Re: [datameet] Re: Survey of India published - District, Block and Village Boundaries

[Craig Dsouza]

Sorry, i thought i was replying to Justin. I don't know if there are any
download limits, except that you can only download one district at a time.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 19:25 Craig Dsouza  wrote:

> Seems like it yes.
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 17:56 Justin  wrote:
>
>> Great find! I am pretty sure you need a cell phone in India to actually
>> create an account/ access?
>>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 5:16:28 AM UTC-5 craig...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>> has anyone written any scripts or downloaded & explored these?
>>> https://onlinemaps.surveyofindia.gov.in/Digital_Product_Show.aspx
>>> It seems SOI is now publishing District, Block and Village Boundaries in
>>> vector formats for free
>>>
>>> [image: soi-snapshot.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [datameet] Re: Survey of India published - District, Block and Village Boundaries

[Craig Dsouza]

Seems like it yes.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 17:56 Justin  wrote:

> Great find! I am pretty sure you need a cell phone in India to actually
> create an account/ access?
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 5:16:28 AM UTC-5 craig...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>> has anyone written any scripts or downloaded & explored these?
>> https://onlinemaps.surveyofindia.gov.in/Digital_Product_Show.aspx
>> It seems SOI is now publishing District, Block and Village Boundaries in
>> vector formats for free
>>
>> [image: soi-snapshot.jpg]
>>
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Re: [datameet] Twitter data

[Craig Dsouza]

It got approved! didn't get an email update though,
realized only when I visited dev.twitter.com

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 6:39 PM Sidharth  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I could be due to Corona, the offices are in low capacity.
>
> For me it was approved within hours.
>
> Do let us know what happens.
>
> Regards,
> Sid
>
> On Fri, 22 May 2020, 11:40 Craig Dsouza,  wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>> if i can piggyback on this question
>> how long does it typically take for the Twitter developer account to be
>> approved?
>> I applied for one about 6 days ago , received one follow up mail and
>> nothing after that
>>
>> Best
>> Craig
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:05 AM Srinivas Karuturi <
>> srini.karut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you guys for all the feedback..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Srinivas
>>>
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 10:00 AM, Rahul Gupta 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Srini,
>>>
>>> Best way to go about it is to register for a Twitter developer account
>>> and use the Twitter Data API.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards-
>>> Rahul Gupta
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 May, 2020, 11:28 am Srinivas Karuturi, <
>>> srini.karut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>>>
>>>> I am working on building a sentiment analysis dashboard and would like
>>>> to check if anyone is aware of good scraping tools that can gather tweets
>>>> with the following information based on user input of keywords and location
>>>>
>>>> 1. Original tweet, number of replies, number of likes, number of
>>>> retweets, location, twitterHandle, link to the tweet
>>>> 2. Retweet, number of replies, number of likes, number of retweets,
>>>> location, twitterHandle, link to the tweet
>>>> 3. Replies, number of replies, number of likes, number of retweets,
>>>> location, twitterHandle, link to the tweet
>>>>
>>>> Any information would be helpful
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
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Re: [datameet] Twitter data

[Craig Dsouza]

Hey all,
if i can piggyback on this question
how long does it typically take for the Twitter developer account to be
approved?
I applied for one about 6 days ago , received one follow up mail and
nothing after that

Best
Craig

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:05 AM Srinivas Karuturi 
wrote:

> Thank you guys for all the feedback..
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivas
>
> On 21 May 2020, at 10:00 AM, Rahul Gupta 
> wrote:
>
> Hey Srini,
>
> Best way to go about it is to register for a Twitter developer account and
> use the Twitter Data API.
>
> Thanks & Regards-
> Rahul Gupta
>
> On Thu, 21 May, 2020, 11:28 am Srinivas Karuturi, <
> srini.karut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>
>> I am working on building a sentiment analysis dashboard and would like to
>> check if anyone is aware of good scraping tools that can gather tweets with
>> the following information based on user input of keywords and location
>>
>> 1. Original tweet, number of replies, number of likes, number of
>> retweets, location, twitterHandle, link to the tweet
>> 2. Retweet, number of replies, number of likes, number of retweets,
>> location, twitterHandle, link to the tweet
>> 3. Replies, number of replies, number of likes, number of retweets,
>> location, twitterHandle, link to the tweet
>>
>> Any information would be helpful
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Srinivas
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Re: [datameet] River depth data all over India districtwsise

[Craig Dsouza]

sure, first can you explain what you tried? and why you say it is
inaccurate?
perhaps share screenshots showing what you see vs what you expect to see

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:23 PM Sabyasachi Kabiraj <
sabyasachi.kabir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I went through the website but the elevation it is showing is not
> accurate.. can you please explain me how to derive the depth data from the
> website?
>
>
> *...*
> *Sabyasachi Kabiraj*
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>
>
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 12:05, Craig Dsouza  wrote:
>
>> try the ICESat/ ICESat2 dataset:  https://nsidc.org/data/atl13
>> accessible here as well https://www.openaltimetry.org/
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 11:51 AM Sabyasachi Kabiraj <
>> sabyasachi.kabir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi friends, I am looking for river water depth data in India,
>>> particularly
>>> in Maharashtra coastal regions, Can anyone help me regarding this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *...*
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>>> Senior Research Fellow
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>>> Santhome, Chennai- 28
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Re: [datameet] River depth data all over India districtwsise

[Craig Dsouza]

try the ICESat/ ICESat2 dataset:  https://nsidc.org/data/atl13
accessible here as well https://www.openaltimetry.org/

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sabyasachi.kabir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi friends, I am looking for river water depth data in India, particularly
> in Maharashtra coastal regions, Can anyone help me regarding this?
>
>
>
> *...*
> *Sabyasachi Kabiraj*
> Senior Research Fellow
> Central Institute of Brackishwater Aquaculture (ICAR-CIBA)
> Santhome, Chennai- 28
> Tamil Nadu, India
> Email: sabyasachi.kabir...@gmail.com, sabyasachikabi...@aukdc.edu.in
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Re: [datameet] Gauge discharge data of Andhra pradesh

[Craig Dsouza]

Have you tried http://indiawris.gov.in/wris/ ?

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 11:41 Dilip Raj 
wrote:

> Hi Sir,
>
> Gauge discharge data is nothing but there will discharge recording gauge
> stations same as rainfall recording gauge stations.
>
> Kindly help me in where can i get the data of Andhra Pradesh.
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 9:50 PM srinivas kodali 
> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure what exactly you mean by gauge here, but you can get the
>> tank levels of major water sources on various portals.
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, 18:09 Dilip Raj, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Where can i get gauge discharge data of Andhra pradesh for hydrology
>>> study.
>>>
>>> Can any one please share the link.
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Re: [datameet] Chennai water body coordinates

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Try  https://global-surface-water.appspot.com
you can explore via the app or download the dataset

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:26 PM dipu rai  wrote:

> Hello there,
> Trying to find data on Chennai water body shape files data along with
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> bodies today with those in years gone by.
>
> Thanks
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> India Today
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Re: [datameet] Indian watershed and river basin shapefiles

[Craig Dsouza]

have you tried USGS Hydrosheds?
https://hydrosheds.cr.usgs.gov/dataavail.php

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 1:50 AM Adam Jadhav  wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Anyone have an handy resource for finding shapefiles for Indian
> watersheds? I'm looking for shapefiles for a series of small west
> coast rivers.
>
> I am throwing my hands up at trying to work through India-WRIS as it
> seems to fail at most turns.
>
> I'm about ready to just take a hardcopy atlas and georeference it
> myself, but I'm sure there's an easy solution or data portal that I
> just can't find.
>
> Any hive-mind-help would be appreciated.
>
> Warm regards,
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[datameet] Announcing the Earth Engine Community Forum and Webinar Series

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Hello,

Since Datameet is a forum where a lot of earth science / GIS/RS people 
gather.. some of you might find this interesting


*Earth Engine Community Forum*

A few of us (M D Madhusudan, Pradeep Koulgi and I) who work on Google Earth 
Engine  realised the potential it has to 
improve collaboration among groups using remote sensing for impact in 
India. However the lack of a dedicated forum was still one of the barriers 
keeping a community from forming. Hence we initiated the Earth Engine India 
Users Community  (Website 
 and Google Group 
) This is an 
unofficial user community site for Earth Engine enthusiasts based in India 
or elsewhere who are working on India specific themes and problems using 
Remote Sensing/GIS. The forum is open to members of any level of expertise, 
from beginners and the curious to experienced users. We hope to see some of 
you engage with us there, share your scripts, discuss possible 
collaborations and more.


*Community-on-Air*:

As part of the Community activities we're organising a Webinar Series ‘EE 
India Community-on-Air ’. 
This series will be a monthly feature, taking place on the 1st Saturday of 
every month, beginning tomorrow. These webinars will feature users of Earth 
Engine working on India specific themes, and also tutorials on Earth Engine 
for users of different levels. In case you'd like to feature in one of our 
future events please reach out to pradeepkou...@gmail.com. 

To join tomorrow's webinar, please see details below

When: 11:00 am to noon, Saturday, December 1, 2018 (link to calendar event 

)

Where: YouTube livestream (link 
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Cheers,

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[datameet] Re: My diary on Open Data: Roads in India

[Craig Dsouza]

Nice post Naveen
found this comment funny and also cool :)

   - Central Govt website for BharatMala project 
    uses our 
   OSM data. (without attribution)



On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 7:12:50 AM UTC+5:30, Naveen Francis 
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>
>
> Hello,
>
> Open Data: Roads in India
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/44970
>
> Please request to govt to release more #opendata 
>  in the spatial format 
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf
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Re: [datameet] Station-wise, Hourly rainfall data from IMD now available

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Sharing data I'm archiving from this year's monsoon - June, July, August, 2018
https://craigdsouza.github.io/data/IMD-Hourly-Precipitation-Data

Please forward to those interested
Regarding the license for use of this data, I am awaiting a reply to an RTI 
filed with IMD regarding their 'negative list'of non shareable data. Hoping 
that the Open Data License, 2017 applies to this. 
Will update the page with those details as soon as I know

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Re: [datameet] Station-wise, Hourly rainfall data from IMD now available

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Hi,
the web app still doesn't allow downloads, that is for govt access only.
I edited the blogpost with this clarification.
You can however access the scraped data. See the blog post for more

Best
Craig

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> Hey there,
> Where do I have to sign up, to download the data? 
>
> Thanks and regards,
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>
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>> Hello all,
>> sending out this mail to a few of you colleagues in the 
>> water/environment/open data domains.
>> I recently came across a new web app the IMD has published sharing 
>> hourly, station wise precipitation data. 
>> Not sure how long ago this became operational, but it looks to be a big 
>> step forward in terms of data availability.
>> Wrote a blog post about it. Do have a look and offer your thoughts.
>>
>> https://craigdsouza.github.io/blog/Station-wise-hourly-IMD-precipitation-data
>>
>> Best
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[datameet] Station-wise, Hourly rainfall data from IMD now available

[Craig Dsouza]

Hello all,
sending out this mail to a few of you colleagues in the
water/environment/open data domains.
I recently came across a new web app the IMD has published sharing hourly,
station wise precipitation data.
Not sure how long ago this became operational, but it looks to be a big
step forward in terms of data availability.
Wrote a blog post about it. Do have a look and offer your thoughts.
https://craigdsouza.github.io/blog/Station-wise-hourly-IMD-precipitation-data

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[datameet] Station-wise, Hourly rainfall data from IMD now available

[Craig Dsouza]

Hello all,
sending out this mail to a few of you colleagues in the
water/environment/open data domains.
I recently came across a new web app the IMD has published sharing hourly,
station wise precipitation data.
Not sure how long ago this became operational, but it looks to be a big
step forward in terms of data availability.
Wrote a blog post about it. Do have a look and offer your thoughts.
https://craigdsouza.github.io/blog/Station-wise-hourly-IMD-precipitation-data

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[datameet] Re: ISRO Bhuvan usage?

[Craig Dsouza]

What's the nature of your problem?
I've used their Elevation and Land use Land Cover data previously
Can help with that


On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 11:06:07 PM UTC+5:30, Hemant K wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Has anyone used Bhuvan (or other) image data from ISRO? Looking for 
> guidance on what's available and how to utilize it. Have explored the ISRO 
> website, but still do need guidance. Would really appreciate it. 
>
> Thanks,
> Hemant
>
>
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Re: [datameet] Re: White Paper on Data Protection framework for India - Public Comments invited White Paper on Data Protection framework for India - Public Comments invited

[Craig Dsouza]

Added comments from DM Pune, have a look

Best
Craig

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 7:52:41 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
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> Sure. We can keep it open till friday (26th).
>
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>> Hey Thej, 
>> We had an open forum discussion on this at DM Pune yesterday.
>> Have compiled points from the session and we may be meeting again 
>> tomorrow in a smaller group to add more.
>> Can we keep the doc open till Tue/Wed for submissions?
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:11:18 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>>>
>>> Please read and do send your comments
>>>
>>>
>>> http://meity.gov.in/white-paper-data-protection-framework-india-public-comments-invited
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[datameet] Open Water Data - Precipitation

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi all,
we (Datameet Pune & CIS) have released the first version of our web app for 
rainfall data, allowing you to download daily rainfall data for an area of 
your interest for the time period from 1981 to 2017
http://www.indiawaterportal.org/articles/open-water-data-integrated-water-science

the dataset used to show precipitation data is CHIRPS v 2.0, the same 
dataset used by the IIT Gandhinagar team in their recent publication.
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/iit-team-develops-system-to-monitor-drought-in-south-asia/article19803285.ece

P.S.: Do note however that their dataset has been further corrected for 
errors and biases to compare it with IMD data, which we haven't done yet.
Planning to do so in the coming months.

Few requests
1) If there's anyone out here who has scraped IMD weather station data in 
the past few years we would very much like to see that, it would help in 
further validating the CHIRPS data. Please do get in touch.
2) If anyone out here works in water resources/hydrology/RS or is 
interested in the same we would like to chat to see how we can take this 
work further.
3) We need people to test out the app and give feedback or point out 
issues. Fill out a short feedback form here 


Best
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[datameet] Re: White Paper on Data Protection framework for India - Public Comments invited White Paper on Data Protection framework for India - Public Comments invited

[Craig Dsouza]

Hey Thej, 
We had an open forum discussion on this at DM Pune yesterday.
Have compiled points from the session and we may be meeting again tomorrow 
in a smaller group to add more.
Can we keep the doc open till Tue/Wed for submissions?


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> Please read and do send your comments
>
>
> http://meity.gov.in/white-paper-data-protection-framework-india-public-comments-invited
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Re: [datameet] 12th January Data Protection Committee Public Consultation in Hyderabad

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Hey,
how did the Delhi consultation go?


On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 3:30:34 PM UTC+5:30, Srinivas Karuturi 
wrote:
>
> Is there a way we can push them to do an online consultation as well 
> versus traveling to various places? 
> I would like to participate in the feedback and possibly present the whole 
> thing on Data Protection/ Privacy/ Classification of data and how it should 
> be managed within Government entities. 
>
> I am not residing in India and hence the challenge. If we can get the full 
> schedule then I can make plans to travel for one of the meeting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivas
>
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 1:14 PM, srinivas kodali  > wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> The Justice SriKrishna committee on Data Protection will be in Hyderabad 
> for Public consultation on 12th January. 
>
> The white paper released by the committee can be accessed here 
> https://innovate.mygov.in/data-protection-in-india/
>
> The committee report doesn't yet cover classification of public data/ open 
> data, apart from a wide range of issues like data ownership, encryption and 
> other such important issues around data. 
>
> If you are in Hyderabad, please do attend it and raise these issues. The 
> location of the consultation and registration link is shared below
>
> The Auditorium, Dr. MCR HRD Institute, 
> Road No. 25, Jubillee Hills, Hyderabad – 500 033.
>
> people can register here 
> https://innovate.mygov.in/dpipc_location/hyderabad/
>
>
> Regards,
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[datameet] Re: GIS for Community Forest Management

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Thanks Harsha, Gagan,
will get in touch with you both directly

On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 9:19:41 AM UTC+5:30, Gagan Bansal wrote:
>
> Hi Craig,
>
> Interesting project, I would like to work for this project.
>
> Regards,
> Gagan
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 10:16:03 PM UTC+5:30, Craig Dsouza wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> this is a call for volunteers interested in learning more data management 
>> practices while assisting rural communities' efforts to manage their forest 
>> lands.
>> Do read and forward to those interested.
>>
>> *Community Forest Management*
>>
>> *About the Project*
>> Approximately 1100 villages in Gadchiroli district in Eastern Maharashtra 
>> have applied for and received 'Community Forest Rights' (CFR) over the last 
>> few years. This means that the Right to Govern land that has been 
>> traditionally used by these villages for collection of forest produce is 
>> now in their own hands. Earlier, State ownership of forest lands always 
>> posed a challenge to sustainable forest management because sale of forest 
>> produce could always be controlled by government, which didn't directly 
>> have a long term interest in the sustainability of the forests. 
>> Village communities in these areas are now coming together to 
>> collectively plan for management of the forest resources and livelihoods in 
>> the district. Dr. Madhav Gadgil, renowned ecologist and his associates have 
>> been in communication with about 50 Gram Sabhas in the region to provide 
>> them with capacity building and technical support to catalogue forest 
>> resources and prepare forest management plans. Datameet Pune has been in 
>> dialogue with Dr. Gadgil on this matter and we have prepared a list of 
>> tasks we could assist them with.
>>
>> *Tasks*
>> 1. Locating Census Codes of the chosen 1100 villages
>> 2. Extracting tabular data about the villages from various CFR documents 
>> (mostly PDFs)
>> 3. Preparing an automated process to develop village maps to go with 
>> wikipedia articles that have already developed for each village.
>> 4. Preparing a process so people in the villages can use a GPS app to 
>> mark out more details of forest lands in their own villages. This 
>> information can then be uploaded and inserted into village maps.
>>
>> 5. Help with preparing a project proposal for translating QGIS to 
>> Marathi. This is so people in each village can prepare more detailed maps 
>> they can add to the articles.
>> 6. Helping prepare a basic curriculum in GIS data collection and analysis 
>> for a diploma course in Community Forest Management for Mumbai University 
>> (which will be taught by Dr. Gadgil among others) beginning Feb, 2018
>>
>> We need help with the above tasks, most of it is volunteer work and some 
>> may involve an honorarium. Those interested and *willing to commit time* 
>> please 
>> contact us at pu...@datameet.org If we have enough volunteers we may do 
>> a meetup to work together on this
>>
>> Best
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>>
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[datameet] GIS for Community Forest Management

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Hi all,
this is a call for volunteers interested in learning more data management 
practices while assisting rural communities' efforts to manage their forest 
lands.
Do read and forward to those interested.

*Community Forest Management*

*About the Project*
Approximately 1100 villages in Gadchiroli district in Eastern Maharashtra 
have applied for and received 'Community Forest Rights' (CFR) over the last 
few years. This means that the Right to Govern land that has been 
traditionally used by these villages for collection of forest produce is 
now in their own hands. Earlier, State ownership of forest lands always 
posed a challenge to sustainable forest management because sale of forest 
produce could always be controlled by government, which didn't directly 
have a long term interest in the sustainability of the forests. 
Village communities in these areas are now coming together to collectively 
plan for management of the forest resources and livelihoods in the 
district. Dr. Madhav Gadgil, renowned ecologist and his associates have 
been in communication with about 50 Gram Sabhas in the region to provide 
them with capacity building and technical support to catalogue forest 
resources and prepare forest management plans. Datameet Pune has been in 
dialogue with Dr. Gadgil on this matter and we have prepared a list of 
tasks we could assist them with.

*Tasks*
1. Locating Census Codes of the chosen 1100 villages
2. Extracting tabular data about the villages from various CFR documents 
(mostly PDFs)
3. Preparing an automated process to develop village maps to go with 
wikipedia articles that have already developed for each village.
4. Preparing a process so people in the villages can use a GPS app to mark 
out more details of forest lands in their own villages. This information 
can then be uploaded and inserted into village maps.

5. Help with preparing a project proposal for translating QGIS to Marathi. 
This is so people in each village can prepare more detailed maps they can 
add to the articles.
6. Helping prepare a basic curriculum in GIS data collection and analysis 
for a diploma course in Community Forest Management for Mumbai University 
(which will be taught by Dr. Gadgil among others) beginning Feb, 2018

We need help with the above tasks, most of it is volunteer work and some 
may involve an honorarium. Those interested and *willing to commit time* please 
contact us at p...@datameet.org If we have enough volunteers we may do a 
meetup to work together on this

Best
Craig

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[datameet] Open Water Data Paper

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Dear all,
Please see attached a paper by Datameet  and CIS 
. This paper seeks to take one step forward in the 
direction of better water data, by highlighting currently available data 
relevant to water resources mgmt, generated from remote sensing sources, 
Govt sources, citizen sources and other relevant global meteorological data.The 
idea for this paper arose from a need that was felt for strategies to 
address the lack of easily accessible open data in the water sector. The 
government at different levels effectively operates as the monopoly in 
monitoring the status of water resources in the country. Hence their 
shortcomings in making water data available affects the ability of 
researchers, civil society groups, businesses and citizens to understand 
the degree of water availability and demand, thereby making more 
sustainable decisions challenging.
​
 Open Water Data in India.docx 

​
The paper discusses specifications of different datasets, including 
information such as duration of data availability, spatial and temporal 
resolution, data formats, licenses, methods of access etc. The paper also 
compares these different datasets to assign a simple 'open data' score to 
each dataset. Links to relevant resources to understand and use each of the 
datasets have been listed. Though many datasets are highlighted the authors 
of the paper wish to make clear that no single data source must be 
considered accurate without question. 

The hope driving this initiative is that a conversation opens up around 
these datasets beyond small academic communities. Once the data in question 
is openly available to all concerned stakeholder groups, only then can the 
quality of the debate around water data evolve. Working groups of multiple 
stakeholders deliberating on open data we hope could lead to better 
knowledge of the state of water resources. We request that you take some 
time to browse through the paper and offer your thoughts, comments, 
questions and feedback. General feedback via mail to p...@datameet.org and 
specific feedback as comments in the Google Doc. 

Even after highlighting the availability of this data hurdles to access 
water data still remain because as it stands currently using these datasets 
is technically challenging. Hence in addition to this effort Datameet is 
also working towards building an open access web platform that simplifies 
access to these datasets even further. This tool would also allow 
juxtaposing community collected water data alongside global and national 
datasets, not just for visualization but also for analysis and 'bottom-up' 
model building. While this is a long term effort, the first iteration of 
this tool will be shared with you in the coming weeks.

We welcome collaborations with water sector professionals (especially field 
researchers), civil society groups, RS & GIS professionals and also 
especially web developers in this work. Do mail us to discuss more.

Regards
Datameet & CIS
Craig, Namita, Jinda, Riddhi, Nisha, Sumandro

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Re: [datameet] Re: TED Global - Three word address for every place on Earth

[Craig Dsouza]

Hmm, didn't know about this Map my India project either

We can write, but I feel they won't have a problem with the MMI 
requirement, as long as their service is affordable.
Its more than just the algorithm and database right..
even if open source algorithms are available someone still needs to create 
the digital infrastructure (tools & APIs) that businesses or governments 
can use to access location databases on a large scale
and anyone who does create that digital infrastructure will want to recover 
the costs of building it.

At times like these we need more examples of successes of open data, 
databases, etc. to counter


On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 10:18:13 AM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>
> This is not a good idea. 
>
> - Its closed algorithm and database
> - Needs MMI maps or API access to work
>
> May be we should write to postal department. 
>
>
> On 17-Nov-2017 07:16, "Naveen Francis"  
> wrote:
>
>
> The department of posts - which is under the ministry of communications — 
> is working on a project that will accord a six-character alphanumeric 
> digital address for every property for three postal pin code locations. 
>
> Here's what it does: The department will give e-locations (like on Google 
> Maps) for the addresses and then provide possibilities to link them to 
> other information, such as property title and ownership, property tax 
> records, information on util .. 
>
> Read more at:
>
> //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/6140.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest_medium=text_campaign=cppst
>  
> 
>
>
> http://www.mapmyindia.com/eloc/
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 4 November 2017 00:24:56 UTC+5:30, Suvajit wrote:
>
>> Usage of dictionary words for encoding is the interesting bit.
>> Otherwise it is the geohashing technique which is in play. And geohash 
>> has been in use for quite some time now.
>> Thanks for sharing tough.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Suvajit Sengupta
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Justin  wrote:
>>
>>> I listened to this a long time ago, pretty good insight into the 
 mongolia situation if I recall:
>>>
>>> https://gimletmedia.com/episode/21-postal-addresses/ 
>>>
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[datameet] Re: Event: OpenStreetMap for Civic Engagement (Talk) & Mapping Rural Roads (Workshop) - Datameet Pune

[Craig Dsouza]

For those who want to get an early start this is a Mapping Walkthrough 

 we 
prepared
Happy Mapping!

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[datameet] Event: OpenStreetMap for Civic Engagement (Talk) & Mapping Rural Roads (Workshop) - Datameet Pune

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Hi all,
The Datameet Pune chapter is keen on working towards improving 
OpenStreetMap (OSM) in rural areas.
We've organized a talk/workshop on the 25th of Nov, Saturday to discuss the 
applications of OSM in civic engagement and then learn to contribute to OSM 
through the 'Mapping Rural Roads' project.

Do join!

Meetup link: https://www.meetup.com/DataMeet-Pune/events/245114878/
Venue: The Daftar 2.0 
,
 
Baner Road, Pune

*11 - 11.15 am*
Personal Introductions and About Datameet

*11.15 - 11.45 am (on Google Hangouts - link will be shared later)*
Talk by Kshitiz Khanal (Kathmandu Living Labs) - 'Applying OSM data in the 
context of Disaster Resilience and Civic Engagement'

*11.45 - 1.15 pm (will not be webcast)*
We will learn to map roads connecting villages in Pune District, to improve 
the coverage of the map in rural areas. You can preview the Event here and 
even begin mapping before the event.
http://tasks.openstreetmap.in/project/89

Follow along with this link to see your progress (after saving your work 
with the tag #rural-roads)
http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/rural-roads

What to bring: 
Please bring along your Laptop
Install Google Chrome and the plugin for Google Hangouts for the initial 
talk.
Preferably, create a login id for openstreetmap.org before coming if you do 
not have one

Please RSVP with a reply to p...@datameet.org if you will attend in person
The venue has a limit of 15 persons hence admission is on a first come basis

Best
Craig

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[datameet] Re: TED Global - Three word address for every place on Earth

[Craig Dsouza]

Interesting stuff, hadn't realised there were so many systems.
Liked reading this page for a comparison of different approaches 
https://github.com/google/open-location-code/wiki/Evaluation-of-Location-Encoding-Systems
I wonder why Google hasn't publicized their system more, especially since 
its already integrated with Google Maps and its only a 6 digit code

With regards to adoption it seems as though these systems will be easier 
for location based service companies/government services to adopt
For general community users who are just looking to find their way around, 
you're right... they would want the address to have some 
intuition/hierarchy.
It appears that's what FB is going for with their approach. It seems as 
though their approach may be accepted more easily than W3W.
I don't think either of the two will be organically adopted though. They 
would depend on government to force it through.



On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 11:03:08 PM UTC+5:30, Justin wrote:
>
> W3W is a gift and a curse. It is a commercial product. Several nations 
>> have somewhat embraced it (Mongolia, Liberia, and a few others I believe), 
>> but locally it may run into difficulties. People will not understand what 
>> cow.goat.cat 
>> 
>>  
>> means. Facebook is also in development of such a project: 
>> https://research.fb.com/publications/robocodes-towards-generative-street-addresses-from-satellite-imagery/
>>  
>> 
>
>
> I actually went to the presentation for the facebook addresses by Ilke 
> Demir. I spoke to her afterwards about community buy-in and how people 
> would actually use it. These are real challenges that I don't know how they 
> will actually deal with. She was excited about the project, but really 
> didn't know how to answer those questions.
>
> Cheers,
> Justin 
>

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[datameet] TED Global - Three word address for every place on Earth

[Craig Dsouza]

What do you guys think of the new geocoding system .. three word addresses? 
Anyone working on this?

Chris Sheldrick: A precise, three-word address for every place on earth

https://www.ted.com/talks/chris_sheldrick_a_precise_three_word_address_for_every_place_on_earth/up-next

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[datameet] Re: 15-20 meter contour line shapefiles for Uttarakhand?? Also Land use map if available

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi Ananya,
I'm not sure if contour line shapefiles are commonly published anywhere.
However DEM raster files (from which you can generate contour lines of any 
intervals) are available from multiple sources
USGS Earth Explorer (SRTM 1 Arc second Global) : 
https://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/
Bhuvan (India's geo-portal for Cartosat DEM) 
http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/data/download/index.php

Uttarakhand is small enough that you may need only 4-5 raster tiles
Once you have those you can easily derive contour shapefiles from them in 
QGIS
http://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/working_with_terrain.html

Land Use maps are less accessible, you would need to write to Bhuvan for 
them separately.
What resolution maps are you looking for?

Regards
Craig

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 4:59:43 PM UTC+5:30, Ananya Bhatia wrote:
>
> Please help to access the shapefiles
>

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[datameet] India Land & Development Conference, 10-11 Mar (IT & Land Governance may be of interest)

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi all,
I might be going for this next month in Delhi, 10th and 11th March, 2017
http://nrmc.co/index.php/india-land-and-development-conference-2017

Important dates: 
5th Feb (if you want to submit a paper abstract or poster writeup.)
15th Feb (registration deadline) fee is Rs. 1500 for both days

The session on IT and Land Governance may be of interest to some of you. We 
can maybe get a conversation going about village maps since we talk so much 
about that here :)
http://nrmc.co/index.php/conference-details-ildc2017/session-1-information-technology-land-governance

Let me know if any of you decide to go. Would be good company

Best
Craig

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[datameet] Re: Latur District: Ground water level data

[Craig Dsouza]

Richa, WRIS India has groundwater level depth maps from a few monitoring 
wells
You have to select Latur district to get levels data
http://www.india-wris.nrsc.gov.in/GWLevelApp.html?UType=R2VuZXJhbA==?UName=

You can also have a look at the Minor Irrigation Census 
 data that is published on 
data.gov.in
https://data.gov.in/search/site/dugwells
You won't get any location data, but i think they have number of wells, 
potential utilized etc.
It is the 4th MI Census, for the year 2006-07, the 5th one hasn't been 
published yet. 


On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:49:55 AM UTC+5:30, Richa Dhawale wrote:
>
> Where can i get the dugwell location of latur district and its water 
> level- depth. Please share if someone has it.
>

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Re: [datameet] Fwd: Fwd: [New post] Happy Independence Day and Open Indian Village Boundaries

[Craig Dsouza]

Thej,
the census codes lookup tables 2001-2011 are attached.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4-jbJK7OOmrckpCSkZWbnZOUFZydEFfdlM5eWd1dkR2Q29v
Raphael on the group had shared them earlier.
the original source 
is https://egovstandards.gov.in/mapping_land_region_codification



On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 9:28:10 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>
>
> @arun
> Thank you
>
> Couple of tasks:
> 1. Enhance our list of references on readme.md  
> https://github.com/datameet/indian_village_boundaries
> It will help us as we work on the maps.
>
> 2.  Adding CENSUS_CODE_2011 codes for villages. It can be derived 
> from CENSUS_CODE_2001 codes. But needs work and validation.
>
>
>
> Added contributing.md page 
>
> https://github.com/datameet/indian_village_boundaries/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
>
>
> Thej
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> On 17 August 2016 at 21:17, Arun Ganesh  
> wrote:
>
>> Its amazing to see this move forward with DataMeet, thank you Nisha and 
>> Thej for pushing this! Any immediate tasks with which others could support?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Nisha Thompson > > wrote:
>>
>>> @Sharad - To expand what Thej said:
>>>
>>> Thej and I met with lawyers at Alternative Law Forum in Bangalore.
>>>
>>> We discussed DataMeet, we are a community of people who believe in open 
>>> data and share data with one another over the group. The data is usually 
>>> government owned publicly available data that was procured through many 
>>> methods but sometimes data owned by individuals (companies, researchers, 
>>> students etc) are shared as well.
>>>
>>> We met with them regarding the mapping data we hold. Currently DataMeet 
>>> has the only publicly available Parliamentary and Assembly Constituency 
>>> shapefiles for download under OBDL, as well as District, some ward maps and 
>>> other isolated mapping information provided to us to maintain by the 
>>> community.
>>>
>>> When the community decided to start tackling the village files Thej and 
>>> I were concerned about having that much mapping data available from 
>>> government sources given the Survey of India's regulations regarding 
>>> mapping information.
>>>
>>> There is a lot of gray areas in the law and in the regulation. Basically 
>>> we should be concerned with copyright violation but it is unlikely that 
>>> they will go after you for that. It is important to create a sense of 
>>> demand, then document the process of getting and processing the information 
>>> and also that this information being shared is in the public interest. 
>>>
>>> Copyright Law - Data is not technically copyrighted but the way it is 
>>> stored and created is. Maps are creations and interpretations of data 
>>> therefore a map is technically copyrighted. Making a copy of it and 
>>> changing it's format from one to another is a gray area in copyright. (Some 
>>> say yes some say no)
>>>
>>> Mapping Policy - Only the Survey of India is allowed to map and 
>>> distribute maps. However, they make a lot of partnerships with vendors and 
>>> distributors for their maps. Again taking an official GOI and SOI map 
>>> (Census, NIC village provided maps) and changing the format a gray area for 
>>> copyright but whether the SOI considered it a violation of their 
>>> distribution is another story. 
>>>
>>> What it comes down to is our intent and how risk adverse we are. 
>>>
>>> We are not very risk adverse and we believe in open data for public 
>>> good, so we decided to move forward with the effort but proceed cautiously 
>>> and deliberately.  
>>>
>>> If the government asks us to take them down we will but we should be 
>>> prepared to make the case for why they should provide the maps. 
>>>
>>> We spent some time collecting demand information from people on why 
>>> mapping information needs to be available and ideally in the open.
>>> We articulated the need to have this information in the open and with 
>>> the Save the Map campaign in full swing at the same time there has been a 
>>> reasonable public conversation about the importance of mapping information 
>>> be available, not restricted, and in the open.
>>> We then looked at the states that already had PDF maps of their villages 
>>> available and began to convert them, people contributed their individual 
>>> efforts in converting maps and over the last several months managed to get 
>>> the whole country in some form or the other.
>>> Now we can finish processing them and get them out to the public.
>>>
>>> This is an ongoing conversation and we will continue having the 
>>> conversation with ALF and others so please send any questions.
>>>
>>> Nisha
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Arun Ganesh >> > wrote:
>>>
 Thej, if it helps, the OSM wiki probably has the most comprehensive 
 documentation of the varying boundary levels in India 
 

[datameet] Re: India WRIS - Web Map Services

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi Thej, Arun
I use the WRIS WMS for the rivers layer and command areas of irrigation 
projects layer.
Both are fairly accurate. I've been able to find smaller streams, named in 
government documents (environmental clearances) which can't be found on 
google/osm.
So in that sense they're usable.
In fact I'm toying with the idea of editing osm waterways to resemble the 
rivers WMS available on WRIS.
Arun, what do you think, since you've done a lot of editing of rivers on 
OSM already?

Best
Craig

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 1:36:58 AM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>
> They publicly suggest using these WMS services. Any one has tried? How is 
> the quality of Administrative Layer
>
> http://india-wris.nrsc.gov.in/WMSServicesApp.html?UType=R2VuZXJhbA==?UName=
>
>
>  
>
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[datameet] Re: Chhattisgarh health data

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi Kuhu,
Have you come across the Annual Health Survey. It has district wise sample 
data for some common diseases
http://www.censusindia.gov.in/vital_statistics/AHSBulletins/AHS_Factsheets_2011_12/Chhattisgarh_Factsheet_2011-12.pdf

Best
Craig

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:25:56 PM UTC+5:30, Kuhu Gupta wrote:
>
> hello everyone,
> I need data regarding the diseases prevelant in chhattisgarh and how many 
> people are affected by the diseases at the district level.Could anyone 
> share the data or guide me to the right source?
>

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Re: [datameet] Public consultation on Government Open Data Use License - India

[Craig Dsouza]

Added my comments on the hackpad.
Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear 
reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published 
along with the dataset it should be ok
Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use of 
data.

With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My 
initial thoughts were
I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving a 
clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying 
information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as 
well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given 
documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to 
obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained 
this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to 
access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally 
identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information 
that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't 
know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing 
the crime.

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
>
> I will add it there on monday. 
> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra"  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Thejesh
>>
>> Hope you have contributed the same at 
>> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india
>>  
>> comment box.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sitansu
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN > > wrote:
>>
>>> I have updated the document. My only comment was 
>>>
>>> Section 6.  I think as a license it should talk about only how a dataset 
>>> licensed under such a license can be used and as such license should not be 
>>> defining what data can be included or excluded. I think that 
>>> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data sharing 
>>> policy and not license.  
>>>
>>> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ...
>>>
>>> Please add or edit to the hackpad 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> so we can send i can submit on monday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thej
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>>>
>>> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN  
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I have the hackpad at

 https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7


 I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th so 
 we will have enough time to upvote. 




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 On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta  wrote:

> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred from 
> being licensed, does that cover any sort of names
> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school along 
> with their attributes, will it violate this section?
>
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali 
> wrote:
>>
>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but the 
>> policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs maintain 
>> their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be a 
>> bit 
>> universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in. 
>>
>> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious 
>> task itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being 
>> published 
>> by government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal 
>> information which shouldn't be published on the web in the first place.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivas Kodali
>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"*
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c & 6.e

>>>
>>> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but the 
>>> entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that have 
>>> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the 
>>> provider 
>>> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that should 
>>> the 
>>> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job to 
>>> exclude them.
>>>
>>> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what 

[datameet] Re: India Village Shapefile Data

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi Justin,
Speaking from the Datameet Pune group here. We also have the files, for 
many states. Dev helped us with figuring out an open WFS endpoint on the 
Bhuvan site.
Since then we've downloaded the data for these 10 states. 



We've also been really keen on publishing the datasets. To answer your 
question as to why haven't we done it yet. 

- Yes, the fear of having to answer the question of how we got the files is 
one reason.

- Secondly, we're working on cleaning them up and adding census attribute 
data to them. Like Dev said, the Bhuvan shapefile isn't an exact match to 
the census list of villages. But we've found that with some cleaning we 
still get a very usable dataset. 

Once we create thematic visualizations from these its easier to show their 
usefulness and get broader support from academics,civil society (rather 
than just tech groups) asking for these datasets to be open. 

Take the savethemap campaign for example. Its hard to spread awareness when 
not many people understand what impact it could have.


One thing making the cleaning process cumbersome is that not all of the 
files have both village codes 2001 and 2011 in their attribute tables. It 
seems that some of the files we downloaded were a work in progress. For 
example when I first downloaded Maharashtra it didn't have any 2011 census 
codes. When another of the DM Pune guys downloaded Maharashtra a few weeks 
later it had both 2001 and 2011 census codes. 


Having said all this it's obviously no good if we do all the cleaning up 
and then don't have a plan for publishing it. Its about time already! I 
suggest we have a dialogue about this within this group about the best way 
to do it. Perhaps Thej, Nisha can comment?


Best

Craig  


On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 7:21:01 AM UTC+5:30, Justin Meyers wrote:
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> Can I post shapefile data for India Villages?  
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[datameet] Datameet Pune Internship Opportunity

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi everyone,
We are pleased to announce an internship/thesis opportunity with the
Datameet Pune group and Samuchit Envirotech (a social enterprise working on
sustainable development in Pune). The intern would work on land use and
water supply related data for Pune city.
In addition to applications from interns we also welcome data professionals
residing in Pune who can spare some time in mentoring the intern's work.
Please read the attached announcement for more details. Do forward to your
contacts as well.

Regards
Craig Dsouza

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[datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Craig Dsouza]

I am in favour of a strong stance against this bill being passed in any 
form. There should be (almost) no compromises. The only regulation I can 
possibly support is regulating map providers so that they blank out all 
military areas, but this bill is much much larger in scope than that. We 
should directly raise the question of what goal is really achieved by this 
bill? Since ostensibly, the main purpose of the bill i.e. preserving the 
'*security, 
sovereignity and integrity of India*' can still be threatened because 
geospatial data (satellite imagery etc) for India is still available to 
people outside India. 
Many have suggested that this is not really about integrity but 
representation i.e. international boundaries, to compel map providers to 
show India's boundaries, as declared by the GoI. This in fact Google 
already does, they show all of J as India's territory. Even if they don't 
in my opinion amounts to restriction on freedom of speech if you are not 
allowed to make a map showing that one part of the country is claimed by 
other governments, or a map showing that some people, somewhere are 
demanding a new state.
This bill will also severely affect NGOs which definitely cannot afford the 
process of licensing for every single map they wish to use/publish. It 
could also be used as a tool to silence dissent if organizations publish 
maps the government doesn't like.

The *email template* to be sent out is top priority. Is there someone 
already working on it? It should reject the bill altogether explaining why 
this bill doesn't really achieve its stated purpose and also how it will 
stifle GIS innovation in India.
The wording of the email template will need to be simple language, without 
tech jargon. 

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:38:46 AM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>
> Or else all those small players will have to go Underground as happens in 
> oppressive regimes.
>
> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 9:37:30 PM UTC+5:30, Gagan Bansal wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote: 
>> > HI,  
>> > 
>> > I was shocked to see this news today.  
>> > 
>> > 
>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > A part from the news  
>> > 
>> > "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon 
>> be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and 
>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through 
>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and 
>> license from a government authority."  
>> > 
>> > A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Rgards  
>> > Dilip Damle 
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> Here are my observations: 
>> # I feel if this bill is passed in partial/modified or full, not at all 
>>  good for small companies/startup that are working on open source map 
>> data/OSM or creating geospatial data in some form. as big companies 
>> (International mapping companies or utility/telecom companies) can easily 
>> set up a division to liaison with licensing authority on monthly basis or 
>> as per requirement. But for small companies this would not be possible. So 
>> in any form of licensing is problematic. 
>>
>> # Another major point, In India most of the geospatial companies are 
>> service companies which are working for government agencies. So data 
>> ownership for such services would be with govt. agencies hence licensing 
>> policy is not applicable here and would not affect these companies. Most 
>> likely all research/educational institutions would not be included in 
>> licensing policy. So very small segment of industry is affected. To raise 
>> the voice there are very few people if we compare this bill with net 
>> neutrality bill. 
>>
>> So tackling the problem is not very simple. 
>>
>> We should put this issue that this bill is against "Digital India" and 
>> "Make in India" objective and I feel its truly against these. 
>>
>> Regards, 
>> Gagan
>
>

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[datameet] Land Use Land Cover [LULC] Raster for India available through Bhuvan on request

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi,
Since there was discussion around Land Use - Built up areas, people can 
also see LULC maps Bhuvan makes available for India as both a Web Map 
Service and in the form of the original raster. They prepare LULC maps for 
India at a scale of 1:250k annually since 2004-05 and 1:50k (higher 
resolution) once in every five years (2005-06, 2010-11) The 1:50k maps are 
available only as a WMS (useful only for visualization), but 1:250k are 
available as a raster GeoTIFF (which lends itself to analysis). You have to 
go through a certain procedure and fill out an MoU and mail them a letter 
explaining your intent, then follow it up with a few phone calls.
See here: http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/gis/thematic/index.php#

I applied for the raster for the Mahanadi River Basin, (80-87E and 19-24N) 
for all 10 years from 2004-05 to 2013-14, on behalf of the NGO that I work 
for and they have made it available to us with a single use license (wish 
it was open access, but this is still better than nothing) As per my 
understanding they process each request and verify that no areas of concern 
for national security are within our specified area of interest before 
making it available.



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Re: [datameet] Visualizing Pollution Data

[Craig Dsouza]

Hey Pradeep,
For *Groundwater levels* the Water Resources Information System (WRIS, CWC) 
has a pretty good map of monitoring wells and temporal, seasonal data for 
groundwater over the years
http://www.india-wris.nrsc.gov.in/GWLevelApp.html?UType=R2VuZXJhbA==?UName=

For *Surface and Groundwater quality* data is available for download from 
WRIS
>From the home page, go to Subinfo System under WRIS Explorer
Then find Water quality>Surface water/Groundwater

CWC has about 400 surface water quality stations across India and CPCB has 
about 900. Both measure a different range of parameters, CPCB fewer 
parameters than CWC. Historical data is available for download, in many 
cases 20 years or more.
You can mail/call WRIS if you have difficulty accessing data. They are 
cooperative, in my experience.

The data could be visualized in many ways, better than the WRIS website 
does it.
Will be great to see what you come up with.

One of issues with surface water quality though is that there aren't enough 
stations across the country, and this is an issue near bigger industrial 
polluting areas The range of parameters the existing stations measure is 
also inadequate to capture industrial pollution. Thus we really need to 
provide some space for citizen monitoring of water quality.
Urban pollution (sewage) and even some agricultural pollution (nitrates) it 
may capture well.

Let me know your comments once you explore more.

Best
Craig 


On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 2:09:19 PM UTC+5:30, JohnsonC wrote:
>
> Hi Pradeep, 
>
> Water availability is being recorded for Hubli-Dharwad by folks at 
> nextdrop.org.
>
>
>
> On 30 January 2016 at 09:43, Pradeep Bhatt  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Anything on water quality?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Sarath Guttikunda > > wrote:
>>
>>> And there is 
>>>
>>> www.openaq.org
>>> which is scrapping data off the sites and posting an archive in real 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Sarath
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Dr. Sarath Guttikunda*
>>> *http://www.urbanemissions.info *
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Pradeep Bhatt >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone,

 We are trying to simplify visualization of city pollution data, air, 
 noise and water pollution.

 We also intend to show ground water level on map which is easier to 
 understand. 

 Any good UI samples for this that you recommend? 

 We also have some questions on water quality. Any experts in that area 
 here?

 Regards,
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[datameet] Re: about shape-file for river basin

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi Aditya,

You can check out the USGS Hydrosheds website. Click the link for data 
download on the left panel
http://hydrosheds.cr.usgs.gov/index.php
They have basin shape files for each continent.
The shapefile for India looks something like this.
It shows the major river basins well, but not many of the sub-basins and 
this is particularly relevant for N and NE India, where it appears as 
though the Ganga and Brahmaputra are just one basin

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ERd8dmQEJ4E/VaoWG1q6wyI/Bcg/5LUqPEXGNAw/s1600/India_River_Basins_USGS_Hydrosheds_30s_beta.PNG
 

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 9:19:14 PM UTC+5:30, Aditya Nilwar wrote:

 Is there any source for total Indian river basin shape file.

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[datameet] Re: Reminder: First Meetup Datameet Pune is tomorrow!

[Craig Dsouza]

Sorry, that was the wrong link
Here is the right one (Datameet Pune - First meetup)
https://plus.google.com/events/c25iktllkpi3q1ncaudjjqauhcc

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Craig Dsouza craigds...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 You can access the Google Hangout link here
 https://plus.google.com/events/cmod1njvpca1c2enbfe7pa4pmqc
 Please let me know if it works fine

 Regards
 Craig

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Craig Dsouza craigds...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear friends!
 Just a reminder for the first meetup scheduled for tomorrow, the 13th of
 July at 7 pm. We have more than 20 of you who have confirmed. Those of you
 who haven't been able to mail me yet please let me know by tonight so we
 can arrange logistics for tomorrow. We will be arranging for a Google
 Hangout facility for those of you who cannot make it in person. Will send
 the link shortly before the meeting.

 The address is as given below. Click here https://goo.gl/maps/CvnZB for
 the google maps directions


 *ThoughtWorks Technologies India Pvt Ltd.6th Floor, Binarius Building, *


 *Deepak Complex, National Games RoadShastrinagar, YerawadaPune,
 Maharashtra 411006*

 I have also attached an excelsheet of the names of people who have signed
 up so far. Looking forward to collaborating with you all!

 Best Regards
 Craig and Nikhil

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Re: [pttfgen:5551] Re: [datameet] Draft requirements document for Design Contest for open sourced Bus Routes Management System for PMPML

[Craig Dsouza]

Hi Nikhil,
Been going over the presentation and first of all this is great work! Very
systematic thinking.
I have added some of my thoughts below. Not all of this is necessary in
v1.0 of this Bus routes mgmt system, but thinking long term, these are
features that i thought were important.

*Stop viewing*

   - Let users rate/comment on the state/quality of bus stop.
   - Give the users the timings (departure/arrival) for their starting bus
   stop to the stop they want to go to (some bus maps i've seen only show what
   time the bus leaves from its depot so the user does not know what time it
   will reach his/her own stop) Maybe you could have an option for 'Leave now'
   or 'Leave later' like Google maps

*Route viewing*

   - Let users comment on the state/quality of the
   bus/driver/conductor. Something like the olacabs app. (only makes sense if
   more or less the same bus drives on the same route each day)
   - Let users see a tab showing the expected and actual arrival times of
   the bus (on average, for different days of the week) sort of like what the
   irctc website has for trains. This could be enabled with an app that
   records bus passenger gps data. I have an irctc app that does the same when
   i'm on a train

*Route management*

   - If the system could somehow show live data for 'number of passengers'
   on each trip (based on ticket sales/avg distance travelled) that could form
   the basis for more responsive/flexible decision making on which routes need
   more frequent buses. It would also give insight into whether the use of
   buses in the city is increasing/decreasing, thereby giving policymakers
   incentive to improve the system (because metrics show concrete improvements)

Besides the above points we could also have social media integration, so
users can share any positive experiences.
Also with this system the mobile app would be as important if not more
important than the web interface, most internet traffic these days is
mobile.

I also had some thoughts on the discussion and proposal put forth by
Adhiraj. As a separate initiative, it can very well be made the goal for a
modelling exercise, seems like a problem that programmers could do well
with. The goal would be optimizing the routes for 'time taken' and
'frequency' based on multiple inputs.

Regards
Craig


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Sarang Mahajan sarangkmaha...@gmail.com
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 Dear Nikhil,
 A similar exercise was conducted by Mumbai Environmental Social Network
 for the Bus route mapping of BEST buses. It was not a competition but a
 project for MMRDA. It included pasting of maps on the bus stops which
 contain related information of all the routes passing through that stop. It
 has been a successful and recognised project by MESN. I am attaching a
 photo for your reference. It also won the VOLVO sustainable mobility award!
 Please let me know if any such method can be incorporated.

 Regards,

 *Sarang K. Mahajan*

 *Mobile: +91 9011954500 *

 On 7 July 2015 at 12:52, Nikhil VJ nikhil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Nisha, Srinivas,

 Thanks.. the idea started out with engaging a college's whole computer
 engineering department or a prof and his/her students for a full-fledged
 internship/mou project that extends over at least 3 months. And then I
 thought it would be better to throw the challenge out in the open instead
 of locking-in dependency... if the bus authority is the one issuing the
 challenge then it'll probably carry through and get taken up seriously.
 Professors usually complain about not having meaty projects for their
 students' internships. So let's meet that demand.

 So right now this is how I envision a possible contest timeline (I'm
 thinking to much ahead but here it is anyway):
 1. Announcement with open sharing of data and design requirements (so
 really kicking it off with all resources made available)
 2. Taking in registrations from teams
 3. Forming an online community of all participating teams and airing out
 all doubts, clarifications etc there
 4. Setting periodic checkpoints of select features that each team must
 achieve and showcase or else be dropped from the competition. (like
 achieving map display, achieving stops-editing, on-map editing, GTFS
 conversion, etc)
 5. Final lap of 1 month to get everything together, and have to put up
 fully functional prototype loaded with data for public review by a set
 deadline.
 6. Some surprises that I don't want to reveal right now, they'll work
 only if kept secret.

 And here's how I'm thinking of bringing the aspects of collaboration in :
 Teams can contact each other and merge into one, with no roll-back
 possibility. This will be easily done IF we haven't kept any prize money
 that needs to be split. This could lead to, say, a joint solution created
 by 2 or 3 colleges working together.

 I don't care if it doesn't work out at the end.. something of this sort
 will produce something or the other that's useful. After all, when you