At 12:43 PM 3/29/2003 -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
I totally agree. The US has lost everything in terms of world opinion.
We are morons led by an insane lunatic and the US needs to be dealt with
accordingly. Once we start invading Syria, the world will retaliate in a
big way. We're already
Yes, wicca is a word with old roots.
The inventor of wicca, Gerald Gardner, had a very good idea looking up
the old english word for 'witch' when he concocted his story in the
50's. Wicca is nonsense. I've known plenty of wiccans, and guess what...
Even if every wiccan that ever existed were put
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James A. Donald:
Indeed, this He said, she said approach, which treats US
reports and Iraqi reports as equally credible, seems to me
like Baathist propaganda, like anti western bias.
Kevin S. Van Horn:
Lying is as natural to governments as breathing is to normal,
healthy people.
Harmon Seaver wrote:
And what makes you think things would have been any better in the
absence of Christianity?
You've heard of the Inquistion perhaps?
The Catholic Church (which carried out the Inquisition, in cooperation
with various governments) is not the whole of Christianity. There are
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:44:43PM -0500, stuart wrote:
Yes, wicca is a word with old roots.
The inventor of wicca, Gerald Gardner, had a very good idea looking up
the old english word for 'witch' when he concocted his story in the
50's.
I have no clue who Gerald Gardner is, but you
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Greetings Traitors,
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At 8:02 AM -0800 on 3/31/03, James A. Donald made a splendid attempt
to re-appellate Marc Lucky Green Briceno to Commie Red. I was
always suspicious of that boy. Never trust anyone with a continental
accent, I always say. I
At 09:06 AM 3/29/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Tim wrote:
To cut to the chase, several of my former friends are calling me a
traitor and claiming to have reported me to the FBI for my statements
about how the war machine ought to be hacked and undermined.
See below. A so-called conservative
Neil Johnson wrote:
- Most important, using Biological or Chemical Weapons is a two-edged
sword. They could do just as much damage to their own troops as to
the US and UK troops if they make a mistake.
Might be interesting to see what would happen if iran felt threatened by
bush's aggressive
At 4:05 PM -0800 3/31/03, Neil Johnson wrote:
- They don't want the US to be able to justify the invasion, See we told you
they had WMD, we had to go in.
If I were Iraq, I would make sure that any WoMD that survived the
inspections were destroyed and all traces removed as part of an
On Monday 31 March 2003 11:40 am, Steve Schear wrote:
At 05:00 PM 3/31/2003 +, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:35:55 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
hi,
What's the US line on why Iraq hasn't shot nukes, chems and bio
weapons at them? If an invasion and missile
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 06:06 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:44:43PM -0500, stuart wrote:
Yes, wicca is a word with old roots.
The inventor of wicca, Gerald Gardner, had a very good idea looking up
the old english word for 'witch' when he concocted his story in the
Harmon Seaver wrote:
But of course, the problems really pre-date all that, going back to
when the christer Romans came and killed off the Druids and Wiccans
who wouldn't bend the knee to conversion, as they did in the rest of
Europe.
You are completely and utterly wrong here. The Romans never
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 08:06:54PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 06:06 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:44:43PM -0500, stuart wrote:
Yes, wicca is a word with old roots.
The inventor of wicca, Gerald Gardner, had a very good idea looking up
the
Dave Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For those on this list in the Boston area there is a hearing
scheduled on the Mass Bill at 10 Am in Room 222 of the Mass State House
in Boston.
10am on what date?
-derek
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Computer and Internet Security Consultant
Long, potentially boring email, follows...
- David Price probed on playlists, saying he really
didn't understand how playlists worked.
Tift did a great job in showing the passion and frustration of dealing with
a crooked industry. When David Price started this questioning I don't think
he got
For those on this list from the Boston area there is a public
hearing on the Mass version of the Super-DMCA bill on Wed April 2nd
at 10 AM in Room 222 of the Mass State house in downtown Boston.
This might be a chance to find out who is sponsoring this
legislation and raise some
Tyler Durden wrote:
[...]
PS: Anyone notice the conceptual similarity between shock and awe and
blitzkrieg?
Yes, similar in some respects, though not the same. Shock and awe
(terrible name for a quite sensible idea) was about a military force
which is overwhelmingly stronger than its opponent
At 09:36 AM 3/27/03 -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 08:41 AM, John Kelsey wrote:
...
However, it seems to me it would be very hard for this news not to leak
out. If, say, a nuke or serious bioterror weapon had been found in a major
city, a lot of agencies would have had
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Damian Gerow wrote:
And then the whole world dies, because of ... what?
Natural stupidity.
Seriously, I *highly* doubt that any nation at this time would *seriously*
think of bombing another nuclear-enabled nation with a nuclear weapon. It's
just suicide.
'a couple
Mike Rosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So when the rest of the world retaliates with all their military power that
the US fails to appreciate, what strategic war plan does the rest of the
world have for handling a couple thousand nukes? Just trying to figure
their options?
Russia, China
Derek, etal
If you (or anyone) goes, I'm sure we'd all appreciate some
notes on what transpired. I understand 17 different bills are
being considered at this hearing, so don't blink or
you may miss it.
Peter Trei
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Dave Emery
Steve Mynott wrote:
Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, I think there's an obvious disconnect on this issue. Clearly,
pre-Christian religious practices survived Christian persecution
throughout the ages. From the little I know, some of the practicing
Druids actually have received a nearly
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
Here's a story about a kid who basically made a duct-tape and tin foil
reactor. Or almost. If it's a hoax, its a pretty good one.
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
-TD
Inspiring... :)
This was widely reported, in a
John Kelsey wrote:
I think there was some complicated argument about the Taliban not
being a legitimate government,
What's a legitimate government? One with enough firepower to make its
rule stick?
Peter,
I'll see if I can get there. I'm not sure I can. But I know a
number of other MIT-types who are considering going. If I can
go I'll try to keep notes. If I can't go, then hopefully someone
else can take some notes.
-derek
Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Derek, etal
If you
The public hearing on the Mass version of the super-DMCA bills
that have been the topic of so much discussion is scheduled for
tommorow April 2nd at 10 AM in room 222 of the State House in Boston.
This may supply some answers as to who is originating these
bills and what their
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This was widely reported, in a major magazine article (Atlantic
Monthly, if I remember correctly) several years ago. It was also
debunked.
Yes, it was an old story. But a nice one... :)
Debunked? How?
A reactor made with bits of smoke detectors (Am-241) and other cruft
is _not_ a reactor.
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 15:16, Tim May wrote:
This Tyler Durden nym claims to be a high school physics teacher,
IIRC, and also claims to have once worked in industry. The high
school part I find plausible, the industry part also plausible (given
some of the folks I had to work with).
And
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 01:10:56PM -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000336.html
Quoting:
Here is one example of the far-reaching harmful effects of
these bills. Both bills would flatly ban the possession, sale,
or use of
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At 4:35 PM -0500 on 4/1/03, Trei, Peter wrote:
If you (or anyone) goes, I'm sure we'd all appreciate some
notes on what transpired. I understand 17 different bills are
being considered at this hearing, so don't blink or
you may miss it.
Cool.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 04:52 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
He desperately needs to get up to speed.
Speed makes you paranoid in a while.
(...or would it be get up on speed? English propositions are a
minefield.)
The idiom comes from this form: get up to (achieve) a speed of 100
km/hour,
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Poo Poo. I'd say it was a hoax, but there's not much to hoax. I don't
think the article ever says the kid created a reactor. He just brought
together a largish amount of radioactive material and made a mess.
You fucking cretin, _you_
I vaguely remembered something about the Taliban not being recognized by
the UN as Afghanistan's legitimate govt, apparently they were still
acknowledging the govt in exile or something. Apparently that was a
brief moment when the US actually cared about the UN's opinion, but, as
usual, only
I don't think they will need to fight us, just impose sanctions by the UN, or
even just a world boycott of the US. That and a few suicide bombers in the US
now and again. How many suicide bombers in airports would it take to finish off
the US air industry? The rest of the world is perfectly
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 08:50 pm, Neil Johnson wrote:
When I went to work for the University I graduated from. I discovered all
sorts of interesting things and even more when my sister enrolled.
Harmon Seaver wrote...
Duh! Why don't you ask the pope to prove god exiests? WTF do you mean by
authentic anyway? That has to be patently one of the most stupid
statements I've ever seen on this list. If someone says they worship
Ishtar or Isis or Brighid or Gaia, who they fuck are you to say
Or perhaps a little closer to home, check out Aleister Crowley, William
Yeats, and all that crowd. Magick, alchemy, the craft of the wise, are all
long practiced spiritual paths, certainly as valid, probably even more, than
christianity.
Well, I think there's an obvious disconnect on this
Steve Mynott wrote...
The burden of truth lies with you and Harmon to prove authentic pagans
exist.
Well I don't know if I cared enough to call it a 'burden'! You may be
correct wrt European pagan traditions.
But certainly Santeria and the assoicated Cajun varieties are a different
matter,
You won't find a prohibition against using drugs, nor a requirement to
persecute those who use them, anywhere in the Christian scriptures.
Well...not exactly a prohibition, no, but close. As I remember there's
something in either Peter or Paul mentioning pharmakia, which is usually
translated
Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, I think there's an obvious disconnect on this issue. Clearly,
pre-Christian religious practices survived Christian persecution
throughout the ages. From the little I know, some of the practicing
Druids actually have received a nearly unbroken chain of tradition.
The
Hundreds of reporters are embedded with the soldiers on the
ground. This makes it impossible for the US government to lie
overmuch.
Well it's not like a reporter can just jump onto a tank and ride wherever
its going. Those embedded reporters are pre-selected and then sent with the
troops that
Poo Poo. I'd say it was a hoax, but there's not much to hoax. I don't think
the article ever says the kid created a reactor. He just brought together a
largish amount of radioactive material and made a mess.
As for getting up to speed, let's just say I've lived in a cave for the
last bunch of
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Duncan Frissell wrote:
So when the rest of the world retaliates with all their military power that
the US fails to appreciate, what strategic war plan does the rest of the
world have for handling a couple thousand nukes? Just trying to figure
their options?
Russia,
Here's a story about a kid who basically made a duct-tape and tin foil
reactor. Or almost. If it's a hoax, its a pretty good one.
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
-TD
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Hundreds of reporters are embedded with the soldiers on the
ground. This makes it impossible for the US government to
lie overmuch.
On 1 Apr 2003 at 11:06, Tyler Durden wrote:
Well it's not like a reporter can just jump onto a tank and
ride wherever its going. Those embedded
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