[CTRL] Uncle Sugar Shore Am Sweet
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.heritage.org/views/2001/ed010302.htm }}}Begin Distributed nationally by Knight-Ridder/Tribune News Wire Hiding Scottie Pippen By Mark Tapscott WARNING! Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle doesn't want you to know the following information, so please do not read this article. Basketball star Scottie Pippen played for some great Chicago Bulls teams and won multiple NBA championships. Then, as now, he also pulled down some hefty paychecks. This year, for instance, Pippen will make $18.1 million playing pro hoops for the Portland Trail Blazers. Believe it or not, Pippen is an accomplished farmer as well. He must be. Why else would the federal government pay him more than $130,000 over a five-year period in Soil Conservation Reserve funds? Technically, Uncle Sugar paid Pippen not to grow anything on his Arkansas farms. Uncle Sugar is paying big bucks to other famous folks, too, including Sam Donaldson of ABC News, CNN founder Ted Turner, and David Rockefeller, former chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank and grandson of oil magnate John D. R ockefeller Jr. Even former Washington Post Managing Editor Ben Bradlee received federal money under the program a couple of years ago. None of these facts would be known were it not for the labors of the Environmental Working Group (EWG), a Washington-based non-profit organization that recently posted a comprehensive database of Agriculture Department sp ending on its Web site. The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requires federal agencies to make such data public. But that could change if Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., gets his way. He tried valiantly before the Christmas break to gain passage of a farm bill approved by the Senate Agriculture Committee that included an obscure measure o riginally authored by the panel's chairman, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa. Daschle failed, but the measure -- which would exempt huge amounts of information from disclosure under the FOIA -- is far from dead. Small wonder: It would allow government bureaucrats to keep such potentially inconvenie nt facts as Pippen's tax-paid bounty out of public view. According to an EWG analysis of the committee's farm bill, the measure would preclude the public from examining all conservation plans, plans that contain information such as practices to be adopted by the farmer or land owner, as well as a timetable for implementing and the amount of federal cost-share dollars to implement the plan. Among the Agriculture Department operations that would be off limits to public examination: Emergency Watershed Protection, Farmland Protection Program, Flood Risk Reduction Program, Wetlands Reserve Program, Wildlife H abitat Incentives Program, Grazing Lands Conservation and the Forestry Incentives Program. As much as $4 billion annually in federal agriculture spending would disappear from public view. Things such as the Scottie Pippen farm payments would become, literally, state secrets. Washington politicians could rest easy, knowing there would be no more embarrassing newspaper articles about the millions in taxpayer dollars being handed out to sports figures, media celebrities and corporate fat cats. If the measure ever does become law, how long before somebody else in Congress decides other federal programs should be exempt from public examination? If farm conservation programs should be exempt, why not put all of th e government's welfare programs or all of the public health programs behind closed doors? Or any other government program that somebody in Congress or the White House fears might harbor scandalous or wasteful spending? It requires breath-taking arrogance to propose such an exemption. The Daschle-Harkin proposal is nothing less than a slap in the face of the public's right to know what our government is doing with billions of taxpayer do llars -- or who benefits from federal programs. Instead of drawing a curtain over parts of our government, Congress should be shining light on more of the federal behemoth. How can we hope to have confidence in what our elected officials are doing unless the public's b usiness is done in public? ### Mark Tapscott is director of the Center for Media and Public Policy at The Heritage Foundation (www.heritage.org), a Washington-based public policy research institute. 01/03/02 The Heritage Foundation is committed to building an America where freedom, opportunity, prosperity and civil society flourish. © 2001 The Heritage Foundation. 214 Massachusetts Ave NE | Washington DC 20002-4999 | ph 202.546.4400 | fax 202.546.8328 | Read Privacy Statement. Have a question? Ask Heritage at http://www.heritage.org/search/. End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
Re: [CTRL] Saturday Funnies-ATTORNEY GENERAL:AMERICA MUST CEASE TO BE A LUR...
BF>You are both wrong. Pornography is the evil inclination's way of destroying America. Unfortunately, pornography is becoming the mainstream of life. i mean this in a very cosmis sense. I was recently terminated from a job because I was standing for integrity and justice in the midst of a very corrupt environment. This is pornographic, just as much as were the statues Ashcroft covered. Only Ashcroft is not going to to investigate the corruption that surrounded me because there would be a few booby traps in his way, to say the least. In any case, the following is America's salvation, the Seven Laws of Noah, once again. While I may not agree with everythingh said at this link, it is worthwhile to look. The ADL does not stand for this, nor does Larry Flynt. They are too blinded to see. HaShem seems to have blinded most of humanity to the truth, but it will be revealed in good time. You'll see. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/reading-lists/general/section-9.html Bates William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 2/2/02 11:53:41 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember Bill pornography is now being mainstreamed assisted by ADL and Larry Flynt, front man for the mob and drugs and pornography as America forges the way to true land of Sodom and Gomorrah - get the picture? I know, I know...still I must tell you that I like Mr. Flint and also I enjoy porn now and then...a guilty pleasure? Nah. Irregardless, the statues that church lady-like Ashcroft has issues with are far from "pornographic". Bill.
[CTRL] (Fwd) FC: South Carolina secretly creates children's DNA datab
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- [Ick. Another example of why government privacy invasions are so chilling. --Declan] --- From: John Cieciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: State of mistrust Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:06:03 -0600 http://www.goupstate.com/docs/Opinion/Editorials/5878.asphttp://www. goupstate.com/docs/Opinion/Editorials/5878.asp J. Cieciel --- Published: February 21, 2002 State of mistrust South Carolina agencies continue to violate citizens' privacy. This time the state is distributing our children's DNA. Lawmakers need to institute firmer rules on the collection and distribution of individuals' personal information. _ Once again South Carolina's state government has proven that it can't be trusted with the personal information it demands from its citizens. South Carolinians had hoped it was a fluke when the state sold the information on 3.5 million people's driver's licenses to a New Hampshire company without their permission or even notification. Citizens thought that the outrage from that incident surely would make state officials more responsible about how they handle the personal information citizens are forced to give the state. But last week South Carolinians learned that -- without their knowledge or permission -- the state had created a DNA library on our children. By law, babies are tested for specific genetic diseases after they are born. The state Department of Health and Environmental Control has been saving all of those samples since 1995 in a special deep freeze facility. State officials told us not to worry. These genetic blueprints of our children are safe with them. This information could not be misused. This week we learned that the information has already been misused. Without the permission of these DNA donors or their parents, the state has given some of the samples to a genetics laboratory and gave others to the State Law Enforcement Division to help start a DNA databank there. Are there any parents left who still trust the state with this information? It's not likely. Do South Carolinians want a genetics lab experimenting on their children's DNA? Did state officials ever think to ask? And what right does SLED have to include our innocent children's DNA in its databank? Legislative remedies for this problem have been discussed in Columbia. They range from the immediate destruction of the DNA samples held by DHEC to a system in which parents can instruct the state not to keep their children's samples. Clearly, the state must institute a process that -- at a bare minimum -- requires DHEC to get parental permission to keep the samples. [...] -- --- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -- --- --- End of forwarded message --- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Annan Thumbs Nose @ ATF ?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020221-14729320.htm }}}Begin The Washington Times www.washtimes.com Assault rifles for Annan guards investigated Stewart Stogel SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published 2/21/2002 NEW YORK The U.S. government is investigating whether the United Nations illegally imported and issued paramilitary assault rifles to Secretary-General Kofi Annan's security detail. Sources in the U.N. Security and Safety Service say that the members of Mr. Annan's personal protective detail have been using the German-made MP5 submachine guns since 1998, despite an apparent failure to obtain U.S. clearance for their use. U.N. officials say that the use of the highly restricted firearm has been cleared with U.S. authorities. But Mike Campbell, a spokesman for the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, confirmed in an interview that an inquiry into the U.N. personnel's use of the weapon was initiated two weeks ago. The dispute is made even more sensitive by the fact that Mr. Annan himself led a U.N. effort last summer to stem the production and sale of small arms around the world, an effort that drew criticism from U.S. gun-own ership groups and from the Bush administration. There is no single tool of conflict so widespread, so easily available and so difficult to restrict as small arms, Mr. Annan told a special meeting of the Security Council in July. The MP5, described by its German manufacturer Heckler and Koch GmbH as a paramilitary assault rifle commonly used by police SWAT squads, is just one of several varieties of assault weapons currently in the possessi on of the United Nations, said one U.N. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. America's use of the MP5 is normally limited to law-enforcement organizations, Mr. Campbell said. Importation of the submachine gun is tightly controlled, he said. The United States does not consider the U.N. security service a law-enforcement organization and thus deems it ineligible to possess weapons such as the MP5, according to a State Department official. If the United Nations had applied for permission to obtain these guns, most likely it would have been rejected again, said the official, who requested anonymity. The State Department official said the United Nations first approached the U.S. government for permission to purchase the MP5 in early 1998 and was refused. Just how Mr. Annan's security detail obtained the weapons i s the focus of the U.S. government probe. Michael McCann, who has directed U.N. security operations since 1994, refused to comment on the issue, but U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard denied any wrongdoing. Mr. Eckhard said he had checked with the security service and was told that all the necessary licenses for the weapons carried by U.N. personnel had been obtained. I flatly reject the notion any laws have been broken, he said. An American citizen and a veteran of the New York Police Department, Mr. McCann has been a frequent target of criticism by both U.N. diplomats and staff over security at the New York site. On September 11, it took hours to evacuate the U.N. headquarters after the plane attacks on the World Trade Center; employees at the Twin Towers were evacuated in 45 minutes. Several staffers described the evacuation process as mass confusion. Umberto Ravalico, Mr. McCann's predecessor, rejected the use of the MP5 guns. U.N. sources said that Mr. Ravalico felt they were too dangerous for use within New York City. Although the United States cannot control the use of such weapons inside the U.N. compound, U.S. laws do apply if the weapons are carried outside. Documents obtained by The Washington Times indicate that U.N. submachine guns frequently leave U.N. headquarters, accompanying Mr. Annan on trips around the New York area and for use in target-practice sessions for U .N. officers at a shooting range on Long Island. A U.N. document on training standards for security officers appears to note the sensitivity of taking the MP5 outside the U.N. headquarters building. For the twice-yearly proficiency tests required for security officers, the officers and the weapons are transported to the range in a vehicle provided by the U.N. security service. If officers travel to the range on their own, they cannot bring their firearm with them. Under no circumstances should a United Nations weapon be transported in a private vehicle, according to a U.N. instruction sheet titled Qualification on the Service MP5. The passage is highlighted in bold-face ty pe. Conventions on diplomatic immunity do not apply to weapons possession. A survey of the United Nations' five permanent Security Council members the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia found that only U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte was assigned an armed
[CTRL] Bill Jeff Shoulda Gone to the Sorbonne
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,653761,00. html }}}Begin Paris dispatch Sexual politics Sexual charisma has always been central to the popularity of France's leaders - so it's no surprise that the presidential race is getting particularly steamy, writes Jon Henley Jon Henley Thursday February 21, 2002 The Guardian Is Lionel Jospin sexy enough to be the next French president? In a country where women make up 53% of the electorate, the question is by no means irrelevant - and it is increasingly preoccupying his supporters. In an announcement whose only surprise came in the timing, the Socialist prime minister confirmed y esterday that he would challenge the incumbent Jacques Chirac for the presidency in this spring's e lections. He might have hoped for a resounding roar of approval from France's women. Besides appointing a rec ord number of women ministers to his cabinet, Mr Jospin has, after all, done some undeniably good t hings for women. Over the past five years, his government has pushed through legislation extending the legal period for abortion, forcing political parties to field as many female as male candidates in elections, an d encouraging companies to review same-job salary discrepancies between the sexes. But that is not, it seems, enough to win him the lion's share of the female vote. Unfortunately, we couldn't give a damn about the political parity law, said Francoise le Cornec, editor of Jeune et Jolie magazine. The problem is that Lionel Jospin isn't in the least bit seductive. He has no charisma whatsoever, he's gangly and gauche and far too serious. In fact he's the absolute personification of anti-sexy . A survey published in Elle magazine last week showed 52% of women planned to vote for Mr Chirac, ag ainst 48% for Mr Jospin. Although most said they based their choice on the candidates' programmes, 22% cited personality as the main factor and 3% put charm first. So while the candidates' sex appeal may not prove central to the outcome of the two-round president ial vote on April 21 and May 5, it could very well tip the balance if, as almost all the polls are predicting, the Chirac- Jospin race proves a genuinely tight one. Mariette Sineau, a poll organiser, points out that Mr Jospin tends to attract marginally more votes from younger, active women, while the conservative Mr Chirac wins hands down with older women. The real problem for the S ocialist candidate, she says, is structural: once past the age of 65, there are far more women vote rs than men. But many younger women disagree with Ms Sineau's analysis. Women don't appreciate Jospin because he's just not sexy, said Claire Dabrowski, head of the wome n's cable channel Teva. He has these big bulging eyes and always looks as if he's about to tell you off. In short, you can 't exactly imagine a wild night of love with him. Jacques Chirac's image among women voters, on the other hand, is apparently that of the warm, dynam ic and loveable rogue. There's just a lot more to him, said Ms le Cornec. Plus he's got the reputation of being a bit of a ladies' man, that's always an asset with women. P hysique is important for us, you know. For Ms Dabrowski, Mr Chirac is plainly much more of a lover of life, an epicurean, which appeals t o women too. Women expect a political leader to be a bit sexy, to protect them, to take them under his wing. Jospin just d oesn't have that, he's too internalised. Chirac very much does. So Mr Jospin, whose oft-stated aim is to be judged on his record in government alone, is being forc ed to reconsider his image, albeit with reluctance. He recently changed his spec frames, has ditche d his dull blue suits i n favour of smart pinstripes, and even attempted the odd smile during television interviews. He has also told the nation that he wants to be the candidate of desire - a theme Mr Chirac picke d up and clearly tried to improve on last week, when he officially launched his re-election campaig n, by declaring himself the nation's candidate of passion. I think the rhetorical strategy itself says a lot about the two candidates' personalities, said p sychoanalyst Jean-Pierre Winter. Jospin's whole attitude says: 'I desire you if you desire me', while Chirac's says: 'How can you not be passionate about me when I am passionate about you?' So there you have it. Desire, passion and sex-appeal could decide who becomes the next president of France. Whatever happened to politics? Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002 End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + +
Re: [CTRL] Saturday Funnies-ATTORNEY GENERAL:AMERICA MUST CEASE TO BE A LUR...
define pornography. or... tell me, is all representations of a nude animal of our species pornography? if not- what makes a nude representation of our species porn and what is not porn? i like a bit of porn i must say, but i have noticed (in my somewhat extensive research of this subject arf arf) that there is a definate difference (this must be subjective) between a nude that gets me hot and a nude that just makes me in awe of the beauty of the miracle of the human body. i think the statues are of the latter variety. i do not think there is a line between the two- but it is very rare that what i find truly beautiful also excites me in a sexual way. i can point to this, this and this and tell you definately which of these things are porn and which are "art" but i am certain that this is only my beholding eyes... to simply cover up ALL nudity because some of it may be found stimulating by some people is disingenuous as the victorians discovered- all it does is create fetishism and extremism. at least when people have the freedom to express and indulge their own sexual tastes- it is out in the open and more easily monitored... thus allowing more black and white definitions of right and wrong can be identified- i.e. don't mess with kids and don't do anything to anyone that they don't want. beyond that it is personal tate and personal rights. My God says nudity is just fine... my God does not take shit from other Gods- certainly not from the Gods the government may choose to believe in. My personal right should not be defined by Gods i simply do not believe in. that would just be immoral, wouldn't it? - Original Message - From: Man on the Run To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Saturday Funnies-ATTORNEY GENERAL:"AMERICA MUST CEASE TO BE A LUR... BFYou are both wrong. Pornography is the evil inclination's way of destroying America. Unfortunately, pornography is becoming the mainstream of life. i mean this in a very cosmis sense. I was recently terminated from a job because I was standing for integrity and justice in the midst of a very corrupt environment. This is pornographic, just as much as were the statues Ashcroft covered. Only Ashcroft is not going to to investigate the corruption that surrounded me because there would be a few booby traps in his way, to say the least. In any case, the following is America's salvation, the Seven Laws of Noah, once again. While I may not agree with everythingh said at this link, it is worthwhile to look. The ADL does not stand for this, nor does Larry Flynt. They are too blinded to see. HaShem seems to have blinded most of humanity to the truth, but it will be revealed in good time. You'll see. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/reading-lists/general/section-9.html Bates William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 2/2/02 11:53:41 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember Bill pornography is now being mainstreamed assisted by ADL and Larry Flynt, front man for the mob and drugs and pornography as America forges the way to true land of Sodom and Gomorrah - get the picture? I know, I know...still I must tell you that I like Mr. Flint and also I enjoy porn now and then...a guilty pleasure? Nah. Irregardless, the statues that church lady-like Ashcroft has issues with are far from "pornographic". Bill.
[CTRL] Bees Leaving the Hive
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/jubilee/story/0,11550,654101,00.html }}}Begin Republican pledge greets Queen Stephen Bates Friday February 22, 2002 The Guardian Hours before the Queen's arrival in New Zealand for a golden jubilee official visit, the country's prime minister, Helen Clark, said last night that the Queen's position as head of state was absurd. Ms Clark, Labour head of the country's moderate left coalition government, predicted that New Zealand - once the most loyal of white Commonwealth countries - would inevitably become a republic. The prime minister has chosen to attend a meeting of centre-left government leaders in Stockholm rather than greeting the Queen when she arrives in Wellington this morning, though she is expected to put in an appearance before the royal party leave next Wednesday. In her speech at the London School of Economics, Ms Clark said it would not be long before her country shed its recognition of the Queen as head of state. The idea of a nation such as New Zealand being ruled by a head of state some 20,000km away is absurd. It is inevitable that New Zealand will become a republic. It is just a matter of when the New Zealand people are bothe red enough to talk about it - it could be 10 years, or it could be 20 years, but it will happen, she said. The country's biggest daily newspaper, the New Zealand Herald, has also taken a cool view of the royal visit. Describing the Queen as a constitutional Santa Claus from another age, Brian Rudman, its political columnist, added: We all know she doesn't really exist any more, but we can't quite bring ourselves to tell her or to admit it. After leaving Britain on Monday the Queen has been in Jamaica, where a majority of the population, according to polls, also want their country to become a republic. Next week she flies on to Australia, which only narrowly voted against becoming a republic a couple of years ago. The tour is the main overseas visit of the Queen's 50th anniversary year. It contrasts sharply with the welcomes she received during her first visits to the old colonies in the 1950s. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002 End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] This just about says it all ...
-Caveat Lector- ... about organised faith From http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12459 }}}Begin The Electric Christian Rapture Test Kate Silver, Las Vegas Weekly http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/ February 21, 2002 They say all it takes is a little bit of faith, some cash and a signature, and if everything goes as planned, subscribing Christians (and maybe a few trusting infidels) will be free of the evil power companies -- and their power bills -- for life. Call it the Electric Christian Rapture Test. I sold all my stock last year because I would rather put it into this company than the stock market, says Conrad Sorensen, who owns a dealership in Henderson, Nevada called Grassroot Enterprises of Tesla, Inc. I feel my money's going to be safer here than any stock market. End{{{ Rest of the story @ site ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Momentum builds for greater US support for Colombian military in the fight against rebels
-Caveat Lector- from - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020222/ap_to_po/us_colombia_ 22 Momentum builds for greater US support for Colombian military in the fight against rebels Thu Feb 21, 9:37 PM ET By KEN GUGGENHEIM, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - The United States has provided Colombia's military with machine guns, combat helicopters and hundreds of military and civilian advisers in the fight against rebels. So far, it all has been in the name of battling drugs, not guerrillas. But with the breakdown of Colombia's peace process, momentum is building for greater U.S. involvement. The United States is exploring steps it can take to provide more help to Colombia while staying within limits set by Congress, generally restricting aid to counternarcotics, a U.S. official said Thursday. One option under consideration is enhanced intelligence sharing and a speedup in the delivery of spare parts for U.S. helicopters used by the Colombian military, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Bush administration also may permit increased U.S.-Colombian aerial spraying of narcotics fields - something the Colombians have been seeking. Colombia's President Andres Pastrana on Wednesday ended his government's peace process with the country's largest rebel group, known by its Spanish initials FARC. At the same time, Colombia began bombing a safe haven ceded to the FARC in 1998. Pastrana acted after the FARC hijacked a plane and kidnapped a senator on board. White House spokesman Sean McCormack, in Beijing with President Bush said: We understand President Pastrana's decisions yesterday to break of peace talks with the FARC ... and begin military operations. He said the United States has supported the peace process, but regrettably, the goodwill of the Pastrana government and the Colombian people have not been reciprocated by the FARC. Outlining a series of what he called terrorist attacks by the FARC, McCormack said the United States is consulting with the government about how it can help. Asked if U.S. military action is possible, McCormack said, We are mindful of the legal constraints on our assistance, which we will respect. Bush's budget proposal for next year includes military aid unrelated to drugs: $98 million to help Colombia train and arm soldiers to protect a vital oil pipeline from rebel attacks. An additional $731 million was proposed in anti-drug aid for the Andean region. Still, no one is suggesting sending U.S. troops into battle. Steve Lucas, spokesman for U.S. Southern Command, said Thursday that U.S. military personnel in Colombia are generally in secure areas - as secure as things get in Colombia - and we constantly address the potential threat to U.S. personnel and move them accordingly. The U.S. military has a strong presence in Colombia. The Defense Department has about 250 U.S. military personnel, 50 civilian employees and 100 civilian contractors in Colombia, Lucas said. In addition, State Department employees and contractors fly and maintain planes and helicopters used for drug crop eradication. Colombia has been a major recipient of U.S. military aid. A $1.3 billion aid package approved in 2000 provided Colombia with 14 Black Hawks and 33 UH-1N Huey helicopters plus training for a 3,000-soldier counternarcotics brigade. Colombia was the main beneficiary of a $625 million anti-drug package for the Andean region for this year. The military aid, though, has been limited largely to fighting drugs. Congress placed the restriction to prevent the United States from getting drawn into the 38-year-old civil war and because of concerns about the Colombian military's human rights record. But the distinction between fighting drugs and fighting guerrillas is murky. The guerrillas partly finance their insurgency by protecting drug crops and laboratories. Some Republican lawmakers have argued that it is impossible to distinguish between guerrillas involved in trafficking and those who are not. The distinction became less important after the Sept. 11 attacks, when U.S. officials started to see the Colombian conflict not only in terms of drugs, but also terrorism. The FARC, another rebel army and the main right-wing paramilitary group all are considered terrorist organizations by the State Department. The Bush administration took a tougher line on the FARC. In October, the State Department's top counterterrorism official, Francis X. Taylor warned the United States would fight terrorism in the hemisphere using all the elements of our national power. The U.S. Embassy in Bogota said the United States would help train and equip Colombian anti-kidnapping squads. Bush's $98 million proposal to help Colombia train and arm soldiers to protect a vital oil pipeline from rebel attacks has raised questions. Secretary of State Colin Powell told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that despite the pipeline proposal, our principal focus with the Andean
[CTRL] Customs Service Screening More Mail
-Caveat Lector- from - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020222/ap_on_re_us/attacks_f oreign_mail_1 Customs Service Screening More Mail Fri Feb 22, 2:41 AM ET By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The Customs Service has increased the amount of incoming mail it opens for screening in the aftermath of September's terrorist attacks and the anthrax mailings. Foreign mail entering the United States must be cleared by Customs before it goes to the U.S. Postal Service for delivery. Since Sept. 11, Customs has conducted enhanced operations at all ports of entry, including mail arrival points, agency spokesman Dean Boyd said. That means more inspections of incoming people, goods and cargo, as well as mail, he said. The increase certainly does raise privacy questions, said Barry Steinhardt, associate director of the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites). I have heard, anecdotally, there is considerably greater opening of foreign mail, Steinhardt said. It's a further sign that this has been a period when our liberty is being compromised and for no apparent benefit. Once first-class mail is in the U.S. Postal Service system, it is inviolable and cannot be opened without a court order, Postal Inspector Dan Mihalko said. The law specifically gives Customs agents border search authority to investigate incoming items that it feels may be suspicious. The Supreme Court has held it's permissible for Customs to open incoming mail if it has reasonable cause to suspect that it contains incriminating information or items, said Christopher Slobogin, a University of Florida law professor. But my guess is that the inspections of mail taking place now are not based on reasonable cause but rather are random or perhaps are based on something as minimal as the return address on the envelope. Slobogin said it's understandable that the government would want to look closer at anything entering the country after the attacks. But one hopes that the government exhibits some balance between the desire to enhance security and the personal privacy of those using the mail, he said. That a letter crosses an international border doesn't mean that its contents become less private. Boyd, the Customs spokesman, said that items are not opened willy-nilly but only on reasonable suspicion that an envelope contains something more than merely a letter, he said. We look for anomalies in deciding what may be suspicious, he said. In recent years, agents have noted a sharp increase in mailings of the drug ecstasy from Europe, leading to more attention to that area. Boyd was reluctant to specify whether any particular part of the world was getting extra attention, noting that contraband can be mailed to the United States via third countries to allay suspicion. He said that if inspectors open mail, they reseal it with tape bearing a Customs mark. Mail also can be inspected with X-rays or checked by dogs. Boyd could not provide a percentage increase for the amount of mail being opened. Besides the terrorist attacks, wariness about mail has been fueled by anthrax-laced mail found last fall in Florida, New York and Washington. Five people died from anthrax spores, and several others were sickened. While that attack apparently originated inside the United States, it has sharply increased attention on the security of all mail. Mail addressed to federal agencies is now being irradiated to kill any biological threat. The Postal Service is buying additional radiation equipment and evaluating other technology to screen the mail. Stamp collectors have reported that some shipments in registered mail from foreign countries appeared to have been opened, then resealed, according to the collectors' newspaper, Linn's Stamp News. Linn's quoted Joe Rivera, chief Customs inspector at New York's Kennedy Airport, as saying that since the terrorist attacks, the percentage of mail being opened from Europe, the Middle East and Asia has jumped sharply. Rick Miller, a reporter for Linn's, said he received one of the opened items, which had been resealed with wide packaging tape. Miller wasn't angry. If they're looking for anthrax, he said, I'd rather them find it than me. ___ On the Net: U.S. Customs Service: http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/ U.S. Postal Service: http://www.usps.gov Linn's Stamp News: http://www.linns.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives
[CTRL] South Carolina Secretly Creates Children's DNA Database
-Caveat Lector- http://www.goupstate.com/docs/Opinion/Editorials/5878.asphttp://www.goupstate.com/docs/Opinion/Editorials/5878.asp --- Published: February 21, 2002 State of mistrust South Carolina agencies continue to violate citizens' privacy. This time the state is distributing our children's DNA. Lawmakers need to institute firmer rules on the collection and distribution of individuals' personal information. _ Once again South Carolina's state government has proven that it can't be trusted with the personal information it demands from its citizens. South Carolinians had hoped it was a fluke when the state sold the information on 3.5 million people's driver's licenses to a New Hampshire company without their permission or even notification. Citizens thought that the outrage from that incident surely would make state officials more responsible about how they handle the personal information citizens are forced to give the state. But last week South Carolinians learned that -- without their knowledge or permission -- the state had created a DNA library on our children. By law, babies are tested for specific genetic diseases after they are born. The state Department of Health and Environmental Control has been saving all of those samples since 1995 in a special deep freeze facility. State officials told us not to worry. These genetic blueprints of our children are safe with them. This information could not be misused. This week we learned that the information has already been misused. Without the permission of these DNA donors or their parents, the state has given some of the samples to a genetics laboratory and gave others to the State Law Enforcement Division to help start a DNA databank there. Are there any parents left who still trust the state with this information? It's not likely. Do South Carolinians want a genetics lab experimenting on their children's DNA? Did state officials ever think to ask? And what right does SLED have to include our innocent children's DNA in its databank? Legislative remedies for this problem have been discussed in Columbia. They range from the immediate destruction of the DNA samples held by DHEC to a system in which parents can instruct the state not to keep their children's samples. Clearly, the state must institute a process that -- at a bare minimum -- requires DHEC to get parental permission to keep the samples. [...] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Netanyahu Says Arafat Must Go
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Netanyahu Says Arafat Must Go -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/19/02 8:00:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Netanyahu, 52, has been speaking throughout the United States and Israel, and has criticized Sharon for stopping short of what Netanyahu believes is the only way to end terror attacks against Israelis â the removal of Arafat. Wasn't that over his having stolen a lot of official gifts? The guy is a sleaze. Prudy Hew really is a sleaze Prudy. You finally got one right. He's just like Clinton. Keep up the good work. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Buffer Zone?
-Caveat Lector- At last we see the hand of an architect and or developer on this one for to build and wall and a trench would put Israel under siege? OSaba February 22, 2002 DIPLOMACY U.S. Is Talking Up Plan From Saudis on Mideast By TODD S. PURDUM Join a Moderated Discussion on the Middle East (Saba Note: Here would be a good list for Kris.wouldn't he have fun??? - Sensible Discussion Jews vs Muslims discussion on Middle East) WASHINGTON, Feb. 21 Having failed to press Yasir Arafat into stopping the worst violence in the Middle East in 16 months of guerrilla war, the Bush administration sees a sliver of light in a peace plan sketched by the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, senior administration officials said today. United States officials said that President Bush, under prodding from European allies to restart peace efforts, would discuss the latest ideas of Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud, the de facto Saudi ruler, with President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt when he comes to Washington at the end of next week. The officials said they were particularly intrigued by Crown Prince Abdullah's explicit offer of full normalization of relations with Israel in exchange for its withdrawal from the territories claimed after the 1967 war. Also encouraging, they said, is the fact that other Arab states, including Egypt, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, have reacted favorably to the Saudi overture. In a sign of how seriously the Bush administration takes the Saudi suggestion, William J. Burns, the assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, is to discuss it here on Friday with Adel A. al-Jubeir, a confidant of the crown prince and effectively the Saudi national security adviser, the officials said. But the officials also acknowledged that they were at a loss for other new ideas, and repeated that it was still up to Mr. Arafat to crack down on Palestinian attacks. The State Department's director of policy planning, Richard N. Haass, is in the region reviewing policy options, and met with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel today, though he had no plans to see Mr. Arafat and is not conducting peace talks, officials said. Thomas L. Friedman, a columnist for The New York Times, reported last Sunday that Crown Prince Abdullah had said in an interview that his country would be prepared to establish full diplomatic relations, normalize trade and guarantee Israel's security if the Israelis agreed to withdraw fully from the territories occupied at the end of the June 1967 war. The crown prince's proposal is similar to one put forward in 1981 by King Fahd, when he was crown prince, though at that time the Saudis did not explicitly pledge to recognize Israel. Crown Prince Abdullah has been Saudi Arabia's de facto leader since King Fahd, his brother, suffered a stroke in the mid-1990's. In an Op-Ed essay published in The Times today, Henry Siegman, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said senior Saudi officials had assured him that the crown prince was willing to show even more flexibility on two issues of longstanding concern to Israel, the status of Jerusalem, including Israeli sovereignty over the Western Wall, and the occupied West Bank. American and Saudi officials said that Mr. Siegman's account accurately reflected the crown prince's views, though they added that details of any final settlement would be up to the Palestinians. Still, one American official said: The Western Wall reference is pretty dramatic. We went from 0 to 60, and not only was it done by an Arab state, it was done by the most conservative of Arab states and by the one guy from whom, when it is said, there is no possibility of taking it back. The State Department spokesman, Richard A. Boucher, said: These are significant positive steps and have been endorsed publicly by other governments in the region, including Egypt. They highlight the importance of not giving up on the goal of a just and lasting peace, and the need to do all we can to help end the Israel- Palestinian conflict. But some other experts on the region expressed less optimism. Though intriguing and significant, a Saudi statement promising `full normalization´ in exchange for the demands laid out by Abdullah is almost surely not relevant in today´s geopolitical context, Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, writes in a paper issued by the institute. Regrettably, it is at least 19 months too late, and probably six to seven years past the time when it could have made a difference in the peace diplomacy. Nonetheless, Mr. Satloff said he hoped that the crown prince would actually deliver his remarks, which he told Mr. Friedman were contained in a draft of a speech for an Arab summit meeting next month. The proposal, Mr. Satloff added, would be sure to spark even further inter-Arab debate over whether and how to make peace with Israel. Speaking to reporters at the State
[CTRL] (Fwd) STATE ORIGIN Publisher Online Tonight 6PM PST (Februar
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Subject:STATE ORIGIN Publisher Online Tonight 6PM PST (February 21, 2002) From: Zygote Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:46:21 -0500 To: Molly Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] STATE ORIGIN PUBLISHER ONLINE TONIGHT 6PM PST (San Diego, CA) Independent publisher Joel Bales discusses the new book by international human rights activist Dr. Boyd E. Graves, STATE ORIGIN: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS Thursday February 21, 2002 from 6 to 9 PM PST, USA with hosts Laura and Rama Demetrius Dyushambee, D.D. Dr. Graves is considered the discoverer and lead investigator of the 1971 US Special 'AIDS' Virus Flow Chart. Dr. Graves' AIDS Flow Chart discovery is featured on page 51 of his first book, STATE ORIGIN. Bales will discuss Dr. Graves' upcoming book World War AIDS, the current US General Accounting Office investigation into the US Special Virus program, and the unique challenges of reproducing 15 years of 'missing medical history' for doctors, researchers, and the US Congress. Online tonight beginning 6PM PST / 8PM CST USA. Listen at http://www.wonderhorse.com/talkradio/alternacast/ or use the following link: http://www.wonderhorse.com/talkradio/alternacast/showguide/sg_tjbio.asp?jockeyid=1235 *Note: Some email programs may break the links above into two lines. In this case, you might have to cut and paste the complete link. --- We are greater than any federal virus program. We are the human race. Dr. Boyd E. Graves US Supreme Court Case No. 00-9587 T - 800-257-9387 O - 785-263-1871 F - 785-263-1568 E - [EMAIL PROTECTED] W - http://www.boydgraves.com N.O.A.H. c/o Zygote Media PO Box 332 Abilene, KS 67410-0332 RELEASE SCHEDULE 02.21.02 @ 4:00 PM CST *** To be removed from this message category click on the following link: http://199.72.15.51/r.asp?i=1822172-0-461-0-mol-6 a href=http://199.72.15.51/r.asp?i=1822172-0-461-0-mol-6; AOL Users - Click here to be removed/a --- End of forwarded message --- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Global Warming: Socialisms Trojan Horse
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Global Warming: Socialisms Trojan Horse by Eric Englund On February 14, 2002, President Bush provided details for his plan to combat global warming. The cornerstone of his plan is to promote voluntary reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. Naturally, environmentalists were outraged that President Bush refused to adhere to the Kyoto Treaty. It is President Bushs contention that the Kyoto protocol would cost nearly 5,000,000 jobs in the U.S. alone. Of course, environmentalists claimed that there is a bigger picture here. All people, especially those living in industrialized countries such as the U.S., must sacrifice in order to win the universal struggle against global warming. As we have seen over the past three decades, environmentalists have succeeded in eroding property rights in the United States in order to protect Mother Earth as they see fit (i.e. through the Clean Water Act, through the Endangered Species Act, through ridiculous wetlands legislation, through air quality laws, etc). Whether or not President Bush understands this, the real struggle is between liberty and totalitarianism. For if environmentalists succeed in gradually taking away our private property rights, then a free market and liberty cannot exist. Thus, it is my contention that the struggle against environmentalism is actually a struggle for liberty (using the classical liberal definition). Undoubtedly, environmentalists will take exception to being called illiberal socialists (but I repeat myself). Perhaps there are those of you who are alarmed about global warming and sympathize with the environmental/green movement. My response is for you to be careful with whom you associate; which leads me to provide the following quote from Dr. George Reismans magnum opus Capitalism: ... it should not be surprising to see hordes of former Reds, or of those who otherwise would have become Reds, turning from Marxism and becoming the Greens of the ecology movement. It is the same fundamental philosophy in a different guise, ready as ever to wage war on the freedom and well-being of the individual. So who are these former Reds who have converted to Green Socialism? One excellent example is Mikhail Gorbachev. Mr. Gorbachev is now the president of Green Cross International (a non-governmental environmental organization). Among the many issues with which Green Cross International has become involved, global warming is right at the top of its list. Gosh, when Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher became so chummy in the mid-1980s, I never once heard the Soviet dictator express concern about the environment. Clearly, Mr. Gorbachev has identified environmentalism as a Trojan horse capable of resurrecting socialism on a global scale. How can I say that about Mikhail Gorbachev? Didnt he bring glasnost (freedom of speech) and perestroika (economic and political reforms) to the Soviet Union? Indeed he did. Yet, these were means to his end of trying to save Soviet Communism and, therefore, to save his absolute and unspeakable power (that brought human misery to millions). Perhaps I am being too harsh on Mr. Gorbachev? To this I simply respond, read Requiem for Marx (edited by Yuri N. Maltsev). Dr. Maltsev was a reformist member of the Institute of Economics of the Soviet Academy of Sciences until he defected in 1989 (he now is an Associate Professor of economics at Carthage College and is a senior fellow of the Ludwig von Mises Institute). In writing the introduction to this excellent book, Dr. Maltsev states: Gorbachev never learned economics in school. In all my dealings with him I had never seen even a slight flash of economic insight, or even the desire to learn more about economics. He preferred to think like a communist: everything can be done by issuing orders and demanding obedience, no matter how perverse, contrary to human nature, and brutal they may be. This certainly isnt the image painted by the United States adoring press corps. Gorbachev seems to be so nice. To this I respond with another excerpt (regarding the nice Mr. Gorbachev) from Yuri Maltsevs introduction in Requiem for Marx: What he did in the Baltic States authorizing the Soviet military to crack the skulls of innocent people in the Baltics qualified him to be included among historys litany of murderous rulers, but he was never included. Even while he was heralded in the West as a great reformer, he was also running labor camps, committing human rights violations, and sending people to prison for speech crimes. As the Soviet Union came to an end, the public had been reduced to a collective of hunter gatherers, barely living at a subsistence level. Maybe the former Soviet dictator has changed. Perhaps Mikhail Gorbachev really does care about the environment and has no interest in resurrecting socialism. To this, I simply refer one
[CTRL] The profits of doom
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] The profits of doom Matt Ridley celebrates Bjorn Lomborg, the environmentalist brave enough to tell the truth that the end is not nigh At the Christmas cabaret in the politics department of Aarhus University in Denmark last year, the cast members joined together at the end to sing a song about one of the associate professors. Bjorn, when will you come back? went the refrain. Dont just get lost out in the world. (It was better in Danish.) Bjorn Lomborg young, blond, piano-playing, but basically a statistics nerd may not be back soon. He has just succeeded Monsanto as the official chief villain of the world environmental movement. In January Scientific American devoted 11 pages to an unattractive attempt to attack his work. He had a pie thrown in his face when he spoke in Oxford last September. The great and the good of greendom are competing to find epithets for him: Wilful ignorance, selective quotations, destructive campaigning, says E.O. Wilson, guru of biodiversity. Lacks even a preliminary understanding of the science in question, says Norman Myers, guru of extinction. His book is nothing more than a diatribe, says Lester Brown, serial predictor of imminent global famine. Stephen Schneider, high priest of global warming, even berates Cambridge University Press for publishing it. What can this mild statistician have said to annoy these great men so? In 1996 he published an obscure but brilliant article on game theory, which earned him an invitation to a conference on computable economics in Los Angeles (and an offer of a job at the University of California). While browsing in a bookshop there he came across a profile in Wired magazine of the late Julian Simon, an economist, who claimed, with graphs, that on most measures the environment was improving, not getting worse. Irritated, Lomborg went back to Denmark and set his students the exercise of finding the flaw in Simons statistics. They could find none. So Lomborg wrote The Skeptical Environmentalist, which not only endorses most of Simons claims, but also goes further, providing an immense compendium of factual evidence that the litany of environmental gloom we hear is mostly either exaggerated (species extinction, global warming) or wrong (population, air and water pollution, natural resources, food and hunger, health and life-expectancy, waste, forest loss). You might think that environmentalists would welcome such news. Having argued that we should find a way to live sustainably on the planet, they ought to be pleased that population growth is falling faster (in percentage and absolute terms) than anybody predicted even ten years ago; that per-capita food production is rising rapidly, even in the developing world; that all measures of air pollution are falling almost everywhere; that oil, gas and minerals are not running out nearly as fast as was predicted in the 1970s; and so on. Instead they are beside themselves with fury. It cannot be Lomborgs politics that annoy them. He is leftish, concerned about world poverty, and no fan of big business. It cannot be his recommendations: in favour of renewable energy and worried about the pollution that is getting worse. Vegetarian, he rides a bicycle and approves of Denmarks punitive car taxes. His sin his heresy is to be optimistic. This is very threatening to lots of peoples livelihoods. The environmental movement raises most of its funds through direct mail, paid advertising and news coverage. A steady supply of peril is essential fuel for all three. H.L. Mencken said, The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hence clamorous to be led to safety by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. For instance, remember acid rain in the 1980s and sperm counts in the 1990s? There is no evidence of a general or unusual decline of forests in the United States or Canada due to acid rain, concluded the official independent study of the subject. Sperm counts are not falling. If you do not believe me, look up the statistics. Lomborg did. The media, too, prefer pessimism. When the United Nations panel on global warming produced new estimates of the rise in temperature by 2100, they gave a range of 1.4 to 5.8°C. CNN, CBS, Time and the New York Times all quoted only the high figure and omitted the low one. An increasing number of scientists have vested interests in pessimism, too. The study of global warming has brought them fame, funds, speaking fees and room service. Lomborgs crime is to rain on their parade. In the Scientific American critique, four leading environmental scientists lambasted Lomborg. The magazine refused Lomborg the right to reply in the same issue, refused to post his response on its website immediately, and threatened him for infringement of copyright when he tried to reproduce their articles, with his
Re: [CTRL] The Founding Fathers Were Not Christians
-Caveat Lector- InfoWarz It's funny how the real revisionists, such as Steven Morris, Ph.D., love to use the dubious term, Deist when snip MJ It is far MORE humorous that apologists stick their thumbs in their ear and their toungues out while wiggling their fingers at those who present EVIDENCE contrary to their indoctrinated beliefs ... rather than attempting to counter those materials presented. It would certainly be far more compelling if you proclaimed: This author was incorrect when he claimed A because of D, E and F. OR Insert Founder, a man who was involved with a, b and c ... and did not simply hold a chair down on the floor ... contributed X to the Constitution as he expounded upon Book, Chapter and Verse of the Christian Bible for its relevance/necessity. His actual words can be found in his letter to X or his document Y or the Debates of the Convention or Several States Z. Oh well. Ever hear of or consider the Enlightenment? Regard$, --MJ Without the pen of Paine, the sword of Washington would have been wielded in vain. -- John Adams It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible. -- Thomas Paine The creation is the Bible of the Deist. He there reads, in the handwriting of the Creator himself, the certainty of His existence and the immutability of His power, and all other Bibles and Testaments are to him forgeries. -- Thomas Paine A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Did Six Million Really Die?
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THERE IS NO NATIONAL MONUMENT TO WWII VETERANS. What about the statue recreating the planting of the flag on Iwo Jima? June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Re: GLOBAL WARMING OR GLOBALONEY? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:39:34 -0500 From: M.A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ctrl] Re: GLOBAL WARMING OR GLOBALONEY? The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H.L. Mencken Steve Are most scientists conspiring with the politicians to fool us about global warming? MJ Huh? Three of the world's most respected climatologists (Thomas Karl, Kirby Hanson, and George Maul of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration) recently reviewed the best climate data available anywhere in the world -- that for the contiguous United States. They concluded: There is no statistically significant evidence of an ... increase in annual temperature or change in annual precipitation for the contiguous U.S. 1895-1987. The researchers continued If there is a greenhouse effect, you can't find it in the U.S. records. Temperature data from other parts of the world are incomplete and fragmentary, but the law of large numbers suggests a sample as large as the continental U.S. may accurately reflect global temperature trends. Also contradicting the global-warming theory is the fact that most of the twentieth-century's warming occurred by 1938, well before the steep rise in carbon-dioxide concentration. From 1938 to 1970 temperatures plunged so sharply that a new ice age was being widely forecast, even by Steven Schneider, father -- or at least chief guru -- of global warming. Perhaps most significant are studies that document a relative rise in nocturnal temperatures in the United States over the past sixty years, even while daytime temperatures remained constant or declined. The consequences of this, environmental scientist Patrick Michaels of the University of Virginia has pointed out, are actually beneficial: a longer growing season, fewer frosts, and no increase in soil evaporation. Perhaps you confuse MODELS with the ACTUAL DATA. Regard$, --MJ If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day 1970. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == ctrl is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, ctrl gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. ctrl gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. There are two list running, ctrl@yahoogroups and [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctrl@yahoogroups has unlimited posting and is more for discussion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is more for informational exchange and has limited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL
[CTRL] DEA Chief Discusses Colombian Action
-Caveat Lector- from - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020222/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mex ico_us_drugs_3 DEA Chief Discusses Colombian Action Fri Feb 22, 6:37 AM ET By JOHN RICE, Associated Press Writer MEXICO CITY (AP) - Drug Enforcement Agency chief Asa Hutchinson said Colombia's crackdown on rebels will aid in the war against illegal drugs. Colombian President Andres Pastrana on Thursday ordered a military attack on a vast rebel territory, ending a three-year peace process hours after guerrillas allegedly hijacked a domestic airliner and kidnapped a senator onboard. I see it clearly as a benefit in that region, Hutchinson said Thursday, adding that anti-drug efforts would have to be a focus of the military campaign. Pastrana gave the Switzerland-sized zone to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, in 1998 to encourage peace negotiations. Hutchinson welcomed Pastrana's reference to rebel links to drug trafficking, saying it was clear recognition of long-standing U.S. allegations. If the military and police enter the (rebel) zone, you're going to find cocaine diversion labs there, (drug) labs, he said Thursday. You're going to have intelligence on trafficking operations, he said. Making his first trip to Mexico since taking over the DEA in August, Hutchinson praised the administration of President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) and Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha. He singled out efforts to root out corruption and improve training of anti-narcotics agents. Yet despite a series of major seizures over the past year, Hutchinson conceded there was no sign that the supply, price or quality of illegal drugs reaching the United States had been affected. Mexico's legal system also has frustrated one U.S. goal: extraditing alleged drug bosses for trial in the United States. Mexico shipped 17 suspects to the United States over the past year, but its Supreme Court last year barred extradition of some of the most-wanted suspects because they could face the death penalty or a life sentence. Mexico and many other countries believe those punishments violate human rights. Hutchinson said the Mexican government may have to look at a legislative solution making such extraditions legal. Hutchinson said U.S. officials also are studying ways to restrict the flow of opium and heroin out of Afghanistan (news - web sites), historically a major producer. Reporters there have seen vast fields of opium poppies after the fall of the restrictive Taliban government during the U.S.-led war on terrorism. That war followed the Sept. 11 terror attacks in the United States. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The United States Marine Memorial (Iwo Jima)
This memorial was dedicated to the US Marines - so many died there on foreign soil. OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://iwo-jima-memorial.visit-washington-dc.com/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: All The Boys At Iwo Jima
This is nice story but you see too this beautiful memorial seemed to symbolize only the men raising the flag - for the name of each was known.This story is a good one, but marred for some reason. Shows part close up of the plaque. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.homestead.com/deewebs/iwojima.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Pakistan vows to catch Pearls killers
The Pakistan police unknown to the FBI and CIA had this one man who used name Rubaiya at one time, from February 5 to February 12. This explains the fact that this guy stressed a couple of times he had turned himself in on February 5. This Special Service Police element - this gave them time to maybe kill Danny Pearl for he knew who led him to this trap. No way he could ever have been returned, alive. For the police were involved in this - as they say in Hebrews where there is a testament, there must by necessity be the death of the testators. We don't know the real names of any of these peoples; but we know for sure they are not freedom fighters but vicious killers - maybe Danny Pearl WAS getting too close to a truth and had to be silenced - the lamb to slaughter. Only a cop could have led him to his death - caught in the trap. Psalms, psalm 44 22: Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter. Paki Pakistan vows to catch Pearl's killers Video shows Wall Street Journal reporter being killed by kidnappersA video provided to Pakistani authorities offers graphic evidence of the death of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. NBC's Dawna Friesen reports from Karachi. NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES Feb. 22 - Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf pledged Friday to apprehend each and every one of the gang of terrorists involved in the kidnap and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. U.S. officials have confirmed to NBC News that a video shows Pearl, who was seized in southern Pakistan a month ago, being killed by his Islamic extremist captors. In Beijing, President Bush called Pearl's murder a criminal, barbaric act and said the killing would only deepen the resolve of the United States of America. Feb. 22 - NBC News analyst Steve Emerson discusses the possible reactions of the United States to the killing of journalist Daniel Pearl. THE STATE DEPARTMENT confirmed Pearl's death, saying the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan received evidence of the murder on Thursday. Sources close to the investigation who had seen the tape said it showed Pearl dead, his throat cut. The announcements crushed the hopes of Pearl's colleagues and his pregnant wife, who had pleaded for the reporter's safe return ever since he was abducted in the Pakistani port city of Karachi on Jan. 23. The Journal said its staff was heartbroken, and Pearl's parents and two sisters said they were shocked and saddened by the news. Up until a few hours ago, we were confident that Danny would return safely, for we believe that no human being could be capable of harming such a gentle soul, his family said in a statement from their home in the Encino section of Los Angeles. Pearl's wife, Mariane, was told of his death in Karachi, where she had been staying while awaiting word on her husband's fate, said Steve Goldstein, a vice president of Dow Jones Co., the owner of the Journal. Advertisement In the weeks since her husband's capture, Mariane Pearl, a freelance journalist, had pleaded for his freedom and offered herself in his place. She is now seven months pregnant with the couple's first child. Newsweek: Remembering Daniel Pearl In Beijing, a grim-faced President Bush said, All Americans are sad and angry to learn of the murder. Those who would threaten Americans, those who would engage in criminal, barbaric acts need to know that these crimes only hurt their cause and only deepen the resolve of the United States of America to rid the world of these agents of terror, Bush said. May God bless Daniel Pearl, he said. MUSHARRAF ORDERS CRACKDOWN Bush spoke with Musharraf early Friday as the U.S. president returned home from a five-day trip to Asia, Secretary of State Colin Powell said. President Musharraf took it pretty badly because he was doing everything to stop the kidnappers from killing Pearl, Powell said aboard Air Force One. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS THE WAR * Missing reporter dead, U.S. officials confirm * 10 U.S. soldiers feared dead in Philippines * U.S. tries to avert new Afghan fighting * Complete coverage THE HOME FRONT * Last WTC burn victim goes home * Florida anthrax survivor back at work * Complete coverage Musharraf moved swiftly after hearing of Pearl's death, offering condolences and ordering an immediate roundup of all suspects possibly linked to the kidnapping and murder. Musharraf expressed his profound grief over the killing and ordered security forces to apprehend each and every member of the gang of terrorists involved in this gruesome murder. Four people have been arrested and charged in the case, and Pakistani authorities had been maintaining for weeks that they were close to solving it. A statement released by Musharraf's office said the president would stay the course to ensure that his country and indeed this world is free of
Re: [CTRL] Netanyahu Says Arafat Must Go
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/22/02 7:05:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He's just like Clinton. Keep up the good work. I guess he's just like all our presidents then. Nancy Reagan paid taxes on at least a million. Would you go for the idea that Netanyahu and Arafat leave together? Oh well, I thought not. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: No survivors found in chopper crash
The same day, there was a report on MSNBC giving the EXACT location of these heliocopters.at the time I thought why not just get a road map with little red arrows leading to them. So this happens - is it normal procedure to put out precise locations of troops now, where they will be running tests, etc. For they made these men sitting ducks. This heliocopter it was reported exploded in the sky. Have you noted all these reports of downed planes - are they defective or like Vietnam when UFOs would be reported in Georgia and Alabama - and our pilots returning with munitions - the vietkong would infiltrate the bases and gun them down when they landed..remember the old song Stars Fell Over Alabama? Red Stone Arsenal land. Should the news media report stuff like this - it is though they are waiting then for something to happen, and it did. OSaba No s No survivors found in chopper crash 10 U.S. soldiers were helping Philippines battle extremists The U.S. Army helicopter that crashed Friday is similar to this one, seen in a file photo. MSNBC NEWS SERVICES APO ISLAND, Philippines, Feb. 22 Searchers have found no survivors and the 10 U.S. soldiers aboard an Army helicopter that crashed in Philippine waters are feared dead, officials said Friday. Three bodies have been recovered. The troops were participating in anti-terrorism exercises with Philippine peers. U.S.-Philippine relations THE MH-47E Chinook helicopter appeared to be burning when it went down, witnesses said, but U.S. and Philippine officials say it was not hit by rebel fire. We have found no survivors from the mishap aircraft, said Brig. Gen. Donald Wurster, head of the U.S. contingent. We, of course, hope they are alive, and we are doing everything with our Philippine friends to find them. Eight crew and two paramedics were on board the helicopter. Their names were not released pending the search and notification of relatives. Philippine officials had earlier said at least two people were found alive, while a television station said three were plucked out of the sea by fishermen. U.S. authorities in Washington originally said 12 people were on board the helicopter, but a spokeswoman at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Karen Kelley, said later the number was 10. 'EVERYTHING LOOKED NORMAL' The cause of the crash was unknown. Philippine military spokesman Lt. Col. Danilo Servando ruled out hostile fire. Advertisement Col. Alexander Aleo, commander of the Philippine military's 103rd Brigade headquarters on Basilan, said everything looked normal as the choppers dropped off the last of 160 U.S. special forces and supplies that have been arriving over the last two weeks to help the Philippine military. Police said there was light rain and poor visibility at the time, but the chopper is equipped with advanced radar and other navigation gear. There was no indication of anything amiss before this thing happened, Wurster said. Some debris and an oil slick were spotted five nautical miles from tiny Apo island in the Bohol Sea in the southern Philippines. Coast Guard Lt. Armand Balilo said one of the helicopter's rotors had been found. Officials said the turquoise water was believed to be more than 1,400 feet deep. As U.S. Navy SEAL divers searched the site, police combed the shore for debris. FIRE BEFORE CRASH? Fishing boat skippers Ricardo Zamora and Joel Lasola said they were about seven miles away when the helicopter went down. At the time of the incident, they saw a big fire that fell into the sea, and as the fire touched the water, there was an explosion, said a police report based on their account. Rodrigo Alanano, mayor of Dauin town on nearby Negros, said he talked with other fishermen who were about one or two miles from the crash site. They saw a helicopter in flames in the air, then it exploded as it fell into the sea, he said. They thought it was a meteorite. EXERCISES CONTINUE Click for a slideshow on the terror threat in the southern Philippines. Officials said the crash would not affect the joint exercise, which involves about 660 Americans including 160 special forces and targets the Muslim extremist Abu Sayyaf group. The rebels are holding a Kansas missionary couple and Filipino nurse hostage on southern Basilan island. Rigoberto Tiglao, spokesman for President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, said she expressed sympathy to the Americans' families. This just goes to show that this support of the United States is not just any support, Tiglao said. They're risking the lives of their own soldiers, too. Officials said the helicopter had finished three night flights between Zamboanga, home to the Philippine military's Southern Command, and nearby Basilan, an Abu Sayyaf stronghold. U.S. special forces moved into the southern Philippines last month for
[CTRL] EU - Move to ban Net hate speech provokes mixed response
-Caveat Lector- from - http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020222/l22327554_2.html Friday February 22, 12:41 pm Eastern Time Move to ban Net hate speech provokes mixed response By Bernhard Warner, European Internet Correspondent LONDON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Authors of emails and Internet postings that contain racist or xenophobic material could face criminal charges under a proposed European treaty that is dividing the Internet and law enforcement communities. The proposal, drafted by the Council of Europe (an influential legal forum that works to harmonise laws across Europe) would essentially outlaw the publishing of ``hate speech'' on the Internet. Welcomed by law enforcement agencies, it has been slammed by Internet firms as impossible to enforce. Known as the Convention on Cybercrime, the proposal has received input from 43 European countries plus the United States, Japan, Canada and South Africa. It would need individual ratification in each country before becoming law. It has so far been signed, but not yet ratified, by 32 nations. The proposal seeks to create a comprehensive legal framework for Europe's crimefighters in their efforts to identify and prosecute cross-border hate crimes on the Internet, something politicians are eager to address in the wake of the September 11 attacks. We must harmonise the laws first so that countries can co-operate in criminal investigations regarding the Internet, Peter Csonka, principal administrator at the Council of Europe, told Reuters on Friday. He added that many member states have already criminalised certain activities regarded as racist or xenophobic -- such as threatening a group on the grounds of race, colour or religion -- and the treaty would seek to extend these measures to the Internet. FREE SPEECH OR RACIAL HATRED? The proposal has already provoked protest from civil liberties groups who maintain it could criminalise free speech, and from some Internet firms concerned by liability issues. Csonka said that telecoms firms and Internet service providers (ISPs) have contacted the council asking for clarification on whether they would be held liable for hate speech posted or emailed by their customers. ISPs typically operate a policy of ``notification and takedown'' in which they will remove sites containing objectionable material if it's first brought to their attention. Self-policing in this manner, they say, is the best way to tackle hate speech online. It's almost impossible, and this is the consensus in the ISP community, to monitor every single piece of Web space in the Internet community, said Paul Barker, director of corporate affairs at Freeserve, the British ISP owned by France's Wanadoo . Csonka said the liability concerns raised by ISPs and Web site operators have not yet been addressed. Civil liberty groups have also objected to the proposal, fearing it could bring the more rigorous anti-hate speech laws that exist in continental Europe to the more liberal UK and United States. For example, it is unlawful to post or sell Nazi regalia or propaganda on the Internet in France and Germany, but there are few legal curbs in the U.S. and Britain. This proposal could potentially outlaw free speech, said Malcolm Hutty, general director for Campaign Against Censorship on the Internet in Britain, or CACIB. That would be a great infringement of civil rights. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pipeline to Mainline (A Report on the Western Front)
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/21-2-19102-0-10-25.html }}}Begin Heroin finances rebel onslaught IAN BRUCE ALBANIAN separatist rebels have been selling stockpiled Afghan heroin to finance a new spring offensive in Macedonia by buying millions of pounds worth of weapons on the Balkan black market. Officials from the UN's drugs control programme say the militants have bought enough firepower to equip a 2000-man guerrilla force. The purchases include the latest SA-20 shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles, heavy machine-guns, sniper and assault rifles and millions of rounds of ammunition, as well as heavy mortars, grenade-launchers and anti-tank weapons. Intelligence agencies fear the arms have been funnelled to the breakaway Albanian National Army in northern Macedonia, where scores of insurgents, Macedonian police and civilians died in ethnic clashes last summer, as rebels tried to carve out an Albanian-ruled enclave. British troops spearheaded a Nato mission last autumn to disarm the insurgents in the villages north of Skopje, the Macedonian capital, to defuse the crisis before it descended into civil war. The inclusion of anti-aircraft weapons in the drugs-for-arms deals to replace that hardware is thought to be a deliberate move to counter the Macedonian government's purchase of Mi-24 Hind helicopter gunships and Su-25 ground attack aircraft from the Ukraine. Albanians and Kosovars now control most of the heroin trade between central Asia and Europe, according to the UN, ousting the Russian and Turkish mafias who formerly controlled distribution. Three former members of the Kosovo Liberation Army were arrested in Norway last month with 120lb of the substance in their possession, Scandinavia's biggest ever operation and an indication that the Albanian crime networks are spreading their wings. The UN estimates between £30bn and £50bn-worth of heroin from the bumper poppy crops of 1999 and 2000, was stockpiled by Taliban controllers, and Pakistani and Afghan dealers. It is enough to supply every addict in Europe for the next three years. Consignments of this are now being moved from storage depots in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan to be sold in a European market worth at least £12bn a year. Much of it was shifted by mule train out of Afghanistan as America launched its bombing campaign last November. The ruling Taliban cracked down on poppy cultivation in 2000 is a cosmetic bid to have UN sanctions against Afghanistan lifted. The country was then the source of 75% of the world's heroin and 90% of that was sold on the streets of Berlin, Paris and Glasgow. The al Qaeda terrorist network, although dismissing drugs as un- Islamic, levied a tax on the growers and dealers for acting as middleman in moving them via its Chechen allies. -Feb 21st End{{{~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are
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BF>Below are responses to many people, so please be patient... snip> "c." wrote: define pornography.or... tell me, is all representations of a nude animal of our species pornography? if not- what makes a nude representation of our species porn and what is not porn?i like a bit of porn i must say, but i have noticed (in my somewhat extensive research of this subject arf arf) that there is a definate difference (this must be subjective) between a nude that gets me hot and a nude that just makes me in awe of the beauty of the miracle of the human body.i think the statues are of the latter variety. i do not think there is a line between the two- but it is very rare that what i find truly beautiful also excites me in a sexual way. i can point to this, this and this and tell you definately which of these things are porn and which are "art" but i am certain that this is only my beholding eyes...to simply cover up ALL nudity because some of it may be found stimulating by some people is disingenuous as the victorians discovered- all it does is create fetishism and extremism. at least when people have the freedom to express and indulge their own sexual tastes- it is out in the open and more easily monitored... thus allowing more black and white definitions of right and wrong can be identified- i.e. don't mess with kids and don't do anything to anyone that they don't want. beyond that it is personal tate and personal rights. snip> BF>I get the point. I really cannot understand why you would find me more offensive than the Nazis and Stalinists who post on this list. I really find that strange. As far as the stratues that Ashcroft covered, I honestly have not seen them and perhaps they are "art" and not pornography (like David, Renoir, etc.) but I would say that, even if so, it is best not to broadcast them on prime time in the context given. It is subjective, but remember that we are not talking about censorship but a decision that Ashcroft has made with his personal space. I support it, as we are not talking about PBS art programs, where the context is clear. We are talking about a context where I think that female or male nudity is not appropriate. Do you really believe that the Department of Justice is where you want to appreciate the joy of the human body? Ylgghhh... Outright pornography is exactly what I said it was. I stand by what I said. Disagree all you want, but it is the truth. If you do not believe that violent and vulgar exploitation of the human body and denial of women's rights are evil then we have nothing to really discuss. At least be offended by the Nazis and Stalinists who defend Milosevik and Arafat more than by li'l ole me. Please! Bates snip> Andrew Hennessey wrote: -Caveat Lector- tons of patriot stuff on the net about China THE ENEMY - but consider this - it is a developing nation that has just bought into globalism and will neeed power stations, factories and infrastructure - AND has some of the worlds cheapest and most plentiful labour - something uncle multiSam cannot ignore. China is the Friend of UncleDisney - no-one is going to fight with it at least up front. I'm sure that the NWO want to exterminate China - but to do that they must first break it down and destroy its diet and culture and traditions by introducing poisons and toxins. Under what better guise than the international masonic 'hand' of industrial redevelopment. At this time China is more American than america - it has Disney, macDonalds AND fully staffed factory Gulags, maybe at some point soon the americans will catch up on that one. andrew hennessey A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org/A> DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl/A> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om snip> BF>It depends on what you mean by the "New World Order". The American version of it is very naive. It
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But it is not his private space, but a public space, and he is spending our tax money to cover statues that I am sure our tax money bought and are a part of our national heritage. -Original Message-From: Man on the Run [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] General ResponsesBFBelow are responses to many people, so please be patient... snip "c." wrote: define pornography.or... tell me, is all representations of a nude animal of our species pornography? if not- what makes a nude representation of our species porn and what is not porn?i like a bit of porn i must say, but i have noticed (in my somewhat extensive research of this subject arf arf) that there is a definate difference (this must be subjective) between a nude that gets me hot and a nude that just makes me in awe of the beauty of the miracle of the human body.i think the statues are of the latter variety. i do not think there is a line between the two- but it is very rare that what i find truly beautiful also excites me in a sexual way. i can point to this, this and this and tell you definately which of these things are porn and which are "art" but i am certain that this is only my beholding eyes...to simply cover up ALL nudity because some of it may be found stimulating by some people is disingenuous as the victorians discovered- all it does is create fetishism and extremism. at least when people have the freedom to express and indulge their own sexual tastes- it is out in the open and more easily monitored... thus allowing more black and white definitions of right and wrong can be identified- i.e. don't mess with kids and don't do anything to anyone that they don't want. beyond that it is personal tate and personal rights. snip BFI get the point. I really cannot understand why you would find me more offensive than the Nazis and Stalinists who post on this list. I really find that strange. As far as the stratues that Ashcroft covered, I honestly have not seen them and perhaps they are "art" and not pornography (like David, Renoir, etc.) but I would say that, even if so, it is best not to broadcast them on prime time in the context given. It is subjective, but remember that we are not talking about censorship but a decision that Ashcroft has made with his personal space. I support it, as we are not talking about PBS art programs, where the context is clear. We are talking about a context where I think that female or male nudity is not appropriate. Do you really believe that the Department of Justice is where you want to appreciate the joy of the human body? Ylgghhh... Outright pornography is exactly what I said it was. I stand by what I said. Disagree all you want, but it is the truth. If you do not believe that violent and vulgar exploitation of the human body and denial of women's rights are evil then we have nothing to really discuss. At least be offended by the Nazis and Stalinists who defend Milosevik and Arafat more than by li'l ole me. Please! Bates snip Andrew Hennessey wrote: -Caveat Lector- tons of patriot stuff on the net about China THE ENEMY - but consider this - it is a developing nation that has just bought into globalism and will neeed power stations, factories and infrastructure - AND has some of the worlds cheapest and most plentiful labour - something uncle multiSam cannot ignore. China is the Friend of UncleDisney - no-one is going to fight with it at least up front. I'm sure that the NWO want to exterminate China - but to do that they must first break it down and destroy its diet and culture and traditions by introducing poisons and toxins. Under what better guise than the international masonic 'hand' of industrial redevelopment. At this time China is more American than america - it has Disney, macDonalds AND fully staffed factory Gulags, maybe at some point soon the americans will catch up on that one. andrew hennessey A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available
[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] The Coming American Holocaust
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: William Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The Coming American Holocaust http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm These facilities, many in remote areas across our country, are set up to become concentration/detention camps, complete with gas chambers, for resisters and dissidents. Generally speaking, theyâre set up for dissenters who will not go along with the New World Order. If it is known that the gas chamber is waiting, I wonder how many will refuse to go along. In most the desire to survive overcomes all other principles they might hold dear. People say, âIt wonât work.â But it will work if the 300,000 Soviet troops which are ALREADY HERE can get the guns. If this is a global New World Order and Russians are here, who is in their country to kill Russians? The ones doing all of this are operating out of the highest places in the Federal Government. Theyâre cooperating with âspirit guides and mediumsâ and using astrology and numerology. The spirit guides are telling them what to do, and the entire thing is being orchestrated at the highest spiritual levels. I suppose that would be the Council of Nine, those evil gods of antiquity. Who will be doing the actual picking up? Foreign âcopsâ (United Nations Internal Security Forces). Over 30 foreign military bases under the United Nations flag are already set up in the US., all with the approval of special appointees in high Federal positions. These bases are already manned with over ONE MILLION troops from Russia, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Turkey, Great Britain, Nicaragua, and Asian countries. Chinese troops are known to be at the Long Beach Naval Station in California. Thereâs not going to be some future event when the invading troops are going to show up. Theyâre already here! Which begs the question: if this is a global plan, not just for the West or the USA, who is going to bring in resisters in Russia, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Turkey, Great Britain, Nicaragua, the Asian countries? Who are the troops already in China and ready to execute over one billion Chinese, all of whom will be ordered to resist by their government? I'm not saying this plan does not exist. I just want to know who is in charge of China and Russia? They have a very big job to do in a very short time. It will take a long time to gas or inject a billion resisters. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Absentmindedness
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2002/574/in62.htm Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him. Christianity is a faith in which God sends his son to die for you. The above quote is ludicrous besides being rude. Does anyone remember the words to Onward Christian Soldiers? Does anyone remember HOW the corss became so prominent in the Nazarene's followers religion (read up on Constantine and WHEN he chose the cross)(and read some of the headlines at WorldNetDaily). Johnny has been at the self-anointing oils a little too often. AER }}}Begin Al-Ahram Weekly Online 21 - 27 February 2002 Issue No.574 Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Current issue | Previous issue | Site map Absentminded bigotry Anti-Muslim comments allegedly made by US Attorney-General John Ashcroft have caused an uproar in the Arab and Muslim American community, writes Anayat Durrani Major Arab and Muslim groups have strongly criticised the anti-Muslim remarks allegedly made by United States Attorney General John Ashcroft during a 9 November radio interview with conservative Christian syndicated columnist and radio personality Cal Thomas. Ashcroft was quoted as having said: Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him. Christianity is a faith in which God sends his son to die for you. Thomas's short article, Men of Faith in Washington, DC Need Our Prayers, which repeats this quote and praises Ashcroft for his statement, was carried by an online religious Web site, crosswalk.com, in December. Arab-American and Muslim groups have since demanded Ashcroft either clarify his statements or be removed from office. The New York Daily News first reported on the story. When asked about the quote, Thomas, who has remarked that he thought the quote was profound, told the Daily News, I wrote it down accurately and repeated it to make sure I had it right. I've got my integrity and a four-decade career as a journalist and people can decide for themselves. The Muslim Public Affairs Council called Ashcroft's alleged comments a distorted view of Islam and said such a statement was alarming coming from the US attorney general. The group immediately sent a letter to the Department of Justice, which responded saying that the remarks attributed to Ashcroft did not accurately represent his views and that the Department of Justice remains committed to protecting the civil rights and dignity of all Americans. The Muslim Public Affairs Council has called for a meeting between Ashcroft and Muslim leaders to address general distrust in the American Muslim community towards law enforcement and called for providing sensitivity and diversity training about Islam to Department of Justice officials. It is now even more imperative that a dialogue ensues between the attorney general's office and the American Muslim leadership. It is time to move from words to substantive policies in the halls of power that will institutionalise sensitivity toward American Muslims, said the council's political adviser, Mahdi Bray. Other Muslim and Arab groups were also quick to react. James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, wrote a letter to President George W Bush on 8 February, calling Ashcroft's alleged remarks a horrible distortion of Islam which could only serve to incite anti-Muslim hatred. He said Ashcroft's statements had undermined Bush's efforts to promote tolerance and understanding in the aftermath of 11 September, and asked President Bush to remove Ashcroft from office or ask for his resignation if the attorney general did not publicly repudiate the statements. The bigoted comments reportedly made by our nation's chief of law enforcement are outrageous! The fact that he has not denied making them or apologised for them raises serious questions about his ability to enforce our nation's laws in a fair and unbiased manner. The president should act to correct this situation, Zogby said. The American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee also wrote a letter to President Bush condemning Ashcroft's comments, calling them, inflammatory, fanatical and inexcusable, particularly coming from the attorney general of the United States. The American Muslim Political Coordinating Committee sent a letter to Ashcroft, signed by leaders of four major American Muslim groups, calling his remarks offensive to our community due to their inaccuracy and divisiveness. The committee called on Ashcroft to clarify his statements and to take actions in the Department of Justice to sensitise officials regarding Islam and Muslims. Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, said that if it were true that Ashcroft made the remarks, they were inaccurate, offensive and are unbecoming of a law enforcement official who is currently initiating and administering policies that have a disproportionate impact on Muslims. In the days that followed the
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-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Man on the Run [EMAIL PROTECTED] BFI get the point. I really cannot understand why you would find me more offensive than the Nazis and Stalinists who post on this list. I really find that strange. As far as the stratues that Ashcroft covered, I honestly have not seen them and perhaps they are art and not pornography (like David, Renoir, etc.) but I would say that, even if so, it is best not to broadcast them on prime time in the context given. It is subjective, but remember that we are not talking about censorship but a decision that Ashcroft has made with his personal space. But, the thing is, nobody else ever seemed to have a problem with it, even people more prudish than Ashcroft. And the DOJ is not Ashcroft's personal space, even though he might see it that way. I support it, as we are not talking about PBS art programs, where the context is clear. We are talking about a context where I think that female or male nudity is not appropriate. Again, this was never a problem before now, not even for Ed Meese ... and the statue has been there since the 1930s. Do you really believe that the Department of Justice is where you want to appreciate the joy of the human body? Ylgghhh... Outright pornography is exactly what I said it was. I stand by what I said. Disagree all you want, but it is the truth. If you do not believe that violent and vulgar exploitation of the human body and denial of women's rights are evil then we have nothing to really discuss. Give me a break! Violent and vulgar exploitation of the human body? You really need to get a clue, Bates, or at least take a look at the statue for yourself. Do you find Michaelangelo's David to be offensive? Denial of women's rights ... What crap. Don't be an idiot. - jt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Governmental Screed ?
-Caveat Lector- @ http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/02/Beirut200202.html }}}Begin He [Douglas Feith] opposed the Camp David Agreements because they meant that Israel would give up 'Judea and Samaria', as he refers to the West Bank. Our Website's special correspondent on Middle Eastern affairs reports: IT SEEMS that there is a little more to the story [of the Pentagon's new special office for spreading disinformation] than The New York Times saw fit to print. The NYT noted that the new Office of Strategic Influence would be under General Simon P. Worden and that Worden, in turn, will report to one Mr. Douglas J. Feith who, it says, is under Secretary of Defense for policy, and a man with whom Worden has close ties. Feith, it seems has some interesting ties of his own, as reported in Arabic by the Beirut newspaper as-Safir yesterday, February 20, 2002. Writing up the New York Times story for his Arabic readers the Beirut paper's veteran Washington correspondent, Hisham Milhem, supplemented it with the following information: What the New York Times didn't say about the background of Douglas Feith, the person politically in charge of implementing the plan, is that he is among the most intense partisans of Israel in the administration of President Bush (right). He opposed the Camp David Agreements because they meant that Israel would give up 'Judea and Samaria' as he refers to the West Bank. He claims that the Palestinians do not constitute a people in the recognized sense of the word, and that Jordan should be their homeland. Feith rejects what he considers the 'claims' of the Arabs that the core of the Arab-Israeli conflict is the Palestinians who have no homeland. He claims, rather, that inasmuch as the Arabs reject Zionism that an Israeli withdrawal from the occupied territories will not solve the conflict. In the eighties and nineties Feith expressed criticism of any American policies that could be interpreted as pressure on Israel. One example of this was his criticism of President Bush, senior, when he withheld guarantees for loans to Israel, and because his administration put pressure on the government of Itzhak Shamir to participate in the Madrid Conference. Feith advised Washington to demand that the Arabs 'abandon the principle of land for peace' claiming that this principle will lead to the breakup of Israel in stages. Feith also demanded that the West Bank and Gaza no longer be described as representing 20 percent of Palestine as delineated under the British Mandate, because, he claimed, it is Jordan that represents 80 percent of 'Palestine' in accordance with the British Mandate. Feith rejected the Oslo, Hebron, and Wye Plantation Agreements. He described Oslo as an agreement that would lead to unilateral Israeli concessions and inflate Palestinian expectations. Notably, he objected to the Hebron and Wye River Agreements, despite the fact that these agreements were signed by Benjamin Netanyahu whom Feith supports and to whom he has given political counsel. Feith, together with Richard Perle, a former Defense Department official, are among the most prominent supporters of Israel in Washington. (He works currently as an adviser to the Defense Department, though he is not considered an employee of it). Feith and Perle prepared a political plan for the new Israeli Prime Minister in 1996, Benjamin Netanyahu. Feith formerly worked with Perle in the Defense Department. Among proposals tabled by Feith and Perle were 'total withdrawal from the peace process,' and a reemphasis of Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank and Gaza through a rejection of the principle of 'land for peace.' Feith is considered one of the most prominent supporters of an attack on Iraq and the overthrow of the regime of Saddam Hussein. He also calls for punitive measures against Syria to compel it to pull its military forces out of Lebanon. Before joining the Defense Department last year, most of the work done by the legal office founded by Feith in Washington was limited to representing Israeli companies and interests, in particular representing Israeli companies that manufacture Israeli weapons, especially those that undertake joint ventures with American militiary aircraft and rocket manufacturers. In 1989 Feith registered a consulting company that he headed with the Justice Department as an agent of the Turkish government in order to strengthen military ties between Washington and Ankara. This step was interpreted in the Turkish press, however, as of great importance because it reinforced Turkish relations with the 'Jewish Lobby' in Washington. End{{{~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes
[CTRL] Insuring the Insurers
-Caveat Lector- From FT.COM (URL @ bottom) }}}Begin Leading insurer warns of threat from Enron fall-out By Adrian Michaels in Hamilton, Bermuda Published: February 20 2002 20:52 | Last Updated: February 20 2002 22:10 A senior executive from AIG, the world's largest insurer, on Wednesday warned that the insurance industry was facing a disastrous run of claims over policies covering shareholder lawsuit liabilities in the wake of the Enron scandal. Thomas Tizzio, senior vice-chairman at AIG, said the financial fall-out from the energy trader's collapse and other high-profile failures such as the recent bankruptcy filing of retailer K-Mart, were a wake-up call for the insurance industry. Insurers write directors and officers policies for companies that are triggered when shareholders file lawsuits after financial shocks. As well as covering awards, insurers usually have to pay legal fees. These account for the lion's share of their liabilities, even if the companies eventually defeat the suits. Mr Tizzio, commenting on the severe market jitters over corporate accounting in recent weeks, said insurers needed to understand the companies they covered and the risks to which they were committing themselves. More than 50 lawsuits have been filed against Enron's directors and executives, seeking compensation and alleging that shareholders were not given an accurate financial picture of the company. Mr Tizzio implied that insurers had not charged enough for DO premiums in general. The focus in 2002 will be on DO in corporate America, he said. This year could ultimately see a catastrophic loss in that sector. The Insurance Information Institute believes that DO policies will be the largest liability problem for the industry this year, even as it battles against uncertainty over claims from any future terrorist attacks. It is estimated that $3bn in DO premiums was taken in last year but that insurers may have to pay out more than $5bn. Mr Tizzio said there had been 487 class-action claims for securities fraud in federal courts last year. In 2000 there were 216. The number of suits started to grow with the bursting of the dotcom bubble, and there is no end in sight, according to Bob Hartwig of the insurance institute. The premium rates that were charged did not anticipate the tremendous surge in suits, he said. [After Enron] the entire investment community has had the revelation that audited reports may not be worth the paper they're written on. Mr Tizzio was delivering the keynote address at the World Insurance Forum in Bermuda yesterday. He replaced Maurice Hank Greenberg, AIG's chairman, who had flu. Separately, insurance leaders renewed their call on Washington to pass legislation that would help ensure cover for any future terrorist acts. Links referenced within this article Find this article at: http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ ftc?pagename=Viewc=Articlecid=FT314O8PXXClive=trueuseoverridetemplate =ZZZ99ZVV70Ctagid=ZZZ60A9VA0Csubheading=americas EMAIL THIS | Close Uncheck the box to remove the list of links referenced in the article. End{{{~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
[CTRL] Afghanland: Bad Luck is better than no luck at all?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=21022002-110934-9401r }}}Begin Locusts poised to plague Afghanistan Published 2/21/2002 11:40 AM ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Feb. 21 (UPI) -- Locusts set to hatch in Afghanistan this spring threaten to devour crops in northern parts of the country, U.N. officials said Thursday. U.N. spokeswoman Rebecca Richards said a scourge of locusts in northern Afghanistan posed a serious threat to food security in the region in the coming weeks, when warm weather is expected to hatch a new wave of bugs. She said locusts are likely to begin hatching in mid-March. Richards said the Food and Agricultural Organization, a branch of the United Nations, is undertaking a treatment campaign for crops in at-risk areas, working closely with nongovernmental organizations and the newly established Afghan Ministry of Agriculture. The campaign is set to go through June, Richards said. The prime concern at the moment is mobilizing the necessary resources, Richards told reporters in Islamabad, the capital of neighboring Pakistan where the United Nations keeps its main regional offices. Following the Sept. 11 events, much has been looted and lost. The threat of a locust plague adds to a long list of miseries in Afghanistan, a country wracked by four years of drought and 23 years of civil war. Despite the crop threat and ongoing drought, Afghanistan likely is to avoid a large- scale food shortage, U.N. officials say. Since October, the World Food Program has managed to truck some 322,500 tons of food aid into Afghanistan in a humanitarian effort U.N. officials say staved off possible famine in the country. Copyright © 2002 United Press International End{{{~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: US militarism targets South American oil
---BeginMessage--- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com World Socialist Web Site www.wsws.org -- -- WSWS : News Analysis : South Central America US militarism targets South American oil By Bill Vann 20 February 2002 Back to screen version | Send this link by email | Email the author Washington's military intervention into Colombia's four-decades-old civil war was initiated nearly two years ago by the Clinton administration with a $1.3 billion emergency military aid package dubbed Plan Colombia. The plan was justified in the name of waging a war on drugs. In the aftermath of September 11, the Bush administration has decided to dramatically expand US military involvement in the South American country. As in Afghanistan, the escalation is being carried out under the banner of the struggle against terrorism, while its real objectives center on securing US corporate control over the region's strategic oil reserves. Even as it prepares to intervene in a more direct military fashion in Colombia, Washington is intensifying its threats against the government of President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, the third-largest exporter of petroleum to the US market. Earlier this month, the administration unveiled plans for the creation of a special 2,000-4,000-member Critical Infrastructure Brigade of the Colombian army that would be deployed to protect US- owned oil installations. Specifically, it would be assigned to guard a nearly 500-mile pipeline that carries oil belonging to Los Angeles- based Occidental Petroleum Corporation from the Caño Limón oilfields in northeast Colombia to the Caribbean port of Coveñas. The pipeline has been a frequent target of guerrilla bombing attacks. The White House has asked Congress to approve $98 million in the 2003 budget for training, arming and supplying US air support for the Colombian pipeline troops. The pipeline is important for the future of ... our petroleum supplies and the confidence of our investors, US Ambassador Anne Patterson said in an interview with the Bogota daily El Tiempo. The funding is on top of $731 million that the administration is seeking to support anti-drug activities ... economic development and the strengthening of democratic institutions in Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, Venezuela and Panama. The lion's share of this funding will go to strengthen the already bloated military establishments that have in the past overthrown elected governments and established dictatorships in each of these countries, with the exception of one. Colombia, which often bills itself as the oldest democracy in Latin America, has not had the same experience with US-backed military coups. It has, however, existed under a state of siege or emergency for most of the last 50 years. Tens of thousands of civilians have been killed by the army and its allies in the paramilitary death squads, and more than 2 million people have been turned into refugees in the last two decades alone. According to press reports, the administration is planning to funnel another $1 billion in military supplies and training to the Colombian military. US Green Beret special forces troops, meanwhile, will play a more direct role as advisors to a counterinsurgency campaign waged against the country's two largest guerrilla groups, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, known by its Spanish acronym FARC, and the National Liberation Army, or ELN. At the same time, the Pentagon is preparing to expand intelligence- sharing with the Colombian military, providing it with communications intercepts and satellite photos to allow it to prosecute a deadlier campaign against the guerrillas and the peasant communities in which they operate. The deployment of additional advisors, together with providing air support and intelligence, marks a qualitative change in the US role in Colombia, which officially had been limited to military aid linked directly to anti-narcotics operations. Even under Clinton, however, securing oil supplies was an unstated objective of Plan Colombia. The provision of attack helicopters and the training of new anti-narcotics brigades in the southern coca- growing regions freed up other units to protect Occidental Petroleum's interests in the north. It was no accident that the California-based petroleum company and the now bankrupt Enron, which carved out extensive natural gas holdings in Colombia, were among the biggest backers of Plan Colombia, lobbying Congress to approve
[CTRL] Hearing Voices?
-Caveat Lector- http://wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,50483,00.html Point-'n'-Shoot Sound Makes Waves By John Gartner 2:00 a.m. Feb. 21, 2002 PST Those voices in your head may be real. Researchers have developed technology that can project a beam of sound so narrow that only one person can hear it. Directed audio sounds like it's coming from right in front of you even when transmitted from a few hundred meters away. Inventors of the new ventriloquist technology say it could provide an added dimension to entertainment. The military, however, is investigating using it to confuse opponents or even inflict pain. The Audio Spotlight is one of two competing audio transmission systems that emit a one-foot square column of sound that can only be heard by people in its direct path. Joseph Pompei, a PhD student at the MIT Media Lab, decided to develop it while working at audio company Bose, which he joined at 16 as its youngest-ever engineer. Pompei, who used to play jazz trumpet in nightclubs in Chicago, became interested in how sound systems reproduce and distribute music. He thought it would be cool to choreograph sound just like you would dancers on stage. Pompei imagined that instead of loudspeakers blaring the same cacophony of instruments to all parts of the room, it would be more interesting to selectively spotlight the soloist to the left side of the audience, while featuring the percussion up front, and then switching them around. Sound in real life is occurring all around you. Regular speakers only go so far in reproducing an accurate environment, Pompei said. Pompei developed the first demonstration systems of the technology for installations at Sega's Joyopolis theme park in Tokyo and the Boston Museum of Science, and he's planning to start selling it commercially soon. He said museums like the system because visitors who stand in front of an exhibit can hear the appropriate audio track without being distracted by sound from other displays. The Audio Spotlight transmitters range from several inches in diameter to about 20 inches and generate a column of sound between one to three degrees wider than the transmitter. The technology could also be used to prevent fights over the car's radio tuner, Pompei said. He put several Audio Spotlights in a concept truck from Chrysler, which enabled passengers to hear their own radio stations -- the kids in the back seat enjoyed heavy metal while the parents relaxed to elevator music. It could make for much happier trips, he said. The Audio Spotlight converts ordinary audio into high-frequency ultrasonic signals that are outside the range of normal hearing. As these sound waves push out from the source, they interact with air pressure to create audible sounds. Pompei said the non-linear effect of air pressure modifies sound waves in a consistent fashion. He wrote algorithms that reverse-engineered the desired sound waves to determine the appropriate ultrasonic source signals. According to University of Texas professor David Blackstock, high-frequency signals are easier to focus, and control like a flashlight, than sounds that are within the human range of hearing, which disperse in all directions. Blackstock said ultrasonic signals decay more slowly than lower-frequency waves so they are easier to send farther. The Audio Spotlight emits sounds in the 60-kilohertz range, which, according to Blackstock, is well above the 20-KHz limit of human hearing. Blackstock said the first experiments to use ultrasonic sounds were conducted underwater in the 1960s, and Japanese researchers made advances in the 1980s but were unable to create a commercial application for the technology. Pompei said Audio Spotlights are currently being installed in Australia for the upcoming Fringe Festival. Pompei started Holosonic Research Labs to sell Audio Spotlights to corporations such as Kraft and Kodak, which are in the process of integrating them into information kiosks and retail displays. An alternative to Pompei's invention, which also may be commercially available soon, is American Technology's Hypersonic Sound System. The HSS system similarly converts audio into ultrasonic sound waves, and Blackstock was impressed by a demonstration. Blackstock said he heard a clear signal at about 100 meters, but then heard nothing by moving two steps out of the audio's path. It's remarkable, a spectacular effect. American Technology president Terry Conrad said the company is going into its first mass production of chips that convert the audible sounds into ultrasonic waves in February. American Technology recently signed an agreement with the U.S. Army to develop the technology for a decidedly non-commercial use: psychological warfare. According to American Technology CTO Jim Croft, the technology could be used to confuse opponents by making them think there was someone nearby. Small transmitters could be kept out of sight, and ghost sounds could be bounced off rocks or any
[CTRL] Pentagon Propaganda Plan Is Undemocratic, Possibly Illegal (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy In Reporting Media analysis, critiques and activism MEDIA ADVISORY: Pentagon Propaganda Plan Is Undemocratic, Possibly Illegal February 19, 2002 The New York Times reported today that the Pentagons Office of Strategic Influence is developing plans to provide news items, possibly even false ones, to foreign media organizations in an effort to influence public sentiment and policy makers in both friendly and unfriendly countries. The OSI was created shortly after September 11 to publicize the U.S. governments perspective in Islamic countries and to generate support for the U.S.s war on terror. This latest announcement raises grave concerns that far from being an honest effort to explain U.S. policy, the OSI may be a profoundly undemocratic program devoted to spreading disinformation and misleading the public, both at home and abroad. At the same time, involving reporters in disinformation campaigns puts the lives of working journalists at risk. Despite the OSIs multi-million-dollar budget and its mandate to propagandize throughout the Middle East, Asia and Western Europe, even many senior Pentagon officials and Congressional military aides say they know almost nothing about its purpose and plans, according to the Times. The Times reported that the OSIs latest announcement has generated opposition within the Pentagon among those who fear that it will undermine the Defense Departments credibility. Tarnished credibility may be the least of the problems created by the OSIs new plan to manipulate media-- the plan may compromise the free flow of information that democracy relies on. The government is barred by law from propagandizing within the U.S., but the OSIs new plan will likely lead to disinformation planted in a foreign news report being picked up by U.S. news outlets. The war in Afghanistan has shown that the 24-hour news cycle, combined with cuts in the foreign news budgets across the U.S., make overseas outlets like Al-Jazeera and Reuters key resources for U.S. reporters. Any accidental propaganda fallout from the OSIs efforts is troubling enough, but given the U.S. governments track record on domestic propaganda, U.S. media should be pushing especially hard for more information about the operations other, intentional policies. According to the New York Times, one of the military units assigned to carry out the policies of the Office of Strategic Influence is the U.S. Armys Psychological Operations Command (PSYOPS). The Times doesnt mention, however, that PSYOPS has been accused of operating domestically as recently as the Kosovo war. In February 2000, reports in Dutch and French newspapers revealed that several officers from the 4th PSYOPS Group had worked in the news division at CNN's Atlanta headquarters as part of an internship program starting in the final days of the Kosovo War. Coverage of this disturbing story was scarce (see http://www.fair.org/activism/cnn-psyops.html), but after FAIR issued an Action Alert on the story, CNN stated that it had already terminated the program and acknowledged that it was inappropriate. Even if the PSYOPS officers working in the newsroom did not directly influence news reporting, the question remains of whether CNN may have allowed the military to conduct an intelligence-gathering mission against the network itself. The idea isnt far-fetched-- according to Intelligence Newsletter (2/17/00), a rear admiral from the Special Operations Command told a PSYOPS conference that the military needed to find ways to gain control over commercial news satellites to help bring down an informational cone of silence over regions where special operations were taking place. One of CNNs PSYOPS interns worked in the networks satellite division. (During the Afghanistan war the Pentagon found a very direct way to gain controlit simply bought up all commercial satellite images of Afghanistan, in order to prevent media from accessing them.) Its worth noting that the 4th PSYOPS group is the same group that staffed the National Security Council's now notorious Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), which planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration's Central America policies during the 1980s. Described by a senior U.S. official as a vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory (Miami Herald, 7/19/87), the OPD was shut down after the Iran-Contra investigations, but not before influencing coverage in major outlets including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times and Washington Post (Extra!, 9-10/01). The OPD may be gone, but the Bush administrations recent recess appointment of former OPD head Otto Reich as assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs is not reassuring. It suggests, at best, a troubling indifference to
[CTRL] Microsoft's lobbying efforts eclipse Enron
-Caveat Lector- http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-835267.html Microsoft's lobbying efforts eclipse Enron By Matt Loney ZDNet (UK) February 12, 2002, 7:40 AM PT Microsoft's budget for political lobbying exceeded that of Enron, the judge residing over the antitrust case has heard. The software giant's budget for its Political Action Committee (PAC) increased from about $16,000 in 1995 to $1.6 million in 2000, according to Edward Roeder, a self-styled expert on efforts to influence the U.S. government, and founder of Sunshine Press Services, a news agency devoted to investigating money in politics. Roeder's report was submitted to Judge Kollar-Kotelly at the end of January. Microsoft has been unable to comment. Judge Kollar-Kotelly heard that total donations to political donations from Microsoft and its employees to political parties, candidates and PACs in the 2000 election cycle amounted to more than $6.1 million. During this period, Microsoft and its executives accounted for $2.3 million in soft money contributions, compared to $1.55 million by Enron and its executives for the same period. Soft money is the term generally given to unregulated corporate and individual contributions that cannot go directly to candidates, but which typically goes to political parties. The evidence came from a review commissioned by the Computer Communications Industry Association. Roeder said that although the research was commissioned by the CCIA--a known critic of Microsoft--the evidence was based on the extraordinary public record of Microsoft's political activities during the timeframe of this trial. Roeder said that his review of the available documents has led him to conclude that over the past five years, Microsoft has engaged in political influence peddling in many ways unprecedented in modern political history. The report was delivered in response to the deal unexpectedly reached between Microsoft and the U.S. Department of Justice last year after Microsoft had been found guilty of violating antitrust laws. Microsoft's campaign contributions significantly surpassed those of Enron, said Roeder in his report. It appears Microsoft may have successfully influenced the administration's antitrust policy, with major implications for legal antitrust pecedent. Microsoft insists it did not participate in any backroom deals. Nevertheless, Roeder recommended that the court undertake an immediate review of Microsoft's lobbying activities surrounding this settlement, with particular attention to meetings with the Justice Department of the White House by Microsoft or its agents. What makes Microsoft's lobbying throughout the trial so unique is not necessarily the size of political contributions but the scope of its efforts and the speed at which Microsoft went from having almost no political presence in Washington to having one of the largest and most sophisticated political operations. In 1995, the company had just a single lobbyist based in Chevy Chase, Maryland; today, it has one of the largest PACs in U.S. corporate history, said Roeder. Microsoft has leapt to the top of the corporate contributor list in soft money contributions. The size and speed of this leap was staggering. In the seven days preceding Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's ruling against Microsoft, said Roeder, the company donated more soft money to the national political parties than it gave to federal candidates and political parties in the seven years spanning 1989 to 1996. And during the 1999-2000 election cycle, Microsoft and its executives accounted for some $2,298,551 in soft money contributions. Enron, by comparison, donated $1,546,055 during the same period. Microsoft's direct lobbying has also grown out of all proportion, so that it now retains more lobbyists than the handful of companies with more than 300,000 employees. Microsoft has just 30,000 employees. Part of the reasoning for extensive use of retainers, says Roeder, citing a Business Week article, is to suck all the oxygen out. In Washington State, Microsoft has hired many law firms with antitrust expertise to work in unrelated areas. The strategy was extended to other key states, with the dual benefits of starving the opposition of experienced lobbyists, and achieving political results that have benefited the company's case. In South Carolina, one of the states originally participating in the antitrust suit, Microsoft contributed $25,000 to attorney general Charles Condon shortly before his re-election in 1998. According to the chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party this was the largest unsolicited donation ever received. Three weeks after Condon won the election, South Carolina withdrew from the antitrust case. The analysis of donations by political party shows some surprising results. While Microsoft donations favored Republicans (who got 72 percent of the money from 1995 to 1998), its employees were more inclined to support the Democrats. Democratic PACs
[CTRL] Secret Sweetheart deal between DOJ and M$ execs
-Caveat Lector- Secret Sweetheart deal between DOJ and M$ execs? On Newsforge, Feb 20, 11:58: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/20/1619205 Wednesday February 20, @11:58AM [ Government ] - By Jack Bryar - Is it really possible that when Microsoft set out to market a Linux killer last November it began to get itself into more legal difficulty than ever before? And could it blow up into a political scandal as well? Perhaps the weeping Canadian figure skaters kept you distracted this week, but if you were sifting through the public comments in the Microsoft antitrust case, you'd notice that the New York Times, among others, is hinting that the sweetheart settlement proposed between Microsoft and Assistant Attorney General Charles A. James is about to blow up, big time. The proposed antitrust settlement between Microsoft and the U.S. Department of Justice drew about 30,000 comments, more than any business case in recent memory. The DOJ and the court released 47 of the most substantial of these comments. They are worth reading. Most of them lay out the technical and legal flaws in the settlement. A couple of comments, notably the detailed suggestions of connectivity maven Dan Kegel, lay out the wording needed to make the settlement an effective document. However, several other comments focused on whether or not the Microsoft and the DOJ have violated the Tunney Act in its first big test since the Act was passed in 1974. At issue: the legal obligation of Microsoft and the DOJ to document exactly what was said to justice officials by Microsoft during negotiations. Was there an covert deal, generated by secret Microsoft lobbying and tons of soft money contributions? Among the curious is none other than former U.S. Senator John V. Tunney, the author of the sunshine legislation bearing his name. The Tunney Act is supposed to prevent government litigators from entering into sweetheart deals with their adversaries. One of the mechanisms of the act is supposed to be full disclosure of all contacts and all representations made during negotiations between parties. Tunney filed a comment with Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly insisting that, in order to comply with the Tunney Act, Microsoft must specify all contacts between it and the government and what was said. In his statement, Tunney said, In my opinion, it is essential that all discussions between the defendant corporation and the government ... that might have led to a proposal settlement decree be disclosed. The Senate Judiciary Committee made much the same point, stating that Microsoft has made no secret of the political influence it has sought to create during this trial. The committee suggested that is was concerned that Microsoft had engaged in precisely the sort of secret lobbying of Justice Department officials that the Tunney Act was designed to expose. The New York Times has also weighed in with an opinion that, contrary to the Tunney Act, Microsoft has not disclosed who attended this and other meetings. Nor has Microsoft described in even the most cursory fashion the substance of any of these communications, the Times stated. Two sets of dates are of particular interest to outside observers. These are October 5 and October 30-31. I earlier wrote a column about the Halloween negotiations between Microsoft and Assistant Attorney General Charles A. James, when James effectively left the Justice experts advising him outside the room. Litigators for the states that have refused to accept the settlement are understandably curious about just what was said in those negotiations. They are even more curious because of the possibility that James and his staff may have been misled by Microsoft officials at an earlier meeting, and the effect it may have had on any discussions of unbundling. Unbundling was an idea in circulation during most of the antitrust litigation. Part of what brought Microsoft into court was the company's bundling of Internet Explorer (and since then, its video package) into the core of the Windows operating system. Microsoft vehemently insisted throughout the last several years that unbundling Explorer, in particular, couldn't be accomplished without wrecking the integrity of the platform. The state attorneys general could not help but notice when last November Microsoft announced ... an unbundled Windows! Marketed as a Linux killer, Microsoft newest iteration of its codebase was called Windows XP Embedded. To the holdout states' way of looking at it, here were all the components that Microsoft asserted couldn't be separated, available at a price for developers who wanted to Windows enable their CD players or cell phones. It would be hard to imagine that in October, Microsoft senior management would not know about XP Embedded's pending release in November. This why observers are curious about what was said at a technical meeting held October 5 between Microsoft and Justice officials. Microsoft has failed to disclose
Re: [CTRL] EU - Move to ban Net hate speech provokes mixed response
-Caveat Lector- By all means...let us talk about what we are not supposed to talk about. Otherwise how can we be law abiding citizens? POC On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Joshua Tinnin wrote: -Caveat Lector- from - http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020222/l22327554_2.html Friday February 22, 12:41 pm Eastern Time Move to ban Net hate speech provokes mixed response By Bernhard Warner, European Internet Correspondent LONDON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Authors of emails and Internet postings that contain racist or xenophobic material could face criminal charges under a proposed European treaty that is dividing the Internet and law enforcement communities. The proposal, drafted by the Council of Europe (an influential legal forum that works to harmonise laws across Europe) would essentially outlaw the publishing of ``hate speech'' on the Internet. Welcomed by law enforcement agencies, it has been slammed by Internet firms as impossible to enforce. Known as the Convention on Cybercrime, the proposal has received input from 43 European countries plus the United States, Japan, Canada and South Africa. It would need individual ratification in each country before becoming law. It has so far been signed, but not yet ratified, by 32 nations. The proposal seeks to create a comprehensive legal framework for Europe's crimefighters in their efforts to identify and prosecute cross-border hate crimes on the Internet, something politicians are eager to address in the wake of the September 11 attacks. We must harmonise the laws first so that countries can co-operate in criminal investigations regarding the Internet, Peter Csonka, principal administrator at the Council of Europe, told Reuters on Friday. He added that many member states have already criminalised certain activities regarded as racist or xenophobic -- such as threatening a group on the grounds of race, colour or religion -- and the treaty would seek to extend these measures to the Internet. FREE SPEECH OR RACIAL HATRED? The proposal has already provoked protest from civil liberties groups who maintain it could criminalise free speech, and from some Internet firms concerned by liability issues. Csonka said that telecoms firms and Internet service providers (ISPs) have contacted the council asking for clarification on whether they would be held liable for hate speech posted or emailed by their customers. ISPs typically operate a policy of ``notification and takedown'' in which they will remove sites containing objectionable material if it's first brought to their attention. Self-policing in this manner, they say, is the best way to tackle hate speech online. It's almost impossible, and this is the consensus in the ISP community, to monitor every single piece of Web space in the Internet community, said Paul Barker, director of corporate affairs at Freeserve, the British ISP owned by France's Wanadoo . Csonka said the liability concerns raised by ISPs and Web site operators have not yet been addressed. Civil liberty groups have also objected to the proposal, fearing it could bring the more rigorous anti-hate speech laws that exist in continental Europe to the more liberal UK and United States. For example, it is unlawful to post or sell Nazi regalia or propaganda on the Internet in France and Germany, but there are few legal curbs in the U.S. and Britain. This proposal could potentially outlaw free speech, said Malcolm Hutty, general director for Campaign Against Censorship on the Internet in Britain, or CACIB. That would be a great infringement of civil rights. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
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http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=97contentid=468 Tom Clancy: Disinformation Artist by STEVEN AFTERGOOD (fas.org) Tom Clancy's 1984 novel "The Hunt for Red October" was once the unlikely vehicle for a deliberate U.S. Navy disinformation effort targeted at the Soviet Union. According to Sherry Sontag's and Christopher Drew's 1998 book "Blind Man's Bluff," Clancy's novel about the search for a rogue Soviet submarine, which was first published by the U.S. Naval Institute, underwent prepublication review by the Navy. Upon review, the Navy found "that about two-thirds of the technical information was on target and the rest was wrong, and that it typically overstated U.S. abilities," Sontag and Drew wrote. But "rather than blocking publication of the book, or attempting to correct the misperceptions, when Clancy submitted his manuscript to the Navy for clearance, [CNO Admiral James D.] Watkins said he decided to let the book go forward as it was." "'The Hunt for Red October' did us a service," Adm. Watkins told Sontag and Drew. "The Soviets kind of believed it, and we won the battle, and therefore it was a significant part of the noncostly deterrence of submarines." ("Blind Man's Bluff," page 322).
[CTRL] Games - Please Read
-Caveat Lector- Dear Friends: I have uploaded 5 games to a friend. If any of you would like these games in the next 24 hours let me know. It will be easy to forward them but for only 24 hrs. The games are Elf Bowling Elf Bowling 2 Chicken Archery Frogpult Moraff's Games (pinball big taipai games) Let me know which ones you want or want them all. God Bless; Bill A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: CONFIRMED!--Interceptors at WTC Before FIRST Hit/Ordered to back off
---BeginMessage--- x ** TOP_VIEW ** x The Bigger Picture 2.22.02 Reports, Video CONFIRM!--Interceptors at WTC Before FIRST Hit/Ordered to back off Proof is proof. = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:00:06 -0600 From: michael handy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The answer is at Otis AFB http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/archives/2001/sep/16/didhijackers16.htm Was interception possible? Published reports Friday and yesterday said that Otis jets did scramble to intercept the hijacked airliners, although the reports gave differing times for that action. The above article verifies fighters scrambled from Otis ANG. Another quote from the article: The spokesman, Maj. Mike Snyder, said NORAD was notified about 10 minutes before Flight 11 hit the World Trade Center. That notification would have come around 8:35 a.m. The airliner hit the North Tower around 8:45 a.m. An F-15 Eagle can fly at about three times the speed of a 767. An F-15 departing from Otis can reach New York City in 10 to 12 minutes, according to an Otis spokewoman. Neither NORAD nor the 102nd will comment on whether the wing scrambled to intercept any of the airliners. The above statement of a scramble at 8:35 EDT on 9/11 verifies this video clip from CNN. Also, pay close attention to the fireman and which direction he looks when he hears the fighter going by. http://www.halturnershow.com/Plane1.asx (I DO NOT ENDORSE MR. TURNER OR ANY OF HIS BIGOTED OR RACIST OPINIONS - Michael) [US EITHER! - T_V] In the video, the fireman looked for the jet he heard IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE TOWERS. The explosion you hear is a SONIC BOOM. not the explosion from flight 11 striking the north tower. A US Army Artillery expert has analyzed the sound and the visual timing of the explosion for me. He has stated the explosion is definitely a SONIC BOOM, not Flight 11's impact and subsequent detonation. You can also tell by the sound of the fly-by that the jet you hear is flying MUCH FASTER THAN A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER IS CAPABLE OF. This video clip is CONCLUSIVE. Fighter aircraft WERE in the area at the time of the FIRST IMPACT and so were obviously there for the second. any stories to the contrary are FALSE. Michael HAndy ---End Message---
[CTRL] ANTHRAX COVER-UP?
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j022202.html ANTHRAX COVER-UP? We know who the suspects are – so why no arrest? The news that the US government has set up a special department, the "Office of Strategic Influence," to plant false news items has liberals and journalists (or do I repeat myself?) in a funk: this is terrible, they whine, why it's unprecedented. To which the only possible reply is: Oh really? DISINFORMATION: A SHORT HISTORY The US government has been playing the same game since the dawn of the cold war, when the Congress of Cultural Freedom was run as a CIA operation to influence world opinion in the struggle against the Soviet Union: A whole raft of ostensibly "private" individuals, such as Irving Kristol, a CCF stalwart, and assorted other intellectuals-for-hire, were on the CIA payroll, although they may not have known it (or wanted to know it) at the time. The Agency cultivated "mainstream" journalists, planted news stories, and routinely used the media to mislead, misinform, and confuse. Do you mean the government is lying to us, scream the liberals, who are shocked – shocked! – that such a thing is possible. Fer chrissake, what do you think they've been doing all along? THE BIG LIE The US government is spreading lies. Why is this considered so unusual? After all, our entire foreign policy is based on a structure of lies, the central one being the inevitable beneficence and altruism of the United States as a world power; and this, in turn, is based on the Biggest Lie of Them All, the one that seeks to justify and explain every bit of self-aggrandizement on the part of our great and glorious leaders: the lie of "democracy," which rubberstamps, every four years or so, decisions that have already been made by those who really rule. EMANATIONS OF UNTRUTH So they're lying to us: but lies come in all sorts of colors and shades of prevarication, including the more subtle emanations of untruth that might be called lies of omission. Liars must always cover their tracks: indeed, government officials spend a lot of their time, energy – and your money – doing exactly that. It isn't what they're telling us that matters so much: any halfway conscious human being is smart enough to discount that right off the bat. It's what they're not telling us that counts. GATE-KEEPERS Of course, in this day and age, for a lie to go over, government officials must have at least the passive cooperation of journalists – or at least those relatively few gatekeepers who pretty much still determine what gets reported and what is relegated to the Memory Hole. This doesn't mean that journalists are recruited to write lies, but, somehow, they know what not to write about. TWO SPIKED STORIES A good example is the four-part series on Fox News reporting on an extensive Israeli spy operation in the US that was discovered, apparently, prior to 9/11 – and raising the possibility of Israeli foreknowledge of the attacks. After four days of one stunning revelation after another – the Israelis had penetrated US government communications systems, they had been watching Al Qaeda cells in the US, and had sent agents to penetrate US military facilities – the story dropped like a stone in a bottomless abyss, noiselessly and seemingly without leaving so much as a ripple of air in its wake. Another example: the story about how the stocks of certain companies with a 9/11 connection were dramatically manipulated in the days and hours prior to the attacks. Who profited? What became of the promised Securities and Exchange Commission investigation? So far we have heard not a peep out of the news media on this, nor has anyone in Congress bothered to ask questions. AT LOOSE ENDS But the most dramatic loose end left conspicuously hanging in the aftermath of 9/11 is undoubtedly the anthrax story. For a few weeks in October, and into November, the anthrax letters sent to media outlets and prominent elected officials were the top story: but when the attacks stopped, and the media ran out of scare stories on the possibilities of bio-terrorism (after all, how many documentaries about smallpox and ebola can you run without sending the audience fleeing?) the coverage sputtered out rather quickly, and soon came to a complete dead end. The investigation, too, seemed to have reached a similar blind alley: the authorities were baffled, or so they said. But they were lying: indeed, as the investigation proceeded, usually voluble government officials, eager to be seen as "on the job," were laconic in their public pronouncements. On November 19, John Bolton, Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, averred that "We don't know…at the moment, in a way that we could make public, where the anthrax attacks came from." Of course they can't make it public: because, at the very least, the truth points to their own incompetence and passive complicity. And, at worst … WHY THE FOOT-DRAGGING? Barbara Hatch
[CTRL] Email Attack
-Caveat Lector- Just wanted to let the person who sent me a couple of messages last night that completely shut down my email reception, know that I found the source of the problem and my email is working fine again. And I dare you to try it again. ;-) Steve In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CONFIRMED!--Interceptors at WTC Before FIRST Hit/Ordered to back off
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: CONFIRMED!--Interceptors at WTC Before FIRST Hit/Ordered to back off A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] clinton and enron, anthrax and scientist
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/21/153014.shtml Clinton Repaid Enron With $1 Billion in Subsidized Loans Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com Friday, Feb. 22, 2002 Democrats have hoped the Enron scandal would tar the Bush administration, but as investigators dig deeper it's the Clinton administration and the Dems who are emerging as the villains of the piece. The Washington Times reported Thursday that the Clinton administration coughed up more than $1 billion in taxpayer-subsidized loans to Enron Corp. just when the energy giant was kicking in almost $2 million for Democrat causes. And as we have previously reported, to help persuade then-President Bill Clinton to push the disastrous Kyoto Protocol, Enron gave $420,000 to Democrats. Times reporter Patrice Hill writes that, according to the Export-Import Bank and the Overseas Private Investment Corp., the agencies that provided the subsidies, the Clinton administration turned down only one out of 20 Enron projects to build power plants, natural-gas pipelines and other big-ticket energy facilities between 1993 and 2000. Moreover, the Clinton administration, which lauded Chairman Kenneth L. Lay as an exemplary 'corporate citizen,' granted about $200 million worth of insurance against political risks for nine Enron projects in such politically volatile areas as Argentina, Venezuela and the Gaza Strip, according to documents the agencies provided to the Senate Finance Committee. http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/news/times/02-21-I_AR1JBB.html Anthrax expert stands by her claim 02/21/02 By JOSEPH DEE Staff Writer A biological weapons control expert yesterday refused to back down from her claim that the FBI has a prime suspect in last autumn's deadly anthrax letters episode, despite strenuous denials by the bureau. She speculated that FBI agents might still be building their case against the suspect and possible accomplicesDuring a Monday lecture at Princeton University, Rosenberg said the FBI has a prime suspect and might be dragging its feet in making an arrest because he has ties to secret U.S. military biological weapons programsRosenberg said the perpetrator is likely a former Fort Detrick research scientist who was familiar with classified information on a process to make the powder useful as a weapon. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [VoterMarch] GREG PALAST - UPDATE ON BOOK TOUR FOR THE BEST DEMOCRACY THAT MONEY CAN BUY
---BeginMessage--- ADVERTISEMENThttp://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sh/sharebuilder/300x250_blue_gen_msn.gif Yahoo! Groups My Groups | VoterMarch Main Page http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=217097.1902236.3397169.1261774/D=egroupmail/S=1705204975:HM/A=960173/rand=515166127 NEW BOOK AND TOUR BY BBC INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER GREG PALAST (http://www.votermarch.org/Palast.htm) Greg Palast, the award winning BBC Investigative Reporter, has just come out with a new book, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy - An Investigative Reporter Exposes the Truth about Globalization, Corporate Cons, and High Finance." In December 2000, Palast published the Salon.com story exposing how Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris stripped thousands of their right to vote - 54% of them African-Americans - overwhelmingly Democrats. See Salon Magazine article: Florida's flawed "voter-cleansing" program, and the Nation Magazine article: Florida's 'Disappeared Voters': Disfranchised by the GOP Since then, Palast has dug deeper - in reports for BBC Television and for page one of London's Guardian - big news in Europe, embargoed by US media. Palast exposes "some of the most egregious cases of political corruption, corporate fraud, and political manipulation, globally." Palast has been sounding the alarm on Enron for seven years (see the "Power Pirates" chapter). For BBC Television Palast broke the news that Bush quashed intelligence agencies' investigations into the bin Laden family prior to September 11. For these and other stories, Palast was named "Reporter of the Year" by America's Guerrilla News Network. The stories were big around the globe - but not in the USA. But you'll have it all in the book - introduced by Joe Conason and Will Hutton - which will include the never-published stories of ugly doings in Katherine Harris' office prior to the election. A bit will be excerpted in the upcoming issue of Harper's Magazine. But the book goes way beyond the election. Palast follows the money: from the $13 million payment by Global Crossing Inc to Poppy Bush, the bin Ladin story, and an award-winning exposé of the World Bank's mad doings from Tanzania to Argentina ("Globalization and its Discontents").About the author Gregory PalastGreg Palast is an internationally recognized expert on the control of corporate power working with labor unions and consumer groups in the USA, South America and Europe. In America, among his more noted cases, he directed government investigations and prosecution of racketeering by nuclear plant builders and, for the Chugach Natives of Alaska, probed charges offraud by oil companies in the grounding of the Exxon Valdez.Five years ago, Palast turned his investigative skills to journalism. His 1998 undercover exposé of corruption at the heart of Tony Blair's cabinet, "Lobbygate," earned him the distinction of being the first journalist in memory berated personally on the floor of Parliament by a prime minister - aswell as an award for Story of the Year. His column for Britain's Observer newspaper, "Inside Corporate America," and other writings, have won him the Financial Times David Thomas Prize (1997) and nomination as Business Journalist of the Year (1999).In America, Palast broke the story of how Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush removed thousands of Black and Democratic voters from registration roles prior to the presidential election. The series of revelations, appeared in The Nation, the Washington Post, Harper's, the Guardian -- and in Salon.com which named the exposé Politics Story of the Year. Palast's investigativereports can also be seen on BBC Television - "Newsnight's own Sam Spade."Publication of Democracy and Regulation, Palast's lectures at Cambridge University and the University of São Paulo, co-authored by Theo MacGregor and Jerrold Oppenheim, is forthcoming. He divides his time between London and New York.==="Palast is astonishing, he gets the real evidence no one else has the guts to dig up." -Vincent Bugliosi author of None Dare Call it Treason and Helter Skelter "Greg Palast is investigative journalism at it's best. No one has exposed more truth about the Bush Cartel and lived to tell the story." Baltimore Chronicle"Your Bullshit axe to grind with Bush is just another example of how far a punk ass loser will go to slander our president." (Signed) "A Real American.""His stories about Bush's election theft, about intelligence agency cover-ups, and globalization - backed up
Re: [CTRL] clinton and enron, anthrax and scientist
-Caveat Lector- Dude - ken lay had a desk in the bush white house He guided dubbya's appointments and many many many members of bush's staff come from enron's corporate fold. Bush campaigned in the enron jet. Give me a fucking break -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis D. Brandeis NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Smart News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:40:00 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] clinton and enron, anthrax and scientist -Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/21/153014.shtml Clinton Repaid Enron With $1 Billion in Subsidized Loans Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com Friday, Feb. 22, 2002 Democrats have hoped the Enron scandal would tar the Bush administration, but as investigators dig deeper it's the Clinton administration and the Dems who are emerging as the villains of the piece. The Washington Times reported Thursday that the Clinton administration coughed up more than $1 billion in taxpayer-subsidized loans to Enron Corp. just when the energy giant was kicking in almost $2 million for Democrat causes. And as we have previously reported, to help persuade then-President Bill Clinton to push the disastrous Kyoto Protocol, Enron gave $420,000 to Democrats. Times reporter Patrice Hill writes that, according to the Export-Import Bank and the Overseas Private Investment Corp., the agencies that provided the subsidies, the Clinton administration turned down only one out of 20 Enron projects to build power plants, natural-gas pipelines and other big-ticket energy facilities between 1993 and 2000. Moreover, the Clinton administration, which lauded Chairman Kenneth L. Lay as an exemplary 'corporate citizen,' granted about $200 million worth of insurance against political risks for nine Enron projects in such politically volatile areas as Argentina, Venezuela and the Gaza Strip, according to documents the agencies provided to the Senate Finance Committee. http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/news/times/02-21-I_AR1JBB.html Anthrax expert stands by her claim 02/21/02 By JOSEPH DEE Staff Writer A biological weapons control expert yesterday refused to back down from her claim that the FBI has a prime suspect in last autumn's deadly anthrax letters episode, despite strenuous denials by the bureau. She speculated that FBI agents might still be building their case against the suspect and possible accomplicesDuring a Monday lecture at Princeton University, Rosenberg said the FBI has a prime suspect and might be dragging its feet in making an arrest because he has ties to secret U.S. military biological weapons programsRosenberg said the perpetrator is likely a former Fort Detrick research scientist who was familiar with classified information on a process to make the powder useful as a weapon. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and
[CTRL] AF News 23 Feb 02
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 0289. New Jersey Air Guard goes all out by Linda D. Kozaryn American Forces Press Service OPERATION NOBLE EAGLE (AFPN) -- Last year's Sept. 11 terrorist attack turned the New Jersey Air National Guard's 177th Fighter Wing upside down, the wing commander said. Typically, a Guard unit is 30 percent full-timers and 70 percent traditional guardsmen, said Col. Mike Cosby. As a result of [Sept. 11] and the partial mobilization by the president, about 65 percent of our people are full time. A Guard unit typically works about nine hours a day, Cosby said. Our unit was a little atypical in that we ran two shifts, which meant we worked from about 6 in the morning until about 10 or 11 at night. Now, since [Sept. 11], we're working 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The wing's missions are also significantly different, he said. We used to train here in the United States, Cosby said. We would go out and fly air-to-air missions or drop bombs on our bombing range. Now, we're actually flying live...combat air patrols over our own continental United States. Cosby said 177th FW fighters last flew combat air patrols as part of Operation Southern Watch in October 2000. That's where we flew the exact same mission, combat air patrols, but in this case, it was over Iraq, he said. Then to imagine less than a year later you're doing the exact same mission over your own country is kind of a sobering thought. Since Sept. 11, 177th FW pilots have patrolled the northeast corridor from New York City to Washington as part of Operation Noble Eagle. They have flown more than 825 combat air patrols totaling more than 3,100 flying hours, doubling the number of hours they had normally fly in the same time frame. Unlike normal deployments where we all pack up and we all go someplace overseas, isolate ourselves and focus strictly on the war or the mission at hand, now members of my unit have to go home (at the end of their shift), Cosby said. They have to make dinner for the kids, do homework, go to the basketball or baseball game, fix the car, clean the gutters and paint the house and cut the lawn. There are a lot more issues they're involved with here because we're 'deployed at home station.' The majority of the guardsmen's employers, probably more than 95 percent, fully support their employees and the Guard mission, Cosby said. Some supplement employees' salaries if they have taken a significant cut because they are now on active duty. Some employers continue to provide health care and insurance for not only the employee but also the employee's family, he said. In some cases, however, the officials had to educate employers on the laws associated with the president's partial mobilization. The Air National Guard hasn't been partially mobilized since Vietnam, Cosby said. Some employers are not sure what the rules, responsibilities and obligations are under U.S. Title 10. Once we explained the rules of a partial mobilization and the law that governs it, we've haven't had any problem. The Guard took a proactive stance by holding press conferences, explaining the rules on television and passing out flyers, he said. New Jersey also has a very active Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve program headed by a retired general that helps explain the situation to employers, he said. By law, a partial mobilization can last up to two years. Our orders are cut year to year, Cosby said. I can't tell you when (Operation) Noble Eagle is going to end. I can't tell you when our partial mobilization is going to end. I can't tell the families or the employers when it's going to end, either. But based on the wing's re-enlistment rates, guardsmen must agree with their commander's view that there is no higher calling, especially for a citizen soldier, than to defend your own country. Reup rates (are) up almost 90 percent, Cosby said. People are proud of the job that they do and they're proud to be associated with a first-class organization. The wing's mission-capable rate on its circa 1983- and 1984-vintage F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft is also above 90 percent, Cosby said. Normally, it runs about 70 to 75 percent. We're flying airplanes more, so they get more maintenance, he said. We have higher priority on parts than we did before because we're in a combat operation. So, there are a lot of things that contribute to that (mission-capable rate), but the bottom line is the young kid that's bending the wrench and making it happen out on the flightline. The high operations tempo is taking its toll, Cosby said. Are we getting tired? Yes, he said. The tempo's up significantly. We've doubled our flying hours. How long can we do this? As long as the president asks us to do it. 0291. Scientist, engineer recruiting vital to transformation mission by Tech. Sgt. Scott Elliott Air Force Print News WASHINGTON -- The Air
Re: [CTRL] AF News 23 Feb 02
-Caveat Lector- What a novel thought. The Armed Forces actually protecting us. How bout that? Could be a trend. Though I doubt it. BillK That's where we flew the exact same mission, combat air patrols, but in this case, it was over Iraq, he said. Then to imagine less than a year later you're doing the exact same mission over your own country is kind of a sobering thought. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The 10th Amendment
-Caveat Lector- Don't look now but Massachusetts just made a 180 degree turn! -- Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! The 10th Amendment The 10th Amendment is one of the most important safeguards against the federal government encroaching the rights of the states. In the 1880's it was known as the quarantine amendment. The State of Massachusetts would not even join the Union until the 10th Amendment was accepted as part of the Constitution. In Judge Cooley's book , Constitutional Limitations, on page 706 it says: In the American Constitutional system, the power to establish the ordinary police regulations has been left with the individual States and it can not be taken from them, either wholly or in part, and exercised under legislation of Congress. Neither can the National Government through any of its departments and officers, assume any supervision of police regulations of the States. What is meant by police powers? The states' powers were health, education, welfare, family affairs and police protection. Please read that sentence again. Collectively they are referred to as the police powers of the states. Clearly and unmistakably our founding fathers intended the states to be in full control of health, education, welfare and police protection, and not subject to federal government interference. The clear and unmistakable language of the 10th Amendment prevents a federal police force interfering with law enforcement in the states. In the name of terrorism or Jack The Ripper, the federal government nor any of its agencies ATF, FEMA, FBI, CIA, etc. etc., has no right of interference into the local and State policing duties. And incidentally, there are many who believe that TERRORISM is a home-front POLICE issue, as I do as well. Have you ever noticed that the federal government always makes its biggest advancements in growth, power and money when it declares a war? War on Drugs, War on Education, War on Pollution, War on Poverty, War on Terrorism?? What war? There has been no declaration of war declared by Congress. Yet the people continue to fund and support these unconstitutional acts of government. The most important feature of the 10th Amendment is that it fixes limitations on the federal government which is one of delegated powers and not original powers. This makes it impossible for the federal government to take any power by inference. The power to be taken, or exercised must be clearly expressed in the Constitution or it cannot be taken. In Article V there is the right to amend but not to make new. It would not be an amendment to abolish the Constitution and adopt the Communist Manifesto or the laws of another country. An amendment has to be something germane to the instrument; it must be something already in the Constitution or it fails the test of an amendment. Making a new Constitution would only be binding to the states that agreed to be bound by it and could not become a part of the Constitution until every state adopted it. What this means is, no one can alter the 10th Amendment nor twist it to suit their own purpose, nor can the federal government do anything which is not in its delegated powers, Article I, Sec. 8, Clauses 1-18. The 10th Amendment fixes the type of limitation upon organic law, and makes the federal government one of delegated powers and not original powers. The 10th Amendment puts police powers, health, education, and welfare out of reach of the central government and gives these powers solely to the states. The rape of the 10th Amendment has been a highlight of every administration for the past 100 years. And it has long been the desire of the communist, socialist and liberals to get bills passed at break-neck speeds that would negate the 10th Amendment. This would allow the federal government to control education, health, welfare, and policing. One of the most serious violations of the 10th Amendment occurred when President Teddy Roosevelt twisted and squeezed the Constitution in defiance of the 10th Amendment creating the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Federal Bureau of Investigation was established by an unconstitutional act called executive order. Because the Constitution does not allow a Federal Police Force. (You may recall a recent article from Congressman Ron Paul on FEDERAL POLICE FORCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.) If our nation were obedient to the Constitution, the FBI would be no more than security guards guarding federal property. Today, the FBI and the CIA is one of the greatest threats to citizens' liberties in America. A large proportion of the FBI's methods of collecting information are not subject to public accountability, which is the very reason why the founding fathers decreed that there could be no central police apparatus and law enforcement was left up to the states under the 10th Amendment. In most states we have Constable's and we have Sheriff's. They are the supreme law
[CTRL] WAR ON THE CONSTITUTION
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Wed Feb 20 02:10:07 2002 68.3.132.0 WAR ON THE CONSTITUTION By Rafe Husa We have bombing and war yet there is no declaration of war. A new Cabinet position (Homeland Security) has been created yet Congress passed neither enabling legislation nor has Congress appropriated funding of such, nor has the Cabinet Member been confirmed by Congress. NO MONEY SHALL BE DRAWN FROM THE TREASURY, BUT IN CONSEQUENCE OF APPROPRIATIONS MADE BY LAW; AND A REGULAR STATEMENT AND ACCOUNT OF THE RECEIPTS AND EXPENDITURES OF ALL PUBLIC MONEY SHALL BE PUBLISHED FROM TIME TO TIME. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION SEC 9. We have learned of selective suspension of Habeas Corpus yet no martial law or state of emergency has been declared. THE PRIVILEGE OF THE WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS SHALL NOT BE SUSPENDED, UNLESS WHEN IN CASES OF REBELLION OR INVASION THE PUBLIC SAFETY MAY REQUIRE IT. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION SEC 9. Thousands of people have disappeared with not even their lawyers knowing their whereabouts.is it protective custody or internment? Congress has passed legislation under duress while it was being attacked by Anthrax mail. The attacks stopped immediately after Congress passed the Patriot Act. The source of anthrax is openly admitted to coming from US defense laboratories. Congress did not even get a chance to read legislation that it has passed let alone debate it. Congressman Ron Paul (RTX) Said IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE BILL WASN'T PRINTED BEFORE THE VOTE - AT LEAST I COULDN'T GET IT. THEY PLAYED ALL KINDS OF GAMES, KEPT THE HOUSE IN SESSION ALL NIGHT, AND IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED BILL. MAYBE A HANDFUL OF STAFFERS ACTUALLY READ IT, BUT THE BILL DEFINITELY WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO MEMBERS BEFORE THE VOTE. Violations **The First Amendment right of free speech and association; **The Fourth No searches without warrants, there does not now exist any category called unreasonable searches and seizures all searches are effectively legal, specifically secret searches; THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS, AND EFFECTS, AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED, AND NO WARRANTS SHALL ISSUE, BUT UPON PROBABLE CAUSE, SUPPORTED BY OATH OR AFFIRMATION, AND PARTICULARLY DESCRIBING THE PLACE TO BE SEARCHED, AND THE PERSONS OR THINGS TO BE SEIZED. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION 4TH AMENDMENT. **The Fifth prohibition against seizure of property without due process is gone; NO PERSON SHALL BE HELD TO ANSWER FOR A CAPITAL, OR OTHERWISE INFAMOUS CRIME, UNLESS ON A PRESENTMENT OR INDICTMENT OF A GRAND JURY, EXCEPT IN CASES ARISING IN THE LAND OR NAVAL FORCES, OR IN THE MILITIA, WHEN IN ACTUAL SERVICE IN TIME OF WAR OR PUBLIC DANGER; NOR SHALL ANY PERSON BE SUBJECT FOR THE SAME OFFENCE TO BE TWICE PUT IN JEOPARDY OF LIFE OR LIMB; NOR SHALL BE COMPELLED IN ANY CRIMINAL CASE TO BE A WITNESS AGAINST HIMSELF, NOR BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE, LIBERTY, OR PROPERTY, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW; NOR SHALL PRIVATE PROPERTY BE TAKEN FOR PUBLIC USE, WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION 5TH AMENDMENT. **As with the war on drugs, property can be seized be executive order; people, even citizens, can be declared or defined terrorist by executive order; **Organizations, including Citizens, can be declared terrorist or terrorist linked by executive order and have their assets seized and membership list confiscated. **Secret courts disburse secret search warrants, people are charged with secret evidence which even their lawyers can not see and are unable to confront or challenge their accusers. All of the above was actually legal prior to 911 but will now enter mainstream. IN ALL CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS, THE ACCUSED SHALL ENJOY THE RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL, BY AN IMPARTIAL JURY OF THE STATE AND DISTRICT WHEREIN THE CRIME SHALL HAVE BEEN COMMITTED, WHICH DISTRICT SHALL HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY ASCERTAINED BY LAW, AND TO BE INFORMED OF THE NATURE AND CAUSE OF THE ACCUSATION; TO BE CONFRONTED WITH THE WITNESSES AGAINST HIM; TO HAVE COMPULSORY PROCESS FOR OBTAINING WITNESSES IN HIS FAVOR, AND TO HAVE THE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL FOR HIS DEFENSE. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION 6TH AMENDMENT. Open permission to kill has been given to intelligence agencies (Death squads organized, financed and run by the US Gov). Who will decide which of the enemies of the US GOV is beyond the pale and need to be exterminated, how long before this horror strikes home as US Government certainly has many opponents both presumed and real both at home and abroad? One of the internees died with an alleged heart attack. When his body was autopsied in
[CTRL] 22 February 2002 Federalist Edition #02-08
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! THE FEDERALIST(r) DIGEST The Conservative e-Journal of Record * Veritas Vos Liberabit * 22 February 2002 Federalist Edition #02-08 Friday Digest *To support The Federalist, Link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp *To sponsor an edition of The Federalist, Link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/sponsor.asp *To retrieve today's Digest as HTML printer-friendly text or PDF Link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/current2002.asp *To change your e-mail address or format, see instructions in footer. CONTENTS: The Foundation Federalist Perspective __O__ THE FOUNDATION It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor. --George Washington __O__ FEDERALIST PERSPECTIVE Top of the fold... President George W. Bush traveled to Asia this week, visiting Japan, South Korea, and Red China, and noting, All three governments are lending their support in our war against terror. ...[And I] thank them on behalf of a grateful nation, for their steady and strong support as this nation leads a coalition to defend freedom. Japan may be experiencing mere economic discomforts and dislocations, but freedom is still threatened in large areas of that region. At his last stop on the tour, Mr. Bush chose to concentrate on areas of agreement with the Chinese Communists and his best hopes for further agreements, saying, I encourage China to be a force for peace among its neighbors. My government hopes that China will strongly oppose the proliferation of missile and other deadly technologies. Mr. Bush reminded that no nation is exempt from the demands of human dignity, and he pointedly included mention of where freedom is lacking for the Chinese people, who should be free to choose how they live, how they worship and how they work. Mr. Bush added: For centuries, this country had a tradition of religious tolerance. My prayer is that all persecution will end, so that all in China are free to gather and worship as they wish. Faith points to a moral law beyond man's law and calls us to duties higher than material gain. Freedom of religion is not something to be feared, it's to be welcomed, because faith gives us a moral core and teaches us to hold ourselves to high standards, to love and to serve others, and to live responsible lives. America is a nation guided by faith. And President Bush peered into one dark hole of the axis of evil across the demilitarized zone separating our ally South Korea from Communist North Korea, saying similarly that no nation should be a prison for its own people. Repeating his characterization of North Korea as evil, Mr. Bush commented on its museum holding axes used to murder non-Communists, and its disordered priorities: Korean grandparents should be free to spend their final years with those they love. Korean children should never starve while a massive army is fed. In the second black hole of the axis of evil, Iran has continued meddling across the border in Afghanistan, attempting to destabilize the interim government before it can truly free the Afghan people. Intelligence reports count scores of infiltrators, including agents from the Ministry of Intelligence and Security, the Iranian spy service, and Iranian special forces troops from the Revolutionary Guards Corps. One U.S. official described them thus: They are armed to the teeth, and they have lots of money to buy people off. Expect this dangerous situation to persist, as Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi disingenuously said, We are determined to remain in Afghanistan as long as the government and the people want us to do so. No wonder suspended bombing runs had to recommence over Afghanistan last weekend to protect our fighters! And little surprise, then, that interim Afghan leader Hamid Karzai now asserts that the tourism minister murdered last week, Dr. Abdul Rahman, was in reality assassinated by opponents mingling with hajjis en route to Muslim pilgrim sites! Similar destabilization moves have been undertaken against Pakistan, of course. We note with sadness confirmation that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl has been murdered by his kidnappers -- as part of such actions. Pearl's abductors have stated they killed him because he was a Jew and was pro-Israel. Our prayers go out to his wife, child, family and friends. And rounding out the trio of the axis of evil, Saddam is next up. Asked Thursday about plans to take out any identified weapons of mass destruction facilities in Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld replied, We certainly wouldn't discuss it in a press conference. As reported in The Federalist last week, and in the rest of the national media this week, The Pentagon and CIA are currently filling in final mobilization details
Re: [CTRL] General Responses
-Caveat Lector- From: Man on the Run As far as the stratues that Ashcroft covered, I honestly have not seen them and perhaps they are "art" and not pornography Are you suggesting that the Department of Justice has been hosting pornographic statues for decades? What exactly IS your definition of 'pornography'? Are you like Colleen, and believe every representation of a nude human body is somehow 'nasty'? Are you one of those people who think fig leaves should be put on all the genitalia of ancient sculptures in museums? but I would say that, even if so, it is best not to broadcast them on prime time in the context given. What, pray tell, exactly IS 'in the context given'? What do you feel would be wrong with people, even the little kiddies, seeing a naked female breast on a piece of marble art in the background? And if it IS so objectionable, why not just have Ashcroft face a different direction, or choose another area of the DoJ building altogether, rather than spend thousands of taxpayers' dollars to cover a piece of art which was paid for with taxpayers' dollars and has been there for decades? It is subjective, but remember that we are not talking about censorship Sure we are; the decision to have the statue covered IS censorship, plain and simple. but a decision that Ashcroft has made with his personal space. Please justify your contention that the DoJ building, built and maintained with taxpayers' funds, has somehow become Ashcroft's PERSONAL SPACE? We are talking about a context where I think that female or male nudity is not appropriate. Do a little research...the representations of both Justice and of Liberty/Columbia in art have usually been of bare-breasted women, going back hundreds of years. Do you really believe that the Department of Justice is where you want to appreciate the joy of the human body? Ylgghhh... I think anywhere is appropriate to appreciate the BEAUTY of the human body, and that the naked human body is not something to be ashamed of... Outright pornography is exactly what I said it was. I stand by what I said. Then you prove how ignorant you are, if you believe all nudity is pornographic... If you do not believe that violent and vulgar exploitation of the human body Please explain to us what exactly is 'vulgar' and especially what is 'violent' in the representation of Justice that Ashcroft had covered and denial of women's rights Please explain to me how that statue in the DoJ building denies me my rights June www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Goebbels in Red White Blue
-Caveat Lector- From http://supplysideinvestor.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=1866 }}}Begin Memo on the Margin February 21, 2002 Send to a Colleague A DR. GOEBBELS IN RED, WHITE AND BLUE Memo To: The Fourth Estate Editors From: Jude Wanniski Re: The Office of Strategic Influence The lead story in the Tuesday, February 19 NYTimes was headlined: PENTAGON READIES EFFORTS TO SWAY SENTIMENT ABROAD, and as I read it I first wondered if it were some kind of joke. The subhead read: New Office Proposes to Send News or Maybe False News to Even Friendly Lands. What it comes down to is the Pentagon is cranking up something called the Office of Strategic Influence, which will have as its mission the manipulation of public opinion in foreign lands in ways that will win support for our war on terrorism. The story makes no attempt to disguise the fact that manipulation is at the core of the mission. Unlike the Voice of America or Radio Marti broadcasts to Cuba, which have been kept scrupulously objective in presenting news, the OSI intends to feed disinformation into the global population in ways that will lead the people of the world to do what Uncle Sam would like them to do. Disinformation is a nice word for falsehoods, and when applied to official government falsehoods, the dictionary word is propaganda. As I read on, I soon realized that this is the brainchild of Richard Perle, the chairman of the Defense Policy Board, whose underling, Paul Wolfowitz, serves President George W. Bush as Deputy Secretary of Defense. Perle is a world class propagandist and absolute master of the Big Lie. Ive written in this space before that Perle, who I have known since 1969 when his skills helped win the Cold War, will not be happy until he makes the world safe for an American Imperium, no matter how that objective is achieved. At the top of his list of things to do is to crank up a war with Iraq, to rid the earth of Saddam Hussein. It remains a personal affront to him and his henchman Wolfowitz that the first President Bush was talked out of destroying Baghdad in 1991, when he should have had our troops march to Iraqs capital in order to kill Saddam. Perle has an uncanny ability to cloud mens minds, like the Shadow of yore, and over the years he has not only clouded the mind of Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld, but also of a great many world leaders. Perle loves not only war, but war against small countries that can be easily squashed by Americas military might. He has a long list in his pocket of those he proposes to squash after he takes care of Iraq. I, of course, knew there would be some editorial commentary on plans for this Orwellian Office of Strategic Propaganda (OSP) and I thought the NYTimes would lead the way in denouncing the idea in no uncertain terms. When I turned to the op- ed page Wednesday morning, I found a secondary editorial that said the idea of such an agency was not very nice and maybe it should not be done. Thats it folks. In rolling over so quietly, the NYT must be part of the plot. I knew The Wall Street Journal would not say a word about it, as the editorial page has been taking orders from Richard Perle ever since his father-in-law, Albert Wohlstetter, died four years ago. Wohlstetter was the behind- the-scenes genius who masterminded nuclear strategy against the Soviet Union, and Perle was his Minister of Deception. Perle inherited Alberts vast private network of agents, a network that includes former British Prime Minister Maggie Thatcher. The idea of an Office of Strategic Influence can only have come from Perle and its only purpose would be to foment the casus belli which would prove to the world that it should join the Coalition to Bring Down Saddam. I note the Times story says Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, while broadly supportive of the new office, has not approved its specific proposals and has asked the Pentagons top lawyer, William J. Haynes, to review them, senior Pentagon officials said. Of course, Lawyer Haynes has had his mind clouded too, and has no idea of the evil intent behind this black operation. The Times reports a senior Pentagon official saying, It goes from the blackest of the black to the whitest of the white. Feeling the heat of widespread alarm and criticism within the foreign policy establishment over the OSI mission, Sec. Rumsfeld now gives assurances that the DOD will tell the American people and the people of the world the truth. But then, why is there still a need for the OSI? Certainly the Pentagon does not need a second press office, but as long as the OSI remains, the probability for deliberate lies and disinformation is high. If you do not believe me, way down in its story the Times says: To help the new office, the Pentagon has hired the Rendon Group, a Washington-based international consulting firm run by John W. Rendon Jr., a former campaign aide to President Jimmy Carter. The firm, which is being paid about
[CTRL] Iraq Calls Bush's Bluff
-Caveat Lector- http://commondreams.org/views02/0210-05.htm Saturday, February 23, 2002 Published on Sunday, February 10, 2002 in the Los Angeles Times Iraq Calls Bush's Bluff on Weapons Scrutiny by Scott Ritter The past week has seen an unprecedented diplomatic offensive on the part of Iraq. This appears to be driven by the harsh rhetoric emanating from the Bush administration since the president's identification of Iraq as an integral part of an axis of evil. Whether or not Iraq is sincere, Baghdad's burst of diplomacy appears to be designed to derail a drive for war from within the Bush administration that has been gaining momentum at a startling rate. Iraq has dispatched representatives to Europe, Russia, China and the Arab world to distance itself from President Bush's characterization of it as evil and to discourage the war-like undertones of such a label. These efforts have borne instant fruit. The axis of evil formulation has been criticized in almost every corner of the world as ill- conceived and counterproductive. There was, however, one issue that caused trouble for Iraq: the return of United Nations weapons inspectors. The focus by Bush on the matter of weapons inspections prior to his State of the Union address resonated in many capitals around the globe, even those sympathetic to Iraq or overtly opposed to renewed military conflict. The ambiguities that exist concerning Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs are troubling. The shadow cast by Sept. 11, combined with the specter of weapons of mass destruction, made the issue of the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq suddenly relevant. Russia, China and Turkey all have urged Baghdad to allow the inspectors back to work. Iraq was cool to these overtures until, in a stunning recent reversal, Baghdad communicated to the U.N. secretary general its willingness to engage in discussions on the matter. In so doing, Iraq has exposed the Achilles' heel of Washington's policy: Is the U.S. truly serious about weapons inspections? While Iraq has stated that it has set no preconditions for any discussions regarding inspectors, it is widely recognized in the United Nations that the issue of economic sanctions is firmly linked to weapons inspections. Any discussion of sanctions is the last thing the Bush administration would want. Economic sanctions have been the cornerstone of a policy of containment pursued by three consecutive administrations. Sanctions are essential to Bush's plan to destabilize and eventually overthrow Saddam Hussein. The resumption of serious weapons inspections would, by their very nature, open the door for the eventual lifting of the sanctions, which in turn would signal an end of containment. This could mean the de facto recognition that Hussein would retain power. Such a process certainly flies in the face of the strong language of confrontation coming from such proponents of the Hussein regime's removal as Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Sens. Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Joe Biden. The Iraqi diplomatic offensive has thrown the administration into a quandary. Although the Iraqi offer was given short shrift by Secretary of State Colin Powell, the machinery of international diplomacy has been actively engaged and will prove hard to stop. By showing a willingness to discuss the issue of inspectors, Iraq has trumped those who have maintained that Hussein would never permit their return. Baghdad now has raised the question as to whether U.S. support for inspectors has been merely rhetorical, a verbal foil designed to support the primary policy objective of removing Hussein from power. How the Bush administration answers this new challenge will do much to shape the nature of any global support for future actions against Hussein. Scott Ritter, a former U.N. weapons inspector, is the author of Endgame: Solving the Iraqi Problem, Once and For All (Simon Schuster, 1999). Copyright 2002 Los Angeles Times ### Share This Article With Your Friends FAIR USE NOTICE This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/ uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Common Dreams NewsCenter A non-profit
[CTRL] Anthrax scare at Fort McPherson
-Caveat Lector- http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/0202/0223fortmac.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Anthrax scare at Fort McPherson; 7 treated for possible exposure after package found Test results possible Saturday By RON MARTZ Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer Military and law enforcement officials hope to learn by noon today whether a suspicious substance found Friday evening at Fort McPherson in southwest Atlanta is anthrax. An initial field test of the powdery white material late Friday was positive for the deadly organism, according to Joe Handley, a spokesman for the U.S. Army Reserve Command headquarters at Fort McPherson. If confirmed, it would be the first positive anthrax discovery since Nov. 21, when a Connecticut woman died after being exposed to the bacterium. We are going to treat it as if anthrax is present, said Llelwyn Grant, a spokesman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Lisa Swenarski, a CDC spokeswoman, said the substance was taken to the agency's Atlanta labs for testing late Friday. Tests were to run through the night and the results given to the Department of Defense and the Fulton County Health Department, according to Swenarski. Grant said the specimens were packed in a bio-safety kit for transport to the CDC. Col. Guy Shields, chief of public affairs for Forces Command, which also is housed at the base, said that although the early tests for anthrax were positive, preliminary field testing is not that accurate. It errs on the side of caution. Sunny Sung/AJC A worker donned protective gear Friday night at Fort McPherson. -- -- Col. Dan Stoneking, a Pentagon spokesman, said the substance was discovered around 5:15 p.m. The powder was inside a package that apparently was delivered through the front door of the Army Reserve Command headquarters, said Bob Bolia, a spokesman for Fort McPherson. Bolia said he did not know who delivered the package or to whom it was addressed. We don't know how it got in there or what it is, Shields said. Shields said the package was found on the floor on the building's fourth floor, which contains the mail room. When the package was opened, it was found to contain a plastic sandwich-type bag with the suspicious powder, according to Handley. Shields said seven people, all civilians, came in contact with the suspicious package. Five are employed at Fort McPherson and the other two were first responders with the base fire department. They were decontaminated with showers in a tent-like structure in front of the building. They were allowed to go home around 9 p.m. but will be called back for treatment if the powder is found to be anthrax, Shields said. I've been told they're fine, he said. Shields said he did not think others came in contact with the powder. The military has tightened its mail screening procedures since last fall, when five people died after letters containing anthrax were mailed to media outlets and government offices in Florida, New York and Washington. It was not known late Friday whether the delivery and acceptance of the suspicious package at Fort McPherson was in keeping with current handling procedures. The building has a secure entry point, Shields said. Names of personnel allowed inside are kept on a roster and visitors must be accompanied by an escort to enter the building. The building where the package was found has been secured, but the base has not been locked down, Shields said. However, workers who are not considered essential have been turned away. Rapid response teams from Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta and the Georgia Emergency Management Agency were sent to the post. The teams specialize in dealing with weapons of mass destruction. The FBI also was at the base. A portion of the base was cordoned off by military police and about 200 of the nearly 1,000 civilian and military personnel who work in the Reserve Command building, one of the newest and largest on the base, were locked in until about 9 p.m. They were allowed to leave, but if test results come back positive, they may be asked to return to the base for decontamination and treatment. Handley said most of the military personnel in the building have been inoculated with the anthrax vaccine, but not the civilians. One person who was forced to wait said the anthrax scare put a damper on a retirement party for an Immigration and Naturalization Service employee, which was planned inside the base. Half the people couldn't get in, said Jerry Patton. Myrtle Merriwether was one of the cooks for the party. We all were ready to go, she said, when they heard news of the anthrax scare. Mike Bahus, a civilian who works on the base, said he waited inside the commisary at the bowling alley until he could leave. They weren't scared so much, but they were concerned
[CTRL] Gag Order As Corpse Count Nears 300
-Caveat Lector- http://c1.zedo.com/ads2/i/3853/172/152005813/0/i.html?e=i;s=114;d=1;z=0.603042 1528727178 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Gag Order As Corpse Count Nears 300 By Patricia M. LaHay Associated Press Writer Friday, February 22, 2002; 8:34 AM NOBLE, Ga. ââ A third site of dumped bodies was discovered near a crematory where hundreds of corpses have been found, a medical examiner said at a news conference before he was interrupted by a newly imposed gag order. Walker County District Attorney Buzz Franklin rushed into the news conference Thursday to distribute copies of the gag order just as Georgia state medical examiner Dr. Kris Sperry was talking about the discovery of more corpses at Tri-State Crematory. The order, obtained by defense attorney Ken Poston, covers virtually everyone involved in the case, including witnesses, officials and investigators. Before the order was delivered, Sperry said 283 bodies had been retrieved, and 54 of those had been identified. He was cut off before he had an opportunity to elaborate on the third site. After spending five days in jail, crematory operator Ray Brent Marsh was scheduled to appear in Magistrate Court at a bond hearing Friday afternoon. Marsh, 28, faces 16 counts of theft by deception for allegedly discarding hundreds of bodies instead of cremating them. More charges, including possible federal counts, are pending. State officials said recovering and identifying bodies and cleaning up the site could cost far more than the $10 million estimate given earlier this week. There's just no way to even guess at a cost until we stop finding bodies. And we're finding them everywhere, Georgia Emergency Management Director Gary McConnell said. The operation to recover human remains from pits, sheds, metal vaults and even a shallow lake near the crematory could take at least eight months, officials said. Investigators said they plan to drain the lake, where they have already found a skull and a torso, as soon as the rest of the 16-acre site has been searched. We've got to make sure there aren't any bodies (buried) downstream of the lake before we dump 100,000 gallons of water out, McConnell said. Georgia legislators who toured the crematory grounds Thursday said the scene was worse than they imagined. We saw the pits, we saw the bodies removed. It's indescribable, said Rep. Barbara Massey Reece of nearby Chattooga County. Rep. Chuck Sims, a funeral director, said he cannot fathom how someone could treat dead bodies with such disrespect. These people probably all died of natural causes, but now it's almost like a trauma death, Sims said. It's almost like they've been violated. Another visiting lawmaker, Rep. Mike Snow, said he's authored a new bill that would tighten licensing and inspection requirements for crematories, and another that would make it a felony to desecrate or abuse a human corpse. Snow, who represents the part of Walker County where Tri-State is located, introduced a bill in 1992 that would have exempted it from state inspection. That bill went nowhere, but in 1995 Snow managed to gain passage for a measure that gave Tri-State's owners a two-year reprieve from regulation. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
[CTRL] 'Ghost soldiers' inflate Guard numbers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/02/21/usat-guard.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! E-mails detail Indiana Guard 'ghosts' By Dave Moniz and Jim Drinkard, USA TODAY By Rob Goebel, The Indianapolis Star via AP Master Sgt. Robert Wyse is surrounded by his family after his court-martial Jan. 29 in Edinburgh, Ind. 'Ghost soldiers' inflate Guard numbers Misconduct marks Guard command WASHINGTON â Evidence continues to grow that National Guard units across the country are undermanned and have faked their troop level reports to Washington for years in order to protect their flow of federal money and to hide their inability to retain troops. The latest evidence was revealed in court documents introduced during a January military trial in Indiana. A series of e-mail messages from a senior Indiana National Guard officer details a longstanding practice of false troop reporting to the Pentagon and National Guard headquarters in Washington, D.C. The e-mails, from the top Army Guard personnel officer in the state headquarters, describe how senior National Guard officials in Indiana devised schemes to hide troop shortfalls. Indiana Guard officials state in the messages that they believe similar methods are practiced in other states. The e-mails were introduced by defense attorneys during the court-martial of Master Sgt. Robert Wyse, a Guard recruiter found guilty of forging physical exams for recruits. They outline a program in which Guard officials knowingly inflated data on the total number of Army Guard troops in the state. As many as 700 soldiers who had left the 12,000-member Indiana Guard were still being carried on the rolls, some for more than two years after they had left, the e-mails said. The Indiana case is the latest in a growing list of states alleged to have faked their Guard troop numbers. In December, USA TODAY reported allegations from more than 40 officers that at least seven states had inflated rolls with phony troops known as ghosts. Since then, a dozen Guard members from across the nation have contacted the newspaper alleging that commanders in their states have padded unit rosters with non-existent soldiers. Maj. Sara Hall, a spokeswoman for the Indiana National Guard, said officials in her state could not comment on the e-mails because they are part of an ongoing legal case. The author of the e-mails, Col. Kevin Samples, did not return telephone calls. A former National Guard officer who specializes in personnel issues described the e-mail messages as incriminating. If they were misreporting these numbers to a federal official, that's lying, says Dave McGinnis, who once tracked personnel issues for the National Guard's headquarters in Washington, D.C. Allegations of widespread troop inflation in Indiana were first reported last month in The Indianapolis Star newspaper. The total reported troop strength of the National Guard is 460,000. Each state's Guard reports to the governor, but the Guard receives more than 95% of its funding â about $13 billion last year â from the federal government. States that can't adequately staff Guard units risk losing the units and the federal money that comes with them. The December articles in USA TODAY reported allegations of ghost soldiers in Army National Guard units in Illinois, South Carolina, California, Arizona, Texas, Virginia and Wyoming. In some units, as many as 20% of the soldiers are troops who exist on paper only, according to Guard members and government investigators. In response to the articles, the chairman and ranking Democrat of the House Armed Services personnel subcommittee, Rep. John McHugh, R-N.Y., and Rep. Vic Snyder, D-Ark., have asked the Pentagon to investigate. The lawmakers said in a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that the allegations raise important questions about the readiness of the National Guard as the nation enters a challenging phase in the war on terrorism. The Pentagon has not responded to the request. The new allegations bring to nine the number of states, as well as the District of Columbia, where Army Guard soldiers have told the newspaper that individual units or senior officers have grossly misrepresented troop levels. Among the new allegations: A Hawaii National Guard officer says that as recently as September, a third of his 120-member infantry unit was made up of phantom soldiers. He says the state's senior officers condoned practices that misrepresented the Army Guard's troop levels. He did not want to be identified because he feared retaliation. Hawaii Guard officials say they don't believe the allegation. A Wyoming Army Guard officer says state commanders have devised a system to fool auditors and Pentagon officials about the state's troop levels. The officer, who did not want to be identified for fear of losing his job, says Wyoming Guard officials have periodically instructed soldiers on how to
[CTRL] CIA warns on seeds of new Afghan civil war
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/02/22/wafg22.xmlsSh eet=/news/2002/02/22/ixworld.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! CIA warns on seeds of new Afghan civil war By Ben Fenton in Washington (Filed: 22/02/2002) THE seeds of renewed civil war in Afghanistan have already been planted, the CIA said in a report made public yesterday. The analysis of an increasingly lawless situation backs Britain's view that more needs to be done to prop up the infant regime of Hamid Karzai as he tries to stabilise his country. With the CIA and the State Department both urging a greater effort by America and its allies to maintain peace, the White House is coming under pressure to launch a fresh peacekeeping initiative. The rest of the Bush administration, and in particular the Pentagon, has been reluctant to do anything more than it is already doing, except in pursuit of Osama bin Laden, his al-Qa'eda terrorist network and the Taliban. Intelligence analysis suggests that a return to the civil war that wracked the country after Soviet invaders were driven out in 1989 is not imminent. But the CIA has identified rising tensions between the Tajik and Uzbek ethnic groups in Afghanistan and areas of lawlessness where the influence of the central government has not been extended. The report says the agency is alarmed at how slowly progress is being made in setting up the national army and police force for Afghanistan. Civil war is not imminent but the seeds are there, a senior official of the intelligence agency said in an interview with the New York Times. The question that the CIA was facing was: What do we do in the meantime to deter war among the warlords? Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, said he did not know how the situation would develop, but was not obviously enthusiastic for an increase in peacekeeping forces beyond the 4,500-strong existing force, half of which is British and which is under British command. The Pentagon is known to have argued that it is not necessary to enlarge the peacekeeping force and would stretch already thin resources at a time when America is trying to fight terrorism on a global front. Mr Rumsfeld said it was a waste of time, money and effort to build up the International Security Assistance Force to 5,000 or even 20,000 when the same resources could be devoted to training and equipping an Afghan army. The State Department told the newspaper it was suggesting only that areas outside Kabul could be protected by an expanded international force, as Mr Karzai proposed to President Bush in a meeting in Washington last month. The Foreign Office supports this idea although the Ministry of Defence is far less enthusiastic, a division mirroring the current differences of opinion in the Bush administration. Britain's Armed Forces commanders are also concerned that they are being overstretched and do not want to be committed to sending more troops to Afghanistan. Mr Rumsfeld admitted that between 10 and 15 people killed in an American commando raid on Jan 23 were not al-Qa'eda or Taliban, as the Pentagon had claimed since the attack. But he defended the raid on the two compounds at Hazar Qadam, because he said all the deaths occurred after American special forces troops were fired on. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Global Warming: Socialisms Trojan Horse (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Yes, Bill, everyone should be free to pollute as much as they like. Just look at how well volunteer pollution controls have worked for Bush's Texas. And then there's Enron, a true example of your idea of 'free enterprise'. Steve On 22 Feb 02, at 12:12, William Bacon wrote: As we have seen over the past three decades, environmentalists have succeeded in eroding property rights in the United States in order to protect Mother Earth as they see fit (i.e. through the Clean Water Act, through the Endangered Species Act, through ridiculous wetlands legislation, through air quality laws, etc). Whether or not President Bush understands this, the real struggle is between liberty and totalitarianism. For if environmentalists succeed in gradually taking away our private property rights, then a free market and liberty cannot exist. Thus, it is my contention that the struggle against environmentalism is actually a struggle for liberty (using the classical liberal definition). In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GLOBAL WARMING OR GLOBALONEY? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I guess the majority of climatologists are wrong about global warming? Perhaps they are not as politically biased as Mr. Bacon and his oil company allies. Steve On 22 Feb 02, at 11:57, William Bacon wrote: If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day 1970. In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Carter Rips Bush on 'Axis' Label
-Caveat Lector- Go Carter Go, Insert foot in mouth, you didn't do it enough during your presidency! -- Bill WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Carter Rips Bush on 'Axis' Label The Associated Press Thursday, February 21, 2002; 8:53 PM ATLANTA ââ Former President Jimmy Carter on Thursday criticized President Bush's labeling three countries an axis of evil, saying the statement was overly simplistic and counterproductive. Carter said Bush's statement seriously jeopardized progress made with North Korea, Iran and Iraq in recent years. I think it will take years before we can repair the damage done by that statement, said Carter, speaking at an Emory University conference on the impact of terrorism. Carter also said the growing gap between the rich and the poor continues to be the world's greatest challenge, although he noted that many terrorists falsely claim to be among the world's destitute. We are very concerned now about terrorism. Osama bin Laden is not poor, he's very rich â and the people who committed those horrible acts on Sept. 11 were not poor, he said. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chinese leader lost for words as he meets press
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-215020,00.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! February 22, 2002 Chinese leader lost for words as he meets press From Oliver August in Beijing CHINAâS President yesterday gave a baffling performance in front of hundreds of journalists that made his often tongue-tied American counterpart look eloquent by comparison. President Jiang Zemin stood in front of the assembled foreign and local journalists, whom he had formally invited to Beijingâs Great Hall of the People for a âjoint meetingâ with President George Bush, and refused to answer all their questions. Seeking guidance from his press secretary, Mr Jiang simply pretended, live on national television, that he had not heard two separate questions about imprisoned Catholic bishops and religious freedom. Chinese audiences, whether journalists, party members or peasants, are never allowed to ask the President a spontaneous question. Everything is screened and vetted. So when Mr Jiang came face-to-face with the unruly White House press, he chose to answer only the questions posed by the reporters of the loyal Chinese state media. And while Mr Bush improvised, Mr Jiang read out his scripted answers. The audience laughed and snorted â sheer heresy in the pantheon of Chinese communism. The ornate Great Hall of the People, built by Mao Zedong on the edge of Tiananmen Square, is the venue for elaborately staged Chinese political theatre, not an arena for verbal jousting. Some 25 minutes after Mr Jiang had ignored questions from non-Chinese journalists, he changed tack, seemingly aware of the consternation he had caused. He turned to Mr Bush and said in English: âYou are much better at this.â In his 13 years as a member of the politburo, Mr Jiang has given only a handful of press conferences, usually on foreign soil. He said: âNow I will answer the questions of the American reporters,â and launched into an unprompted admission that he had read the Bible as well as other religious texts. Rather implausibly, he also claimed to have no influence over who is imprisoned in China and why. Shortly before Mr Jiang finally addressed the question of religious freedom, the television lights in the Great Hall of the People dimmed. Kremlinologists wondered whether the live transmission on Chinese state television had been cut, allowing Mr Jiang to answer the question without losing face in front of a domestic audience. Last night, staff at China Central Television insisted the transmission had not been cut. Asked when they would next have the chance to show a Jiang press conference live, they refused to answer. Just like their President. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Robertson Calls Islam a Religion of Violence, Mayhem
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49436-2002Feb21.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Robertson Calls Islam a Religion of Violence, Mayhem Find Post Stories by Topic: InvestigationRetaliationWashingtonNew YorkBusinessHuman TollBioterrorismEditorialsColumnistsFull Archive___ --or-- Search Story Archive by Keyword: Advanced Search ⢠Subscribe to Daily Newsletter _Top Stories_ ⢠Afghan Factions Test U.S. Forces (The Washington Post, Feb 21, 2002) ⢠Spy Planes Seek Out Philippine Guerrillas (The Washington Post, Feb 21, 2002) ⢠Afghan Government Backs Off Conspiracy Charge in Airport Killing (The Washington Post, Feb 21, 2002) ⢠Full Coverage _Online Extras_ Photo Galleries ⢠Northern Lights ⢠2002 Winter Olympics ⢠10 Days in September ⢠Best of Post 2001 Live Online Discussions ⢠2/14: Former CIA Director James Woolsey ⢠Upcoming Discussions ⢠America at War Transcripts Guides ⢠Philippines and Terrorism ⢠Somalia and the War on Terrorism ⢠Understanding Pakistan ⢠India and the War on Terrorism Background ⢠Multimedia Features ⢠America at War: News Graphics ⢠America at War: Transcripts E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Version Subscribe to The Post By Alan Cooperman Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, February 22, 2002; Page A02 Television evangelist Pat Robertson yesterday described Islam as a violent religion bent on world domination, drawing immediate protests from American Muslims. Robertson, one of the most powerful figures on the religious right, made the remarks on his Christian Broadcasting Network's 700 Club. In mid-September, he and fellow evangelist Jerry Falwell sparked controversy by suggesting on the same show that abortionists, feminists, gays and liberal groups were partly responsible for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. After a segment yesterday on the political views of Muslims in America, the announcer, Lee Webb, turned to Robertson and asked: As for the Muslim immigrants, Pat, it makes you wonder, if they have such contempt for our foreign policy why they'd even want to live here? Well, as missionaries possibly to spread the doctrine of Islam, Robertson answered. But, ladies and gentlemen, I have taken issue with our esteemed president in regard to his stand in saying Islam is a peaceful religion. It's just not. And the Koran makes it very clear, if you see an infidel, you are to kill him. Robertson added that the fact is that our immigration policies are now so skewed to the Middle East and away from Europe that we have introduced these people into our midst and undoubtedly there are terrorist cells all over them. Islam, he concluded, is not a peaceful religion that wants to coexist. They want to coexist until they can control, dominate and then if need be destroy. Hussein Ibish, communications director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, called Robertson's remarks truly outrageous. We know the word for this. This is called anti-Semitism, Ibish said. . . . It's a resurgent anti-Semitism with the word 'Muslims' instead of the word 'Jews.' *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] China missile sale
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20020222-2416724.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Inside the Ring Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough Notes from the Pentagon. China missile sale China's military delivered a shipment of naval anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, according to U.S. intelligence officials. The missile shipment took place in January and is a sign Beijing continues to be a major supplier to states President Bush identified as an axis of evil. The missiles were identified as HQ-7 surface-to-air missiles with a range of up to 8 nautical miles. The missile is a reverse-engineered version of France's Crotale missile system. It travels at twice the speed of sound. It includes advanced guidance and control systems, including infrared and television tracking. The missile sale did not violate China's 1998 pledge made to the United States that it would halt sales of C-801 and C-802 anti-ship cruise missiles to Iran. China's missile sales to Pakistan were raised in talks in Beijing between U.S. and Chinese officials as part of the summit between President Bush and Chinese President Jiang Zemin. No agreement was reached on curbing Chinese arms sales at the talks. The Chinese have not followed through with a pledge to impose new export controls on its state-run arms makers. The Bush administration imposed sanctions on China twice in the past six months for sales of missile goods to Pakistan, and chemical and biological weapons components to Iran. A CIA report made public last month stated: China is a primary supplier of advanced conventional weapons to Pakistan and Iran, among others. Supplemental The Pentagon and the White House budget office this week are negotiating the size of a current-year emergency-spending bill to pay for the ongoing war on terrorism. The Pentagon had drawn up requests for $20 billion. It has now whittled the package down to $16 billion. But the White House does not want to exceed $10 billion, defense sources say, to keep the projected deficit as small as possible. President Bush is proposing to fund next year's emergency defense bill upfront in the pending fiscal 2003 Pentagon budget. But Capitol Hill sources say it is unlikely lawmakers will give the Pentagon a blank check. Instead, the money will be earmarked for big-ticket items, such as ships and aircraft. Shipbuilding advocates want part of that $10 billion to fund three new ships: a destroyer, an amphibious assault ship and a Virginia-class submarine. Team player Administration sources say the most intense opposition to President Bush's axis of evil speech didn't come from overseas. It came from career diplomats inside his own State Department. Insiders say the opposition was so widespread Secretary of State Colin L. Powell had to put out the word to his employees to be team players. Mr. Powell himself has become more of a team player in recent weeks when it comes to policy against Iraq. In a National Security Council dominated by hawks like Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Mr. Powell was a lone voice of restraint. He once disputed in public the views of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, an ardent hawk on Iraq. Taiwan diesel subs The Bush administration in April promised to sell Taiwan up to eight diesel submarines to bolster the island's coastal defenses against a major Chinese naval and missile buildup. Almost a year later, the Pentagon is still figuring out how to do it. The United States last built a diesel-electric submarine in 1958. Efforts to build the submarines with a design or hull produced by other nations also have not panned out, because of pressure from Beijing to block the sales. Now word has reached us that there is opposition to the submarine deal from an unlikely source: the U.S. Navy. Submariners are quietly lobbying against opening production of diesel submarines. They fear that once the Pentagon gets back into the diesel-submarine business, it will make it harder to get Congress to fund construction of big-ticket nuclear-powered submarines. The Navy is very, very nervous, said one person close to the Pentagon. The reason is simple. The Navy can build four very quiet diesel-electric submarines for the cost of one new Virginia-class submarine. Another option being considered for the Taiwan submarine deal is to refurbish old diesel submarines with new equipment, although that option is not favored by Taipei. Taiwan is said to favor building diesel submarines with U.S. help and eventually building its own. Talks on the Taiwan submarine deal are set for next month. Visiting hours The Pentagon has settled on strict visitation rules for the 300 or so al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners being held at the U.S. Naval Base, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Visitors
[CTRL] Taipei approves of Bush China visit
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26579 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Taipei approves of Bush China visit Officials say island's interests not compromised by trip -- -- Posted: February 23, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Jon Dougherty © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Taiwan's government has said it approves of President Bush's visit with Chinese President Jiang Zemin, noting that Washington and Beijing remained far apart on issues important to Taipei. President Bush's remarks so far have not sacrificed the interests of Taiwan, said Eugene Chien, Taiwan's foreign affairs minister. Although both reached a consensus on certain issues, they remained far apart on other issues, including the issue of Taiwan. His comments, as well as those of other Taiwanese government officials, were carried by various Taiwan newspapers, including the Taipei Times. Bush flew home yesterday following a six-day Asian tour that included visits to South Korea, Japan and China. In a joint press conference following meetings with the Chinese leader, Bush and Jiang both hoped for a peaceful resolution to the cross-strait tension that has marked Taiwan-China relations for years. We believe in the peaceful settlement of this issue, Bush said. But overall, Taiwanese leaders said Bush remained committed to the terms of the Taiwan Relations Act, which contains a U.S. pledge of military support to Taiwan should it fall under attack, as well as a commitment to supply Taiwan with up-to-date military technology. The United States will continue to support the Taiwan Relations Act, Bush added. All the world's people, including the people of China, should be free to choose how to live, worship and how to work. Taiwanese officials said they understood Washington's need to improve relations with Beijing, as long as relations with Taipei didn't suffer. While relations between the U.S. and China are expected to get better, it's also our hope that U.S.-Taiwan relations can advance in parallel, Chien said. -- -- Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily, and author of the special report, *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AF News 22 Feb 02
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 0286. Power pro brings base to life by Master Sgt. Tim Helton 376th Air Expeditionary Wing Public Affairs OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (AFPN) -- The smooth hum of an engine in the silence of night marks the start of warm showers, hot food and electricity in the tents at a deployed location where people are supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. The driving force behind this power is the 376th Air Expeditionary Wing Civil Engineering Squadron power production shop. The shop is made up of people from around the United States. Power is the lifeblood of the camp infrastructure. Heat, lights, food preparation, communications...all run on power, said Lt. Col. Kevin Rumsey, 376th AEW CES commander. Without power production folks, power could not be maintained. The main power comes from a single 750-kilowatt generator located in the power plant, with several smaller generators located throughout the base. The Army's 249th Engineer Battalion from Fort Lewis in Washington, and the 376 AEW CES keep the power flowing. Our job is to install, maintain and replace all the power generators here, said Staff Sgt. Johnny Anderson, 376th AEW CES power production craftsman. We produce the juice for base personnel to do the mission and enjoy some of the comforts of home. Maintaining the power source while deployed in a foreign country is not always easy, said Anderson. The power production shop must overcome several obstacles while maintaining the generators. The hardest thing here is getting supplies and replacement parts to keep our power sources running, he said. It takes the flexibility, experience and expertise of the folks in our shop to ensure the job gets done. The 14 people assigned respond to any and all problems associated with powering the base. We have a great bunch of guys working here, Anderson said. All different walks of life; reserves, active-duty airman and NCOs; we are all dedicated to doing what it takes to keep power to this base. 0283. 579 selected for colonel RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- The Calendar 2002 central line, chaplain, judge advocate general, medical service corps, biomedical sciences corps, and nurse corps colonel board selected 579 officers for promotion to colonel. Personnel officials announced the promotion list Feb. 21. The entire list will be posted on the Air Force Personnel Center's Web site at http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil by Feb. 23. The colonel's board convened here Dec. 3 to 7 to consider 4,717 lieutenant colonels for promotion. The results of the board are: Selection statistics for in-the-promotion zone for colonel: -- Line: 432 officers selected from 927 considered for a 46.6 percent select rate; -- Chaplain: Seven officers selected from 17 considered for a 41.2 percent select rate; -- Judge advocate general: 14 officers selected from 28 considered for a 50 percent select rate; -- Nurse corps: 11 officers selected from 33 considered for 33.3 percent select rate; -- Medical services corps: 17 officers selected from 34 considered for 50 percent select rate; and -- Biomedical sciences corps: 13 officers selected from 26 considered for a 50 percent select rate. Selection statistics for above-the-promotion zone for colonel: -- Line: Two officers selected from 980 considered for a 0.2 percent select rate; -- Chaplain: No officers selected from 35 considered; -- Judge advocate general: One officer selected from 48 considered for a 2.1 percent select rate; -- Nurse corps: Two officers selected from 48 considered for 4.2 percent select rate; -- Medical service corps: One officer selected from 22 considered for 4.5 percent select rate; and -- Biomedical sciences corps: No officers selected from 39 considered. Selection statistics for below-the-promotion zone for colonel: -- Line: 76 officers selected from 2,157 considered for a 3.5 percent select rate; -- Chaplain: No officers selected; -- Judge advocate general: One officer selected from 71 considered for a 1.4 percent select rate; -- Nurse corps: One officer selected from 117 considered for 0.9 percent select rate; -- Medical service corps: One officer selected from 59 considered for 1.7 percent select rate; and -- Biomedical sciences corps: No officers selected from 76 considered. (Courtesy of AFPC News Service) 0287. Ops tempo picks up at Rhein-Main by Master Sgt. Louis A. Arana-Barradas Air Force Print News RHEIN-MAIN AIR BASE, Germany -- The start of Operation Enduring Freedom has turned this once quiet base into the bustling hub of the Air Force airlift into Afghanistan. Since November the base just outside Frankfurt -- due to close in late 2005 -- has had a huge surge in its work and operations tempo. That has forced the base to put some of its closure plans on the back burner. Scores of C-5 Galaxy and C-17 Globemaster III transports crowd the base's
[CTRL] Assault rifles for Annan guards investigated
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! http://asp.washtimes.com/printarticle.asp?action=printArticleID=20020221-1472 9320 Assault rifles for Annan guards investigated Stewart Stogel SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published 2/21/2002 NEW YORK â The U.S. government is investigating whether the United Nations illegally imported and issued paramilitary assault rifles to Secretary-General Kofi Annan's security detail. Sources in the U.N. Security and Safety Service say that the members of Mr. Annan's personal protective detail have been using the German-made MP5 submachine guns since 1998, despite an apparent failure to obtain U.S. clearance for their use. U.N. officials say that the use of the highly restricted firearm has been cleared with U.S. authorities. But Mike Campbell, a spokesman for the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, confirmed in an interview that an inquiry into the U.N. personnel's use of the weapon was initiated two weeks ago. The dispute is made even more sensitive by the fact that Mr. Annan himself led a U.N. effort last summer to stem the production and sale of small arms around the world, an effort that drew criticism from U.S. gun-ownership groups and from the Bush administration. There is no single tool of conflict so widespread, so easily available and so difficult to restrict as small arms, Mr. Annan told a special meeting of the Security Council in July. The MP5, described by its German manufacturer Heckler and Koch GmbH as a paramilitary assault rifle commonly used by police SWAT squads, is just one of several varieties of assault weapons currently in the possession of the United Nations, said one U.N. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. America's use of the MP5 is normally limited to law-enforcement organizations, Mr. Campbell said. Importation of the submachine gun is tightly controlled, he said. The United States does not consider the U.N. security service a law-enforcement organization and thus deems it ineligible to possess weapons such as the MP5, according to a State Department official. If the United Nations had applied for permission to obtain these guns, most likely it would have been rejected again, said the official, who requested anonymity. The State Department official said the United Nations first approached the U.S. government for permission to purchase the MP5 in early 1998 and was refused. Just how Mr. Annan's security detail obtained the weapons is the focus of the U.S. government probe. Michael McCann, who has directed U.N. security operations since 1994, refused to comment on the issue, but U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard denied any wrongdoing. Mr. Eckhard said he had checked with the security service and was told that all the necessary licenses for the weapons carried by U.N. personnel had been obtained. I flatly reject the notion any laws have been broken, he said. An American citizen and a veteran of the New York Police Department, Mr. McCann has been a frequent target of criticism by both U.N. diplomats and staff over security at the New York site. On September 11, it took hours to evacuate the U.N. headquarters after the plane attacks on the World Trade Center; employees at the Twin Towers were evacuated in 45 minutes. Several staffers described the evacuation process as mass confusion. Umberto Ravalico, Mr. McCann's predecessor, rejected the use of the MP5 guns. U.N. sources said that Mr. Ravalico felt they were too dangerous for use within New York City. Although the United States cannot control the use of such weapons inside the U.N. compound, U.S. laws do apply if the weapons are carried outside. Documents obtained by The Washington Times indicate that U.N. submachine guns frequently leave U.N. headquarters, accompanying Mr. Annan on trips around the New York area and for use in target-practice sessions for U.N. officers at a shooting range on Long Island. A U.N. document on training standards for security officers appears to note the sensitivity of taking the MP5 outside the U.N. headquarters building. For the twice-yearly proficiency tests required for security officers, the officers and the weapons are transported to the range in a vehicle provided by the U.N. security service. If officers travel to the range on their own, they cannot bring their firearm with them. Under no circumstances should a United Nations weapon be transported in a private vehicle, according to a U.N. instruction sheet titled Qualification on the Service MP5. The passage is highlighted in bold-face type. Conventions on diplomatic immunity do not apply to weapons possession. A survey of the United Nations' five permanent Security Council members â the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia â found that only U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte
[CTRL] Bush lectures China on American values
-Caveat Lector- http://www.smh.com.au/news/0202/23/world/world6.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Bush lectures China on American values By John Schauble in Beijing President George Bush, frustrated in his attempts to secure a Chinese commitment on missile non-proliferation, used a speech to Beijing students yesterday to deliver a sermon on the need for religious freedom in China. But students at Tsinghua University seemed more interested in learning why the United States continued to refer to peaceful resolution rather than acknowledging China's goal of reunification with Taiwan. Freedom of religion is not something to be feared, Mr Bush said in a speech televised nationally with translation. It's to be welcomed, because faith gives us a moral core and teaches us to hold ourselves to high standards, to love and to serve others, and to live responsible lives. He spoke of his own deep personal religious faith and said he prayed for an end to religious persecution in China. His comments to a hand-picked audience were pointed after President Jiang Zemin had ducked questions on Thursday about the persecution of Catholic clergy in China. Whatever religion people believe in, they have to abide by the law. So some of the law-breakers have been detained because of their violation of law, not because of their religious beliefs, Mr Jiang, who said he had no religious faith, told a joint news conference. In a wide-ranging speech on American values, Mr Bush talked about the importance of democracy, family values, education and freedom of choice. He also reiterated that the US had an obligation to defend Taiwan if it was attacked. When my country makes an agreement we stick with it, he declared. But he said the US wanted a peaceful resolution to the Taiwan question. We've also sent the same message that there should be no provocation by either party, rather peaceful dialogue, he said. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russia's influence in Balkans growing
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26576 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Russia's influence in Balkans growing Macedonia seeks counter-insurgency techniques uses in Chechnya -- -- Posted: February 23, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Toby Westerman © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Despite intense efforts by the European Union and NATO to resolve the simmering crisis in the Balkans, the region again shows signs of boiling over into bloody ethnic and religious warfare, as Russia's influence grows in the area, a result of disenchantment with Western peacekeeping efforts. A spokesman for the Defense Ministry of Macedonia, a small former republic of Yugoslavia located in the south central Balkan Peninsula, stated that Macedonia is appealing to Russia for assistance and will use Russian counter-terrorist experience in Chechnya, according to official Russian sources. Moscow stated that the Macedonian chief of staff, Gen. Jovan Petkovski, has already obtained an agreement with Russia to provide consultations with Macedonia on counter-insurgency techniques used in Chechnya. The [Macedonian] defense minister sees much in common between Albanian militants operating in Macedonia ⦠and [Chechen] armed groups, Moscow stated. The statements were carried by the Voice of Russia World Service, the official broadcasting service of the Russian government. For several years, Macedonia has witnessed serious civil strife between the Macedonian majority and the nation's Albanian minority. The Albanians claim that the Macedonian majority has discriminated against them, while ethnic Macedonians charge that the Albanians want to establish a Muslim Greater Albania carved out of Macedonian and Kosovo territory. Macedonian authorities are aware that international terrorist centers try to convert a country into a stronghold for the purpose of carrying out attacks using money from abroad and mercenaries, Moscow asserted, drawing a comparison between the guerrillas in Macedonia with Chechen militants who have attacked Russian territory outside of Chechnya. The militant Islamic guerrillas in the Chechnya republic, which is a member of the Russian Federation, have attacked neighboring Russian republics and have been accused of bombings in Moscow. Ties between the Chechen militants and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network have been established, and the Chechen fighters are known to finance a portion of their activities through illegal drug trafficking. The request from Macedonia for Russian expertise means that [Macedonia], which really realizes the danger of spreading international terror, assesses highly the methods used by Russia to suppress the Chechyn insurgency. Macedonia's interest in Russian counter-insurgency methods in Chechnya is occurring despite repeated Western condemnation of those methods. In April 2001, the U.N. Commission on Human Rights approved a resolution presented by the European Union that strongly condemns the continued use of disproportionate and indiscriminate force by Russian military forces ⦠including attacks against civilians, according to a BBC report. The Commission on Human Rights also denounced serious violations of human rights, such as forced disappearances, extra judicial summary and arbitrary executions and torture. At the same time the Macedonian Defense Ministry is seeking Russian advice on possible means of counter-insurgency, Gjorgji Trendafilov, a spokesman for the Macedonian government, expressed outrage at the suggestion that an agreement on the borders between Macedonia and Yugoslavia is not valid. According to a Macedonian Information Agency report, U.S. Brig. Gen. Keith Huber, who is the KFOR Commander of the Multinational Brigade East, stated that the Feb. 23, 2001, Border Delineation Agreement was illegal. Huber also stated that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan agreed with the assessment of the border agreement. KFOR is the U.N.'s military force in Kosovo, and it coordinates its efforts with UNMIK, the civilian U.N. Mission in Kosovo. Such statements are only supported by those that have caused the armed conflicts in Macedonia, Trendafilov declared. The question of the validity of the border agreement arose from claims by farmers in Kosovo who owned land in Macedonia but were unable to cultivate it. Huber stated that he will use troops to back the claim of the Kosovo farmers. The Macedonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs cited other statements from KFOR and UNMIK officials placing the border agreement between Macedonia and Yugoslavia in question, the Macedonian Information Agency reported. The president of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Vojislav Kostunica, also expressed his concern over statements questioning the legality of the border agreement. Kostunica appealed to Annan in a letter stating that the
[CTRL] SAS joins Kashmir hunt for bin Laden
-Caveat Lector- http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/02/23/wbin23.xmlsS heet=/news/2002/02/23/ixnewstop.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! SAS joins Kashmir hunt for bin Laden By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent (Filed: 23/02/2002) THE SAS is hunting for Osama bin Laden in the Indian state of Kashmir after intelligence reports stated that he had sought the protection of an extremist Islamic group. The SAS soldiers involved are part of a joint 40-man operation with Delta Force, the US equivalent of the SAS. The decision to send in British Special Forces followed the Prime Minister's visit to India, Pakistan and Afghanistan last month. Mr Blair's trip, made amid fears of a nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan over Kashmir, was followed almost immediately by a visit to both countries by Colin Powell, US secretary of state. At about that time, Indian intelligence told the CIA that they believed bin Laden was hiding in the Himalayan mountains in Kashmir, protected by the Islamic guerrilla group Harkat-ul-Mujahideen. The group, whose sphere of operations sprawls across Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, is believed to have smuggled him into one of many remote areas that are nearly impossible for the Indian army to police. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen is the latest incarnation of a militant Islamist group which is extremely closely linked to al-Qa'eda and has kidnapped a number of westerners, including two Britons who are still missing. The hunt is employing a range of high-tech devices. A spy satellite above the Indian Ocean operated jointly by American and British signals intelligence is being used to monitor any communications between bin Laden and other members of al-Qa'eda. Other satellites capable of using infra-red imaging to detect the movement of humans in the snow of the remote Himalayan passes are also looking for the terrorist leader. A senior defence source who recently returned from the region said the SAS troopers were acting in an advisory role for Indian Army special forces. Amid fears that any military intervention might ignite the border conflict between India and Pakistan, the SAS has been given strict orders to stay clear of any firefights and merely collect intelligence. But Pakistan's announcement this week that members of its Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) had been ordered to disband its section aiding Kashmiri separatist groups including Harkat-ul-Mujahideen appears to indicate that it has been informed of the SAS-Delta Force operation. One source said the team was mounting one of the most technical covert operations of the war to pinpoint any activity by members of the separatist group. The whole area is ultra sensitive, he said. But bin Laden has a history here with some of the terror groups and he may have regarded it as a safe haven. He knows we are not going to start bombing the area or sending in the marines, but there are lots of other things we can do and if he is alive he is definitely not safe. Bin Laden has not been seen since shortly before US and British Special Forces entered the Tora Bora complex in Afghanistan in November. The source refused to comment on what would happen if they managed to find bin Laden in Kashmir. But he added that the Indian Army was as keen as the rest of the world to see the al-Qa'eda leader dead. Many of Harkat-ul-Mujahideen's fighters trained in the Afghanistan terror camps. It recruits young Muslims from Pakistan and Britain and has received significant financial support from bin Laden and the ISI. The group was originally called Harkat-ul-Ansar (Movement of the Volunteers) and was sponsored by America in the 1980s to fight against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. It later turned its attention to the Kashmir issue. It was declared an international terrorist organisation by the US in 1987 and subsequently merged with an existing group, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (Movement of the Religious Fighters). As Harkat-ul-Ansar, it was responsible for the kidnapping of two Britons in 1995 - Paul Wells, 23, from Blackburn, and Keith Mangan, 33, from Middlesbrough - two Americans, a Norwegian and a German. One of the Americans escaped. The Norwegian was found beheaded. Nothing is known of what happened to the others. The kidnappers were demanding the release of three Kashmiri separatist leaders, one of whom was the British-born Islamic militant Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who is currently held by the Pakistani authorities in connection with the murder of the US journalist Daniel Pearl. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our
[CTRL] Sharon to loosen Arafat's confinement
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26573 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Sharon to loosen Arafat's confinement Deal with Mubarak includes letup in terror strikes on Israel -- -- Posted: February 22, 2002 1:43 p.m. Eastern Editor's note: DEBKAfile's electronic news publication is a news-cum-analysis live wire, online round the clock seven days a week. A weekly edition,DEBKA-Net-Weekly, is now available through WorldNetDaily.com. Drawing on DEBKAfile's unique sources, analytical talents and forward-looking insights, it is presented as a compact, intelligence-angled weekly package. It is available as a direct e-mail feed or via the Internet. © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has acceded to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's request for steps to ease Yasser Arafat's confinement in Ramallah â in return for a phased letup in Palestinian terror and improved relations with Cairo, according to DEBKAfile's political sources. What the two leaders agreed, in essence, in their telephone conversation yesterday was for the three processes to go forward in parallel, with Egypt accompanying each step. Until that phone call, the Egyptian ruler had virtually boycotted the Israeli prime minister for a year. Its immediate outcome was a high-level Israeli-Palestinian security meeting that same night, attended on the Israeli side by Shin Beth director Avi Dichter and IDF Operations head Maj.Gen. Giora Eiland. Representing the Palestinians were Muhamed Dahlan, head of the Gaza Strip Security Service, and Jibril Rajoub, head of Preventive Security in the West Bank. On the agenda were steps to de-escalate the surging violence. The first was carried out by Israel this morning, when its troops pulled out of positions occupied two weeks ago in the southern Gaza Strip and lifted the blockade trisecting the territory into impassable segments. Another crucial step will take place early next week, when Sharon invites non-combatant Palestinian Authority officials for a second encounter. The first took place earlier this month. DEBKAfile's sources point out that, by talking to Arafat's representatives amid a phased winding down of Palestinian terror, Sharon has in effect agreed to enter into indirect, Egypt-mediated negotiations under fire. He has evidently decided to give Mubarak a chance by accepting the following scenario: Israel-Palestinian exchanges will be resumed; The Palestinians will reduce the level of terror attacks; Israel will ease its preventive military and economic blockade measures; Arafat's conditions of confinement will be improved; Israel will let him go to Beirut for the Arab summit on March 28. If all these stages come to pass, Mubarak guarantees to block harsh anti-Israel resolutions in Beirut. After Thursday's broadcast, Sharon stonewalled when asked if the arrest in Nablus of the alleged assassins of Israeli Minister Rehavam Zeevi earlier that day would release Arafat to attend the Beirut summit on March 28. His answer was, Israel always honors its commitments. That answer related to his promise to the Egyptian ruler. As part of the process, Cairo will de-freeze its attitude towards Israel and the Sharon government in particular. Sharon will meet Mubarak â first in the Sinai resort of Sharm al Sheikh, followed by Mubarak's first visit to Israel as president. Inviting Sharon to Cairo then will be considered. Another key Middle East player, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, needed only one week to reconsider and take back the deal he floated before New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, namely normal relations between the Arab world and Israel in return for its withdrawal to pre-1967 frontiers. From the first, DEBKAfile discounted the motive behind the plan, judging it was aired more with an eye to Riyadh's rocky relations with Washington than the Israel-Palestinian impasse. Abdullah unsurprisingly killed the idea yesterday, announcing he would not bring it before the Arab summit. DEBKAfile's defense experts judge Sharon's buffer zone plan, unveiled in his address to the nation Thursday night, equally ephemeral. The zones are to run from the Gilboa Hill range in the north to beyond Hebron in the south, several kilometers deep. Concrete blocks and other obstacles will demark the zones, which will take at least a year to set up. Political sources suggest Sharon may have put the idea forward to convey the impression of motion in the war against terror. However, even if it were real, such long-term plans are bound to fall by the wayside in the rush of events beginning now, as the moment for a full-scale American offensive against Iraq draws near. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use
[CTRL] Angola Government Says UNITA's Savimbi Killed
-Caveat Lector- http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=worldnewsStoryID=624301 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Angola Government Says UNITA's Savimbi Killed February 22, 2002 05:11 PM ET Email this article Printer friendly version Reuters Photo By Justin Pearce LUANDA (Reuters) - Angolan UNITA rebel leader Jonas Savimbi, who battled the Luanda government for decades in one of Africa's longest-running wars, was killed in a clash with government troops on Friday, Angolan state media reported. In Moxico province, Jonas Malheiro Savimbi died in combat, Angolan national radio said. An Angolan presidential spokesman told a Portuguese radio station that government forces had Savimbi's body and planned to display it. A source close to UNITA, contacted in Lisbon, had no immediate comment on the report. Savimbi was the founding father of UNITA, which he says was born as an army of 12 people with knives, leading the rebel movement since 1966. Fighting in the former Portuguese colony in southwestern Africa has dragged on since 1975 and claimed an estimated one million lives. Presidential spokesman Aldemiro de Conceicao, quoting a statement by the Angolan government and armed forces, said Savimbi was killed at about 3 p.m. (8 a.m. EST) in east-central Angola Asked in an interview with private TSF radio if Savimbi was dead, he said: I confirm it. In fact, the government just released a statement confirming the death of Jonas Savimbi, which occurred today at 3 p.m. in the province of Moxico. We had a problem that just now has been removed, he added. The Angolan armed forces said Savimbi, 67, was killed as a result of a clash that occurred with a column that he was a part of, de Conceicao said. Joao Laurenco, secretary-general of the ruling MPLA party told state television that Savimbi had chosen his own destiny. An unofficial UNITA contact in Lisbon, Rui Oliveira, said: We are waiting for our forces in the interior to get in contact with us, only after that can we talk. UNITA is an acronym for the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola. BODY TO BE DISPLAYED De Conceicao said the armed forces had Savimbi's body and planned to display it in the next few hours. Certainly, we are going to display Savimbi's body for photographs, he said. The report of Savimbi's death comes as the United Nations tries to revive peace talks between Luanda's government and Savimbi's forces. The Luanda government, which had been Marxist but has embraced market principles, has reported several defections or the capture of top UNITA officers in recent months. The stocky, ebullient son of a railway stationmaster, Savimbi studied medicine in Lisbon and political science in Switzerland. He left Europe in 1961 to fight Portuguese rule and formed UNITA. His forces and allies came close to controlling Angola in fighting after the end of Portuguese rule. However, the Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola, backed by Cuban troops, swept through the country and won widespread recognition as the government of Angola. TSF reported that the streets of Luanda, the Angolan capital, were quiet. The Luanda police chief, Francisco Pestana, told Portugal's Lusa news agency that gunfire had been heard in the city, but it is gunfire of joy. Portuguese state television RTP reported from Luanda that the government had appealed for calm. The government also said it could declare a nationwide cease-fire, RTP said. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] 'Ghost soldiers' inflate Guard numbers
-Caveat Lector- On 23 Feb 2002 at 2:41, Bill Richer wrote: As many as 700 soldiers who had left the 12,000-member Indiana Guard were still being carried on the rolls, some for more than two years after they had left, the e-mails said This isn't anything to be shocked about. They did this in Tejas back in the 1960ies with some politicians' sons, too. Indiana? Time to send for Quaylie Dan ... he's got the induction policies of the Indy Guard memorised. Golf at the country club for PT! Sounds like it's time for a comprehensive recall. Maybe they can use the Speedway. AER A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Saddam's Bombmaker: Iraq Working on 'Hiroshima size' Nuke
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/2/18/203559 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Monday, Feb. 18, 2002 9:33 p.m. EST Saddam's Bombmaker: Iraq Working on 'Hiroshima size' Nuke Iraqi madman Saddam Hussein will likely have a Hiroshima size nuclear bomb within the next 24 months, the physicist who headed up Iraq's nuclear weapons research program said Monday. Citing U.S. intelligence estimates, Dr. Khidir Hamza told nationally syndicated radio taker Sean Hannity, I don't think he has [nuclear weapons] right now but it may not take long for him to have it - a year or two probably. U.S. intelligence estimates at least a year. Germany estimates by 2005, three nuclear weapons, the top Iraqi nuke scientist said. Dr. Hamza, who defected to the U.S. in 1994, warned about Hussein's nuclear weapons program in his autobiography, Saddam's Bombmaker, three years ago. More recently he has been working closely with U.S. intelligence agencies. He declined to describe the precise nature of his cooperation with those agencies, telling Hannity, I cannot talk about that. You know that. Hamza did reveal that the 1991 Gulf War interrupted Iraq's A-bomb program in its final stage, just as he and the rest of Saddam's nuke team were in the process of acquiring materials for the bomb's nuclear core. HAMZA: We [scientists] dragged our feet. We really had enough material to make the bomb then. We delivered it now back to the French but we claimed that we could not extract enough uranium to put in a nuclear core. ... HANNITY: So you're saying you did have enough - you could have built nuclear weapons but you dragged your feet? HAMZA: We could have, yes. Actually, everybody [dragged their feet], including the chemists who were in the process of extracting the uranium from the French bureau. Nobody wanted to give Saddam a bomb because we know he would use it recklessly and finish Iraq with it. (End of Excerpt) German intelligence now believes Hussein once again has all the bombmaking materials he needs except for the enriched uranium necessary for the nuclear core. According to the Germans he, more or less, has 30 to 35 percent of the technology needed to enrich uranium for bomb grade, said Hamza, adding, so he will have enough uranium, and he already has a stockpile of uranium to use. The top Iraqi nuke scientist said that, based on what he witnessed, Hussein is working on Hiroshima size weapons of 12 to 20 kilotons. But he cautioned: There was some enhancement to the bomb that could raise it to 40 kilotons. So you are looking at [a] realistic nuclear weapons stockpile equivalent to that of, say, at least India and Pakistan - and if it continues, probably larger. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. drops pledge on nukes
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020222-77660232.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! U.S. drops pledge on nukes By Nicholas Kralev THE WASHINGTON TIMES The Bush administration is no longer standing by a 24-year-old U.S. pledge not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states, a senior administration official said yesterday. Washington is not looking for occasions to use its nuclear arsenal, John Bolton, undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, said in an interview. But we would do whatever is necessary to defend America's innocent civilian population, he said. In case of an attack on the United States, we would have to do what is appropriate under the circumstances, and the classic formulation of that is, we are not ruling anything in and we are not ruling anything out, Mr. Bolton said. We are just not into theoretical assertions that other administrations have made, he said in reference to a 1978 commitment by the Carter administration not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states unless they attack the United States in alliance with nuclear-armed countries. On June 12 that year, Secretary of State Cyrus Vance made the following statement on behalf of President Carter, which became known as negative security assurances: The United States will not use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Non-Proliferation Treaty or any comparable internationally binding commitment not to acquire nuclear explosive devices, except in the case of an attack on the United States, its territories or armed forces, or its allies, by such a state allied to a nuclear-weapon state, or associated with a nuclear-weapon state in carrying out or sustaining the attack. In 1995, Warren Christopher, the first secretary of state in the Clinton administration, reaffirmed Washington's commitment. Along with the pledges of the other four permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, who are all nuclear powers, it became part of a resolution, which the council adopted April 11, 1995. But Mr. Bolton said such promises reflect an unrealistic view of the international situation. The idea that fine theories of deterrence work against everybody, which is implicit in the negative security assurances, has just been disproven by September 11, he said. What we are attempting to do is create a situation where nobody uses weapons of mass destruction of any kind. Mr. Bolton spoke a day after returning from Moscow, where he led the second round of arms-control negotiations that are expected to produce an agreement on nuclear cuts in time for President Bush's visit to Russia in May. The undersecretary said the negative security assurances never came up in the discussions with the Russians. Washington has never had a no-first-use nuclear policy but Moscow did until the mid-1990s. Mr. Bolton's remarks displeased some arms-control analysts yesterday, who said that such significant U.S. government statements as the negative security assurances should not be repudiated. These assurances are important in order to maintain the integrity and credibility of the nonproliferation regime. Repudiation can have a negative effect on international security, said Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association. The nonprofit organization's publication, Arms Control Today, discussed the issue in an interview with Mr. Bolton earlier this month. Although Washington's official position on using nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states has remained unchanged until now, both Democratic and Republican administrations have maintained ambiguity to maximize the credibility of the U.S. nuclear force, Mr. Kimball said. Only a year after the Clinton administration reaffirmed Mr. Carter's pledge, Defense Secretary William Perry said on April 26, 1996: If some nation were to attack the United States with chemical weapons, they have to fear the consequences of a response from any weapon in our inventory. ... We could have a devastating response without use of nuclear weapons, but we would not forswear that possibility. John Holum, Mr. Bolton's predecessor at the State Department under Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, said yesterday that the Bush administration's position to ignore the 1978 commitment would not affect the strategic balance of power but might send a wrong message overseas. It doesn't make the use of weapons of mass destruction more or less likely, but it's reflective of the administration's negative view of international treaties, Mr. Holum said. He noted that there was an extensive debate in the Clinton administration on whether it's responsible to rely on nuclear weapons to combat potential biological and chemical attacks, but a decision was made to maintain ambiguity. Mr. Bolton said there has been
[CTRL] 'The Real America I Know'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/22/142300.shtml WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 'The Real America I Know' President Bush Friday, Feb. 22, 2002 Editor's note: This is the official transcript of President Bush's address today at Tsinghua University in Beijing. PRESIDENT BUSH: Vice President Hu, thank you very much for your kind and generous remarks. Thank you for welcoming me and my wife, Laura, here. (Applause.) I see she's keeping pretty good company, with the Secretary of State, Colin Powell. It's good to see you, Mr. Secretary. (Applause.) And I see my National Security Advisor, Ms. Condoleezza Rice, who at one time was the provost at Stanford University. So she's comfortable on university campuses such as this. Thank you for being here, Condi. (Applause.) I'm so grateful for the hospitality, and honored for the reception at one of China's, and the world's, great universities. This university was founded, interestingly enough, with the support of my country, to further ties between our two nations. I know how important this place is to your Vice President. He not only received his degree here, but more importantly, he met his gracious wife here. (Laughter.) I want to thank the students for giving me the chance to meet with you, the chance to talk a little bit about my country and answer some of your questions. The standards and reputation of this university are known around the world, and I know what an achievement it is to be here. So, congratulations. (Applause.) I don't know if you know this or not, but my wife and I have two daughters who are in college, just like you. One goes to the University of Texas. One goes to Yale. They're twins. And we are proud of our daughters, just like I'm sure your parents are proud of you. My visit to China comes on an important anniversary, as the Vice President mentioned. Thirty years ago this week, an American President arrived in China on a trip designed to end decades of estrangement and confront centuries of suspicion. President Richard Nixon showed the world that two vastly different governments could meet on the grounds of common interest, in the spirit of mutual respect. As they left the airport that day, Premier Zhou Enlai said this to President Nixon: Your handshake came over the vastest ocean in the world -- 25 years of no communication. During the 30 years since, America and China have exchanged many handshakes of friendship and commerce. And as we have had more contact with each other, the citizens of both countries have gradually learned more about each other. And that's important. Once America knew China only by its history as a great and enduring civilization. Today, we see a China that is still defined by noble traditions of family, scholarship, and honor. And we see a China that is becoming one of the most dynamic and creative societies in the world -- as demonstrated by the knowledge and potential right here in this room. China is on a rising path, and America welcomes the emergence of a strong and peaceful and prosperous China. (Applause.) As America learns more about China, I am concerned that the Chinese people do not always see a clear picture of my country. This happens for many reasons, and some of them of our own making. Our movies and television shows often do not portray the values of the real America I know. Our successful businesses show a strength of American commerce, but our spirit, community spirit, and contributions to each other are not always visible as monetary success. Some of the erroneous pictures of America are painted by others. My friend, the Ambassador to China, tells me some Chinese textbooks talk of Americans of bullying the weak and repressing the poor. Another Chinese textbook, published just last year, teaches that special agents of the FBI are used to repress the working people. Now, neither of these is true -- and while the words may be leftovers from a previous era, they are misleading and they're harmful. In fact, Americans feel a special responsibility for the weak and the poor. Our government spends billions of dollars to provide health care and food and housing for those who cannot help themselves -- and even more important, many of our citizens contribute their own money and time to help those in need. American compassion also stretches way beyond our borders. We're the number one provider of humanitarian aid to people in need throughout the world. And as for the men and women of the FBI and law enforcement, they're working people; they, themselves, are working people who devote their lives to fighting crime and corruption. My country certainly has its share of problems, no question about that. And we have our faults. Like most nations we're on a long journey toward achieving our own ideals of equality and justice. Yet there's a reason our nation shines as a beacon of hope and opportunity, a reason many throughout the
[CTRL] Battle looms over a Noah's Ark law
-Caveat Lector- http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0222/p03s01-uspo.html WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Battle looms over a Noah's Ark law Proposed reforms to Endangered Species Act becomes clash of jobs vs. biological diversity By Brad Knickerbocker | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor ASHLAND, ORE. - Scientists, lawmakers, and advocates are set to wrangle over the most profound and controversial federal environmental law ever passed - the federal Endangered Species Act. Lawsuits have been filed, and a slew of proposals on Capitol Hill could significantly change what plants and animals qualify for protection. Are there too many animals on the endangered species list? You can expect some battles - time, place, and players to be determined, says one congressional source. Enacted in 1973, the law was designed mainly to save animals such as eagles, wolves, otters, and salmon - those noble, brave, and cute charismatic megafauna that all Americans recognize and can perhaps identify with. But over the years, the list of animals and plants threatened with extinction has grown to more than 1,000, including such obscure species as the Shivwits milk-vetch herb in Utah and the Tumbling Creek cavesnail in Missouri. At last count, 1,244 plant and animal species had been listed as endangered or threatened, and another 236 candidate species awaited listing. The law is a kind of a modern-day Noah's Ark, designed to save the last few individuals from being wiped out and then provide a way for them to revive. Once an organism makes the list, federal officials must design and implement a recovery plan - an expensive process that can impact private property to devastating economic effect. It's also a drawn-out process that has seen several dozen species go extinct while awaiting rescue. Aside from questions about balancing economic and biological values, the law increasingly highlights the debate over what constitutes an endangered species and whether or not some species are worth saving. Defensive supporters Supporters of the act are on the defensive these days. A National Academy of Sciences panel recently declared that federal officials may have erred last summer in cutting off water to farmers in the Klamath Basin of Oregon and California in order to protect three endangered fish species. A federal judge has declared there's no difference between endangered wild Pacific Coast salmon and hatchery fish. (A point many biologists argue strongly against.) And opponents charge that government scientists deliberately planted evidence in order to support the contention that the Canadian lynx needs more habitat to prevent its extinction. The ESA has become a wrecking ball in this country, devastating personal finances and regional economies, says US Rep. James Hansen (R) of Utah, chairman of the House resources committee. It's time we reform this law, grounding it in sound science, not political ideology. Along the Oregon-California border last summer, some 1,400 farms and ranches had their federal water cut off when it was determined that two species of lake fish and coho salmon in the Klamath River - all listed under the Endangered Species Act (ESA) - had first dibs on the water. The basin's rural economy lost about $134 million as a result, while protesting farmers broke open irrigation headgates and faced off against federal law enforcement officers. But the issue there is far more complicated than fish versus farmers. The area is also home to several large wildlife refuges, including the wintering area for upwards of 1,000 bald eagles. At the same time, the Klamath Indian Tribes have water rights dating back to 19th-century treaties with Washington. Many experts say the water has simply been over-allocated during the past century, leading to a steep decline in fish and waterfowl. In the case involving endangered lynx in Rocky Mountain wilderness areas, the scientists and their defenders say they were merely trying to test the system used to distinguish similar species. But that has not stopped longtime critics of the ESA from charging that junk science was used to promote a proenvironment agenda by those who sometimes call themselves combat biologists. At the heart of the issue is the ESA's requirement to use the best available science in determining listings and recovery programs. This can present a moving target for biologists and other experts, leading to findings that are not entirely satisfactory. In the Klamath Basin case, for example, the panel of university experts gathered by the National Academy of Sciences also determined that significantly lowering lake water levels to benefit farmers as the US Bureau of Reclamation (and the Bush administration) wants to do would pose an unknown risk to protected fish. The panel's final report won't be released until next year. New lawsuits Meanwhile, the legal and political maneuvering continues.