Re: Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists]

Debian buster 32b i386 is the dysfunctional 1/2 part (that the scammer might have access to until I am able to find acceptable dvd to burn 64bit Debian 10.10 into (dropped Bullseye because of request I couldn't do; no Grub) So I can renew that half. For me a probable way to test different distros

Re: Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists]

My exMac looks like old Mac, but 1/2 of software/harddisk is Debian i386 32b Buster, another 1/2 of HD (Toshiba MK1655GS ssd 160gb, Intel, 3gb memory) is Linux Mint 32b Ubuntu-based. Wikipedia said it's the first Mac (Snow Leopard)to run on 64bit. You asked what changed it from being a Macbook to

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Scam: Was from outside of this list. This info because someone thought I accused this list. Sorry for the confusion I made. BR, Geg. On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 23:46 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, < deb...@polynamaude.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-01 9:58 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > I expected

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I see. It's now a dual boot; Debian 10.9 i386 32b Buster (installed from netinst dvd), in which Synaptic crashed 80%. Tried reinstall with above dvd, it was rejected, not sure why. So I restored the machine with a DVD with Linux Mint, dual boot; Debian above is 1/2 , Mint is 1/2 & set up Synaptic

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Hi, On 2021-08-01 9:58 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > I expected that answer. > Debian is still 1/2 of it, but kinda dysfunctional, cos of me & scam > Trying to set up Debian in a VM in another Linux distro, with Chef > So I cannot really see irrelevance > of my question?? Like Nobody here knows

Hard to understand, being clear [ was Re: MDs & Dentists]

Hi, Here's some example of hard to understand posts... Maybe I ain't the only one following the thread, that tried to help Gunnar but got lost in the linguistics problems. On 2021-08-01 9:39 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Dual boot'ed, > I forgot to tell you. > Thus the sucker(?) can sit 'alone' in

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Hi, On 2021-08-01 9:58 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > I expected that answer. > Debian is still 1/2 of it, but kinda dysfunctional, cos of me & scam > Trying to set up Debian in a VM in another Linux distro, with Chef > So I cannot really see irrelevance > of my question?? Like Nobody here knows

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 04:58:48PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > I expected that answer. > Debian is still 1/2 of it, but kinda dysfunctional, cos of me & scam > Trying to set up Debian in a VM in another Linux distro, with Chef > So I cannot really see irrelevance > of my question?? Like Nobody

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On Sunday, August 01, 2021 09:58:48 AM Gunnar Gervin wrote: > So I cannot really see irrelevance > of my question?? > Like Nobody here knows how to fix this one, cos it's > slightly out of D. Someone who uses Debian, maybe even someone who subscribes to this list might know how to fix your

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Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 04:30:45PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > Security. > > Rarely discussed in Linux(?).. Discussed all the time. > > After trying "all" workarounds, I installed another, more simple Linux > > distro, built up a new setup of relevant programs to

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I expected that answer. Debian is still 1/2 of it, but kinda dysfunctional, cos of me & scam Trying to set up Debian in a VM in another Linux distro, with Chef So I cannot really see irrelevance of my question?? Like Nobody here knows how to fix this one, cos it's slightly out of D. politics? Geg

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 04:30:45PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Security. > Rarely discussed in Linux(?).. > Was scammed recently; naive me let a man w/Bad accent take over my laptop > to 'help refund BTC' & make me pay 100$. > Because of that &/or me in Synaptic bloating (2 many) packages, which

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Dual boot'ed, I forgot to tell you. Thus the sucker(?) can sit 'alone' in a dysfunctional 1/2 of my PC, maybe 'he' never returns anyway. After built up all in 1 'secret' 1/2, I plan to re-partition the 1t half, to clean out 'all' dysfunctions, in a Linux, & Linux Debian 'answer' to Factory Reset,

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Security. Rarely discussed in Linux(?).. Was scammed recently; naive me let a man w/Bad accent take over my laptop to 'help refund BTC' & make me pay 100$. Because of that &/or me in Synaptic bloating (2 many) packages, which led to "1t fix broken packages", "put in Debian 10.9 Netinst cdrom", &

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Thomas Schmitt [2021-07-21 20:11:15] wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Plain old HDDs and SSDs also work for "immutable" backups: just don't >> keep them connected to the host after you've done the backup. > But how do you keep the system from messing them up during the first > backup after the

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Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Of course, if the time between the moment the malware takes > control and the moment when you notice it is longer than your rotation > you might be in trouble, indeed (tho that depends on the details of how > the malware operates w.r.t removable media). With

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Thomas Schmitt [2021-07-21 19:00:48] wrote: > James H. H. Lampert wrote: >> "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? > Yes. BD-R single layer are affordable and can take 25 GB each. With some > compression you can put the whole operating system and the most important >

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 12:27 PM Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 09:36:37AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? > > ... > OS/400 was before my time, but I have a limited experience with z/VM > which ran at z9 mainframe about 10 years

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:00:04 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:38:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: ... > > Most, yes. But the pwn2own hackers, for example, seem to pretty > > routinely get RCE on the major browsers, so I wouldn't bet my data that > > ransomware authors won't as well: >

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On 22/07/21 3:38 am, Reco wrote: One sure way to beat ransomware is to take immutable backups That's fine if keeping access to your data is all you care about. With the more modern ransomware that threatens to publish your (and/or your customers') data, not so much. Richard

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:38:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > > https://hacked.com/linux-ransomware-notorious-cases-and-ways-to-protect/ > > > > > > > > Requires Java to be installed. A rare case on a Linux *desktop*. > > > > > > Rare? I don't have statistics, but on one of my Linux desktops,

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:38:30 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > >

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Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Plain old HDDs and SSDs also work for "immutable" backups: just don't > keep them connected to the host after you've done the backup. But how do you keep the system from messing them up during the first backup after the malware took over ? Reco wrote before i asked

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Hi. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:12:52PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-21 12:36 p.m., James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? > > Enormous decks of Hollerith cards? Enormous reels of punched paper

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 09:36:37AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? In a dull enterprise world they usually used tape libraries for that. It's not popular these days, but still used here and there. "Cloud backups" are getting their share,

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Hi, On 2021-07-21 12:36 p.m., James H. H. Lampert wrote: > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? > Enormous decks of Hollerith cards? Enormous reels of punched paper tape? > There's only one real type of very effective immutable backup : Stone, Pick and Hammer And

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Hi, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? Yes. BD-R single layer are affordable and can take 25 GB each. With some compression you can put the whole operating system and the most important user data onto a single medium. BD-R is also

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"Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? Enormous decks of Hollerith cards? Enormous reels of punched paper tape? So far as I'm aware, there is *only one* operating system currently in wide use, that has never been successfully infected with malware outside of

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 10:38 AM Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > > > > browsers are just full of vulnerabilities, > > True. Every version of Chromium and Firefox fixes at least one. > Most of said

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Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > Numbers show that I was incorrect. Let's call it "unlikely" instead of > "rare". Let the popcon graphs speak for themselves: > > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=firefox-esr > vs >

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > > > Reco wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > You cannot catch

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > You cannot catch a ransomware cryptolocker using Linux on a desktop, > > > > Of course you

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Hi. On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > ... > > > You cannot catch a ransomware cryptolocker using Linux on a desktop, > > Of course you can, although it's certainly much less likely than when > using Windows.

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 Reco wrote: ... > You cannot catch a ransomware cryptolocker using Linux on a desktop, Of course you can, although it's certainly much less likely than when using Windows. > it's definitely Windows-only kind of software. In fact, any FOSS OS has > this

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Hi, On 2021-07-15 7:01 a.m., Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:26:58 -0400 > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > (...) >> Also can you find me one Linux distribution that is certified as medical >> equipment for reliability ? > >

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Hi, On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:26:58 -0400 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: (...) > Also can you find me one Linux distribution that is certified as medical > equipment for reliability ? https://www.behnk.de/fully-automated-systems/ These lab machines run with debian (at least the

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On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:27:25AM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:18 +0800 > jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > You can't be seriously suggesting Windows is certified for any risk > > of life application!? > > > > It has a huge spectrum of vulnerabilities and a constant stream of > >

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:18 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > You can't be seriously suggesting Windows is certified for any risk > of life application!? > > It has a huge spectrum of vulnerabilities and a constant stream of > zero day exploits for both the O/S Yes, but most of them were placed

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On 15/7/21 4:00 pm, Weaver wrote: On 15-07-2021 17:48, ellanios82 wrote: On 7/15/21 2:03 AM, jeremy ardley wrote: suggesting Windows is certified for any risk of life application!? It has a huge spectrum of vulnerabilities  - believe wikipedia had mention : 100% of world's

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On 15-07-2021 17:48, ellanios82 wrote: > On 7/15/21 2:03 AM, jeremy ardley wrote: >> suggesting Windows is certified for any risk of life application!? >> >> It has a huge spectrum of vulnerabilities > > > >  - believe wikipedia had mention : 100% of world's super-computers run on > Linux

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On 7/15/21 2:03 AM, jeremy ardley wrote: suggesting Windows is certified for any risk of life application!? It has a huge spectrum of vulnerabilities  - believe wikipedia had mention : 100% of world's super-computers run on Linux  rgds .

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On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 06:26:58PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Him > > On 2021-07-14 3:42 p.m., ellanios82 wrote: > > On 7/14/21 9:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice > >> software.  I don't know of any linux

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jeremy ardley [2021-07-15 07:03:18] wrote: > On 15/07/2021 6:26 am, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Also can you find me one Linux distribution that is certified as medical >> equipment for reliability ? > You can't be seriously suggesting Windows is certified for any risk of life >

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On 2021-07-14 9:58 p.m., Weaver wrote: > On 15-07-2021 11:53, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi, >>> >>> Have you even considered options such as: >>> >>> https://tinyurl.com/42km8b6n >>> >> Can you please tell me one thing... >> Does what you just showed me does the following : >> >>

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Hi, > To be certified (by who?) a piece of equipment with a specific > configuration for a specific purpose is chosen. 'Windows' can never be > certified on its own - just as 'Linux' can never be certified. > To by certified by who ? The payment agency who send my check ;-)

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On 15-07-2021 11:53, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, >> >> Have you even considered options such as: >> >> https://tinyurl.com/42km8b6n >> > Can you please tell me one thing... > Does what you just showed me does the following : > > 1. Manage my health record for my client. > 2. Same

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Hi, > > Have you even considered options such as: > > https://tinyurl.com/42km8b6n > Can you please tell me one thing... Does what you just showed me does the following : 1. Manage my health record for my client. 2. Same time as I enter my note into the clients file, code the medical act I've

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On 15-07-2021 11:43, Stefan Monnier wrote: > jeremy ardley [2021-07-15 07:03:18] wrote: >> On 15/07/2021 6:26 am, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Also can you find me one Linux distribution that is certified as medical >>> equipment for reliability ? >> You can't be seriously suggesting

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On Wednesday 14 July 2021 20:32:27 Weaver wrote: and I snipped to the important part: > On 15-07-2021 09:32, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > But FOSS has no impact on the benefits to this solution, moral is > > not part of it. > > Wrong! > The code is open so any intervention is

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On 15-07-2021 09:32, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-14 6:58 p.m., Weaver wrote: >> On 15-07-2021 08:30, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 2021-07-14 3:54 p.m., Weaver wrote: On 15-07-2021 05:42, ellanios82 wrote: > On 7/14/21 9:27 PM,

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On 15/07/2021 7:40 am, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: On 15/07/2021 6:26 am, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Also can you find me one Linux distribution that is certified as medical equipment for reliability ? You can't be seriously suggesting Windows is certified for any

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Hi, Why do we mostly have iPhone ? Because the software aren't available on Android and the ones that are available ain't same quality ! On 2021-07-14 6:58 p.m., Weaver wrote: > On 15-07-2021 08:30, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-07-14 3:54 p.m., Weaver wrote: >>> On

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On 15/07/2021 6:26 am, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Also can you find me one Linux distribution that is certified as medical equipment for reliability ? You can't be seriously suggesting Windows is certified for any risk of life application!? It has a huge spectrum of

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On 15-07-2021 08:30, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-14 3:54 p.m., Weaver wrote: >> On 15-07-2021 05:42, ellanios82 wrote: >>> On 7/14/21 9:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice software. I don't

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On 2021-07-14 5:08 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:54:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote: >> >>> On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> Off topic reply for sure. >>> >>> [Reply snipped] >>>

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Hi, On 2021-07-14 3:54 p.m., Weaver wrote: > On 15-07-2021 05:42, ellanios82 wrote: >> On 7/14/21 9:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: >>> Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice >>> software. I don't know of any linux software that could replace that >>> software

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Him On 2021-07-14 3:42 p.m., ellanios82 wrote: > On 7/14/21 9:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: >> Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice >> software.  I don't know of any linux software that could replace that >> software either.  Could it be some software house would

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This is a start but there's not much for the day to day practice. You have health record management but it's unable to operate with other system. But there's also great stuff like the possibility to analyze CT scan and MRI. The tools are mostly oriented for research and not so much for practice

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Hi, On 2021-07-14 2:27 p.m., Jude DaShiell wrote: > Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice > software. I don't know of any linux software that could replace that > software either. Could it be some software house would be able to get > linux versions available

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On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:54:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Off topic reply for sure. > > > > [Reply snipped] > > > > Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you

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On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote: > On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > Off topic reply for sure. > > [Reply snipped] > > Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before > you pop your clogs? :) Of coarse Brian, would you

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On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Off topic reply for sure. [Reply snipped] Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before you pop your clogs? :) -- Brian.

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On Wednesday 14 July 2021 10:40:03 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-14 8:23 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote: > > ellanios82 wrote: > >>  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good > >> investors, for the reason that they are used to usually being > >> 'Right' > >

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On 15-07-2021 05:42, ellanios82 wrote: > On 7/14/21 9:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: >> Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice >> software. I don't know of any linux software that could replace that >> software either. Could it be some software house would be able

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On 7/14/21 9:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice software. I don't know of any linux software that could replace that software either. Could it be some software house would be able to get linux versions available and make some

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https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/ -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

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Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice software. I don't know of any linux software that could replace that software either. Could it be some software house would be able to get linux versions available and make some money?

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On Wed Jul 14 07:38:52 2021 Dan Ritter wrote: > ellanios82 wrote: >> >>  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good >> investors, for the reason that they are used to usually being >> 'Right' I've heard that surgeons can be particularly bad. > I'm not sure what this has to do

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Hi, On 2021-07-14 8:23 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote: > ellanios82 wrote: >> >>  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good investors, for >> the reason that they are used to usually being 'Right' >> > > I'm not sure what this has to do with Debian, but this overlaps > with my

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On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 03:35:18PM +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > On 7/14/21 3:23 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > ~ same reason that they are notable as bad pilots > > >   hah! : maybe Comedians? : Canadian Comic, Jim Carey , of 'the Mask' fame,  > is a Pilot , and pilots his own big Plane > And

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On 7/14/21 3:23 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: ~ same reason that they are notable as bad pilots   hah! : maybe Comedians? : Canadian Comic, Jim Carey , of 'the Mask' fame,  is a Pilot , and pilots his own big Plane  rgds

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ellanios82 wrote: > >  - have heard it opined that MDs & Dentists are seldom good investors, for > the reason that they are used to usually being 'Right' > I'm not sure what this has to do with Debian, but this overlaps with my professional interests. As far as I can tell, the reason that MDs