 yen. Since then, the Nikkei 225-stock
average in Tokyo is up about 10 percent, while the Dow Jones industrial
average has barely changed. At the close Thursday, the U.S. blue-chip
average was down 27.54 points at 10,963.84.

Bonds were little changed, benefiting from money flowing out of the
stock market but suffering from the weakness of the dollar. The 30-year
Treasury issue ended at a yield of 6.03 percent, up from 5.99 percent
late Wednesday.

In June, the merchandise trade deficit with Japan widened to $6.3
billion from $5.3 billion in May

Mr. Weinberg said the market reaction to the trade data in particular
and the relative attractions of Japanese and U.S. investments in general
were 

[CTRL] Justice Dept. Pushes For Power to Unlock PC Security Systems - Covert Acts Could Target Homes, Offices

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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A
HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/20/144l-082099-idx.h
tml"Justice Dept. Pushes For Power to Unlock PC Sec /A
-

Justice Dept. Pushes For Power to Unlock PC Security Systems
Covert Acts Could Target Homes, Offices
By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 20, 1999; Page A01

The Justice Department wants to make it easier for law enforcement
authorities to obtain search warrants to secretly enter suspects' homes
or offices and disable security on personal computers as a prelude to a
wiretap or further search, according to documents and interviews with
Clinton administration officials.

In a request set to go to Capitol Hill, Justice officials will ask
lawmakers to authorize covert action in response to the growing use of
software programs that encrypt, or scramble, computer files, making them
inaccessible to anyone who does not have a special code or "key,"
according to an Aug. 4 memo by the department that describes the plan.

Justice officials worry that such software "is increasingly used as a
means to facilitate criminal activity, such as drug trafficking,
terrorism, white-collar crime, and the distribution of child
pornography," according to the memo, which has been reviewed by the
Office of Management and Budget and other agencies.

Legislation drafted by the department, called the Cyberspace Electronic
Security Act, would enable investigators to get a sealed warrant signed
by a judge permitting them to enter private property, search through
computers for passwords and install devices that override encryption
programs, the Justice memo shows.

The law would expand existing search warrant powers to allow agents to
penetrate personal computers for the purpose of disabling encryption. To
extract information from the computer, agents would still be required to
get additional authorization from a court.

The proposal is the latest twist in an intense, years-long debate
between the government and computer users who want to protect their
privacy by encrypting documents.

Although Justice officials say their proposal is "consistent with
constitutional principles," the idea has alarmed civil libertarians and
members of Congress.

"They have taken the cyberspace issue and are using it as justification
for invading the home," said James Dempsey, senior staff counsel at the
Center for Democracy and Technology, an advocacy group in the District
that tracks privacy issues.

Police rarely use covert entry to pave the way for electronic
surveillance. For example, federal law enforcement agencies obtained
court approval just 34 times last year under eavesdropping statutes to
install microphones, according to the 1998 wiretap report issued by the
Administrative Office of the Unites States Courts.

David L. Sobel, general counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information
Center, predicted the number of secret break-ins by police would soar if
the proposal is adopted because personal computers offer such a
tantalizing source of evidence for investigators -- including memos,
diaries, e-mail, bank records and a wealth of other data.

"Traditionally, the concept of 'black bag' jobs, or surreptitious
entries, have been reserved for foreign intelligence," Sobel said. "Do
we really want to alter the standard for physical entry?"

The proposal follows unsuccessful efforts by FBI Director Louis J. Freeh
and other Justice officials to secure laws requiring computers or
software to include "back doors" that would enable investigators to
sidestep encryption.

Those proposals, most notably one called Clipper Chip, have been
criticized by civil libertarians and have received little support in
Congress.

In a snub of the administration, more than 250 members of Congress have
co-sponsored legislation that would prohibit the government from
mandating "back doors" into computer systems.

"We want to help law enforcement deal with the new technologies. But we
want to do it in ways that protect the privacy rights of law-abiding
citizens," said Rep. Robert W. Goodlatte (R-Va.), who originally
sponsored the legislation, known as the Security and Freedom Through
Encryption Act. Goodlatte said the Justice Department's proposal might
upset the "very finely tuned balance" between law enforcement power and
civil liberties.

But Justice Department officials say there is an increasingly urgent
need for FBI agents and other federal investigators to get around
encryption and other security programs.

"We've already begun to encounter [encryption's] harmful effects," said
Justice spokeswoman Gretchen Michael. "What we've seen to date is just
the tip of the iceberg."

The proposed law also would clarify how state and federal authorities
can seek court orders to obtain software encryption "keys" that suspects
might give to others for safekeeping. Although few people share such
keys now, officials anticipate that they will do so more often in the
future.

Administration officials 

[CTRL] SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL OPTIONS ASSESSMENT (May '99 update release)

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from;
http://cryptome.org/dst-1.htm
A HREF="http://cryptome.org/dst-1.htm"Development of Surveillance
Technology and Risk /A
--
Tthis just portion of part one of a four part paper. Rest at site.

--"Nowadays almost all economic information is exchanged through electronic
means (telephone, fax, e-mail). In addition, all digital
telecommunication devices and switches have enhanced wiretapping
capabilities. As a conclusion we have to consider privacy protection in
a global international networked society. And when we speak about
electronic protection and privacy in the exchange of economic
information, we actually speak for electronic commerce over the
Internet." --

Om
K
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20 August 1999
Source: Hardcopy of 61 pages. Thanks to Sten Linnarsson.

This is part 1 of 4 of "Development of Surveillance Technology and Risk
of Abuse of Economic Information (an appraisal of technologies of
political control)."

Part 2: "The legality of the interception of electronic communications:
A concise survey of the principal legal issues and instruments under
international, European and national law," by Prof. Chris Elliott:
http://cryptome.org/dst-2.htm

Part 3: "Encryption and cryptosystems in electronic surveillance: a
survey of the technology assessment issues," by Dr. Franck Leprévost:
http://cryptome.org/dst-3.htm

Part 4: "The state of the art in Communications Intelligence (COMINT) of
automated processing for intelligence purposes of intercepted broadband
multi-language leased or common carrier systems, and its applicability
to COMINT targeting and selection, including speech recognition," by
Duncan Campbell: http://www.iptvreports.mcmail.com/stoa_cover.htm





EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT

SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL OPTIONS ASSESSMENT
STOA


DEVELOPMENT OF SURVEILLANCE
   TECHNOLOGY AND RISK OF ABUSE
OF ECONOMIC INFORMATION

(An appraisal of technologies of political control)




Part 1/4
The perception of economic risks arising from the potential
vulnerability
of electronic commercial media to interception

Survey of opinions of experts
Interim Study



Working document for the STOA Panel


Luxembourg, May 1999  PE 168.184/Int.St./part 1/4

Directorate General for Research





Cataloguing data:
Title:

Part 1/4 of:
DEVELOPMENT OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND
RISK OF ABUSE OF ECONOMIC INFORMATION
(An appraisal of technologies of political control)

Workplan Ref.: EP/IV/B/STOA/98/1401

Publisher: European Parliament
 Directorate General for Research
 Directorate A
 The STOA Programme

Author: Mr Nikos BOGONIKOLOS - ZEUS E.E.I.G.

Editor: Mr Dick HOLDSWORTH, Head of STOA Unit

Date: May 1999

PE number: PE 168. 184/Int.St./1/4




This document is a working Document for the 'STOA Panel'. It is not an
official publication of STOA.
This document does not necessarily represent the views of the European
Parliament.




CONTENTS

PART A: OPTIONS

Introduction
General overview of the outcome of the survey (interim stage)
Views on privacy collected from the survey
General privacy issue
The market for privacy
The role of industry
The need for European legislation
Options for action on surveillance and privacy
PART B: ARGUMENTS AND EVIDENCE

General
Examples of Abuse of Economic Information
PART C: TECHNICAL FILE

1. INTRODUCTION
Surveillance and Privacy
Dataveillance Techniques
Risks Inherent in Data Surveillance
Controls
2. SURVEILLANCE: TOOLS AND TECHNIQUES - Current technologies
1. Visual Surveillance
2. Audio Surveillance
3. Phone Tapping and Encryption
4. Voice and Word Pattern Recognition
5. Proximity Smart Cards
6. Transmitter Location
7. E-mail at Workplace
8. Electronic Databases
9. The Internet

3. THE USE OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS FOR THE TRANSMISSION AND
COLLECTION OF ECONOMIC INFORMATION
3.1 CALEA System
3.2 ECHELON Connection
3.3 Inhabitant identification Schemes

4. THE NATURE OF ECONOMIC INFORMATION SELECTED BY SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS
A. From telecommunication systems
B. From new information technologies (Internet)
C. Some examples of data collection on the Internet

5. PROTECTION FROM ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE
A. Encryption (Cryptography)
Private sector initiatives

B. Key - recovery
Encryption and the global information infrastructure
Key-Recovery: Requirements and proposals

6. SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS IN LEGAL AND REGULATORY CONTEXT
A. Privacy regulation
Multinational data protection measures
Data protection directive in Europe
Privacy regulation in the United States

B. Protection of Privacy in the telecommunications sector

C. Cryptography
Cryptography policy in USA
Cryptography policy guidelines from OECD
E. U. cryptography policy
Other 

[CTRL] Fwd: [2] Star Signs and the Labyrinth.

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan






Star Signs and the Labyrinth:

SUPERBUILDING FROM THE EGYPTIANS

In their first article, Patrick Geryl and Gino Ratinckx showed us how they
found the labyrinth with the help of star signs. Now they tell us more
details about their findings and this legendary gigantic construction.
According to old manuscripts it is the largest man made building ever.
By
Patrick Geryl and Gino Ratinckx

You cannot only find there are more then 3000 rooms but also the tombs of
the fourteen first pharaoh's and the 'Circle of Gold' (an enormous room
completely in gold). When they are right, The Hall of Records' must be
there! Bauval, and Hancock, take note!

Many are searching for a 'Hall of Records' at Giza or not far from it.
Either beneath the Great Sphinx or under the Great Pyramid itself is
concealed a 'Hall of Records' in which is preserved the entire knowledge of
a lost civilisation. In it you can find the secrets of all profound science
(knowledge of all history and astronomy, maps of the earth, etc). But is
it? Is this the right place to look at? Not according to old manuscripts.
25 years ago the French Egyptologist Albert Slosman translated that the
'Hall of Records' is in the Labyrinth! He wrote 10 books about his
findings. Unfortunately they weren't translated into English. That's where
our adventure started.

When putting the map of the Nile alongside the map of the Milky Way there
clearly is a visual resemblance. Several important stars from the Milky Way
correspond with places where temples and pyramids have been built. The data
came from the astronomical centre. The Old Egyptians kept the positions of
stars and planets there. Together, these data formed specific geometrical
combinations of which the major harmonic laws were deduced. Diodrus of
Sicily confirms this search for living in harmony on earth with the consent
of the heavens. The following is written in chapter 89 of his first book:
nowhere else can be found such an exact observation of the positions and
the movements of stars and planets as with the Egyptians. They possess all
observations, which they made year after year, going back to incredible
ancient times!"

This confirms the high priests being "Masters of Mathematics and Numbers",
and this from time immemorial. With these astronomical data and based on
their "Mathematical Celestial Combinations", they were able to make
predictions on planetary movement, their rotation time and many other
stellar phenomena, and all this without effort.

The story starts thousands of years ago. Exhausted from a war which had
lasted for millennia it was decided to unite the followers of Seth and
Horus. It was then that it was decided to build an astronomical centre. The
year: 4608 BC, when the area of the Bull began, 365 years after the
enormous work was completed. On the day that God had predestinated for this
event, Athothis would officially declare the unification of Egypt. Some
research tells us that the first day of Thot was 19 July 4243 BC. From then
on, the Sothic era began, in addition to the classical Egyptian calendar.

Undoubtedly there was a deeper significance in all this. This was not only
the celebration of the unification, but also of certain cycles of sun, moon
and stars.

Next to these two calendars they also used a moon-calendar, counting
alternately 29 and 30 days, and fitting in a cycle of precisely 25 years of
365 days. The French researcher Schwaller de Lubicz noted that this time
span matched 309 moon-periods. He calculated;
25 x 365 = 9125 days
9125 / 309 = 29.5307 days per moon-period.
This result is of extreme accuracy.

The modern astronomy uses a moon period of 29.53059 days, a difference of
only one second! This Egyptian calendar can be considered - and rightly so
- as a wonder of precision.

Let's return now to the unification of Egypt. At the bank of the Nile a
public worship took place. Two high priests addressed the Nile and spoke:
"Your Heavenly sources enable us to live, because they allow our lands to
be flooded every year." To the public they said: "From now on you will live
in harmony with God's laws and orders, because they will grant you life on
earth as well as in heaven. Fertilise the earth for your work and in turn
it will provide you with cereals!" To the heads of both fractions they
swore: "Your authority remains the symbol of all your actions because the
way you govern will determine the happiness of your people."

With their hands raised to heaven, they spoke to God: "Oh Lord of eternity,
You who knows everything! May Your law and orders rule from this day on and
may our lives be trouble-free. May our children follow our example. May
Your heavenly wisdom, which You offered us by means of the "Mathematical
Celestial Combinations", fill us all and inspire us to restrain from evil
actions which could provoke your anger."

It was after this memorable day that the construction of a large astronomic
centre began. Its name was "Circle of Gold" and it contained two 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bush's Drug Furor Shows Clinton Changed 'the Game'

1999-08-21 Thread Linda Minor

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Previous post stated:

 But after a 1992 campaign in which Clinton weathered
 questions about infidelity, the draft and smoking
 marijuana, and then the past year in which he survived
 the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, that old pattern has
 been replaced by something new.

 "You can keep your head down and plow through it,"
 said Republican strategist Ralph Reed, a Bush adviser,
 "and after you have, you're a stronger candidate because
 people see you're not going to be knocked out by it."


Is this the same Ralph Reed who headed the Christian Coalition for several
years?  What kind of Christian is he if he's not concerned about drug use?
And wasn't Pat Robertson involved in British Israel?

Linda


from:
http://www.tialliance.org/tia/press/050796.html


Ralph Reed's Change of Heart Challenged by TIA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 7, 1996

CONTACT:

Communications Director 202-639-6370

WASHINGTON, D.C. (May 7) -- The Interfaith Alliance today challenged
Christian Coalition Executive Director Ralph Reed to match his words with
his actions to demonstrate he means what he writes in his new book. Reed
calls on religious conservatives to "love our enemies", extending even to
the Christian Coalition's well established political targets such as gays
and President Clinton.

"As hard as he may try, Ralph Reed can't have it both ways. If he is truly
intent on turning towards tolerance and civility, we applaud him. But his
first step should not be to write a book about the tactics of unnamed
religious conservatives. He needs to examine his own tactics; specifically
to distance himself from the well documented extreme language of his very
own boss, Pat Robertson. Anything less leaves his writings suspect," said
Rev Dr. Albert Pennybacker, Chairman of The Interfaith Alliance.

"While Ralph Reed seeks to attract mainstream Americans with the bait of
tolerance and civility, his boss, Pat Robertson continues to indoctrinate
his political troops with the incendiary language of hate prejudice and
fear," said Rev. Dr. Albert Pennybacker. "Such talk has no place in America.
While Reed takes a 'holier than thou' stance on bashing others in his book,
Robertson's fundraising mail is filled with diatribes similar to the extreme
rhetoric Reed says he condemns."

The Interfaith Alliance is a non-profit organization with 49 chapters in 23
states organized to provide the mainstream religious community with a voice
against those who use religion to push an extreme political agenda. The
Interfaith Alliance has members from more than 30 different faith
communities who have come together to promote the positive role of religion
in American public life as a healing and constructive force.

"Ralph Reed has been walking a political tightrope that is beginning to
fray," said Jill Hanauer, Executive Director of The Interfaith Alliance.
"It's amazing that the same person who compares his organization's tactics
to guerrilla warfare can then summon the nerve to claim a sudden election
year conversion to a new covenant of civility."

==
from:
http://www.news-observer.com/daily/1997/10/11/nc01.html

Reed recently stepped down as executive director of the Christian Coalition
to launch an Atlanta-based political consulting firm to assist conservative
candidates in 1998 and 2000.

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[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 21

1999-08-21 Thread William Shannon





UNDERNEWS
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WORD

If a youthful George W. Bush had been tried according to George W. Bush's
own unforgiving drug policy, he might well has been sent away to a maximum
security prison for anywhere from ten years to life. Hundreds of thousands
of Americans are now doing hard time around the country -- for stays
measured in decades if not entire life-spans -- because of their youthful
dabblings in the white stuff. -- Mark Anderson, Jan Jose Metro

BATTLE OF THE EPIGONS

Wonder whether what has GWB really worried are reports of a videotape that
allegedly shows him along with his brother Jeb at a certain Florida airport
in the 1980s engaged in a certain youthfully indiscreet transaction after
meeting a plane that just flew in from Mena, Arkansas?

YOUR VOTE IS NO BETTER
THAN THE MACHINE THAT
COUNTS IT

The Louisiana elections commissioner, Jerry Fowler, has been indicted on
charges that he made millions of dollars through kickbacks and money
laundering. Reports AP: "In one instance, a New Jersey investment firm in
which Fowler had a financial interest, Independent Voting Machine Service
Co., was sent $900,000 by Election Services Inc. of Alabama, one of the
firms awarded a contract by Fowler   A legislative audit issued earlier
this month found that Independent Voting Machine Service Co. and Election
Services Inc., got a total of $15.4 million from the elections department
from 1991 through 1998 for equipment and services that could have been made
for less than half the price paid  The audit said Fowler bought 3,200
reconditioned mechanical machines without seeking competitive bids required
by law."

Undernews: Forget the alleged kickbacks and the money laundering; consider
the machines. Some years back Ronnie Dugger warned in the New Yorker of the
dangers involved in computerized voting machines including the fact that the
jurisdictions that buy them can't even look at the programs used to count
the votes. Unfortunately, the issue has received hardly any attention since.
In the Louisiana case, was it only machines that were up for grabs? Do you
know where your vote is?

JUST POLITICS

STEPHANIE KIRCH, APBNEWS: A retired dentist who is a candidate for mayor is
behind bars today following his arrest on a charge of threatening to kill
the incumbent. Deputy Chief Walter Watkins said 55-year-old Dr. Ray
Desmarais made a series of telephone calls to 911 operators Sunday, and that
when two officers arrived at his home to investigate, he told police that
"he wanted to kill Mayor Bill Evers."

APB NEWS http://www.prorev.com/apbnews.com

Number of persons who have been executed by Texas under the administration
of George Bush: 99

"I hope to show Hispanics that Republicans do have a heart, but I also want
to send a message to people from around the country as to how to pick up the
Hispanic vote" - GWB

STUPID POLITICIAN TRICKS

Salt Lake City has outlawed skateboarding downtown, drum circles in Liberty
Park, swearing on Main Street between North Temple and South Temple, resting
on sidewalk planters or driving too frequently through downtown.

WONDER WHERE THE REST WERE BORN

Newsweek in a report on latino culture stated that 57.9% of all Puerto
Ricans were born in this country.

LOCAL SINGLE PAYER GROUPS

MASSACHUSETTS: Massachusetts Campaign for Single Payer Health Care
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VERMONT: Vermont Consumers Campaign for Health
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WASHINGTON http://users.tss.net/~hcnmast/

If you have a state group focussed on single-payer health care, let us know
and we will add it to our link list

DRUG BUSTS

The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a complaint against a rural
Oklahoma school district that administers drug tests to all students who
wish to participate in extracurricular activities. Other school districts
have employed mandatory drug-testing, but many of the activities in the
Tecumseh School District are tied to the student's classes. Students who
refuse to submit to the urine test for 

Re: [CTRL] Congress: America's Criminal Class - Part V

1999-08-21 Thread K
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On 21 Aug 99, at 9:45, AOL User wrote:

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> I received Part 2, 3  5, where can I locate Parts 1 4?
>


Congress: America's Criminal Class: Part I

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Aug1999/081699/criminalclass1- 081699.htm

Congress: America;s Criminal Class - Part IV

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Aug1999/081999/criminalclass4- 081999.htm

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Kathleen


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[CTRL] Sex Slaves In Australia!

1999-08-21 Thread William Shannon

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Our secret slave trade


By MARK FORBES



Hundreds of foreign prostitutes are trapped in Australia as sex slaves, being
bought and sold while illegally working in local brothels, an Insight
investigation has found.


The industry generates more than $50 million a year, with up to 500 foreign
prostitutes estimated to be in Australia at any one time.

Posing as an interested buyer, Insight was offered women on bonded contracts
for between $8000 and $15,000 for three months.

The investigation also identified the man believed to be the largest people
trader in Australia, Sunny Liu, who has imported an estimated 1000
prostitutes.

The Australian Federal Police has requested details of the individuals
identified by Insight.

Estimates by the Australian Institute of Criminology put the annual earnings
from illegal foreign prostitutes at more than $50 million, although some
police believe it is worth far more.

The federal Justice Minister, Senator Amanda Vanstone, said the material
uncovered justified her support of anti-sex slavery legislation just passed
through Parliament. Intelligence had indicated an increase in the trade, she
said.

``This is targeted at the dealers, the ones who enslave,'' Senator Vanstone
said.

Under the new laws, conducting ``sexual slavery'' will be punishable by 25
years' imprisonment. A second offence of sexual servitude, when an individual
is effectively denied their freedom, has a 15-year maximum penalty.

Senator Vanstone said she would urge law enforcement agencies to pursue those
behind the trade ``to the full''.


The director of End Child Prostitution Pornography and Trafficking, Ms
Bernadette McMenamin called on the federal police to establish a national
unit to tackle the trafficking and trading of women and children.

``This is a huge problem and unless there are resources dedicated to it the
new legislation will have limited value,'' Ms McMenamin said. Many of the
women are sold into virtual slavery, always imprisoned in a brothel or
overcrowded safe house. They cannot earn any money until they have repaid a
``contract'' of $40,000 or more.

One Sydney brothel-keeper, Ms Gael MacPherson, told Insight that she was
approached weekly by people offering illegal workers.

An unknown Asian man knocked on her brothel's door with a mini-van with eight
women inside. ``He said, `you open, you need girls','' Ms MacPherson said.

Another operator, in discussions witnessed by Insight, was offered Malaysian
prostitutes for $8000 each for three months. The trader, a supposedly
reputable businessman also said he had a shipment of ``very young, very
fresh'' girls coming from Vietnam.

Chinese ``beauty queens'' were also offered by another dealer for $15,000
each.

A federal police spokeswoman, Ms Tracey Dickerson, said police would be
interested in pursuing Insight's research. ``We would want to assess the
material for investigation,'' she said.

Mr Robert Gilder, a federal agent and a former member of a federal police
taskforce on sex slavery, said the trade was well-entrenched in most capital
cities. He estimated that between 250 and 500 women were involved at any
time. ``It's very lucrative. Women earn $100 an hour, but they get nothing
until they pay off their debt to their organisers.''

Most of the women came to Australia on tourist or student visas and normally
worked a six-month ``tour of duty''.

``They live in appalling conditions,'' Mr Gilder said. ``They are forced to
work 12 hours a day or more, seven days a week.''

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[CTRL] DOJ wants to bug PCs

1999-08-21 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Report: DOJ wants to bug PCs

Feds seek to arm crime fighters with new powers to break into private
premises and disable PC security.



By Reuters
August 20, 1999 4:42 AM PT

WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department is seeking new powers to break into
private premises and disable security precautions on personal computers as a
prelude to a wiretap or further search, the Washington Post reported on
Friday.


The department wanted to make it easier for law enforcement authorities to
get search warrants that would let them monitor suspects' computerized
records after break-ins, said the paper, citing documents and interviews
with Clinton administration officials.

"In a request set to go to Capitol Hill, Justice officials will ask
lawmakers to authorize covert action in response to the growing use of
software programs that encrypt, or scramble, computer files," the report
said. Such encryption makes computers inaccessible to anyone who lacks a
special code or "key."

Justice officials worry that such software "is increasingly used as a means
to facilitate criminal activity, such as drug trafficking, terrorism,
white-collar crime and the distribution of child pornography," the Post
quoted an Aug. 4 memo by the department as saying.

Under the proposed "Cyberspace Electronic Security Act," investigators armed
with a sealed warrant could comb computers for passwords and install devices
that override encryption programs, the Post reported, citing the Justice
memo.

To pull information from a targeted computer, agents would still be required
to get additional authorization from a court, the paper said.

Justice officials were not immediately available for comment. The proposal
is the latest in a years-long tug-of-war between the government and computer
users who want to protect their privacy by encrypting documents.

While Justice officials said their plan was consistent with constitutional
principles, the idea alarmed civil libertarians and privacy advocates.

"They have taken the cyberspace issue and are using it as justification for
invading the home," said Jack Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and
Technology , an advocacy group in Washington that tracks privacy issues.

Stiff opposition expected
David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in
Washington, said in an e-mail early Friday that the proposal "strikes at the
heart of the Bill of Rights."

Surreptitious physical entries are relatively rare under existing
surveillance laws. Such entries are made only to install hidden microphones,
an investigative technique approved only 50 times by federal and state
judges last year.

According to Sobel, "extending this extraordinary power to cases involving
computer files would make police break-ins far more common than they are
today."

The proposal followed unsuccessful efforts by FBI Director Louis Freeh and
other Justice officials to secure laws requiring built-in "back doors" so
investigators could pierce powerful encryption programs said to be a boon to
criminals.
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[CTRL] Furor rising over PC wiretap plan

1999-08-21 Thread Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard

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Saturday August 21 12:20 PM EDT


Furor rising over PC wiretap plan
Maria Seminerio, ZDNet

A U.S. Department of Justice proposal to make it easier for police to break
into homes and access computers is drawing a furious reaction from civil
libertarians and high-tech industry trade groups.
The draft legislation, for which the DOJ hopes to find a sponsor in
Congress, is dubbed the Cyberspace Electronic Security Act. The law would
make it easier for law enforcement officials to obtain from judges a
now-rarely-used authorization to break into a suspect's home and plant a
hidden listening device.

But in this case, the computer equivalent of the "listening device" is the
authorization for investigators to disable data-scrambling encryption
programs on PCs. (In order to actually copy data from the computer, police
would still need a separate warrant from a judge.)

"(The proposal) strikes at the heart of the Bill of Rights," said David
Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center.

Noting that judges in all federal and state courts combined only issued 50
warrants for so-called "surreptitious physical entries" last year, Sobel
said extending such authorization to cases involving computer files "would
make police break-ins far more common than they are now."

'Booby-trap your computer'
The proposal would "basically allow investigators to booby-trap your
computer ahead of time" by disabling encryption, he said.

The proposal was most likely spurred by the frustration investigators have
experienced when finding encrypted data on computers used by suspected drug
dealers and other criminals, he added.

DOJ officials did not respond to requests for interviews Friday. But in a
letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Acting Asst. Attorney General Jon
Jennings said the new law would aid investigators when information needs to
be deciphered "in a timely manner."

"While under existing law, law enforcement is provided with different means
to collect evidence of illegal activity, these means are rendered wholly
insufficient when encryption is used," wrote Jennings in the letter.

"In the context of law enforcement operations, stopping a terrorist attack
or seeking to recover a kidnapped child, time is of the essence and may mean
the difference between success and catastrophic failure.

"While existing means of obtaining evidence would remain applicable in a
fully-encrypted world, the failure to provide law enforcement with the
necessary ability to obtain the plain-text version of the evidence makes
existing authorities useless," he wrote.

EPIC: Congress will go 'ballistic'
Noting that the proposal would need to find a sponsor in Congress and then
be passed into law before it could take effect, EPIC's Sobel said it could
encounter resistance by lawmakers.

"I think people in Congress are going to go ballistic over this,
particularly since it's coming right on the heels of the FIDNET"
controversy, he said. FIDNET -- the controversial proposal to monitor
government and some private networks for hacking activity -- came to light
earlier this summer and remains in limbo.

Barry Steinhardt, president of the American Civil Liberties Union, said that
the Federal Bureau of Investigation has often misused its powers in the
past, and could do so again under the DOJ proposal.

"There's every reason to believe they're not just going to look at the Mob
using the powers sought under the proposal," Steinhardt said. "They'll use
this power to interfere with protected speech."

Also condemning the plan were the Computer and Communications Industry
Association, the Center for Democracy and Technology, and Americans for
Computer Privacy.

Clinton admin: Big brother?
The plan is "an unprecedented attempt by the Clinton administration to
impose 'big brother' monitoring powers over American citizens," ACP
officials said in a statement. "The fact is that current laws provide law
enforcement broad powers to obtain information."

"This is another attempt by law enforcement to do an end-run (around
encryption)," said Ed Black, president of the CCIA. "It offers a real
temptation for investigators to overreach and overextend" the current limits
on searches and seizures, he said.

"Anybody's vulnerable," Black added. "(This) resembles something the KGB
would propose."

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Banking aka laundering

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Jamie Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 New York Post
 August 21, 1999

  BANK MADE KILLING ON MOB
  By AL GUART

 The Bank of New York raked in up to $240
 million a month in fees as its crime-ridden
 counterparts in Russia used the bank to loot
 depositors and launder billions, documents show.

 BNY is at the center of an international money
 laundering probe in which officials allegedly
 funneled billions to off-shore accounts at the
 behest of banks controlled by the Russian mob.

 The well-regarded bank raked in huge profits by
 charging at least one crime-plagued Russian bank,
 Inkombank, a whopping $56 per money wire
 transfer - as much as six times higher than a
 standard rate, documents obtained by The Post
 show.

 For example, BNY made 3,131 money transfers
 for Inkombank in November 1993 totaling $1.8
 billion. The following month, the bank moved $2.1
 billion in 3,079 transactions.

 In the first three months of 1995, BNY made
 $720 million transferring funds on behalf of
 Inkombank, according to an internal memo
 written to BNY president Thomas Renyi.

 "Inkombank is our largest generator of fee income
 and they are now the largest clearing bank in
 Russia for domestic transactions," the memo said.

 An April 1996 letter, written to Fed chairman
 Alan Greenspan to help Inkombank set up a
 satellite office in the city, revealed that the bank
 made 250 payments to BNY each day.

 "In Russia, our bank is the leading clearer of U.S.
 dollar payments as well as a major processor of
 credit," the letter stated. "Needless to say, this is a
 very important and profitable relationship for our
 bank."

 That letter was penned by BNY senior vice
 president Natasha Gurfinkel Kagalovsky, who is
 at the heart of the burgeoning scandal.

 "Having worked with all of the top banks in
 Russia, there is no question that Inkombank is one
 of the most stable, sophisticated and
 technologically advanced commercial banks in
 Russia," she wrote.

 The letter was written after Russian banking
 authorities issued a scathing 200-page audit
 revealing the bank appeared to be engaged in
 criminal activity, and recommended severely
 curtailing its activities.

 The report was widely publicized, but did not stop
 BNY from continuing to do business until
 Inkombank folded last October, claiming $1.5
 billion in losses.

 Meanwhile, BNY will be slapped with a massive
 class-action lawsuit in the next few weeks for
 "aiding and abetting" Russian organized crime in
 ripping off shareholders and depositors of up to
 100 Russian banks, lawyer Emmanuel Zeltser
 said.

 "Everybody knew for years what was going on,"
 Zeltser said.





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[CTRL] Clinton fails to name IRS oversight board

1999-08-21 Thread K

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990820_xex_clint
on_fail.shtml

THE POWER TO DESTROY
Clinton fails to name
IRS oversight board
Deadline for appointments
was last January

By Stephan Archer
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
President Clinton failed to appoint members to an Internal Revenue
Service Oversight Board mandated by Congress in 1998,
WorldNetDaily has learned.
The IRS Restructuring and Reform Act of 1998 became law on July
22 of last year giving the president six months to appoint members
to the Oversight Board, according to Trent Duffey, spokesman for
the House Ways and Means Committee. The six-month deadline
was Jan. 22 of this year.
"They (the White House) were supposed to pick an independent
oversight board six months after enactment, and it's now over a
year," said Duffey. "They opposed the creation of an independent
oversight board from the very beginning. Only with great
stubbornness by (Rep. Bill) Archer and (Sen. William) Roth were
we able to keep that in the final law. They have yet to forward any
names."
Rep. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, a key architect of the 1998 IRS Reform law, believes the 
president's failure to appoint members to the board is a cause for concern. Commenting 
on the passing of the one-year anniversary of the I
RS reform enactment, Portman said, "The administration's continued failure to follow 
the law and nominate members for the Oversight Board should be a source of concern to 
all taxpayers. Over the years, the IRS has been re
markably resistant to change. The Oversight Board is needed to ensure the IRS is held 
accountable for its actions, taxpayers are treated fairly and the reforms are 
sustained over time."
The purpose of the board, as stated in the U.S. Code, is to hold regular meetings 
making sure the IRS is following the spirit and letter of the law.
"In general, the Oversight Board shall oversee the Internal Revenue Service in its 
administration, management, conduct, direction, and supervision of the execution and 
application of the internal revenue laws or related s
tatutes and tax conventions to which the United States is a party," the U.S. Code 
reads.
Commenting once again on the law, Duffey said, "It was designed to make the IRS more 
responsive to taxpayers. Supposedly, they're doing better. Audits are down. No one is 
ever completely satisfied with these people -- no
one likes tax collectors -- even going back to the Bible."
Although the numbers of audits may be down, this "relief" comes late for the many 
organizations and individuals who have endured audits -- especially those that suspect 
the motivations may be political.
One such audit was that of the Western Journalism Center, the parent company of 
WorldNetDaily. In 1996, during the audit, IRS agent Thomas Cederquist announced the 
case was political and the decision about the organizatio
n's fate would be made at the national level. Most recently, WorldNetDaily, through a 
Freedom of Information Act request, received documents from the Treasury Department 
tracing a 1994 letter that had been sent from Paul
Venze, a Los Angeles-area resident, to the White House.
Venze, in the letter, expressed concern that Western Journalism
Center, a non-profit organization, was violating its non-profit status
by publishing investigative reports concerning the death of White
House Deputy Counsel Vincent Foster. The letter, the FOIA
documents show, was sent from the White House to the IRS, and
soon after, the audit began.
The 1998 law passed by Congress included a provision making it a
crime for the president or vice president to request -- directly or
indirectly -- an IRS audit. The bill was a direct response to the furor
of political audits raised by the Western Journalism Center's
revelations in 1996.
Whether or not the White House violated the law in its earlier
audits will be up to the courts to decide. Western Journalism
Center is pressing a $10 million lawsuit against IRS and executive
branch officials. But there is no doubt in Duffey's mind the White
House is derelict in its responsibility regarding the IRS
Restructuring and Reform Act of 1998.
"It's defied the letter of the law absolutely," Duffey said


Kathleen


"The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom." -- Supreme Court 
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[CTRL] Voting Survey

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[CTRL] Computer for Sale

1999-08-21 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Let me apologize first if it is inappropriate to post this for a friend of
mine.  It sounds like a good computer and someone on the list might be
interested.  In case anyone is concerned, I'm not getting any kickback for
this.  It's just a favor for a friend.

Hilary

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[CTRL] All public Officeholders should be drug tested!

1999-08-21 Thread Bard

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Also, all candidates for public office should undergo a drug test at the
time they file to run for office.  The test should be administered by the
federal thugs in the bureauacy of the War on Drugs;  a supplemental budget
appropiation should be passed by the House to provide the funds for the
test.
All present thugs in the federal government should submit to a drug test
before the primary season commences.  The remains of our Founding Fathers
should be examined for trace elements of cocaine, etc.
This testing should include all members of the Border Patrol, as well as all
members of the military burearucy.

lol

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Re: [CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush

1999-08-21 Thread John Szocik

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The allegation should not go away-just G.W. Bush!
  How anyone with the least amount of intelligence can seriosly consider him
to lead this country is beyond me.
If he is elected President, what you'll see is this country go to hell even
more than now. Why? Old GW would have many a pay back to take care of.
Clinton sold-out our military to China, can you imagine what the hell this
spoiled-brat will do once in office?
I implore all voters to really think about this guy,we, as a nation can not
afford to have a thieving(remember the SLs he got hundreds of millions
from,and NEVER PAID BACK!)  coke sniffing liar in the White House,-AGAIN! One
is enough for this country to put up with, do we have to be embarressed and
laughed at again by the rest of the world?!
Please, please let's use our heads this time. If you don't like the current
candidates, then write-in one on your ballot, you have that right! Show this
country that we've had enough of these incompetent so-called leaders.
Our Constitution has been slowly taken away from us, little by little,. so
the average person does not notice. Elect GW, and I guarantee you, a lot more
will disappear over the four years he's in office. Remember, he's got plenty
of pay-back to take care of,  AT OUR EXPENSE!
Think really hard about it-JOHN

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[CTRL] Humor: IF NOAH LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES, TODAY......

1999-08-21 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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IF NOAH LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES, TODAY..

And the Lord spoke to Noah and said, "In one
 year, I am going to make it rain and cover the whole earth with water
until all flesh is destroyed. But I want you to save the
righteous people and two of every kind of  living thing onthe earth.
Therefore, I am commanding you to
 build an Ark."

 In a flash of lightening, God delivered the specifications for an Ark.
In fear and trembling, Noah took the
 plans and agreed to build the Ark. "Remember" said the
 Lord, "You must complete the Ark and bring everything
 aboard in one year.

Exactly one year later, fierce storm cloud covered the
 earth and all the seas of the earth went into
 a tumult. The Lord saw Noah was sitting in his front yard
 weeping. "Noah,"He shouted. "Where is the Ark?"

"Lord, please forgive me! cried Noah. "I did my best, but
there were big problems. First, I had to get a permit for
 construction and your plans did not comply with the codes.
 I had to hire an engineering firm and redraw the plans.
 Then I got into a fight with OSHA over whether or not the
 Ark needed a fire sprinkler system and flotation devices.
Then my neighbor objected, claiming I was violating zoning
ordinances by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a
variance from the city planning
 commission.  I had problems getting enough wood for the Ark, because
there was a ban on cutting trees to protect the SpottedOwl. I finally
convinced the U.S. Forest
 Service that I needed the wood to save the owls. However, the
 Fish and Wildlife Service won't let me catch any owls.
 So, no owls.

The carpenters formed a union and went out on
strike. I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor. Now I
have 16 carpenters on the Ark,
 but still no owls. When I started rounding up the other animals, got
sued by an animal rights group. They objected
 to me only taking two of each kind aboard. Just when I
 got the suit dismissed, the EPA notified me that I could
not complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact
 statement on your proposed flood. They didn't take very
 kindly to the idea that they had no jurisdiction over the conduct of
the
Creator of the universe.

Then the Army Engineers demanded a map of the
proposed new flood plain. I sent them a globe.
 Right now, I am trying to resolve a complaint filed with
 the Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission that I am practicing
discrimination by not taking godless,
 unbelieving people
aboard!

The IRS has seized my assets, claiming that
 I'm building the Ark in preparation to flee the
 country to avoid paying taxes. I just got a notice from
 the state that I owe them some kind of user tax and failed to
 register the Ark as a "recreational water craft."

Finally, the ACLU got the courts to issue an
 injunction against further construction of the Ark,
 saying that since God is flooding the earth, it is a religious
 event and therefore unconstitutional. I really don't
 think I can finish the Ark for another 5 or 6 years!" Noah
 wailed.

The sky began to clear, the sun began to shine and the
seas began to calm. A rainbow arched across  the sky.
Noah looked up hopefully. "You mean you are not going to destroy the
earth Lord?"

"No," said the Lord sadly. "I don't have to.
The government already has."

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Re: [CTRL] China's silent invasion

1999-08-21 Thread John Szocik

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This is just one of many pay-backs Clinton owes to the Chinese for the
hundreds of millions they pumped into his re-election campaign. He already
gave them our nuclear secrets and technology. Now it's time to let them bring
in whatever it is to Mexico, but under military guard? This begs the
question," what warrants this type of escort?"
If Clinton was not already aware of its contents, and not in the Chinese'
back pocket, he would, or should take the same course of action JFK did when
we did not like what the Russians had brought to Cuba.
Does everyone get the point?!
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] China's silent invasion

1999-08-21 Thread John Szocik

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Or this is exactly what Clinton wants; this gives him the excuse he needs to
invoke martial law, and put his Executive Orders into practice.
Go to one of the web sites detailing his E.O.s, and see how much power they
allow him. They practically give him dictatorial powers over the nation and
its citizens.
Read these E.O.s, you'll be shocked at what this guy(Clinton) has signed into
law!
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] how would inforian deal with you

1999-08-21 Thread zuzu



Many thanks,
I will do it right now.


Lydia T. M. Ribeiro[EMAIL PROTECTED]"nada é mais 
estranho que a verdade." 


Re: [CTRL] Oil Slick

1999-08-21 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-08-21 01:11:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Richardson is urging other oil producers to link into the Baku-Ceyhan
 route. These are reported to include Chevron and Texaco

Whether Congress is "Democratic" or "Republican," whether Gore or Bush is
president, the US will still be a government OF Big Oil, BY Big Oil, FOR Big
Oil.  America will go down in history ONLY for having had the best form of
government MONEY could buy.

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Re: [CTRL] China Warns US: Hands Off Taiwan

1999-08-21 Thread John Szocik

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Clinton will never raise a hand against China! After all, they put him in the
White House.
If he does double-cross China, after what they did for him prior to his being
re-elected, then watch for some serious repercutions toward Clinton.
Remember, JFK and RFK both bit the hands that fed them prior to to ' 60
election.
Then again, it's just speculation on my part.
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] China's silent invasion

1999-08-21 Thread John Szocik

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They weren't helpless during the Cuban Missle Crisis. Something was done
about it!
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] All public Officeholders should be drug tested!

1999-08-21 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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A few years ago the Georgia legislature in a fit of self righteousness voted
in a law requiring all candidates for state office to be tested for drugs. A
friend of mine, Walker Chandler, was running for Lt. Governor at the time
and objected to the law. He took the test, but filed a law suit (he's a
lawyer) in Federal Court. It took several years, but he eventually won at
the Supreme Court. I think the vote was almost unanimous. So, I don't think
that your suggestion would pass Constitutional muster.

Howard Davis

--
From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CTRL] All public Officeholders should be drug tested!
Date: Sat, Aug 21, 1999, 2:56 PM


  -Caveat Lector-

 Also, all candidates for public office should undergo a drug test at the
 time they file to run for office.  The test should be administered by the
 federal thugs in the bureauacy of the War on Drugs;  a supplemental budget
 appropiation should be passed by the House to provide the funds for the
 test.
 All present thugs in the federal government should submit to a drug test
 before the primary season commences.  The remains of our Founding Fathers
 should be examined for trace elements of cocaine, etc.
 This testing should include all members of the Border Patrol, as well as all
 members of the military burearucy.

 lol

 Bard

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Re: [CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush

1999-08-21 Thread K

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 Please, please let's use our heads this time. If you don't like the
 current candidates, then write-in one on your ballot, you have that
 right!

It's been a long time since I saw anything other than a
computerized voting machine.  Not much chance for a write-in
there.


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[CTRL] Dutch used septic tanks residue in animal feed

1999-08-21 Thread Richard Sampson

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Dutch used septic tanks residue in animal feed

THE HAGUE, Aug 21 (AFP) - Residue from septic tanks were used in the
making of animal feeds in the Netherlands until recently, the health
ministry revealed Saturday.

Health Minister Else Borst has decided as a precautionary measure to ban
such practices following the revelation and condemnation of similar
practices in France, the ministry said.

But it said the refuse used in making the feeds had not presented any
health hazard because they had been heated for at least 20 minutes at a
temperature of 133 degrees Celsius (207 Fahrenheit) and submitted to a
pressure of three bars.

"All germs were thus killed," a spokesman said.

A special enquiry following the French disclosures had revealed that
remains of excrement had also been used in animal foodstuffs in the
Netherlands.

Borst and her colleague agriculture state secretary Geesje Faber are
expected to provide further information to Parliament in the next few
days.

Earlier this month, the European Commission in Brussels urgently asked
France for clarification of reports that toilet sewage was being used in
French factories making pig and poultry feed.

EU agriculture director-general Guy Legras referred to what he called
alarming information in the German media and in France concerning
alleged "grave anomalies" in French knackers' yards producing meat meal.

France replied saying malfunctions found at the end of 1998 and
beginning of 1999 had ceased, and "checks have allowed the situation to
be remedied."

The French practice had been revealed by the German television channel
ARD, which claimed that several French plants had for some years
included sewage in meal they produced for pigs and poultry.

The TV programme Monitor said at least five plants in the centre of
France and in the western province of Brittany were involved. It gave as
its source an internal DGCCRF report.

The sewage, mainly from toilet excrement, could present serious health
hazards via the food chain, Monitor said.

A German expert with the department for environmental medicine at
university clinic in Freiburg in southwest Germany was quoted in the TV
program as saying such detritus could damage all organic systems
including the brain, heart, muscles and nerves.

The sewage could contain heavy metals, dioxin or resistant bacteria,
according to the expert, Franz Daschner.

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[CTRL] L.A. County is ready to BAN GUN SHOWS!!!!!

1999-08-21 Thread Bill Richer

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The battle for SB-15 the "handgun ban" is still raging.  Contact your
assemblyman and senator NOW!  Use our politician locator at the web site
www.calnra.pl.html

In other news L.A. County is ready to BAN GUN SHOWS!

Gun Owners in So. Cal. need to voice opinion fast. County Board meeting
scheduled for Tuesday Aug 24

Here's the info and contacts including email addresses.

Go Get em!

The LA Times, in collusion with the Zev Yaroslavsky
of the LA County Board of Supervisors (BOS), Chief Parks
of the LAPD, Sheriff Baca of the LASO, and HCI (all avowed
gun prohibitionists) are putting on a full court press to
cancel future Great Western Gun Shows and promote all
and any forms of Gun Prohibition.

This has been the biggest, most coordinated onslaught I
have ever seen by the Times, and they (a.k.a. Pravda West)
have a really, really bad track record already.

The Woodland Hills Jewish Center Shooting was the
spark that seemed to start this barrage of propaganda;
LA Police chief Parks came out in an LA Times in an
impossible-to-miss editorial Sunday the Assault Weapons,
Saturday Night Specials and Gun Shows must be banned for
public safety.  Then Monday, the "Great Western Gun Show
Under Scrutiny" article was on the Times' front page
(right under the picture of the weeping mother and
sisters' of the slain Woodland Hills postal worker at
his funeral), then yesterday on the front page of the
Metro (Section B), another hit piece on the gun show
and the BOS "duty" to close them (Yaroslavsky states gun
shows are "America's dirty little secret"), and today
a double header (two long anti-gun articles) on the front
page of the Metro section.

This is an amazingly well coordinated effort by what I
see as the fascist relationship of the media and the
Liberal Element of our Government to shape public policy
by slanted, extremely one-sided reporting with the sole
intent of creating law to violate and abolish civil
rights.

No doubt the rest of the so-called "news" media will be
joining in soon.

Obviously, if they succeed here, it will be going
Nationwide on short order.

In the following I have included a search on "gun"
of articles in the LA Times for the month of August.
I have also included a few of those articles in their
Entirety.  Get your barf bag ready... (refer to web site)

I am urging you to follow-up and send a fax to the LA County
Board of Supervisors. I talked to Antonovich's staff this
afternoon, and he said that Molina (D) and Brathwaite-Burke
might be persuaded to abstain, and Knabe needs to be lobbied
hard to hold fast on our side (he has gone in both directions
on our issues before).

People to come and speak  ( his office will make parking
arrangements  saves you at least $9 - if you call in advance to
213-974- ) meets at 9:30 a.m., in the Board's Hearing Rm (381B Kenneth
Hahn  Hall of Administration, 500 West Temple St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

2)  Faxes against the ban  - fax to Co Sup Exec. Office at
 213-633-5100  - address to the Board of Supervisors, and the office will
copy and distribute to all members.

3)  Letters against the ban  (hurry - mail is slow)
 - mail toL.A. County Board of Supervisors
 383 Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration
 500 West Temple Street
 Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 974-1411

4)  Email   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Joanne Sturges
  Executive Officer
  Executive Office of the Board of Supervisors
  383 Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration
  500 West Temple Street
  Los Angeles, CA 90012
  (213) 974-1411
  Fax (213) 633-5100
  Fax (213) 620-0636

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  District #1 Supervisor:
  GLORIA MOLINA
  869 Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration
  500 West Temple Street
  Los Angeles, CA 90012
  Phone: (213) 974-4111
  Fax: (213) 613-1739
  Internet address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  District #2 Supervisor:
  YVONNE BRATHWAITE BURKE
  869 Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration
  500 West Temple Street
  Los Angeles, CA 90012
  Phone: (213) 974-
  Fax: (213) 680-3283
  Internet address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  District #3 Supervisor:
  ZEV YAROSLAVSKY
  869 Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration
  500 West Temple Street
  Los Angeles, CA 90012
  Phone: (213) 974-
  Fax: (213) 625-7360
  Internet address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  District #4 Supervisor:

[CTRL] Hungry Lobbyists Gnawing Away At Democracy

1999-08-21 Thread K

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Hungry Lobbyists Gnawing Away At Democracy
Filed August 19, 1999
Imagine my surprise last week when I read an article about
lobbying as an indicator of a healthy democracy. The picture of
health turned out to be Mexico, where the end of one-party rule has
led to an outburst of lobbying. South of the border all this activity is
seen as a barometer of greater democratic openness. But if that's
how it feels at the dawn of democracy, back in the States it must
be twilight.
The founding democratic principle of ``one man, one vote'' has been
replaced by the new math of special interests: thousands of
lobbyists plus multi-millions of dollars equals access and influence
out of the reach of ordinary citizens. From 1997 to 1999, according
to the Center for Responsive Politics, the number of registered
lobbyists in Washington grew by a whopping 37 percent to more
than 20,000, while the amount of money spent reached $1.42
billion. Crunch the numbers and it works out to roughly 38
lobbyists for each member of Congress. It's no wonder the last few
years have produced a succession of designer giveaways, like the
one specially crafted by Rep. Jennifer Dunn (R-Wash.) for
Nordstrom, headquartered in her district, which would provide
department stores with tax-exempt subsidies from mall developers.
One hundred thirty-eight of Washington's registered lobbyists are
former members of Congress, two-thirds of whom left the Hill after
1990. Democrats? Republicans? It really doesn't matter. As
legendary lobbyist J.D. Williams once said, ``I'm prepared for
anything except a Communist takeover -- and I could get ready for
that in 24 hours.''
Exiting pols are, in growing numbers, going through Capitol Hill's
revolving door, quickly reappearing as glad-handing, arm-twisting
lobbyists. Under current law, former members of Congress cannot
directly lobby their colleagues for one year after leaving office,
although they can set up their lobbying shops and start peddling
their influence. When Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) recently tried to
make it a two-year ban, you would have thought he was taking on
God, country and Mom's apple pie. ``The speaker is opposed to it,''
said Denny Hastert's spokesman. ``In his view, it is unfair to
members and staff.'' This is one area where bipartisanship reigns.
``Our leadership will be against it,'' echoed Rep. Ed Pastor (D-Ariz.).
The truth is that former members can get plenty done long before
their year on the sidelines is up. Look at ex-congressman Bob
Livingston, who took that short stroll from Capitol Hill to K Street in
March and is already using the expertise and power he amassed
as chairman of the Appropriations Committee to recruit clients for
his Livingston Group -- among them defense contractors seeking
some of the taxpayer dollars Livingston used to dole out. So
Livingston is on the go, building his client list, organizing trade
shows to lobby Congress and schmoozing over golf with erstwhile
colleagues like Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.). ``The pay is a little better,''
Livingston concedes. ``I'm eating in all kinds of restaurants I'd never
heard of before.''
On the other side of the aisle, former New York congressman
Thomas Downey, who was defeated in 1992, is well into the
lucrative game. Last year alone, his firm collected $1.8 million in
lobbying fees from 47 clients. They will all be well positioned
should his pal Al Gore become president.
Of course, politicians never admit that their votes are on the trading
block. ``I am involved in so many issues,'' said Senate Majority
Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), ``I could almost not accept a
contribution from anybody.'' But the lobbyists who influence
senators are not just anybody. They are players in the same
political game, just fielding different positions. And if you keep your
eye on the legislative scoreboard, you'll see just what All-Stars
they are.
For instance, last year, Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) introduced a
one-year pilot program requiring meatpackers to reveal the prices
they pay for livestock. But lobbyists hired by the American Meat
Institute -- including heavyweights like former House Minority
Leader Bob Michel, former Agriculture Secretary Clayton Yeutter
and former Republican National Committee Chairman Haley
Barbour -- sprang into action and persuaded lawmakers to kill the
provision.
Lobbyists don't always get their way, but even in their failures we
get a picture of the magnitude of the abuse. In 1997, Barbour was
hired by Big Tobacco to help shepherd through Congress its $368
billion settlement with state attorneys general. The deal fell
through, but in the process Barbour managed to convince his GOP
cronies to give the industry a $50 (ital) billion (unital) tax break.
This Beltway bounty was slipped into the final conference report,
away from prying eyes. And it would have become law had Sen.
Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) not blown the whistle. Once the tax ploy was
exposed in broad daylight, there was no one willing to defend 

[CTRL] Going to war to save 2nd Amendment

1999-08-21 Thread Bill Richer

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From: Rich Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   Dear armed Americans,

   Advertising Creative Director, Jim Houck, working with the Lawyers
   Second Amendment Society (LSAS, www.rightguide.com/Links/lsas.htm),
   has formed a non-profit corporation for the sole purpose of giving all
   American firearms owners, big and small, a way to strike back and
   strike back hard against the Rights Killers.
   After repeated attempts to work with NRA and GOA, Mr. Houck made the

   decision, along with the LSAS, to form an elite commando-style
   organization in order to bypass bureaucracy and time-consuming
   political red tape and get into the fight.  The NRA and GOA have a
   role in this fight and are doing all they can and are to be credited
   with such.  But there is an overwhelming need for an operational group
   which can strike fast, strike hard and strike without fear of
   political reprisal.  This is such a group.
   Every dollar received will go into extremely aggressive advertising,

   TV, print, radio, outdoor and guerilla, with a single purpose, to
   destroy those who are tampering with 2nd Amendment freedom.  This
   campaign will not be apologetic, it will not play fair, it will hit
   below the belt whenever the opportunity presents itself, it will not
   take prisoners.  In short, it will be very aggressive and very
   effective.
   There are some people out there who would like to get into the
fight,
   but for career reasons or political reasons cannot.  Here is your
   chance.  There are many who would like to get into the fight, but have
   no way of doing so.  Now you can take a swing directly at the teeth of
   people like Chuck Schumer, impeached-President Bill Clinton, Sarah
   Brady, you name it.
   The campaign will be created and managed by Creative Director, Jim
   Houck, a career advertising professional who has done work for
   bluechip clients like Toyota, DIESEL Jeans, Mitusibishi, Procter 
   Gamble, Sony, The Miami Heat Professional Basketball Team and Sunglass
   Hut International, to name a few.
   The company has been created by and will be managed by attorney Dan
   Schultz of the LSAS.
   Creative campaigns are in progress and will be operational as soon
as
   a budget has been amassed and media buys can be made.
   Please make copies and forward to all concerned parties.
   Send your checks (NO CASH, WE'RE PLAYING BY THE BOOK AND EXPECT
   AUDITS AND CLAIMS OF THEFT FROM THE RIGHTS KILLERS) immediately to:

   LAWYERS SECOND AMENDMENT SOCIETY
   PMB  447
   2118 WILSHIRE BLVD.
   SANTA MONICA, CA 90403

   In the memo section of your check write 'Operation We the People'.

   As you may have noticed, we have purposely located in the heart of
   enemy territory.
   Already I have been asked what my response will be to those who
   question my advertising on the grounds of political correctness.
   Considering that 'political correctness2' is a ten dollar way of saying
   'censorship', my official response is, screw'em.

   Going to war,

   Jim Houck
   Creative Director, Los Angeles
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL FIREARMS OWNERS

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[CTRL] VOICE Of The GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-08-18-B

1999-08-21 Thread Bill Richer

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VOICE Of The GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-08-18-B
===
ARTICLE 6
~~
A SON GRADUATES FROM THE USAFA
~~
SUMMARY: A Canadian citizen comments on his son's graduation at USAFA.
**
Retransmitted from the Calgary Canada Herald without comment.

BY: David Bly, Calgary Herald, COLORADO SPRINGS -

The day Bill Clinton came to the United States Air Force Academy at Colorado
Springs, I stood, cameras in hand, near a wall upon which was engraved the
academy's code of honor: "We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate
among us anyone who does." If only the U.S. president would wander past that
wall, I thought. A photo like that could ensure me a comfortable retirement.

Clinton and I were at the academy this month for the graduation of the Class
of 1999, he as commander-in-chief of the U.S. armed forces, and I as the
father of one of the 944 graduates. As my wife, Janet, is a U.S. citizen, my
children have their choice of citizenship. Our son Brandon, wanting a career
in aviation, applied to the air force academy because there is no comparable
opportunity anywhere in the world. He graduated with a degree in
aeronautical engineering, was commissioned as an air force officer and will
begin training as a jet pilot next spring.

Graduation from any university is an achievement worth celebrating. At the
USAFA, it's the culmination of four grueling years of study, training and
discipline. Some don't make it for physical, academic or emotional reasons.
A few decide, after two years, they would rather choose another path. Some
are expelled for violating the honor code. The USAFA rates high
academically, but its aim is more than academics strives to develop moral
and ethical leadership. As cadets pursue their degrees of choice, they are
being trained to become air force officers. Integrity and a high standard of
conduct are expected.

We were not excited about the presidential visit. For us, it was an
annoyance. Brandon's commissioning ceremony had to be moved to 5:45 p.m.,
because Clinton wanted to use the building where the commissioning was
scheduled. Later, we had to be in our stadium seats two hours before the
graduation, because of security. For others, it was an insult I heard of
retired air force officers who boycotted the graduation, because they felt
Clinton's participation, given Monica Lewinsky and other scandals, detracted
from the dignity of the event. The air force academy is a military base, but
it is also a popular tourist spot. Each day at noon, busloads of tourists
arrive to watch 4,000 cadets line up and march to lunch in an elaborate
parade that leaves the cadets only 15 minutes to eat. On the day Clinton
came to town, some areas were closed as security was beefed up. Access was
limited to those invited to the graduation. It would not have been a safe
day to go skulking through the academy's forests with bird-watching
binoculars.

As the stadium filled, helicopters pounded the air overhead. Entrance was
through metal detectors. Handbags were searched. Snipers in battle dress
patrolled the top tiers of the stadium. Sprinkled throughout the crowd were
secret-service agents, easy to spot because they wore dark suits, sunglasses
and earpieces. They spoke into their sleeves a lot and scanned the crowds
constantly. There was nothing secret about them.

Clinton's imminent entrance was announced. We stood. And we stood. Eight
minutes later, the president of the United States of America walked on to
the football field and toward the podium. No explanation was given for why
he kept 30,000 people waiting on their feet in the sun. As he walked under
the crossed sabres of the honor guard, the applause was restrained and
polite, but not enthusiastic. Around me, I heard comments about respecting
the office, if not the man. No one jeered, but no one cheered. As I watched
the newly minted second lieutenants stand to salute their commander in
chief, I wondered how many of them were thinking what I was thinking: "If
Bill Clinton had been a cadet here, he would have been kicked out for lying
and cheating."

Actually, he probably wouldn't have qualified for admission. To enter the
academy, an applicant must first be nominated by a member of Congress. This
year, 8,800 applied for nomination and 2,148 qualified. Of those, 1,275
received appointments to the academy. They were chosen on the basis of such
criteria as academics, athletics, citizenship and leadership. And moral
character. If Clinton was aware of the lukewarm reception, he didn't show
it. He cracked his jokes, defended his actions in the Balkans and took
personal credit for saving democracy as we know it.

As he announced he was sending 7,000 more troops to the Balkans, I heard
more muttered comments about sending troops to a foreign country to distract
attention from personal problems at home. His manner was 

[CTRL] VOICE Of The GRUNT Newsletter, 1999-08-18-A

1999-08-21 Thread Bill Richer

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*
**  VOICE OF THE GRUNT
**
**  18 August 1999
**

*

TABLE OF CONTENTS   ARTICLES
Hack's Column
The Way It Was And The Way It Is
1
Mac Notes
2
From The Field:
Qual Day - Rifle Range - 160/240
3
Superbowl On A Passing Game 4
"Let He Who Is Without Sin..."  5
A Son Graduates From The USAFA  6
Medal of Honor:
*Shields, Marvin G., CM3C, USN, Seabee Team 11047
Dong Xoai, RVN, 10 June 1965
Commentary:
Military Goes By The Book, But It's A Novel
8
*Denotes a posthumous award
===
ARTICLE 1
~
THE WAY IT WAS AND THE WAY IT IS
~
By David H. Hackworth, 17 August 1999

"Never point a weapon at someone unless you intend to kill 'em,"
roared Sergeant Allen. He slapped my M-1 rifle so hard the butt slammed me
in the jaw. Then, with me shouting "I'm a dumb-ass recruit," he ran me until
I keeled over.

I never forgot that lesson nor, like most recruits who met up with
him, did I ever forget his name. Or the lessons he taught or the discipline
he instilled. His "STAY ALERT, STAY ALIVE" mantra saved my life dozens of
times over the next 25 years. My jaw still tingles whenever I think of him.

Later, when I became a sergeant, I passed his wisdom on to the men
who served with me in Italy during Round One of the Balkan War and during
the Korean and Vietnam conflicts. And I'm sure his savvy saved many a young
grunts life during those years, too.

Sergeant Allen was my Basic Training platoon sergeant in the spring
of 1946. When he shaped up 15-year-old Recruit Hackworth along with 40
other sad sacks, he gave new meaning to the words stress, yell, and cajole.
He demanded exactness 24 hours a day, seven days a week. If we were less
than perfect, there'd be push ups, squat jumps, midnight details like
cleaning the inside of a toilet bowel with a razor blade or shining the
barracks floor with a small piece of cotton and shoe polish until your
fingertips bled.

Sergeant Allen -- 53 years later, I still wouldn't dare call him
anything but Sergeant -- was not a sadistic monster. He'd seen the elephant
and knew what it took to keep men alive. He had just come back from
kill-or-be-killed environments -- Africa, Sicily and Italy -- and had seen
too many
peach-faced kids turned into purple mush because a sergeant hadn't been
tough enough.

During my basic training, the only officers I saw were on payday and
on the firing range. NCOs were gods, and they ran the show.

Now things have changed -- not for the better. The officers and
sociologists have taken over, and few have ever led a squad in combat. These
kinder gentler folks have gotten their learning from books and lectures, and
few have a clue about what's needed to survive. No way can their
"Consideration for others" training help a soldier drive a bayonet in his
opponent's gut or give him the sharp reaction needed when a sergeant yells
"Knock out that machine gun."

I regularly talk with dozens of Army Drill sergeants, and they tell
me this new, politically correct approach is creating an Army that's
marshmallow soft. Here's what they're saying:

"Road marches are now conducted at 4 kilometers an hour. My
seven-year-old hikes faster. No wonder our new privates can't hump a
twelve-miler when they get to a line unit."

"A sergeant was marching his platoon and he shouted at them to get
in step. The brigade CO (a full colonel) locked his heels together and read
him the riot act for yelling at the privates."

"The philosophy here is that the only stress the private should have
is between himself and the task. If we can't create artificial stress, we're
setting ourselves up for colossal failure."

"We have a new Sgt. Major and he told the privates if they think the
Drill Sergeant is being too hard on them to bypass the chain of command,
come see him and he'll take care of it."

"Drill Sergeants are not allowed to make the privates do pushups, or
run on FILL DAY (first day): a no-stress fill. There's almost no training on
Saturday so the privates can take it easy."

"We have to let the trainees go to concerts, a mandatory mall visit
in their 6th week of training, and we have to cancel a day of training so
they can participate in the monthly retirement ceremony. Should I mention
the mandatory museum visit during their 2nd weekend of training? All of this
to reduce 'stress.' Yes, Sir, we're training some warriors over here."

The new Army Chief of Staff better talk to his Drill Sergeants
without any officers around and get the straight skinny. Or invest heavily
in body bags and white flags.

[CTRL] Al-Shifa

1999-08-21 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

From FAIR

 FAIR  Fairness  Accuracy In Reporting 130 W. 25th Street
 New York, NY 10001

 WILL THE MEDIA REMEMBER AL-SHIFA?
 Embassy Bombings Commemorated Without Mention of Factory Attack


 August 17, 1999
 Contact: Seth Ackerman

 This month marks the anniversary of the August 7, 1998 terrorist
 attacks on American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, which
 claimed the lives of 224 people, including 12 Americans. The
 anniversary has received substantial media attention, including
 stories on NBC's Sunday Today (8/8/99), ABC's World News Saturday
 (8/7/99), CBS's Evening News (8/7/99), and the Washington Post
 (8/8/99), the New York Times (8/7/99), and Los Angeles Times
 (8/7/99).

 But virtually absent from this coverage has been any mention of
 the U.S. response which followed those attacks: the cruise
 missile raids launched two weeks later by President Clinton
 against camps in Afghanistan and against the Al-Shifa
 pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan.

 Although U.S. officials originally claimed the Sudanese factory
 was involved in the production of chemical weapons and had links
 to accused terrorist Osama bin Laden, those assertions—along with
 many of the subsequent, shifting allegations offered in the days
 following the attack—have turned out to be inaccurate.

 To date, the U.S. has presented no convincing evidence directly
 linking the factory to either bin Laden or chemical weapons. But
 it should be noted that even if the U.S. could offer credible
 evidence that the Al-Shifa plant made chemical weapons, or that
 it was linked to bin Laden, the missile strike would almost
 certainly still be a violation of the United Nations charter and
 a serious contravention of international law. The Charter permits
 countries to use force only in "self-defense" against an "armed
 attack"—an attack which, according to the accepted legal
 standard, must be so imminent as to leave "no choice of means,
 and no moment of deliberation."

 August 20 will mark the anniversary of the Al-Shifa attack. With
 the notable exceptions of the Washington Post and U.S. News 
 World Report, which recently ran informative articles about the
 Al-Shifa case (Washington Post, 7/25/99; U.S. News World Report,
 8/16-23/99), the mainstream media have paid little attention to
 the Al Shifa case.

 FAIR encourages journalists to use the anniversary of the cruise
 missile attacks as an opportunity to review the evidence upon
 which the Sudan attack was based, and the legality of the attacks
 on both Sudan and Afghanistan. Media outlets should look back in
 their reporting not only on crimes committed against the U.S.,
 but also on possible crimes committed by the U.S.
 -
 ---


 For more information on the media's response to the Al-Shifa
 attack, please read "Media in Cruise Control."



 In These Times

 MEDIA CRITIC:

 Media in Cruise Control

 By Jeff Cohen and Seth Ackerman

 In the wake of U.S. military strikes abroad, mainstream media
 coverage tends to follow a traditional script. International law,
 if mentioned at all, is treated as mere platitude, not as a
 specific body of precedent. After the recent cruise missile
 attacks on a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant and Afghan
 paramilitary camps, for example, few reporters inquired into what
 "self-defense" actually means in international law. (See
 "Inalienable Right," below.)

 Civilian casualties of U.S. attacks--if shown at all in the
 mainstream media--appear briefly and after warnings that the
 footage is likely part of a propaganda campaign. In contrast to
 U.S. victims of foreign terrorists, we rarely learn the names of
 civilian victims or hear their families' reactions to the attack.
 True to script, Sudanese civilian victims made only cameo
 appearances in American media.

 And only because of the media-hyped sex scandal raging around
 Bill Clinton did some mainstream reporters diverge from the
 traditional script to question the President's political motives
 (a la Wag the Dog). It's refreshing to see Washington reporters
 finally asking such questions--queries rarely raised when past
 presidents capitalized politically on military adventures.

 Another departure from script, though slow in coming in U.S.
 media, was the questioning of the Clinton administration's
 evidence for targeting the Sudan factory. Within two days of the
 attack, the European press was quoting factory managers, among
 others, to puncture the initial U.S. claim that the Sudan plant
 was a terrorist-funded nerve gas factory with no civilian
 purpose. In fact, terror suspect Osama bin Laden had no
 discernable link to the plant, which produced much of Sudan's
 medicine. Perhaps slowed by the U.S. media mantra that Sudanese
 openness to plant inspection was a propaganda ploy, it took the
 New York Times more than a week to clearly report that U.S.
 justifications had been "inaccurate, misleading or 

[CTRL] all we have left is the Vote ...

1999-08-21 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

Let Freedom ring ... again in 11/2000.


if we don't use it folks, then we deserve our
continued enslavement.

if you know of another "way out",
please advise forthwith.

it's you people who aren't voting or voting
for demo/repub thugs that's enslaving us all.

the status quo is sucking us dry!!!
compare the individual tax rates folks; 1950/90

lol

Bard

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[CTRL] Dictatorship of Debt

1999-08-21 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From www.oneworld.com/ni/issue312/keynote.htm

 Third World debt enriches the powerful at the expense of the
 world's poor majority. David Ransom calls for a new beginning.

 Had someone in any way typical of the Uruguayan population ever
 actually asked for a loan from the international bank in
 Montevideo where I once worked, I’m quite certain they would
 never have got it. The mere look of them would have been enough.
 A part-time clerk wants an advance! A labourer with no collateral
 expects credit! A woman from the barrios seeks an unsecured loan!
 A gaucho (cowboy) with just a horse to his name needs to borrow!
 From the bank? Contemptuous ridicule would have been unconfined –
 which is doubtless why I never saw such a person step through the
 door.

 So quite how it happened that by 1990 every single man, woman and
 child in Uruguay had become liable for debts equivalent to their
 entire annual income – without even asking for them, let alone
 receiving any of the cash – is at first sight something of a
 mystery.

 Take a closer look, however, and you’ll find that the explanation
 is simple. In 1973 there was a military coup in Uruguay and it
 ushered in a very nasty little dictatorship that for a while
 imprisoned proportionally more people than anywhere else on
 earth. The Uruguayan economy had gone belly-up and powerful
 people who owed large sums of money to international banks were
 facing ruin. So the generals decreed that it was ‘in the national
 interest’ to bail them out by borrowing from exactly the same
 banks, only this time in the name of the Uruguayan people.

 The banks were desperate to lend. The Organization of Oil
 Producing and Exporting Countries (OPEC) had just agreed a sharp
 oil-price hike and as a result were collecting a vast extra
 income of dollars which they deposited with the banks. So large
 was the quantity of these ‘petrodollars’ that the banks didn’t
 know quite how to recycle them at their usual levels of profit.
 Dictatorships that could exact repayments from their cowering
 populations with relative ease must have seemed like a pretty
 good bet for a secure and handsome return.

 Picture: A bed of nails behind the bank in Mumbai
 PAUL SMITH / PANOS PICTURES


 This combination of dictatorship, foreign loans and the transfer
 of private liabilities on to public backs was not confined to
 Uruguay. For 20 years, between the mid-1960s and mid-1980s,
 despotism pervaded Latin America and employed an ingenious
 variety of scams wherever it went. Sometimes the money was
 borrowed for grandiose projects, sometimes it was simply filched,
 usually both – and always in the interests of political power
 that had quite openly been usurped.

 Similar, too, was the experience across Africa and Asia. From
 Mobutu in Zaire to Suharto in Indonesia and Marcos in the
 Philippines, tawdry despots with powerful friends and large
 appetites for personal wealth were financed with enthusiasm by
 the international banking fraternity. Indeed, it seemed to work
 so well that the credit lines became almost limitless –
 particularly if the governments in question were fighting on the
 right side of the Cold War and buying large quantities of
 armaments from Northern suppliers. Third World debt rose from
 less than $100 billion in 1970 to some $600 billion in 1980.

 Eventually, however, governments began to run into financial
 trouble themselves. The loans they had raised and squandered on
 daft projects or salted away in private bank accounts became so
 large that their subject countries ran out of foreign exchange
 and tax revenues with which to pay them back. There was a real
 danger of ‘default’.

 When this was being considered by Mexico in 1982 the American
 Government stepped in to protect the interests of the US private
 banks that held most of the Mexican debt. The International
 Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank were instructed to step in
 alongside the US Government and bail out the private banks. The
 transfer of private debt into public liability was thereby
 complete – and the Third World debt crisis had begun.

 Picture: Do as you're told: a billboard in Accra, Ghana, issues
 the instructions. RON GILING / STILL PICTURES



 Private banks were now free to move on to fresh pastures, like
 ‘booming’ Southeast Asia and China. Where, of course, exactly the
 same thing would eventually happen all over again.

 Ironic that this, the most colossal of all ‘nationalizations’,
 should have passed by unremarked and at a time when
 ‘privatization’ was an article of economic faith. Odd, too, that
 unlike earlier nationalizations intended – in theory at least –
 to increase public control over private interests, this one had
 precisely the opposite effect. It subjected the people of these
 countries to a dictatorship so complete that eventually dictators
 themselves became redundant.

 All of this rested on a crude threat. Unless debtor governments
 agreed to certain 

[CTRL] No matter how many generations removed,we are still brothers and sisters.

1999-08-21 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

http://icons.co.za/africa/zulu.htm

These clans grew like enlarged families,
with leadership following down through the original male line.

(the only problem is:  when the Slaves were freed by the White Man,
the White Man turned around and used their thugs to
enslave us all; but we weren't too concerned because "they"
offered us 'Security' that out Rights would not be
infringed.)

Bard

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[CTRL] Injections International

1999-08-21 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From http://www.igc.org/igc/pn/hl/99081724338/hl3.html

 Originally posted in IGC member conference: ai.news
 Date: August 12, 1999
 Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 /* Written 3:43 AM  Aug 12, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 in ai.news */ /* -- "USA/PHILIPPINES: World leader in le"
 -- */

 * News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty
 International * News Service 151/99 AI INDEX: ACT 50/06/99 12
 August 1999

 USA/Philippines

 World leader in lethal injections sets deadly example

 The scheduled killings of eight people in the USA and Philippines
 during the next seven days are linked by a deadly connection
 extending beyond the calculated cruelty of executions and their
 affront to human dignity, Amnesty International said today.

 The fingerprints of the USA -- world leader in killing prisoners
 by lethal injection -- mark the executions carried out in the
 Philippines, Amnesty International said. We are witnessing the
 deadly fruits of an international working relationship between an
 old hand and a newcomer.

 As part of his governments plans to resume executions after a
 20-year gap, the then Philippines prisons chief, Vicente Vinarao,
 reportedly visited several US states in 1997 to learn from their
 experience of lethal injection. After witnessing an execution in
 Texas he was later quoted as saying that his own executioners
 would probably be sent to the United States for training.

 There have also been unconfirmed reports indicating that the
 Philippines authorities may have imported lethal injection
 equipment from the USA. But even if they did not import the
 technology, they have certainly imported the technique.

 Four men face death by lethal injection in the Philippines
 between 16 and 18 August. The USA has executed four prisoners in
 the past week. By 18 August it plans to have killed four more by
 lethal injection in Texas and Virginia.

 The USAs increasing resort to judicial killings -- against the
 global trend and often in violation of international standards --
 is setting an appalling example for the rest of the world,
 Amnesty International continued

 To in any way assist another country in learning how best to
 execute prisoners renders null and void repeated US claims to be
 the worlds leading force for human rights.

 The mode of execution in the Philippines was changed by Congress
 from electrocution to lethal injection in February 1996. Five men
 have been put to death since the country resumed executions in
 February 1999 with the killing of Leo Echegaray. One of them,
 Eduardo Agbayani, was executed in June for the rape of his
 daughter, who had pleaded for his life to be spared. President
 Estrada decided to grant him clemency, but the phone call to the
 death chamber came minutes too late.

 We deeply regret that President Estrada has not used the cruel
 debacle of that execution to lead the Philippines away from state
 killing, Amnesty International said. Instead, he is set to almost
 double his countrys judicial death toll within the next few days.

 At least one person is sentenced to death every day in the
 Philippines, where the death penalty is mandatory for a high
 number of offences. This happens despite persistent reports that
 suspects in criminal cases have been tortured in custody before
 their trial to extract confessions. Worldwide appeals for
 clemency continue to flood into US and Philippines officials.
 While there have been links between executions in the Philippines
 and US at an official level, a connection also runs through the
 abolitionist community.

 In 1998, members of the Journey of Hope, a US organization of
 murder victims and death row inmates relatives, travelled to the
 Philippines to campaign against the resumption of executions.
 Among them was Lois Robison, whose son Larry is scheduled to die
 in Texas on 17 August.

 As with any execution, the killing of Larry Robison will only
 create more victims, Amnesty International said. Rather than
 offering any constructive solutions to violent crime, his killing
 will be a final brutal act in a failure of crime prevention.

 Larry Robison was diagnosed as a chronic paranoid schizophrenic
 three years before his crime, but the Texas mental health care
 services repeatedly said that they did not have the resources to
 treat him unless he turned violent.

 Texas has had no such hesitation in devoting massive resources to
 its own brutal response to Larry Robisons crime, Amnesty
 International continued. By the time he is led to the execution
 chamber, it will have cost the state more than two million
 dollars to get him there.

 Larry Robison is set to become the 98th person executed in Texas
 under George W. Bushs governorship. The Governors 99th execution
 is scheduled for the following day. Governor Bush is currently
 campaigning to become the USAs next President under the flag of
 compassionate conservatism.

 The imminent execution of 

Re: [CTRL] Kreeping Kopping

1999-08-21 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

This has been going on for quite some time and is getting
ready to breakcertain large players are holding the
goods over clnton administrations head for purposes of
coercion and special treatment...others are going to leak
anyway.  This can only be called retroactive legislation, as
so much is today, to cover up PAST illegal activities by
legislating for them in supposed futuristic scenarios.

Alamaine Ratliff wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 These relate to personal privacy but also to issues relating
 to 'Freedom of the Press', "Free Speech', and the rights of the
 citizenry to conduct their lives without undue gov't intrusion.
 They're also related to the The Strange Case of Ed Moloney (from
 No Ireland) but pertain specifically to the US of A.

 From EPIC

  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
  August 20, 1999
 
   NEW WHITE HOUSE COMPUTER SURVEILLANCE PLAN
   WOULD POSE UNPRECEDENTED THREAT TO PRIVACY
 
  WASHINGTON, DC -- The Electronic Privacy Information Center
  (EPIC) today warned that a new Clinton Administration proposal
  could result in an unprecedented intrusion into the sanctity of
  private homes and businesses.  The White House plan would enable
  federal and local law enforcement agents to secretly break into
  private premises and alter computer equipment to collect e-mail
  messages and other electronic information.   As the Washington
  Post reported today, t

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[CTRL] A response to NSA Tech:mind control article

1999-08-21 Thread David Crockett Williams





-Original Message-From: 
gene johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: David 
Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Saturday, August 21, 1999 5:37 PMSubject: Re: NSA Tech: mind 
control article 
David Crockett Williams wrote: 
Heavy survey use during times of war, 
economic strife and political elections. War against drugs. Used to 
identify investments that have high yield to support clandestine 
operations. Used to direct field agents...
The following was sent to me by Will Filer [EMAIL PROTECTED] on July 
 27, 1999. It offers a new 
explanation for government mind control. 
Thank you for sending me this post. I responded to it when it first 
came out. Will Filer is a pseudonym for Dick Farley and 
several other contributors to disinformation in the UFO, alien presence, and 
mindcontrol domains. He was associated with the Brother Blue Lodge 
web site that was loaded with the most blatant propaganda I have seen, 
including the Cathy O'Brian 'sex robot' disinformation farce. 
Cloudrider is Brother Farley's Net handle. He has no background in the 
hard sciences, and has been jealously harassing me and other scientists since 
we have been posting in the MC domain. 
The trick to the type of propaganda in the NSA-info post is to mix a few 
facts, a few easy to believe items, and then to insert fear-evoking 
infeasible sci-fi type propositions. Most lay persons have an extremely 
difficult time discriminating the facts from the disinformation. 
Much of this type of activity is designed to put pressure on the government 
to not classify defense-related projects. I am for openness WORLDWIDE, 
but until that can be brought about it is in your and my interests as US 
citizens not to have any high-tech device technology fall into rogue and 
terrorist hands. Simultaneously, we must be hypervigilant toward an use of 
devices on our fellow US citizens. Part of hypervigilance is to be 
able to discriminate what are symptoms of brain system dysregulation that occur 
from stress, sleep loss, mid-life crises, drug abuse, etc. from what are 
symptoms of non-lethal weapons device use on humans. I am working 14 
hour days seven days/week on that effort with regular harassment and attacks 
from persons that don't appear to be able to understand the importance of 
that type of information or have other agendas, some of which are unethical at 
best, and perhaps even criminal. 
I have discovered that some persons operating Net groups in the mindcontrol 
domain are encouraging persons that they know are suffering from mental 
illness to protest to the government as persons being subjected to 
non-lethal weapons device. Further, some of these Net operators actively 
dissuade these persons from seeking medical treatment that could likely reduce 
their suffering and chronic brain damage. I see that behavior as 
highly unethical.   
  Will has stated to me that he 
is a former consultant to the U.S. 
 National Security Agency 
and asked me to post this information 
 immediately. He also 
believes he is in immediate danger because of 
 this information.  
This type of disinformation is posted to MC-L about every 6 months. The 
previous one of this type that was similar was posted last New Years Eve . 
Actually, no consultant to the NSA would have system level information of 
this simulated type in the first place, David. Thomas and Rense hype this 
stuff regularly in a more subtle manner than a Limbaugh or a Liddy might do, 
for example. Hi tech disinformation draws on well written science fiction 
and often makes allusion to that genre. With the proliferation of 
Hollywood special effects ladened movies and futuristic TV sci-fi dramas 
about robots, cyborg, brain implants, even normally thoughtful persons are 
subject to disinformation operations. Also, there is a general tendency 
of scientific illiteracy in the US population that adds to the 
susceptibility. 
If there are any particular techniques mentioned in the Will Filer document 
that seem likely to be in functional operation to you or others you know, I 
would be more that pleased to present my view. There is so much disinformation 
on the Net now that I am getting much practice. It is not hard for 
paid professional and retired political operatives to overwhelm the Net groups 
with disinformation and propaganda. 
For an interesting example, suppose that you were to post that YOU, DCW are 
the reembodied Second Coming of the Christ ready to emerge as a millennium 
Global Savior. Challenge me to prove you are not. Would not that be an 
endless task!! You could say that you had implants from all of the Adepts 
and Masters of the Ages. You could speak of the enlightenment 
epiphanies of your youth and of you contacts with Masters from other lands. 
You could claim a secret Remote Viewing implant that allows for multiplex 
global envisioning. Since you have some visionary skills already, a few wise 
acts of knowledge would 

[CTRL] Nature of Fascism

1999-08-21 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

From



 USA: The Nature of Fascism

 Originally posted in IGC member conference: peoplestrib
 Date: August 12, 1999
 Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 /* Written 6:17 PM  Aug 12, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in peoplestrib
 */ /* -- "08-99 What is the nature of fascism" --
 */

 *
 *
 People's Tribune/Tribuno del Pueblo (Online Edition)
   Vol. 26 No. 8/ August, 1999

  P.O. Box 3524, Chicago, IL  60654
http://www.lrna.org

 *
 *

 4. WHAT IS THE NATURE OF FASCISM TODAY?

 By Bob Lee

 [Editor's note: The following article on the nature of fascism
 today is based on a section of a recent report to the National
 Committee of the League of Revolutionaries for a New America. The
 report was adopted by the committee in Chicago in April.]


 Fascism today is the political expression of the concentration of
 wealth and the spread of poverty based on [the replacement of
 labor by] electronics. It is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie
 unrestricted by trappings of bourgeois democracy. There are
 objective and subjective sides to the development of fascism.


 The objective side

 The unprecedented concentration of wealth and power in the hands
 of a few "megacorporations" and billionaires is the objective
 foundation for the drive toward fascism and a fascist state.
 Under the conditions of widespread ownership of property,
 bourgeois democracy provides the best state form for capitalism
 to flourish and grow. Under today's conditions, the capitalists
 cannot allow decisions about their wealth and property to be
 placed in the hands of a growing class of people with no tie to
 private property or the capitalist system.

 A new kind of state and society is needed that will allow the
 capitalists to expand markets and maximize profits under the
 conditions of globalization. An expanded apparatus of repression
 and particularly the increasing role of the military combine with
 the growing power of the corporations to lay the objective basis
 for fascism.

 The dilemma that the U.S. faces in the world today forms part of
 the objective basis for the drive toward fascism. We can see that
 the developing world economy and the beginnings of the formation
 of a world bourgeoisie are coming into conflict with and
 undermining the dominance of the U.S. in the world. Any solution
 the U.S. pursues will force it to crack down at home and
 aggressively impose its will on the world stage.

 There is no doubt that the U.S. dominates world finance capital,
 that it controls the array of multinational organizations pushing
 "free trade" in all corners of the globe, and that it has the
 military and economic power to impose an economic Pax Americana
 over the rest of the world. For the U.S. government, implementing
 national policy means economic globalization under the hegemony
 of the U.S.

 At the same time, globalization is undermining that hegemony.
 While this challenge to U.S. dominance is in its beginning stages
 and the U.S. is still obviously and extremely powerful, a
 profound shift is taking place, if still underground, in the
 world's power relations. One of the many, if more significant
 signposts in this process is the introduction of the Euro and the
 economic unification of Europe. Politically, the U.S. cannot
 simply impose its will as it could in the past, and is
 increasingly driven to war to do so.

 Objectively, the U.S. has no way out. Neither militarization and
 war, nor freer markets and continued expansion of neo-liberal
 policies, nor protectionism and economic  nationalism can solve
 the dilemma posed by globalization. Every path leads to greater
 polarization, massive discontent and alienation, and the further
 development of the proletariat.

 Of course, the U.S. will not simply give up and get out of the
 game. Simply because the objective basis is set for the global
 economy and a world bourgeoisie does not mean that the subjective
 forces will stop fighting for their interests or what they
 perceive their interests to be. It will mean, however, that
 fascism will grow out of the process to implement whatever
 solution or combination of solutions the U.S. pursues to protect
 and maintain its position in the world.


 The subjective side

 The objective conditions set the parameters, but it's people who
 make history. To accomplish what they need, the capitalists and
 the forces they command must rely on the subjective side of the
 process. The capitalists are not trying to win the American
 people to fascism per se. Rather, they are cultivating a morality
 and an ideology among the American people that will tolerate the
 form of rule the capitalists need.

 What is the subjective side of the motion toward fascism today?
 There are the hard-core, openly fascist elements such 

Re: [CTRL] DOJ wants to bug PCs

1999-08-21 Thread K

 -Caveat Lector-

On 21 Aug 99, at 13:31, Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Ba wrote:



 Feds seek to arm crime fighters with new powers to break into private
 premises and disable PC security.




If this goes through, those of us who want to continue to have
some modicum of privacy will have to buy laptops and carry them
with us.




Kathleen


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for leaving you alone." - Thomas Rudmose-Brown

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[CTRL] Feds raid Bank of New York in money laundering probe

1999-08-21 Thread Steve Wingate

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Feds raid Bank of New York in money laundering probe

Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Associated Press

NEW YORK (August 21, 1999 6:46 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -
 Federal investigators reportedly raided the Wall Street office of the Bank
of New York in a probe of a major international money-laundering scheme
that authorities say involves the Russian mob.

During Friday's raid, investigators seized the files of Natasha Gurfinkel
Kagalovsky, a senior vice president who supervised the bank's East
European division, a source close to the bank told The New York Times in
Saturday's editions.

She and a bank vice president in London, Lucy Edwards, were suspended
on Wednesday. Both women are married to Russian businessmen.

British authorities also searched Edwards' home and office. Her husband,
Peter Berlin, had authority over some accounts at the bank. Neither she nor
her husband has been accused of any wrongdoing.

However, investigators told the Times that the couple may be involved in
one of the largest money-laundering operations ever conducted in the
United States.

As much as $10 billion allegedly was laundered through the bank in what
investigators say is an operation run by Russian organized crime, the
Times reported.

Some $4.2 billion passed through a single account in more than 10,000
transactions between October and March, the newspaper said, citing
unidentified investigators.

The Bank of New York Co. is the nation's 15th largest.

In a statement, the bank said it "has been cooperating with the office of the
U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York in the confidential
investigation of the use of bank facilities to transfer funds from Russia to
other countries."

No funds were lost and there were no allegations of wrongdoing by the
bank, according to the statement. The bank declined to provide further
details.


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Re: [CTRL] Going to war to save 2nd Amendment

1999-08-21 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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I love it. I love it . I love it.

I just love to see these guys spin their wheels. I would gladly
contribute to this organization because they will guaranty the eventual
repeal of the second amendment, an amendment long overdue for repeal.

Buy the way, gun worshipers, the repeal of the second amendment isn't
even necessary to take away your toys. Every state has the authority to
ban guns. You won't even need to deal with the Supreme Court.

If this becomes a hot political issue, it will serve the politicians
in an election year. That's all.

Guns can and most likely will be banned state by state. Most likely
several states will choose to keep guns and liberalize gun laws. This
seems fair. After a while we will all see whose rhetoric is real. As
a devout Darwinist, I believe that the gun owning states will dramatically
improve the human gene pool by thinning out the gun owning population. On
the other hand, we may wind up with an all criminal population in the gun
restricted areas after which they will have to turn their attention to the
surviving gun owners in neighboring states.

It's a win, win situation.

Joshua2

=
Bill Richer wrote:

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 From: Rich Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear armed Americans,

Advertising Creative Director, Jim Houck, working with the Lawyers
Second Amendment Society (LSAS, www.rightguide.com/Links/lsas.htm),
has formed a non-profit corporation for the sole purpose of giving all
American firearms owners, big and small, a way to strike back and
strike back hard against the Rights Killers.
After repeated attempts to work with NRA and GOA, Mr. Houck made the

decision, along with the LSAS, to form an elite commando-style
organization in order to bypass bureaucracy and time-consuming
political red tape and get into the fight.  The NRA and GOA have a
role in this fight and are doing all they can and are to be credited
with such.  But there is an overwhelming need for an operational group
which can strike fast, strike hard and strike without fear of
political reprisal.  This is such a group.
Every dollar received will go into extremely aggressive advertising,

TV, print, radio, outdoor and guerilla, with a single purpose, to
destroy those who are tampering with 2nd Amendment freedom.  This
campaign will not be apologetic, it will not play fair, it will hit
below the belt whenever the opportunity presents itself, it will not
take prisoners.  In short, it will be very aggressive and very
effective.
There are some people out there who would like to get into the
 fight,
but for career reasons or political reasons cannot.  Here is your
chance.  There are many who would like to get into the fight, but have
no way of doing so.  Now you can take a swing directly at the teeth of
people like Chuck Schumer, impeached-President Bill Clinton, Sarah
Brady, you name it.
The campaign will be created and managed by Creative Director, Jim
Houck, a career advertising professional who has done work for
bluechip clients like Toyota, DIESEL Jeans, Mitusibishi, Procter 
Gamble, Sony, The Miami Heat Professional Basketball Team and Sunglass
Hut International, to name a few.
The company has been created by and will be managed by attorney Dan
Schultz of the LSAS.
Creative campaigns are in progress and will be operational as soon
 as
a budget has been amassed and media buys can be made.
Please make copies and forward to all concerned parties.
Send your checks (NO CASH, WE'RE PLAYING BY THE BOOK AND EXPECT
AUDITS AND CLAIMS OF THEFT FROM THE RIGHTS KILLERS) immediately to:

LAWYERS SECOND AMENDMENT SOCIETY
PMB  447
2118 WILSHIRE BLVD.
SANTA MONICA, CA 90403

In the memo section of your check write 'Operation We the People'.

As you may have noticed, we have purposely located in the heart of
enemy territory.
Already I have been asked what my response will be to those who
question my advertising on the grounds of political correctness.
Considering that 'political correctness2' is a ten dollar way of saying
'censorship', my official response is, screw'em.

Going to war,

Jim Houck
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Re: [CTRL] all we have left is the Vote ...

1999-08-21 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Bard wrote:

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 Let Freedom ring ... again in 11/2000.

 if we don't use it folks, then we deserve our
 continued enslavement.

 if you know of another "way out",
 please advise forthwith.

 it's you people who aren't voting or voting
 for demo/repub thugs that's enslaving us all.

 the status quo is sucking us dry!!!
 compare the individual tax rates folks; 1950/90

 lol

 Bard

Every time you vote...
You cut your own throat.
( Unless you're rich.)

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[CTRL] The Secret Quest for Accommodation (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB

1999-08-21 Thread Linda Minor

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http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB18/index.html

KENNEDY AND CASTRO:
THE SECRET QUEST FOR ACCOMMODATION


An Electronic Briefing Book

 by Peter Kornbluh






Introduction

  In 1963, the Kennedy administration and the government of Fidel Castro
began a series of communications designed to lead to a possible
rapprochement. The U.S. objective was to move Castro out of the Soviet orbit
using what NSC memoranda described as "the sweet approach;" in the aftermath
of the Cuban Missile Crisis, Castro appeared more interested in a modus
vivendi with Washington. In secret talks with the first U.S. intermediary,
James Donovan, in the spring of 1963, Castro inquired about how, given the
acrimonious conflict between the two nations, the U.S. and Cuba would
actually initiate moving toward a new era of better relations. As Donovan
told his CIA debriefers: "So I said to him, do you know how porcupines make
love? and he said no. And I said, well, the answer is 'very carefully.' And
that is how you and the United States would have to get into this."


The documents posted here a among those used in Peter Kornbluh's new
article, "Kennedy and Castro: the Secret Quest for Accommodation," appearing
in the new issue of Cigar Aficionado. A number of them were originally found
in a file named "Cuban Contacts," declassified through a mandatory
declassification review request to the John F. Kennedy Library. Using the
documents, Kornbluh has been able to provide the fullest historical account
to date of how Washington and Havana cautiously and carefully moved toward a
dialogue on better relations. Thirty-seven years later, with current U.S.
policy toward Cuba beginning to take small but significant steps toward
change, this history carries an immediate relevance for U.S.-Cuban ties.



Documents


 Document 1:  NSC, "Mr. Donovan's Trip to Cuba," March 4, 1963: McGeorge
Bundy's deputy, Gordon Chase, wrote this memo after a conversation with
Bundy on President Kennedy's thoughts about negotiations with Castro.
Kennedy is reacting to recommendations by State Department official Robert
Hurwitch on U.S. "non-negotiable demands" on Cuba. Kennedy takes the
position that the "breaking of Sino/Soviet ties" should not be a
"non-negotiable point." He has told his NSC advisor that "We should start
thinking along more flexible lines."

Document 2:  NSC, "The Cuban Problem," April 21, 1963: This Options Paper,
drafted by Bundy, presents a number of contingency plans for action against
Cuba. It also lists the option of moving "in the direction of gradual
development of some form of accommodation with Castro."

Document 3: CIA, "Interview of U.S. Newswoman with Fidel Castro Indicating
Possible Interest in Rapprochement with the United States," May 1, 1963:
After her lengthy interview with Fidel Castro, Lisa Howard was debriefed by
the CIA when she returned to the U.S. She emphasized his interest in better
relations with Washington, and offered to play the role of diplomatic
intermediary between the two countries. The notation "PSAW" in the top
right-hand corner of the document signifies that the memorandum was read by
President Kennedy.

Document 4: CIA, "Reported Desire of the Cuban Government for Rapprochement
with the United States," June 5, 1963: In this memorandum, the CIA
transmitted more than a half dozen intelligence reports indicating that
Castro was interested mending the U.S.-Cuban conflict and establishing
normal ties.

Document 5: CIA, Notes on Special Group Meeting on Cuba, June 6, 1963. These
CIA notes briefly record a high level discussion of the merits of
communicating with Castro.

Document 6: UN, Memorandum on Cuba, September 18, 1963: William Attwood,
deputy U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, wrote this memo for Adlai
Stevenson and other U.S. officials, requesting authorization to make secret
contact with Cuba's UN Ambassador Carlos Lechuga. The White House granted
permission, and the first discussion took place at the New York apartment of
ABC News Anchorwoman, Lisa Howard.

Document 7: NSC, "Some Arguments Against Accommodation--A Rebuttal,"
November 12, 1963: NSC official Gordon Chase drafted this memorandum in
order to present arguments in favor of improved relations. The memo was
drafted as the first major meeting between high level Cuban and U.S.
officials to discuss better relations was being organized; that meeting was
aborted by the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Document 8: White House, Talks with Cuba, November 19, 1963: Gordon Chase
reported in this memo on the discussions between Attwood and Castro's aide
de camp, Dr. Rene Vallejo, on a meeting in Cuba or New York.

Document 9: CIA, Alleged Contacts Between Castro and American Government,
March 4, 1964: drawing on sources inside Castro's government, the CIA
reported the Cuban reaction to the secret talks with the Kennedy
administration.

Document 10: 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #3

1999-08-21 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990821c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No fretful Malthusians reproduced during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# State comic books lampoon Chinese meditation sect.  The government
  describes its campaign against the group as a "political struggle" and
  accuses Falun Gong founder Li of plotting against the Communist Party.
  http://www.nando.net/noframes/story/0,2107,84138-132934-928600-0,00.html

: Have you plotted against the Communist Party lately? Has the Communist
Party plotted against you? Have either of you plotted against anyone else?
Are your plots comical? Does your belief system communicate with comix??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# China 'arrests church leaders' - Worship is allowed but not behind closed
  doors. (BBC) 8 Christian leaders have been arrested in the central Chinese
  province of Henan for holding an illegal gathering. Cops raided a house in
  the city of Wugang and took away eight Protestant "home church" leaders.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_426000/426840.stm

@ Links: Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/
@ Amnesty International China: http://www.amnesty-usa.org/asa/china/

: Should/have/will the leaders of your belief system be busted? Should/have/
will your belief system take capture the leaders of other belief systems? Do
you wage war on other belief systems? Is yours a dominant heresy? Of what??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# AFT finds plot to bomb utilities during Y2K scare. Albuquerque (AT) US and
  Canadian authorities are probing a New Mexico connection in a strange plot
  to cash in on the Y2K scare by blowing up utility systems. The U.S. Bureau
  of Alcohol, Tobacco  Firearms has filed charges on a 50-year-old Canuck
  man who solicited an American citizen to bomb and disrupt various energy
  systems in the US and Canada. http://abqtrib.com/news/082099_bomber.shtml

: What utility systems would you most like to bomb? How can you profit? Do
the voices in your head provoke Armageddon? Do CIA mind-control rays direct
your bombings? Why would the CIA want to promote Y2K scares? Or why not???
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Communist shrine defies demolition. (BBC) An attempt by the Bulgarian
  authorities to demolish the most prominent symbol of the country's
  communist past has ended in failure. Can't keep a good icon down:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_427000/427068.stm
@ Georgi Dimitrov: http://www.bulgaria.com/history/rulers/dimitrov.html

: Does your belief system build sturdy shrines? Should your sacred sites be
demolished? Can they be? Are you protected by higher powers, aliens, robots?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ 10,000 Mummies Found In Egypt- Many Covered In Gold. "They lay as though
  expecting us. Lined up in rows, heads toward the aisle and faces up, they
  waited for the laborers to lift the protective plastic sheets that a few
  months ago they did not need. Now they stretched impassively on... sand-
  stone shelves as we stomped discourteously into their forever- disrupted
  home. Yet they bore it gracefully. Their crumbling gilded face masks (and
  sometimes, just crumbling faces) betrayed no embarrassment as we photogra-
  phed them with flash cameras, and talked about them like objects in lang-
  uages that did not even exist during their former lives. And then we left,
  as clumsily as we came. http://www.projectduat.com/bahareya-mummies/

@ Also: David Icke's Bestseller: 'The Biggest Secret' - Excerpt:
  http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/icke.htm
@ Egyptologist Responds To David Icke's August 11 Giza Update:
  http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/response.htm

: Have you mummified many humans, animals, aliens, robots, deities, demons?
Do you enjoy mummification? Is it a job, a calling, a hobby, a necessity??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The Single Factor Fallacy. Did Bill Clinton's childhood trauma cause the
  Lewinsky affair? A brain scientist explains why that's the wrong question
  to ask. http://www.feedmag.com/essay/es244_master.html?alert

: Were you traumatized in your youth? Were you abducted by aliens? Do mind-
controllers direct y'r actions? Does y'r implant misfire? What's y'r excuse?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ How Stuff Works: http://www.howstuffworks.com/
@ Nasa Discovery Program: http://discovery.nasa.gov/
@ Museum of Unnatural History: http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/unmuseum.htm
@ The Human Brain: A Mystery to Itself: http://library.advanced.org/26463/
@ Krakatoa blows: http://www.irfamedia.com/lampung/krakatau.htm
@ America's Jazz Heritage: http://www.si.edu/ajazzh/

@ Pink Alien:  http://www.colinstevenson.free-online.co.uk/warning.htm
$ The Greatest Story Never Told * Opening the Seven Seals of Revelations *
  2 Books that implant new religion memes: 

[CTRL] Fw: George and Corruption

1999-08-21 Thread Linda Minor

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-Original Message-
From: Sam Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 7:12 PM
Subject: George and Corruption


Corruption in Texas Government; State $ to Big Contributors

Bush's administration has been marked by the large amounts of state
controlled money flowing to men who have either contributed large amounts
to
Bush's campaign, or who have made Junior personally rich through sweet
insider business deals, or both.
For example, the University of Texas' Investment Management Company
(UTIMCO)
invests $1.7 billion of state money. Bush's cronies dominate this board,
and
in return investment funds controlled by these very cronies or their
friends
have received $457 million of that investment pool. There may even be more,
but this obscure group -- created under Bush -- cloaks its operations in a
thick veil of secrecy.

UTIMCO's chairman, Tom Hicks, now owns the Texas Rangers; his purchase of
the team made Governor Bush a very rich man. Furthermore, Hicks and his
brother gave $146,000 to the Bush campaign. In return, $252 million of the
invested money went to funds run by Hicks' business associates or friends,
according to the Houston Chronicle. Hicks even insisted that UTIMCO
increase
by $10 million an investment with a fund that he had an indirect financial
interest in, but UTIMCO staff halted funding after they discovered the
conflict.

In another example, Larry Paul Manley, Bush's director of the Department of
Housing until he resigned in January 1999, is under police investigation
for
steering federal tax credits to cronies. Texas' top auditor discovered in
1997 that 60% of department contracts went to Manley's former colleagues at
local savings and loans, but refused to make the findings public until long
after the criminal probes began.

Another key player in the Bush world is Richard Rainwater, the billionaire
Texas investor who made Bush Jr.'s original involvement in the Texas
Rangers
deal possible. That's the deal that made Jr. rich, of course. Bush had
several other personal investments in Rainwater controlled companies. But
Rainwater has received much from Bush and the state of Texas' treasury,
too.


For example, the state teacher retirement fund sold three office buildings
to Rainwater's real estate company at bargain prices, and without bids in 2
of the cases. The fund invested $90 million in the Frost Bank Plaza in
Austin, and sold it to Rainwater's Crescent Real Estate for $35 million.
Bush signed a law that will give his former baseball team co-owners --
including Rainwater -- a $10 million bonus payment when a new Dallas arena
is built. Bush also proposed a cap on business real estate taxes that would
have saved Rainwater millions on his various properties (but it lost in the
legislature). And UTIMCO, described above, has invested $20 million in
Rainwater companies.

Bush may or may not have violated state ethics laws with all of this big
money backscratching, but there is no doubt that he and these businessman
are operating corruptly -- funneling large amounts of state money to the
businessmen's companies, and large amounts of their personal and business
money into George Bush Jr.'s pocket and political campaigns.

Sources


Avoided the Vietnam War
Just like Dan Quayle and Steve Forbes, two other politically-connected rich
kids, Bush Junior joined his home state's National Guard. It's not clear
how
he got past the waiting list, but his dad was a U.S. Congressman at the
time, and his grandfather was a famous U.S. Senator.

Instead of going to Vietnam, he flew cool jet planes around Texas,
valiantly
defending us against the Mexican air force. His political connections got
him a sweet deal -- they not only got him into the National Guard, and got
him the last (rare) training slot for pilots despite the fact that he
scored
the lowest allowable score - 25/100 - on a pilot's aptitude test, but he
was
assigned to fly an older plane (the F102) which was being phased out at the
time, which meant that he had no chance at all of going to Vietnam.

On this issue, too, Bush has weaseled in a manner eerily reminiscent of
Bill
Clinton. He claims that he joined the guard to fly planes, just like his
dad. But George Bush, Senior, a genuine war hero, joined the Navy, not the
National Guard. Both the Navy and Air Force had plenty of openings when
Bush
Jr. joined, but he chose the stateside Guard. Furthermore, his enlistment
form had a check box to indicate whether you volunteered to go the Vietnam
or not. His was checked NO, but now he claims that the clerks there often
filled that part out and checked NO for you. Once he joined, Bush was
promoted to First Lieutenant in just 4 months, a very short time, and was
given several months off to work on a political campaign. He was also
released 6 months early to work on another campaign.


Insider Business Deals
Bush Jr. has made a lot of money off of three business deals. In each one,
his 

[CTRL] Villiage Voice: Truthless on TWA800 (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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THE VILLAGE VOICE
August 4-10, 1999
Letters,  Truthless

  I read Robert Davey's "The FBI and Flight 800"
  [July 20] with a great deal of interest. Three
  difficult years have passed since the crash.
  During this time, my family has grieved over
  the death of our beautiful 16-year-old daughter.

  Since the first week after the crash, I have
  been convinced that the explosion was caused
  by a missile, probably friendly fire. All that
  I have observed since that time has strengthened
  this conviction.

  Why would Clinton, in an executive order, remove
  whistleblower protection from the Navy Seal units
  involved in the recovery? Why would the Navy
  insist that it had no assets in the area carrying
  arms that could have downed a plane, and then
  subsequently admit that it had three submarines
  on maneuvers nearby?

  Why would the NTSB change its explanation of the
  12-second line from the recovered black box? The
  data in that line may indicate that an external
  explosion occurred. The NTSB gave multiple
  versions of why it should not be included.

  Why was a written statement from the most experienced
  eyewitness never taken by the FBI? Why were he and
  I both tailed when I met with him at a restaurant
  on Long Island? He was a pilot with combat experience
  who was in the air in a helicopter about 10 miles
  away at the time, who saw the explosion, and was
  the first to arrive at the crash site. He told me
  that he saw a vapor trail with a red streak in the
  middle, which is characteristic of a missile.

  All I have are questions. All I want is the truth.

  Donald Nibert
  Montoursville, Pennsylvania

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote onEvolution

1999-08-21 Thread Bill

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 The geological near-miracle of fossilization is a very
rare occurence in itself, it hardly ever happens, and it is
just a measure of the true age of the Earth, that has become
so littered with fossils over the eons that we cannot even
sort them out.
 After death a vast percentage, a majority percentage,
of the bio-material left by Life simply turns to humous.
Thats the usual rotting process.  There are campfires of man
here in Florida that are only 8-10 thousand years old but
posess NO bio effluvia whatsoever, except charcoal to show
there was a fire, and of course the stone tools and weapons
that are relatively indelible.  Most skeletons and all flesh
go back to the dirt soup.  Ah tis a thin and grimy layer we
inhabitALL fossils are extremely rare.
 Durable fossilization occurs by replacement of organic
cell structures with silica usually. Silica in solution,
enough to precipitate crystallization, is a backwater
happenstance. I'm saying the conditions by which fossils
form are always very special.  I am familiar with The Tampa
Formation, a fossil reef from 20 (or so) million years
ago...a pup.  Still, the agate geodes are awesome and when
you see the God that lives throughout the whole universe,
THE WHOLE UNIVERSE, where things like that happen as
BYPRODUCTS, it is a humbling thing.  Way better than the
tripe thats been pedaled for our time here so far.  People
that can't feel that have been robbed of their most precious
asset, and will be back here quick, believe me, because they
are on a long unlit journey to their nirvana, and have some
ways to go.  Light Does Happen though.  Good Luck.
 Of course the fossil record is going to seem incomplete
to beings that cannot get their noses out of their belly
buttons long enough to realize their lifespans are mere
micromicromicroseconds against the backdrop of true
infinity.  Be The Earth.  It Is You.
 Darwins strength is that he unified something, a feat
that even Einstein couldn't duplicate in physics, and of
course that unification of Charles Darwins has had far
reaching effects here at humanity.
 Fungus spores migrate out of the atmosphere and are
blown off by the solar winds.  Their coverings are the
hardest known biological material in this world.  It is
supposed they can even withstand the rigors of space.  They
are network travelers.
 With that basic code the dirt grows from mushrooms to
this in a half billion years or so...pretty quick.  And its
EVERYWHERE.  It IS Alive.  And it Builds.
 Light reacts photochemically with matter.  There is a
vast and hardly understood order inherent in this.
 Many fossils are totally, totally, inaccessible.
 Most biomaterial Did Not Fossilize.
 A lot that did fossilize fell prey to erosion. Oh Well.
Bill Gallagher


Bob Stokes wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 99-08-20 02:03:34 EDT, Keachie writes:

  These critters have much more in common in their DNA than do say any of
 them and horses.

 You're walking on the beach. You see something glittering in the sand. You
 dig carefully and discover a shiny, solid gold pocket watch. You snap open
 the lid to reveal a beautifully crafted face, with gold hands ticking across
 black roman numeral lettering. What can you assume about the watch? Do you
 think that the sand and other minerals swirled together over millions of
 years, and finally, completely by chance, "evolved" into a watch? Or do you
 assume that someone crafted the watch from metals and glass, and "created" it
 according to an intelligent design? Weighing the probabilities in your mind,
 you come to the logical conclusion that an intelligent being crafted it,
 organizing it from the elements.

 The Fossil Horse Series

 One of the first "proofs" of evolution readily cited is the so called fossil
 horse series. It is a progression of transitional species which led up to the
 modern day horse. However, as evidence, it is merely a product of
 evolutionary theory put forth to prove evolutionary theory. It is nothing
 more than a futile exercise in circular reasoning. This conclusion arises
 from the numerous crucial flaws in it. First and foremost is the fact that a
 complete series of fossils in the correct evolutionary order does not exist
 anywhere in the world.1 Further, instead of the single series depicted in the
 chart in textbooks, more than 20 different genealogical trees have been
 invented, in order to desperately stretch the theory over conflicting
 evidence.2 The "evidence" has been garnered spanning geologically isolated
 regions. The series starts in North America, jumps suddenly to Europe, and
 then back to America.1 The sequence in the series which presents transitional
 forms between small, many-toed forms and large, one-toed forms, has
 absolutely no fossil record evidence.3 The earliest member of the horse
 evolution series, Eohippus, has completely no connection, by any sort of
 link, to its presumed ancestors, the 

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1999-08-21 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: The Conspiracy Was Strong
   Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:03:50 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Watch Unto Prayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: The WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto Prayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: August 20, 1999
   THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG

   by

   Barbara Aho

   And the conspiracy was strong; for the
   people increased continually with Absalom.
   II Sam15:12a

"Worrying Connections" was the subject of an article written by Andrew
Gould to expose the improper connections between certain Hebrew Roots
and Revival ministries. Mr. Gould's article and other anti-HRM material
were removed some time ago from the websites of various Discernment
ministries subsequent to a threat of litigation from Messengers of
Messiah Ministries. Watch Unto Prayer was also named in this threat;
however it was never our intention to issue a retraction nor to withdraw
our material from the Internet, as demanded by Peter Michas.

That these Discernment ministries would so easily capitulate and then
berate our attempt to expose this major heretical cult is unfortunate,
but not altogether surprising. As I have interacted with these
ministries, I have pondered many "worrying connections" within their own
ranks. Having confronted those whom I knew personally, but to no avail,
I believe that the Christians who follow them have a right to the
following information.

   "And we beseech you brethren, to know them
which labour among you..." (I Th. 5:12)

   THE DISCERNMENT CONFERENCE

In June of 1997, I attended a Discernment Conference in East Lansing,
Michigan, which was organized by Jewel van der Merwe of Discernment
Ministries and Sarah Leslie of the Christian Conscience. The speakers at
this conference included Dean Gotcher, Nancy Flint, Russ Bellant, Berit
Kjos, Cynthia Weatherly, Sarah Leslie and Jewel van der Merwe. Ed
Tarkowski had been scheduled as a speaker but was unable to attend. Gary
Kah, author of "En Route to Global Occupation" and other books on the
New World Order, gave an informal talk after the conference.

Upon my return from East Lansing, I wrote and circulated a report titled
"The Unitarian Creed." Being at a loss to explain why this experience
occurred at a Discernment Conference, I simply described my encounter
with a Unitarian minister who introduced himself and wished to persuade
me to the Unitarian doctrines that the Holy Spirit is an emanation
rather than a person and that Jesus was a human son of God in the same
way believers are sons of God.

Sir Anthony F. Buzzard also explained that he had left the formerly
Unitarian Worldwide Church of God after that denomination embraced
orthodox doctrine in 1994 and affiliated with the Church of God General
Conference which maintains the Unitarian doctrine. The CGGC headquarters
and college, Atlanta Bible College, where Sir Anthony is on staff, are
located in Morrow, GA, a suburb of Atlanta.

Sir Anthony had given me his card and contacted me via e-mail soon after
the conference, wishing to discuss further reasons why the New Testament
gives no clear statement of Jesus' divinity or of the person of the Holy
Spirit. When I looked up the web page of Anthony Buzzard's Restoration
Fellowship, I was astonished to discover that this British gentleman had
been nominated in 1996 for the Templeton Prize. This $1,000,000 "Prize
for Progress in Religion" is given annually by New Age financier John
Templeton at the World Parliament of Religions, which has included among
the distinguished recipients Billy Graham, Bill Bright, Chuck Colson,
Mother Teresa, Cardinal Suenens and various Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim
leaders. This honor is advertised in Anthony Buzzard's Profile.

I might have reasoned that Sir Anthony Buzzard was simply using the
Discernment Ministries as a Christian cover for his globalist agenda,
however this conference was "By Invitation Only" and no one could have
been present without the approval of the organizers. I therefore spoke
to Sarah Leslie thinking that there must have been some mistake in the
process of selecting conferees. She replied that Jewel van der Merwe had
invited him. When I expressed my alarm to Jewel that someone with
Anthony's credentials had been invited to a Discernment Conference, she
thanked me for being nice to him and explained that he is "confused."
Still disturbed about this experience one year later, I wrote to Sarah
via e-mail and received the following reply:

 From: Lynn D. Leslie
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 11:38 AM
 To: Timothy Aho
 Subject: Re: More Thoughts...

 I do not know Anthony Buzzard other than having been
 introduced to him via Jewel. At that time I firmly cautioned
 her that this man was an apostate and to 

[CTRL] [Fwd: The Conspiracy Was Strong] part 2

1999-08-21 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: The Conspiracy Was Strong
   Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:03:50 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Watch Unto Prayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: The WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto Prayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: August 20, 1999
THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG Part 2

   by

   Barbara Aho

   And the conspiracy was strong; for the
   people increased continually with Absalom.
   II Sam15:12a

Patrick Blackett

Professor Patrick Blackett, an ex-naval officer and nuclear physicist,
had received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1948. In 1932, Blackett identified
the electron with a positive charge, a discovery which built upon the
former breakthroughs in physics, splitting of the atom and discovery of
the neutron. These three discoveries laid the foundation for the
development of nuclear weapons. In 1939, Blackett initiated the
technique of Operational Research, which was discussed at length in
Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope as Blackett's application of a
British philosophical doctrine called "rationalization" to the
unpleasant realities of war. The concept of "rationalization" had
appeared at the end of the 19th Century, at the same time the
Rhodes-Milner secret eugenics society was formed.

 As in so many other innovations, the introduction of
 rationalization into war was begun by the British and then
 taken over on an enormous scale, by the Americans. Its origin
 is usually attributed to the efforts of Professor P. M. S.
 Blackett (Nobel Prize 1948) to apply radar to antiaircraft
 guns. From there Blackett took the technique into
 antisubmarine defense whence it spread, under the name
 'Operational Research' into many aspects of the War effort. In
 its original form, the Anti-Aircraft Command Research Group,
 known as "Blackett's Circus,"...was a mixed-team approach to
 operational problems, emphasizing an objective, analytical,
 and quantitative method. As Blackett wrote in 1941, "The
 scientist can encourage numerical thinking on operational
 matters, and so can help to avoid running the war on gusts of
 emotion.". . .

 Rationalization of behavior, as represented in Operations
 Research, and the application of science to new weapons, as
 practiced by the English-speaking countries, were in sharp
 contrast with the methods of waging war used by the Tripartite
 aggressors. Hitler fought the war by basing his hopes on
 inspiration (his own) and will power (usually, refusal to
 retreat an inch); Mussolini tried to fight his war on rhetoric
 and slogans; the Japanese tried to gain victory by
 self-sacrifice and willingness to die. All three irrational
 methods were obsolete as compared with the Anglo-American
 method of rationalization and science.

 First news of the success of Operations Research in Britain
 was brought to the United States by President Conant in 1940
 and was formally introduced by Vannevar Bush [Freemason, BA],
 as chairman of the New Weapons Committee of the Joint Chiefs
 of Staff, in 1942." (pp. 838, 842)

  * * *

To say that Sir Anthony Wass Buzzard had connections in high places
would be an enormous understatement. Sir Anthony W. Buzzard was also a
knight in Her Majesty, the Queen of England's empire. This distinction
is also indicated by the title of "Sir" which precedes Anthony F.
Buzzard, whose honors additionally include nomination for the Templeton
Prize for Progress in Religion in 1996. Sir John Marks Templeton, the
founder of the Prize, won a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford University and
was also knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1987 for his philanthropic
efforts, which included his endowment of Templeton College, Oxford. On
the staff of the Templeton Foundation are a high percentage of Oxford
University graduates, including Executive Director and Senior Vice
President Dr. Charles L. Harper, Jr.

   THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD

Due to his involvement with the Discernment Ministries, which purport to
expose the New World Order, Sir Anthony F. Buzzard seemed to warrant
further investigation. A logical place to begin was the Worldwide Church
of God in which he formerly held membership and employment for some
time. The Worldwide Church of God was founded by Herbert W. Armstrong in
1934 as "The World Tomorrow" radio program with a magazine called The
Plain Truth. The WCG was led by Herbert Armstrong and his son, Garner
Ted Armstrong, prior to its transformation into an Evangelical
denomination after highly publicized exposure of criminal and immoral
activities.

Sir Anthony had informed me that he separated from the WCG when the
denomination embraced orthodox doctrine and 

Re: [CTRL] A CONSOLIDATION OF SRA AND FALSE MEMORY DATA - part 1

1999-08-21 Thread Smart News

 -Caveat Lector-

excerpts from http://www.iccom.com/usrwww/jlquan/consldra.doc

A CONSOLIDATION OF SRA
AND FALSE MEMORY DATA

JAMES QUAN  November 1996
Portland, Oregon

A recent poll showed that 9% of Americans, a sizable minority, aren't even
sure the Holocaust ever happened and that 2% feel certain it did not occur
(Kagay, 1994).  In this light, we can accept that a much larger percentage of
people won't believe SRA occurs, regardless of evidence.

...one network does exist to maintain the estimated $3 billion dollar per
year child porn market in the U.S. alone (Raschke, 1990).  It is therefore of
considerable importance to examine the correlation between the consistent
claims of photography and consistent claims of ritual abuse and the
significant overlap in accounts.  The fact that photography is one of the
most common elements cited in SRA accounts, aside from corroboration is
sufficient cause to delay a broad dismissal of cult networking.

A larger system of cults also seems likely from evidence described in the
survey by Young, et al (1990).  Patient photographs of alleged cult members
were shown to other patients from a similar geographic region.  Four patients
independently identified, by name and cult roles, the individuals in the
photographs.  Neither group of patients were in contact with the other during
their treatment when these independent identifications were made.   Although
not the central theme of his paper, Summit (1994) describes similar
independent corroboration from children for a larger cult network in the Los
Angeles area (described later).

it is more than sufficient for 93% of the professionals who have personal
experience with those making such disclosures to conclude ritual abuse exists.

Even though all of this digging was outside of the building, with no attempt
to cut through the slab floor of the preschool itself, the officials declared
there were no tunnels on the site, hence the tunnels were and still are
commonly cited by skeptics as non-existent.

1)  Tunnels. Nevertheless, five years later (in 1990) McMartin parents hired
an archaeologist, Gary Stickel, Ph.D., to bring some closure to the
persistent, consistent reports of tunnels.  In contrast to the D.A.'s limited
survey, Dr. Stickel and his crew did cut through the concrete slab in several
places and found spaces beneath the building that had been filled in with
dirt after the investigation opened, verified by an unearthed plastic Walt
Disney bag with a copyright mark of 1982.  The tunnel floorplan matched that
of the children's  pre-dig descriptions including the location of tree roots
"that brushed your face", a pipe across the tunnel ceiling ("I liked to stop
and swing on the pipe"), a slight arch underneath the foundation wall between
two classrooms--worn smooth only where the tunnel passed underneath it, the
"secret room" approximately the same dimensions described by the children,
and four large containers (two enameled iron pots, a crockery jar, and a cast
iron cauldron) placed vertically and side by side directly underneath the
foundation arch and halfway up the loose fill dirt, and much more.  This not
only confirms the children's claims of the tunnels, but also lends strong
credence to mischief, for if there had been no wrong-doing in these spaces,
there would have been no need to fill them in near the time of the
investigation.

The best representation of findings would come from a first hand account.
Dr. Roland Summit personally examined the tunnels and later wrote the
article, "The Dark Tunnels of McMartin" (Summit, 1994).

The internal consistency present in current reports of SRA is astounding.
The following table compares these extensive similarities in two surveys
performed by two separate entities--one of child ritual abuse survivors and
the other of adult ritual abuse survivors--samples of each of the two surveys
were separated geographically

Children:  Pamela Hudson, MSW, has over 35 years of experience working in
mental health, both in-patient and out-patient.  She began encountering child
ritual abuse cases in the 1980's.  In 1988, she conducted a telephone survey
of one set of Parents from each of 10 daycare cases and the non-offending
parent of two brothers from a coven case--for a total of 12 children
representing 11 locations--on the East Coast, Texas, and up and down the West
Coast. No parent knew beforehand that she would be calling, and therefore no
one had an opportunity to compare responses before her call (Hudson, 1990).
She spoke only to the parents, not the children.  Please see her book for
more detail on the survey and on each case. (Hudson, 1991). The children
surveyed attended the following day cares:

1. McMartin Preschool, Manhattan Beach, CA
2. West Point Child Development Center, NJ
3. Parent in a Coven, CA
4. Alabama child in day care, CA
5. Babysitter case, Manhattan Beach, CA
6. East Valley YMCA, El Paso, TX
7. Day care center in Campbell, CA
8. Gallup Christian Day 

Re: [CTRL] A CONSOLIDATION OF SRA AND FALSE MEMORY DATA - Part 2

1999-08-21 Thread Smart News

 -Caveat Lector-

excerpts from http://www.iccom.com/usrwww/jlquan/consldra.doc

A CONSOLIDATION OF SRA
AND FALSE MEMORY DATA

JAMES QUAN  November 1996
Portland, Oregon

The most significant evidence for recovered memories consists of:

Linda Meyer Williams, Ph.D. of the Family Violence Research Laboratory at the
University of New Hampshire conducted a follow-up study 17 years later on 129
women hospitalized as children for sexual abuse and found that 38 percent did
not recall the experiences documented in their hospital records 17 years
earlier.  (Williams, 1993).  Dr. Pope contends that these results resemble
other non-disclosure findings from both a similar prior survey conducted by
Femina  colleagues (1990) and in Federal Government investigations in the
60's and 70's, in which people elect not to tell about various life events of
which they were in fact conscious.  Thus he holds that all 38 percent of
these women did know of their abuse, but elected not to disclose this
incident which had prompted a hospital admission 17 years earlier.

However, in Williams' experiment, significant time was taken to establish
only the highest rapport with each woman before interviewing, to counter this
very contention, yet it is not clear whether Femina, et al took the same time
and care to develop such a rapport with their sample who did admit their
knowledge of the initially non-disclosed abuse during a second "clarification
interview" when they were confronted with their documented histories.
Further, and discordant with Pope's position, is that out of a subsample of
the 23 women who received the highest credibility rating by the interviewer,
and with documented medical evidence of genital injury, Williams found 52
percent did not report the abuse. It seems that those in the highest
credibility group would have disclosed more often rather than less often if
non-disclosure accounted for all 38 percent.

Finally, and to counter Pope's statement that "a 38 percent non-disclosure
rate for an embarrassing event that had occurred 17 years earlier is
consistent with what one would predict," Dr. Williams points out that of the
women who elected not to tell, 68 percent told the interviewer about other
sexual assaults.  Yet it is not clear how many in Femina's study disclosed
other sexual assaults, as did in Williams' participants.

Judith Herman, M.D. conducted a study of 53 women in group therapy (groups
are often cited as a source of false memories), all of whom recovered amnesic
memories of abuse, found 74% were able to find corroboration from family
members, pornographic photos, or diaries.  (Herman  Schatzow, 1987).
Further, Herman notes that denial signifies little.  Research with known
pedophiles has illustrated that they often exhibit a cognitive distortion;
they often deny the offense until corroboration is presented at which time,
if they admit it, will then often minimize or rationalize their behavior
(Horn, 1993).

n David Calof (1993) answers the key objections of proponents of the False
Memory movement and explains in his article that therapist-induced suggestion
is by far the exception to recovered memory.  1) In his article, Calof tells
the initially unbelievable stories of two of his over 400 clients during his
20 years as a clinician who have recovered memories of sexual abuse and were
able to corroborate them apart from the denying, but eventually confessing
offenders  (Calof, 1993). 2) Calof describes his initial skepticism -- 6
years of disbelieving his first SRA client's memories.  He later corroborated
the case by two others, one an eye-witness and the other a victim of the same
perpetrators 15 years later in the same small town (Calof, 1994).

Perhaps most significant on the topic of false memory is that the very title
"False Memory Syndrome" was coined by the co-founder of the FMS Foundation,
Dr. Ralph Underwager, a psychologist and director of the Institute for
Psychological Therapies in Northfield, MN.  In addition to resigning from his
position in the Foundation for his indifference and/or approval of
"adult-child sexual relations" in an interview printed in the winter 1993
issue of Paidika, a pro-pedophilia Dutch Journal, eight states have
investigated him for his performance as a professional expert witness.

Via his "expertise," he was instrumental in the acquittal of, among others,
an Australian daycare in which approximately 20 children were allegedly
abused.  In this case, he successfully barred the testimonies of the 4 to 8
year old child victims due to their "inability to form an opinion of right
and wrong."  He also disqualified blatant medical evidence from the trial,
which included such injuries as anal tearing.  When he was later interviewed
by the Australian equivalent of 60 Minutes, he denied having made the
statements they quoted him as making.  The interviewer then presented the
court transcripts, at which time Dr. Underwager ended the interview and said
to the interviewer, 

[CTRL] The U.N. Plan for Your Mental Health

1999-08-21 Thread Dave
Title: 



For Educational and Informational purposes only, Not for Commercial 
use.

The UN Plan for Your Mental Healthby Berit Kjos

"We believe that mental health is just as important as physical health 
maybe even more so." Donna Shalala, Department of Health and Human 
Services (DHHS)
"Mental health refers to how a person thinks, feels, and acts when 
faced with life's situations."National Mental Health Services 
Knowledge Exchange Network
"The challenge to humanity is to adopt new ways of thinking, new ways 
of acting, new ways of organizing itself in society in short, new ways of 
living."Our Creative Diversity, UNESCO 



Don't be deceived by nice sounding labels such as Healthy Start, Healthy 
People, Healthy Families, Healthy Communities, and Healthy Cities. These and 
other "local" campaigns for public and mental health follow a global blueprint. 
They all fit into a worldwide system of health management and surveillance led 
by the World Health Organization, a UN special agency that equates faith with 
hate and truth with intolerance., 1 The 
goal is conditioning the masses to willingly conform to new "universal" values, 
environmental guidelines, and a global management system.
Dr. David Satcher, U.S. Surgeon-General and Assistant Secretary for Health, 
gave a progress report at a National Healthy People Consortium in November 1998 
"We have a clear blueprint in place," he announced. "Currently, 47 
states are actively involved in Healthy People 2000 and 'Healthy City and 
Healthy Community' initiatives are being pursued throughout the country. 
Hundreds of national organizations have reviewed the Year 2000 objectives and 
have adopted them as their own."Dr. Satcher then drew the 
connection between Healthy Start,2 Healthy 
People, mental health and the World Health Organization:"Every child 
should be given the opportunity for a healthy start... No priority yet has 
generated as much interest and enthusiasm as this one on mental health..." 
"...our efforts will be focused on maintaining a system of global health 
surveillance..."Healthy People 2010 is the United States' 
contribution to the World Health Organization's call to the nations of the world 
to renew their commitment to health for all" 
3
A Colorado law gives us a glimpse of what we might expect once this system is 
fully in place. It suggests that Christian child-raising could be considered 
"emotional abuse ...or a substantial risk..." and gives the Social Services 
the authority to prosecute Christian parents for child abuse.4
To protect Christian families, conservatives pressed the legislature to add 
an exemption to the proposed bill, it declared that:"Emotional abuse 
shall not be construed to include religious instruction."But this 
exemption was deleted before SB 97-218, titled "Children's Services", became 
effective on July 1, 1997. Now, every Colorado family that trains its children 
to follow God risks breaking the law and facing the fury of an anti-Christian 
Child Protection Service.
How could this be happening in America?


A NEW WAY OF THINKING.

In a 1996 speech at The National Children's Mental Health Initiative, Donna 
Shalala, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), 
said:"From fully immunizing children by age two... to stopping domestic 
violence, we're working to improve the lives of young people from the cradle to 
young adulthood. And a strong part of our vision is the mental health of 
children. We believe that mental health is just as important as physical health 
...maybe even more so..." 5
As head of the DHHS, Shalala helped organize The National Mental Health 
Services Knowledge Exchange Network (KEN). Ponder its definition for mental 
health:"Mental health refers to how a person thinks, feels, and acts when 
faced with life's situations. It is how people look at themselves, their lives, 
and the other people in their lives ...and explore choices." 6
Do you wonder what Dr. Shalala and her network of health planners would 
consider good thinking? Or bad thinking? This definition doesn't tell us. How do 
they want people "to look at themselves" or "explore choices"? The answer is 
clear when you study UNESCO's psycho-social strategies for conforming the minds 
of our children to its anti-Christian world view. But without background 
information, these ambiguous, open-ended phrases hide the true intentions.
However, Dr. Shalala and other self-proclaimed "change agents" do tell us 
that the old ways "a person thinks, feels, and acts" must change. They don't fit 
the new global ideology or the consensus process. According to Professor 
Benjamin Bloom, called the Father of OBE, the new "purpose of 
education and the schools is to change the thoughts, feelings and actions of 
students."7 So it's not surprising 
that UNESCO's Commission on Culture and Development in its report, Our Creative 

[CTRL] Local Agenda 21-The U.N. Plan for Your Community

1999-08-21 Thread Dave
Title: 




Local Agenda 21

The U.N. Plan for Your Community

By Berit Kjos






"...current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the 
affluent middle class - involving high meat intake use of fossil fuels, 
appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not 
sustainable. A shift is necessary. which will require a vast strengthening of 
the multilateral system, including the United Nations..." 1

  Maurice Strong , opening speech at the 1992 UN Conference on 
  Environment and Development





To many well-meaning people Agenda 
21 sounds good. This U.N. document, drafted for the purpose of creating 
"sustainable societies" and saving the earth from environmental catastrophes, 
has been welcomed by nations around the world. Political, cultural, and media 
leaders have embraced its alluring visions of social justice and a healthy 
planet. Relatively few are willing to consider the contrary facts and colossal 
costs.
After all, what could be wrong with preserving resources for the next 
generation? Why not limit consumption and reduce energy use? Why not abolish 
poverty and establish a global welfare system to train parents, monitor 
intolerance, and meet all our needs? Why not save the planet by trading cars for 
bikes, an open market for "self-sustaining communities," and single dwellings 
for dense "human settlements" (located on transit lines) where everyone would 
dialogue, share common ground, and be equal?
The answer is simple. Marxist economics has never worked. Socialism produces 
poverty, not prosperity. Collectivism creates oppression, not freedom. Trusting 
environmental "scientists" who depend on government funding and must produce 
politically useful "information" will lead to economic and social disaster. 
3
Even so, local and national leaders around the world are following the UN 
blueprint for global management and "sustainable communities," and President 
Clinton is leading the way. A letter I received from The President's Council on 
Sustainable Development states that -

  In April 1997, President Clinton asked the council to advise him on: next 
  steps in building a new environmental management system for the 21st 
  century... and policies that foster U.S. leadership on sustainable 
  development internationally. The council was also charged to ensure that 
  social equity issues are fully integrated ... (Emphasis added)
Many of our representatives are backing his plan. In a 1997 letter 
congratulating the Local Agenda 21 Advisory Board in Santa Cruz for completing 
their Action Plan, Congressman Sam Farr wrote,

  The Local Agenda 21 Action Plan not only has local significance, it also 
  will have regional and national impacts. As you know, the President's 
  Council on Sustainable Development is beginning Phase III of its work with 
  an emphasis on sustainable communities.4 (emphasis 
added)
This agenda may already be driving your communityís"development", so be alert 
to the clues. Notice buzzwords such as"visioning," "partners," 
and"stakeholders." Know how to resist the consensus process. Ask questions, but 
donít always trust the answers. Remember, political activists, like 
self-proclaimed education"change agents", have put expediency above integrity. 
As North Carolina school superintendent Jim Causby said at a 1994 international 
model school conference, "We have actually been given a course in how not to 
tell the truth.You've had that course in public relations where you learn to put 
the best spin on things."5
To recognize and resist this unconstitutional shadow government of laws and 
regulations being imposed on our nation without congressional approval, take a 
closer look at its history and nature.
Agenda 21
This global contract binds governments around the world to the UN plan for 
changing the ways we live, eat, learn, and communicate - all under the noble 
banner of saving the earth. Its regulations would severely limit water, 
electricity, and transportation - even deny human access to our most treasured 
wilderness areas. If implemented, it would manage and monitor all lands and 
people. No one would be free from the watchful eye of the new global tracking 
and information system
This agenda for the 21st Century was signed by 179 nations at the UN 
Conference on Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro in 1992. Among other 
things, it called for a Global Biodiversity Assessment of the state of the 
planet. Prepared by the UN Environmental Programme (UNEP), this GBA armed UN 
leaders with the "information" and "science" they needed to validate their 
global management system. Its doomsday predictions were designed to excuse 
radical population reduction, oppressive lifestyle regulations, and a coercive 
return to earth-centered religions as the basis for environmental values and 
self-sustaining human settlements.
The GBA concluded on page 763 that "the root causes of the loss of 
biodiversity are embedded in the way 

[CTRL] Executive Order 13132 the foundation for a global management system

1999-08-21 Thread Dave
Title: 




Re-Inventing Federalism

How Executive 
Order 13132 lays the foundation for a 
global management system

by Andrew and Berit Kjos www.crossroad.to

President Clinton’s latest Executive Order on Federalism 
tips the original balance between state and national governments in his favor. 
His clever wording and occasional confirmations of the old Constitutional views 
may silence critics for a moment. But don’t be deceived. His veiled language 
hides misleading assertions that replace the wise caution of our founders with 
the seditious plans of our power-hungry president.
Much of Executive Order 13132 is simply a clever rewrite 
of President Reagan’s 1987 Executive Order 12612, also titled Federalism. It was 
revoked by President Clinton for an obvious reason: Reagan generally affirmed 
our founders’ wise intentions. Clinton alters the basic principles of federalism 
and paves the way for a new kind of government.
It’s no secret that Clinton, like England’s Prime 
Minister Tony Blair and other European leaders, envisions a Third 
Way (Notice the US-UK flag at this website) of governing 
people and land in the 21st Century. To finish what he has effectively begun, he 
cannot be encumbered by the traditional balance between state and national 
powers. So he rewrites the rules, paving the way to a global management system 
that would rule by -
 
national-and-international standards federal regulations (based on UN guidelines for 
sustainable development)consultation or facilitated dialogue and an illusion of 
consensus
No wonder the word "standards" is mentioned six times, 
"national standards" are mentioned three times, and "consult" or "consultation" 
occur 11 times. Like "partnerships" and "consensus," these words are vital to 
the new management system. When the "consultation" is driven by a federal 
agenda, the consensus process will surely be ruled by the stronger member of the 
new State-Nation partnership. When the latter partner also wields the 
purse-strings, the true meaning of American federalism quickly fades into the 
mist of forgotten history. (See Memory of the 
World.)
"GUIDING PRINCIPLES" THEN AND NOW. To better understand Clinton’s goal, let’s compare his first 
executive order on Federalism, #13083, with the corresponding Executive Order 
12612, signed by President Reagan in 1987. In his Section 2, President Reagan 
listed nine Fundamental Federalism Principles. These principles are important, 
because they provide a legal framework for everything that follows.1 Reagan’s list included these four principles:

  "(a) Federalism is rooted in the knowledge that our 
  political liberties are best assured by limiting the size and scope of the 
  national government."
  "(e) In most areas of governmental concern, the States 
  uniquely possess the constitutional authority, the resources, and the 
  competence to discern the sentiments of the people and to govern accordingly. 
  In Thomas Jefferson's words, the States are 'the most competent 
  administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against 
  anti-republican tendencies.'"
  "(g) Acts of the national government . . . . that 
  exceed the enumerated powers of that government under the Constitution violate 
  the principle of federalism established by the Framers."
  "(i) In the absence of clear constitutional or 
  statutory authority, the presumption of sovereignty should rest with the 
  individual State. Uncertainties regarding the legitimate authority of the 
  national government should be resolved against regulation at the national 
  level."
President Clinton’s recent Executive Order 13132 contains 
a similar list of principles. His Section 2, titled "Fundamental Federalism 
Principles" like Reagan’s above, begins with this introduction:

  "In formulating and implementing policies that have 
  federalism implications, [federal] agencies shall be guided by the following 
  fundamental federalism principles:"
In his first EO on Federalism (signed in 1998), Clinton 
deleted (g) and (i) above. You can see why. They clash with his plans. His 
demand that federal fingers guide our values, health plans, child-raising, 
education, community involvement, workforce training, transportation, land use, 
and a myriad of other activities illustrate his panoramic vision for federal 
control.2
Recently, since Congressional pressure forced him to 
revise his 1998 version (#13083), he put the two deleted principles back into EO 
13132. But principle (i) along with (a) and (e), were significantly altered. 
Compare Reagan’s version with Clinton’s revision below:

  "(a) Federalism is rooted in the belief that issues 
  that are not national in scope or significance are most appropriately 
  addressed by the level of government closest to the 
people."
Clinton deleted Reagan’s warning that "political 
liberties are best assured by limiting the size and scope of the national 
government." Softening the language and avoiding 

[CTRL] Key studies on Fluoridation (JADA, AMA, EPA, FDA)

1999-08-21 Thread Dave
Title: 


Summary of Key Studies



  
  


   The Pasteur Institute and the Nobel 
  Institute oppose fluoridation.They have caused fluoride to be 
  banned in their countries, France and Sweden, respectively
   JAMA (Journal of 
  American Medical Association) links hip fractures and 
  fluoridationReports published in 1990, 1992 and 1992 stated 
  that there was a link between hip fractures in the elderly and water 
  fluoridated at 1 ppm. (the so-called "optimal dose").
   JADA (Journal of the American 
  Dental Association) admits the often 
  stated "optimal" intake level of 1 ppm (part per million) has yet to be 
  determined scientifically.
   AMA (American Medical 
  Association) refuses to say that fluoridation is harmless 
  and "has not carried out any research work, either long term or short 
  term, regarding the possibility of any side effects." - Assistant 
  Director of AMA
  JADA (Journal of the American Dental 
  Association) - states dentists make 17% more 
  PROFIT in fluoridated areas as opposed to non-fluoridated 
  areas. 1972, 84;355-367
  California Dept of Health 
  Services - Dental 
  costs are higher in fluoridated communities
   Fluoridation is approved by voters by 
  less than 25%.Procter  Gamble, the makers of Crest 
  toothpase state, "In 1980, 41 fluoridation referenda were held in the 
  United States; fluoridation was disapproved in 33 of these and approved in 
  only 8."
   
  Sodium 
  Fluoride contains Arsenic  
  LeadAccording to an Allied Chemical Data Sheet sent to 
  cities interested in fluoridating their water supplies.
  EPA lists 
  fluoride as a contaminant.
   International Acadamey of Oral 
  Medicine and Toxicology - has classified fluoride as un 
  unapproved dental medicament due to its high toxicity.
  EPA Scientists Take Stand Against 
  FluoridationJuly 1997. The EPA scientists, engineers 
  and attorneys who assess the scientific data for Safe Drinking Water Act 
  standards and other EPA regulations have gone on record against the 
  practice of adding fluoride to public drinking water.
  FDA - considers 
  fluoride an unapproved drug for which there is no proof of safety or 
  effectiveness.
  Former NIH (National Inst. of 
  Health) scientist opposed to fluorideDr. Patrick, Harvard 
  Ph.D., states Fluoride is capable of a very wide variety of harmful 
  effects, even at low doses.
  Significant increase in bone 
  cancerA 1992 N.J. Dept. of Health study indicated a significant 
  increase in osteosarcoma (bone cancer) in young men who drank fluoridated 
  water.
  Three year old child dies due to 
  fluoride treatment.$750,000 was awarded a family in New York 
  for the fluoride-related death.
  "A significant increase in cancer 
  mortality in the fluoridated cities." a 28 year study 
  concludesA time-trend study of Dr. Burk and Dr. Yiamouyiannis, 
  which compared cancer mortality in ten cities which fluoridated their 
  water systems with ten cities which did not fluoridate.
  Houston sued over fluoridation - and 
  loses based on scientific dataCourt rules "That the artificial 
  fluoridation of public water supplies, such as is contemplated by 
  [Houston] City Ordinance No. 80-2530, may cause or may contribute to the 
  cause of cancer, genetic damage, intolerant reactions, and chronic 
  toxicity, including dental mottling, in man; that the said artificial 
  fluoridation may aggravate malnutrition and existing illnesses in man; and 
  that the value of said artificial fluoridation is in doubt as to the 
  reduction of tooth decay in man."
  Why have 32 cities rejected 
  fluoridation since 1996? What do they know?
  City warns residents about 
  Fluoridated waterNatick Mass. - March 1998 When people open 
  their next town water bills, they will notice a warning about 
  fluoridation. The town recommends pregnant women, parents of children 
  under 3, and people sensitive to fluoride consult their doctors.
  ADA (American Dental Association) study 
  suggests too much Toothpaste Causes Fluorosis.A study published 
  in the December Journal of the American Dental Association (JADA) shows 
  that children who use too much toothpaste are at a significant risk for 
  dental Fluorosis.
  Judge reinstates EPA scientist who 
  recommends ELIMINATING FLUORIDE from water supplies.Secretary 
  of Labor Robert Reich has ordered the reinstatement of Dr. William Marcus, 
  a Senior Toxicologist with the EPA, who was fired by the Environmental 
  Protection Agency after he opposed the use of fluoride in drinking 
  water.
  Mr. Reich ratified a Dec. 3, 1992, ruling by Judge David 

[CTRL] [Fwd: The Stranger]

1999-08-21 Thread Bill

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Chris Page wrote:

 Subject: THE STRANGER
   Date:  Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:31:07 -0600
   From:  spiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  (Recipient list suppressed)

 Chris wrote: It really is worth reading

 Mark L. Santelman wrote:

 Forgive me, but this perspective is worth sending. Mark

 THE STRANGER

 A few months before I was born, my dad met a stranger who was new to our
 small town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting
 newcomer, and soon invited him to live with our family. The stranger was
 quickly accepted and was around to welcome me into the world a few
 months later.

 As I grew up I never questioned his place in our family. Mom taught me
 to love the Word of God, and Dad taught me to obey it. But the stranger
 was our storyteller. He could weave the most fascinating  tales.
 Adventures, mysteries, and comedies were daily conversations. He could
 hold our whole family spellbound for hours each evening. He was like a
 friend to  the whole family. He took Dad, Bill, and me to our first
 major league baseball  game. He was always encouraging us to see the
 movies and he even made arrangements to introduce us to several movie
 stars.

 The stranger was an  incessant talker. Dad didn't seem to mind, but
 sometimes Mom would quietly get  up - while the rest of us were
 enthralled with one of his stories of faraway  places - go to her room,
 read her Bible, and pray. I wonder now if she ever  prayed that the
 stranger would leave. You see, my dad ruled our household with  certain
 moral convictions. But this stranger never felt an obligation to honor
 them. Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our house-not from us,
 from our friends, or adults. Our longtime visitor, however, used
 occasional four letter words that burned my ears and made Dad squirm. To
 my knowledge the stranger was never confronted.

 My Dad was a teetotaler who didn't permit alcohol in  his home - not
 even for cooking. But the stranger felt like we needed exposure  and
 enlightened us to other ways of life. He offered us beer and other
 alcoholic beverages often.  He made cigarettes look tasty, cigars manly,
 and pipes distinguished.

 He talked freely (too much too freely) about  sex. His comments were
 sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing. I
 know now that my early concepts of the man/woman relationship were
 influenced by the stranger.

 As I look back, I believe it was the  grace of God that the stranger did
 not influence us more. Time after time he  opposed the values of my
 parents, yet he was seldom rebuked and never asked to  leave.

 More than thirty years have passed since the stranger moved in with the
 young family on Morningside Drive. But if I were to walk into my parents
 den today, you would still see him sitting over in a corner, waiting
 for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw
 his pictures.

 His  name? . . . . . . . . . . . . .  .

 We always just called him .  . . TV.
 

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[CTRL] Egyptologist Responds To David Icke's August 11 Giza Update

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/response.htm
A HREF="http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/response.htm"SIGHTINGS/A
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SIGHTINGS

Egyptologist Responds To
David Icke's August 11 Giza Update
From Amargi Hillier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Director, Project Duat - Cairo, Egypt
The New Hall of Records WWW Live from Egypt!
http://www.projectduat.com/hall-of-records/
8-15-99


LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE AT
GIZA, EGYPT, AUGUST 11TH


"Arizona Wilder has claimed on this website that the Illuminati were
planning key sacrificial rituals in the Great Pyramid at Giza during the
solar elcipse today, August 11th."

AH: The hotels are full of groups coming here to do rituals in the
pyramid during these eclipses. Also the same during the equinoxes and
solstices. There was no blood rituals going on. No murders at the
pyramid.


"I had many people contact me to say this was impossible because the
pyramid would be full of tourists at that time."

AH: No it is very possible for groups to do their rituals here with
tourists around. Groups doing rituals with the tourists present is
extremely common. You know why? The group, prior to entering, is too
locked into their ritual 'opening a stargate' type of fantasy to think
about the reality of what goes on here. So they end up inside the
pyramid to do their rituals and suddenly tourists start coming in.


"I was at the public entrance to the Great Pyramid myself today and I
intended to go in during the eclipse to see what would happen. At one
o'clock in the afternoon, around an hour and forty minutes before the
eclipse reached it's peak over Giza, the inside of the pyramid was
CLOSED to the public. "

AH: I was in the pyramid most of the night. Went back to the flat to do
some work. I was at the Sphinx to take photos for the Project Duat
website at this time Icke mentions. Then headed up to the Great Pyramid
later to do the same. Yes, the pyramid was closed... but I didn't have
any trouble getting inside, although no more tickets were being sold. I
simply know the watchmen and what it takes to get in. But considering
that I help the watchman's son pass his English exam.


"Inside... standard run-of-the-mill newage group. No doubt opening up
the next dimension for all of us. But somehow life goes on as normal
after they leave."

An Arab guide I had with me who has lived and worked at the pyramids for
70 years, said he was bewildered at what was happening. It was new to
him."

AH: Who was this... Hakim? Don't confuse "bewildered" with "not telling
the tourist before-hand hoping to score the business somehow".


"I was later told that just THREE weeks ago a new policy was imposed in
which only 150 people a day are allowed inside and once that number have
gone in, no more are allowed inside."

AH: The monuments go through a hard-time with this vast amount of
tourists. Many like to blame Egypt. I don't see too much Arabic graffiti
carved into the walls or rocks. Mostly English. Even a group doing
rituals with candles will leave the wax on the floors. Or fill the
chambers with insence. A while back I found empty KFC fast food
containers in the Tomb of Osiris. Does Osiris eat at KFC? I know that
watchmen and workers are eating kofta, fuul, tamayaa, koshery... etc...
Egyptian food, not touristic priced fast food.


"What a coincidence that this number was reached at one o'clock today
and the last people left the pyramid at 2.10pm, half an hour before the
eclipse reached it's peak here."

AH: Limit of 300 people per day. 150 in the morning... 150 in the
afternoon. Although some people still like to think there is secret
stuff going on and people are not allowed to go in, I think 300 is far
from nothing. And what about at night? Permission is still available for
groups to go into the pyramid for night-time meditations.

But you say that access was closed early? Are you considering the
following:

- 150 or 300 is a small amount of tourists. These tickets can get bought
up pretty quickly considering the amount of groups that want to be here
during these special days. After that... no more tickets sold. The
little booth is closed. Two more watchmen added and the ticket man
either goes home or back to the office.

I recall once going to a movie in California and the tickets were all
sold out. A conspiracy no doubt, eh?

- Ticket prices are 20 LE (approx $5) for foreigners. 1 LE for
Egyptians. Now consider this logic, for it is reality. If there is a
limit on the amount of tickets sold for day access to the pyramid...
what does this mean for tour companies who are dealing with bus loads of
groups? They haul the groups up there and no tickets are available. So
what is stopping Mr. Tour Leader from going to the ticket office first
thing in the morning and buying 50 tickets to ensure his group will get
in? Why not buy the whole lot of tickets even if your group is small?
Then you get private access without the 

[CTRL] Fwd: GPS systems may fail this weekend (fwd)

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan






You recently advised me to forward rejected posts to you for
posting?

Best,

Mike

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In a foretaste of the worst fears of Y2K scaremongers,
authorities expect massive failures of navigation equipment that
uses the Global Positioning System, or GPS, at midnight, this
Saturday, August 21. Hardest hit could be light aircraft flyers
and sailboat operators, they say. Though it may seem like it's
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[CTRL] Fwd: Aldrich Says Everyone Needs to Speak Up

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Aldrich Says Everyone Needs to Speak Up
By Stephen Goode

Former FBI agent Gary Aldrich has founded an organization
dedicated to protecting whistle-blowers, fighting political
correctness and preserving First Amendment freedoms.

  Three years ago Gary Aldrich published Unlimited Access, a
book about the extraordinary behavior and serious breaches of
security he witnessed while doing background checks on White
House personnel as an FBI agent inside the presidential mansion.
Unlimited Access was on the New York Times best-seller list for
20 weeks and has to date sold more than 500,000 copies.

. . . . These days Aldrich is president of the Patrick Henry
Center for Individual Rights, a group he founded to help
whistle-blowers and to be a leader in the battle against
political correctness. Aldrich enjoyed his 26 years in the FBI,
but gave it all up to write and publish his book on the Clinton
White House. His big concern today is that Americans are too
cowed by the politically correct to speak what's really on their
minds. The Patrick Henry Center's mission, says Aldrich in the
center's News Bulletin is "to bring truth back into style and
fight the PC police."

. . . . Insight: How did you happen to name your foundation after
Patrick Henry?

. . . . Gary Aldrich: Actually the answer is pretty easy. In
December 1995, when I thought I had an interest in writing a book
about the Clinton White House and determined I could do it, I
still had this nagging question I needed to answer: Why me? How
could I be so presumptuous that I could write a book about the
president of the United States and get away with it?

. . . . As it happened, my son had some school work he had to
complete which required us to go to Colonial Williamsburg. While
I was down there, I was going through some of the material
available on the Founders and found some very interesting
information on Patrick Henry.

. . . . Like everyone else, my knowledge of Henry was his speech
at St. John's Church, "Give me liberty or give me death!" I knew
he was a patriot and a brave man, but I had no idea of the depth
of his participation in the founding. Five times governor of
Virginia. He, George Mason and a few others were instrumental in
assuring we had our Bill of Rights.

. . . . He and others said, "We've just got rid of one monarchy
and we're not about to install another!" Patrick Henry had the
courage to speak his beliefs as he saw fit, and we need more of
that.

. . . . Insight: In a recent issue of the Patrick Henry Center's
News Bulletin, you quote what Confucius said 2,500 years ago when
he was asked what he would first do to change a corrupt
government: "It would certainly be to correct language. If
language is not correct, what is said is not what is meant; what
ought to be done remains undone; morals deteriorate; justice will
go astray; and the people will stand about in hopeless

[CTRL] NWO Gloalist info/links

1999-08-21 Thread Dave
Title: 



The Global Perspective 

  
  Continually today, in the restructuring 
  (transformation) of America, we hear the phrase "global economy". The 
  word global means worldwide … comprehensive, universal. 
  The word economy refers to the system of arrangement or mode 
  of operation or functioning of something. In correlation with 
  global, such would denote a worldwide system of governance — a world 
  government, or as some refer to it, a one-world government.
  American citizens, becoming increasingly concerned about the move away from 
  our Constitution and Bill of Rights via treaties that undermine American 
  sovereignty, have been labelled "conspiracy theorists", the "black helicopter 
  crowd", "right wing religious fanatics", so on and so forth. But are 
  they? Or do they know something that the majority of Americans should 
  know, but would rather not know, because to know would require that they 
  become involved.
  The "information super highway," has provided quick and easy access to all 
  sorts of documents, and all sorts of websites. The information is there 
  for the reading. The price of freedom has always been vigilance on the 
  part of the individual, for a well-informed people cannot be easily deceived. 
  In that vein, it would behoove Americans to start reading, for … by 
  their words shall ye know them. 
  The links below are links to treaties that supercede our United States 
  Constitution or are being considered by our Congress for ratification, and 
  documents which define the transformation of American society that Americans 
  are seeing happen right now and at a rapidly increasing rate under the mantra 
  of "restructuring".
  
  
  




  
If you have a globalist 
website that you would like to share with others, please email me the URL. 
Additions will be at my 
  discretion.
  
  Links:
  Academy for Education Development 
  (Connection to 
  Washington State)Agenda 21 
  Mirror site 
  Association to Unite the 
  Democracies Awakening 
  EarthCommission on Global Governance 
  Communications for a Sustainable 
  Future Education for 
  All Forum (UNESCO)Futurist Worldwide Web 
  Links The 
  Global Mellennium ProjectGreenpeace International International Association of 
  FacilitatorsNew Horizons for 
  Learning Related World 
  Government LinksGreen Gross 
  International (Mikhail Gorbachev)Rio Declaration on 
  Environment and Development Mirror site Robert Muller Schools International 
  Coordinating CenterSierra 
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[CTRL] The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave.

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind
Controlled Slave.
by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier

Under Construction

TABLE OF CONTENTS

Introduction

.

THE 12 MAJOR SCIENCES OF MONARCH MIND-CONTROL

I. THE SELECTION  PREPARATION OF THE VICTIM

A. Genetics  dissociative abilities

B. Availability

C. Physical  Mental requirements

D. List of organizations carrying out programming

B. 4 foundational steps for programming

F. STEP 1. Spiritual requirements, Moon Child ceremonies, traumatization
in vitro

G. STEP 2. Trauma by premature birth

H. STEP 3. Love bombing/love bonding

I. STEP 4. Severing the "core" of the mind

J. Further considerations

II. THE TRAUMATIZATION  TORTURE OF THE VICTIM

...

A. A site for torture of children, NOTS China Lake

B. What trauma does, the creation of PTSD  DID (MPD)

C. How the torture is carried out, types of trauma

D. How MPD works

E. The Core

F. The Anchoring Experience

III. THE USE OF DRUGS
A. A list of drugs used
B. A brief history of use
C. Applications for drugs to control a slave

IV. THE USE OF HYPNOSIS


...

A. Dissociation, trance,  its historical use

B. How to program with hypnosis

C. How to boost creativity of victim with hypnosis

D. Keeping the mind dissociative

E. Keeping the mind in a programming state

F. Hypnotic triggers  cues

G. Hypnosis in programs  other uses

V. THE SKILL OF LYING, THE ART OF DECEIT



A. Overview

B. The use of fiction

C. The use of lies externally, incl. covers and fronts

D. The use of internal deceptions, incl. the art of hiding things in a
system

VI. THE USE OF ELECTRICITY  ELECTRONICS

.



A. For torture

B. For memory deletion

C. For implanting thoughts

D. Electronic communication  control



VII. ENGINEERING  STRUCTURING OF AN MPD SYSTEM

A. Structuring of MPD worlds

B. The creation of roles

C. Building in layered defenses D. Building backup systems

VIII. BODY MANIPULATION  PROGRAMMING



A. Scarring the brain stem

B. Split brain work

C. Medical technologies

D. Histamines

E. The use of body programs

IX. MIND MANIPULATION BY PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGRAMMING METHODS:

BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION  NLP
..

A. Observing a satanic family conditioning their children
B. Behavior modification, obedience training
C. Isolation
D. Repetition
E. Psychological motivators, md. pride/needs/wants
F. Neuro-linguistic programming
G. The inversion of pain  pleasure

X. SPIRITUAL CONTROL TECHNIQUES, POSSESSION TRANCES, ETC

...

A. Using spiritual principles against a person
B. How the Monarch program miniturizes what is done on a large scale
C. Dehumanization
D. Fear
E. The use of guilt, shame, ridicule  anger
F. Teaching that the master is God
G. Portals, Focal Points
H. Vows  oaths
I. The use of demon possession, layering in, etc.
J. The use of "angel" alters
K. The misuse of Scripture
L. Theta programming

XI. INTERNAL CONTROLS



A. Teaching occult philosophies  ideologies
B. Internal computers
C. Internal hierarchies

XII. EXTERNAL CONTROLS



A. Monitoring (Asset control)
B. The art of blackmail
C. Bribes
D. The Control of the Milieu
E. Bonding  twinning
F. Peer pressure




Appendix I -- The Programmers



Appendix II -- The programming Sites



Bibliography

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[CTRL] The Origins of the Illuminati

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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The Origins of the Illuminati




Not much has been said about the origins of the Illuminati. Some
researchers trace the origins back to the Bavarian Illuminati in the
1700's, but this secret organization goes way back.

The Illuminati can be traced back at least 4000 years, but the first
Order wasn't fully established until the Babylonian era, around 1000
B.C. So around 4000 years ago the original Brotherhood was
infiltratedHowever, the plans were made already during the Sumerian era,
in Mesopotamia, which is the land between the rivers Tigris and
Euphrates (Iraq), under the reign of King Ur-Nammu. This was during the
Third Dynasty of Ur, around 2112-2004 B.C.

The reign of king Ur was to establish which Brotherhood would come into
rulership, and the wars took place, which resulted in the erection of
Babylon the Great.

Then, during the Babylonian era, three Brotherhoods were established,
still fighting. They were:

The White Order (The White Brotherhood). This branch was operating from
Greece.

The Green Brotherhood (The Green Dragon), operated, and is still
operating, in Asia, which should not be confused with the Green Glove of
Russia, which is the Russian Brotherhood. The origins before they were
established in coded color Brotherhoods, the Brotherhood was called the
Cult of the Snake, which later in Greece took its form as the Cult of
Aesclapios.

The Yellow Brotherhood, which had its seat in old Egypt.

The Green Brotherhood and the Yellow eventually merged into one, to
what today is called The Green Dragon. In the Babylonian era, the
bloodline of the Green Dragon was split in four directions and was thus
thinned. The bloodline of the White Order on the other hand, has been
kept in a straight line from father to son from the time of King
Ur-Nammu, without being broken at all.

Most interesting of the three is therefore the White Brotherhood, which
seems to be totally unknown to researchers. It's a very secretive order,
not mentioned at all today. They were the ones who delianated the path
of which civilizations and societies were to take in the creation of
their One World Dominated Realm, which hence created and produced the
Greek alphabet, politics (the way it is used up to this very day),
theosophy, philosophy (including the "great" philosophers Plato,
Socrates etc), government, military, education, religion, segregated
hierarchies and the Arian dream, used by Hitler and the Elite. In other
words, they are the source to the civilization we have today in the
Western World.

It's interesting how this fact has been hidden, as we look at it, most
of the Western World today operates on the same principles used by the
old Greeks.

Ever since the beginning, it has been very important that the bloodline
is kept clean to keep the occult power, meaning that each generation
must bring to birth at least one son - preferably more than one, as we
shall see.

To be able to enter the White Brotherhood you had to have a master's
degree on all various subjects that were related to secret teachings,
and many of the subjects were beyond the reach of the rest of
society. ONLY men from the right bloodline were allowed to enter. This
means in practice, that to be accepted, you had to be educated for 40
years(!). The same principle is in practice today. Therefore it was
important to give birth to as many sons as possible - if one failed
their degree, another one might pass.

This also explains why the Western civilization operates the way it does
today and one more bit of the puzzle is laid. The White Brotherhood laid
the grounds for the New World Order, passed it on to the secret
societies, and the "Work of the Ages" have continued ever since ...



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Sources: Deep research into various Greek archieves

Published: Aug 14 1999
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[CTRL] Alien Programming Scripts

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ALIEN PROGRAMMING SCRIPTS



There are numerous scripts for the Alien programming. Recent novels and
Hollywood movies provide a non-ending pool of programming resources for
the Programmers. Visual reality headgear and other high-tech methods can
easily be incorporated into an "alien abduction" theme. The following
are samples of some of the people who the author Fritz has spent time
with, who on one level knew they needed help, but didn’t know just what
they felt uneasy about.

PERSON 1. Had been abducted by "aliens" since she was a small child.
Different types of "aliens" took her. Her mother worked for the CIA at
Area 51. Her mother was abusive to her. One of her best friends is a
Monarch slave. When the "aliens" come a bright light appears and then
they abduct her. The "aliens" she works with the most look exactly like
people, and in their handwriting show severe abuse. These benevolent
aliens have taken her fetusus several times. She has time-travelled to
"their planet." She is dissociative. The government authorities are
constantly monitoring and tracking her, and have made an effort to
besmudge her record, so that it appears like she is looney tunes. This
is the type of cases that this book’s co-author has spent time working
with. Doesn’t this sound more like human mind-control than real aliens?

PERSON 2. This person hears aliens within his head (which when described
sounds like a case of MPD (DID). The "aliens" would take him and force
him to have homosexual

activities even though he didn’t want to participate. But that was O.K.
to him, because they were a superior race and if these benevolent
"aliens" which are so far advanced beyond us, want to have sex with him,
that is their perogative. This person has a lot of depression. This
person wonders why the authorities seem to keep track of him.

PERSON 3. This person worked at Area 51. Has a photographic memory
throughout his entire MPD system. He realizes that he is MPD. His best
friend claims to be an alien, a god of sorts, and is known by both this
person  Fritz to be part of Naval Intelligence. This best friend acts
more like a handler than an alien, and this Area 51 worker gives his
best friend total alligiance. This man has all kinds of "alien" type
stories, which sound in many cases like programming. This person admits
that his family is Illuminati, and the front alters say he has "watched
Illuminati rituals as an adult, but hasn’t participated". He shows signs
of severe abuse. He is afraid to talk about trauma-based mind-control,
but loves to talk about aliens. In fact, all three of the persons discus
sed on this page shied away from talking about Monarch mind-control, as
if it were something not important, but they all love to talk about
aliens.

And the list of interesting people like this could go on. When
Mind-controlled slaves who have alien programming are being abducted by
the intelligence agencies for their use and for programming here are
some of the details of how and what occurs: A bright light is shined
into their house. They have been hypnotically conditioned to view this
light as a Flying Saucer, whether it is a helicopter or something else.
As the NWO does have Flying Saucers, sometimes the real thing is used.
Men in Black (just like in SRA cases) are often associated with the
abductions. And the slaves frequently speak about "shadows in the mind."
The slaves are taken to rooms where examining tables with white sheets
and X-ray machines, Headgear and medical equipment is in place. (The ali
en equipment has gotten more high-tech over the last 40 years. The
"aliens" wear suits that are full of occult symbology. The people are
restrained with clamps and electrical shock and energy is used on them.
They are told that they are receiving information. They are given
tracking implants and other implants. All of the 3 above persons,
receive information from the "aliens" regularly. Almost all of the
elements of Monarch trauma-based mind-control appear in these abduction
accounts, especially in the psychological features of the victim. The
victims of "alien" abduction programming feel suicidal after they talk
too much. They have headaches, sleep difficulties, nightmares, obsessive
thoughts, a fear of hypnosis, trapped feelings, and paranoia. During
their abductions the "aliens" use drugs, thought transfers, and painful
medical procedures. The "aliens" use language that parallels the
messages given to SRA victims, just change the language from "Satan is
in charge" to the "Aliens are in charge". Cattle mutilations where the
blood has been drain are associated with abductions. There is documented
accounts where cattle mutilations have been connected to Satanic cults
using helicopters. The victims of "aliens" are forced to be impregnated
and then the fetus is repeatedly taken. The 

[CTRL] MENA INTERMOUNTAIN MUNICIPAL AIRPORT

1999-08-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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Mena, Arkansas
Visits since July 1st, 1999.
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Mena Airport HistoryVisit Mena, Arkansas
Conveniently located in Mid-America, the Mena Intermountain Municipal
Airport provides complete and quality services for aircraft. Just check
out the many services provided by the local airport businesses. Your
one-stop facility to provide all your aircraft repair, painting,
upholstery, maintenence and modifications.
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History of the
Mena Intermountain
Municipal Airport

An airport at Mena was the dream of interested pilots and hobby flyers
in the 1930's. A rough flying field was started on the McBride property
south of town in the early 40's. In 1942, Hartzell Geyer built the first
hangar and opened a small flying school. In 1946 serious construction
was begun as the Civil Aeronautics Commission ( now the FAA) chose the
site as an emergency landing strip for commercial aircraft. Mayor Albert
Middleton requested the property under Eminent Domain from the McBride
estate.
Mena is the approximate midway point between Fort Smith and Texarkana
and was a desirable point being approximately 100 miles from the nearest
airport. In the early years the grass field was maintained by an
agreement with a farmer who mowed and bailed the runway for the hay. The
portraits of two flight pioneers now hang at the airport office honoring
the contributions of Hamp Edwards, an early flight instructor and Leo
Overturf, an early airport businessman and pilot that was killed in a
crash in the early 1970's.

After development of the airstrip, several businesses began to service
aircraft at the remote but centrally located airport. Popularity of the
airport has continued to grow through the years. Presently the Regional
Airport has a lighted and paved 5000 foot runway with support and
mechanical services for most aircraft including small and mid-sized
commercial airliners.

The aircraft industry at Mena now employs more than 160 in upholstery,
painting, engineering and general maintenance fields. The Mena Aircraft
industry brings millions of dollars into the local economy each year. A
second landing strip is now under construction and will be equipped for
instrument landing. The new 6000 foot runway is a result of the
progressive efforts of local business leaders. This addition will be a
boost to the local economy for many years to come.

Reprinted From:
Mena Centennial History 1896-1996,
A photographic History of Mena, Arkansas.
Michael Cate, Editor and Publisher.
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