[CTRL] US Govt Sued for Sudan Bombing
-Caveat Lector- U.S. Bombing of Sudan Questioned By DAVID BRISCOE .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - The businessman whose pharmaceutical plant in Sudan was destroyed by U.S. missiles a year ago is considering a lawsuit against the United states to recover the $30 million cost of rebuilding. His lawyers say the man has evidence that proves the bombing was unjustified. Salah Idris, a Sudanese national who also carries a Saudi Arabian passport, has hired a high-priced team of lawyers, investigators and scientists to collect soil samples and other evidence in trying to get the Clinton administration to pay for the plant it said was manufacturing war chemicals. The administration already has quietly freed $25 million in previously frozen assets belonging to Idris, although it maintains that its own soil sample proved the plant was manufacturing Empta, a chemical whose only use is to make VX nerve gas. The Aug. 20, 1998, attack on the plant in Khartoum, Sudan's capital, was based on the single soil sample and on a suspected link to suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. Idris has denied ties to terrorism or to bin Laden, believed to be in Afghanistan who used to live in a sprawling Khartoum hideaway. His lawyers say they're awaiting the go-ahead to sue if the U.S. government refuses to pay. The administration acknowledges it didn't know Idris owned the targeted plant but says its ownership makes no difference. ``We are ready to go to trial,'' Idris' lead attorney, George Salem, said in a recent interview. ``The plant came out clean and, of course, our client came out clean.'' Salem said Idris feels the unfreezing of his assets cleared his name of involvement in terrorism and is weighing the risks of suing the U.S. government, which can suppress evidence based on national security. ``Mr. Idris is a great believer in the American system of justice,'' Salem said. ``It has vindicated him thus far, and before taking this next step, he wishes to make sure that all of his other options are exhausted.'' Idris' plant was destroyed in an attack coordinated with strikes on an alleged terrorist training camp in Afghanistan - all in response to the bombings two weeks earlier of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed 224 people, including 12 Americans. Idris contends his factory provided 50 percent of Sudan's basic medicines, including treatments for malaria and tuberculosis. Sudanese officials say Idris' plant alone saved the government 28 percent of hard currency it spends on imported medicines. The bombing killed a watchman and injured several other people. The government freed Idris' assets in May after he filed an earlier lawsuit. Officials said they still had sensitive information about him but weren't willing to reveal it. At the time, a senior official told reporters that U.S. agents were monitoring Idris and ``his network.'' Idris got $24 million the U.S. Treasury had ordered frozen plus another $1 million in accumulated interest. In recent weeks, officials have refused to discuss Idris, even in background briefings, citing pending litigation. In the last official statement more than a month ago, State Department spokesman James Foley said: ``Our actions against the al-Shifa plant were not in any way predicated on that person's ownership of the plant.'' He said it had to do with bin Laden's intentions, his ties to Sudan and the discovery at the plant of Empta. Senate and House intelligence committees have raised questions about the retaliatory strike. Sudan, which denies it supports terrorism, has asked for compensation and for a U.N. inquiry into the bombing. Idris has hired heavyweights to help him. Salem leads a group of partners at the high-octane Washington firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer Field. He would not discuss costs but described as low an estimate that Idris is paying $3 million for his U.S. legal work. ``We put together a first-class team of scientists, chemists, environmentalists, experts in every realm, in order to give a proper defense,'' Salem said. The lawyers had E. Norbert Garrett, a former CIA station chief in Kuwait, investigate Idris' claims and background - he has been a banker and exporter. They also enlisted Thomas D. Tullius, chemistry department chairman at Boston University, to direct a soil investigation using a British environmental engineer to collect samples from the plant and recognized laboratories to test them. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read.
[CTRL] Chaos Magick Paradigmal Piracy
-Caveat Lector- found on the web Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart I.O.T. Paradigmal Piracy This act of eclectic gathering combined with the habit of never staying within the confines of one paradigm too long, is what we call paradigmal piracy. The chaos magician takes on the belief system necessary to obtain the desired results. As the chaos magician grows within that system he or she will add elements from other paradigms. Conversely speaking, the chaos magician will also ignore or "delete" elements of the paradigm which are spiritual 'clap-trap' or do not produce the desired results. Chaos magicians may practice the techniques of chaos magick but they must do so within a specific paradigm, which roughly means that a chaos magician must believe in something in order to obtain results. What specifically the chaos magician believes in is entirely up to them. I've seen those that think the Cthulhu mythos of H.P. Lovecraft is a powerful paradigm. Others have worked within the Wiccan paradigm for years and obtained fantastic results. Still others are hardcore atheists (like the author). Chaos magicians are Setians, Satanists, Santeros, Sorcerers, Kitchen Witches, Thelemites, Cabalists, etc. etc. A simple way of understanding chaos magic theory vis a vis any paradigm is to think of a metaparadigm and a specific paradigm in the following manner: Consider the paradigm itself as the explanation and the metaparadigm as the action. Chaos Magick Theory consists of a series of techniques, actions if you will. The results of which depend upon what the practitioner desires as an outcome. The paradigm, and it can be any paradigm, consists of how we explain our universe to others. The paradigm is the why. "Why did you do that?" "Why did you want that?" The metaparadigm is the how. "How did you do that?" The techniques are devoid of meaning. The paradigm, in many cases, devoid of method. Everyone exists in a paradigm. Some people who exist in a paradigm use a metaparadigmal theory to move through that paradigm. Perhaps this is why many occultists who are ONE THING fear chaos magicians. The chaos magician will take what they need from a paradigm and then move on. Don't like something about being a Wiccan? Ignore it! Don't like treating Set as an objective entity while being a Setian? Believe that he is a metaphor. What rather frightens non-chaos magicians is the ability for chaos magicians to get results while treating the paradigms in which they dwell with such a cavalier attitude. Nothing frustrates a 'true believer' more than someone who acts like a 'true believer', because he has to do it in order to get what he wants; and then is no longer a 'true believer' once he gets what he needs. While a 'true believer' will stomach the idiocies of his or her paradigm without complaint, a chaos magician will simply ignore them BECAUSE they are idiotic. A chaos magician will never accept, "that's true because I/the bible/the high priestess said so." The chaos magician will treat things as true when it suits him and ignore them when it does not. The fact that various god forms, egregores, demons and goddesses don't strike down chaos magicians left and right must really be starting to annoy some people! What's worse is that chaos magicians are currently having their cake and eating it too when it comes to the beliefs of others. We take what we need and then move on. Works for you? Maybe it will work for us. Doesn't work for you? Too bad. The chaos magician will move onto something that does work. Many existing occult groups have come up with tons of useful magical material. The chaos magician should feel free to use whatever system works best for him. The chaos magician should also not hesitate to join a group of non-chaos magicians in order to learn what they are teaching. One more point on the subject of paradigmal piracy. Attitude is everything. You'll never gain an ounce of real knowledge from anyone or any group by going in cock-sure and know-it-all. Show these magicians deference and respect; many of them have been at this magick thing for decades and could possibly teach you a lot, if your mind is open to it. While their beliefs are a matter of convenience for you; it is a matter of lifestyle for them. I've found many groups open to me even though I was a chaos magician. I was honest with them, up front and they still shared everything. Nuts and Bolts As mentioned above, chaos magick theory involves the use of altered states of consciousness in order to effect magical change upon the world. While many paradigms use altered states in order to obtain results, they do so in a rather haphazard fashion usually attributing the results of the magician to "the goddess/god, the stars, true will" and not giving credit (or blame) where it is due. Peter Carroll outlines chaos magick theory in a precise (and pedantic) fashion in Liber Kaos, with several magical formulas. I like
[CTRL] Cornelius Vanderbilt
-Caveat Lector- Here's some family information about the Vanderbilts who "owned" Chauncey Depew. from: http://www.stfrancis.edu/ba/ghkickul/stuwebs/bbios/biograph/vanderbi.htm By 1829 Vanderbilt decided to go on his own and entered the competitive service between New York and Peekskill, where he had the first of several encounters with Daniel Drew. Vanderbilt won by cutting rates to as low as 12 1/2 cents, which forced Drew to withdraw. Next he challenged the Hudson River Association in the Albany trade. After he again cut rates, the competition paid him off to move his operations elsewhere. Vanderbilt opened service to Long Island Sound, Providence, Boston, and points in Connecticut. The vessels offered the passenger not only comfort, but often luxury. By the 1840's he was running more than 100 steamboats and his company had more employees than any other business in the United States. Vanderbilt is given credit for bringing about a great and rapid advance in the size, comfort, and elegance of steamboats which were considered "floating palaces". In 1846 he launched on the Hudson the finest boat yet seen by New Yorkers and named it for himself. By the time he was 40, Vanderbilt's wealth exceeded $500,000, but he still looked for new opportunities. During the California gold rush of 1849, people traveled by boat to Panama, by land across the Isthmus on muleback, and onto steamers to the Pacific coast. Vanderbilt challenged the Pacific Steamship company by offering similar service via an overland route across Nicaragua, which saved 600 miles and cut the going price by half. This move netted him over $1 million a year. In the process he improved to some extent the channel of the San Juan River, built docks on the east and west coasts of Nicaragua and at Virgin Bay on Lake Nicaragua, and made a twelve-mile macadam road to his west coast port. He began construction of a fleet of eight new steamers and the route was two days shorter than that via Panama. He greatly reduced the New York-San Francisco passenger fare and garnered most of the traffic. He made money so rapidly, that in 1853 he announced that he was going to take the first vacation of his life. He built a sumptuously appointed steam yacht, The North Star and embarked for a triumphal tour of Europe. Before going abroad, Vanderbilt resigned the presidency of the Accessory Transit Company, and committed its management to Charles Morgan and Cornelius Garrison, who, during his absence, manipulated the stock and secured control of the company. By shrewd buying he won it back in a few months. However, the Nicaraguan government rescinded the company's charter on the grounds that its terms had been disregarded, and issued a new charter to a rival group. He sold controlling interests to the Nicaragua Transit Company, which failed to pay him. In a famous incident, he told them that the law was too slow; rather, he would ruin them. He did this in just two years by running another group of steamers. In the 1850's he dabbled in the Atlantic carrying trade competition for passenger service between New York and France with the Cunard and Collins lines. He built three vessels, one of which, the Vanderbilt, was the largest and finest he had yet constructed. It was an unprofitable venture, however, and at the beginning of the Civil War he sold his Atlantic line for $3 million. He retained the Vanderbilt, which he fitted up as a warship and turned over to the government. It has been claimed that he intended only to make a loan of the vessel, but it was interpreted as a gift. Vanderbilt liked making money more than spending it. One of the few purchases he was willing to make was his Staten Island mansion, the only place he felt truly comfortable. The New York City elite snubbed him, saying he was a rich but hopelessly vulgar man. Nearing the age of 70, Vanderbilt decided once again that the wave of the future was in another direction -- building a railroad empire. He first acquired the New York and Harlem Railroad, in the process again defeating Daniel Drew. He next acquired the rundown Hudson River Railroad, which Cornelius wanted to consolidate with the Harlem. Again Drew attempted to sell the stock short, defeat the consolidation, and make a substantial profit. But, as before, the Commodore won the battle by buying every share Drew sold, thereby stabilizing the price. Vanderbilt acquired the Central Railroad in 1867, merged it with the Hudson River Railroad by legislative act, and leased the Harlem to the new company. He spent large sums of money improving the lines' efficiency and then increased the capital stock by $42 million (which was a stockwatering operation of magnitude) and paid large dividends. In the first five years, he is said to have cleared $25 million. Vanderbilt finally hit a snag in 1867 when he attempted to gain control of the Erie Railroad, then in the hands of his old adversary, Daniel Drew. Again Vanderbilt bought all the stock offered
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Fw: What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army?
-Caveat Lector- Do not know what good a handgun will do against an army except allow one to die standing rather than live on their knees, which is a good thing as far as I am concerned. But I DO know that Clorox crystals and vaseline make a great C4. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Corporation Punishment
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-25 19:42:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 8.In addition to the fine on the corporation, the personal assets of stockholders should be forfeited for their criminal negligence and lack of oversight. 9.The increasing number of lawless corporations calls for stricter penalties. Bring back the death penalty for corporations. In this context, the 'death penalty' is the closure of the corporation, the forfeiture of its assets to its victims and/or the government and the winding up of its affairs by a court appointed receiver. EXCELLENT suggestions. Let corporate criminals feel the injustice of forfeiture laws inflicted on ordinary citizens! Also, since many majority shareholders hold stock in other corporations, a la "interlocking directorates," let's spell out that asset forfeiture apply to ALL shares in ALL corporations in which a convicted party has an interest. In addition to the above penalties, how about this: "Indicted corporations (and their stareholders, individually) are forbidden to engage in politics -- e.g., barred from making campaign contributions." Instead of being permitted EXTRAORDINARY privileges under the law, corporations should have to endure the same RESTRICTIONS on "outside activities" placed on churches and NON-profit groups by state and federal tax codes ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- Homoeopathy, as any one with above room temperature I.Q. could discover in about twenty minutes on the Internet, enjoys great popularity in the U.K., India, South America, and to lesser extent- the U.S. (due to greater repression, including apparently- the efforts of Encyclopedia Britannica) This is not due to mere ignorance. This is evidence of a purposeful attempt to discredit homoeopathy. It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE that Britain's royal family favors homoeopathic treatment for themselves, I guess it is up to the Encyclopedia Britannica to see to it that such effective alternatives to poisonous petrochemical pharmaceutical "medicine" are kept from the "COMMONERS?!" Is Encyclopedia Britannica merely a tool of propaganists and con-men? If the editor/writer of the little hit piece that Encyclopedia Britannica published had spent a moment or two browsing the Internet world wide web links that they themselves PROVIDED... they should have been able to come up with something more closely resembling reality - instead of what they published- what a shame apparently we need to count Encyclopedia Britannica as a source of DIS-information, mere political spin instead of balanced truthful, factual reporting. Who OWNS Encyclopedia Britannica? Has anyone noticed a widespread pattern of misrepresentation in Encyclopedia Britannica? Check it out- read Encyclopedia Britannica's entry on several items that you think are important and susceptible to elitist political DIS-information propaganda, and let's collate the results! http://www.eb.com/ If Encyclopedia Britannica is merely a propaganda and disinformation organ, we should spread the word... the Internet is a great communication tool (good for RESEARCH too, in case anyone is writing and Encyclopedia...) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Roger C Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:25 AM To: onlineclass Subject: Homeo Hit Piece What follows is Encyclopedia Brittanica's entire article on homeopathy. You may express your feelings by contacting the editor of EB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the plus side they do provide a lot of internet links. homeopathy, also spelled HOMOEOPATHY, a system of therapeutics, notably popular in the 19th century, which was founded on the stated principle that "like cures like," similia similibus curantur, and which prescribed for patients drugs or other treatments that would produce in healthy persons symptoms of the diseases being treated. This system of therapeutics based upon the "law of similars" was introduced in 1796 by the German physician Samuel Hahnemann (q.v.). He claimed that a large dose of quinine, which had been widely used for the successful treatment of malaria, produced in him effects similar to the symptoms of malaria patients. He thus concluded that all diseases were best treated by drugs that produced in healthy persons effects similar to the symptoms of those diseases. He also undertook experiments with a variety of drugs in an effort to prove this. Hahnemann believed that large doses of drugs aggravate illness and that the efficacy of medicines thus increases with dilution. Accordingly, most homeopathists believed in the action of minute doses of medicine. To many patients and some physicians, homeopathy was a mild, welcome alternative to bleeding, purging, polypharmacy, and other heavy-handed therapies of the day. In the 20th century, however, homeopathy has been viewed with little favour and has been criticized for focusing on the symptoms rather than on the underlying causes of disease. Homeopathy still has some adherents, and there are a number of national and international societies, including the International Homoeopathic Medical League, headquartered in Bloemendaal, Neth. Related Internet Links: Homeopathy Home Page Shirley's Wellness Cafe National Center for Homeopathy HomeoVia Welcome to Homoeopathy...the 21st Century Medicine Mother Nature's General Store Copyright 1994-1999 Encyclopædia Britannica DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] The history development of Secret Societies in the western tradition
Title: Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart The history development of Secret Societies in the western tradition A paper by Frater Choronzon first presented on Monday 22nd October 1990 to Philos-O-Forum at Bullfrog's Cafe Bar, Greenwich It has been said that "The history of the world is the history of the warfare between Secret Societies" (Robert(s) Shea Anton Wilson purportedly quoting one Ishmael Reed on the flyleaf of their tri-lateral masterpiece 'Illuminatus!'); it has also been said, attributably by Socrates, that "The Gods give us paranoia so that we may occasionally glimpse something of the truth". My experience is that one is rarely closer to a subjective appreciation of the axiom that "There can be no ultimate truth" than when attempting to research the origins of Secret Societies. The reality today is that these organisations can range from a handful of people performing magic rituals in a bricked-up railway arch, to an annual get-together of the cream of the worlds financiers and statespersons mapping out the economic and political destiny of the planet. The first of these groups style themselves the Bilderberg Conference, named after the block of council flats where they first met; the second group are a shadowy intercontinental organisation known as the Illuminates of Thanateros. This is precisely the sort of misinformation which a serious researcher has to contend with. If the misinformation is recent, the inconsistencies are easy to spot, but, after fifty, a hundred or a thousand years, it is more difficult. It is unusual to find objective material about Secret Societies. Most researchers are either endeavouring to demonstrate that a particular group (or groups) is (are) no more than an innocuous charitable benevolent club who like to maintain a level of anonymity to cloak their good works, or, on the other hand, to demonstrate that the same group(s) are responsible for every bloody revolution and heinous conspiratorial plot which has ever been perpetrated. Both objectives can be well served by producing evidence that the existence of the Secret Society or Societies in question can be traced back into antiquity. In order to try and introduce an element of objectivity into this exercise, I propose to isolate certain essential features which can be found across a spectrum of secret and/or secretive societies today. I shall then to attempt to trace manifestations of those features in various historical groups and/or orders in as far as reasonably reliable information appears to exist in the historical record. ORGANISATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF SECRET SOCIETIES One feature shared in common between many of today's Secret Societies, of both ritual/charitable and occult flavour is that of a membership structure consisting of graded or heirarchial degrees, The number of degrees can vary widely, even within different branches of the same society, as can the direction of numbering. For example, the Ordo Templi Orientis, on the evidence provided in Francis King's book "Secret Rituals of the OTO", appears to be structured into eleven principal degrees, headed by an individual described as the Outer Head of the Order (OHO) holding the eleventh degree. The OTO is not a homogeneous body, and there are at present at least two separate organisations purponing to represent the original tradition; each of these has its own OHO. Some degrees in the OTO have distinctive names, for example, according to the same source, the designation of new entrants to the organisation is to a zero degree named Minerval. By contrast, the Illuminates of Thanateros, a Chaos Magic "Pact", on the basis of an article published in 'Chaos International' Issue 3, appear to be headed by a Supreme Magus who holds the designation 0 Degree, while new entrants or Neophytes are admitted to the 4th Degree. One feature which both of these occult groups have in common is that they admit members of both sexes, and claim to have no policy of sexual preferrment in regard to promotion within the group. For all that, there is no evidence to suggest that either group has ever been headed by a female. The Order of the Golden Dawn, a magical group which flourished in this country for some 40 years prior to 1920, also admitted both male and female members with equal status. Though apparently dormant in the UK at this time, the Golden Dawn is known to be active in North America and there is evidence to suggest that a significant proponion of it's senior officers are female. [Note (1997): There is now understood to be a chartered Order of Golden Dawn Temple in London] Of the contemporary charitable/ritual societies, the most important ones in numerical terms, such as the United Grand Lodge Freemasons, are exclusively male oriented, although females may be admitted to subsidiary branch organisations. There is some cross-fenilisation of traditions
Re: [CTRL] Chaos Magick Paradigmal Piracy
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/25/99 8:52:04 PM, you wrote: M =3D G x L(1-A)(1-R) Pm =3D P - P x M 1/(1/-p) All factors are between 0 and 1. "Boquet" magick is simpler. 0=2;1+1=3;= MHO Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Celestial Railroad - Hobe Sound, Florida
-Caveat Lector- Howdy, Anyone out there got any info on the History of the Celestial Railroad? ANd the Towns of Jupiter, Neptune, Mars, Venus and Juno(old county seat for dade county for a couple of years) until moved to Miami-1891. Why the move etc. Are there other towns with names like that? Why the names? And then where are these towns in relationship to Jupiter Island? Bill, You live nearby? You know anything? Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UN Presses for Gun Control
-Caveat Lector- The hand held lasers that will melt concrete are just around the corner. Coming to a garage workshop near you. Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- U.N. Discusses Gun Control Measure By PETER JAMES SPIELMANN .c The Associated Press UNITED NATIONS (AP) - In a bid to curb civil wars, ethnic massacres and terrorism, the U.N. Security Council on Friday discussed an initiative by the U.N. chief to implement greater gun-control measures around the world. At the end of the first ministerial debate on small arms, council members called for new measures to discourage arms from reaching conflict zones and also called for effective implementation of arms embargoes. ``Small arms and light weapons are primary tools of violence in many conflicts taking place in the world,'' Annan told the council. ``The proliferation of small arms, ammunition and explosives has also aggravated the violence associated with terrorism and organized crime. ``Even in societies not beset by civil war, the easy availability of small arms has in many cases contributed to violence and political instability,'' he said. With at least 200 million firearms are owned by American citizens, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright announced the United States would refrain from sellings arms to war zones not already covered by arms embargoes. ``We encourage other nations to establish and observe such moratoria,'' she said. ``We have passed laws making it illegal for traffickers subject to American law to broker illicit deals anywhere. We ask others to crack down on brokering as well.'' British Foreign Minister Robin Cook told the Council: ``It is a tribute ... that nuclear weapons have never been used for half a century, and that chemical weapons have rarely been used. ``However, over the same period the assault rifle has become the weapon of mass killing. ... Over the last decade alone, conflicts fought with only small arms have killed over 3 million people, mostly civilians,'' Cook said. ``Five million dollars will buy approximately 20,000 assault rifles - enough to equip the army of a medium-sized state,'' he noted. The ministers met to discuss a report by Annan which recommended among other things: Better enforcement of U.N. arms embargoes on nations and regions in conflict. Nations should require arms manufacturers to put serial numbers and identification marks on weapons so the diversion of legitimate sales into the black market can be monitored. Nations should share information on the registration of guns and on legal transactions, in order to trace black market deals. Clinton, Reno Condemn Killings By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Americans must find a way to protect young people - ``as if it were our own children being targeted'' - President Clinton said Thursday as he and Attorney General Janet Reno decried the latest deadly shootings. ``Yet again, we have seen a sanctuary violated by gun violence, taking children brimming with faith and promise and hope before their time,'' Clinton told reporters at the White House. ``We know we have to redouble our efforts to protect our children,'' the president said. He expressed sadness for Wednesday's attack on Wedgwood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, where a gunman killed seven worshippers and wounded seven others before killing himself. ``We know we have to act as if it were our own children being targeted,'' Clinton said. Earlier, during her weekly briefing, Reno also deplored the carnage. ``The thought of gunfire in a place of worship should be inconceivable. But for families, for others last night, the inconceivable became a reality,'' she said. ``In 1999 alone, we have watched as innocent people were gunned down while attending school, while walking home from a church or synagogue, while playing at a summer camp, while working in their offices, while delivering mail and now while worshiping in their church,'' she said. Clinton, who has urged Congress to pass laws restricting sales at gun shows and requiring childproof locks, made no mention of gun control Thursday. But he said the attack underscores the need to address a rise in gun violence. ``We know that there is nothing we can do to assure that this will never happen,'' Clinton said. ``But there is a lot more we can do to assure it will happen more rarely. I can only hope that the shock of this event will spur that kind of action.'' Reno, meantime, said gun control must be among the steps to lessen violence. ``I would hope that people would look, not just at what handguns have done to America this year, not in the context of this case, but what handguns have done to America over the last many years, and that this nation would listen to its people who again and again cry out ... asking government to make sure that we take reasonable steps to ensure that guns are not placed in the hands of
[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary / Sept 26 / Diana Johnstone / Nazi Nosta
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Michael Albert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ZNet Commentary / Sept 26 / Diana Johnstone / Nazi Nostalgia Date sent: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:46:13 +0100 Here is today's ZNet Commentary Delivery from - NAZI NOSTALGIA IN CROATIA By Diana Johnstone When I visited Croatia three years ago, the book most prominently displayed in the leading bookstores of the capital city Zagreb was a new edition of the notorious anti-Semitic classic, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". Next came the memoires of the World War II Croatian fascist Ustashe dictator Ante Pavelic, responsible for the organized genocide of Serbs, Jews and Romany (gypsies) that began in 1941, that is, even before the German Nazi "final solution". However, if the Croatian fascists actually led, rather than followed, the German Nazis down the path of genocide, that doesn't mean they have forgotten their World War II benefactors. After all, it was thanks to Hitler's invasion of Yugoslavia that the "Independent State of Croatia" was set up in April 1941, with Bosnia-Herzegovina (whose population was mostly Serb at the time) as part of its territory. And the hit song of 1991, when Croatia once again declared its independence from Yugoslavia and began driving out Serbs, was "Danke Deutschland" in gratitude to Germany's strong diplomatic support for Zagreb's unnegotiated secession. In the West, of course, one will quickly object that the Germany of today is not the Germany of 1941. True enough. But in Zagreb, with a longer historical view, they are so much the same that visiting Germans are sometimes embarrassed when Croats enthusiastically welcome them with a raised arm and a Nazi "Heil!" greeting. So it should be no surprise that this year's best seller in Croatia is none other than a new edition of "Mein Kampf". This is not a critical edition, mind you, but a reverently faithful reproduction of the original text by that great European leader, benefactor of Croatian nationalism and leader of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler. The magazine "Globus" reported that "Mein Kampf" is selling like hotcakes in all segments of Croatian society. For those who want to read more, there is a new book entitled "The Protocols of Zion, the Jews and Adolf Hitler" by Mladen Schwartz, leader of the Croatian neo-Nazi party New Right, and "Talks with Hitler" by the Fuhrer's aide Herman Rauschning, as well as various other memoires celebrating the Ustashe state whose violent massacres of Serbs shocked the Italian fascist allies and even German diplomatic observers at the time. The dissident Croatian writer Predrag Matvejevic, who has Italian citizenship, has sent the Rijeka daily "Novi List" an open letter to the Association of Croatian Writers and the Croatian center of the International PEN club denouncing their failure to protest at this promotion of the absolute worst of racist Nazi propaganda. "Passing through the streets of Zagreb, Split, Dubrovnik and other cities in Croatia, countless Croatian citizens whose parents took part in the anti-fascist Partisan struggle are ashamed to see the works and photographs of Hitler and other Nazi and Ustashe criminals displayed in bookshop windows," he wrote. "Their publication is a disgrace to Croatia and its culture". This is "no accident", he said, "in Tudjman's Croatia." For this is the same regime, he noted, that has allowed the destruction of thousands of monuments to the victims of fascism, from one end of Croatia to the other, and in which mass is celebrated non-stop in honor of the Ustashe "fuhrer" Pavelic in the churches of Split and Zagreb, the Italian daily "Il Manifesto" reported on September 3. In another report in "Il Manifesto", Giacomo Scotti reported from Zagreb that the terrorist campaign by nationalist bands led by the neofascist "Croatian Party of Rights" has been stepping up its pogroms against the small number of Serbs now living in the Krajina region. The overwhelmingly Serb population was driven from the Krajina by the U.S.-backed "Operation Storm" in August 1995. Officially, under heavy international pressure, the Croatian government has allowed some Serbs to come back, mostly old farmers. However, on August 25, the Croatian Supreme Court denied local tribunals the right to hear complaints from citizens who had not been allowed to enter their property, thus encouraging lawlessness. With the complicity of the authorities, armed bands have been breaking into the few homes reoccupied by their Serb owners, beating and threatening old people and devastating their farms, chopping down trees and destroying crops to force them to leave. These facts are contained in two letters to the Croatian government from the Croatian Helsinki Committee for Human Rights. By now, however, it is abundantly clear to everyone that crimes of
[CTRL] Fate of Nations
-Caveat Lector- From www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/1999/448/in1.htm Egyptian view of things The fate of nations By Gamal Nkrumah Throughout modern history, and more than ever today, the cold-bloodedness of international diplomacy and its invariably tragic consequences weigh heavily upon those communities which seek to exercise their right to national self-determination from a position of weakness. Indeed, it is very much in vogue these days for the aspiration of one part of an existing nation to independence to be used as a pretext by another nation, or group of nations, to intervene militarily. Once the precedent has been established, however, then for the powerful, and the unembarrassable, the world is very much their oyster. Today, many peoples' dreams of national self-determination lies in ruins. But the lingering death of their just aspirations is of little or no concern to the powers that be. True, the West likes to make a big song and dance about preserving endangered cultures, and championing the causes of obscure ethnic groups. But behind this multi-cultural post-modern rhetoric, lies the politics of divide and rule. Those countries most susceptible to disintegration by such tactics are precisely those where nobody -- not even the elites and the establishment -- is in full control of the state. In such a situation, the way is open for mischief of the worst kind. The West, as is well known, once deliberately cultivated despicable regimes such as Suharto's Indonesia for their anti-Communist credentials, only to abandon them outright once the end of the Cold War was in sight. Mobutu's Zaire, now the war-torn Democratic Republic of Congo, is another case in point. "East Timor was not a big thing on our radar screen," former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger confessed recently. "You have to understand these things in the context of the period. Vietnam had just collapsed. Nobody yet knew what effect the domino theory would have. Indonesia was [...] a key country in Southeast Asia. We were not looking for trouble with Indonesia." International media commentators rarely publicise the fact that Indonesia's generals decided to invade East Timor less than 24 hours after Kissinger and former President Gerald Ford had visited Jakarta. "The Indonesians told us that they were going to occupy the Portuguese colony of Timor," Kissinger remembered. "To us that didn't seem like a very significant event." Washington may not have given the Indonesian army their marching orders, but it certainly turned a blind eye once it had given Jakarta the green light. Indeed, it went much further. Between 1995 and 1997, Britain exported some $100-million-worth of arms to Indonesia. Germany's share of this lucrative trade was $70 million, while America came first with $110-million-worth of deliveries. Once he had fallen from grace -- that is, once he had outlived his usefulness -- Suharto found himself catapulted into Washington's notorious gallery of international pariahs. The dejected dictator reacted by ordering the most brutal suppression of the Timorese independence forces, culminating in the Dili massacre of November 1991 -- the now infamous slaughter at the Santa Cruz cemetery. By then, however, the West's hands were as bloody as the Indonesians. "We are anticipating that there will be some disquiet at our arrival," the Australian commander of the UN-authorised force, Major-General Peter Cosgrove, told a press conference in the northern Australian city of Darwin, barely 400 kilometres from East Timor. And well might the East Timorese feel disquiet at the approach of their saviours. The Australians, who are now leading the UN intervention forces, have always maintained that an independent East Timor would be politically unviable, as well as an economic liability, and would most probably finish up utterly dependent on Australian aid and financial bailouts. Australia, of course, was the first and only country that officially recognised Indonesia's annexation of East Timor. As part of the 7,500-strong international peacekeeping force, they now find themselves pitted against the 50,000-strong pro-Indonesian militia of Euroco Guterres. It is Guterres who has been leading the campaign of terror which followed the announcement on 4 September of the results of the UN-sponsored referendum, in which 78.5 per cent of the territory's inhabitants opted for independence. Ominously, Gutteres warned the UN force that they were free to operate in the east of the island, but would not be tolerated in the fertile and mountainous western zones of East Timor close to the Indonesian border. These hills have long served as the strongholds of the militias. Thus, 13 districts have effectively been declared off limits to the International Force for East Timor (INTERFET). As the militias dig in to their positions, a disaster similar to those we have witnessed in
[CTRL] The Cult of Alcoholics Anonymous
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.rational.org/recovery/Cult.html A HREF="http://www.rational.org/recovery/Cult.html"The Cult of Alcoholics Anonymous/A - Embeds at site. Om K - Alcoholics Anonymous: Of Course It's a Cult! by Jack Trimpey For a number of years, Lois and I have been aggressive critics of Alcoholics Anonymous and its recovery group movement because we believe strongly that AA is a primary cause of mass addiction in America. We know that openly criticizing the 12-step program is enormously helpful to people who have struggled in recovery group bondage, and we also believe that the recovery group movement is harmful to American society. It is understandable that we have gained quite a reputation for AA-bashing. Many perceive Lois as a mild-mannered, cheerful person who is much more reserved about attacking the addiction system, and that I am a grumpy, old meanie with an ax to grind. Personalities aside, we are equally devoted to the dismantling of the addiction treatment industry, particularly its feeder system, the 12-step recovery group movement of Alcoholics Anonymous and its pop-psychology based spinoffs. We do not believe that these entities are capable of constructive change, and would better be replaced by our model of self-recovery or with nothing at all. Oddly, we have not, until now (January, 1998), taken a public position on the much-asked question, In spite of our outspokenness, we avoided the "C" word, i.e., "cult." It has seemed needlessly inflammatory to say that Alcoholics Anonymous is a cult - until now. Alcoholics Anonymous: Cult or Cure? is the title of a book by Chaz Bufe which examines the history, development and current practices of AA with that question in mind. Bufe applies seventeen criteria commonly used to define a cult from an academic viewpoint, but he equivocates, noting that AA does engage in some, but not all, typical cult practices. He concludes that AA is cultish in some ways but does not truly deserve the label, cult. In his revised edition of that book this year, Bufe continues to equivocate, admitting that institutional AA has cult status, but communal AA does not. Academic inquiry into the possible cult identity of Alcoholics Anonymous is just that - academic - and therein lies a chief weakness of the Bufe book. For decades, millions of people have suspected, believed, or known that Alcoholics Anonymous is religious. Anyone can see that it is religious, yet an entire nation has accepted its sophomoric disclaimer, "Not religious, just spiritual." Recently, however, the federal courts have asserted, "AA is unequivocally religious." They only looked at AA's doctrinal literature, and unhesitatingly declared what is obvious to anyone. No academicians determined that AA was religious; no academicians are going to divert the river of public cash away from addiction treatment into worthy projects. No academicians will steer the nation away from its unholy union with AA, nor will acedemecians solve the crisis of runaway, mass addiction. For the record, here is our position: Of course AA is a cult! AA is not only a religious cult, it is a radical cult, an evil cult, a widespread cult, and a dangerous cult. AA has become an engine of social decay posing as a noble, altruistic fellowship. Its perverse philosophy of sin-disease and deliverance by faith in an amorphous, heterogenous deity contradicts the fundamental values of a free society, but is uniquely appealing to people addicted to substance-pleasure. AA is a cancer on the soul of the nation, producing no pain to the populace as it eats away at the foundation of society. Its victims are its members who become grateful to their captors. AA is causing the problem is says it helps. Its 12-step program suggests nothing on how to quit an addiction except to stop trying, and its members come to love the cult more than than any newcomer. Each cult member shares a vision of a better world resulting from propagating the steps - but not from the effects of abstinence upon society. The AA cult has infiltrated our federal and state bureaucracies and now nests in every social institution, setting policies that funnel new members into its craw. It expands for its own sake, and cannot change from within. Therefore, it must be destroyed by forthright public education and expose. Lois and I rarely tell callers that AA is a cult; they tell us that it is. We look through a window into the soul of America, a window that is not available to others. At the national office, telephone calls are continuous every day, many from callers who have been trying to get through for days. It appears that our phone lines are two or three deep with callers at any given time, although we cannot determine how many are attempting to ring in at any moment. The calls are primarily from readers of Rational Recovery: The New Cure for Substance Addiction, calling to say thanks for making the vital information on planned abstinence
[CTRL] Internet Explorer 4 and 5 users
-Caveat Lector- Is this been happening to us? What do you think guysProblem, Reaction, Solution? Peter http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/ms99-037.asp - Original Message - Warning for Internet Explorer 4 and 5 users: "It is possible for a web site to invoke this method, bypass this restriction and write files that could be used to execute system commands." That means any Web site you visit could read or delete your files, or download and run viruses on your machine. Message just received from Microsoft: The following is a Security Bulletin from the Microsoft Product Security Notification Service. Please do not reply to this message, as it was sent from an unattended mailbox. Microsoft Security Bulletin (MS99-037) -- Patch Available for "ImportExportFavorites" Vulnerability Originally Posted: September 10, 1999 Re-released: September 24, 1999 Summary === On September 10, 1999, Microsoft released the original version of this bulletin, in order to provide a workaround for a security vulnerability in Microsoft(c) Internet Explorer 5 that could allow a malicious web site operator to take inappropriate action on the computer of a person who visited the site. Microsoft has completed a patch that completely eliminates the vulnerability, and has re-released this bulletin in order to advise customers of its availability. In addition to eliminating the "ImportExportFavorites" vulnerability, the patch also eliminates a security vulnerability posed by several ActiveX controls that ship as part of Internet Explorer 4.01 and 5. Frequently asked questions regarding this vulnerability can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/MS99-037faq.asphttp://www.micr osoft.com/security/bulletins/MS99-037faq.asp Issue = IE 5 includes a feature that allows users to export a list of their favorite web sites to a file, or to import a file containing a list of favorite sites. The method that is used to perform this function, ImportExportFavorites(), should only allow particular types of files to be written, and only to specific locations on the drive. However, it is possible for a web site to invoke this method, bypass this restriction and write files that could be used to execute system commands. The net result is that a malicious web site operator potentially could take any action on the computer that the user would be capable of taking. This vulnerability would chiefly affect workstations that are connected to the Internet. The patch restores correct operation to the ImportExportFavorites() method. In addition, the patch addresses security problems posed by several ActiveX controls. The specific controls and the actions taken are discussed in the FAQ. Affected Software Versions == - Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.01 and 5 Patch Availability == - Internet Explorer 4.01 for Intel: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usaftp://ftp.microsoft .com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usa/ IE401/ImportExportFavorites-fix/x86/q241361.exe - Internet Explorer 4.01 for Alpha: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usaftp://ftp.microsoft .com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usa/ IE401/ImportExportFavorites-fix/Alpha/q241361.exe - Internet Explorer 5 for Intel: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usaftp://ftp.microsoft .com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usa/ IE50/ImportExportFavorites-fix/x86/q241361.exe - Internet Explorer 5 for Alpha: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usaftp://ftp.microsoft .com/peropsys/ie/ie-public/fixes/usa/ IE50/ImportExportFavorites-fix/Alpha/q241361.exe NOTE: Line breaks have been inserted into the above URLs for readability. NOTE: The patch also will be available shortly via WindowsUpdate. When this happens, we will amend this bulletin to provide specific link information. More Information Please see the following references for more information related to this issue. - Microsoft Security Bulletin MS99-037: Frequently Asked Questions, http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/MS99-037faq.asphttp://www.micr osoft.com/security/bulletins/MS99-037faq.asp. - Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB) article Q241361, Update available to disable ActiveX controls and the ImportExport Security Issues, http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q241/3/61.asphttp://suppo rt.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q241/3/61.asp. (Note: It may take 24 hours from the posting of this bulletin for the KB article to appear) - Microsoft Security Advisor web site, http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.asphttp://www.microsoft.com/secu rity/default.asp. Obtaining Support on this Issue === Information on contacting Microsoft Technical Support is available at
[CTRL] http://www.ctrl.org
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.ctrl.org/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"Welcome to Conspiricy Theory Research List/A - Finally, Om K - Conspiracy Theory Research List (CTRL) This site has just been set up, so major construction will be taking place over the next few week. CHECK BACK OFTEN! Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS
- SNETNEWS Mailing List CC: It's the same old story - if the grassroots folks don't get involved it AIN'T GONNA WORK. - CC: The War on Drugs is about to be lifted up another rung. The hysteria has risen to the point where we may soon see soldiers in our streets - if the "border" troops miss someone, what is the next step; send them into the cities. I remember visiting Cuba as a young boy before Castro's revolution. I still have pictures I snapped of guys I thought were cops standing on street corners with machine guns hanging from their shoulders. I don't want to see that here. The terrible mistakes being made by our highly trained civilian drug forces should be reason enough not to bring the military into the fray. Army training, except at the highest levels, is highly incompetent. It's very difficult to "flunk" and when it happens the penalty is to be recycled back through the same sorry program again. This is a very dangerous step our congress is about to take. ** Washington, D.C. - A House-Senate conference agreement on the defense bill includes a provision directing the Pentagon to develop a plan on how the military can better assist law enforcement agencies in interdicting drugs along the border and stopping terrorists from entering the United States. The provision represents a modification of an amendment authored by U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant, Jr. (D-Ohio) that was attached to the House-passed version of the bill last June. The Traficant amendment authorized the use of U.S. troops to assist civilian law enforcement in patrolling the border. "Narcotics is still the number one problem in America," said Traficant, a former drug counselor and sheriff. "You can have all the counseling programs in the world and a million cops on the street, but unless we get serious about stopping drugs from pouring over the border, America will never win the war on drugs." Later today the House will consider the conference report on the fiscal year 2000 Defense Authorization Act. The measure authorizes $288.8 billion in fiscal year 2000 for defense programs. Last June the House approved an amendment sponsored by Traficant authorizing the use of U.S. troops to assist the Immigration and Naturalization Service and Customs Service in interdicting drugs at the border and apprehending terrorists attempting to enter the country. Under the Traficant amendment, which the House approved 242 to 180, the troops could only be deployed at the request of the Attorney General or Treasury Secretary. The amendment also required the troops to be under the command and control of a civilian law enforcement official, and that they receive law enforcement training. The amendment was similar to measures Traficant attached to the defense bill in 1997 and 1998. In both those years the amendment was dropped from the bill in conference with the Senate. The compromise provision included in the conference report directs the Secretary of Defense to prepare a plan to assign members of the armed forces to assist the INS or Customs Service in responding to a threat to national security posed by the entry into the U.S. of terrorists or drug traffickers. Like the Traficant amendment, the provision directs the Secretary to ensure that the plan does not violate the Posse Comitatus Act and that military personnel assigned to such activity receive law enforcement training. The Pentagon must submit a report to Congress no later than May 1, 2000 that includes the troops on the border plan, a risk-benefit analysis, recommendations on the functions most appropriate to be performed by military personnel in support of civilian law enforcement, and the total number of active and reserve armed service personnel who participated in drug interdiction or other civilian law enforcement support activities in fiscal year 1999. "For more than five years I've been fighting to get the military more involved in stopping drugs and terrorists from coming into America," said Traficant. "This language marks an important step forward in better securing our borders and protecting American citizens from the narco- terrorists. If the Pentagon can send troops to places like Haiti to vaccinate dogs, direct traffic and build homes, it certainly can send troops to our border to stop drug traffickers and terrorists," added Traficant who served as director of the Mahoning County (OH) drug program from 1971 to 1981, and Mahoning County sheriff from 1981 to 1985. CC: If our information is correct, this may also be in direct conflict with Canadian and Mexican treaties signed by the U.S. which guaranteed our borders would not be patrolled by the military. - Cowboy "Just killing time until the revolution"
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Cokeheads' Country
-Caveat Lector- WALL STREET JOURNAL writers need to go back to college and re-take Econ 1A Treat cocaine like soybeans.. that eliminates the $1 billion War On Drugs, reduces the need for a massive prison system (70% are drug cases) , keeps the US Military at home. What massive intervention does is keep the price above equilibriumand who gains from that policy? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Colonel Death
Uri, Most excellent! For your information, Alexander wrote a private email to me, where he stated that his writing on the "dangers of the Internet" and the threat to mankind of internet paranoia and conspiracy theory is perhaps best represented by me. That was an awfully sweat endorsement on his part. The stuff on David Morehouse was great, and kind of fit my understanding of him. My pal Greg Bishop of the Excluded Middle interviewed Morehouse, and came away fairly convinced he was an honest, decent fellow. As for Alexander, I've met him twice: I think I even gave him a Kirby Koffee Mug. In person, he was extremely polite (as was I), and we were quite amicable. Still, considering I stand in the way of his involvement in a plot for world domination, our discussions ultimately had the feel of Bond chatting over dinner with Dr. No before No orders his henchman to kill Bond. Robert Sterling Offline Illumination Spooky Boys With Spooky Toys by Uri Dowbenko Future War: Non-Lethal Weapons in Twenty-First Century Warfare by Colonel John B. Alexander, US Army (Retired) (1999, St. Martin's Press, 254 pp.. $24.95) Colonel John Alexander never met a war he didn't like. As an unofficial spokesman for the Military-Industrial Complex, Alexander has written a book called Future War in which he continues to ply his trade -- promoting war -- and most importantly advocating those all-important expendables called "weapons systems." The oxymoronic "non-lethal weapons" which Alexander touts are anything but. They include exotic systems like electromagnetic weapons, chemical and biological warfare, so-called physical restraints like goop guns, etc., acoustic weapons, as well as information warfare technologies, which include good old-fashioned military propaganda -- like his book itself. Without questioning the wrong-headed abstruse US Government policies of war-making, he includes a brief history of War's Greatest Hits in a chapter called "Are We the World's Police Force?" Alexander's answer is an unequivocal yes. These include -- Restore Hope: Somalia; United Shield: Somalia Round II; Uphold Democracy: Haiti; Bosnia; The Idaho Rebellion (just kidding). Internet Bashing In a chapter called "Information Warfare," Alexander sounds the alarm about -- you guessed -it -- the "dangers of the Internet." You see, those nasty hackers, crackers and phrackers are out to get the Information Infrastructure. How do we know? Alexander says so. "It is predicted that anti-hacker software sales will increase from $1.1 billion in 1995 to greater than $16 billion in 2000," he writes. "The President's Committee of Critical Infrastructure Protection noted the increased likelihood of computer terrorism and recommended that research and development, now $250 million annually, should be increased $100 million per year until $12 billion is provided on a yearly basis." No matter what the "security" problem, all we need to do is spend more taxpayer dollars on the Military-Industrial Complex. Secret Life of John Alexander Virtually disregarded in this book is Alexander's spooky background as a Psy0ps (or psychological operations) expert, as well as a psychic warfare- mind control operative. According to Alex Constantine, author of Virtual Government (Feral House, 1997), Colonel John Alexander has displayed a long term interest in the paranormal and "has actively promoted psychic metal bending among government personnel using the techniques pioneered by Jack Houck of McDonnell-Douglas." Before his "retirement," Alexander had a 32-year career in the Army, including a stint as director of Advanced Systems Concepts Office, US Army Laboratory Command Alexander was also chief of the Advanced Human Technology Office Security Command (INSCOM) and ran the "non-lethal" weapons lab at Los Alamos in New Mexico. Alexander allegedly also has a doctor's degree in thanatology, the science of death. British reporter Armen Victorian concludes that John B. Alexander is an active operative assigned to a covert military group "specializing in dissemination of disinformation," collectively known as the "Aviary." In a recent interview, David Morehouse, author of Psychic Warrior, (St. Martin's Press, 1996) reports that "Alexander was a Special Forces officer in Vietnam who commanded a Montagnard battalion. Others say he was a member of the Phoenix Project [the notorious CIA assassination program]. When he came out, he worked with the intelligence community and he never left." Later Alexander led a CIA harassment campaign against Morehouse. Alexander, the "retired" colonel working for the CIA, Jim Schnabel and Joe McMoneagle were all actively involved in spreading disinformation Campaign against him on the Internet, says Morehouse. Politically Incorrect Warrior And why was Morehouse harassed? Morehouse was a whistleblower who wrote a book called Non Lethal Weapons: War Without Death (1996, Greenwood Publishing) with a politically
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- They are true.. there is a couple of sites on my links page about them Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:13 PM Subject: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? ___ The Dropa Stones A HREF="http://paranormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm"http://par an ormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm/A Records of Past Civilizations - A HREF="http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm"http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm/A Such records have indeed been found ... in China. These were contained in a large number of peculiar stone disks discovered in some underground repositories in the Himalayas near the border of Tibet. The discovery of the disks was made in 1938 by Professor Chi Pu Tei, an archeologist who was leading students on an expedition into the Bayan Kara Ula Mountains in the then-disputed frontier territory of Tibet and China. Professor Chi Pu Tei and his students discovered what was first described as a series of caves, but later admitted to be a complex system of artificial tunnels and underground storerooms. These tunnels were perfectly squared and the walls, ceilings and floors were highly glazed, as if the passages and rooms were carved by a device emitting heat of such intensity that it simply melted its way into the mountains. The archeological group followed some of these passages and encountered larger chambers in which numerous un-described implements were discovered. The implements evidently differed from one chamber to another, but one item was found in common in each of the chambers -- the stone disks mentioned earlier. In each chamber, they were found in the same position -- on a smooth cube of rock, glazed just as the tunnels were, with anywhere from seven to 20 of the disks neatly stacked on top. Each disk was 22.7 cm (9 inches) in diameter and 2 cm (3/4 inch) thick. Each disk also had a perfectly circular 2 cm hole in the exact center. The outside edges were regularly indented all the way around, almost like the fluting on a pie crust. Each disk also had a twin groove which began at the center hole and gradually moved in an expanding counterclockwise spiral to the outer rim. The individual disks thus bore a certain similarity to the phonograph records of today. All of the disks -- a total of 716 -- were removed and taken for study to the Peking Academy of Prehistory. Nothing was heard about this discovery by Western scientists for the next 27 years. During that period, the disks were being studied intensively by Professor Tsum Um Nui. The Bayan Kara Ula Mountains area is one of the most isolated and least known areas on Earth today. The nearest city of any consequence is Lhasa, Tibet, about 400 miles to the south through virtually impassable terrain. It is an area presently inhabited by two tribes of very unusual people. The tribes call themselves Dropa and Han, and simply do not fit into any racial category established by anthropologists. For one thing, they are both of pygmy stature. The tallest and shortest adults have measured 4' 7" and 3'6" respectively, but the average height is 4'2". They are yellow-skinned. Their heads are disproportionately large and sparsely haired, and their eyes are large but not Oriental in aspect, with pale bluish irises. Their features are very nicely formed, most nearly approximating Caucasian, and their bodies are extremely thin and delicate. Adult weight is estimated to average about 38 to 52 pounds. The disks underwent extensive study by Professor Tsum Um Nui, interrupted at times by war. It took him and his coworkers only a short time to discover that the spiral grooves were not sound tracks but, rather, an incredibly ancient writing inscribed in some unknown way and very nearly microscopic in size. The disks were determined to be no less than 3,000 or 4,000 years old at the youngest, and more likely anywhere from 8,000 to 12,000 years old. This would make them the oldest known form of writing in the world. Deciphering was incredibly difficult. It took 24 years -- until 1962 -- before Professor Nui and a young colleague found the key and began deciphering=2E The deciphered spiral text of the stones, even though only a small amount was completed, was so
[CTRL] US Tie to Russian Money Scam
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/092399b.html A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/092399b.html"The Consortium/A - September 23, 1999 US Tie to Russian Money Scam By Robert Parry Better late than never, the major U.S. news media has discovered that a major financial scandal has been brewing in the former Soviet Union. To its credit, The New York Times picked up on earlier work by journalist Robert Friedman and reported on massive Russian money transfers into the Bank of New York. But what has been missing from the coverage is a coherent history of the long-standing relationship between one of the bank's principals and U.S. intelligence activities. On Aug. 22, the Times even published a lengthy profile on Bruce Rappaport, a Swiss-Israeli businessman behind the Bank of New York, but left out Rappaport's role in U.S. covert operations during the Reagan administration. The Times profile began promisingly enough. "At the intersection of illicit Russian money and the Bank of New York is Bruce Rappaport, a Swiss banker who has had brushes with governmental investigators in the past and who has long had an important connection to the bank," the article stated. "Together with the Bank of New York, Mr. Rappaport owns a bank in Switzerland that helped provide the American bank with important business contacts in Russia, according to Western bankers familiar with the operation." The Times then wondered "why the Bank of New York, a conservative institution that is one of the nation's oldest banks, worked closely with a man who has frequently drawn the attention of government regulators and law-enforcement officials worldwide." In an apparent effort to answer that question, the article sketched Rappaport's biography from his birth in Haifa, now part of Israel, through his founding of Inter-Maritime Bank in Geneva to his acquisition of the Bank of New York. But left out was an important piece of the mystery: Rappaport's close relationship to Israel's Labor Party, the Reagan administration and U.S. intelligence. That history makes for an interesting story in its own right, but also helps explain the network of powerful connections that Rappaport used to build his international financial empire and position his bank to profit off Russia's billions of dollars. In the 1980s, Rappaport emerged as an important financial conduit for both Tel Aviv and Washington. Some of Rappaport's influence apparently stemmed from his personal relationship with CIA director William J. Casey. The two were frequent golfing partners. By the end of the decade, Rappaport had been linked to some of the Reagan administration's most controversial actions. These included: the Iran-contra affair; an Israeli bribery case that involved a U.S.-backed oil pipeline in Iraq; the scandal over the Bank of Credit and Commerce International; a curious shipment of weapons through a melon farm in Antigua to Colombian cocaine kingpins; and the October Surprise mystery, the allegations that the 1980 Reagan campaign sabotaged Carter's negotiations to free 52 American hostages held in Iran. In BCCI-related testimony in 1991, President Carter's former budget director Bert Lance described a peculiar overture from Rappaport in the early 1980s. Out of the blue, Rappaport sought Lance out and arranged a series of meetings. Rappaport left the impression that he "was interested in if I or anyone around Carter was pursing the October Surprise," Lance told a Senate investigation. [AP, Oct. 23, 1991] In the late 1980s, as suspicions about the October Surprise caper grew, Rappaport entered the picture again. His Bank of New York cooperated with a politically sensitive Customs sting that entrapped and discredited several individuals familiar with Casey's activities during the 1980 presidential campaign. The sting rounded up a small band of international businessmen on charges of plotting to sell 1,000 pistols to Chile, which was then on the U.S. embargo list because of human rights concerns. The defendants argued that they were targeted because of past business dealings with Casey's close friend, John Shaheen, who had known Casey since World War II when both men served in the OSS, the forerunner of the CIA. After he died in 1985, Shaheen was identified as a key middleman for Republican overtures to the Iranian government in 1980. Barry Brokaw, a Shaheen associate arrested in the Customs sting, said he was struck by the investigators' strong interest in what he and his wife, who had been Shaheen's secretary, "knew about Iran-contra or October Surprise." Kenneth Walker, a Canadian nabbed in the sting, complained that he was arrested unfairly as part of a Bush administration effort to assess where Reagan-Bush insiders might be vulnerable from the October Surprise case. In 1992, Walker filed suit in Canada naming the U.S. government and the Bank of New York as defendants. Walker charged that the Bank of New York supplied him with
[CTRL] ClintonÕs ÔInfo-WarÕ Underload
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/092399a.html A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/092399a.html"The Consortium/A - September 23, 1999 Clintons Info-War Underload By Robert Parry President Clinton's covert action to use high-tech "information warfare" to undermine Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic proved less effective than hoped because of poor on-the-ground intelligence, U.S. government sources say. The CIA planned to pinpoint bank accounts controlled by Milosevic and other Serb leaders. Then, CIA hackers were to penetrate bank computers and alter or delete data. The goals were to sow confusion, frustrate the purchase of military equipment, and punish Serb leaders for "ethnic cleansing" in Kosovo. But the key first step was to identify the Serb government accounts in international banks, a task that the sources said proved more difficult than expected because of limited intelligence within the Serb government. In other words, high-tech info-war strategies were undercut by the lack of lower-tech human intelligence inside Serbia, spies who could pass on account numbers to the CIA, according to the sources. One source added, however, that the end of NATO's bombing campaign in Yugoslavia did not stop the covert action against Milosevic and his government. This continued operation, therefore, still could achieve some of the high-tech goals and presumably weaken Milosevic's political position inside Serbia. Using less exotic means, the Clinton administration's info-war strategies did achieve other goals of disrupting Serbia's communications and electronic infrastructure. On May 2, for instance, NATO took out a Yugoslavian electrical grid by dropping "soft" bombs of carbon filament on a power plant, shorting out circuits and turning off electricity. Maj. Gen. Charles Wald noted that such an electrical outage "disconnects and confuses computers." These infrastructure attacks had the additional effect of adding to the everyday frustrations of Serb citizens. NATO believed that those annoyances dampened support for Milosevic's military campaign against ethnic Albanians in the province of Kosovo. But most analysts believe that Russian political pressure was the primary factor in convincing Milosevic to accept NATO's peace terms in June. [For details on U.S. info-war capabilities and Clinton's covert action in Serbia, see iF Magazine, May-June 1999.] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LEXREX
-Caveat Lector- Folks, Be Informed! Bard Mission Statement "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives." - James Madison (Letter to W.T. Barry, August 4, 1822) A private, independent, research and educational organization, LEXREX http://www.lexrex.com/ seeks to enlighten, inform, and empower the American people, and/or any other people, in order that they may be effectively self governed according to original American political philosophies and Constitutional law. Our goal is nothing less than a people who will accept only the total liberty with responsibility envisioned by our rugged founding generation. The result of the American people throwing off the chains of co-dependence with a growth-industry government will be a government truly obedient to the People and reduced to its Constitutionally limited size; a government once again, of law, and not of men in other words, a government whose policies are entirely within the bounds of its governing Constitution and laws, without exception, deception, coercion, subterfuge, evasion or sophistry. We think, but we are not a "think tank." We maintain that almost all, if not all of our contemporary political and social problems would be eliminated by strict adherence to existing written laws made pursuant to the Constitution. The conspicuous absence of real Constitutional dialogue in full historical context is evidence enough to the honest scholar and true patriot that something is terribly wrong. The popular discussion of government policies in a vacuum of underlying lawful authority ranges from ignorance, wickedness and laziness, through disingenuous manipulation, to treachery. "An ignorant people are easily betrayed, and a wicked people can never be ruled by the mild influence of their own laws." - Stansbury, 1828 The solution: LEXREX will continue to provide exceptionally comprehensive documentation regarding American history, law, Constitution and political philosophy, from a vast array of deliberately or ignorantly neglected sources, in order to elevate every concerned citizen to a level of intelligent and well-informed Constitutional and political dialogue and fully engaged constructive citizenship. All original content on this Website copyright ©1998 at Common Law by LEXREX. All rights reserved. Please contact the Webmaster with questions, comments, and suggestions. Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ..standing up to [Marxist] teacher unions.
-Caveat Lector- Bauer: Home Schoolers on 'Cutting Edge' of Education U.S. Newswire 24 Sep 15:30 Bauer Says Home Schoolers on 'Cutting Edge' of American Education To: National Desk, Political and Education reporters Contact: Tim Goeglein of Bauer for President 2000, 703-933-2000; Web site: http://www.bauer2k.com WASHINGTON, Sept. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer, in an address to the Home School Legal Defense Association at Constitution Hall here today, said that home school families are on the cutting edge of American education, and that all families need and deserve a major tax cut. Bauer said it is unfair for families to continue to pay taxes, while corporations pay none. "Parents are children's foremost authority, and their first and best teachers," said Bauer. "They should decide how and where their children will be educated. Washington-based one-size-fits-all federal education programs cannot substitute for the love and care of parents. "The home schooling movement gains legitimacy every day because it is truly on the cutting edge of American education. These good and decent people are educating their children in such a way that, when tested, the kids often go two, three, and sometimes four grade levels ahead of other students at the same age. "American families are doing great things, and they need even more freedom from government. Families deserve to keep more of their hard-earned tax dollars, and they need that tax relief immediately. American families deserve a 16 percent flat tax and an immediate 20 percent cut in the payroll tax. "At least one of my GOP rivals says that families should continue to pay taxes while corporations pay none. I say that reasoning is backward. It is time to level the playing field: if families pay taxes, so should corporations. That is basic fairness," said Bauer. Bauer served as undersecretary of education and later chief domestic policy advisor to President Reagan. "When I served as undersecretary of education with Bill Bennett in the Reagan Administration, I saw first hand how destructive the federal bureaucracy is to our education system. I believe that the most important thing we can do to improve education in America is to take power away from the government and give it back to parents. Home schooling is just one avenue where that happens. "For too long, government bureaucrats and teachers' unions have dictated education policy from Washington, often omitting children's most important advocates, their parents. As a result, our children's learning has taken a back seat to increasing bureaucratic control. If elected President, I will begin to reform America's education system and back programs and methods, like home schooling, that work overwhelmingly," said Bauer. Unlike the Republican and Democratic Party front-runners, Bauer has committed to eliminating the U.S. Department of Education. Bauer is also committed to giving parents a choice in how their children are education by backing tuition tax credits; ensuring that taxpayer dollars get to the classroom not the bureaucracy; ending federal testing and national standards as one more way for Washington to dictate education policies to local school districts; and standing up to teacher unions. -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 09/24 15:30 Copyright 1999, U.S. Newswire http://www.newsindex.com/cgi-bin/resulttick.cgi?http://www.usnewswire.com/to pnews/Current_Releases/0924-125.htm Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] REALLY scary mind control
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/24/1999 5:45:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's got to be an explanation Great trick...Just pay attention to the cards that are replaced, rather than the card which appears to be missing. While watching for your "own" card to disappear, all of the *other* cards are ALSO changed. Of course "your" card is missing EVERY SINGLE card has been changed. The "mind control" here, is counting upon the mindset of the mark, who is amazed that their "single" card is gone. This occurs because they have not noticed that ALL the cards have been changed, as the webpage author has cleverly chosen J, Q, and K face cards, as well as a series of 7's and 8's which are not easily distinguished--one from another; (unless you are looking for the change). Tsadowq DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards
-Caveat Lector- So what if the death penalty deters? Steven Goldberg National Review, June 30, 1989 v41 n12 p42(2) Opponents of the death penalty have many reasons for their opposition that innocent people may be executed, that the death penalty is 'uncivilized',- that the state should not take lives. But what these arguments come down to is. DOES THE THREAT of the death penalty deter people from murderous behavior more than the threat of imprisonment for life? We do not yet know with anything even approaching certainty whether the death penalty does or does not deter. The question is clearly empirical; and it is likely that sophisticated statistical techniques will eventually permit us an answer. Professor Isaac Ehrlich and his colleagues, utilizing his statistical techniques, argue that there can be little doubt about the ability of the death penalty to deter. Ehrlich concludes that each additional execution prevents about seven or eight people from committing murder. All statistical arguments on the death penalty are, however, excruciatingly complex. Some critics, for example, have argued that increased likelihood of execution leads juries to convict fewer people, thereby offsetting the deterrent effect. If anything, the empirical evidence is that the death penalty does deter. But this is inevitably open to dispute. As a result, firm conclusions that the death penalty either does or does not deter are unwarranted and usually determined by one's psychological and moral leanings. In academic and media circles, psychological and moral resistance to the idea of the death penalty usually leads to the assertion that it does not deter. These people's conclusion may or may not be correct, but it does not follow from the arguments they deploy. Since many murders result from emotional impulse (e.g., the angry husband who kills his wife), the death penalty could have, at best only the slightest deterrent effect, If the death penalty deters, it is likely that it does so through society's saying that certain acts are so unacceptable that society will kill someone who commits them. The individual internalizes the association of the act and the penalty throughout his life, constantly increasing his resistance to committing the act. Note that there is no implication here that the potential murderer consciously weighs the alternatives and decides that the crime is worth life in prison, but not death. No serious theory of deterrence claims that such rational calculation of punishment (as opposed to no rational calculation, or calculation only of the probability of getting caught) plays a role. There is no a priori reason for assuming that this process is less relevant to emotional acts than rational acts; most husbands, when angry, slam doors, shout, or sulk. Neither the death penalty nor anything else deterred the husband who did murder his wife, so the question is not what deterred the person who did murder (nothing did), but what deterred the person who didn't. If the death penalty deters, it is, in all likelihood, primarily because it instills a psychological resistance to the act, not because it offers a rational argument against committing the act at the time that the decision is being made. In short, it is only legislators who calculate (or at least should calculate) the deterrent effect of the death penalty. Potential murderers simply act; the deterrent effect of the death penalty, if there is one, acts upon them. If it acts with sufficient strength, it prevents their becoming murderers. The legislator is the physicist studying the forces that move particles; the potential murderers are the moving particles. There is no evidence that the death penalty deters. This is simply untrue. Ehrlich's complex statistical techniques establish a real case that the death penalty deters. But here let us assume, for argument's sake, that there was no such evidence. The more important point is that there is a crucial difference between there being no evidence that two things are correlated and there being evidence that two things are not correlated. The latter means that we have good evidence that the two things are not related; the former means simply that we have no evidence on either side of the case. Now, it is quite true that we must have some sort of evidence in order to even entertain the idea that two things are related. Our reason for not believing that tall Italian men are smarter than short Italian men is not simply that we have no direct evidence, but also because we have no informal evidence suggesting that this is true-and so we do not bother to even investigate the possibility. It is the lack of relevant informal evidence that permits us to ignore the difference between not having evidence that the hypothesis is true and having evidence that the hypothesis is not true. But, in the case of penalties, we have an enormous
Re: [CTRL] Cuba: Show Me The Money!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.angelfire.com/fl/cubabrains/spain1878.html Cuba and World History Spain (1868-78),Rothschild,and Freemason-s Cuba (1895),Rockefeller,Russian Revolution,the Maine Presidents Estrada 1902 and Gomez 1908,and J.P.Morgan Pres.Menocal(1912),Who Owned The Mills,Sugar Arithmetics Zayas 1920 and Machado 1924,The Chase,Anti-Catholic-ism Grau-Mendieta-Gomez-Laredo-Batista 1933-1944,Hebrews Presidents Grau and Prio 1944-52,Social Democrats,and Catholics Dictator Batista 1952-58,Who Is The Richest In The World Castro To 1958,Rockefeller's Cold War Castro After 1958,And Population Limits Apocalypse Cuba and Financial Derivatives Cuba And World History SYMBIOSIS OF WAR MAIN THESIS It can not be a coincidence that the States created after 1945 are the same number, 158, as the Declarations of War received by the Allies in Britain's World War (1939). Each Declaration was a contract to be redeemed after the war creating a new State or re-establishing one destroyed by Germany using the Declarations they received in McKinley's war (1894-1918). The new States were mostly done in territories the British Empire ceded in order to get the other powers involved and survive the event. There was a SYMBIOSIS between the Communist-s and the Allies. Our involvement placed us in a direct confrontation with the Russian Empire. Roosevelt never imagined 10 years after taking his decision intercontinental missiles were going to be deployed. Evidence that it can not be a coincidence 1. Britain received 12 Declarations including those of Australia, Canada and New Zealand. These were redeemed creating the only 12 monarchy-s established after 1945. 2. USSR received 47 including those of Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Cuba, Nicaragua, Croatia, Slovakia, and Yugoslavia for whom they negotiated. These were redeemed by creating 47 States which bought their weapons and were socialist. 3. USA received 99 with those of : Japan, Manchu-kuo, Thai, Greece, Finland, France, Italy, Netherlands, Guatemala, Haiti, and South Africa for whom they negotiated. These were redeemed by creating 99 States of "Free Enterprise". 4. There were only 39 States not destroyed by Germany nor by the redemption of the Declarations of War of the Allies. A review of the history of the war of 1939 can certify these states were the only ones not destroyed because their distance from the conflict. Germany made their 22 invasions redeeming the 22 Declarations they received in the war of 1914. Stalin even demanded symbiotic latent help for converting free states to Communist ones. For example in Cuba Ruben F.Batista Zaldivar; promoted by an invasion of Roosevelt's Navy in 1933; did a symbiotic transfer to his godson Raul Castro and left the country before the supposed rebels had taken any important military base. This was similar to when Jack Brissot and Broglie did a symbiotic transfer to the supporters of Napoleon in the French Revolution to begin the deadliest war until 1800. It was similar to the symbiotic transfer Kerensky did to Lenin in the Russian Revolution when he gave him the Winter Palace and went to live in New York. Kerensky's family were friends of Lenin and he left the Winter Palace in an American Embassy car. Berlin's Army in cohort with Lenin threatened the Russians with terror until they placed Kerensky in power. There was a"fiasco" invasion of France Bay of "Quiberon" which remind us of the "fiasco" of Bay of Pigs in Cuba and the "fiasco" U.S. invasion of Siberia in Lenin's Revolution. They all helped consolidate their supposed opponent. Huguenot Rockefeller-s And Rothschild-s The Russian and Cuban Revolutions had other common factors, Rockefeller and Rothschild. In the Russian Revolution Rockefeller and Standard Oil in 1926 became the sole export agent of the 3
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- The fascists also agree with the liberals and radicals. John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ CIRCLE SUPPERS. As liberals and radicals, we are trained from day one of our freshman year of college that religion, particularly Christianity, is the most destructive force the world has ever known. It is evil incarnate, inspiring evil deeds the world over. http://www.wench.com/features/circle/ : Is religion evil, good, ambiguous, unknowable? Were you trained to regard religion in any light? Can you be reprogrammed? Do you inspire evil deeds?? _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- BraveNewChina - eugenics redux: http://christianity.net/bc/9B5/9B5028.html Its nice to know that communism can also return to its roots. The first fabians such as HG Wells, GB Shaw, plus the family planning lady, Winston Churchill were all into compulsory sterilisation. If they go back much further they will be promoting vril power (but I wouldnt think that had anything to do with chi power) John DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ClintonÕs ÔInfo-WarÕ Underload
-Caveat Lector- SAME OLD PROBLEMS...the carbon filament bomb was the most ingenious... you can have unlimited information but its useless unless you know how to use it. Emphasis seems to have been on low leverage situations, Mickey Mouse stuff. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Secret Signs of Local Cop
Stickers may lead to mass confusion with cops Now that the "cover" is blown, these small stickers, could be used to send the "wrong message" by Alex Hutchings, Jr. Arkansas Chronicle Staff Writer The hour is late and the Little Rock city cops driving along I-40 in Little Rock are on the prowl for drunks behind wheels. A car accelerates rapidly up the on-ramp, pulling ahead of the police cruiser by about three blocks. Then, the car accelerates rapidly and hops into the far left lane where it soon reaches a speed of over eighty miles per hour. The cops accelerate quickly too. Just as they get about 50-feet off the bumper of the speeding Chevy, the driver of the police car trips a switch that turns the expressway into a moving light show of high intensity blue and white light. His partner reaches for the microphone to call in the tag number of the traffic stop when his trained eye spots a familiar sign - a small black sticker in the driver side rear window - with a thin blue line through it. He places the mike back in the holder as both vehicles cruise to the shoulder. The driver of the police car chuckles as he exits his vehicle. He stands behind his door and shouts a friendly greeting at the other driver - telling him to try to keep his car off the telephone poles tonight. And with that, what would otherwise be a serious DUI investigation traffic stop turns into a chuckle. Whether or not the driver of the suspect vehicle really, truly was a police officer may now become a bit of a mystery to the Little Rock police officers who turned the suspect loose. It seems that one of the best kept secrets of law enforcement is not such a secret after all. Devised as a silent means of alerting other police officers that the car bearing the "thin blue line" sticker was driven either by a cop or member of the immediate family, the stickers have been popping up on private cars owned by cops from coast to coast over the last year. The origin of the stickers, which are often as not distributed via police supply stores, is a mystery. No police department or agency would comment on the stickers or use of them by their officers. Despite the wall of silence, cruising the parking lot of several police departments yielded dozens of examples in Little Rock, Tulsa, Atlanta and Dallas where private cars owned by cops are adorned with the subtle little sticker. One police equipment supplier in Little Rock said he gives the stickers out for free - but only to persons he personally knows to be law enforcement officers. "The big deal used to be the 'Fraternal Order of Police' license tag medallions. But that tells everybody you're a cop. Besides, anyone can get one now. The 'thin blue line' stickers came up as a way to let other cops know that you're an off duty cop - or the spouse of one." State regulations in Arkansas do not prohibit the placing of such stickers on a vehicle, so, it's apparently possible for anyone: cops, law-abiding citizens, habitual drunks or drug-traffickers to place such a sticker on their vehicle, thereby perhaps eliminating unwanted scrutiny resulting from their personal driving eccentricities. One Arkansas State Police official claimed he had never heard of the stickers, but, a street level cop in Little Rock said, "I'ts not exactly a 'management' sort of thing. It's a clue for street cops and detectives to be on the lookout for in case you or whoever is driving your car is broke-down and needs help maybe." Whatever the reason, if the stickers proliferate, the result may be widespread "cop confusion," at least until they can devise a new "secret sign." http://ar-chronicle.com/NationalNews.htm
Re: [CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Sean McDougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mosquito as Metaphor: Why Giuliani is Gassing NY Mosquito As Metaphor: Giuliani Gasses NY There's nothing uncharacteristic about Mayor Giuliani's decision to turn NYC into a poison gas ghetto. Dousing eight million men, women and children with poison gas in order to eradicate encephalitis mosquitoes that so far are unproven to even exist shows the low regard our Mayor has for human life. OF course, the pesticide used, Malathion, is NOT a gas, it's an aerosol spray, particulates suspended in a volatile solution; this distinction may be too subtle for some propagandists. And not all of New York is being sprayed, just the City. So a more accurate headline would be: GIULIANI DOSES NYC. SkeptiLinks: # EIJ Winter 94: Organic Farmers VS. Malathion http://www.earthisland.org/journal/malathion.html @ Utilization sans risque du malathion http://www.ns.doe.ca/french/epb/factsheets/pesticides/malat.html % translation: http://translator.go.com/search_trans?url=http%3A//www.ns.doe.ca/french/epb/ factsheets/pesticides/malat.html @ Later's Product Info Bulletin - Malathion 50 Insect Spray http://www.laters.com/labels/malathio.htm @ Malathion - What is it - "Increased Frequency of Specific Genomic Deletions Resulting from Malathion Exposure." http://www.n-i.com/NCchem/malathion.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY
-Caveat Lector- What hasn't gotten much press outside of the kite-flying community is Guliani's crackdown on kite flyers, banning kite flying in most of NYC's parks...he claims it's a hazard... :-7 June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FBI; NWO; NYC; JFK
-Caveat Lector- ~~~ U.S. NEWS ~~~ KILLING SUSPECT SETS RECORD ON FBI LIST The year was 1981. The U.S. hostages in Iran were free. President Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II had both survived assassination attempts. It was the same year that the FBI placed Donald Eugene Webb on its list of 10 most wanted fugitives. As of September 24, Webb, a thief and master of assumed identities, broke the record for remaining on the list longer than anyone else in its nearly 50-year history. Man wanted in Pennsylvania town's first slaying http://cnn.com/US/9909/25/most.wanted.record/index.html GERMAN FLIERS SURVIVE TRAINING CRASH IN NEW MEXICO Four fliers from the German air force survived a mid-air collision over the New Mexico desert Friday, Pentagon officials and state authorities said. The crews of the two Tornado jet fighters were rescued after bailing about 12 miles northwest of Carlsbad. "I understand there was a mid-air collision," New Mexico State Police Sgt. Rick Anglada said. Pilots called for help from nearby ranch http://cnn.com/US/9909/25/new.mexico.crash/index.html ENCEPHALITIS OUTBREAK SPREADS IN NEW YORK A 90-year-old woman who lives near Central Park has the first confirmed case of St. Louis encephalitis in Manhattan and the 14th case confirmed in New York City since August, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said Friday. Three city residents have died from the St. Louis encephalitis outbreak. The 90-year-old Manhattan woman was in critical condition, Giuliani said. New strain detected in birds http://cnn.com/US/9909/24/EncephalitisOutbreak.ap/index.html JFK JR.'S WILL LEAVES PERSONAL PROPERTY TO SISTER'S CHILDREN John F. Kennedy Jr. left his personal property to his sister's three children, and money from a multimillion-dollar trust to family, friends and charities.Kennedy's will, filed Friday in Manhattan Surrogate's Court, does not state the value of Kennedy's estate, but says it is worth more than $1 million. Kennedy's net worth had been estimated as ranging from $30 million to $100 million. Money left to people who worked for his parents http://cnn.com/US/9909/24/jfk.jr.will.ap/index.html .More U.S. stories at http://cnn.com/US DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Early Retirement Notice
-Caveat Lector- === As a result of the reduction of money budgeted for department areas, we are forced to cut down on our number of personnel. Under this plan, older employees will be asked to go on early retirement, thus permitting the retention of the younger people who represent our future. Therefore, a program to phase out older personnel by the end of the current fiscal year, via retirement, will be placed into effect immediately. This program will be known as SLAP (Sever Late-Aged Personnel). Employees who are SLAPPED will be given the opportunity to look for jobs outside the company. SLAPPED employees can request a review of their employment records before actual retirement takes place. This phase of the program is called SCREW (Survey of Capabilities of Retired Early Workers). All employees who have been SLAPPED or SCREWED may file an appeal with the upper management. This is called SHAFT (Study by Higher Authority Following Termination). Under the terms of the new policy, an employee may be SLAPPED once, SCREWED twice, but may be SHAFTED as many times as the company deems appropriate. If an employee follows the above procedures, he/she will be entitled to Get HERPES (Half Earnings for Retired Personnel's Early Severance) or CLAP Combined Lump sum Assistance Payment) unless he/she already has AIDS (Additional Income From Dependents or Spouse). As HERPES and CLAP are considered benefit plans, any employee who has received HERPES or CLAP will no longer be SLAPPED or SCREWED by the company. Management wishes to assure the younger employees who remain on board that the company will continue its policy of training employees through our Special High Intensity Training (SHIT). This company takes pride in the amount of SHIT our employees receive. We have given our employees more SHIT than any company in this area. If any employee feels they do not receive enough SHIT on the job, see your immediate supervisor. YOUR SUPERVISOR IS SPECIALLY TRAINED TO MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE ALL THE SHIT YOU CAN STAND. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Update on National ID status
-Caveat Lector- CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES: U.S. House link - This is a great link for Congressional Members http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ Following is an update from Ron Paul's office on the status of the effort in Congress to repeal section 656 of Public Law 104-208, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, (IIRIRA). This is the law which mandates that, after October 1, 2000, federal agencies may not accept for identification purposes any document that does not conform to the standardization guidelines which are to be established by the Department of Transportation in conjunction with the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA). The mandatory requirements include the inclusion of social security numbers on the ID document application and other nondescript security features intended to prevent duplication and fraud. According to AAMVA publications, the intention is to ultimately require some form of biometric identification such as a fingerprint. The implementing regulations have already been drafted and were published in the Federal Register for the required public comment period (which was first announced by ScanThisNews the day they was published), but they were withdrawn when the DOT received a large amount of public objections. More on the history can be found here: http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1/fp-dot-money-withheld.html And, excerpts from the law itself can be found here (scan down to section 656): http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page2/fp-104-208-immigration.html Finally, although I encourage everyone to do as is suggested below, contact your representative, please remember that when the time rolls around when this law is slated to go into effect, nearly all of the states will have already complied with all of the standardization guidelines. A state-by-state accounting of this trend is available here: http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page4/fp-04-page4-winners-losers.html Scott Now, here's the update from Congressman Ron Paul's office: The Senate Transportation Appropriations contains language repealing Section 656 (b) of the 1996 Immigration Act, which established the National ID card. If this language is in the House-Senate conference that comes out of the House, the attempt to turn drivers' licenses into a national ID card will be dead! People who contact their conferees should ask them to make sure the conference report has the Senate's 656 (b) repeal language. House Conferees on Transportation Appropriations are: Republicans: CW Young (FL-10) Frank Wolf (VA-10) Tom Delay (TX-22) Ralph Regula (OH-16) Harold Rogers (KY-5) Ron Packard (CA-04) Sonny Callahan (AL-01) Todd Tiahrt (KS-04) Robert Aderholt (AL-04) Kay Granger (TX-12) Democrat: David Obey (WI-07) Martin Olav Sabo (MN-05) John W. Olver (MA-01) Ed Pastor (AZ-02) Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-15) Jose Serrano (NY-16) Michael Forbes (NY-01) Senate Conferees: Republicans: Ted Stevens (AK) Richard Shelby (AL) Pete Dominic (NM) Arlen Specter (PA) Kit Bond (MO) Slade Gorton (WA) Robert Bennett (UT) Ben Campbell (CO) Democrats: Frank Lautenberg (NJ) Robert Byrd (WV) Barbara Milkulski (MD) Harry Reid(NV) Herb Kohl (WI) Patty Murray (WA) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UFO's/LAW ENFORCEMENT - - Last Posting
-Caveat Lector- THIS WILL BE THE LAST POSTING OF THIS REQUEST, I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD FORWARD ME ON THE BELOW LISTED RESEARCH AND SURVEY. Dear Sir/Madam: I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself. My name is Fred R. Saluga. I am an ex-law enforcement officer and a former chief of police. I have numerous years experience in both civil and criminal investigations and I am also a MUFO State Section Director and Licensed Private Investigator in the State of Florida. Law enforcement agencies are repeatedly involved with people reporting Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's), alien abductions, cattle mutilations, crop circles, and other phenomena associated with UFO's. The majority of these witnesses are under great emotional stress and turn to the law enforcement community for help and guidance. For many years, law enforcement has borne the brunt of the public concerning the mystery of UFO's. There are also numerous recorded cases of law enforcement officers who have had UFO sightings and there are many other reports on file within the law enforcement community concerning other types of UFO related incidents. It should also be noted that these experiences are not uniquely American - - French, Italian, English, Canadian, and Australian Law Enforcement Officers have been frequently involved with UFO sightings and other UFO related phenomena. I am presently conducting extensive research on the topic of "UFO'S AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE TO THE PHENOMENA", and would appreciate your assistance by completing the following survey that I have developed to assist me with this research. I would appreciate, if you have the time, if you could feel out the following survey with honest and complete answers and not with just yes and no answers. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, and would like to thank you in advance for your time and cooperation regarding this research. UFO'S AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE TO THE PHENOMENA A. A common complaint among UFO witnesses and others who have claimed to have a UFO experience or encounter is that law enforcement tends to be unresponsive to their claims and shows an unwillingness to get involved in UFO related incidents. Do you agree or disagree, please explain. B. Would the law enforcement community benefit by attending training on UFO's and UFO related incidents to get a better understanding of the phenomena? C. Could you list the reasons that you believe that law enforcement does not want to become involved in the investigation of UFOs and UFO related phenomena? D. Should law enforcement work with civilian investigators to advance the use of crime scene investigative techniques and promote the collection of forensic evidence? E. Do you believe that law enforcement and civilian investigators could work together to solve the UFO mystery? F. Law enforcement officers are the first to receive a call relating to a UFO incident or sifghting. How do you feel they should proceed after receiving the call? G. Do you have knowledge of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency that has investigated a UFO related incident and filed an official police report on the incident? Please explain. H. Do you believe that local law enforcement would participate in a UFO COVER-UP, if so ordered by a higher level of government? I. There are many psychological, physiological, and adverse potentials associated with UFOs and UFO related incidents. Do you believe that law enforcement should receive training in these areas to better serve the community? J. Would you list the reasons that you believe that law enforcement officers are reluctant to discuss UFOs in public? K. I would also appreciate your input on the law enforcement community investigating abductions and any types of investigative techniques that you believe would be help full in these investigations? I would also appreciate any comments that you may like to make on anything that I have not covered above. I would like to thank you in advance for your time and cooperation regarding the above request and all information that is forwarded will be appreciated and assist me in my research. I am also willing to pay for any articles and postage that anyone is willing to supply me. Confidentiality will also be honored, and no information will be released unless permission is granted. I would also appreciate if you could pass this survey on to your friends, law enforcement officers and anyone else who would like to fill out the survey. Thank you, Fred Fred R. Saluga, 2731 BlairStone Road, Apartment #77, Tallahassee, Florida 32301 e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS
-Caveat Lector- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS
-Caveat Lector- Couple this info with the plans made by fed puppet mayors in city governments all across America (Greco the Gecko mayor of Tampa case in point) and you can see collusion that leads pretty well to things as big as takeover schemes2 months or so ago Gecko posted his city/macdill afb cooperation proclamation on the Tampa City Website and thankfully that was caught within 3 days and spread to interested partys immediately...the pigs are acting out now trying to hide it and playing up their favorite distraction, pro sports, like its some big party, but they are being watched carefully. First stumble and there will be some attacking going on, even if just ideological and verbal to start. I have been able to draw stark conclusions between the behaviour of Gecko and Adloph Guiliani...both are steinbrenner mayorsGecko cooperated with the spraying of malathion over the whole county two years ago I would say that closer to half of the people realize something really bad is being done to them in the name of government here, and though they don't want to admit it they cannot help seeing it and have begun to act accordingly. Kris Millegan wrote: Subject: SNET: NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:14:32 -0500 From: "Kay Lee Joe Hart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@world.std.com;@aol.com; - SNETNEWS Mailing List CC: It's the same old story - if the grassroots folks don't get involved it AIN'T GONNA WORK. - CC: The War on Drugs is about to be lifted up another rung. The hysteria has risen to the point where we may soon see soldiers in our streets - if the "border" troops miss someone, what is the next step; send them into the cities. I remember visiting Cuba as a young boy before Castro's revolution. I still have pictures I snapped of guys I thought were cops standing on street corners with machine guns hanging from their shoulders. I don't want to see that here. The terrible mistakes being made by our highly trained civilian drug forces should be reason enough not to bring the military into the fray. Army training, except at the highest levels, is highly incompetent. It's very difficult to "flunk" and when it happens the penalty is to be recycled back through the same sorry program again. This is a very dangerous step our congress is about to take. ** Washington, D.C. - A House-Senate conference agreement on the defense bill includes a provision directing the Pentagon to develop a plan on how the military can better assist law enforcement agencies in interdicting drugs along the border and stopping terrorists from entering the United States. The provision represents a modification of an amendment authored by U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant, Jr. (D-Ohio) that was attached to the House-passed version of the bill last June. The Traficant amendment authorized the use of U.S. troops to assist civilian law enforcement in patrolling the border. "Narcotics is still the number one problem in America," said Traficant, a former drug counselor and sheriff. "You can have all the counseling programs in the world and a million cops on the street, but unless we get serious about stopping drugs from pouring over the border, America will never win the war on drugs." Later today the House will consider the conference report on the fiscal year 2000 Defense Authorization Act. The measure authorizes $288.8 billion in fiscal year 2000 for defense programs. Last June the House approved an amendment sponsored by Traficant authorizing the use of U.S. troops to assist the Immigration and Naturalization Service and Customs Service in interdicting drugs at the border and apprehending terrorists attempting to enter the country. Under the Traficant amendment, which the House approved 242 to 180, the troops could only be deployed at the request of the Attorney General or Treasury Secretary. The amendment also required the troops to be under the command and control of a civilian law enforcement official, and that they receive law enforcement training. The amendment was similar to measures Traficant attached to the defense bill in 1997 and 1998. In both those years the amendment was dropped from the bill in conference with the Senate. The compromise provision included in the conference report directs the Secretary of Defense to prepare a plan to assign members of the armed forces to assist the INS or Customs Service in responding to a threat to national security posed by the entry into the U.S. of terrorists or drug traffickers. Like the Traficant amendment, the provision directs the Secretary to ensure that the plan does not violate the Posse Comitatus Act and that military personnel assigned to such activity receive law
[CTRL] Internet Explorer 5 Help desparately needed
-Caveat Lector- People, Can someone please help this neophyte computer lover? I have tried all I know. I wanted to switch from AOL to webcombo. I bought and installed webcombo. Webcombo allows three email options: IE5's Outlook Express, Netscape and Eudora. I have OE at work. I chose OE. I installed IE5 from microsoft's own site. I tried to open it. The message came that said if I updated my Quantex-installed version of IE that an uninstall function would operate. (?) Since I needed it to use webcombo I said ok. I cannot use IE5 for email on webcombo now. I get an error message that this file is not found: msimn.exe I called Microsoft. I asked if they could send me this file. They said I had a bad version of IE5 and could fix it. They said use start/run and type in "SCF". I did, the results were that all systems were go, nothing lacked "integrity". I called back but I was not at the PC so I agreed to call back later. I called back this morning and they want to charge me money for what they deem "an incident report". I emailed Microsoft. A helpful guy sent back a file saying IE5 may have reloaded under a file "Outloo~1" and to rename that "Outlook Express". I did. No go. I called webcombo (they did not respond to an email message). No help. They said it was Microsoft's problem. They did help me set up for Netscape email not OE. That works, works fine. I just don't like it as well as OE. I called Quantex. They could not tell me what version of IE5 came with my PC although I gave them my serial number. They said it was not their problem. In particular, they said some ISP's overwrite files. I still want to use OE. AND MY QUESTION IS: l. IF I delete all traces of IE and OE, can I then reinstall? a. If so, how do I do that? l. the IE5 message said I wouldn't be able to uninstall, what recourse do I have for that? b. If not, how can I set up webcombo to use OE as email? 2. In the alternative, how can I get Microsoft to send me the above file so OE can work with webcombo? Frustrated, crying and angry !! AOL is looking like an angel to me now. All I wanted was for Microsoft to send me the file that my PC said I needed: msimn.exe so webcombo would work. Now I am in the middle of a nightmare. I do not appreciate the fact that these companies are unable to help but instead pass the buck. Terry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS
-Caveat Lector- THE MAKING OF A POLICE STATE IN AMERICA Prohibition didn't work and this fake "drug war" isn't working either. 1.It has taken innocent citizens constitutional rights. and at the same 2. The drug war is building a profiteer oriented police system always on the lookout for seizable cash or property. Joining this effort are just about every government agency including the military, the Coast Guard, DEA, National Guard, all of whom currently have authorities as never before permitted in America. 3. The police establishment is using " The drug war" to build an empire of bureaucrats, law enforcement, lawyers, judges, jails, jail builders, and jailers, and on and on. Much of the citizenry considers them to be "jack booted thugs". 4. The best analysis and solution I've seen is spelled out in a book named "Drug Crazy" by Mike Gray. 5. At some point this is going to come to a showdown. Many of us have had enough allready!! Ron Wilson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990925a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No Hibernian hoards overran Londinium during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Photo Of The Day: http://www.nervemag.com/photoday/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Colorado School Shooting 'Martyr' Tale In Doubt. DENVER (Reuters) Cassie Bernall, the teenager hailed as a martyr in the Columbine HS massacre for professing her belief in God before she was shot dead, may never have had such an exchange with her killer. Propagandists will ignore this detail, of course. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/17/news-shootings-martyr : Does doctrinaire myth transcend reality? Are beliefs more significant than events? Is truth irrelevant to belief? Do you believe whatever you want? Eh? @ PARA-HACK is back! New Design! New Sections! German English! Trojans, Virii, ICQ Toolz, Utilitys, Texts, much more! http://parahack.cjb.net _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Triangles Discs - Over 200 US Sightings Per Month - New Mutilations. PENNSYLVANIA UFO PROBE - TWO FLYING TRIANGLES OVER GEORGIA - FLORIDA UFO - LOUISIANA LANDING POSSIBLE ABDUCTION - TEXAS LIGHTS - MISSOURI DAYLIGHT DISK SIGHTED - SOUTH DAKOTA CATTLE MUTILATION - OREGON FLYING TRIANGLE - UFO PHOTOS TAKEN IN TURKEY? - U.K. SIGHTING - AUSTRALIA UFO VIDEO - UFO BELIEVERS STILL BEING ARRESTED IN CHINA - GEORGIA AERIAL PHENOMENON - PENNSYLVANIA CRASH TAPE. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/flyers92499.htm : Are HAARP/weather/atmosphere/mindcontrol programs behind all/most/some/no UFO sightings? Should UFOlogists be arrested? Do you have UFO crash images? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE HERE, REPORT SAYS. The Cornell report accesses the carrying capacity of the Earth's resources and how these resources relate to the requirements of a rapidly growing human population. World population is expected to hit 6 billion in October and that number is pre- dicted to double in less than 50 years. That means "12 billion miserable humans will suffer a difficult life on Earth by the year 2100." 3 billion live in poverty - see http://cnn.com/NATURE/9909/24/population.enn/ : Have we screwed up Earth enough yet to be sufficiently motivated to leave the planet move into the universe? Where would you rather live? Anywhere? # Return of the flesh-eating bacteria - 76-year-old man succumbs to flesh- eating bacteria more than a year after contracting it from a crab bite: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/092399/met_2b3Obit_.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # US Tabloids Have Big UFO-ET Week. Alien encounters and other puzzling evidence were as close at hand as your neighborhood grocery checkout counter again this week, as the tabloid press publicized new theories about UFO abduction and reported what may be the first recorded ET suicide. Poor ET: http://www.space.com:80/area51/tabwrap_990921.html : Are you an ET? Have you committed suicide lately? Why did your colleagues revive you? Why did your desperation hit the pages of the World Weekly News? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Choirboy Said To Have Been Raised By Chimpanzees. (Times) In a story straight from the pages of Edgar Rice Burroughs, a boy said to have been brought up by apes in the rain forest is coming to Britain to sing with a children's choir. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/chimp.htm : Do you believe in Tarzan Of The Chimps? Were your raised by chimps? Do you sing? Do you sing like a chimp? How do chimps sing? Did chimps molest you?? # Bobbitt-ized - Child Molester Has His Penis Cut Off By Prison Cellmate: http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/mtc_docs/013231.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ SPIRITUAL 8856. Learn to resonate with the most powerful energy in the universe. Life is a world drama you are one of its many characters. You have the authority to change the script for your character experience a happy and joyous life. With your new character, problems with health will disappear. Bring the love of your life to you. Solve all problems with money. There are no problems your new character cannot solve. Take steps now to solve all of life's problems. http://home.earthlink.net/~sopdu : Do you have problems, or challenges? Can you reprogram yourself or reality to circumvent them? Have you rewritten a script lately? Are you edited out? # "The Erotic You" - College lecturer asks students to come up with ten sexually creative uses for a pastry blender and a wooden toy giraffe: http://www.netspace.org/herald/daylink/erotic.f.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Newspeak: Bill Gates and the 'Brave New' Dictionary: http://www.lexrex.com/articles/lawspeak/vol1iss3.htm @ When Victor Hugo Spoke To Aliens From Mercury, Jupiter The Stars: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/hugo.htm # RICH GET EVEN
Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/24/99 11:42:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SM: When this earth is all said and done I hope it is not said that the human race killed itself because it did not want to feel infringed upon by the reality of its situation. For most, ignorance is bliss. Well stated Sean...keep punchin'! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: (1-Intro)The Woman from Mossad
Excerpts from a new book "THE WOMAN FROM MOSSAD" by Peter Hounam (author of "Who Killed Diana") Out in the United Kingdom shedding new light on the identity of the Kidnapper(s) of Mordechai Vanunu. £9.99(UK Pounds) from Vision Paperbacks = Mordechai Vanunu suffered a terrible fate for revealing Israel's nuclear weapons secrets to a British newspaper and to Peter Hounam, the author of this controversial book. A sexy blonde called Cindy lured Vanunu to Italy where he was beaten to the ground, drugged and smuggled home aboard a cargo ship. In a sensational Jerusalem trial he received a savage 18-year sentence for treason and espionage, and he is still incarcerated -despite an international campaign to free him. This is the tragic story of a reluctant whistleblower, of the ruthless female spy who tried to destroy him, and of the Political deception thot continues to this dory. In a gripping tale of intrigue, the reader is led across three continents, following Mossad's frantic efforts to minimise the impact of Vanunu's revelations. The author reveals how international powers - France, Belgium, South Africa and the United States - have clandestinely helped Israel acquire nuclear know-how and technology - making a mockery of their stance on nuclear proliferation. Hounam also reveals evidence of a second secret nuclear reactor in Israel, and examines how, and why, Cindy may have been working as a US spy as well as for Mossad. Finally the book focuses on attempts to free Vanunu and critically examines the recent part played by The Sunday Times, the paper that first published his story. INTRODUCTION It is appropriate to begin this book with the frightening events of September 1986 when Mordechai Vanunu decided to become a whistleblower and was then hunted down by a Mossad hit-team. One minute he was stepping off a plane in Rome, joyfully looking forward to a brief holiday with a young blonde American woman he had met in London. The next he was being knocked to the ground, manacled and injected with a powerful sedative. Bruised and distraught, Morde drifted into unconsciousness and his life as a free man ended at that moment. Not knowing whether he was about to be killed, he was smuggled back to Israel where he remains today - serving 18 years in the harshest of conditions. Except for occasional trips to court and a few hours each week for exercise, he has been incarcerated in a concrete cell with a tiny window well above eye level. He has a shower that doubles as a urinal, and he has spent 12 years of his sentence in solitary confinement. Since the spring of 1998, he has been free to mix with a few selected prisoners but no one is allowed to visit him from outside except his guards, lawyers and, once a fortnight, his brothers and sisters. What could he have done to deserve such treatment? An assassination plot against the President or selling secrets to an enemy state? Morde's so-called 'crime' was speaking to The Sunday Times, and in particular me, about the underground nuclear weapons plant in Israel's Negev desert where he had worked. To most sane people, he did something brave and altruistic. That prior to his trial he was illegally hijacked in a civilised European country by agents of a friendly power is one of the great post-war espionage scandals . Sadly neither Italy, Britain or Israel's ally, the US, are prepared to rock the boat. They have good reasons to remain silent for as this book shows, many countries helped Israel build up a massive, advanced nuclear arsenal. While other countries who try this tactic like Iraq are bombed into submission, Israel gets massive financial aid and a discreet pat on the back. Embarrassingly, Vanunu showed that Israel had by 1986 amassed a wide variety of nuclear weapons, compact enough to be delivered by a new generation of ballistic weapons that the country was also developing. The scale of the programme was technically impressive and the evidence provided, in photographs taken by the Israeli inside the plant was incontrovertible. All previous calculations had suggested Israel had only a handful of atom bombs. Vanunu showed that between 100 and 200 devices had been built, and that after producing atom bombs it went on to manufacture state-of-the art thermonuclear warheads. Pride of place are neutron bombs that produce less blast damage but kill every living organism, and city-busting hydrogen bombs - truly the doomsday weapon. Today, in late 1999, the plant at Dimona is still in operation and one can calculate the tally in Israel's arsenal is now well over 400. Israel has of course denied having any. It parrots the same misleading claim, that it will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East. Vanunu's story, splashed in the London Sunday Times on October 5, 1986, told the world that Israel was, let us not mince words, a
Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world
-Caveat Lector- Our Collective Tombstone: Heres Lies Humanity The Earth Was Our Toilet William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/24/99 11:42:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SM: When this earth is all said and done I hope it is not said that the human race killed itself because it did not want to feel infringed upon by the reality of its situation. For most, ignorance is bliss. Well stated Sean...keep punchin'! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/25/99 8:09:35 AM, you wrote: 5. At some point this is going to come to a showdown. Many of us have had enough allready!! Ron Wilson It is already, everyday. Remeber these actions are under colour of law, there is no Constitutional basis fro the Drug War. The legislature doesn't have the authority to make plants illegal. They come from God. To make liquor illegal, it took a constitutional admendment. To make liquor takes a manufacturing process. Do not buckle personally, stand-up to them, tell them Quo Warranto. They will let you go and dismiss the case. Standing up individual and together are DEATH to the conspiracy. the culture is exceeding the framework of the conspirators "power." The change can be and I suggest will be quite peaceful. More so some areas than others. THEY have already lost. The question now is what will the future look like. THERE IS NO AUTHORITY FOR THE DRUG WAR. Drug Peace -- not War Onwards to the utmost of futures. Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jim Keith (AKA Commander X) 1949 - 1999
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Blessings. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:556489"Jim Keith (AKA Commander X) 1949 - 1999/A - Subject: Jim Keith (AKA Commander X) 1949 - 1999 From: Robert Sterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 September 1999 01:28 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/jkeith.htm Jim Keith 1949 - 1999 As some of you know, James Keith broke his leg at Burning Man, stepping off of a three-foot stage. Thinking it was just a severe sprain, he went home and tried to sleep it off. Realizing the next morning it was more, he went to Washoe Medical and was to be treated for a broken knee. This was to involve surgery, but was delayed due to a problem with kidney function. On Tuesday, September 7th, he was in good spirits, but worried about the thought of being put under. He is quoted by a friend as saying, "I have this feeling that if they put me under I'm not coming back" That night, Jim Keith went in for his surgery, and around 8:10 PM, a blood clot released from his leg went to his lung and he passed away. James leaves behind two daughters Aerika (13) and Verity (15). Jim Keith's Big Secret Robert Sterling Now that Jim Keith has passed away, one of his secrets can be revealed: Jim Keith was Commander X. To Read More: The Konformist: The Internet Magazine Dedicated To Rebellion, Konspiracy Subversion I NEED 2 KONFORM http://www.konformist.com - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cuba and Much Much More--History of War and Banks
-Caveat Lector- Kris posted this website, called "Cuba and World History 1492-1789", but it covers much, much more. I have gone through it and excerpted what I hope shows the history of bankers financing commercial wars throughout the world. It ends with the death of the Lost Dauphin. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/cubabrains/spain1878.html The History of the World has a common theme : the struggle between those who believe private bankers should have supremacy over the National Treasury (Republicans) and those who think the opposite that the National Treasury represents the people as a whole and should have supremacy over the bankers.The supporters of the Treasury supremacy system call themselves Monarch-ist because in their system the bankers; national or international ones ;are not allowed to rule as a class separate from the rest of the nation. The system of the bankers supremacy is called classicist or Republican (rulers of the public) because the bankers separate themselves from the rest as a class or aristocracy and rule the other class the people to perpetuate their privileges not allowing social mobility. Banks were called Temples in ancient times.When we talk about the temples of the Acropolis in Athens or before in the island of Delos we are talking about the same thing as Wall Street.The Temple of Amenti (God) in Was-et (Thebes) was the National Treasury of the Kingdom of Kemet (Egypt). snip The absolute center of banking moved from Jericho (5200) to Ninua (4850). The Biblical war between Cain and Abel (4795) refers to the war between Hamites of Palestine fighting Cain the Caucasians and Egyptians of Ki- Engir. From Ninua the center moved to Uruk (3750) and to Kish in Wari (2440). The Biblical flood is the destruction of Akkad- Wari (2154).The center of banking moved to Kussara (Urartu ,2154) with the Altaic. Commerce with the Indus valley began. Secularization of banking and international trade began in 2005. Then it moved back to Ninua (Nineveah- 2030), with the Hurrian invasion of Ashur led by Ushpia. Then it moved to Babilani (612), then to Alexandria (Egypt, 330 BC), then to Shusha (Susa in Persia, 47 BC), then to Alexandria (640 AD), then to Cordoba (Spain, 755), then to Alexandria ( Egypt, 1169), then to Venice (1360), then to Amsterdam (1605),and then to London (1712). snip In the Pipin's Empire,the Hapsburg's Empire and in the Aragon Monarchy (created by the Aznar family) the Roman Republic tradition prevailed. The bankers of Zaragoza and Barcelona told the King of Aragon or Barcelona what to do. The Hapsburg Empire at the beginning was called the Holy Roman Empire because the Emperors were crowned in Rome by the consent of the Pope.The Emperor was chosen by the Electors. The 7 electors went to Frankfurt the center of banking each with his banker.The elections of the Emperor in Frankfurt were a business transaction.They confused and obscured purposely the definitions of Emperor and King. The Aragon Monarchy with their seat of power in Barcelona Cataluna was the meager contribution of the Pipin-s to the "Reconquista" fight against the Arabs.Aragon was not part of Castillian Spain. They negotiated their conquests paying those Arab interests which had been their business associates before.They also used double agents like Cid Campeador.The Hapsburg Empire was a banker's Empire The wealthiest banker of Austria when the conquest of Cuba began in 1516 was Jacob Fugger who was the banker of the Vatican State. He was the power behind Emperor Charles 5 who ordered the conquest of the Aztec Empire in 1516.His pre eminence in banking lasted until 1550 when the Venetian bankers became dominant in Vienna and changed Fugger's pro-Catholic policy.This was after the expulsion of the international bankers such as Senior and their followers from Spain in 1492.Fugger's most profitable investment was in the silver mines of the Hartz region in the German Empire.Silver had more value than gold in Japan and Asia . When they took silver there they bought pepper silk and gold which had more value than silver in Europe.They exploded the labor of the youth and the misery of over populated and ignorant countries. Sometimes they went looking for a country where there was misery other times they made the misery themselves with war and turmoil.Anyone who had access to these trade routes had an advantage over the rest of society. snip The center of world international banking moved from Alexandria (1169-1360) to Venice in 1360.In 1366 international bankers from Mestre- Venice were invited to do banking in Rialto (downtown Venice) for the first time. They engaged in organizing this World War through their banking agents in Bruges and London. snip Columbus trip to Cuba in 1492 was part of the Hapsburg effort in search for a route to the sources of pepper and silk in Asia.The Hapsburg bankers financed the Aragon Crown.The Aragon Crown was more independent of Spain then than Cataluna is today. This war brought
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: (1-Intro)The Woman from Mossad
-Caveat Lector- Two points The old SA government had according to the book "the mini nuke conspiracy" also developed a number of neutron bombs. According to rumour(and the book) they have been taken out of the country by the countries right wing military and kept as an insurance policy. Secondly- who needs a intercontinental ballistic missile. according to open journals the critical mass of plutonium is about 4.5Kg. You can easily fit an A bomb into a diplomatic pouch and then take it in a back pack wherever you want to. Nice Back Packing John -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 1999 05:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: (1-Intro)The Woman from Mossad DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Internet Explorer 5 Help desparately needed
-Caveat Lector- Using IE, go to http://www.netscape.com download Netscape. Get email from Yahoo or somesuch free service. Then dump that other browser you bought consider the money spent to be tuition. Keep IE so you can re-download Netscape if it ever freezes up on you. Best of luck. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Divorced from the Mob
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/1999-09-23/feature.html A HREF="http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/1999-09-23/feature.html"Phoenix New Times Online - phoenixnewtimes.com /A - Divorced from the Mob By Gilbert Garcia ANTHONY PERRI IS QUICK TO TELL PEOPLE THAT he's not an educated guy. He dropped out of high school on the first day of his freshman year, after attending Italian (the one class he figured he could pass) and lunch. He's a little fuzzy on history (he refers to General George Custer as "that prick they killed at Little Big Horn"), and he never reads newspapers, except to check daily racetrack tips. But there's one subject that he can talk about with authority: New York's organized-crime world. The 57-year-old Perri spent nearly four decades as a member of the Colombo crime family, going from one racket to another, making tons of money, blowing it just as fast, and casually, as he says, "making people disappear" whenever the situation demanded. His only steady occupation was "knocking around": a combination of gambling, "swagging" (stealing goods from the airport), and loan-sharking, which he calls "Shylock" work. When he was growing up, the wiseguys nicknamed Perri "The Head," because his head was overly large for his stubby frame. These days, he looks like a gray-haired version of Joe Pesci's character in the movie GoodFellas, with voice and potty-mouth vocabulary to match. Like Pesci's character, he can actually make "Ya prick, ya" sound like a term of endearment. Perri has little respect for most Mob-related films, but he likes GoodFellas. He proudly points out that many of its settings were based on real locales near his Queens neighborhood of Ozone Park. He also claims that he knew practically every person portrayed in the film. There's one thing about the movie that bothers him, though. Near the end, mobster-turned-informant Henry Hill is shown stepping out of his house to pick up the morning papers. He has the paranoid look of someone who never knows when the next bullet might be heading his way; someone who feels utterly alone. Perri knows that feeling. He's been hiding from the Mob for the past seven years, ever since he set up four reputed Mafia associates in a money-laundering sting operation and helped the FBI confiscate a 97-acre horse farm in Old Westbury, New York. What he objects to is GoodFellas' depiction of Hill living in a nice house, in an affluent neighborhood. Perri thinks the scene conveys the impression that the Witness Protection Program provides you with a life of luxury. = pix. courtesy of New York Times The Old Westbury Farm was confiscated in a Perri-led FBI sting operation and sold for $5.6 million. To hear Perri tell it, the Witness Protection Program is a big crock, a bunch of empty promises from the feds that they'll set you up with a new life, a new identity and a lush existence. He likes to say that when he entered the Witness Protection Program, he got "$1,000 and a kick in the ass." Perri says two FBI agents convinced him to help in the 1992 sting by promising him 25 percent of the horse farm, a piece of property that was later sold for $5.6 million to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Rockville Centre. He contends that he put himself in extreme physical danger for what he thought would be the payday of his life, and the government screwed him, just like the backstabbing Mob weasels he'd grown so fed up with over the years. So, in 1993, Perri dropped out of the Witness Protection Program, went to the lawyers of the indicted crime-family members and offered to sign an affidavit saying that the FBI had entrapped them. His former friends let him stay in New York for a year, until their trial ended when they agreed to plea bargains. Perri uses a different name in the Valley. But he wanted his real name used for this story to protect his local identity. He says he decided to tell New Times the story of what he thinks of as his betrayal by the federal government because he's filed suit against the FBI and is frustrated at the slowness of the legal system. Much of his tale about being an FBI informant is contained in a thick legal volume on file in a Washington, D.C., federal court. The FBI has disputed very little of it. FBI agents named in the case, who Perri says promised him wealth in exchange for his help, refused to talk to New Times about Perri. Two federal officials, one from the FBI and one from the Justice Department, spoke only on the condition that their names not be used. But much of what Perri talked about was his life as a mobster, a wiseguy on the streets of New York and later Las Vegas. And how he came to be desperate enough to seek help from federal agents. It's a story filled with Perri's confessions of corruption and violence. Many of his tales, particularly of his years with the Colombo crime family, could not be independently verified. Perri has lived in the Valley since 1996, after
[CTRL] Assassins like Richard Nixon...
-Caveat Lector- from: http://members.truepath.com/overkill/sue A HREF="http://members.truepath.com/overkill/sue"The Assassins/A - Updated July 30, 1999 Assassins like Richard Nixon... By Sue Morrison Who was the president-elect in 1980? Was it the amnesic Ronald Reagan, or was it Richard Nixon, who was physically located in New York, but mentally connected to Washington DC. Indeed, author Sam Anson blew Nixon's cover out of the water when he said: "Nixon gets into his office every morning about 7:30. By noon, he will have made and taken 40 calls, most of them to Washington. First, he calls the White House and speaks to Ed Meese, Bud McFarlane and President Reagan. Then he starts working the State Department. Everyone from George Schultz on down. He not only gives advice on foreign policy, but on politics in general. What he says is taken very seriously". And we thought Richard Nixon had resigned. On the contrary, Richard Nixon had successfully cultivated the degree of unaccountable power he always demanded. According to often cited polls, President Bill Clinton is a moral deadbeat compared to Richard Nixon and were talking about a public opinion poll which is being used to dictate moral superiority. The New York Times is a leading advocate which perpetuates this perverse sense of reality. By way of editorial, on February 15, 1999, the New York Times used a moralizing professor from UCLA to plant the suggestion that John Dean was the only difference between Richard Nixon and President Clinton. The American public understands and rejects such a blatant level of anti-Clinton propaganda, and like Ken Starr, the media continues to shoot itself on the foot. Perception aside, the morality of Bill Clinton is unassailable if you compare it to the morality of Richard Milhouse Nixon. The fact that most people think otherwise is a glaring indictment of a media which is supposed to inform -so let us pick up the slack and take a long hard look at the post-Watergate morality of Richard Nixon. First and foremost, the one thing that Clintons impeachment has made clear is that it is not possible to separate the sinner from the redemption and given the fact that Richard Nixon refused to repent reflects the magnitude of his moral degeneracy. Indeed, as far as Richard Nixon was concerned, he was a loyal Patriot who had the right to defy the law at will. If he was impeached, it was not because he was a criminal but because the liberal media was out to get him. That is what Richard Nixon in fact believed and having developed the bizarre notion that if the media did not report it, it wasnt a crime, his peculiar answer to getting away with breaking the law was to forge alliances with the media. Indeed, Richard Nixon was always uncomfortable and insecure about the media unless he controlled it to the point where his message dominated. In that context, the 1980s were Richard Nixons heyday because by that point in time, everything that meant anything to Richard Nixon -the presidency and the media, were largely in his hands. Secrecy has obscured the simple reality, but there are more than enough clues to give every reasonable person the opportunity to fill in the blanks. The first clue about the fact that he had cultivated the power he always craved was Richard Nixon's confidence level. By 1980, Richard Nixon was confident enough to say: "I am confident that President Reagan and the members of his administration will have the vision to see what needs to be done and the courage to do it." The second clue is the fact that the media ignored books like, "Break-ins, Death Threats and the FBI; The Covert War Against the Central America Movement." Written and exhaustively researched by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ross Gelbspan, the book recorded two hundred verified instances of break-ins, burglaries, death threats, harassment and arson, but the media failed to report the unified plot to destroy peace advocates who challenged Re agan's Central American policy. No press coverage, no crime. The flip side of this perversion is that Richard Nixon developed the idea that he could use the media to destroy his adversaries -and therein lies the genesis of the media-driven Whitewater scandal. Richard Nixon unleashed the monster, and once again, it took the United States Senate to contain it. The disturbing element of the secret war that Nixon waged is the unreported casualties. It is difficult to catalogue the dead bodies, the media failed to show up, but it is certainly possible to identify Richard Nixon's high profile targets. In particular, Nixon and cronies like Gordon Liddy were determined to give Ronald Reagan a protest-free administration, and they prepared to nip anti-war demonstrators in the bud. As far as Nixon was concerned, anti-war demonstrators were irresponsible, hateful failures. In his own terms: "They basically are haters, they are frustrated, they are alienated -they don't know what to do with their lives .
[CTRL] The Thousand-Year Conspiracy: Secret Germany Behind the Mask
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:555203"MiniReview: The Thousand-Year Conspiracy: Secret Germany Behind the Mask 00771/A - Subject: MiniReview: The Thousand-Year Conspiracy: Secret Germany Behind the Mask 00771 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 September 1999 10:00 AM EDT Message-id: 7s8313$t6f$[EMAIL PROTECTED] MiniReview for a book in the New Paradigms Project catalog: Mandatory Disclaimer: http://a-albionic.com/recread.html Author: Paul Winkler Title: The Thousand-Year Conspiracy SubTitle: Secret Germany Behind the Mask Year: 1943 Pages: 381 Discussion: As Germany rises again on the world stage, this time perhaps as the dominant force in a united Europe, this book becomes more and more important. With slight adjustments, this book fits perfectly with the Project theory of Judeo-Masonic-Anglophile vs. Prusso-Vatican conspiracy theories. Important information on the ancient Guelph vs. Ghibelline conflict within the Christendom which eventually coalesced into the current duality. Also explores the "2-Germanies" theory: the one Germany of totalitarian/militarist Prussians and Vatican aligned, the other Germany of cultured commerce by Merchant Princes of independent City States and British aligned. Note: The second Germany provided Britain with its Royal Family. ID: 00771 -- We attempt to keep the recommended reading for the New Paradigms Project in stock for immediate shipment. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Suggested Writers For Getting It
-Caveat Lector- ?Wasn't * Das Goat * the name of some artsy fartsy Kraut war movie Joshua2 - Das GOAT wrote: Subject: Suggested Writers For Getting It Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:18:26 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Dear R.U., I know you didn't ask, but thought I'd get you in touch with some writers that I think would be perfect for Getting It, snip Anyway, besides Jim Hogshire (who I already mentioned) and Richard Metzger, Kenn Thomas Jon Vankin (who go without saying), here they are. I made sure they are all stylistically aligned with the Getting It message: snip Das Goat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - I've always got a kick out of his internet writings. Haven't heard from him lately, but he sure does great work. snip Well, check them out if you want. I think all of them could fit in well with your vision, so wanted to pass the info along. Thanks, Robert Sterling DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US Tie to Russian Money Scam
-Caveat Lector- Kris posted: On Aug. 22, the Times even published a lengthy profile on Bruce Rappaport, a Swiss-Israeli businessman behind the Bank of New York, but left out Rappaport's role in U.S. covert operations during the Reagan administration. The Times profile began promisingly enough. "At the intersection of illicit Russian money and the Bank of New York is Bruce Rappaport, a Swiss banker who has had brushes with governmental investigators in the past and who has long had an important connection to the bank," the article stated. "Together with the Bank of New York, Mr. Rappaport owns a bank in Switzerland that helped provide the American bank with important business contacts in Russia, according to Western bankers familiar with the operation." A man with a similar name, Bernard Rapoport, is an extremely wealthy insurance magnate from the big city of Waco, Texas. He was one of the biggest Democratic donors and was invited to all the functions in the White House by the DNC. His name has often been confused with the Rappaport who was involved with North and Secord's Lake Resources Swiss account--at least in my mind, if no one else's. Linda Minor http://www.utexas.edu/admin/opa/oncampus/oc980929/oc-rapoport.html Bernard Rapoport, former chairman of the UT System Board of Regents, has donated to the University a nine-volume set of The Sephardic Classical Library, a project of the Fund for Higher Education. "...Famous Sephardim include the philosopher Spinoza, the British statesman Benjamin Disraeli, and Judah P. Benjamin, treasurer of the Confederacy." The General Libraries and other UT Austin library collections contain extensive holdings in support of Jewish, Hebrew and Yiddish studies. These materials include a range of books, journals, multimedia and electronic resources. They include materials relating to Jewish immigration and culture in Latin America in the Nettie Lee Benson Latin American Collection, extremely rich holdings relating to Jewish history in Texas and the Old South held in the Center for American History, and a wealth of rare Hebraica and contemporary Jewish literary materials held in the Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: More On Psych Drugs
9.25.99 More On Psych Drugs Here's a very knowledgeable essay which provides some important information about the various psychiatric/psychotropic drugs which many recent mass shooters have been LEGALLY under the influence of. The writer, speaking from first-hand professional knowledge and experience, points out that general comments from medical practitioners describing/defending the use of these drugs on persons of marginal mental stability--for example those in the Star-Telegram article we excerpted--fail to bring up the many KNOWN, potentially SEVERE mental/emotional (AND physical) side effects these drugs can have--ESPECIALLY on such individuals with a tenuous grasp upon "consensus reality" already. In other words, gasoline on a campfire. Not ALL Psychotropic Drugs Similar to Speed/Crank It's also been pointed out to us that some of the info we publicized regarding the prescribed psychotropic/psychiatric drugs was incomplete. Actually a number of these drugs like Prozac and Paxil, although similar to meth-amphetamines in their effects, are of another class called Selective Serotinin Reuptake Inhibitors, while Ritalin, Halcyon and others are more similar pharmacologically to meth-amphetamine (speed/crank). And as a topper--suddenly the Ft. Worth Police Department is saying they did NOT find a vial of Prozac prescribed for alleged Ft. Worth shooter Larry Ashbrook at Ashbrook's residence. So Police just kind of THOUGHT they found the Prozac prescription. They THOUGHT the vial said Prozac but it really didn't. They THOUGHT the prescription was for Larry Ashbrook, but it wasn't. And these THOUGHTS got passed all the way up the chain of command to where they are told to mass media as FACT and disseminated to the entire world. But now the cops say they were wrong; there was no Prozac prescription. And we're supposed to BELIEVE this? NewsHawk Inc. - - - - - - - - - I find some of the information in the article by the reporter of the Star- Telegram to be inaccurate, but not due to her reporting. The truth is that Prozac has "common side effects" including abnormal thinking and agitation. Also there are "lesser side effects" of paranoia. And then there are even more "rare side effects" that include antisocial behavior. Prozac has been FDA approved for the treatment of uni-polar depression. It is not approved for treatment of depression associated with schizophrenia or other psychotic illnesses at present. (This information is from current pharmaceutical literature.) Of, course, that does not mean that doctors do not prescribe it for those very things. They do. I know of several people being treated with Zyprexa for schizophrenia and Prozac or Zoloft for the associated depression (They are the same class of drug). As a matter of a fact, Prozac, Zoloft, and Paxil are Selective Serotonin Uptake Inhibitors. They help to increase the amount of serotonin at the neuronal synapse. It has been found that there is a deficiency of serotonin in the nerve synapse in those with depression. But, also, one must understand that serotonin is also a processor brain chemical for inducing sleep. Therefore it does seem like Ritalin. The anti-depressants I have just named are more commonly known as stimulant antidepressants. Ritalin, on the other hand, is a central nervous system stimulant. It stimulates the arousal center of the brain in the brain stem. Its method of action is not truly known. Both classes of drugs are currently in use treating ADD and ADHD. As, for the idiotic remarks I keep hearing from the medical and psychiatric community about mental patients (especially those with paranoid psychoses of any kind) not being more violent than the average person, HOGWASH!! As a nurse specializing in psychiatry at one point, I know from multitudes of exposure that this is not true. On a more personal level, I live with a very close loved one who is a paranoid schizophrenic, and I can tell you that violent outbursts can and do happen. What would anyone do if they believed that there were others set out against them? Your survival instinct becomes heightened the fight or flight type of reaction. Agitated states in these people must be handled with care. These people DO deserve compassion. They should not be ostracized and locked away. But, the realities of the conditions should be relayed to the general public (they most certainly are to family members) and appropriate treatment instituted. Why are we not seeing people on Zoloft or Paxil perpetrating the same sort of horrifying scenarios as so many on Prozac have? Since vaccines have been used to transmit agents with purposes other than the prevention of disease, it makes one wonder if we are really being told the truth about the drug Prozac. granddam
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Suggested Writers For Getting It
-Caveat Lector- das boot Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- ?Wasn't * Das Goat * the name of some artsy fartsy Kraut war movie Joshua2 - Das GOAT wrote: Subject: Suggested Writers For Getting It Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:18:26 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Dear R.U., I know you didn't ask, but thought I'd get you in touch with some writers that I think would be perfect for Getting It, snip Anyway, besides Jim Hogshire (who I already mentioned) and Richard Metzger, Kenn Thomas Jon Vankin (who go without saying), here they are. I made sure they are all stylistically aligned with the Getting It message: snip Das Goat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - I've always got a kick out of his internet writings. Haven't heard from him lately, but he sure does great work. snip Well, check them out if you want. I think all of them could fit in well with your vision, so wanted to pass the info along. Thanks, Robert Sterling DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: DANFORTH WACO PROBE CORRUPTED ALREADY
-Caveat Lector- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom." --- Albert Einstein Bard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DANFORTH WACO PROBE CORRUPTED ALREADY Subj:DANFORTH WACO PROBE CORRUPTED ALREADY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GARLAND FAVORITO) Former Senator John Danforth, the new independent counsel selected by Janet Reno to investigate the Waco cover-up has apparently managed to corrupt the investigation by his first official act as counsel. That act was to appoint as his chief deputy, the St. Louis U.S. Attorney, Edward L. Dowd, who is currently under investigation for misappropriating taxpayer funds that he used to help stop the repeal of the Missouri. concealed weapons ban. The evidence that Dowd used Justice Dept. funds to set up a mailing campaign, toll free number, lobbying materials and staff assistance was documented in an article by the Washington Times' Jerry Seper, who has rapidly become perhaps America's best investigative reporter. It appears that Dowd is the hit man designated to sabatoge the Waco investigation in much the same way as Mark Tuohey sabatoged the investigation into the death of VInce Foster. Tuohey was hired by Ken Starr despite the fact that he had a party for Janet Reno in his house. It was Tuohey's intereference that caused Miguel Rodriguez to resign citing ethics problem just after he had discovered upon the photographic evidence that Vince Foster was murdered by a bullet in the cheek. Starr onfirmed the Fiske ruling that Foster committed suicide despite the fact that Foster's fingerprints were not even found on the gun. The Danforth Waco probe is under the direction of deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, who refused to tap the phone line of Wen Ho Lee, the only rejection out of 2000 FBI wire tap requests. One of the first acts of Deputy Holder was to remove from the probe, U.S. Attorney WIllliam Johnston, the assistant U.S. Attorney in Waco. Johnston was the official who notified Janet Reno that the FBI was lying and allowed Rules of Engagement producer, Michael McNulty, access to the evidence. It is now clear that Janet Reno never wanted to be informed. Can everyone see where this Waco probe is going already? Garland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ESPFwd: Curbing Corporate Crime (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:06:25 -0700 Subject: ESPFwd: Curbing Corporate Crime from corp-focus: ...When we released the Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the 1990s, we received a message from Robert Waldrop, the director of the Archbishop Oscar Romero Catholic Worker House in Oklahoma City. Waldrop's Catholic Worker House feeds the poor, takes in people who are being evicted and generally helps those in need. Having worked with the poor, Waldrop has come to the conclusion that in this country "you get all of the justice that you can afford to pay for." That's why the prisons aren't overrun with the executives and shareholders of our major corporate felons. Waldrop has concluded that we should begin treating corporate criminals the way we treat street criminals. So, he drew up a list of "Necessary Measures for Curbing the Corporate Crime Wave." Waldrop wrote the list "tongue in cheek," but he has gotten such a rave response to it that he believes that it might be the basis for a political movement to curb corporate crime. After all, why should a corporate felon, its owners and managers, be allowed to influence our elections when an individual is stripped of his or her right to vote? It is time to start thinking about how to level the playing field. With Waldrop's permission, we hereby reprint his "Eleven Necessary Measures for Curbing the Corporate Crime Wave." 1. The stockholders and management of corporations convicted of felonies should lose their right to vote and run for public office. 2. A registry should be maintained in each area of criminal corporations, and any corporation convicted of a felony should be required to register with the local police. A notice should be sent to all of their neighbors that a criminal corporation is taking up residence in their locality. 3. Criminal corporations should lose all corporate welfare benefits and government contracts. 4. Criminal corporations should be required to make weekly visits to parole officers, and their stockholders and management should be subject to random drug tests (either urine or hair). 5. Criminal corporations should not be allowed to operate within 500 yards of a school, church or library. 6. Criminal corporations should be required to place the phrase "A criminal corporation" on all advertising, signs and vehicles as a public warning. 7. If criminal corporations violate the terms of their parole, their stockholders and officers should go to jail. 8. In addition to the fine on the corporation, the personal assets of stockholders should be forfeited for their criminal negligence and lack of oversight. 9. The increasing number of lawless corporations calls for stricter penalties. Bring back the death penalty for corporations. In this context, the 'death penalty' is the closure of the corporation, the forfeiture of its assets to its victims and/or the government and the winding up of its affairs by a court appointed receiver. 10. Stockholders and management should be required to wear monitoring bracelets for the duration of their parole, and may not travel outside of their jurisdiction without a written pass from their parole officer. 11. The stockholders and management of criminal corporations may not associate with the stockholders and management of other corporate felons, and are forbidden to keep and bear arms. Waldrop believes says that "the original conception of the corporation was limited -- there had to be a definite public service." "Now that whole concept has been stretched and there is no accountability," Waldrop says. He encourages readers to spread his list far and wide. And check out his other good works at his web site: http://www.justpeace.org. Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter. Robert Weissman is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Multinational Monitor. They are co-authors of Corporate Predators: The Hunt for MegaProfits and the Attack on Democracy (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1999; http://www.corporatepredators.org) (c) Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman [NOTE: This message is forwarded to you, with "ESPFwd" in the Subject: line, as a service from the Economic Security Project. To be removed from this list, reply to this message with "REMOVE." Feel free to forward this message to others. To be added to this list, send "YES ESPFwd" to Wade Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED].] -- Wade Hudson inlet.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be
[CTRL] The Kids in the Back of the Room /From the Brattleboro Reformer, 9/17/00 (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:50:43 EDT Subject: The Kids in the Back of the Room /From the Brattleboro Reformer From the Brattleboro (VT) Reformer, 9/17/99 (I thought of calling this "Fools Rush In" :-) Permission granted to distribute this article on the internet. Please include all credits and copyright. THE KIDS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM by Marty Jezer Two weeks after the school board meeting dealing with the issue of the Confederate flag, the kids who spoke up in behalf of the flag remain in my thoughts. A group of students, members of AWARE, were sitting towards the front of the Learning Center that night. They had issued a very intelligent statement that looked beyond the distraction of banning the flag towards the more substantial goal of getting the educational community to take concrete steps against racism. They had worked hard to get a diverse group of students to endorse their position -- the captains of the football and the girls' and boys' soccer teams, the presidents of the Chorus, National Honor Society, and the Student Council, even a young Republican. They did themselves proud. In the back of the room was a smaller group -- five or six in number -- that had come to defend the symbol of the flag. "The kids in the back of the room" is, I recall, how they referred to themselves and how others described them. In many other school districts, they would have represented the majority sentiment (and kids like the AWARE kids would have been dismissed as troublemakers), but at this meeting -- and in this community -- they were a distinct minority, and I respect their courage for publicly stating their position. When they came forward to speak, the kids in the back of the room each denied having racist sentiments. If they had any understanding of American history and what the Confederate flag has stood for -- slavery, the Klan, terrorism, and segregation -- they effectively hid that knowledge. I want to be a rebel, one girl asserted, and the Confederate flag was, to her, a symbol of the image she had of herself as a rebel. Being a bit of a rebel myself, I wanted to listen. The styles of teen-age rebellion often mask deep-seated class issues. We're just learning to talk about "race" in this country; we're still in denial when it comes to conflicts of class. I'm not sure I can shed any light on the murky currents of race and class in these 900 words -- or 9000. But we ought to be looking at what's happening here and so I'm going to try. Is the word "redneck" politically correct? It's a term that pushes people's buttons. To me, the kids defending the rebel flag were, whether they knew it or not, expressing some of the attitudes of redneck culture. "Redneck," the word, has come to mean more than the sunburnt necks of hard-working farmers. It's often taken as a synonym for good-old-boy white Southern culture, but it's distinct, or should be distinct, from Southern slave- holding culture, for Southern slave-owners produced no culture -- no music, no literature, no crafts, no nothing. Rednecks, on the other hand, have contributed greatly to American culture, most obviously with country music. They have also produced a frustratingly hopeful populist tradition which, at every turn, has been cursed and compromised by the Confederate legacy of racist politics. The redneck rebellion is complex. It's Southern-wing absorbed the Confederate mythology of a heroic-but-doomed lost cause. Plantation society did little for the majority of Southern whites except assure them that, however poor and miserable they were, they'd always have higher status than Southern blacks. Jim Crow was a legal-system designed to keep the non-slaveholding white majority one-step above the segregated blacks. Many Southern redneck bought into this system and, against their own best interest, enlisted to keep blacks down. The white South often assumes an attitude of victimization. A chivalrous civilization (which is the way the plantation South mythologized itself) was outgunned and outmanned by the industrial and immigrant North -- by foreignors! After the Civil War came scalawags, carpetbaggers, and, in the 1960s, civil rights workers -- all determined to trash the white Southern way of life . The civilization may be myth, but the victimization is often real. It's not the blacks or the civil right movement that victimized the redneck fragment of white working-class America. It's the global economy, the marginalization of small business and small farms and the loss of manufacturing jobs. Rednecks, as Nashville singers often remind us are a people living in declining communities and dead-end jobs. The country is changing but they are going nowhere. Economics, as well as racism, inspires redneck alienation. Racism is pervasive in our
[CTRL] ESPFwd: National Health Care Conference (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:47:18 -0700 Subject: ESPFwd: National Health Care Conference http://www.uhcan.org/ Advancing Health Care Justice UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PRIORITY 2000 1999 NATIONAL UHCAN! CONFERENCE for Grassroots Activists WHEN: October 22-24, 1999 WHERE: Washington Plaza Hotel, Wahington, DC PATIENT: U.S. health system PRESENTING SYMPTOMS: 43 million uninsured and rising costs soaring while profits climb growing problems with quality and absence of public accountability DIAGNOSIS: Health system in crisis, "free market" reforms making things worse TREATMENT: Comprehensive reform leading to universal health care as official policy of the United States REGIMEN: National campaign (U2K) to make UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE a priority in the 2000 election season Strengthen and link local coalitions working for health care justice Bring in broad new constituencies to help create a large voting bloc in U.S. Congress for 2001 and beyond PRESCRIPTION: Attend UHCAN! Conference October 22-24, 1999. The cure is attainable. Therapy ongoing ... Be there! This year's conference is coordinated with the Gray Panthers '1999 Convention. Both organizations share a passion for health care justice. Together we will share ideas and strategy. Separately we will celebrate and conduct our own business. -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] more rich guys (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- September 24, 1999 400 Richest in U.S. Top $1 Trillion By The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) -- The soaring stock market helped land 60 new names on this year's list of the richest Americans, turning 35 of them into billionaires, according to Forbes magazine's latest ranking of the nation's wealthiest people. Of the rookies, 19 made fortunes from Internet-related businesses, including Amazon.com chairman Jeffrey Bezos, ranked 18th with a net worth of $7.8 billion. Jay Walker, founder of the online merchant Priceline.com, who was ranked 43rd with $4.1 billion. Wall Street also helped some on the list become billionaires almost overnight. No. 68 Gary Winnick joined the billionaires club just 18 months after founding Global Crossing, which is building a global fiber optic telecommunications network. The 400 richest Americans for the first time have collectively amassed $1 trillion, a figure greater than the gross domestic product of China. The total number of billionaires on the annual list increased by 79 to 268, making 1999 the first time billionaires made up more than half the list, Forbes said in its issue dated Oct. 11. The minimum net worth needed to qualify for the Forbes 400 rose to $625 million from $500 million in 1998. Bill Gates retained his place as the richest of them all. The Microsoft Corp. chairman saw his net worth saw to $85 billion, up from $59 billion a year ago. Gates was twice as wealthy as the second richest American, Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, who has a net worth of $40 billion. Warren Buffett, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., ranked third with $31 billion. Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's president was No. 4 with $23 billion, and No. 5 was Dell Computer chief executive officer Michael Dell, with $20 billion. A college degree was not required to make the list -- at least 63 members never graduated college and their net worth averaged was $4.3 billion. Forbes said the 400 had an average net worth of $2.6 billion, which would give them a total worth around $1.04 trillion, up from $738 billion a year ago. Nearly 40 percent of the list, or 149 members, got rich the easy way: They inherited some or all of their wealth. Their average net worth was $2.5 billion. The 251 members who made it rich on their own had an average net worth of $2.7 billion. The average age of Forbes 400 members was 60, with financier Max Fisher the oldest at 91 and Daniel Ziff, of Ziff Brothers Investments, the youngest at 27. And nearly a quarter of the 400 live in California -- the state's 98 members on the list include many Silicon Valley and other high-tech executives. ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. Send complaints that can't be resolved by unsubscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jakarta Gripped by Second Day of Violent Protests (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:36:04 -0400 From: DAMN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DAMN: 24 SEP-1999: Jakarta Gripped by Second Day of Violent Protests Title: Jakarta Gripped by Second Day of Violent Protests Author: Associated Press Date: 24 SEP-1999 Source: "Ben Isitt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Style: News Story Violent protests gripped the streets of Jakarta for the second day Friday, as police struggled to contain crowds enraged by the passage of a bill giving the military power to revoke civil liberties. About 500 riot police stormed the Atma Jaya university campus before dawn, firing volleys of tear gas and rubber bullets. Inside the campus, police smashed the windows of buildings and cars, and then withdrew across Jakarta's main boulevard. Several hundred students were taunting the police. The clashes closed the thoroughfare, Sudirman Boulevard, into the city during morning rush hour, forcing tens of thousands of people to walk to work through tear gas, coughing and holding handkerchiefs to their faces. The demonstrations and violence began Thursday with Parliament's approving the bill, which gives the military more power in "emergency situations." Under the new law, the military can ban protests, take over the telecommunications system and mail service, and ignore existing laws guaranteeing human rights once a state of emergency is proclaimed. But many Indonesians, who have supported the country's recent hard-won democratic reforms, are adamantly opposed to the measure. Following the bill's passage on Thursday, about 5,000 protesters clashed with police on a highway leading to Parliament. "This government wants the military to take over everything," said Dani Syahrir, a 21-year-old computer technology student. "We, the students of Indonesia, absolutely reject that because it means the death of democracy." Reporters and protesters said three demonstrators were killed in Thursday's clashes with riot police in the capital, Jakarta. Officials and hospitals could not confirm the death toll, and there were no immediate casualty reports Friday. A total of 53 people were injured on Thursday, the SCTV network reported. At least four were rushed to the hospital with bullet wounds, while other bloodstained protesters were taken to a makeshift clinic at nearby Atma Jaya University. Cordons of riot police, carrying shields and wearing cumbersome protective gear, fired rubber bullets and volleys of tear-gas canisters on Thursday, clubbing demonstrators and passers-by whom they managed to corner. Protesters pelted police with stones, bottles and firebombs, and at least five officers reportedly suffered burns. Several police cars were torched. Demonstrators also ripped out metal highway dividers, bending them to block one of the city's main arteries. "We must destroy the Suharto-Habibie-Wiranto regime!" shouted a student who only gave his name as Handono. President Suharto, who ruled with an iron fist for 32 years, was ousted last year amid massive pro-democracy protests. He was replaced by protégé B. J. Habibie. Army commander Gen. Wiranto sponsored the new security bill. Last year's countrywide outpouring of discontent was largely sparked by the killing of several pro-democracy supporters in initial demonstrations. Thousands of protesters took to the streets in the country's second-largest city, Surabaya, and hundreds rallied on the resort island of Bali. Similar protests occurred in Semarang, Ujung Pandang and Yogjakarta. The military's near-total control over Indonesian society has been slipping since the downfall of Suharto's army-backed dictatorship. "The bill will be enacted not to serve the interests of the military but to safeguard the unity of the nation," Wiranto said. This is the DAMN News Email list http://damn.tao.ca To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asking to: unsubscribe damn ***DAMN DISCLAIMER - IMPORTANT PLEASE NOTE*** DAMN receives many unsolicited reports and tries but can not verify all information contained within. DAMN therefore disclaims responsibility for the information in this message and urges you to contact the reporter personally for further verification. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let
[CTRL] Rich quotes (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Attitudes of the Rich and Famous... The American system of ours, call it Americanism, call it Capitalism, call it what you like, gives each and every one of us a great opportunity if we only seize it with both hands and make the most of it. Al Capone The point is that you can't be too greedy. Donald Trump, Trump: The Art of the Deal (written with Tony Schwartz, 1987). Poverty is an anomaly to rich people. It is very difficult to make out why people who want dinner do not ring the bell. Walter Bagehot, 19th Century English economist Greed is all right, by the way . . . I think greed is healthy. You can be greedy and still feel good about yourself. Ivan F. Boesky, U.S. financier. Commencement Address, 18 May 1986, School of Business Administration, University of California, Berkeley. Boesky's words were later picked up in Oliver Stone's film, Wall Street (1987), spoken by Gordon Gecko. Boesky himself was later convicted of conspiring to file false documents with the federal government, involving insider trading violations, and agreed to pay $100 million in fines and illicit profits. The rights and interests of the laboring man will be protected and cared for not by our labor agitators, but by the Christian men to whom God in his infinite wisdom has given control of property interests of the country, and upon the successful management of which so much remains. George F. Baer (Railroad Industrialist) They don't suffer. They can't even speak English. Baer, answering a reporters' question about the suffering of starving miners Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. Economist John Maynard Keynes I love power. But it is as an artist that I love it. I love it as a musician loves his violin, to draw out its sounds and chords and harmonies. Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821), French general, emperor. Quoted in: Havelock Ellis, The Dance of Life (1923). Respectable means rich, and decent means poor. I should die if I heard my family called decent. Thomas Love Peacock (1785-1866), English author. Lady Clarinda, in Crotchet Castle, 1831 Socialism proposes no adequate substitute for the motive of enlightened selfishness that to-day is at the basis of all human labor and effort, enterprise and new activity. William Howard Taft, U.S. Republican president, Popular Government, 1913. I wasn't satisfied just to earn a good living. I was looking to make a statement. Donald Trump, Trump: The Art of the Deal, (1987; written with Tony Schwartz). We are not concerned with the very poor. They are unthinkable, and only to be approached by the statistician or the poet. E. M. Forster, British novelist, essayist. Howards End, 1910. A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise. Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, 1514. The Führer is always quite cheerful, cheerful with all his heart, when he is having tea with his friends during the night, or when he is training his dogs! Martin Bormann, German Nazi leader. Annotations to letter, Dec. 25, 1943, from his wife Gerda (published in The Bormann Letters, ed. by Hugh Trevor-Roper, 1954). Today, almost forty years later, I grow dizzy when I recall that the number of manufactured tanks seems to have been more important to me than the vanished victims of racism. Albert Speer, German architect, Nazi official. The Slave State, (1981). I tell you, sir, the only safeguard of order and discipline in the modern world is a standardized worker with interchangeable parts. That would solve the entire problem of management. Jean Giraudoux, French writer, diplomat Poverty is an anomaly to rich people. It is very difficult to make out why people who want dinner do not ring the bell. Walter Bagehot, 19th Century English economist Any man who pays more for labor than the lowest sum he can get men for is robbing his stockholders. If he can secure men for $6 and pays more, he is stealing from the company. Stockholder of American Wollen (Lawrence, Massachusetts) 1911 Told to the Rev. Harry Emerson Fosdick We'll drive the goddamned sons-of-bitches into the river and drown them. We'll starve them. We'll kill every damned man of them or drive them, together with the Socialists, from the city! Judge Davis, Minot, North Dakota, 1912, Referring to striking Wobblies. I don't believe that it's true that the poor will always be with us. I think that kind of pious fatalism is just an excuse for keeping things the way they are. Margaret Culkin Banning, The quality of Mercy, 1963 The poverty of our century is unlike that of any other. It is not, as poverty was before, the result of natural scarcity, but of a set of priorities imposed upon the rest of the world by the rich. Consequently, the modern poor are not pitied . . . but written off as
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Suggested Writers For Getting It
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-25 12:50:25 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ?Wasn't * Das Goat * the name of some artsy fartsy Kraut war movie Das iss goot. Are you thinking, perhaps, of "Das Boot"? ; ) PS: Contrary to rumor, Yours Truly is NOT a U-boat and not the least bit "Kraut." Nor am I a caprine quadruped -- except in the astrological sense (5 planets in Capricorn). DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/25/99 8:41:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our Collective Tombstone: Heres Lies Humanity The Earth Was Our Toilet Yup! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Sep 25
UNDERNEWS Sam Smith September 25, 1999 The Progressive Review 1312 18th St NW (Fifth Floor) Washington DC 20036 202-835-0770 Fax: 835-0779 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INDEX: http://prorev.com RECENT UNDERNEWS: http://prorev.com/indexa.htm TODAY'S HEADLINE NEWS: http://prorev.com/altnews.htm THE REVIEW UNCLASSIFIEDS: http://www.prorev.com/jobs.htm DONATIONS AND ORDER FORM: http://prorev.com/order3.htm UNSUBSCRIBE: Reply with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. READER'S FORUM: http://www.topica.com/lists/readers/read For a free subscription to our e-mail updates send your postal address with zip code. Copyright 1999, The Progressive Review. Matter not independently copyrighted may be reprinted provided TPR is paid your normal reprint fees, if any, and is given proper credit. Because of its quantity, TPR's mail is not always answered, but it is always read. The editor is cheered or remorseful as appropriate and posts some of the more interesting messages at http://www.topica.com/lists/readers/read. You can also post messages directly by signing in there. -- WORD A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. -- GK Chesterton. PALLS OF IVY Sometime in the 1980s, Yale University took control from Harvard of the mismanagement of American affairs. Gone were the Cambridge professors using a war in Vietnam as proto-Viagra and in their place came the unenhanced sexual adventures of Clarence Thomas. In fact, during that incident almost everyone involved -- appointer, appointee, major confirmers, victim, victim's defenders and victim's counter-accusers -- went to Yale. The big difference between having one's republic unraveled by Yale graduates as opposed to Harvard alumni is that while megalomania drives each, the Harvard trained mind seems more inclined to cloak it all in macro-political terms, while Yalies are happy to settle for shear, unadorned power. Thus while Kissinger got himself geared up with treaties, invasions and assassinations, Clinton's inspirations ran more in the line of cigars. When Kissinger referred to power being the ultimate aphrodisiac he was thinking globally; Clinton probably thought he was endorsing rape. The next time you see Al Gore on TV ask yourself just one question: would this man have permitted himself to be branded on the butt, a la Dubya, in order to become a member of the DKE fraternity? Then ask yourselves a second question: what is the inner meaning of this? TPR has no answer but merely points out that if GWB wins, we will be ruled by the third Yalie in a row, another alumnus of that purveyor of silly rituals, secret societies and the sense that one is entitled by birth and/or test scores to get away with whatever one can. This is a pretty weak argument for Al Gore but is the best we can think of at the moment. THE REAL WORLD GUARDIAN, LONDON: Researchers published a troubling report yesterday which claimed that one in two young men think that raping a woman is acceptable in certain circumstances, while one in four believe it is justifiable to hit a woman. The research carried out by the Zero Tolerance charitable trust, an Edinburgh-based group which campaigns against sexual and physical violence against women, also found that a third of all girls surveyed thought forcing a woman to have sex was acceptable in some circumstances. Academics from Glasgow and north London universities questioned 2,039 people aged 14 to 21 in Glasgow, Manchester and Fife to discover their attitudes towards violence and women One in 10 thought there was nothing wrong with raping a woman if the man was "so turned on he can't stop", while one in six said "if she'd slept with loads of men" was a valid reason. One in six of the boys questioned thought they might personally force a woman to have sex with them, while nearly one in 10 would rape a woman "if nobody would find out" [The researchers] found one in four young men thought hitting a woman could be justified if she had "slept with someone else". And one in eight said it would be OK to hit a "nagging" woman, while one in 10 said hitting a "disrespectful" woman was justified. Of the young women asked the same question, 12% thought it was acceptable for a man to hit a woman if she had slept with someone else, while one in 50 said hitting a girlfriend was justifiable. MARIA HINOJOSA, CNN: Nearly half of all gay and lesbian students don't feel safe at school, according to a first of its kind survey. Seventy percent of those polled said they had been taunted, sexually harassed, shoved, kicked, punched and even beaten. Most had frequent slurs hurled their way, and one third said some of the slurs came from their teachers. ECO NOTES GUARDIAN, LONDON: International opposition to American genetically modified food products has combined with mounting public anxiety in the United States to force a climb-down by Washington over food labeling
[CTRL] PLEASE RESPOND
-Caveat Lector- I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO ANSWER THIS SURVEY AND ADD ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. Dear Sir/Madam: I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself. My name is Fred R. Saluga. I am an ex-law enforcement officer and a former chief of police. I have numerous years experience in civil and criminal investigations an I am also a MUFON State Section Director and a licensed Private Investigator in the State of Florida. Law enforcement agencies are repeatedly involved with people reporting Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's), alien abductions, crop circles, cattle mutilations and other incidents related to the UFO phenomena. The majority of these witnesses are under great emotional stress and turn to the law enforcement community for help and guidance. For many years, law enforcement has borne the brunt of public concern in the persistent mystery of UFOs. There are numerous recorded cases of law enforcement officers who have had UFO sightings and there are many UFO reports on file within the law enforcement community concerning other types of UFO related incidents. It should also be noted that these experiences are not uniquely American - French, Italian, English, Canadian, Australian law enforcement officers and other law enforcement officers all over the world have frequently been involved in UFO sightings and other UFO related phenomena. I am presently conducting extensive research on the topic of "UFO'S AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE TO THE PHENOMENA" and would appreciate your assistance in assisting my conduct this research by completing the following survey that I have developed to assist me with this research. I would appreciate, if you have the time, if you could fill out the below listed survey and answer the questions with a complete and honest answer and not with just yes and no answers. I would like to thank you in advance for your time and cooperation regarding this research and all information that is forwarded will be deeply appreciated. UFO'S AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE TO THE PHENOMENA A. A common complaint among UFO witnesses and others who have had a UFO experience or encounter is that local law enforcement tends to be unresponsive to their claims and shows an unwillingness to get involved in UFO related incidents. Do you agree or disagree, please explain. B. Would law enforcement officers benefit by attending a training session on UFOs and UFO related phenomena to better understand the phenomena and better assist the community? C. Would you list the reasons that you believe that law enforcement does not want to become involved in the investigation of UFOs and other UFO related phenomena? D. Should law enforcement officers work with civilian UFO investigators to solve the UFO mystery? E. Should law enforcement work with local UFO investigators to advance the use of crime scene investigative techniques and promote the collection of forensic evidence? F. Law enforcement officers are the first to receive a report of UFO activity. How do you believe that they should proceed once they receive a report? G. Do you have any knowledge of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency that has investigated a UFO incident and made an official report on the incident and filed it with the department? If, so, please explain? H. Do you believe that local law enforcement would participate in a UFO COVER-UP, if so ordered by a higher branch of government? I. There are many psychological, physiological and adverse potentials associated with UFOs and UFO related incidents. DO you believe that law enforcement officers should receive training in the areas to better protect the community? J. Would you list the reasons that you believe that law enforcement officers are reluctant to discuss UFOs in public? K. I would appreciate your input as to law enforcement investigating abductions and also any types of evidence or investigative techniques that you believe may assist in these investigations. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS THAT I HAVE NOT COVERED REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATING UFO'S AND UFO RELATED PHENOMENA? I would like to thank you in advance for your time and cooperation regarding this research and all information that is forwarded will be deeply appreciated and assist me in conducting this research. I would also appreciate any articles that you may have on law enforcement's involvement in the investigation of UFO's and I will gladly pay for the copying and postage. Confidentiality will also be honored and no information will be released without prior permission. I would also appreciate if you could pass this survey to your friends and any law enforcement offices, if you know any, for their responses. Thank you, Fred Fred R. Saluga, 2731 BlairStone Road, #77, Tallahassee, Florida 32301 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Caveat Lector- I have already responded DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: mind control lecture website
-Caveat Lector- Brice Taylor is the highest level survivor of MKULTRA and government mind control ever to go public. In her new book, Thanks For the Memories: The Truth Has Set Me Free, she discloses hidden mechanisms used by nations' most ruthless oligarchs to control America, and reveals their intent to precipitate a global dictatorship. Ted Gunderson: Lectures and has published numerous reports and articles on satanism and missing children. Investigator for Dr. Jeffery R. MacDonald murders, the Franklin coverup (Neb.), McMartin preschool (Manhattan Beach, CA), the Oklahoma City bombing, and CIA drug smuggling. above excerpts from below website -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:07 PM Subject: mind control lecture website Due to the overwhelming response to the Brice Taylor/Ted Gunderson Lecture, we have developed a website. http://members.aol.com/castloc/control.html We have answered the most commonly asked questions first. It is still in development, so if your particular question has not been answered please be patient. We will have more in a few days. Or email us again. Tickets are going fast, so please reserve your seat (see website), if you havent already done so. Thanks, Annie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary / Sept 25 / Mark Weisbrot / WTO
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Michael Albert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is today's ZNet Commentary Delivery from Mark Weisbrot. To pass this comment along to friends, relatives, etc. please note that the Commentaries are a premium sent to Sustainer Donors of Z/ZNet and that to learn more about the project folks can consult ZNet (http://www.zmag.org) and specifically the Sustainer Pages (http://www.zmag.org/Commentaries/donorform.htm) which include lists of writers, writer biographies, and other features of the Z Sustainer Program. Please do not send the pages repeatedly to the same people -- people need to become Sustainers themselves. Here then is today's ZNet Commentary... - Growing Concerns Over World Trade Organization By Mark Weisbrot In just a couple of months thousands of environmentalists, steel workers, longshoremen, AIDS activists, farmers, and others will descend upon Seattle in a "mobilization against globalization." They will hold marches, protests, teach-ins, and conferences. The occasion? The World Trade Organization is holding a meeting of ministers from its 134 member countries, to talk about launching a new round of trade talks. The opposition's plans have already attracted more press attention than the official meeting. This suggests there is something big at stake here. There is. In fact, something big happened more than four and a half years ago, when the WTO came into existence, and our own membership was ratified by the United States Congress. But the consequences of this action are only now beginning to be understood outside of narrow policy circles. The new bureaucracy of the WTO was given the authority to determine whether national laws on such matters as environmental protection and food safety violate international trade rules. In other words, the burden of proof has shifted: for example, if our Environmental Protection Agency wants to regulate the content of gasoline in order to reduce pollution, it must be careful not to infringe upon the rights of foreign producers. This principle was actually tested when Venezuela, on behalf of its gasoline producers, challenged EPA regulations on gasoline quality at the WTO. In 1997 the WTO ruled in their favor. The EPA subsequently changed its regulations, weakening its ability to enforce federal air quality standards. Another WTO ruling last year undermined our Endangered Species Act. We have attempted to protect endangered sea turtles from extinction by requiring that shrimp fishing boats install devices that allow the turtles to escape the nets. The law applied to all shrimp sold in the United States, but the WTO ruled that this was unfair to other countries. This is a good example of how the trade principles embodied in the WTO erode environmental standards. We have these standards because the public has decided that certain protections of our natural environment are important. We are willing to pay a higher price for certain consumer goods, for example, in order to achieve these goals. But what happens when other countries-- and very often this means our own corporations producing in other countries-- do not make the same choice? If we cannot apply our standards to foreign-produced goods that are sold in the United States, these goods will simply drive American-made goods out of the market, and defeat the purpose of the environmental legislation. The WTO's critics argue that it is time to stop and assess the record of the last four and a half years, before creating any new rules. But the Clinton administration is having none of this: it's full speed ahead, not a moment to lose. The Administration might have an argument if it could be shown that we risk missing out on some great windfall. But the gains to the United States from the last round of the GATT (the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, the WTO's predecessor) have been estimated at less than $700 million a year. This is less than one-third the cost of one B-2 bomber. Against these meager gains we must consider the impact of trade on the distribution of income. As trade has expanded over the last quarter-century, the median real wage in the United States has actually fallen. There is no longer any doubt among economists that these two trends-- increasing trade and falling real wages-- are related. It's not hard to see why: without any standards for labor or human rights, increasing trade creates a "race to the bottom" for wages and working conditions in the same way that it undermines environmental standards. The broad-based challenge to the WTO reflects a growing awareness that the decisions of these powerful institutions-- including the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and others-- have a considerable impact on our lives and livelihoods. And unlike national governments, they don't have to care what any angry voters might think. You don't need a conspiracy theory
Re: [CTRL] teacher's unions
-Caveat Lector- Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In reply to the letter below, I wanted to say that teacher's unions fight for the children and the poor in the community. Teachers are paid less than almost any other profession. They often times work in dilapidated buildings without the resources some of us take for granted, computers, phones and sometimes pencils and paper, when the budget runs out. The attacks on teachers and teacher unions are attacks to hurt children and the poor. I have no problem with home schooling, but money earmarked for public education (basically education for the poor) should not be taken away. A flat tax rate only helps the rich. Sincerely, Neil Brick Here are excerpts from an article I wrote: Charter Schools are a Mistake In many charter schools across the country, teachers are denied the right to bargain, due process and tenure. This often means that schools can fire teachers without just cause. Some charter schools pay teachers as low as $9 an hour, with no benefits or overtime. One study has shown that in 10 of 11 of its schools, special education students constituted only 3 percent of the student population as opposed to 10 to 13 percent in the public schools and the 3 percent received only minimal services. (NEA Today Vol. 17, No. 7) As an article says, "for-profits in Massachusetts tend to treat disabled students as liabilities, and to serve "a lower percentage of students in the moderate disability categories than do local districts." In many cases...(they) actively discourage disabled students from attending..." Teacher unions are one of the few voices left in this country fighting policies that hurt children and the poor. Teaching jobs cannot be downsized, or shipped overseas. Charter schools can effectively, (by helping to weaken teacher unions,) at least in part, help eliminate these voices. Teachers are already one of the lowest paid professions in the country and most teachers are not paid for vacations or holidays It sounds very strange that the way "to reintroduce the arts into the public schools" and the way to "cure...ailing public schools" would be to fund charter schools and in essence take money away from the public schools. Many public schools in the poorer districts are severely under funded. Many school buildings are in horrible condition and special education programs are stretched to the limit, in part due to the increase in numbers of special education students due to cuts in social services (which can cause poor prenatal care, homelessness, etc.). The real solution is to pay teachers a living wage, not one where many teachers need to work a second or third job to survive, and to fund public schools properly, so that we can actually afford to have our own rooms and teachers for the arts. I am strongly for innovation in education. But teachers in the public schools are often so overworked and underpaid that it is almost impossible to do more than to teach the standards required by the state. Better pay and improved teacher-student ratio numbers would allow teachers to implement innovations. Better funding would allow us to do what the charter schools are doing, without offering the low teacher wages that many charter schools do. By funding charter schools, we may not be allowing those that need the money the most, the poor and developmentally disabled students, from receiving the services they need. We are in actuality taking more away from them. I strongly urge everyone reading this article to write your elected officials as many times as necessary to not only vote against the proposed increase in charter schools, but to demand that charter schools are either eliminated or are required to be part of the public school district in the towns they are in. That way all students, regardless of economic income or ability level, will receive equal and fair services. Date:Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:59:25 -0700 From:Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bauer: Home Schoolers on 'Cutting Edge' of Education U.S. Newswire 24 Sep 15:30 Bauer Says Home Schoolers on 'Cutting Edge' of American Education To: National Desk, Political and Education reporters Contact: Tim Goeglein of Bauer for President 2000, 703-933-2000; Web site: http://www.bauer2k.com WASHINGTON, Sept. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer, in an address to the Home School Legal Defense Association at Constitution Hall here today, said that home school families are on the cutting edge of American education, and that all families need and deserve a major tax cut. Bauer said it is unfair for families to continue to pay taxes, while corporations pay none. "Parents are children's foremost authority, and their first and best teachers," said Bauer. "They should decide how and where their children will be educated. Washington-based one-size-fits-all federal education programs cannot substitute for the love and care of parents. "The home schooling
[CTRL] Columbine: Hype School
-Caveat Lector- There's a long article at http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/index1.html about the investigation at Columbine HS. One finding follows: Inside the Columbine High investigation | page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 The biggest myths about the tragedy have to do with the question of who Harris and Klebold were really targeting in their rampage. Jocks, African-Americans and Christians have been widely described as their chief targets. Not a scrap of evidence supports that conclusion. In addition to voluminous evidence from the scene, Harris left behind a wealth of detailed plans and commentary making their targets plain. As can be seen, it runs five pages so the interested can peruse at leisure. AER AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Corporation Punishment
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.mojones.com/fotc/fotc3.html Taming the Corporate Criminal in 11 Easy Steps Bring back the death penalty for corporations, and other good ideas by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Sept. 21, 1999 Can it be any more clear that the national response to the corporate crime wave sweeping the country has been an utter and abysmal failure? This is to take nothing away from the hard-working prosecutors who bust their chops working day in and day out, with minimal resources, dodging political attacks from the corporate lobbyists whose primary job it is to keep the cops on their heels and off their case. For example, lack of enforcement of federal worker safety laws by Clinton administration has resulted in fewer inspections and fewer violations cited compared to prior administrations. Whose fault is that? Not the head of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, who claims in his defense that for him to do an adequate job, his meager $350 million budget, which is constantly under attack by the corporate crime lobby, would have to be bumped up to at least $7 billion. Same with antitrust enforcement. Between 1977 and 1997, the total budgets of the two primary antitrust enforcement agencies -- the Federal Trade Commission and the Justice Department's Antitrust Division decreased by 7 percent in constant dollars while the Gross National Product grew by 112 percent. Mergers have increased by 550 percent since 1992. According to Albert Foer, director of the American Antitrust Institute, the failure of antitrust enforcement has resulted in airlines that monopolize hub terminals, international cartels that cost consumers dearly, price fixing and bid rigging that are a continual abuse of the system, monopolies that can control the global flow of information, and agricultural, meatpacking and food retailing industries that are unduly concentrated. Even when the system works, and the prosecutors nail the criminals to the wall, what good does it do? The recent criminal convictions of major corporations for fixing the prices of vitamins in the United States resulted in two of the biggest criminal fines in the history of corporate crime. Earlier this year, Hoffman LaRoche pled guilty and was fined $500 million and BASF pled guilty and was fined $225 million for leading a worldwide conspiracy to raise and fix prices and allocate market shares for certain vitamins sold in the United States and elsewhere. Hoffman LaRoche and BASF alone control 80 percent of the vitamin market worldwide. What impact did the fines have on the behavior of these two criminals? It made them more aggressive in their desire to control the remaining 20 percent of the market. That's according to Eugene Reed, the Arkansas broker who first blew the whistle on the price fixing conspiracy. "They have become super aggressive and more committed (since their convictions)," Reed told us earlier this month. "They are already at the foot of the bridge. They sent signals into the marketplace. They want to drive all other vitamin suppliers out of the world market and control it themselves." The lesson: even the largest criminal fines ever levied in the United States were too small to affect giant multinational corporations. When individuals commit street crimes, on the other hand, they pay the price with a loss of freedom. That's why by next year, there will be two million inmates in U.S. prisons and jails and the United States will overtake Russia as the world leader in the rate of incarceration -- a rate six to ten times the rate of other industrialized countries. This rate of incarceration costs the nation about $40 billion a year. And it disproportionately affects poor and minority populations. One in three young African American men is now under supervision of the criminal justice system -- in prison or jail, or on probation or parole. A black male born today has a 29 percent chance of spending time in prison in his lifetime. (For more on how the United States deals with street criminals, check out the recently released Race to Incarcerate by Mark Mauer and The Sentencing Project (The New Press, 1999)). When we released the Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the 1990s, we received a message from Robert Waldrop, the director of the Archbishop Oscar Romero Catholic Worker House in Oklahoma City. Waldrop's Catholic Worker House feeds the poor, takes in people who are being evicted and generally helps those in need. Having worked with the poor, Waldrop has come to the conclusion that in this country "you get all of the justice that you can afford to pay for." That's why the prisons aren't overrun with the executives and shareholders of our major corporate felons. Waldrop has concluded that we should begin treating corporate criminals the way we treat street criminals. So, he drew up a list of "Necessary Measures for Curbing the
[CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- All GUNS in England have been seized by the Government and will be destroyed. British gun owners did not believe they would do it...its too late now. The message from (former) gun owners in England to gun owners in the States is...YOU ARE NEXT ADDENDUM Back in 1933 Roosevellt ordered all gold coins to be turned into the Federal Reserve. Only 10 percent were actually turned in. The other 90% are the gold coins you buy today in the coin stores . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Visa Vistas
-Caveat Lector- Published Date September 24, 1999, in Washington, D.C. www.insightmag.com A Visa for Castro's Terrorism Chief in Washington? By J. Michael Waller As President Clinton granted clemency to the Puerto Rican terrorists, the White House was pushing to allow Fidel's terrorism coordinator to set up shop in Washington. Picture: Amysterious White House push to allow one of Fidel Castro's top covert operatives to set up shop in Washington adds a new twist to the deepening controversy about President Clinton's August decision to free members of two Cuban-backed Puerto Rican terrorist groups. . . . . Insight has learned that while the White House prepared to grant clemency to 16 imprisoned terrorists, it pressured the State Department to grant a visa to Fernando Garcia Bielsa, a high-ranking Cuban Communist Party official in charge of supporting the very terrorist groups to which the prisoners belonged. The visa would allow Garcia Bielsa to work under diplomatic cover at the Cuban Interests Section on 16th Street in Washington, just blocks from the White House. . . . . Garcia Bielsa is not a typical gray apparatchik. As chief of the America Department of the Cuban Communist Party Central Committee, he is responsible for the party's covert operations -- including agent-of-influence activity and support for Puerto Rican terrorism against the United States. . . . . The America Department, known by its Spanish initials DA, long has been Castro's main instrument for coordinating terrorism in the Western Hemisphere. A 1975 Senate investigation on Cuban support for terrorism found that the DA began directing terrorist operations in Puerto Rico and in the Midwestern and Eastern United States in 1974. Senate hearings in 1982 revealed that Cuban intelligence "organized" the Puerto Rican Armed Forces of National Liberation, known by its Spanish acronym, FALN. The terrorists Clinton recently freed belonged to the FALN and a related group, the Boricua Popular Army-Macheteros, or the Macheteros. . . . . A 1981 State Department report says the DA was created "to centralize Cuban control over covert activities" in support of revolutionary groups in the hemisphere. Castro's KGB-like state intelligence service, the General Intelligence Directorate, or DGI, is a separate organization also used for terrorist support. . . . . Under U.S. law, State cannot independently issue visas to foreigners believed to be entering the country for the purpose of hostile intelligence activity. The Immigration and Nationality Act requires that such cases also must have the approval of the attorney general. And Attorney General Janet Reno -- a native of Miami with years of knowledge of how the Cuban regime works -- has not rushed her decision. But officials opposed to Garcia Bielsa's visa are concerned that Reno will cave in. A Justice spokeswoman, Kara Peterman, told Insight at press time that she had no information on the issue. . . . . Before the Clinton administration took the reins of the federal government, the Cuban Interests Section contained 24 staff, nearly all of whom were intelligence agents, according to a Cuban-American National Foundation study by Rex A. Hudson. Today, the espionage presence there is nearly double that number, according to a congressional source, while U.S. intelligence presence at the U.S. Interests Section in Havana is "meager" by comparison. . . . . An intelligence source tells Insight that Garcia Bielsa personally oversaw the funding and direction of the Macheteros, a clandestine militant organization that seeks to convert Puerto Rico into an independent, Marxist-Leninist state. Machetero members offered clemency were serving time in connection with the 1983 armed robbery of a Wells Fargo armored truck in Connecticut to finance their terrorist activity. . . . . A 1988 federal report on terrorism signed by then-vice president George Bush, who headed the Task Force on Combating Terrorism, termed the Macheteros "a tightly controlled and extremely violent Puerto Rican terrorist group that has targeted primarily U.S. military personnel and Puerto Rican police The stated position of the group is that they have 'declared war' on the United States." . . . . One of the Machetero members involved in the Wells Fargo robbery, Victor Manuel Gerena, remains on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list. A U.S. Information Agency international crime alert says Gerena "escaped to Cuba." . . . . Cuba also continues to provide asylum to FALN fugitives, including bomber William Morales, who escaped in 1979 while serving a 99-year sentence for bombing and murder, fled to Mexico where he killed a policeman and was granted asylum by the Castro government. Clinton granted clemency to Morales' common-law wife, Dylcia
Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/25/99 4:48:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All GUNS in England have been seized by the Government and will be destroyed. British gun owners did not believe they would do it...its too late now. The message from (former) gun owners in England to gun owners in the States is...YOU ARE NEXT Hey Thanks! Is this a truncated version of those stupid NRA ads that are on UHF channels?? Or a rewrite of their throwaway mail requests for a handout? Bill (A gun owner with NO use for this PAC. F*** The NRA! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WTO: China
-Caveat Lector- Via www.insidechina.com/news.php#?id=94673 Gee, could this be the Same Mr. Chris Patten who is nailing down the Nothern Ireland agreement of late? AER Saturday, Sep 25 at Prague 02:03 am, N.Y. 08:03 pm Editor's Pick: NEW Survivors Count Blessings, Mourn The Dead On Usually Festive Autumn Holiday Picture: What's new on ChinaNews Headlines Taiwan Quake Rescue Spurs Further Efforts Patten Hopes For Chinese WTO Entry Before New Round In November Hong Kong Rescuers Take Part In Taiwan Quake Rescue China Asks Taiwan If It Wants UN Aid Zhu Underfire As Party Celebrates 50th Anniversary Pensioners In China Vow To Protest Until National Day China Steps Up Crime War With Mass Executions As Anniversary Nears FBI Studies New Evidence In Chinese Spying Case More headlines Patten Hopes For Chinese WTO Entry Before New Round In November WASHINGTON, Sep 25, 1999 -- (Agence France Presse) EU Commissioner for External Relations Chris Patten said Thursday he hoped China would be able to join the WTO before a new round of global trade talks is launched in November. "The EU supports very much China's accession to the WTO provided we can agree on reasonable terms on both sides," Patten told reporters on the sidelines of the World Bank and IMF annual meetings here. Asked if China would be able to join before the new WTO round is launched in Seattle, Washington on November 30, Patten said "I hope so because it becomes more difficult once you start the negotiations." "The simplest and the cleanest thing is to get any arguments for accession by any members out of the way before the Seattle round starts," he added. He said that "nobody should underestimate the degree of restructuring" which China has already carried out. "Given how (far) they have traveled in recent years it should be possible to do these last 10 meters." Patten, who met with Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan in New York on Monday, said he welcomed China's resumption of talks with Washington on its WTO accession but stressed "it is important to talk to us as well." While there is a "big overlap" in the issues of concern to the United States and European Union in China's accession, the issues are "slightly different," he said. Chinese and US officials are to resume talks on China's WTO bid in Washington on Tuesday, after a suspension imposed by China to protest the US bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade May 7. China has also indicated it is ready to resume talks with the EU, but no date has been set. China has been seeking accession to the WTO for 13 years but has been unable to reach agreement on how far it should pledge to open its markets in order to qualify for entry. ((c) 1999 Agence France Presse) AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as
Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- tTHIS IS FOR REAL ON TV AN HOUR AGO. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/25/99 5:11:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tTHIS IS FOR REAL ON TV AN HOUR AGO. Yeah, an Infomercial for the NRA, right! I love it!!! "On TV an hour ago"...therefore it just MUST be true! LOL!!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] possible resources for survivors
-Caveat Lector- Below please find two URL's with information for survivors of abuse and those interested in these issues. Survivors may want to use caution at these pages. Sincerely, Neil Brick http://www.sover.net/%7Eschwcof/newshead.html AMERICAN COALITION FOR ABUSE AWARENESS NEWSLETTER The PTSD Bibliography, an annotated list of books and articles from many publishers about post-traumatic stress disorder. Unspeakable Truths and Happy Endings: Human Cruelty and the New Trauma Therapy, a full-length book for survivors of human cruelty and for survivors' friends and family. The book decodes many of the controversies about recovered memory. Open Letters Regarding "False Memory Syndrome", of special interest to survivors of incest and other forms of human cruelty. The Recovered Memory/Psych Law Newsletter, a monthly publication that provides a comprehensive, practical, and informational outlet for lawyers and for psychology professionals who provide plaintiff expert witness services in sexual abuse cases. The purpose of RMPLN is to bridge the gap between psychology and the law through the collection and dissemination of information. The Survivors' Voice, an online research area for legislation pertaining to child abuse. "They Do Remember: a story of soul survival," Sandy Robins, a child abuse survivor, is spreading the word about positive choices, prevention and hope: "I want to let people who were abused as children know that they have choices other than continuing to be victims or perpetrators." Protest Quebec's failure to protect sexually abused children. Survivors of sexual and spiritual abuse. http://www.sidran.org/ A national non-profit organization devoted to education, advocacy and research related to the early recognition and treatment of trauma-related stress in children and the understanding and treatment of adults suffering from trauma-generated disorders DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- correction . Checked it out ...it was an infomercial for NRA, Yure right. Checked with British sources. Nothing there. Stupid NRA isnt gonna make any friends this way. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world
-Caveat Lector- At 06:02 AM 9/25/99 GMT, you wrote: ENFORCED population control infringes on human freedom and human dignity as much as restrictions on freedoms of worship, association, and exchange of ideas. -- SM: When this earth is all said and done I hope it is not said that the human race killed itself because it did not want to feel infringed upon by the reality of its situation. This earth could sustain 20 times the current population if managed properly. The problem is not overpopulation, it's greed, envy, poor management, worldwide socialism, multi-national corporations, globalists, and corrupt governments and people that is the problem. But for discussion sake, let's say overpopulation is fact. The only humane way to reduce the population in the numbers the psycho-pseudo-science sociopath elitists are calling for is an all volunteer system. One must of their own free will volunteer to be put to death. No one can be forced to surrender their lives for population control. However, it should be law that all Population Control Advocates MUST volunteer to be put to death. And they MUST die first. Then all others that would volunteer. This would show leadership by example, and would also save the Population Control Advocates from being the hypocrites that they would be if they refused to volunteer. Anything else would be unfair. I wish to remain alive, however I would like to volunteer my services in helping the Population Control Advocates on the way out the eternal door. - Hurling aside the United Nations and trampling its Charter, NATO proclaimed to the whole world and to the next century an ancient law -- the law of the jungle: he who is mighty is completely right. If you are technically superior, excel your condemned opponent in violence a hundredfold. And they want us to live in a world like this from now on. In the sight of humanity a beautiful country is being destroyed while civilized governments applaud. And desperate people leave bomb shelters and come out as living targets to die for the salvation of Danube bridges... Is this not antiquity? I do not see why Clinton, Blair, and Solana would not tomorrow burn and drown them. -Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Moscow, April 8, 1999. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) Fw: What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:55:28 -0700 From: To: undisclosed recipients Subject:Fw: What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army? http://www.doubleought.com/1pistol.html WHAT GOOD CAN A HANDGUN DO AGAINST AN ARMY.? By Mike Vanderboegh 5 December 1998 A friend of mine recently forwarded me a question a friend of his had posed: "If/when our Federal Government comes to pilfer, pillage, plunder our property and destroy our lives, what good can a handgun do against an army with advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles, planes, or whatever else they might have at their disposal to achieve their nefarious goals? (I'm not being facetious: I accept the possibility that what happened in Germany, or similar, could happen here; I'm just not sure that the potential good from an armed citizenry in such a situation outweighs the day-to- day problems caused by masses of idiots who own guns.)" If I may, I'd like to try to answer that question. I certainly do not think the writer facetious for asking it. The subject is a serious one that I have given much research and considerable thought to. I believe that upon the answer to this question depends the future of our Constitutional republic, our liberty and perhaps our lives. My friend Aaron Zelman, one of the founders of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, once told me: "If every Jewish and anti-nazi family in Germany had owned a Mauser rifle and twenty rounds of ammunition AND THE WILL TO USE IT (emphasis supplied, MV), Adolf Hitler would be a little-known footnote to the history of the Weimar Republic." Note well that phrase: "and the will to use it," for the simply-stated question, "What good can a handgun do against an army?", is in fact a complex one and must be answered at length and carefully. It is a military question. It is also a political question. But above all it is a moral question which strikes to the heart of what makes men free, and what makes them slaves. First, let's answer the military question. Most military questions have both a strategic and a tactical component. Let's consider the tactical. A friend of mine owns an instructive piece of history. It is a small, crude pistol, made out of sheet-metal stampings by the U.S. during World War II. While it fits in the palm of your hand and is a slowly-operated, single-shot arm, it's powerful .45 caliber projectile will kill a man with brutal efficiency. With a short, smooth-bore barrel it can reliably kill only at point blank ranges, so its use requires the will (brave or foolhardy) to get in close before firing. It is less a soldier's weapon than an assassin's tool. The U.S. manufactured them by the million during the war, not for our own forces but rather to be air-dropped behind German lines to resistance units in occupied Europe. Crude and slow (the fired case had to be knocked out of the breech by means of a little wooden dowel, a fresh round procured from the storage area in the grip and then manually reloaded and cocked) and so wildly innaccurate it couldn't hit the broad side of a French barn at 50 meters, to the Resistance man or woman who had no firearm it still looked pretty darn good. The theory and practice of it was this: First, you approach a German sentry with your little pistol hidden in your coat pocket and, with Academy-award sincerity, ask him for a light for your cigarette (or the time the train leaves for Paris, or if he wants to buy some non-army-issue food or a perhaps half-hour with your "sister"). When he smiles and casts a nervous glance down the street to see where his Sergeant is at, you blow his brains out with your first and only shot, then take his rifle and ammunition. Your next few minutes are occupied with "getting out of Dodge," for such critters generally go around in packs. After that (assuming you evade your late benefactor's friends) you keep the rifle and hand your little pistol to a fellow Resistance fighter so they can go get their own rifle. Or maybe you then use your rifle to get a submachine gun from the Sergeant when he comes running. Perhaps you get very lucky and pickup a light machine gun, two boxes of ammunition and a haversack of hand grenades. With two of the grenades and the expenditure of a half-a-box of ammunition at a hasty roadblock the next night, you and your friends get a truck full of arms and ammunition. (Some of the cargo is sticky with "Boche" blood, but you don't mind terribly.) Pretty soon you've got the best armed little maquis unit in your part of France, all from that cheap little pistol and the guts to use it. (One wonders if the current political elite's opposition to so-called "Saturday Night Specials" doesn't come from some adopted racial memory of previous failed tyrants. Even cheap little pistols are a threat to oppressive regimes.) They called the pistol the "Liberator." Not a
[CTRL] Fw: [smashthestate] NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Kay Lee Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Undisclosed-Recipient:; Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: [smashthestate] NEW LEVEL IN WAR ON DRUGS From: "Kay Lee Joe Hart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: It's the same old story - if the grassroots folks don't get involved it AIN'T GONNA WORK. - CC: The War on Drugs is about to be lifted up another rung. The hysteria has risen to the point where we may soon see soldiers in our streets - if the "border" troops miss someone, what is the next step; send them into the cities. I remember visiting Cuba as a young boy before Castro's revolution. I still have pictures I snapped of guys I thought were cops standing on street corners with machine guns hanging from their shoulders. I don't want to see that here. The terrible mistakes being made by our highly trained civilian drug forces should be reason enough not to bring the military into the fray. Army training, except at the highest levels, is highly incompetent. It's very difficult to "flunk" and when it happens the penalty is to be recycled back through the same sorry program again. This is a very dangerous step our congress is about to take. ** Washington, D.C. - A House-Senate conference agreement on the defense bill includes a provision directing the Pentagon to develop a plan on how the military can better assist law enforcement agencies in interdicting drugs along the border and stopping terrorists from entering the United States. The provision represents a modification of an amendment authored by U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant, Jr. (D-Ohio) that was attached to the House-passed version of the bill last June. The Traficant amendment authorized the use of U.S. troops to assist civilian law enforcement in patrolling the border. "Narcotics is still the number one problem in America," said Traficant, a former drug counselor and sheriff. "You can have all the counseling programs in the world and a million cops on the street, but unless we get serious about stopping drugs from pouring over the border, America will never win the war on drugs." Later today the House will consider the conference report on the fiscal year 2000 Defense Authorization Act. The measure authorizes $288.8 billion in fiscal year 2000 for defense programs. Last June the House approved an amendment sponsored by Traficant authorizing the use of U.S. troops to assist the Immigration and Naturalization Service and Customs Service in interdicting drugs at the border and apprehending terrorists attempting to enter the country. Under the Traficant amendment, which the House approved 242 to 180, the troops could only be deployed at the request of the Attorney General or Treasury Secretary. The amendment also required the troops to be under the command and control of a civilian law enforcement official, and that they receive law enforcement training. The amendment was similar to measures Traficant attached to the defense bill in 1997 and 1998. In both those years the amendment was dropped from the bill in conference with the Senate. The compromise provision included in the conference report directs the Secretary of Defense to prepare a plan to assign members of the armed forces to assist the INS or Customs Service in responding to a threat to national security posed by the entry into the U.S. of terrorists or drug traffickers. Like the Traficant amendment, the provision directs the Secretary to ensure that the plan does not violate the Posse Comitatus Act and that military personnel assigned to such activity receive law enforcement training. The Pentagon must submit a report to Congress no later than May 1, 2000 that includes the troops on the border plan, a risk-benefit analysis, recommendations on the functions most appropriate to be performed by military personnel in support of civilian law enforcement, and the total number of active and reserve armed service personnel who participated in drug interdiction or other civilian law enforcement support activities in fiscal year 1999. "For more than five years I've been fighting to get the military more involved in stopping drugs and terrorists from coming into America," said Traficant. "This language marks an important step forward in better securing our borders and protecting American citizens from the narco- terrorists. If the Pentagon can send troops to places like Haiti to vaccinate dogs, direct traffic and build homes, it certainly can send troops to our border to stop drug traffickers and terrorists," added Traficant who served as director of the Mahoning County (OH) drug program from 1971 to 1981, and Mahoning County sheriff from 1981 to 1985. CC: If our information is correct, this may also be in direct conflict with Canadian and Mexican treaties signed by the U.S.
[CTRL] Rapid Reaction against UN Foes?
-Caveat Lector- Rapid Reaction against UN Foes? The International Plan for a UN Police Force Stationed Around the World by Berit Kjos www.crossroad.to "As professional volunteers develop into a cohesive UN force, they can assume responsibility for some of the riskier operations mandated by the Council but for which troop contributors have been hesitant to contribute . Without the need to consult national authorities, the UN could cut response time significantly. . . . As the 1995 Commission on Global Governance noted, 'It is high time that this idea - a United nations Volunteer Force - was made a reality.'"1 Towards a Rapid Reaction Capability for the UN "Governments are understandably reluctant to commit troops rapidly for UN action, particularly in civil wars and internal conflicts ."2 Our Global Neighborhood, The Report of the Commission on Global Governance --- In the near future, could the United Nations actually place its own police force in our communities to quell local conflicts? Worse yet, would it have authority to deal with the mere risk of such a conflict? Would this intrusive militia bypass U.S. authorities in order to fulfill any UN Security Council command? The answer to all three questions is an alarming "Yes." Consider the evidence: 1. In 1998, the Clinton administration quietly gave the UN $200,000 as seed money to establish the a UN military operation called the Rapidly Deployable Mission Headquarters. A UN Secretariat official who prefers to remain anonymous explained the need for such "backdoor support." It was "because of the political sensitivity over creating an army under UN command and political authority." 3 According to George Archibald, who reported this incident in his Washington Times article, "White House backs standby U.N. army," the UN official indicated that Canada and the Netherlands are primary backers of this UN force. Thats true, but the USA has been actively pursuing this goal together with Canada. 2. In 1995, a detailed report titled Towards A Rapid Reaction Capability for the United Nations was prepared by an International Consultative Group co-chaired by Sir Brian Urquhart of the Ford Foundation and Dr. John C. Polanyi, Nobel Laureate of the University of Toronto. This Group consisted of "experts drawn from governments, academic institutions and non-governmental organizations" and included U.S. leaders such as Dr. Jessica Mathews, Senior Fellow, Council on Foreign Relations. Published by the Canadian government, it called for UN management of satellite surveillance, information systems, databanks, and every other technological tool for managing people. It concluded that - "As long sovereign states retain the right to decide on the deployment of their national units, there will never be complete assurance that a UN force can meet an urgent situation on time . . . ." 4 "Command, Control, Communications, Computer and Intelligence systems (C41) would incorporate the full range of strategic and tactical communications networks, together with data processing capabilities and real-time information transfer . " A number of UN Member States are bound to be wary of systems and equipment designed for advance surveillance, intrusion detection, early warning and enhanced analytical capabilities, even if similar systems are already part of the national inventories of neighbors or adversaries. Some of these systems might be considered too "intrusive" for use by an inter-governmental organizations. Even if these political hurdles can be overcome, acquisitions of these capabilities face enormous financial obstacles . . . . "A prudent, long-terms approach would focus initially on the acquisition of advanced communication/information management systems for UN headquarters and the field. These would be "secure" systems which could readily be linked electronically to a variety of national systems provided to the UN under memoranda of understanding. The UN could then build upon this base . "5 3. What if this plan conflicts with U.S. laws, American values, and our national sovereignty? It doesnt matter, according to Sir Brian Urquhart and Erstine Childers. Political obstacles may slow, but not block, the move toward an international police force under UN Command. Their 1993 statement was quoted in the above report, Towards A Rapid Reaction Capability for the United Nations: "The fact that the theoretically best solution is not at present politically feasible does not mean that the system must simply muddle on indefinitely in its present condition. A great deal can be achieved without constitutional change, by changes in such salient features as geography, legal mandates and behavior."6 Does that statement sound familiar? A mere Constitutional objection cannot stop these visionaries. Nor can national laws or public opinion. After all, laws can be reinterpreted and public opinion manipulated. As long as the mainstream media can win either the
Re: [CTRL] Things Are Gonna Slide! -various
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/24/99 11:07:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone doubts the late Gen. Willoughby's fascist agenda [which would account for my hypothesized link-up between the "Yamato gold" in postwar Asia and billions secreted by the Nazis after 1944 as "insurance," for financing a future Fourth Reich], note how his patrimony converges with that of Gen. Singlaub -- i.e., the recruitment and training of racist military types to constitute a "leaderless" fascist strike-foirce modelled on Central American "death squads," awaiting social anarchy as THEIR opportunity to take over and, disguised as "patriotic defenders of liberty," co-opt any "revolution" aand steer it in a direction leading to a consolidation of neo-Nazi military power in the United States. As projected in George Bush's and Ollie North's "martial law" training exercise called "Operation Garden Plot," our "secret government" expects to ACTUALLY hand over all power to restore "law and order" --a role intended for the National Guard acting under FEMA-- to its "moles" in hate-groups such as the KKK, Aryan Nations, and the like ... Are these "agents in place" simply getting restless from waiting too long for the power promised them by their controllers, or are their repeated emergence as "lone nuts" in "random" acts of racial violence occurring right on cue, to justify a mass disarmament of the American people, stripping them of all defense against a "Nazi" military coup? I'm with you on this. I believe that the upsurge in these "lone nut" acts is in accordance with a general trend of escalating violence which is definitely part of a plan. The resurrection of a dead ideology, the Fourth Reich (not really dead just removed to a place below scrutiny and out of the minds of those who might see them) by the elitist regime of Police State politicians in this country (and elsewhere I am sure, particularly Germany) is exactly where this is heading. The idea of a Brown Shirt force of Goons, and ruffians that the Nazi's had in the early days (later purged, and replaced with the much more ruthless and better trained SS) is exactly in accordance with the rise of the Third Reich. The "right wing extremists", racists, and Identity types all fit the mold of what those original Brown Shirts were as well. Another interesting observation; since the original Brown Shirts were purged, could the action of those who are committing these acts NOW be a warning to those in power that THEY will not be put away as easily as the original was? The next question is if they are meant to be "put away" once the Fourth Reich Fascist Police State is in full swing, then what is the group meant to replace them? Elite Military? A group we haven't seen yet? Perhaps special forces who are aligned with FEMA? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] http://www.ctrl.org
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/25/99 3:12:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: from: http://www.ctrl.org/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"Welcome to Conspiricy Theory Research List/A - Finally, Om K Hooray and Yippee!! This is something I've been hoping for some time. A home at last! Great job and mucho kudos Kris. I hope EASTERISLE will be doing some of the backgrounds and artwork, he really does some good stuff. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: [TheEagle-L] Illuminati]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [TheEagle-L] Illuminati Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:24:00 -0400 From: "Webmaster for Enoch Graphics" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post Number 224: The Illuminati This is an extremely interesting and necessary Post, and it is an excellent follow-up to Post 201, Anthony Sutton. With this, it is necessary to look at Posts 84 and 85 Occult Symbolism in Washington, DC. When you read this, remember the underbelly of the Illuminati, which is the International BAR and the American BAR Associations. Without the Lawyers working diligently with the banksters and the Illuminati, nothing of what is written herein could be accomplished. If you are to understand Post 155: Gun Control IV and the entire so-called issue of gun control, this information is necessary. Without understanding this Post, the real reasons behind what is going on is going to continue to be a mystery to you. When you read this, please note that while Myron Fagan well understands the subject of this Post, which is the Illuminati, he does not understand the Constitution nor the intent behind the document. My next Post will be Number 240, The Constitution. You will understand better once you read that Post, if there is any doubt left in you after reading this. Just remember, the issue for all of these parasites is they need you to support their filth and perversion. They have no desire, nor ability, to product, as such, they need to feed from your labor, and that is what this is all about. Money. For the love of money is the root of all evil. Some day, when the people of this world begin to take His Work seriously, then the wars will stop, for then the people will quit volunteering to serve as cannon fodder for the elite in their games of nonsense called wars, which are simply to kill off enough to scare the rest into submission. Read on, dear friends, and learn, please. Absolute must reading! http://www.crocker.com/~acacia/article.html SOURCE: http://www.ptialaska.net/~swampy/illuminati/cfr_1.html THE ILLUMINATI AND THE COUNSEL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS By MYRON FAGAN (A Transcript) The Illuminati and CFR ABOUT THE SPEAKER "WHO'S WHO IN THE THEATER" has always been the Bible of the People in the Legitimate Theater. It never played Favorites, it told no lies, it Glorified nobody. It always was an unbiased HISTORY of the men and women in the Theater. It recorded only those who proved their worth in the one AND ONLY ONE - testing place of the Theater. BROADWAY: That "WHO'S WHO" records the plays Myron C. Fagan wrote, directed and produced ... Dramas, Comedies, Melodramas, Mysteries, Allegories, Farces - many of them the most resounding "HITS" of their years. He arrived on Broadway in 1907, 19 years old, the youngest playwright in the history of the American Theater. In the following years he wrote and directed plays for many of the GREATS of those days ... Mrs. Leslie Carter, Wilton Lackaye, Fritz Leiber, Alla Nazimova, Jack Barrymore, Douglas Fairbanks, Sr., E.H. Southern, Julia Marlowe, Helen Morgan, etc, etc. He directed Charles M. Frohman, Belasco, Henry W. Savage, Lee Shubert, Abe Erlanger, George M. Cohan, etc, etc.. In the 5 years between 1925 and 1930 he wrote, personally directed, and produced twelve plays: "THE WHITE ROSE," "THUMBS DOWN," "TWO STRANGERS FROM NOWHERE," "MISMATES," "THE FASCINATING DEVIL," "THE LITTLE SPITFIRE," "JIMMY'S WOMEN," "THE GREAT POWER," "INDISCRETION," "NANCY'S PRIVATE AFFAIR," "SMART WOMAN," and "PETER FLIES HIGH." During his early years; Mr. Fagan was also "Dramatic Editor" for "The Associated Newspapers," including the "New York Globe" and various Hearst newspapers. But in 1916 he took a "SABBATICAL" from the Theater and served as "Director of Public Relations" for Charles Evens Hughes; the Republican Candidate for the Presidency - he refused a similar post offered him for the Hoover campaign in 1928; thus, Mr. Fagan's career encompassed the Theater, Journalism and National Politics, and he is a proven expert in all those fields. In 1930; Mr. Fagan came to Hollywood where he served as "Writer Director" with "Pathe Pictures, Inc.," then owned by Joseph P. Kennedy, father of the late President Jack Kennedy, and also at 20th Century Fox, and other Hollywood Film Studios. But he also continued in the Broadway Legitimate field. In 1945, at the urgent request of John T. Flynn, the famous author of "THE ROOSEVELT MYTH," "WHILE WE SLEPT," "THE TRUE STORY OF PEARL HARBOR," etc.; Mr. Fagan attended a meeting in Washington D.C. where he was shown a set of Micro Films and Recordings of the SECRET meetings at Yalta attended only by Franklin Roosevelt, Alger Hess, Harry Hopkins, Stalin, Molotov, and Vishinsky when they hatched the plot to deliver the Balkans, Eastern Europe and Berlin to Stalin. As a result of that meeting; Mr. Fagan wrote two plays: "RED RAINBOW" (in which he revealed
Re: [CTRL] Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99 NY Times
-Caveat Lector- We can always hope. FWP. [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex; http://www.alternatives.com/fc DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JFK Jr., Generous to the End
-Caveat Lector- By Samuel Maull -- The Associated Press N E W Y O R K, Sept. 24 John F. Kennedy Jr. left his personal property to his sisters three children and money from a multimillion-dollar trust to family, friends and charities. Kennedys will, filed today in Manhattan Surrogates Court, does not state the value of Kennedys estate but says it is worth more than $1 million. Kennedys net worth had been estimated as ranging from $30 million to $100 million. Will From Two Years Ago The document, signed Dec. 19, 1997, fails to specify monetary bequests except to say several beneficiaries are provided for through a trust that Kennedy established in 1983. Kennedy, 38, his wife, Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, 33, and her sister, Lauren Bessette, 34, died after the single-engine Piper Saratoga airplane he was piloting plunged 1,100 feet into the waters off Marthas Vineyard on July 16. In addition to getting all of Kennedys personal property, the children of Kennedys sister will also receive bequests under his 1983 trust. The children of Caroline Kennedy and Edwin Scholossberg are Rose Kennedy Schlossberg, 11, Tatiana C. Kennedy Schlossberg, 9, and John B. Kennedy Schlossberg, 6. Loyal Staff Were Also Mentioned Kennedy also left financial bequests under the 1983 trust to people who worked for his parents. They include Ephigenia Pinheiro, the personal assistant to his mother, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, and Marta Sgubin, a former Kennedy family cook and governess to him and Caroline. Another beneficiary is Rosemarie Terenzio, Kennedys assistant at George, the social and political-interest magazine he founded. Kennedy also left money to charities and institutions, including Reaching Up Inc., a New York organization for the mentally disabled, and the John Fitzgerald Kennedy Library Foundation Inc. in Boston. There was no mention of his magazine or how his interest in it should be handled. Anthony Stanislaus Radziwill, Kennedys first cousin, was named as executor, but because Radziwill died of cancer last month, another Kennedy cousin, Timothy P. Shriver, was named to perform those duties. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UN Presses for Gun Control
-Caveat Lector- U.N. Discusses Gun Control Measure By PETER JAMES SPIELMANN .c The Associated Press UNITED NATIONS (AP) - In a bid to curb civil wars, ethnic massacres and terrorism, the U.N. Security Council on Friday discussed an initiative by the U.N. chief to implement greater gun-control measures around the world. At the end of the first ministerial debate on small arms, council members called for new measures to discourage arms from reaching conflict zones and also called for effective implementation of arms embargoes. ``Small arms and light weapons are primary tools of violence in many conflicts taking place in the world,'' Annan told the council. ``The proliferation of small arms, ammunition and explosives has also aggravated the violence associated with terrorism and organized crime. ``Even in societies not beset by civil war, the easy availability of small arms has in many cases contributed to violence and political instability,'' he said. With at least 200 million firearms are owned by American citizens, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright announced the United States would refrain from sellings arms to war zones not already covered by arms embargoes. ``We encourage other nations to establish and observe such moratoria,'' she said. ``We have passed laws making it illegal for traffickers subject to American law to broker illicit deals anywhere. We ask others to crack down on brokering as well.'' British Foreign Minister Robin Cook told the Council: ``It is a tribute ... that nuclear weapons have never been used for half a century, and that chemical weapons have rarely been used. ``However, over the same period the assault rifle has become the weapon of mass killing. ... Over the last decade alone, conflicts fought with only small arms have killed over 3 million people, mostly civilians,'' Cook said. ``Five million dollars will buy approximately 20,000 assault rifles - enough to equip the army of a medium-sized state,'' he noted. The ministers met to discuss a report by Annan which recommended among other things: Better enforcement of U.N. arms embargoes on nations and regions in conflict. Nations should require arms manufacturers to put serial numbers and identification marks on weapons so the diversion of legitimate sales into the black market can be monitored. Nations should share information on the registration of guns and on legal transactions, in order to trace black market deals. Clinton, Reno Condemn Killings By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Americans must find a way to protect young people - ``as if it were our own children being targeted'' - President Clinton said Thursday as he and Attorney General Janet Reno decried the latest deadly shootings. ``Yet again, we have seen a sanctuary violated by gun violence, taking children brimming with faith and promise and hope before their time,'' Clinton told reporters at the White House. ``We know we have to redouble our efforts to protect our children,'' the president said. He expressed sadness for Wednesday's attack on Wedgwood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, where a gunman killed seven worshippers and wounded seven others before killing himself. ``We know we have to act as if it were our own children being targeted,'' Clinton said. Earlier, during her weekly briefing, Reno also deplored the carnage. ``The thought of gunfire in a place of worship should be inconceivable. But for families, for others last night, the inconceivable became a reality,'' she said. ``In 1999 alone, we have watched as innocent people were gunned down while attending school, while walking home from a church or synagogue, while playing at a summer camp, while working in their offices, while delivering mail and now while worshiping in their church,'' she said. Clinton, who has urged Congress to pass laws restricting sales at gun shows and requiring childproof locks, made no mention of gun control Thursday. But he said the attack underscores the need to address a rise in gun violence. ``We know that there is nothing we can do to assure that this will never happen,'' Clinton said. ``But there is a lot more we can do to assure it will happen more rarely. I can only hope that the shock of this event will spur that kind of action.'' Reno, meantime, said gun control must be among the steps to lessen violence. ``I would hope that people would look, not just at what handguns have done to America this year, not in the context of this case, but what handguns have done to America over the last many years, and that this nation would listen to its people who again and again cry out ... asking government to make sure that we take reasonable steps to ensure that guns are not placed in the hands of people who are not lawfully entitled to have them,'' she said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990925b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No effete Eastern elites equivocated during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Urban Decay Makeup: http://www.urbandecay.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Alien Earths. OUR FIRST GLIMPSES of Earthly worlds beyond the Solar System may be coming into focus, say two teams of astronomers. Independently they have found two promising candidates for low-mass planets that could play host to life. http://www.newscientist.com:80/ns/19990925/newsstory8.html : What's your favorite low-mass planet? How much life can you take? How much effort would residents of other low-mass planets expend to take ours away?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Y2K: Buckle Up - What To Do If Lights Go Out. Don't worry about looters, electric failures, or martial law. Nope, it's those darned traffic lights that might just bring society to its knees on 1 January 2000. Darkness, darkness: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21948.html : Do you look forward to the fall of civilization? Will it come 1/1/2000 or must we wait longer? Are you impatient? Will you sabotage traffic lights?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SCI-BUY. Industry funding fuels perception of science for sale - Dilemma growing over how to sort science from self-interest. http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/scitech/docs/sciforsale21.htm # Perils of Ideological 'Science'. Scientific theories have statements that can be used to confirm predict natural phenomena. To date, evolution has done both; creationism has done neither. We need to learn from the Soviet experience of Lysenkoism the dangers of applying ideology to science. http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/25/015l-092599-idx.html : Is any science pure? Are you? Is any science for sale? Are you? Is science corrupt? Are you? Is perception of corruption more damaging than reality?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Spirits in the Silicon World - MIT theologian looks to smart robots for insight into religious questions. For thousands of years, mythical robots have been used to explore the question of what makes humans human. In the Middle Ages, Jewish cabalists spun myths about golems, clay creatures animated by the secret name of God. The ancient Greeks sought to create a homunculus, a tiny proto-person servant. More recently, Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" creature and the android "Star Trek" crew member Commander Data have raised the question: "Can man-made creatures have souls?" Anne Foerst's job is to ask that question, but not about mythical creatures. As resident theologian at the Artificial Intelligence Laboratory of Massa- chusetts Institute of Technology, Foerst has spent the past 4 years pon- dering how increasingly smart machines may affect our sense of humanity. http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/1/living/docs/034386.htm : Do you have a 'soul'? How can we tell? Are you robotic? Is a sufficiently complex robot theologically indistinguishable from a human? Are some humans robotic? Must robots evolve souls, just like humans? Is 'soul' a gift? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Very early musical links - Chinese flutes are 9,000 years old. (Newsday) They won't be tooting music from Mozart's "The Magic Flute" on them any time soon, but Chinese researchers have found what might be the oldest playable musical instruments on Earth. Made from wing bones of red-crowned cranes: http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/world/docs/flutes23.htm : What animals would you like to kill to make musical instruments? Would you dry hollow-out a snake to use as a dijiridu? Would you turn blowfish into rattles? What would you kill to make guitars, saxophones, tubas, xylophones? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NASA-Rama: # NASA Abandons Search For Orbiter. With the Mars Climate Orbiter almost certainly destroyed, NASA is calling off the radio search for its where- abouts. http://www.space.com/news/planetarymissions/mars_mission.html # Safeguarding the Next Mars Probe. The loss of the latest Mars probe won't affect its sibling mission already en route to the red planet. But will NASA scientists ever get over the loss? Don't cry for me, Canaveral: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21947.html # NASA Chief to Space Business: Loss of Orbiter Illustrates Risk: http://www.space.com/news/goldin_990924.html # 'Privatize NASA Now'. A space exec sez the govt should divest part of its operation to business so NASA can concentrate on the outer limits: http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21955.html # Congress to NASA -- 'Safety is Good, But What Does It Cost?' http://www.space.com/news/spaceshuttle/shuttle_hearing_990923.html # One Giant Step for Imaging. It was d
[CTRL] JFK jr.
-Caveat Lector- Are youse guys conspiracy coverup artists, or merely clueless? Looks to me like you're just another of many elitist/government propaganda organs. Your hack-piece on JFK jr. assassination is remarkable for a site called "conspire.com" Overall- a brief overview of your large site shows quite a bit of support for the Clinton political machine, and what could only be described as a disinformationist propagandizing regarding such speciousness as: "As for the Clinton murder theory -- well, as much as we like long lists of dead people, we hate to tell you but there's no way that Clinton killed any of them." Another part of your DISinformation site proudly proclaims: "There is no evidence that anyone other than Oswald was involved in the actual shooting. The only remaining question is whether anyone put him up to it. There is no evidence of conspiracy" Who ARE you, really- who pays you? Guess no one will ever know the answer to THAT question... Clearly however- you've got definite agendas that are NOT related to putting out the truth. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] unsettling...
-Caveat Lector- Hey Trudy, That is a very interesting observation, 'bout the Denver area cable TV programming... why would "they" keep programs containing airplane/weather disasters such off the air? Pretty odd, considering that Boulder is home to NCAR, and Denver to huge DIA... This is in Boulder: http://www.ncar.ucar.edu/ The National Center for Atmospheric Research (as in THE national center for) (Wanna see official evidence of climate / "earth" changes?) Collaborates with (our buddies): NASA The National Aeronautics and Space Administration FAA The Federal Aviation Administration. NOAA The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration NSF The National Science Foundation DOE The Department of Energy One of their research projects is "ACACIA" http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/ACACIA/ A Consortium for the Application of Climate Impact Assessments (ACACIA) recently (1997)obtained sponsorship from NCAR and three private-sector research institutions: Japan's Central Research Institute of the Electric Power Industry (CRIEPI) **what an acronym! **, the U.S. Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI), and a similar energy research body in the Netherlands, KEMA Boulder is a stones throw from Denver http://www.auto-trol.com/Images/Maps/denverboulder.htm Your message also jogs the memory regarding oddness surrounding Denver International Airport (one of the largest in the world). Said to be the site of massive underground excavation; super-secret military-style NWO facility. UFO people claim there's a "reptilian" base there. Some very odd murals are there (anyone seen 'em in person?) full of Masonic symbolistic imagery. http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/ The Queen of England has reportedly been buying up property in Colorado under a proxy. There is a lot of "secret society" symbology at the airport, an AWFUL lot in fact The symbolism apparent in the layout of the new Denver airport, some feel, says that it may be a control center for world control Specifically, those involved in some very unusual government projects in the past, have remarked that the Denver area is where the establishment of the Western sector of the New World Order will be in the United States. Denver is of very high altitude and ideal for safe underground building The dedication or capstone of the new Denver Internation Airport is a masonic symbol. If you visit the airport's south eastern side of the terminal you will find the Masonic Capstone in Granite. This part of the terminal is called The Great Hall, which is known in Masonic lingo as their meeting hall. On the Masonic Capstone is inscribed NEW WORLD AIRPORT COMMISION. An eyewitness who has since "committed suicide" named Phil Schneider was a whistle blower re: Denver International Airport's underground facilities He helped build the underground facilities and reportedly "killed" himself via a double tie catheter behind his own neck strangling himself. It goes without saying that it appears that he was MURDERED. Phil also worked on other government underground facilities such as Area 51 and Dulce and more. See http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357/ Which is a tribute to Phil, although I cannot vouch for the site myself In the same general area as the Masonic capstone, there are Masonic designs inlaided in the floor, such as the expression DZIT DIT GAII, [anyone know EXACTLY what that means?] Phil Schneider's father was a U-boat captain during the NAZI regime. Apparently DZIT DIT GAII refers to the BLACK SUN some sort of NAZI symbology. NAZI's apparently were into "BLACK SUN" worship, i.e. Saturn, i.e. Satanism, should not surprise us, I suppose There are many murals at the airport of an EXTREMELY grotesque and apocalyptic nature. After looking at the murals many come away saying that they may represent what the elites plan to do with us and world One of the murals depicts 3 caskets containing dead people, each person representing people who the elites may want dead Black woman, a Jewish woman, and an American Indian Woman The casket ritual is common in the Skull Bones Club whose members include George Bush In the same mural is shown the destruction of city and forest, a little girl holding a Mayan Tablet that predicts destruction of Civilization Another Mural depicts a green giant "Darth Vader" like figure wearing a gas mask destroying a city In this mural women can be seen carrying DEAD BABIES Another mural depicts a German boy collecting from all the other children of the world, all of the worlds weapons the German boy has a HUGE IRON FIST and is pounding all the weapons into plowshares on an anvil Operation Paperclip was a plan wherein NAZI's were brought into the US to be brought back into power after being financed and appearance altered Many German nationals have been seen along Americans in more sensitive areas of the airport's underground facilities on a regular basis The LUFTWAFFE has long had an EXTENSIVE base in New Mexico complete with towns where all signs are in
