Re: Dial Script

1998-02-10 Thread Behan Webster
Tim Sailer wrote:
 
 I have a web page that people can use to page me on my numeric pager.
 It uses a very stupid program (npage) to dial the phone. I was wondering
 if someone has a better way, maybe perl, chat, a well written C program,
 etc. to do this.

I don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for, but the hylafax
program includes support for sending both faxes and pages.  Hylafax is a
very cool system once you get it working.

It might be too much for your needs however.

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Re: Installation XFree86 klappt nicht...

1998-02-10 Thread Martin Schulze
On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 12:11:14AM +0100, Gartzke wrote:

First of all you might not have noticed but this is an international
mailing list so only few people will be able to understand.  Well,
if I think of it a little bit longer I get the feeling that you're
using every mailing address you can find.  That's not a good idea
as some of them are dedicated to special user groups.

Apart from that I thought Georg has already answered your question.

 Speziell XFree86 will nicht laufen. Da auf der mir zu Verfuegung stehenden 
 Distribution (Debian 1.3.1) kein X-Server für meine Grafikkarte (Viper V 330 
 mit 
 Riva 128 Chip)ist habe ich von der S.u.s.e Homepage den Passenden Server 
 xnvidia.tgz sowie die xsuseconfig.tgz geladen und wie beschrieben mittels tar 
 entkomprimiert, was auch problemlos funktionierte.Leider war es anschließend 
 nicht moeglich, die Datei xf86xonfig zu starten. 

This seems to be a libc5 / libc6 problem.  As SuSE also ships XFree86
I also get the feeling that you're server should be located inside of
hamm's XFree86 packages.  This means that you have to install Debian
GNU/Linux 1.3.1 and upgrade to hamm.

You may easily use the auto-upgrade script from http://taz.net.au/autoup/
to upgrade the system from bo to hamm (libc5 to libc6).  You should
also read the Upgrade HOWTO at 
http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

After that you may install the new packages X-Servers that support your
graphics card.

 Eine testweise Installation des auf der Debian-CD befindlichen SVGA- bzw- VGA 
 16-Server mit nachfolgender Entkomprimierung Eurer Dateien fuehrte immerhin 
 dazu, dass die Datei xf86xonfig gestartet werden konnte und auch die Viper V 
 330 
 in der Liste(Nr. 145) auftauchte.
 Leider fuehrte der anschließende Start von startx nur zu Fehlermeldungen 
 (siehe 
 Anhang, Ausgabedatei x.out). 

This was already answered by Georg, missing files.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Dial Script

1998-02-10 Thread Tim Sailer
Behan Webster wrote:
 
 Tim Sailer wrote:
  
  I have a web page that people can use to page me on my numeric pager.
  It uses a very stupid program (npage) to dial the phone. I was wondering
  if someone has a better way, maybe perl, chat, a well written C program,
  etc. to do this.
 
 I don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for, but the hylafax
 program includes support for sending both faxes and pages.  Hylafax is a
 very cool system once you get it working.
 
 It might be too much for your needs however.

Yup.. I know Hylafax.. since it was FlexFax.. I was a beta tester for
Sam Leffler on $CO Unix many years ago. It's way overkill for my needs.
Right now, the command line I run to page myself looks like:

beep -n 555-1212555-1313 /dev/ttyS1

This will dial 555-1212, pause for 2 secs, (hoping the other end picks up)
and enters 555-1313 as the number that will show up on the pager. The program
has no concept of busy, no dialtone, etc... it looks for nothing from the
modem.. it just talks blind to it. Maybe I'll rape some code out of
mgetty.. dunno...

Tim

PS: Maybe kermit can be coerced into doing this..

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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread David E. Scott
George R wrote:
 Has anyone had Win95 change your CMOS settings?

George,
I don't know: how could I tell, unless it's evidence would be a mess up
of something obvious like my clock?

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-10 Thread David Stern
On Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:03:00 +0400, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:
 Sounds like a dooable crack.
 
 I see a cron.daily, weekly  monthly directory in /etc, with scripts in it,
 which I presume get executed daily weekly and month respectively.
 I'de like it to run every 6 hours. I tried read the cron  cron tab manpages,
 but I'm still clueless as to how to do this I can't find any howto's on
 this either. :(.
 
 Any pointers to doc files, (or actual help:), on this subject?

For things I might forget, I like to put reminder remarks in my files 
and align the columns for easy reading.  This is the for the system 
crontab, but the columns should be the same for all users (except for 
the `user' column, obviously).


# m h  dom mon dow   usercommand
 21 21 *   *   * rootrun-parts /etc/cron.daily
 31 21 *   *   0 rootrun-parts /etc/cron.weekly
 41 21 1   *   * rootrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly


m   minutes (0-59) 
h   hour (0-23)
dom day of month (0-32) 
mon month (1-12 or jan-dec)
dow day of week (0-6 or sun-sat)

commas may separate entries like so:


0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * /home/kotsya/.checkformail 1 /dev/null 2 /dev/null


asterisks of course match all

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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread George R
On 02/09/98 at 07:41 PM, David E. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

George R wrote:
 Has anyone had Win95 change your CMOS settings?

George,
   I don't know: how could I tell, unless it's evidence would be a mess up
of something obvious like my clock?

Weird things, like the drive you have on your secondary ide disappears. 
After checking the CMOS you find the secondary controller disabled.

If you have a CMOS controlled CPU speed, the speed changes after a lockup
and restart in safe mode.

Having the defaults loaded, even though you know some settings weren't
default.

George




 

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Viewing bootup message

1998-02-10 Thread tsnake
How can you view the entire list of messeges that show when you boot into
linux? It all either scrolls by too fast or too much read/decipher as it
rolls off the top. Is there a file that mirrors that output or someway I
can re-direct it to a file for perusal?
Thanks,
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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread George R
On 02/09/98 at 07:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerald V. Livingston lI) said:

Try replacing the CMOS battery.  I had one that would do strange  things
when I shut it off - I figured if the battery got low enough  it would
start going wierd on resets too.

Not the problem, unless of course 3 differant boxes all have bad
batteries, and it occurs mostly when Win95 freaks out, usually when
rebooting in safe mode due to improper shutdown.

Just one of many unexplained events MS certified techs tell me can't
happen, even if I reproduce the event before their eyes.  Blows my mind
when they watch me crash 95 and say that can't happen, it must be
hardware.  Then reproduce the crash on another box and hear that can't
happen, it must be some software.

Oh, well that's why I use other stuff at home.

George

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network status thru voice

1998-02-10 Thread A. M. Varon
Hi,

I would like our users to know if our local or international link to the
internet is up or down.

One solution I'm looking at is our users would dial a tel. no. and they
would be greeted with a voice saying the link is up or down.

Is there a program for this? Perl or C program would do?

regards,

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Re: Viewing bootup message

1998-02-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:11:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can you view the entire list of messeges that show when you boot into
 linux? It all either scrolls by too fast or too much read/decipher as it
 rolls off the top. Is there a file that mirrors that output or someway I
 can re-direct it to a file for perusal?

dmesg will show you the kernel stuff, eg dmesg | less. Most of 
it is in the logs in /var/log too. There's no way (that I know of)
to see all the non-kernel stuff.

Note that scroll lock will pause the display.

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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 07:52:19PM +, George R wrote:
 Weird things, like the drive you have on your secondary ide disappears. 
 After checking the CMOS you find the secondary controller disabled.
 
 If you have a CMOS controlled CPU speed, the speed changes after a lockup
 and restart in safe mode.
 
 Having the defaults loaded, even though you know some settings weren't
 default.

Well, anything can happen in a good-sized crash. Windows 95 can't
change individual settings because their locations aren't standardized
between BIOS manufacturers (AMI, Phoenix, Award, MR BIOS etc). Some
of the basic settings are (like hard drive types) but none of the
settings you spoke of are.


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Re: Viewing bootup message

1998-02-10 Thread Keith Beattie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How can you view the entire list of messeges that show when you boot into
 linux? It all either scrolls by too fast or too much read/decipher as it
 rolls off the top. Is there a file that mirrors that output or someway I
 can re-direct it to a file for perusal?
 Thanks,
 Chris
 

You are looking for the command:
  dmesg

Pipe it through your favoriate pager:
  dmesg | more
  dmesg | less
etc.

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Re: network status thru voice

1998-02-10 Thread Joey Hess
A. M. Varon wrote:
 I would like our users to know if our local or international link to the
 internet is up or down.
 
 One solution I'm looking at is our users would dial a tel. no. and they
 would be greeted with a voice saying the link is up or down.
 
 Is there a program for this? Perl or C program would do?

There's a package in debian (unstable) named festival that does voice
synthesis. That's part of what you want, but you'll have to figure out how
to get the sound out over the telephone, I guess.

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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread George R
On 02/10/98 at 01:47 PM, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Well, anything can happen in a good-sized crash. Windows 95 can't change
individual settings because their locations aren't standardized between
BIOS manufacturers (AMI, Phoenix, Award, MR BIOS etc). Some of the basic
settings are (like hard drive types) but none of the settings you spoke
of are.

Is this just Win95 or do other OS's mess with the CMOS?  In 10+ years I've
only experianced this with Win95.

Once again the answer to a weird Win95 question comes from a Linux user. 
Am I seeing a trend?

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Re: Dial Script

1998-02-10 Thread Jim Foltz
The qpage package may do what you need. It's in the unstable/net
directory.


On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 06:18:57PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
 I have a web page that people can use to page me on my numeric pager.
 It uses a very stupid program (npage) to dial the phone. I was wondering
 if someone has a better way, maybe perl, chat, a well written C program,
 etc. to do this.
 
 Thanks,
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Qddb or other databases

1998-02-10 Thread tmalloy
Has anyone installed qddb on debian.  Could you tell me the correct
changes to make to the Makefile.  Also I there is any significant reason
to prefer a different database(msql, mysql, adabas etc) I'd like to hear
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Re: StarOffice4.0 and Debian

1998-02-10 Thread Walter


 Original Messsage 

On 2/9/98, 6:09:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tony mollica) wrote regarding 
StarOffice4.0 and Debian:


 Has anyone installed StarOffice 4.0 on a Debian system yet and were
 there any problems to watch out for?

I installed the english version and it seems to work really well.  I 
had no problems.  I installed it for single user use only, so I can't 
comment on the multiuser installation script that is floating around.

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help with man-db

1998-02-10 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Hi.

I'm having problems with Motif man pages which I installed on my system.
If I run, say, man XmString I get the following error messages:

Reformatting XmString(3x), please wait...
zsoelim: /usr/X11R6/man/man3/XmString.3x:292: \\$1: No such file or
directory
zsoelim: \\$1.gz: No such file or directory
zsoelim: /usr/X11R6/man/man3/XmString.3x:292: warning: failed .so request
zsoelim: /usr/X11R6/man/man3/XmString.3x:329: /tmp/pI.tmp.: No such file
or directory
zsoelim: /tmp/pI.tmp..gz: No such file or directory
zsoelim: /usr/X11R6/man/man3/XmString.3x:329: warning: failed .so request
input in flex scanner failed

And then only part of the page is displayed.

Meanwhile, 
zcat /usr/X11R6/man/man3/XmString.3x.gz | groff -Tascii -tmandoc - | less
works perfectly.

If anyone have any idea on how to fix that, I would be very obliged.
I can send the example of the problem page, if needed.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: SCSI

1998-02-10 Thread Greg Green
Thanks Nathan!

You hit the nail on the head.  I was using the NCR7,8xx driver.  Once I
changed it to the NCR8xxx, the card was detected and the drives spun up.
Now, I am having problems with RAID5.  I can get RAID0 to work fine, but I
cannot figure out to get past a certain error message.

I get the following error when I try to #mdrun -p5 /dev/md0
  md:08:01:
invalid raid superblock magic (6c6c6c6c) on block 8886144
   /dev/md0:
invalid argument

Any clues on what I am doing wrong?

Let me know, and thanks for the help.

Greg Green
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Nathan E Norman wrote:

 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Greg Green wrote:

 : Hello all:
 :
 : I am having problems detecting my scsi drives.  I have three drives all
 : jumpered correctly and I recompiled the kernel for raid5, and also for
 : my correct scsi controller.  I installed the correct raid145 patch, and
 : raidtools, and the latest linuxthreads. The problem is that I cannot
 : mkfs or mdcreate on these drives. I cannot even fdisk them, I keep
 : getting unable to open /dev/sda.  The PC Bios detects the SCSI card on
 : boot up, but then Linux detects 0 scsi.  I have a NCR53875J SCSI
 : controller.
 : Below is my dmesg, I would appreciate any suggestions.
 : Thanks,
 : Greg Green

 You need to compile the correct driver into the kernel.  It is ncr8xx,
 not ncr7,8xx ... this drove me crazy for a day or two.  We're running an
 NCR53875 here, though I don't know if I like it yet.

 HTH

 : Below is my dmesg, I would appreciate any suggestions.
 :
 : Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
 : Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
 : pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fae70
 : pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb310
 : pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb340
 : Probing PCI hardware.
 : Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 59.80 BogoMIPS
 : Memory: 63160k/65536k available (772k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1220k
 : data)
 : Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
 : NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
 : Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
 : IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
 : VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
 :
 : Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
 :
 : Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
 : Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
 : moving IDT ...  ... done
 : Linux version 2.0.32 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Mon Feb 9
 : 07:11:26 MST 1998
 : Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
 : Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
 : tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 : tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 : PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
 : Real Time Clock Driver v1.07
 : ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
 : ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
 : ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
 : hda: ST32140A, 2015MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=1023/64/63
 : hdc: 655A, ATAPI CDROM drive
 : ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
 : ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
 : Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
 : FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
 : md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
 : linear personality registered
 : raid0 personality registered
 : raid1 personality registered
 : raid5 personality registered
 : scsi : 0 hosts.
 : scsi : detected total.
 : PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
 : TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of
 : California
 : PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
 : PPP line discipline registered.
 : eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0x6100, 00:60:08:04:3c:f8, IRQ
 : 11
 :   8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/MII interface.
 : eth0: MII transceiver found at address 24.
 :   Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
 : eth0: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is
 : 248.
 : 3c59x.c:v0.46C 10/14/97 Donald Becker
 : http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
 : Partition check:
 :  hda: hda1 hda2  hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 
 : VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
 : Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
 : Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $
 : eexpress.c: Module autoprobe not recommended, give io=xx.
 : loading device 'eth1'...
 : eexpress.c: Failed to register card at 0x0.
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StarOffice and Debian (2)

1998-02-10 Thread tony mollica
Thanks for the info to those who posted.  Now that I know StarOffice 4.0
will install and work, has any of you installed version 4.0 over a
StarOffice 3.1 installation or would it be better to remove as much of
the 3.1 stuff as possible?


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1998-02-10 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
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These are now commented out, and I was wondering if this was due to
improvements in the networking code, and no longer applicable?

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Re: How do I convert data e-mailed from a mac?

1998-02-10 Thread Joel Klecker
At 14:19 -0500 1998-02-09, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  jpmaster.dvi
 This is a application/mac-binhex40

Check out the program frommac in the macutils package (which
contains all sorts of utilities for converting to/from binhex and
macbinary formats).

No, 'frommac' is a serial file transfer utility, 'hexbin' decodes binhex.

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Re: StarOffice

1998-02-10 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
try this site, it is a lot more responsive
ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/linux/packages/staroffice4/final/01

regards
kusuma

Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
 
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  I keep seeing posts regarding StarOffice. Where can I get this?
 
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 http://www.on-line.de/~michael.hoennig/AutoMultiUserSetupForSO40Linux.tar
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Re: network status thru voice

1998-02-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 06:51:09PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
 A. M. Varon wrote:
  I would like our users to know if our local or international link to the
  internet is up or down.
  
  One solution I'm looking at is our users would dial a tel. no. and they
  would be greeted with a voice saying the link is up or down.
  
  Is there a program for this? Perl or C program would do?
 
 There's a package in debian (unstable) named festival that does voice
 synthesis. That's part of what you want, but you'll have to figure out how
 to get the sound out over the telephone, I guess.

You can probably convince vgetty (a modified mgetty for voice) to do this
for you, although I've always found it too hard to find sufficient
documentation to get it running. It would play pre-recorded sounds for you.


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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:56:49PM +, George R wrote:
 On 02/10/98 at 01:47 PM, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Well, anything can happen in a good-sized crash. Windows 95 can't change
 individual settings because their locations aren't standardized between
 BIOS manufacturers (AMI, Phoenix, Award, MR BIOS etc). Some of the basic
 settings are (like hard drive types) but none of the settings you spoke
 of are.
 
 Is this just Win95 or do other OS's mess with the CMOS?  In 10+ years I've
 only experianced this with Win95.

Well, Windows 95 has only been out for two and a half so that could be 
difficult! :-) But in nearly 10 years I've never seen anything do it at all.

If certain junk gets written to the appropriate IO ports the CMOS will
get trashed. I can't think of a reason why Windows 95 in particular
would cause this more than other systems, but there might be a reason
and it's not necessarily a Microsoft plot either.

 Once again the answer to a weird Win95 question comes from a Linux user. 
 Am I seeing a trend?

I don't understand what you mean.


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Re: samba/win95

1998-02-10 Thread Antonio Doldo
At 22.42 07/02/98 -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
When I set samba to USER mode, it doesn't accept passwords from windows
machines.. It works from linux machines..  I'm using encrypted password
and the lastest samba release.


I believe that the problem is simply in the login in win95 network
(netbeui, ipx/spx,
TCP/IP) because the line 'security=user' in the smb.conf presume
that the account on the server samba must be identical on both machines.
perhaps there is another possibility: you can use the username.map
in the samba config

Another problem is that the $IPC resource isn't public, so windows
computer won't browse the shares..

Everything works in SHARE mode; unfortunately, I need to use user mode.
Anyone have this problem?  How can I fix this?

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Upgrading from libc5 to libc6

1998-02-10 Thread JASON ISH
I'm upgrading a fairly new bo system to hamm following the libc5 to libc6 howto.

I've run into a problem when it comes to install libc6_2.0.6-3.deb as it 
reports a conflict with libc5.  So I did as the HOWTO says and downloaded the 
older version of libc5 from the link in the HOWTO - 
libc5_5.4.33-3.deb and installed that, and repeated to install the new libc6, 
but still got the conflict.

Where should I go from here, would it be safe to force the install?

Is it safe to shutdown my system considering I've already upgraded ldso, but 
have been unable to upgrade to libc6 yet.

Thanks for any info

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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread George R
On 02/10/98 at 06:33 PM, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:56:49PM +, George R wrote:
 
 Is this just Win95 or do other OS's mess with the CMOS?  In 10+ years I've
 only experianced this with Win95.

Well, Windows 95 has only been out for two and a half so that could be 
difficult! :-) But in nearly 10 years I've never seen anything do it at
all.

Well, I've only messed with 95 for a few months.  DOS, OS/2, Win3.x didn't
ever do that and Win3.x seemed to major in unstable.

If certain junk gets written to the appropriate IO ports the CMOS will
get trashed. I can't think of a reason why Windows 95 in particular would
cause this more than other systems, but there might be a reason and it's
not necessarily a Microsoft plot either.

Hadn't considered a MS plot.

Hanlon's razor:  
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.


 Once again the answer to a weird Win95 question comes from a Linux user. 
 Am I seeing a trend?

I don't understand what you mean.

Well, in various Linux newsgroups, MS supporters troll/advocate WinXX as
being stable/wonderful.  Some non-windows user brings up problem xyz that
caused their exodus from MS.  The MS drone claims it can't happen, the
complainer is an idiot.  Some Linux user(fairly new convert) then give the
why it happened and how(if possible) to minimize/prevent it from happening
again.

So, the trend seems to be:  bang your head against MS until you have the
answers to the problems that can be fixed and the thing still crashes. 
Then go find something else(Linux being a popular choice).

George

 

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Re: ddd doesn't do a thing

1998-02-10 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
 Some time ago I upgraded to ddd-2.1.1 with lesstifg-0.82-4, and ever
 since, ddd doesn't do a dd thing anymore. It starts up, and that's it.
 I can't even open a menu to open a file, or typw in the console window.
 Anybody knows how to fix this? I really start to miss my debugger

Maarten, what's the precise version number of ddd? You say lesstifg, so I
presume it's 2.1.1-5 (as that is the only 2.1.1 that's libc6). DDD needed to
be changed for use with libc6. The first change was in 2.1.1-5, but there 
was a second change in 2.2-1 relating to this.

Unfortunately, there are still severe problems in LessTif (X lockups and
memory leaks), so there's no LessTif-using DDD that I can guarantee to works
fine. I'm still looking for a new LessTif maintainer (I don't really have
the expertise to maintain it)...

Basically, there are three options you can consider:
- Use ddd-smotif (or ddd-dmotif if you have motif) from contrib, which
  doesn't use LessTif, and should be OK.
- Use the latest DDD from unstable (2.2.3-1). This should fix the doesn't
  do anything problem, but still has LessTif problems.
- Downgrade to ddd_2.1.1-1 (in bo-updates).

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Re: hdd problems

1998-02-10 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Did you tag the Drive/partition you want to boot as active?

On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Well it sounds like LILO is trying to boot from the wrong partition. Or,
 perhaps the kernel is loading but the root device is wrong. I'm guessing
 this is the case since I wouldn't expect very elaborate messages such as you
 site below from LILO. When you get to where LILO prints hit scroll-lock to get
 the prompt and type:
 
 Linux root=/dev/hda1
 
 where 'Linux' is the name of your linux image (if you don't know what the name
 of the image is you can hit TAB at the prompt to get a list of images) and
 /dev/hda1 is the device path of your root partition. Once you get booted up
 look at your /etc/lilo.conf file. There should be a 'root=...' line in it
 which is probably incorrect.
 
 As to the BIOS detection, it probably still wants to find two drives. Go into
 the BIOS setup and tell it there's no secondary drive and it'll be happy.
 
 Ian Keith Setford wrote:
 
  Yo-
 
  I recently removed my Windows drive from a machine that runs Debian 95%
  of the time.  The previous arrangement was as follows:
  /dev/hdaWindows (master primary controller)
  /dev/hdbDebian  (slave primary controller)
  /dev/hdcCD-ROM  (master secondary controller)
 
  I removed /dev/hda (Windows) and switched the Debian drive cable and
  set the jumper to master.  I *thought* I was thinking ahead when I
  re-configured LILO to boot from the actual Linux drive instead of from the
  boot sector on the Windows drive.  I ran /sbin/lilo and I also configured
  fstab before I physically removed the drive.
 
  After removal Linux will not boot.  The BIOS detection of the HDD also
  takes about 2 minutes whereas previously it took about 5-10 seconds.
  Debian error says, DMA reset, irq timeout {SEEK ... SEEK ... }' etc..
 
  I am unsure of what is actually wrong.  I also booted with a rescue disk
  and a boot disk but both will die with error, Unable to open Initial
  Console.
 
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Failing to install on an FIC-PA2007 mb with an AMD K6-166

1998-02-10 Thread gormans
product: Debian 1.3.1 CD

Problem:
Various halts and core dumps to the screen during the boot phase.

Symtoms:

When booting from thr CD the boot screen comes up ok, then pressing return
the boot will abort. This is not allways in the same place. Note: if it
type in rescue, then the boot will continue to the point where it tries to
mount the boot partion, then fails. This is a clean system with no disk
partitions on the drive at all. Also, the RedHat Linux version will get
past the boot phase (but, it falls over elsewhere ... but they state that
they dont support the K6). I have followed the notes on the CD, and the
BIOS has all the caches turned off, and not shadowing of devices.

System:

Board:  FIC PA-2007 - 1mb on board cache
CPU:AMD K6-166
mem:32mb SDRAM
HD: Quantum Fireball St2.1
CD: Toshiba 24x


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latex2html problem

1998-02-10 Thread Martin Pelikan
Hi,

I've got debian 1.3 distribution and I just cannot make latex2html work.
It doesn't covert equations to gif files correctly, gifs remail of zero
length. Here's the part of output from latex2html:

...
(- 2531_image049) tex.prospecial.pro[49] (- 2531_image050)
tex.pro
special.pro[50results.onemax.psresults.onemax.ordering.ps]
GSRunning ppmquant for img8.gif
Writing img8.gif
giftopnm: error reading magic number
Error: No such file or directory
No GIF file!
Could not make img8.gif transparent: Illegal seek
GSRunning ppmquant for img45.gif
Writing img45.gif
giftopnm: error reading magic number
Error: No such file or directory
sh: /usr/bin/pbmmake: No such file or directory
sh: /usr/bin/pnmcat: No such file or directory
sh: /usr/bin/ppmtogif: No such file or directory
Error: Illegal seek
No GIF file!
Could not make img45.gif transparent: Illegal seek
GSRunning ppmquant for img9.gif
Writing img9.gif
...


what might be the problem?

thanx for help

Martin


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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread Igor Grobman

Well, I must confirm.  Every time I reinstall win95, it reenables the default 
APM configuration in my BIOS, and I don't even have a standard one, but rather 
the obscure Acer BIOS.  This behaviour has been very consistent, and I can 
easily reproduce it.

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Re: Failing to install on an FIC-PA2007 mb with an AMD K6-166

1998-02-10 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 12:14:23PM -, gormans wrote:
 Problem: Various halts and core dumps to the screen during the boot phase.
 
 Symtoms: When booting from thr CD the boot screen comes up ok, then
 pressing return the boot will abort. This is not allways in the same
 place.

This sounds a lot like hardware problems. It could be CPU related, but it
could also have to do with other parts of your hardware. Check out
http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ for a list of potential causes to similar
problems.

HTH,
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Re: latex2html problem

1998-02-10 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 01:37:32PM +0100, Martin Pelikan wrote:
 sh: /usr/bin/pbmmake: No such file or directory
 sh: /usr/bin/pnmcat: No such file or directory
 sh: /usr/bin/ppmtogif: No such file or directory

 what might be the problem?

You don't appear to have netpbm installed, which latex2html needs in order
to convert LaTeX mathematics to graphic images.

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Re: Viewing bootup message

1998-02-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, tsnake wrote:

 How can you view the entire list of messeges that show when you boot into
 linux? It all either scrolls by too fast or too much read/decipher as it
 rolls off the top. Is there a file that mirrors that output or someway I
 can re-direct it to a file for perusal?
 Thanks,
 Chris

Although dmesg and /var/log/messages are useful, the best method of 
seeing *everything* is to use Shift-PageUp/Down. This is always present 
in VCs just so long as you look before you switch to another VC (which 
throws away everything above the top of the screen).

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What browser to use under Linux?

1998-02-10 Thread charles_read

What browsers have had good success under Linux?
Where can I get one?

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Re: What browser to use under Linux?

1998-02-10 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
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On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 What browsers have had good success under Linux?


Netscape Navigator and Comunicator are the most used ones
also for text-only mode lynx is very good, wich also doesn't requiere the
amount of memory wich netscape wants...

 Where can I get one?

They are provided as .deb packages at your prefered debian mirror

Regards,

Ulisses

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Problems with CD-ROM by installing Debian.Linux

1998-02-10 Thread WALTER HOLUBARZ
I want to install Debian.Linux from my MITSUMI FX001D CD-ROM with an own
controller-card on the isa bus. From the DRIVER-DISK, i created, i have used
the -mcdx MITSUMI-driver.

 mcdx (MITSUMI CD-ROM) installed at 0x300,irq11 (FIRMWARE version D2)

cd /dev  rm -f cdrom  in -s mcdx0 cdrom

Installation succeeded

 If i want to install the base from cd-rom linux told me to install
cd-rom-driver. I answerd done from the modules of the driver-disk without
installing them again. By the try to read from cd the following Error-warning
received:


mount:/dev/cdrom: can`t read superblock

The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully!

 After the 20th try to install debian.Linux i`m destroyed and i think i need
every help i can get. I use a VLB-I/O-Card and the secundary port is free, but
i don`t know if that works together?? Thank You very much for Your help
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Re: Viewing bootup message

1998-02-10 Thread Lindsay Allen


On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:11:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How can you view the entire list of messeges that show when you boot into
  linux? It all either scrolls by too fast or too much read/decipher as it
  rolls off the top. Is there a file that mirrors that output or someway I
  can re-direct it to a file for perusal?
 
 dmesg will show you the kernel stuff, eg dmesg | less. Most of 
 it is in the logs in /var/log too. There's no way (that I know of)
 to see all the non-kernel stuff.


I could shift/page right back to the bios messages after startup until I
upgraded svgatextmode (currently Version: 1.8-4.)  Now I cannot go back
past whatever is on the screen when svgatextmode starts.  Has anyone got a
fix for this?

 
 Note that scroll lock will pause the display.
 
 Hamish

Lindsay

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Re: SCSI

1998-02-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Greg Green wrote:

: Thanks Nathan!
: 
: You hit the nail on the head.  I was using the NCR7,8xx driver.  Once I
: changed it to the NCR8xxx, the card was detected and the drives spun up.
: Now, I am having problems with RAID5.  I can get RAID0 to work fine, but I
: cannot figure out to get past a certain error message.
: 
: I get the following error when I try to #mdrun -p5 /dev/md0
:   md:08:01:
: invalid raid superblock magic (6c6c6c6c) on block 8886144
:/dev/md0:
: invalid argument
: 
: Any clues on what I am doing wrong?
: 
: Let me know, and thanks for the help.
: 
: Greg Green
: AdvantageCom

Did you use mdcreate (IIRC) when you created your raid array?  I've
never run any raid level other than 0 (using the md driver, anyway) so I
can't be of much help in the way of practical experience.  However, I do
remember that my raid 0 arrays never worked unless I used mdcreate and
let it make the mdtab, etc. ...

There's a mailing list for linux raid.  I believe the name of the list
is linux-raid ... hmm, is it at vger?  I forget.  The address is in the
md docs, at any rate.  I don't have them handy.

Good luck!

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Re: Problems with CD-ROM by installing Debian.Linux

1998-02-10 Thread sung hyung Woo

 Hi!

 If you compile the kernel, solved the problem

 Reading, Kernel HOWTO..



WALTER HOLUBARZ (Tel 31423) 작성함:

 I want to install Debian.Linux from my MITSUMI FX001D CD-ROM with an own
 controller-card on the isa bus. From the DRIVER-DISK, i created, i have used
 the -mcdx MITSUMI-driver.

  mcdx (MITSUMI CD-ROM) installed at 0x300,irq11 (FIRMWARE version D2)

 cd /dev  rm -f cdrom  in -s mcdx0 cdrom

 Installation succeeded

  If i want to install the base from cd-rom linux told me to install
 cd-rom-driver. I answerd done from the modules of the driver-disk without
 installing them again. By the try to read from cd the following Error-warning
 received:

 mount:/dev/cdrom: can`t read superblock

 The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully!

  After the 20th try to install debian.Linux i`m destroyed and i think i need
 every help i can get. I use a VLB-I/O-Card and the secundary port is free, but
 i don`t know if that works together?? Thank You very much for Your help
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Re: SCSI

1998-02-10 Thread Greg Green
Ok thanks.  I did use mdcreate, but still no dice.  I will check out the mailing
list.

Thanks again for your help.

Greg



Nathan E Norman wrote:

 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Greg Green wrote:

 : Thanks Nathan!
 :
 : You hit the nail on the head.  I was using the NCR7,8xx driver.  Once I
 : changed it to the NCR8xxx, the card was detected and the drives spun up.
 : Now, I am having problems with RAID5.  I can get RAID0 to work fine, but I
 : cannot figure out to get past a certain error message.
 :
 : I get the following error when I try to #mdrun -p5 /dev/md0
 :   md:08:01:
 : invalid raid superblock magic (6c6c6c6c) on block 8886144
 :/dev/md0:
 : invalid argument
 :
 : Any clues on what I am doing wrong?
 :
 : Let me know, and thanks for the help.
 :
 : Greg Green
 : AdvantageCom

 Did you use mdcreate (IIRC) when you created your raid array?  I've
 never run any raid level other than 0 (using the md driver, anyway) so I
 can't be of much help in the way of practical experience.  However, I do
 remember that my raid 0 arrays never worked unless I used mdcreate and
 let it make the mdtab, etc. ...

 There's a mailing list for linux raid.  I believe the name of the list
 is linux-raid ... hmm, is it at vger?  I forget.  The address is in the
 md docs, at any rate.  I don't have them handy.

 Good luck!

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Re: Procmail, qmail and file locking

1998-02-10 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote:

 David Maslen writes:
   I'm a bit unsure if it's safe to use procmail with qmail.
 
 qmail only uses flock as a locking mechanism (no dotlocking). If your
 procmail binary also uses flock, there should be no problem. Try 'procmail -v'
 to check:
 
 Locking strategies: dotlocking, flock()

Please, note that Debian procmail -v says:

Locking strategies: dotlocking

as mandated by our policy.

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Dselect with floppy

1998-02-10 Thread Stefan Palm
I've just installed debian (kernel 2.0.29) on an IBM ThinkPad 360 which
neither has a CD-ROM nor a network connection (yet).
Therefore I wanted to use dselect with the floppy drive (/dev/fd0 -
msdos), but when I try to install new *.deb-files I get the following error
message:

end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 sector 0
mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device

Does anybody what's going wrong here?
TIA

Stefan





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Re: What browser to use under Linux?

1998-02-10 Thread Jens Ritter
Ulisses Alonso Camaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Netscape Navigator and Comunicator are the most used ones
 also for text-only mode lynx is very good, wich also doesn't requiere the
 amount of memory wich netscape wants...
 
  Where can I get one?
 
 They are provided as .deb packages at your prefered debian mirror


This is true for lynx, but not for netscape/communicator.  There is an
installer programm for the latter though.  But you have to download a
binary distribution of netscape for linux from a ftp.netscape.com
mirror yourself.  

Jens

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Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Tim Sailer
The powers-that-be around here have almost decided to scrap Slowaris x86
for the 200 machine PPro compouter farm, and go with Linux... 
I need to convince them to use Debian and not RH. They want to be able
to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine in the
farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199 and configure
it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no other
dist could do it!

Someone help me out here! This will be running the RHIC project in
1999 here.. I'd love to see Debian get that kind of exposure!

Tim

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CDE

1998-02-10 Thread Matej Grasic
Hello. I have aquestion about CDE.  
Is there a version of CDE for Debian (can I hope that it will be). 
OK. 
  Debian user:
  Matej Grasic


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Re: SCSI Controllers

1998-02-10 Thread mdorman
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I would highly recommend Buss Logic to anyone needing a SCSI interface.
 That's my impression as well.  I've also heard that for the truly
 performance crazed, DPT cards are the answer, but are also more
 expensive.
 
 ( This thread really should be moved to debian-user if continued. )

For low-cost, high-performance, well-maintained cards, though, I don't
think you can beat NCR.  ASUS has a Ultra-Wide card that you can find
for $120 that has been benchmarked (for all that's worth)
outperforming an Adaptec.

Mike.


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Re: Qddb or other databases

1998-02-10 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
I struggled with this question for quite a while.  What I wanted had
to satisfy the following criteria:

1. A decent license such as GPL or BSD-style.
2. Flexible and powerful.
3. Actively developed.

Only a handful of databases satisfy these criteria.  IMHO, Postgresql
seems to be the easiest and most mature.  I use it both locally and
remotely with the Roxen web server.  It not only satisfies my personal
database needs but also is a skill that I can market to small
businesses, etc.  I think the database/web server combination will
explode in popularity.

Sorry I cannot help you with Qddb.  Is it still being actively
developed?

Bake


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Re: What browser to use under Linux?

1998-02-10 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

  What browsers have had good success under Linux?

 
 Netscape Navigator and Comunicator are the most used ones
 also for text-only mode lynx is very good, wich also doesn't requiere the
 amount of memory wich netscape wants...

If it would take the mouse to select links, I would strongly prefer lynx in 
general.  Unless you really need the pictures, it's more stable, faster, and 
takes less memory.  Also, it doesn't force you to download those moronic maps 
full of links, but displays the links that netscape keeps hidden, and handles 
cookies far more intelligently--it allows the option of always or never 
accepting cookies from a site, as well as yes/no.


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Re: CDE

1998-02-10 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Matej Grasic wrote:

 Hello. I have aquestion about CDE.
 Is there a version of CDE for Debian (can I hope that it will be). 

CDE is commercial software.  You can buy a Linux version from RedHat and
convert the RPM using the alien package into a .deb to install.

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Xemacs and missing /usr/spool link

1998-02-10 Thread Norris Preyer
Hi all,
  I finally tracked down a problem with Xemacs19 and gnus, and hope
this can help someone else.  I'm tracking unstable, and generally
having very few problems (thanks!).  The past few days, however,
xemacs has refused to recognize that I have mail in my mailbox, and
gnus doesn't see it either.

Xemacs, gnus, and some other packages (efs, prim, reportmail, rmail,
crontab, and vm), all look for mail in /usr/spool/mail/user.  On
Debian systems, this is a symlink to /var/spool/mail/user, so all is
well.  This symlink seems to have been removed by some package
recently, however, and problems began developing.

Was this a deliberate policy decision?  I seem to have missed
discussion of it.  I currently have added a line to my .emacs (so
display-time will show the status of the mailbox):
  (setq rmail-spool-directory /var/spool/mail/)
and one to my .gnus:
  (setq nnmail-spool-file /var/spool/mail/npreyer)
and this works.  Or I could replace the /usr/spool link.  What's the
best way to handle this?

xemacs 19.16-1

Thanks!
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Re: On the fly compression with ext2

1998-02-10 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Ulisses Alonso Camaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi!
 
 I would like to know when there will be ext2 on the fly file
 compression, supported in the kernel, ext2 has already support but
 kernel seems to not support it yet, nor the 2.1.8x kernels...
 
 Does this will be introduced prior 2.2 version?

There is a Debian package called e2compr including a kernel patch and
an update chattr.

Package: e2compr
Essential: yes
Installed-Size: 337
Maintainer: Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 1.06-2
Replaces: e2fsprogs
Provides: e2fsprogs (= 1.06-2)
Pre-Depends: libc5 (= 5.4.0-0)
Conflicts: e2fsprogs
Size: 259884
Description: EXT2 utilities with support for Kernel level compression
 This is a modification of the regular e2fsprogs package adding tools
 for kernel level compression. Also contains the patch for the kernel.

Torsten

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latex2rtf - where is it?

1998-02-10 Thread Tony
I seem to to have a manpage for latex2rtf, but nothing that the system can 
find. Does anyone know which package it is in?

Tony


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Re: Dselect with floppy

1998-02-10 Thread C.J.LAWSON
I assume that /dev/fd0 exists (as you must have installed from them) (2)
is the diskette corrupt (3) what does your /etc/fstab look like?

-- Jonathan

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Stefan Palm wrote:

 I've just installed debian (kernel 2.0.29) on an IBM ThinkPad 360 which
 neither has a CD-ROM nor a network connection (yet).
 Therefore I wanted to use dselect with the floppy drive (/dev/fd0 -
 msdos), but when I try to install new *.deb-files I get the following error
 message:
 
 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 sector 0
 mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
 
 Does anybody what's going wrong here?
 TIA
 
 Stefan
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: On the fly compression with ext2

1998-02-10 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
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 There is a Debian package called e2compr including a kernel patch and
 an update chattr.

Hello Torsen

This is a great notice for me! thanks for your info!

It will help me a lot!

Regards,

Ulisses


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Re: latex2rtf - where is it?

1998-02-10 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tony wrote:

 I seem to to have a manpage for latex2rtf, but nothing that the system can 
 find. Does anyone know which package it is in?

Hate to do this, but it is in the latex2rtf package:) Now to be helpful -
I assume you mean man latex2rtf works, but there seems to be no
latex2rtf executable. Here's a few things to try to help track down the
problem:

try dpkg --status latex2rtf to see the status of the package. Maybe it
was removed but failed to erase the man page.

try whereis latex2rtf to search the whereis database to see if it lists
the executable. The output should look like 

cgowave-3-77:~/tsp/citibase$ whereis latex2rtf
latex2rtf: /usr/bin/latex2rtf /usr/lib/latex2rtf  /usr/man/man1/latex2rtf.1.gz

try find /usr -name latex2rtf to find the executable.

If the package is there but latex2rtf is not in the path (or the
executable is missing, etc) remove the package and reinstall it.

Cheers, Colin.

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Re: On the fly compression with ext2

1998-02-10 Thread Adam Klein
On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:40:23PM +0100, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
 Ulisses Alonso Camaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi!
  
  I would like to know when there will be ext2 on the fly file
  compression, supported in the kernel, ext2 has already support but
  kernel seems to not support it yet, nor the 2.1.8x kernels...
  
  Does this will be introduced prior 2.2 version?
 
 There is a Debian package called e2compr including a kernel patch and
 an update chattr.

But for some reason, the patch isn't included.

Adam Klein


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Interaction between SGI and Linux printing software

1998-02-10 Thread Ben Pfaff
I help to maintain a lab of SGI boxes.  Lately we've been having
trouble getting the printer, which is connected to a Linux box, to
print properly.  The pages come out backwards; i.e., reflected across
a line running vertically down the page.  The printer is an Apple
Color LaserWriter 12/600 PostScript; the SGIs are O2s running IRIX
6.4.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  If any more information would
be helpful, let me know.

Thanks in advance, 

Ben.


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Sendmail

1998-02-10 Thread T-SNAKE
I saw tons of smail stuff here... but I've descided to use sendmail. Are there
any resources other than usenet or buying the bat book where I can get info
about how to actually get it working right? It starts up upon boot, but I
can't seem to figure out much about setting it up RIGHT. I went through the
auto-setup during the dselect install process, but it's not doing what I
though it should... so I'm stuck. I'm not looking for a tutorial from the list
(unless some poor soul has already got one typed up for us bozos), but
something I can download and read along with as I set it up.
After that... I attack apache :}

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problem with StarOffice-4.0

1998-02-10 Thread James D. Freels
I have installed the new StarOffice-4.0 onto my stable (bo)
distribution of Debian/GNU Linux (1.3.1.r6).  When I startup via the
soffice script, I get the following messages followed by a
Segmentation Fault error.  Any idea what is the matter?


Environment
$XENVIRONMENT   
$DISPLAY:0.0
$SAL_VISUAL 
$SAL_FONTPATH   
/home/StarOffice-4.0/fonts/type1:/home/StarOffice-4.0/fonts/75dpi
$SAL_NOSEGV 
$SAL_IGNOREXERRORS  
$SAL_PROPERTIES 
$SAL_WM 
$SAL_SYNCHRONIZE
$XPPATH /home/StarOffice-4.0/xp3
Client
Hostfea
Display
Host:0.0
Vendor (Release)The XFree86 Project, Inc (3310)
shift ctrl alt  Shift_L (0xFFE1) Control_L (0xFFE3) Alt_L 
(0xFFE9)
XMaxRequestSize 262140 4194300 [bytes]
Properties  0x2FEB
Windowmanager   8
Screen
Resolution/Size 75*75 1280*1024 21.8
BlackWhite 0 65535
RGB 0xf800 0x7e0 0x1f
Visual  16-bit TrueColor ID=0x20
Images (Shared) 0x8000 (8000)

Segmentation fault
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PPTP for remote connection

1998-02-10 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Does anyone know about PPTP (Point-to-point Tunneling Protocol).
It's supposed to be a secure version of PPP (used on WinNT servers).

My employer just started using it, and my old PAP setup to dial-in from
home stopped working.

Do I need a new program instead of pppd?  

I also think (based on a sparse usenet search) that it won't run on 2.0.x
kernels, but only on  2.1.65 or so.

Any pointers appreciated...
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Packages Menus and debian user list

1998-02-10 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I HOPE that this message gets through to the list...
the last ones I sent were bounced back with a message about the SMTP
server I am using not stopping spammers
(I have been using the delphi one because my acount is on delphi and it
is a reliable one)
I am now attempting to use helix (a local network smtp sevrer that I
have no acount on..
yes I know that I don't need an acount to use SMTP...but I just like
using servers
that I have permission to use...not that the helix people here at work
would mind but..)
anyway
I have had a slight problem with menu (the package for making the
default menus in
the Debian Xwindows system)
I installe dthe GIMP from source (and also installed netscape from
netscapes own installer)
and wanted them on the menus...unfortunalty the menu program
works in conjuction with the package management system to make
sure a package is installed b4 processing its menus
GIMP and Netscape were locally installed...so..whats the PROPER way to
add default menus for them?
I solved the problem by saying that the package that the menu was for wa
sthe menu package itself
it seems like a working solution (I mean..menu itself HAS to be
installed fo rit to even
matter)
It works great but...I don't really LIK Ethat solution
it would be nice if there was a way to add package names and limited
info
(or is there already a way) for locally installed packages...
for example the Apache webserver that i compiled and installed from
source
is it just me? am I missing something?
-Steve


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Re: samba/win95

1998-02-10 Thread Paul Miller
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Antonio Doldo wrote:

 At 22.42 07/02/98 -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
 When I set samba to USER mode, it doesn't accept passwords from windows
 machines.. It works from linux machines..  I'm using encrypted password
 and the lastest samba release.
 
 
 I believe that the problem is simply in the login in win95 network
 (netbeui, ipx/spx,
 TCP/IP) because the line 'security=user' in the smb.conf presume
 that the account on the server samba must be identical on both machines.

I don't think the protocol changes in the security setting is changed.  My
Linux box currently doesn't even support ipx.. and I don't know about
netbeui...

 perhaps there is another possibility: you can use the username.map
 in the samba config

What is username.map?  Is it where samba checks the password against a
list of valid users?  That doesn't sound too secure.

-Paul


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Re: Dselect with floppy

1998-02-10 Thread Norris Preyer
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Stefan Palm wrote:
 
 I've just installed debian (kernel 2.0.29) on an IBM ThinkPad 360 which
 neither has a CD-ROM nor a network connection (yet).
 Therefore I wanted to use dselect with the floppy drive (/dev/fd0 -
 msdos), but when I try to install new *.deb-files I get the following error
 message:
 
 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 sector 0
 mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
 
 Does anybody what's going wrong here?
 TIA
 
 Stefan

IBM Thinkpads have some kind of weird floppy controller and you need
to add floppy=thinkpad to your lilo or loadlin command.  At least,
that's what people have said...it doesn't seem to help on my 380ED.

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No network to me..

1998-02-10 Thread Bruno Simoes
Hi all,
Please help me, i'm going crazy.
I'm installing Debian/Linux in a Pentium mmx 233, PnP BIOS,  just like a
several
pc's that i've done before.
The Network Card is 3com 3c905-TX PCI (it doesn't matter, because i
changed that card - NE2000 - and the problem didn't disappear), and its
drive is installed fine.
But this computer simply doesn't want to see the network. Nothing. It
doesn't
ping to nobody, no telnet, ftp, ...even to a computer on my local net. The
net card's lead is lightning ok.
I'm thinking the BIOS is bugging me.
:-?
Bruno
 


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Re: PPTP for remote connection

1998-02-10 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
No, it isn't any version of PPP. PPTP is what the name implies, a tunneling
protocol. That is, it allows you to pack IP packets inside of IP packets (and
supports encryption/authentication in the process). It is used to create
Virtual Private Networks and is unrelated to PPP. If your dial-in stopped
working set PPP to log packets and check them out. Perhaps your employer
switched from PAP to CHAP. Post the packet log back here and we'll have a
look-see.

Peter S Galbraith wrote:

 Does anyone know about PPTP (Point-to-point Tunneling Protocol).
 It's supposed to be a secure version of PPP (used on WinNT servers).

 My employer just started using it, and my old PAP setup to dial-in from
 home stopped working.

 Do I need a new program instead of pppd?

 I also think (based on a sparse usenet search) that it won't run on 2.0.x
 kernels, but only on  2.1.65 or so.

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Re: Sendmail

1998-02-10 Thread Steve Mayer
T-Snake,

  You may want to give www.sendmail.org a shot.  There is a lot of great
information on the site that should help out.

Steve Mayer
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T-SNAKE wrote:
 
 I saw tons of smail stuff here... but I've descided to use sendmail. Are there
 any resources other than usenet or buying the bat book where I can get info
 about how to actually get it working right? It starts up upon boot, but I
 can't seem to figure out much about setting it up RIGHT. I went through the
 auto-setup during the dselect install process, but it's not doing what I
 though it should... so I'm stuck. I'm not looking for a tutorial from the list
 (unless some poor soul has already got one typed up for us bozos), but
 something I can download and read along with as I set it up.
 After that... I attack apache :}
 
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Need help!

1998-02-10 Thread mr anonym
I'm installing it from 
ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/Debian-1.3/disks-i386/current/
and ive read and mostly understood the install.html file. But I just 
have 4 MB of RAM, when I get to the part when it stands:
This system has relevately low memory, special procedures are 
required

Here's what it looks like:
1.Run the disk partitioning program to add a linux swap (type 
82)And on..
2.Then initialize the swap partion.
3.Then initialize the temporary root partion.
4.Reboot.

I can choose these 2 options:
1.Run the disk partitioning program inorder to create a swap 
partition.
2.Reboot

When I type 1 I get here:

The following drives are available: Drives that are named /dev/hdx are 
IDE,
ATA, MFM, or RLL drives. Drives that are named /dev/sdX are SCSI 
drives.
   /dev/hda
Please type a driver name from the above list: 

I dont know what i should type here.

I will be very glad if someone could help me! 
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Re: CDE

1998-02-10 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Scott Ellis wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Matej Grasic wrote:
 
  Hello. I have aquestion about CDE.  
  Is there a version of CDE for Debian (can I hope that it will be). 
 
 CDE is commercial software.  You can buy a Linux version from RedHat and
 convert the RPM using the alien package into a .deb to install.

I just tried installing the RedHat CDE package into a Debian unstable
system.  It was compiled with an oldish version of libc5 and not libc6
which the unstable release is based on.  I was successful in
converting the rpm files to deb files using alien.  Unfortunately,
when I tried to start CDE using dtlogin, I received a core dump.  I
received no response from RedHat technical support.

Its a real pity that Debian doesn't have support for the primary
window enviornment used by all commercial UNIX vendors.  Maybe we
should try to work directly with TriTeal, the suppliers of CDE for
RedHat, a seperate package for Debian.

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Hunter H Marshall
Tim Sailer wrote:
 
 They want to be able
 to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine 

See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be
of help. The article concerned the use of 160
Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive
it was the Jan '98 issue.

http://www.ssc.com/lj/

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Re: Dselect with floppy

1998-02-10 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 This is the error message that is generated if you try to mount
the drive without a floppy in it.  The floppy must be in the drive
before it is mounted, and should not be removed before it is
unmounted. 

Bob

 On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Stefan Palm wrote:
 
  I've just installed debian (kernel 2.0.29) on an IBM ThinkPad 360 which
  neither has a CD-ROM nor a network connection (yet).
  Therefore I wanted to use dselect with the floppy drive (/dev/fd0 -
  msdos), but when I try to install new *.deb-files I get the following error
  message:
  
  end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 sector 0
  mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device


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RE: Problems with CD-ROM by installing Debian.Linux

1998-02-10 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
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I want to install Debian.Linux from my MITSUMI FX001D CD-ROM with an own
controller-card on the isa bus. From the DRIVER-DISK, i created, i have used
the -mcdx MITSUMI-driver.

Use mcd instead, I've never successed with mcdx but mcd works as a charm.



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www.Sendmail.org

1998-02-10 Thread T-SNAKE
 You may want to give www.sendmail.org a shot.  There is a lot of great
 information on the site that should help out.

Well, I've been to this site MANY times trying to see where it really fits in
with where I am and it doesn't seem to speak to me. There seems to be mostly
information that would only make sense to someone who already understands what
is going on, which wouldn't be me unfortunately. ;)
Half of the FAQs are broken and they don't seem to give rudimentary
setup/configuration help. I'll keep poking around, as always...
:)
Chris
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Re: No network to me..

1998-02-10 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Bruno Simoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,
 Please help me, i'm going crazy.
 I'm installing Debian/Linux in a Pentium mmx 233, PnP BIOS,  just like a
 several
 pc's that i've done before.
 The Network Card is 3com 3c905-TX PCI (it doesn't matter, because i
 changed that card - NE2000 - and the problem didn't disappear), and its
 drive is installed fine.
 But this computer simply doesn't want to see the network. Nothing. It
 doesn't
 ping to nobody, no telnet, ftp, ...even to a computer on my local net. The
 net card's lead is lightning ok.

Did you check ifconfig's and route's output?
I had a similar problem with a SMC. It was the Ram shadowing of
the BIOS. Turn off Shadow RAM completely. 

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Behan Webster
Hunter H Marshall wrote:
 
 Tim Sailer wrote:
 
  They want to be able
  to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine
 
 See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be
 of help. The article concerned the use of 160
 Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive
 it was the Jan '98 issue.
 
 http://www.ssc.com/lj/
 

Since Tim wants reason to use Debian instead of Redhat, and the article
you suggest talks of using Redhat, that probably won't be very helpful.

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Hunter H Marshall
Behan Webster wrote:
 
 Hunter H Marshall wrote:
 
  Tim Sailer wrote:
  
   They want to be able
   to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine
 
  See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be
  of help. The article concerned the use of 160
  Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive
  it was the Jan '98 issue.
 
  http://www.ssc.com/lj/
 
 
 Since Tim wants reason to use Debian instead of Redhat, and the article
 you suggest talks of using Redhat, that probably won't be very helpful.

I do not have the article in hand. I was afraid of
something like that!

:-{

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RE: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Tim Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to
each
machine in the farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199
and configure
it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no other
dist could do it!
Well...there are many many ways to do itand it depends on what the
setup is
How homogeneous are the machines?
for the most partif the hardware on em isn't terribly strange...
it would be littl emore than an issue of mirroring 1 hard drive image
over to
all of the machines
With a network setup that could be quite easy
Hell I just recently was moving from one PC to another
and I did a Drag and Dropjust took out the hard drive and pu tit
in the new
machine and boom...up came linux once the BIOS was happy
(486/DX66 from a 486SX/25 system...differnt amount of RAM, diff vid
card...)
There is  apcakage in debian that I have not played with but saw...which
allows you to setup
1 computer andinstall the package,...
then it makes a boot disk...goto any machine..pop in the boot disk...
no install..instant workstation!
and it is setup to do everything the server can do (by default)
then come questions...is there going to be a single network filesystem?
for the most part (as per the FHS)
you should be able to share /usr beween all machines (assuming the same
rchitecture of course)
same for /home etc
Suposedly redhat kickstart is suposed to be able to automate this...
but with a tiny bit more work it should be very easily doable with
debian
hmmm just a slightly evil thought
anyone tried
cat /dev/hda1  /dev/hdb1
assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types
-Steve


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Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-10 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Hello.

This mail is intended for the user who is running the current Debian
unstable distribution (a.k.a. hamm).

I'm the Debian maintainer who removed the /usr/spool symlink and some
other symlinks that were part of the `base-files' package...

Not only the FHS but also the old FSSTND says that the mail spool is
/var/spool/mail, so every program should look for mail there, not
in /usr/spool/mail.

Everything that the FSSTND and the FHS says about the symlink
/usr/spool - /var/spool is that it may be present (but it is not
mandatory).

It also says Once a system no longer requires any one of the above
symbolic links, the link may be removed, if desired.

Well, our goal for Debian 2.0 is obviously to comply with the standards,
so we *must* modify all our software to use /var/spool and not /usr/spool.

But then: How will we know which programs do not use /var/spool yet?
The answer is very simple: Just remove the symlinks and see which programs
break. Of course, this has to be done in *unstable*, where every
program may break.

So if a program breaks because it uses /usr/spool, *that* is a bug.

If you want to help us on this, you may report all those bugs through the
Debian bug tracking system, see /usr/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt or
http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs.

[ Of course, if you want to help us even more, you may take a look at
the bug database first to make sure that the bug is not already reported ].

As it is often said: I apologize for the inconvenience, etc. etc.

Thanks.

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RE: Xemacs and missing /usr/spool link

1998-02-10 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Norris Preyer wrote:
Debian systems, this is a symlink to /var/spool/mail/user, so all is
well.  This symlink seems to have been removed by some package
recently, however, and problems began developing.
I had the same problem with RedHat 4.1 when I tried to install a pop3
server
I don't know about debian policy (as much as I really like debian...im
not a big
fan of the policies)
re-inserting the sym link shouldn't hurt anything
IMHO I would suggest strongly leaving OUT the symlink
My rational: acording to the filesystem standards /var/spool
is proper and /usr/spool is not...thus leaving out the link breaks
packages which are wrong
This allows the problems to be found and fixed so that someday noone
will need the sym link
Thats what I did
I got the pop3d package from sunsite...
the docs said it looks in /var/spool/mail  ..the man page said
/var/spool/mail
it never worked...then I inserted the sym link and it worked again
I looked through the source and found that
the program looked for /usr/spool...
so I deleted the sym link and fixed the source...1 line of editing and
it worked again
unfortunatly I was unable to contact the maintainers of this particular
server...
and that was b4 my recent hard drive crash
so really...in truth (as it is YOUR system) its up to you
the question is do you want things to work the first time...
or to show up as broken and work right after you fix them?
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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Tim Sailer
Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 
 Tim Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to
 each
 machine in the farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199
 and configure
 it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no other
 dist could do it!

 Well...there are many many ways to do itand it depends on what the
 setup is
 How homogeneous are the machines?

They are going to be almost identical.

 for the most partif the hardware on em isn't terribly strange...
 it would be littl emore than an issue of mirroring 1 hard drive image
 over to
 all of the machines
 With a network setup that could be quite easy
 Hell I just recently was moving from one PC to another
 and I did a Drag and Dropjust took out the hard drive and pu tit
 in the new
 machine and boom...up came linux once the BIOS was happy
 (486/DX66 from a 486SX/25 system...differnt amount of RAM, diff vid
 card...)
 There is  apcakage in debian that I have not played with but saw...which
 allows you to setup
 1 computer andinstall the package,...
 then it makes a boot disk...goto any machine..pop in the boot disk...
 no install..instant workstation!
 and it is setup to do everything the server can do (by default)
 then come questions...is there going to be a single network filesystem?
 for the most part (as per the FHS)
 you should be able to share /usr beween all machines (assuming the same
 rchitecture of course)
 same for /home etc
 Suposedly redhat kickstart is suposed to be able to automate this...
 but with a tiny bit more work it should be very easily doable with
 debian

All that would work if you wanted to take the machines offline to
do that, but these machines are going to be handling 30MB/min of
streaming data for 6 months at a clip. There's no way that would work. :(

 hmmm just a slightly evil thought
 anyone tried
 cat /dev/hda1  /dev/hdb1
 assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types

Tried it... doesnt work.

Tim

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Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:

 But then: How will we know which programs do not use /var/spool yet?
 The answer is very simple: Just remove the symlinks and see which programs
 break. Of course, this has to be done in *unstable*, where every
 program may break.
 
 So if a program breaks because it uses /usr/spool, *that* is a bug.

how about this as a start:

#!/bin/sh

for i in /bin /sbin /sbin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R6/bin [...etc...] ; do
for j in $i/* ; do
strings -a $j | grep -q /usr/spool  echo $j uses /usr/spool
done
done


btw, i agree with removing the /usr/spool symlink.  programs that use
/usr/spool have to be found and fixed.


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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Jens Ritter
Hunter H Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Tim Sailer wrote:
  
  They want to be able
  to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine 
 
 See if the recent aricle in Linux Journal might be
 of help. The article concerned the use of 160
 Alpha Linux boxes for graphics rendering. I belive
 it was the Jan '98 issue.
 
 http://www.ssc.com/lj/

Look at http://www.ssc.com/lj/issue46/2494.html
They provided a master disk to the manufacturer who copied it to all
of the other machines. A script changed all the needed values (IP,
Hostname, etc.).

With debian you can use, dpkg --get-selections, dpkg --set-selections
and installation via ftp. A problem is, that you can`t leave the
installation process unattended, because you have to answer some
questions e.g. about precedence of mime applications or setup for x11.

AFIAK the new installation program will address this issue (questions
asked first, then installation, automatic setup for farms --- it`s
expected to come with Debian 2.1).

At the moment, copying the disks seems to be the best solution. 

HTH,

Jens
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libc5 (not libc6) by default? (was: CDE)

1998-02-10 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I just tried installing the RedHat CDE package into a Debian unstable
 system.  It was compiled with an oldish version of libc5 and not libc6
 which the unstable release is based on.  I was successful in
 converting the rpm files to deb files using alien.  Unfortunately,
 when I tried to start CDE using dtlogin, I received a core dump.  I
 received no response from RedHat technical support.
 
 Its a real pity that Debian doesn't have support for the primary
 window enviornment used by all commercial UNIX vendors.  Maybe we
 should try to work directly with TriTeal, the suppliers of CDE for
 RedHat, a seperate package for Debian.

I'm sure there is not the problem that the package is not *.deb.
The problem here is that it was not linked with specific major version
of libc. If you try to do ldd /path/to/some/CDE/executable/or/library
I bet that you'll get dependence on libc6. Same thing happens to my
Motif: libXm.so.2.0 seems to depend on libc6 while both of them used
libc5 headers. 

The solution is to configure shared lib loader to use libc5 by default.
If somebody can tell me how to do it, I would be very gratefull.

Thanks.

Alex Y.
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Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-10 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
 
  But then: How will we know which programs do not use /var/spool yet?
  The answer is very simple: Just remove the symlinks and see which programs
  break. Of course, this has to be done in *unstable*, where every
  program may break.
  
  So if a program breaks because it uses /usr/spool, *that* is a bug.
 
 how about this as a start:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 for i in /bin /sbin /sbin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R6/bin [...etc...] ; do
 for j in $i/* ; do
 strings -a $j | grep -q /usr/spool  echo $j uses /usr/spool
 done
 done

here's what a similar loop run on my /usr/bin reports:

# cd /usr/bin
# for i in * ; do strings -a $i | grep -q /usr/spool  echo $i uses 
/usr/spool ; done
Broken pipe
epic4 uses /usr/spool
mailserver uses /usr/spool
Broken pipe
ncftp uses /usr/spool
nn uses /usr/spool
nnbatch uses /usr/spool
nncheck uses /usr/spool
nngrep uses /usr/spool
nnpost uses /usr/spool
nntidy uses /usr/spool
nnview uses /usr/spool
Broken pipe
pine uses /usr/spool
strings: smath: Too many levels of symbolic links
sortmail uses /usr/spool
Broken pipe
xemacs uses /usr/spool
Broken pipe
xemacs-20.2 uses /usr/spool

the broken pipe messages are presumably from binaries with no strings in
them.  

on my system, /usr/bin/smath is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/smath.
/etc/alternatives/smath is a symlink to /usr/bin/smath. i suppose
it's a good think i don't use smath for anything :-). smath is from
staroffice. it's installed weirdly on my systems...i have it installed
on kali.taz.net.au and have /usr/lib/StarOffice3.1 nfs mounted on my
workstation siva.taz.net.au because kali has gobs of free disk space and
i built siva with a way-too-small /usr partition a long time ago.


it may be necessary for bug reports to be filed against the other
packages - depends on whether they are written to only use /usr/spool
or if the string is in there because they can use it as a second-choice
alternative to /var/spool.


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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Steve Hsieh
 All that would work if you wanted to take the machines offline to
 do that, but these machines are going to be handling 30MB/min of
 streaming data for 6 months at a clip. There's no way that would work. :(
 
  hmmm just a slightly evil thought
  anyone tried
  cat /dev/hda1  /dev/hdb1
  assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types
 
 Tried it... doesnt work.


you can't use cat, but if the drives are identical you can use dd (We use
that to clone identical copies of drives here).

As for package maintenance, once you have one machine set up the way you
want, you can get the package list using dpkg --get-selections, save that
to a file.  Then reverse it (ie: dpkg --set-selections  filename) on the
next machine after updating the package list.  Then you you don't need to
use dselect or do much work on the other machines and maintenance becomes
pretty painless. Come these things into an install/update script and then
you can pretty much automate everything except for answering all the
questions that come up during an install (in my case, I just keep tabs of
these config files on the master machine and rdist them across
afterwards).  This is how I keep our 50 or so linux machines in sync... 

If you are using hamm the dpkg-mountable method is pretty nice since it
only loads packages that are needed as opposed to recursing down all the
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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread bhmit1
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 Stephen Carpenter wrote:

  hmmm just a slightly evil thought
  anyone tried
  cat /dev/hda1  /dev/hdb1
  assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types

 Tried it... doesnt work.

The correct answer is dd if=/dev/hda1 of=hdb1 bs=1024.  This doesn't
care what is one the drive, even win 95 (known by experience), and it will
act like a perfect mirror.

The proper thing to do is to nfs export everything on one system, make a
boot disk that can mount the nfs drive, partition/mount the new drive, and
edit any specific info (hostname and ip) all by a simple boot script.
It's way above my head, but when set up right, would be almost as easy to
do 100 as it is to do 5.  I think this is what the titanic team did (in
the lj article).  I don't think they used redhat's easy method.

Brandon

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread C.J.LAWSON


On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 Stephen Carpenter wrote:
  
  Tim Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  They want to be able to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to
  each
   .
   .
   .
 
  hmmm just a slightly evil thought
  anyone tried
  cat /dev/hda1  /dev/hdb1
  assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types
 
 Tried it... doesnt work.
 
A more evil one, assuming /mnt is setup to mount /dev/hdb ..
(umount /mnt;cd /;tar cvzf - ./)|(mount /mnt; cd /mnt;tar xvzf -)
??

J.


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Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-10 Thread Norris Preyer
Santiago Vila Doncel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello.
 
 This mail is intended for the user who is running the current Debian
 unstable distribution (a.k.a. hamm).
 
 I'm the Debian maintainer who removed the /usr/spool symlink and some
 other symlinks that were part of the `base-files' package...

Ahh, that's the package!  I grepped /var/lib/dpkg/info/* for
/usr/spool, but didn't find anything.  I shoulda tried harder.

 Not only the FHS but also the old FSSTND says that the mail spool is
 /var/spool/mail, so every program should look for mail there, not
 in /usr/spool/mail.

 So if a program breaks because it uses /usr/spool, *that* is a bug.

 If you want to help us on this, you may report all those bugs through the
 Debian bug tracking system, see /usr/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt or
 http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs.
 
 [ Of course, if you want to help us even more, you may take a look at
 the bug database first to make sure that the bug is not already reported ].
 
 As it is often said: I apologize for the inconvenience, etc. etc.
 
 Thanks.

All this is cool, I just couldn't figure out which package removed
the link, so I wasn't sure which package to file a bug against.

Thanks!

--Norris

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:
 
  Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 
   hmmm just a slightly evil thought
   anyone tried
   cat /dev/hda1  /dev/hdb1
   assuming hda1 and hdb1 are similar partition sizes and types
 
  Tried it... doesnt work.
 
 The correct answer is dd if=/dev/hda1 of=hdb1 bs=1024.  This doesn't
 care what is one the drive, even win 95 (known by experience), and it will
 act like a perfect mirror.
 
 The proper thing to do is to nfs export everything on one system, make a
 boot disk that can mount the nfs drive, partition/mount the new drive, and
 edit any specific info (hostname and ip) all by a simple boot script.
 It's way above my head, but when set up right, would be almost as easy to
 do 100 as it is to do 5.  I think this is what the titanic team did (in
 the lj article).  I don't think they used redhat's easy method.

I used this (well, similar) method to install 58 machines in the computer
lab. They're all same, with 2.1G hard drives. I installed both linux and
windoze95 (well, it wasnt me, but a collegue ;)) on one machine (about
50%-50% for linux and w95). I made a boot disk, which sets up the network
with bootp, booted the installed machine off it, nfs mounted the server,
and then gzipped the whole disk (/dev/hda) with dd if=/dev/hda | gzip -c
/mnt/diskimage.gz. Then I booted another machine with the bootdisk,
mounted the server and did a gunzip -c /mnt/diskimage | dd of=/dev/hda. I
run 4-10 of these simultaneously (had to start them at the same time, so
they dont slow down because of reading different parts of diskimage.gz). I
didn't need to edit any bootup scripts, everything is setup thru bootp. It
all went perfectly, no need for partitioning either, /dev/hda contains
that info too. Windows95 had some problems though, it cannot get its name
from the bootp server, and it had to install another network card driver
because its pnp serial number changed. With linux this was no problem, I
used a pnpdump/sed script on /etc/isapnp.conf before running isapnp.

So this installation went perfectly, the only problem is that it is slow.
58*480Megs (this was the diskimage.gz size) thru a 10Mb network ... well,
it took around 10 hours. Since then I thought of a better, faster way to
do this, I've already written the programs for it, just cant test it yet.
So the idea is: run a program on the already installed machine, which
opens /dev/hda and then udp broadcasts it to the network. Each client
catches the broadcasted packets,  which has some information about block
number, block size and a crc, checks it, writes it to the disk, and marks
the block received. When the server finishes, it sends a block with length
0, then the clients can send querys to the server for the missed blocks.
I'll try these programs in a few weeks... I expect it to finish the 
installation of the whole lab in less than an hour.

Greg

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Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-10 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On 10 Feb 1998, Norris Preyer wrote:

 All this is cool, I just couldn't figure out which package removed
 the link, so I wasn't sure which package to file a bug against.

The package that removed the link is fine. It is the packages that try to
use the link that bugs should be reported against. In other words,
packages shouldn't use the link, but should refer directly to /var/spool.
If you find a package that tries to use the link and fails (because the
new base-files removed it), please file a bug report against that package
(and then if you need to use the buggy package, just create the soft-link
yourself). 

Santiago: Will further future upgrades of base-files again remove the
link? I would think that would be a good thing as it will root out buggy
packages. 

Cheers, Colin.

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 The powers-that-be around here have almost decided to scrap Slowaris
 x86 for the 200 machine PPro compouter farm, and go with Linux...  I
 need to convince them to use Debian and not RH. They want to be able
 to configure 1 machine and mirror the setup to each machine in the
 farm, without having to go to each of the remaining 199 and configure
 it by hand. Someone told them that RH made this easy, and no other
 dist could do it!

 Someone help me out here! This will be running the RHIC project in
 1999 here.. I'd love to see Debian get that kind of exposure!

Tim, from my experiences with (much smaller scale but still essentially
the same) mass-duplication of debian, all you need to do is duplicate the
hard disk and change half a dozen (or less) files under /etc: 

/etc/hostname
/etc/init.d/network
/etc/hosts

and maybe some others, depending on your particular needs and your
particular hardware setup.  e.g. if the hardware is not identical (in
particular, same network card) and identically configured then you will
also need to change /etc/modules.

you probably don't need to change /etc/mailname or the mail configuration
- just make them all masquerade as the domain name if they need to send. 

BTW, it will be much easier to do if all the machines have identical hard
disks.  then you can just install debian on one disk and use dd to
duplicate the disk, and then run a script to 'individualise' the hostname
and ip address details. 



FWIW, i auto-build debian based dialin servers (to be installed at schools
for staff and students) by installing the latest stable release, and then
run a fairly simple script which asks for the host  domain name, and ip
address and then uses ed to modify a handful of config filesthe ones
listed above plus stuff in /etc/ppp

it really is easy to do. if you need any help at all i am more than
willing to lend a hand... 





I find consistency in design to be one of the nicest features of debian:
I can build a standard machine which can be made to perform any
function (workstation, file server, ppp dialin server, mail server,
squid proxy, etc) just by installing the relevant packages. it gives me
an extraordinarily high level of consistency across the machines i have
to look after...they only differences are just the network config, and
the config files for one or two packages.

best of all, if a machine happens to die and i have kept a backup copy
of it's unique config files i can rebuild it very quickly. squid is a
good example - twice i've had the hard drives on a squid box fail under
the heavy load. rebuilding the box was very easy (it takes me about half
a day to build a debian box including unpacking all the hardware from
the packing cases).  While i was building the replacement box, I used
linux's IP aliasing to make another machine on the network pretend to
be the proxy server (but with only a tiny 100mb cache spool) so that
customers weren't inconvenienced by the downtime.



As far as I am concerned, the cheaper price of commodity hardware is far
more valuable than any X-hour support contract offered by a commercial
*nix vendor.  In the X hours i have to wait for their engineer to come
out, i can completely rebuild the machine from spare parts that i have
lying around.  Spare parts that I can afford because they are a third
(or less) of the price of the high end gear.

It is undeniable that, for example, Sun harware is more reliable than PC
clone hardwarebut it isn't reliable enough to be worth 3 to 5 times
the price. we've got some $30,000 (Australian $) sun boxes at work which
were bought a few months before i started thereif i had been around
at the time, we almost certainly would have bought $5,000 to $10,000 PC
boxes plus a few thousand dollars worth of spare parts instead. power
supplies, hard disks, memory, motherboards, cpus...enough to build a
whole machine or two.

including the cost of the support contract, this would have saved us
over $20,000 per machine. we have 3 of these machines. over $60,000
could have been saved.

OTOH, it's nice to have some ultra sparcs to play withi may even be
able to rebuild one as a debian sparc box by re-arranging server loads
more efficiently :-)


craig

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8086 assembler for linux device driver

1998-02-10 Thread Bernhard Mindermann





Hello,
is there an 8086 assembler available for converting 
Windows95/NT frame-grabber device driver to linux? Existing assembler source is 
about 12000 lines including several protected ring-0 opcodes. This code is 
typical device driver stuff: interrupt service routines, mapping physical memory 
and thousands of memory-mapped i/o operations. ( 32-bit Microsoft 
MASM)

thank you in advance
Bernhard 
Mindermann


Re: Using hamm? READ THIS about /usr/spool and related links...

1998-02-10 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
 
 how about this as a start:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 for i in /bin /sbin /sbin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R6/bin [...etc...] ; do
 for j in $i/* ; do
 strings -a $j | grep -q /usr/spool  echo $j uses /usr/spool
 done
 done
 
Running this script I got the following list:

bash uses /usr/spool
rbash uses /usr/spool
sh uses /usr/spool
mailserver uses /usr/spool
strings: smath: Too many levels of symbolic links
xemacs uses /usr/spool
xemacs-20.2 uses /usr/spool
xbiff uses /usr/spool

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Re: Compute Farm

1998-02-10 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:

 
 Tim, from my experiences with (much smaller scale but still essentially
 the same) mass-duplication of debian, all you need to do is duplicate the
 hard disk and change half a dozen (or less) files under /etc: 
 
   /etc/hostname
   /etc/init.d/network
   /etc/hosts

no need for changing these files, bootp can handle them (there is an
example rc.bootp which can be put in /etc/init.d/network)

Greg

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CD Changer

1998-02-10 Thread Rob
Hi,

Has anyone out there had any experience using an IDE CD-Changer with
Debian? How does it tell which disk it's supposed to hit (something like
/dev/hdc1...7 ???) responses requested from anyone who's done this. I
don't have a drive yet, but am considering purchasing one.

Thanks,
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Compiling w/shadow support

1998-02-10 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Hi,

I've recently switched over to Debian, and have shadow support installed. I
seem to have a reacurring problem when I need to compile my own software.
I've figured out that I need to add -I/usr/src/linux/include to many of my
CFLAGS, but when the make gets down to the -lshadow area, ld dies with the old:

ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file or directory

This happens on many programs I attempt to compile.
Is there a simple solution for this on Debian systems?

Thanks for any help,
Mark

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Re: Need help!

1998-02-10 Thread Jim Foltz
On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:33:40PM +0100, mr anonym wrote:
 I'm installing it from 
 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/Debian-1.3/disks-i386/current/
 and ive read and mostly understood the install.html file. But I just 
 have 4 MB of RAM, when I get to the part when it stands:
 This system has relevately low memory, special procedures are 
 required
 
 Here's what it looks like:
 1.Run the disk partitioning program to add a linux swap (type 
 82)And on..
 2.Then initialize the swap partion.
 3.Then initialize the temporary root partion.
 4.Reboot.
 
 I can choose these 2 options:
 1.Run the disk partitioning program inorder to create a swap 
 partition.
 2.Reboot
 
 When I type 1 I get here:
 
 The following drives are available: Drives that are named /dev/hdx are 
 IDE,
 ATA, MFM, or RLL drives. Drives that are named /dev/sdX are SCSI 
 drives.
/dev/hda
 Please type a driver name from the above list: 
 
 I dont know what i should type here.

Well, /dev/hda is the name of your hard disk. Linux found one IDE hard
drive. So you enter /dev/hda there.


 
 I will be very glad if someone could help me! 
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PPP disconnects while running X

1998-02-10 Thread Jim Foltz
Hello,

I have encountered an odd problem. My PPP connection to my ISP has been
working perfectly for over a year but recently I noticed the connection
would hang up from time to time. I did a little experiment and found it
only disconnected while I am in X. The connection is very stable at the
console and never hangs up. 

Has anyone ever had a similar problem and what might be the cause?

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