Re: Core Debian

1999-05-16 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Oi Macan,
Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote:

 Bem, nos da Core tinhamos a intencao de traduzir e internacionalizar
 a Debian, e ajudar sempre que possivel neste sentido. De fato eu fiz a 
 traducao
 de 80% dos boot-floppies, mas tive um problemao com hardware e perdi boa parte
 do trabalho, principalmente devido a evolucao dos boot-floppies durante o 
 tempo
 em que ocorreu o problema.

Nao sabia desse fato lamentavel ... :(


 Deixa eu contar algumas coisas interessantes, eu pus em dia meu
 trabalho de Debian-developer com mais dois pacotes de minha autoria, e resolvi
 abracar uma causa nobre, a bandeira do uso do linux na educacao. Publiquei
 um manifesto que foi o resultado de uma palestra que dei em algumas
 universidades, estou orientando novos developers (ou aspirantes a), alias,
 o pessoal do Rio nao se manifestou mais a respeito! Estou aguardando a
 iniciativa de voces em manifestarem seu interesse em se tornar developers para
 assinar as chaves de voces :)

legal. Quais pacotes voce empacatou? Quanto a usar Linux na educacao acho
muito valido.
Eu quero virar developer, mas nao encontro nenhum programa para empacotar. Todos
interessantes a Debian ja tem. :)




 Deem uma lida no artigo em http://thecore.com.br/artigos .

 Tive um feedback muito grande ate agora. Para voces terem uma ideia
 nesta semana estarei conversando com representantes do estado do RS, onde
 existe um plano para a implantacao do Linux em escolas e instituicoes
 governamentais, para o qual irei contribuir. Por isso ando meio sumido,
 estou negociando com a McMillan para escrever um Livro sobre Debian
 GNU/Linux e revisando o Guia de Linux para a segunda edicao, que deve sair
 em Julho proximo.

Quanto ao RS e' legal. Mas, livro sobre a Debian? Em ingles? Ano passado,
tivemos a ideia de escrever um livro, mas nao foi para frente. Alias, queriamos
colocar o Livro da Debian/Linux na distribuicao da Debian em Portugues. Po, voce
ta cheio de planos e a gente pensando que voce estava descansando em louros. :) 
E'
que voce nao fala.



 A Core trabalha para a divulgacao do Linux, e sempre vai ate o final
 de seus dias (da core, meus, ou do linux :).


certo.


 Um abraco, e obrigado por dizer que eu sou legal, os outros da Core
 tambem, a gente nao usa Windows, nossa distribuicao principal e a Debian,
 o Malheiros escreveu o plugin solid noise do gimp (ate agora o unico 
 brasileiro
 no about do gimp) e a maioria dos gradientes disponiveis para ele, sem falar
 na criacao do LDP-BR e, junto comigo do http://linux.unicamp.br. O AFMoraes
 ajuda a manter o site linusp.usp.br e seus quase 70Gb de Linux, eu fui um dos
 responsaveis por criar o www.br.debian.org e o ftp.br.debian.org no linusp,
 alem de comecar a traducao do site (que mea culpa, esta defasada). A core
 edita semanalmente o Core News, entao eu acho que na media a gente e legal :)

certo. :) A unica coisa que  eu discordei um pouco contigo, foi sobre dizer
que a Debian era otima para servidor. Ela e' boa para desktop tambem.


 Se voces enviarem e-mail para o malheiros [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandando
 que ele termine logo sua maldita tese de mestrado em computacao grafica quem
 sabe a gente consiga mais tempo para contribuir para o Debian em Portugues :)

vou fazer isso, e dizer que voce que mandou.  :)


 O e-mail dele e [EMAIL PROTECTED] , mandem e-mails carinhosos
 sugerindo que ele pare de ficar jogando xkobo e termine a tese de mestrado ;)

 Um grande abraco para todos, e parabens ao pessoal do Rio pela 
 traducao
 do boot-floppies! :)


De nada. Espere mais coisa.


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Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread William Park
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:33:01PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
snip.../snip
 This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
 /hda1 40MB
 swap   hda2 8MB
 /usr  hda3  68MB
 swap   hdb1  8MB
 /usr  hdb2  250MB
 
 where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
 Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
 partitions or will X complain?
 
 Thanks,
 Michelle

No, you cannot do that --- one partition, one mounting point.
Also, try to increase swap size to 32Mb.

Why are you making 2 8Mb swap partitions, when single 16Mb will do?

My recommendattion is 
use 116Mb hard disk for / and swap
use 258Mb hard disk for /usr, /home/, or whatever.
 


error in read()ing first

1999-05-16 Thread Pollywog
I am getting lots of these errors and have no idea what they mean.

What is it all about?  I have not seen these before.

 May 15 22:35:16 lilypad /usr/sbin/gpm[156]: Error in read()ing first: No
 such file or directory
 May 15 22:35:16 lilypad /usr/sbin/gpm[156]: Error in read()ing first: No
 such file or directory

thanks

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Re: icewm-gnome config files

1999-05-16 Thread Tommy Malloy
Hi Tim

Thanks for the help.  Perhaps I was not clear
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well what you want to look at, is the menu of the gnome panel :-) That
 will contain StarOffice.

This is correct.  Staroffice does appear in the menu of the gnome panel.
I added it using the gnome menuing utility.  However Staroffice does not
appear anywhere when I use icewm-gnome. icewm-gnome is a version of
icewm preconfigured to run gnome.  It is a separate deb and a separate
manager from regular icewm.  This must mean that gnome runing in
icewm-gnome must be reading a different config file from regular gnome.
fvwm+gnome has staroffice, fvwm2+gnome has staroffice, windowmaker+gnome
has staroffice icewm+gnome has staroffice etc.  
icewm-gnome does not have staroffice.  icewm-gnome must be reading a
differnet menu file. Running as root, I issued the following  command   
 find / -name ice* | most   I found no icewm-gnome config files


 I'm not sure where the ICEWm menu is stored, probably in the ~/.icewm
 directory :-)

There is no ~/.icewm or ~/icewm-gnome directory
I can live without this. I am actually using windowmaker now.  It seems
pretty cool  I looked briefly at enlightenment. It is quite hedious, but
that another story.  I just don't like when I don't understand stuff
that should be pretty simple.  Anyway thanks again for the help


Re: small problems after installing potato

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 P == Pollywog  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

P software with dselect, it tries to upgrade my custom kernel to the
P default 2.2.5 kernel (my custom kernel is also 2.2.5).

How did you build it? When you use kernel-package, you can use a
revision number that is higher than any that could possible be in the
archive (well on reasonable grounds), so dselect and apt won't
recognise the official one as a newer version.

Either set the kernel-image package on hold ( = in dselect), or
recompile you cuszom kernel with somthing like

make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel-image

Ciao,
Martin


Re: smail problem

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 SZ == Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SZ Some sites block the emails sent from an unqualified domain.  How
SZ do I configure smail so that I can send the mail via a qualified
SZ smtp, or as it looks like my domain is qualified.

First make sure you don't deliver mail directly to the destination,
but use your ISP's mailhost. This will save you some trouble.

If you have a smart_host entry in /etc/smail/routers, then this is set 
up this way, otherwise rerun smail-config.

Then, make sure masquerade your host on smtp handshaking. In
/etc/smail/config you should use 

visible_name=cia.com.au

or such some.

You may also want to rewrite your Sender: header if it contains an
internal hostname (can't check this, I read the list through a
local mail2news gateway). See http://www.debian.org/fom/137.html

If hostname --fqdn doesn't show a hostname in the form of host.net for 
your box, then you should fix this as well. Refer to this list about
it.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread Michelle Maria Coelho
Thank you for the prompt replies.
I'll try what you said and I think it will work. I decided to split the
swap among the disks because the Howto on Partitonioning a Hard Disk
suggested this.
I guess since I'll be the only user, I needn't have a /home partition.
Are  any other partitions besides / and /usr needed in my situation?
Thanks.
Michelle

 On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:33:01PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
 snip.../snip
  This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
  /hda1 40MB
  swap   hda2 8MB
  /usr  hda3  68MB
  swap   hdb1  8MB
  /usr  hdb2  250MB
 
  where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
  Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
  partitions or will X complain?
 
  Thanks,
  Michelle

--
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Department of Computer and Information Science
Purdue School of Science

Phone: 1-317-278-2948
Fax  : 1-317-274-9742




[ ppp-2.3.8 is out]

1999-05-16 Thread Wayne Topa


Thought that this might be of interest to the Debian group.


- Forwarded message from Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Date:   Fri, 14 May 1999 16:27:20 +1000
From:   Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux-ppp@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: ppp-2.3.8 is out
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ppp-2.3.8 is available now, in the usual place:

ftp://cs.anu.edu.au/pub/software/ppp

Mostly bug fixes and minor pppd improvements this time.  There are a
couple of bug fixes in the kernel PPP driver for Linux.  These fixes
are already in linux-2.2.8 (and 2.2.9).  Here's the what's new
section from the README:

What's new in ppp-2.3.8.


* The exit status of pppd will now indicate whether the link was
  successfully established, or if not, what error was encountered.

* Pppd has two new options: fdlog n will send log messages to file
  descriptor n instead of standard output, and nofdlog will stop log
  messages from being sent to any file descriptor (they will still be
  sent to syslog).  Pppd now will not send log messages to a file
  descriptor if the serial port is open on that file descriptor.

* Pppd sets an environment variable called PPPLOGNAME for scripts that
  it runs, indicating the login name of the user who invoked pppd.

* Pppd sets environment variables CONNECT_TIME, BYTES_SENT and
  BYTES_RCVD for the ip-down and auth-down scripts indicating the
  statistics for the connection just terminated.  (CONNECT_TIME is in
  seconds.)

* If the user has the serial device open on standard input and
  specifies a symbolic link to the serial device on the command line,
  pppd will detect this and behave correctly (i.e. not detach from its
  controlling terminal).  Furthermore, if the serial port is open for
  reading and writing on standard input, pppd will assume that it is
  locked by its invoker and not lock it itself.

* Chat now has a feature where if a string to be sent begins with an
  at sign (@), the rest of the string is taken as the name of a file
  (regular file or named pipe), and the actual string to send is taken
  from that file.

* Support for FreeBSD-2.2.8 and 3.0 has been added, thanks to Paul
  Fulghum.

* The Tru64 (aka Digital Unix aka OSF/1) port has been updated.

* The system panics on Solaris SMP systems related to PPP connections
  being established and terminated should no longer occur.

* Fixed quite a few bugs.


Paul.

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Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-16 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?
Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:46:14PM +0100

In reply to:Kris

Quoting Kris([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Problem: PPP works fine under kernel 2.0.36; under 2.2.x it connects, but 
 it seems like no packets go in or out. tcpdump only shows what looks like 
 things trying to get out, but not getting anything back (really technical, 
 huh?). I can ping myself (localhost  local IP), but not _any_ remote IPs 
 (including my nameservers). All IRQs, nameservers,  so on are set correctly.
 
 PPP is compiled into the kernel (of 2.2.9), and I'm using the latest 
 version of PPP. It's slink, but I've tried it with apt-get update  upgrade 
 using the unstable area; makes no difference. Re-installed many times. 
 Booting from floppy due to a resistant HD/BIOS. I've spent about two weeks 
 on this problem, scouring searchlinux.com, deja(news), the HOW-TOs, Google, 
 and so on. And I reckon I've spent about £5 on phone bills trying things.
 
 Here are various outputs while connected (my apologies if everything gets 
 munged by Eudora):

[ snip ]

 # egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
 asyncmap 0 authcrtscts   lock   hide-password   modem
 noipdefault-am -vj   debug  lcp-echo-interval 30
 lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx

I have a working ppp on kernel 2.2.9. my pppd command is 

exec /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 115200 lock modem crtscts \
 asyncmap 0 defaultroute connect $DIALER_SCRIPT
pppd --version
(pppd version 2.3 patch level 5)

egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
domain mindspring.com
mru 1500
mtu 1500
name login-name

 I don't recall making any changes to the above when going to the 2.2.x
kernel.  The only differences I can see are what i show above.

HTH

Wayne 

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revitalize the corner saloon.
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Re: Need help installing - can't find hdd

1999-05-16 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Need help installing - can't find hdd
Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:40:43PM -0700

In reply to:freefood

Quoting freefood([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I cannot figure out how to get the debian boot program to recognize my
 hdd. I have a 13.5GB hdd, so I know there are issues with drives larger than
 8GB, but I don't know how to resolve them. This is what I've done:
 
 
Check the mail archives for the last 2 months.  I seem to recall a
discussion on that here and there were IIRC solutions posrted.

HTH

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is for compulsive neurotics who were prematurely toilet-trained.  They 
wear neckties and carefully line up pencils on otherwise qclear desks.
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Re: packages for dialing isp

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 M == MallarJ  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

M but KPPP refuses to do the job.  XISP is nice, but I couldn't get
M it to dial over 38,000kbps for me for some reason.  WVDial is what
M I use now.  It's not

Both are frontends to pppd, so as long as the same options are used,
the result should be that same.

Check if wvdial uses some special init string for your modem, and
entre in into options-communication options. Also make sure that
Serial Port Rate in the same dialog is set to 115200, Flowcontrol
Hardware.

Other than that, I can't think of any reason why the result could be
different.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: isapnp problems

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

Quoting Paul Nathan Puri([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I'm trying to get the modem going.  Windows reported that it sat on
 IRQ 4, on io port 0110-0117.

 WT == Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

WT That is a strange looking port address. Common address for COM 1
WT is 3F8 on 'normal' PC hardware.

This is OK. It looks like it is an internal modem (evil), that's why
he uses isapnp

What modem is it anyway? It's not one of the winmodems that only work
with windows 95/98 ?

Ciao,
Martin


Re: small problems after installing potato

1999-05-16 Thread Pollywog

On 15-May-99 Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
 P == Pollywog  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 P software with dselect, it tries to upgrade my custom kernel to the
 P default 2.2.5 kernel (my custom kernel is also 2.2.5).
 
 How did you build it? When you use kernel-package, you can use a
 revision number that is higher than any that could possible be in the
 archive (well on reasonable grounds), so dselect and apt won't
 recognise the official one as a newer version.

I was wondering if I could do that, and avoid this problem without having to
download a newer kernel.
 
 Either set the kernel-image package on hold ( = in dselect), or
 recompile you cuszom kernel with somthing like
 
 make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel-image
 

thanks, I was unsure if I could just put the kernel package on hold.

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Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-16 Thread Kris

At 20:21 15/05/1999 +, you wrote:
Ppp is known to have problems with 2.2.X.

Indeed it does. *thwap*

How about the far end of the ppp link?

Nope; the only thing I can ping or otherwise communicate with is localhost 
 the dynamic IP which I'm assigned (from /var/log/ppp.log).


Option names have changes and the old ones may not be supported anymore.
To turn off compression use 'nobsdcomp', 'nodeflate', and 'novj'.  I no
longer recall what '-am' did.  Check the man page.

As a long shot, try turning off all compression.

I've tried nobsdcomp, nodeflate, novjc, novjccomp, and probably a few other 
things; nothing cures it. I reckon that even if the compression stuff 
wasn't set right, _some_ packets should make their way in/out.


Incidentaly, I earlier tried upgrading to potato (libc6  so on) and 
recompiling the kernel to include anything which looks even remotely 
route-looking; no luck (made the man output have a Perl error though; 
nothing serious).


I'm starting to think that I've either got a curse put on me my by an evil 
goat, or I'm just dmed to failure.


Any other ideas, anyone? (Pretty please?)


Re: small problems after installing potato

1999-05-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 11:42:25PM -, Pollywog wrote:
 
 On 15-May-99 Martin Bialasinski wrote:
  
  P == Pollywog  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  P software with dselect, it tries to upgrade my custom kernel to the
  P default 2.2.5 kernel (my custom kernel is also 2.2.5).
  
  How did you build it? When you use kernel-package, you can use a
  revision number that is higher than any that could possible be in the
  archive (well on reasonable grounds), so dselect and apt won't
  recognise the official one as a newer version.
 
 I was wondering if I could do that, and avoid this problem without having to
 download a newer kernel.
  
  Either set the kernel-image package on hold ( = in dselect), or
  recompile you cuszom kernel with somthing like
  
  make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel-image
  
 
 thanks, I was unsure if I could just put the kernel package on hold.

This is not a common problem, but exists with kernel-2.2.5 because the
version includes an epoch in the numbering (see
/usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz). If you use:

make-kpkg --revision=1:custom.1.0 kernel-image

you can avoid this in the future.  Putting it on hold works, however. 

Bob

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Re: icewm-gnome config files

1999-05-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 07:43:56PM -0400, Tommy Malloy wrote:
 Hi Tim
 
 Thanks for the help.  Perhaps I was not clear
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well what you want to look at, is the menu of the gnome panel :-) That
  will contain StarOffice.
 
 This is correct.  Staroffice does appear in the menu of the gnome panel.
 I added it using the gnome menuing utility.  However Staroffice does not
 appear anywhere when I use icewm-gnome. icewm-gnome is a version of
 icewm preconfigured to run gnome.  It is a separate deb and a separate
 manager from regular icewm.  This must mean that gnome runing in
 icewm-gnome must be reading a different config file from regular gnome.
 fvwm+gnome has staroffice, fvwm2+gnome has staroffice, windowmaker+gnome
 has staroffice icewm+gnome has staroffice etc.  
 icewm-gnome does not have staroffice.  icewm-gnome must be reading a
 differnet menu file. Running as root, I issued the following  command   
  find / -name ice* | most   I found no icewm-gnome config files
 
 
  I'm not sure where the ICEWm menu is stored, probably in the ~/.icewm
  directory :-)
 
 There is no ~/.icewm or ~/icewm-gnome directory
 I can live without this. I am actually using windowmaker now.  It seems
 pretty cool  I looked briefly at enlightenment. It is quite hedious, but
 that another story.  I just don't like when I don't understand stuff
 that should be pretty simple.  Anyway thanks again for the help
 

icewm and icewm-gnome will put the Debian menu system in its menu under
Programs, so you can use update-menus.

Bob

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Re[2]: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
Michelle Maria Coelho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess since I'll be the only user, I needn't have a /home partition.

A '/home'  _directory_ will be created for you, and you should use it, just to
get out of the habit of always logging in as root. Since your email address at
school is [EMAIL PROTECTED], I would create a user called 'mcoelho'.

 Are  any other partitions besides / and /usr needed in my situation?

The _partitions_ you 'need' are only those you specify to meet your particular
hard drive space situation; all needed _directories_ will be created for you,
under the mount points you assign to your linux native partitions.


--
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at
Esmond, R.I., USA

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Re: How do I load CDRom driver?

1999-05-16 Thread Michelle Coelho
I did a dmesg|grep 'hd'.
All I got was hda1, hda2.
So I guess the CDrom was not detected.
Michelle

Michelle Maria Coelho
Department of Computer and Information Science
Purdue School of Science

Phone: 1-317-278-2948  
Fax  : 1-317-274-9742


help on installing (starting) staroffice

1999-05-16 Thread Vladimir G Stanishev
i downloaded all the files and the installer package from teh debian site
adn everything seemed to install fine.  everytime I type swriter hwoever a
setup program starts and it doesn't have the user installation option that
the readme mentions.  just four options - modify, upgrade uninstall and
repair.  I cna't make anything of thsi, how do I get staroffice running?

vladimir.


Re: VIM questions

1999-05-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:15:05PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
 1) For some reason vim inists on showing file stats at the bottom of the
 screen whenever I edit a file. It isn't too bad normally, but when I
 invoked from mutt it waits for me to press a key. Very annoying. How do I
 get rid of that behaviour?

I'd love to know how to shut that thing off as well.  Completely unneeded
and annoying as all hell.  

 2) How do I make use the dark background syntax settings?

Set them up in a local directory and have the local directory override the
global syntax directory.

 3) In the long running debian coding standards debate on devel, it was
 mentioned that tabs shouldn't be used to indent, but spaces instead. How do
 I set up vim to insert n amount of spaces when I press the TAB key? Or is
 there some other key that is used for that purpose?

Here's from my .vimrc

set tabstop=2
set expandtab

expandtab is the one that will automatically set tabs to spaces.

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for David B. Teague: installing on a SCSI HD

1999-05-16 Thread Davide Anchisi
Hi David,

I hope your exams went well.

Thank you for your help, now I tell you whay my sistem requires.

 If you will tell me what your system requires, then after my exams
 are over, i.e. after May 15, I will compile a kernel and make the
 kernel available for down load.



  This is my sistem:

486 processor
16 Mb RAM
Math coprocessor
Floppy disk
IDE HD (with windows95: VFAT)
IDE/ATAPI CDROM (ISO9660)
SCSI host adapter: Adaptec AHA-1510
SCSI HD
Serial mouse (3 buttons)
Sound card: SoundBlaster Pro2
Italian keyboard (and language)
Modem

Is this enough?

What about the compiled kernel? Have I to put it in a rescue-disk? and,
if so, how? Or have I to install debian 2.1 after booting from the
floppy with the new kernel? and, if so, how to put it on a boot floppy
and how to install debian?

Thank you very much.

Davide




Re: making linux look bad

1999-05-16 Thread Ben Messinger
tf wrote:
 
 Hey everybody
 
 I make linux look bad.  I've been messing with it for almost 2 years and have 
 never had it running well enough to use.  So.  can
 someone give me a strategy to follow?  I'm obviously going about this  the 
 wrong way.  I think it would help if I got ppp
 working-both pon and wvdail dial out, but leave the line open and not 
 connected to anything.  right now, my only internet
 connection is via windows.

This is awful! But luckily you have come to the right place. The Debian
community is a wealth of information and expertise unsurpassed by any
other distribution follownig in my experience (ymmv).

Ok, here are my recomendations, to be followed by some of my personal
experiences. This may get long so I will start with the summary and you
can stop reading beyond that if it gets boring.

1. Catalog _all_ of your hardware and ensure that _every_ piece is
supported (well).

2. If you have hardware that is not supported then buy, barter, or
trade, for pieces that are.

3. Aquire some desk references - good Linux books. Buy two and you will
be amazed at how often the answer you are looking for is in book 'A' but
not 'B'. Then you will find the answer to another question only in book
'B'. There are to many good books to list, but you need at least one.
This is not an option - get one or more.

4. Set some goals and priorities for getting things working. 
a) get a solid installation completed.
b) get ppp working -- important. use to access info for solving all
other pronblems.
d) start with the next most important feature and work on it until you
get it working.
e) repeat step 'd' untill everything works.
f) after all your hardware is working keep learing (shell scripting,
compiling sources, etc.)


Personal experiences:

Don't get discouraged. The first time I installed Linux it took me
_months_ to get all of my hardware working correctly. Then one day I sat
down in front of the thing and everything was working. That was so
great. The turning point for me was the day I realized that every time I
got stuck and couldn't find a solution to a problem I would boot Windoze
(ie. I would take the easy way out.). I realized that as long as I kept
dropping back to Windoze every time Linux got tough I would never learn.
At that point I decided to try an experiment - total immersion. I
resolved not to boot windows at any cost. I wanted to do two things:
1)learn more by forcing myself to find solutions to Linux problems, and
2) To see if Linux really could supply all I needed from a computer.
Well it worked. In '98 I removed windows to make more space for Linux --
I hadn't booted windoze in over a year! It was not easy at first, but in
the first two months of project total immersion I learned more than I
had in the previous _year_ of dual-booting.

If you do this I am sure you will look back in three months and be
amazed at how far you have come. I know that not everyone can make that
level of commitment to using Linux, but I recommend it if you can. 

The good news is that it gets easier as you learn more. There will come
a day when you can sit down in front of a bare system and walk away an
hour later leaving a fully configured system complete with network,
printing, sound, x-windows, etc. And even better, you will know how to
use it! Then the fun begins.

Hang in there. We will be here to help.
-- 
---
Ben Messinger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Only dead fish go with the flow. Use Debian/GNU Linux.
---


StarOffice 5 and Glibc 2.1 (potato) mini-HOWTO

1999-05-16 Thread Brad Jorsch
Before i begin, please CC all replies to my email address. dyn.cx seems to
be severely broken (or at least their nameserver is hosed), and this
mailbox can't take the onslaught that is debian-user :( ... Anyone know of
any functional free domain hosts?

Sometime two or three weeks ago, we were discussing making StarOffice work
under Potato. i didn't see in the archives that anyone solved the printing
problem, so i went ahead and wrote the mini-HOWTO like someone recommended
i do.

It's available at http://199.74.95.157/random/StarOffice501_glibc21.gz, if
anyone could mirror it that would be a good thing. Also, please send any
and all comments, that's the only way it can be made better.

i can send the file by email as well if anyone needs it. I'd post it to
the list except that i don't want to overflow anyone's mailbox...


Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:33:01PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
 This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
 /hda1 40MB
 swap   hda2 8MB
 /usr  hda3  68MB
 swap   hdb1  8MB
 /usr  hdb2  250MB

You can split the swap and it is recommended that you do that.
You cannot split the /usr partition that way, though, unless you
use special software (the md driver, which is an advanced topic).

If you are using X, I suggest that you create a bit more swap
(like 16 MB on each disk).

Kristian


3D stereo glasses for Linux?

1999-05-16 Thread John Gay


I realise this is not only off-topic, but completely out in left field. I have
just been searching a few 3D glasses sites, and found many games have 3D patched
available for them, including, Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem! But the sites I found
only listed DOS and Windows drivers. I was wondering if anyone knew of any
software or patches for 3D glasses for Linux. I'm talking about the LCD
shutter-type glasses and not the old Red/Blue type ones, of course. I have
always had an interest in 3D photography and films and used to have a book
called Garage VR that had lots of software for VR stuff, including drivers for
generic 3D LCD glasses, special output format that used a stereopticon type
viewer that was attached directly to the monitor as well as the old Red/Blue
output. This is just for my own curiosity and as an extra selling point to the
Wife for Linux.
Thanks for your help and information.

Cheers,

 John Gay



Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread Illo de' Illis
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 06:26:02PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
 Thank you for the prompt replies.
 I'll try what you said and I think it will work. I decided to split the
 swap among the disks because the Howto on Partitonioning a Hard Disk
 suggested this.
 I guess since I'll be the only user, I needn't have a /home partition.

Mmmhh you mean you'll work as root for all the time? It's not a Good Thing.
You should log in as an user in order to avoid unwanted disasters to
happen. IMHO you need a /home directory.

 Are  any other partitions besides / and /usr needed in my situation?

/var usually tends to grow but I think it's not your case. The suggested
partitioning schemes in the last replies will do the job.

Ciao,
Illo.

-- 

Ilario Nardinocchi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Computer Science Adept since 1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Know-nothing-bozo rule:
The views expressed above are entirely mine and do not represent the views,
policy or understanding of any other person or official body.



Temporaly disable program

1999-05-16 Thread Urban Gabor
Hi,

I've installed a program (gpm to more precise) and I want to
disable/enable it for the next booting. Remove/install every time I want
to experiment would be weird. Any ideas are wellcome

Gabor Urban --- Lufthansa Systems Hungaria KfT 
mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tel : (36)-1-431-2949 Fax :(36)-1-431-2977
I am not a cat to play with the mouse.


P5A Asus board and M1541 Aladdin...

1999-05-16 Thread Illo de' Illis
Well I do know this is not the right mailing list but you're so kind, so... ;)
Ok, I've got this ASUS P5A-B motherboard, with this Acer Labs M5229/c1 IDE
interface. This is the output of lspci -v:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. M1541 (rev 04)
Subsystem: Unknown device 10b9:1541
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64
Memory at e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc.: Unknown device 5243 (rev 04)
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
I/O behind bridge: e000-dfff
Memory behind bridge: de80-dfff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e7f0-e7ff

00:03.0 Bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. M7101
Subsystem: Unknown device 10b9:7101
Flags: medium devsel

00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. M1533 (rev c3)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:0f.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. M5229 (rev c1) (prog-if 8a)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ ?
I/O ports at d800

01:00.0 Display controller: Texas Instruments TVP4020 [Permedia 2] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Unknown device 1092:0146
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
Memory at df80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Memory at df00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Memory at de80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)

... and the kernel (2.2.9) says...

...
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 78, VID=10b9, DID=5229
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled
ide0: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled
ide1: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
hda: WDC AC313000R, ATA DISK drive
hdb: 685A, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdc: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: WDC AC313000R, 12416MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=25228/16/63
hdb: ATAPI 7X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.55
hdc: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm
hdc: The drive reports both 100663296 and 0 bytes as its capacity
...

The BIOS is correctly set to Auto in the PIO/UltraDMA IDE modes.
My question is: is it me, or the latest kernels cannot support ALi M5229 ide
interface?
Another question: I really made a mistake buying a WDC AC313000R, didn't I? ;)

Ciao,
Illo.

--

Ilario Nardinocchi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Computer Science Adept since 1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Know-nothing-bozo rule:
The views expressed above are entirely mine and do not represent the views,
policy or understanding of any other person or official body.



Re: P5A Asus board and M1541 Aladdin...

1999-05-16 Thread Adam Klein
On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 10:29:30AM +0200, Illo de' Illis wrote:
 Well I do know this is not the right mailing list but you're so kind, so... ;)
 Ok, I've got this ASUS P5A-B motherboard, with this Acer Labs M5229/c1 IDE
 interface. This is the output of lspci -v:
[snip]
 The BIOS is correctly set to Auto in the PIO/UltraDMA IDE modes.
 My question is: is it me, or the latest kernels cannot support ALi M5229 ide
 interface?

It's available as a patch at http://www.dyer.vanderbilt.edu/server/udma/
It's also being included in the 2.3.x development series, and has a
possibility of being merged into 2.2.x

Adam


Cubic mouse cursor

1999-05-16 Thread David R. Kohel
Anyone know how to get rid of this 2x2 cm mouse cursor under X? 

I just re-installed X (3.3.3.1) from potato.

--David 

P.S. Pls CC me.


Newbie X (no @ on kbd)

1999-05-16 Thread jean-Yves BARBIER
Hi all,

I just succeed to start X under frame buffer (thanks to Geert Uytterhoeven!), 
bur I don't have the '@' available from my
keyboard! (quite silly, isn't it?).
Its a huge problem, because it oblige me to use windows.

How can I recover it??

Regards,
JY
-- 
Jean-Yves BARBIER   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles 
fussent... P. DAC
Boycott Intel, watch: http://www.bigbrotherinside.com
If you need N components to build your board, you'll ALWAYS have N-1 in stock 
Murphy's law


Re: X desktop keys

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 AI == Andrei Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

AI I just ran into an interesting thing: On my desktop, I accidently
AI hit Shift+Alt+arrow key. I know that Alt+arry key switches between
AI screens, bbut what does Shift+Alt+arrows do? It switches me into
AI an empty screen, where I can open more windows, but where does it
AI come from?  I'm thinking along the lines of virtual consolesam
AI I anywhere close?

Yes, but it is not something done by the kernel as the normal
consoles, but by the windowmanager. 

I use fvwm2 with a 2x3 (=6 desks) setup, and with alt+arrow, I can
navigate trough them. I also have a pager, which shows all desks (and
which you can use to move to a desk or manipulate the windows).

On http://www.internet-treff.uni-koeln.de/~martin/shot.jpg (rather
big, beware), you can see the pager on the lower right corner.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: HELP! mail does not work (exim+fetchmail)

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 SZ == Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SZ After a long time, I finally decide to replace smail with exim.  I
SZ have sucessfully set it up on one machine. But the other one stops
SZ working...

So I guess my late reply on settig upsmail is obsolete :-)

SZ After installing exim, my fetchmail does not work at more..

SZ The error message is:

SZ fetchmail: 4 messages for shao at pop3.cia.com.au (7683 octets).
SZ fetchmail: POP3 RETR 1
SZ fetchmail: POP3 +OK
SZ fetchmail: reading message 1 of 4 (1200 octets)
SZ fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed: Connection refused
SZ fetchmail: POP3 QUIT^M

SZ from exim is:

SZ 1999-05-12 21:18:55 10hX2N-7H-00 Completed
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 Start queue run: pid=473
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 10hWvm-6W-00 Message is frozen
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 10hWio-5i-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unknown 
local-part shao in domain virge
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 10hX6K-7g-00 =  R=10hWio-5i-00 U=mail 
P=local S=1684
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 10hWio-5i-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 10hWio-5i-00 Completed
SZ 1999-05-12 21:23:00 End queue run: pid=473

Are you sure this is from the same run?

I would have guessed that the Connection failed is caused by exim
not listening to the smtp port.

Does telnet localhost smtp give you the greeting?

What does you .fetchmailrc look like? Do you have the is s2193893
here part in there?

SZ strange thing is I don't even know where is this shao come from!

See the first line of the fetchmail message?


Re: Visual Basic type IDE/Compiler

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 d == deblists  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

d There are other IDE's, but those are the ones that include visual
d interface builders that I can think of right now.

There are code crusader, sniff++ and wipeout as well. All aiming 
at c/c++/java. 

I don't know C, just perl and pike, but I also didn't see any
programms writen in Basic (of whatever flavor) on Linux yet.

Ciao,
Martin


RE: Temporaly disable program

1999-05-16 Thread Ted Harding
On 16-May-99 Urban Gabor wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've installed a program (gpm to more precise) and I want to
 disable/enable it for the next booting. Remove/install every time I
 want to experiment would be weird. Any ideas are wellcome

Generically, the way to prevent a program from executing is to change its
permissions so that it is not executable (i.e. does not have x
permission).

My gpm has (ls -l `which gpm`):
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root36515 Dec  1  1997 /usr/bin/gpm

i.e. 755 permissions. If you do

  chmod 644 /usr/bin/gpm

then the result would be

-rw-r--r--   1 root root36515 Dec  1  1997 /usr/bin/gpm

i.e. the x permissions would have gone and the program would not
execute. When you want it back, you restore them with

  chmod 755 /usr/bin/gpm

I'm not running a Debian system at the moment, so I can't answer for
precisely how Debian starts up gpm when it boots, but in my SuSE system
the file  /etc/rc.d/init.d/gpm  has the lines

test $START_GPM = yes || exit 0

case $1 in
start)
if test -x /usr/bin/gpm ; then
echo Starting console mouse support. (gpm)
/usr/bin/gpm $GPM_PARAM 
fi
;;

The if test ...  checks whether /usr/bin/gpm exists and is executable.
If not (which would be the case if you changes the permissions) then
nothing is done. For what you want to do, achieving it simply by
changing permissions is going to be simpler than fiddling deep inside
the boot-up initialisation scripts.

Hope this helps,
Ted.


E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16-May-99   Time: 10:34:17
-- XFMail --


netscape, navigator, communicator...

1999-05-16 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

Can somebody explain me what's in each package and what are their
inter-relationships?

What's the bare minimum if I want to have just a 'lightweith'
netscape 4.5 browser?

TIA!

-- p.


Re[2]: icewm-gnome config files

1999-05-16 Thread Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Also, there's supposedly a way to add your own entries to the Debian
 menus, but I don't yet know how exactly that works :-)

Yes and usually it works very well. If you install a .deb then the menu
item should appear on your menus automatically. If you want to add your
own menu item then you need to add a file to ~/.menu/, or to /etc/menu/
if you want the new item to be on all users' menus.

A typical file would look like this:

?package(local.mystuff):needs=x11 \
section=Apps/Net title=Ishmail \
command=/usr/local/lib/1.3.2/bin/ishmail

Pretty self-explanatory really.

Once you have created the file and saved it, just run 'update-menus' and
you should see the new menu items. Sometimes I have needed to run
update-menus as root too.

Not sure if the Debian menu system applies to all WMs, I have a feeling
that it doesn't - I have used it successfully with Icewm and Window
Maker, and a Debian section is added to Gnome and KDE. The latter two,
though, are clumsy in that the sum total of all your installed apps are
relegated to one item on the menu (sometimes duplicated on two items)
and the Gnome or KDE apps get categorised. I *hate* that! You could, of
course, change that manually. 


--
Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Linux (Potato) 


Re: How do I load CDRom driver?

1999-05-16 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
do you have an over OS (Win95,WinNT, BeOS) that found your cdrom ?




Re: Temporaly disable program

1999-05-16 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
try as root :
update-rc.d gpm remove
see also :
man update-rc.d



Re: Update ... Re: Ethernet newbee failure

1999-05-16 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 First I want to thank everyone who sent me a reply, both private and on
 the list. I now know 3 different way to create working routing tables.
 With regret, this has not resolved the problem. It was John Hasler who
 actually resolved things for me. I now have the following routing tables
 on both machines:
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  01 lo
 10.0.0.0*   255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 
 
 I get better results now than ever before, but still can't complete a
 ping.
 
 Here are the facts:
 
 1. Each machine can ping itself successfully.
 
 2. A ping to the other machine returns 0 packets to the kernel.
 
 3. The PKT light on the hub blinks while a failed ping is in progress.
 
 
 The NICs are EtherLink III cards connected through a hub using twisted
 pair cable.
 
 Suppositions:
 
 Fact 1 is not useful, as the kernel, seeing the information in the routing
 table, has no reason to go to the card to resolve the ping. In this
 circumstance the kernel is talking to itself and the ping program, not the
 card.
 
 Fact 3 indicates that the ping is getting out of the kernel, into the
 card, and onto the cable. When properly configured the card in machine one
 gets a reply from the card in machine two, but fails to get that message
 to the kernel. (fact 2)
 
 At this point, it is my supposition that the card is responding on another
 interrupt from the one it was commanded to use by isapnp, and the driver.
 The kernel, the driver, and the isapnp program, all think the card has
 been configured for base address 0300, and irq 10, yet no traffic makes it
 out of the card into the kernel, suggesting that it is using another
 interrupt.

 Isapnp? Turn off the pnp and try settings manually. 
 
 As painful as it seemed at this point, I was ready to try loading the
 driver commanding each interrupt that the card might use, hoping to
 stumble on it by a careful search.
 
 Although the documentation seems to indicate that the only parameter that
 I can send to the driver is the irq, modconf says that the io base address
 can also be entered. Worse than that, if you try to specify another
 interrupt for the driver install, it hangs forever.
 
 I was able to do an insmod including the parrameter, but the results were
 not what I expected:
 
 dwarf# insmod 3c509 irq=12
 eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 10 5a de c8 16, IRQ
 10.
 3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Note that the driver still declares irq 10 rather than the irq 12 that I
 requested. Is my syntax faulty?

 You propably have machines with ps/2 mouse and keyboards. The
 irq 12 is sort of reserved for these. If 10 is free, why not use it. One
 thing you might try is fiddling with the irq and settings with the dos 
 based 3c5x9cfg.exe program, that comes with the normal driver package
 from 3com (you can download this from www.3com.com). 
  
 Ben Pfaff indicated that his card requires a special option before the
 kernel can hear it. I can find no such indication for the EtherLink III
 card, but his experience seems similar to mine. Can anyone clue me in?

 This is from Donald Becker's site 
(http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/3c509.html) :

No received packets 
If a 3c509, 3c562 or 3c589 can successfully transmit packets, but never 
receives packets (as reported by
/proc/net/dev or 'ifconfig') you likely have an interrupt line problem. 
Check /proc/interrupts to verify that the
card is actually generating interrupts. If the interrupt count is not 
increasing you likely have a physical conflict
with two devices trying to use the same ISA IRQ line. The common conflict 
is with a sound card on IRQ10 or
IRQ5. The easiest solution is to move the 3c509 to a different interrupt 
line. 

 And let's move this to -user, as it's the proper forum. 

--j




Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?

1999-05-16 Thread Debian Mail
 The only think I can think of is there's another program, more
 specifically a TSR that's running resident in the background causing
 modprobe to report with this error.  Are you sure that you don't
 have lpd running in the background and that you have unloaded any
 other possibly conflicting modules that may take up your IRQ or use
 the parrallel port?

I killed lpd and rmmod lp. Now lsmod gives me:

Module  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate39940   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp3568   0  (autoclean)
appletalk  17472   0  (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1   2020   1  (autoclean)
nls_cp437   3548   1  (autoclean)
sg  4080   0  (unused)
ppp18956   2  [ppp_deflate bsd_comp]
slhc4392   1  [ppp]
dummy716   0  (unused)
serial 19852   2
parport_probe   2884   0  (autoclean) (unused)
unix   10012   9  (autoclean)
parport 7028   0  [parport_probe]
vfat   11408   1
smbfs  25944   0  (unused)
nfs30136   0  (unused)
lockd  31240   0  [nfs]
sunrpc 52420   0  [nfs lockd]


Trying modprobe ppa still gives the 'Device or resource busy' error.
The drive works under windows 95. There the parallel port uses IRQ 7.
here in linux cat /proc/interrupts gives:

   CPU0
  0: 168531  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   2588  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  3:  43548  XT-PIC  serial
  4:   1906  XT-PIC  serial
  8:  2  XT-PIC  rtc
 13:  0  XT-PIC  fpu
 14:  90398  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:  4  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0



Any other suggestions?

Stef


Re: netscape, navigator, communicator...

1999-05-16 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
Pere Camps wrote:


 What's the bare minimum if I want to have just a 'lightweith'
 netscape 4.5 browser?


if you want just a browser, use the netscape4.5 package. (there is now the 4.51
version)
if you have motif, download the dynamic version else download the static.

if you want to use netscape to read your mail you have to download the 
communicator
(perhaps)



Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread J Horacio MG
~ This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
~ /hda1 40MB
~ swap   hda2 8MB
~ /usr  hda3  68MB
~ swap   hdb1  8MB
~ /usr  hdb2  250MB
~ 
~ where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
~ Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
~ partitions or will X complain?

I think you could split /usr across two different partitions by making
the second a symlink to the first, eg. name hdb2 partition something
like /usr2 and make it a symlink to /usr.

Horacio


Re: Temporaly disable program

1999-05-16 Thread Michael Laing
I like to remove the execute flags from the startup script in init.d. in
this case.

Then when the system boots and when it shuts down, I get a console
message that the daemon is not starting or stopping, reminding me that I
have disabled it.

For example, you could as root 'chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gpm', disabling
gpm at bootup.

When you want to play with it just 'chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gpm;
/etc/init.d/gpm start'.

I got this tip from this list some time back and often use it for
fooling with new daemons.

Michael Laing


 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:20:45 +0200 (MET DST)
 From: Urban Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 
 Hi,
 
 I've installed a program (gpm to more precise) and I want to
 disable/enable it for the next booting. Remove/install every time I want
 to experiment would be weird. Any ideas are wellcome
 
 Gabor Urban --- Lufthansa Systems Hungaria KfT
 mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tel : (36)-1-431-2949 Fax :(36)-1-431-2977
 I am not a cat to play with the mouse.


Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread Rob
 ~ This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
 ~ /hda1 40MB
 ~ swap   hda2 8MB
 ~ /usr  hda3  68MB
 ~ swap   hdb1  8MB
 ~ /usr  hdb2  250MB
 ~ 
 ~ where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
 ~ Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
 ~ partitions or will X complain?
 
 I think you could split /usr across two different partitions by making
 the second a symlink to the first, eg. name hdb2 partition something
 like /usr2 and make it a symlink to /usr.

Not quite, because then what would you call the *real* /usr (since the name
/usr is already taken by a symlink ;)


Re: Why sendmail rather than qmail

1999-05-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 18:01:51 +0200, I wrote:
 On Sat, May 01, 1999 at 21:10:13 +0530, M.K.Pai wrote:
  Even more puzzling, why does qmail go in as non-free ?
 
 qmail is not free software. The qmail license prohibits Debian from
 redistributing binaries, as the require prior approval by the qmail
 author.

It has been pointed out to me that qmail binaries are distributable under a
strict set of conditions (ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/dist.html).
So be it; I stand corrected.

This in no way changes qmail's non-freeness.

Ray
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running scripts (manual and auto)

1999-05-16 Thread J Horacio MG
I usually download mail from my ISP by running the following command as
user horacio:

$ fetchmail -v -a -u my_id

and I just created a script with that line and named it
/home/horacio/getmail:

- start getmail -
#!/bin/sh

fetchmail -v -a -u my_id
- end getmail -

and gave it executable permissions(0777):

1 -rwxrwxrwx   1 horacio  horacio

This works providing I run it like:

$ ./getmail

but how can I make it ran as a normal command (without ./).
Also, I created another script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/:

- start script -
#/bin/sh

fetchmail -f /home/horacio/.fetchmailrc -a -u a4608456

runq
- end script -

named it 02fetchmail, and gave it the following permissions:

1 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root

so that it fetchs mail from my ISP at connection, but this one doesn't
work at all... what's wrong with it?  I too have another two scripts in
the same directory:

- start 01sendmail -
#!/bin/sh

# Flush exim queue
if [ -x /usr/sbin/exim ]; then
/usr/sbin/exim -qf
fi
- end 01sendmail -

(actually, this is just the default exim script renamed), and:

- start 00time -
#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/rdate -s slug.ctv.es
/sbin/hwclock --systohc
- end 00time -

I think these two work (don't really know for sure).

TIA

Horacio


dselect problem

1999-05-16 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
today I try to see if there's someting to install but running dselect
with apt I found this in the select zone of dselect:
I don't understand why this packages are in Obsolete.
In fact I find the downloaded Packages list is empty.

Waht have I to do ?


my source_list :
deb  ftp://ftp.jussieu.fr/pub2/linux/distributions/debian unstable main
contrib non-free
deb http://pandora.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main
non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/debian potato rkrusty

some over info :
=
:/root # cat
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.jussieu.fr_pub2_linux_distributions_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Relea

se
Archive: unstable
Component: main
Version: 2.2
Origin: Debian
Label: Debian
Architecture: i386

=
/root # ls -l
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.jussieu.fr_pub2_linux_distributions_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages

-rw-r--r--   1 root root0 May 15 14:27
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.jussieu.fr_pub2_linux_distributions_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages

=

- All packages -
--- Obsolete and local packages present on system ---
- Obsolete/local Required packages -
--- Obsolete/local Required packages in section base ---
 *** Req base adduser  3.8 none
 *** Req base ae   962-23  none
 *** Req base base-files   2.1.6   none
 *** Req base base-passwd  2.0.3.3 none
 *** Req base bash 2.02.1-1.4  none
 *** Req base bsdutils 2.9i-1  none
 *** Req base debianutils  1.11none
 *** Req base diff 2.7-18  none
 *** Req base dpkg 1.4.1.1 none
 *** Req base e2fsprogs1.14-2  none
 *** Req base fileutils4.0-1.1 none
 *** Req base findutils4.1-34  none
 *** Req base grep 2.3-2   none
 *** Req base gzip 1.2.4-29none
 *** Req base hostname 2.04none
 *** Req base kbd  0.97-1  none
 *** Req base kbd-data 0.97-1  none
 *** Req base ldso 1.9.11-2none


URGENT to DEBIAN

1999-05-16 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

is empty.

If I do a mistake excuse me.


Re: running scripts (manual and auto)

1999-05-16 Thread ktb
J Horacio MG wrote:
 
 I usually download mail from my ISP by running the following command as
 user horacio:
 
 $ fetchmail -v -a -u my_id
 
 and I just created a script with that line and named it
 /home/horacio/getmail:
 
 - start getmail -
 #!/bin/sh
 
 fetchmail -v -a -u my_id
 - end getmail -
 
 and gave it executable permissions(0777):
 
 1 -rwxrwxrwx   1 horacio  horacio
 
 This works providing I run it like:
 
 $ ./getmail
 
 but how can I make it ran as a normal command (without ./).

I place my Perl scripts in /usr/local/bin.  I would think that would
work for you.  I can't help you with the next one:(
hth,
kent


 Also, I created another script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/:
 
 - start script -
 #/bin/sh
 
 fetchmail -f /home/horacio/.fetchmailrc -a -u a4608456
 
 runq
 - end script -
 
 named it 02fetchmail, and gave it the following permissions:
 
 1 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root
 
 so that it fetchs mail from my ISP at connection, but this one doesn't
 work at all... what's wrong with it?  I too have another two scripts in
 the same directory:
 
 - start 01sendmail -
 #!/bin/sh
 
 # Flush exim queue
 if [ -x /usr/sbin/exim ]; then
 /usr/sbin/exim -qf
 fi
 - end 01sendmail -
 
 (actually, this is just the default exim script renamed), and:
 
 - start 00time -
 #!/bin/sh
 /usr/sbin/rdate -s slug.ctv.es
 /sbin/hwclock --systohc
 - end 00time -
 
 I think these two work (don't really know for sure).
 
 TIA
 
 Horacio
 
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Re: PPP woes

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 JH == John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JH David Teague writes:
 ppp has not been in default kernels I use.

JH Only if you did not select it as a module when you installed.

And even than, I believe all modules are installed, you just select
which modules should be loaded by default. You can still select a
module with modconf. Or uncomment auto in /etc/modules.

BTW: the message kernel lacks ppp support could also mean the
original poster used a wrong device name like /dev/ttys1 instead of
/dev/ttyS1. 

Ciao,
Martin


DHCP small problem

1999-05-16 Thread jean-Yves BARBIER
Hi,

I'm running under 2.2.7 kernel, using DHCP with my cable modem. Each time I 
forgot to remove the 'dhcp-client' file in
/var/db,  at reboot dhcp is very very slow and often can't get me my IP adresse.
How can I automatically remove this file at the shutdown?
(beeing with Linux for less than a month, so I don't know how to program bash 
yet)
JY
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Re: packages for dialing isp

1999-05-16 Thread Thorsten Manegold
Hi!
AFAIK kppp does not like to have lock set in /etc/ppp/options. Commenting it
out made kppp work for me.

HTH
Thorsten Manegold

On 14-May-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 5/13/99 5:24:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 How about x-isp or kppp (for KDE users)?  If you use x-isp (you can search
  xisp on Yahoo for the URL) you will first need to install xforms.
  
  I might have the URL for x-isp.  I will send it to you if I find it.
  kppp is for KDE but xisp will work with any window manager.
  
 
 YMMV - I tried KPPP (I do have KDE installed) and could never get a 
 successfull connection.  I can dial using any other means without problems, 
 but KPPP refuses to do the job.  XISP is nice, but I couldn't get it to dial 
 over 38,000kbps for me for some reason.  WVDial is what I use now.  It's not 
 graphic, but does the job, and does it well.  I'd love to find an app that 
 works AND will dock in KDE's panel - but so far, no such luck.
 
 -Jay
 
 
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Re: running scripts (manual and auto)

1999-05-16 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I cannot explain why your case does not work. But I think it is more 
convient to use the fetchmail
in the following way.

put a fetchmail, like your script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/. and then put a 
fetchmailrc mail
in your root directory, and run fetchmail as root. In your fetchmailrc, 
have something like
user horacio there has password  is user horacio here.

then root will forward all these mails to user horacio. You can then 
use .forward with procmail
or exim to do the fitering...

Hope this helps...

shao.

On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 02:48:42PM +0200, J Horacio MG wrote:
 I usually download mail from my ISP by running the following command as
 user horacio:
 
 $ fetchmail -v -a -u my_id
 
 and I just created a script with that line and named it
 /home/horacio/getmail:
 
 - start getmail -
 #!/bin/sh
 
 fetchmail -v -a -u my_id
 - end getmail -
 
 and gave it executable permissions(0777):
 
 1 -rwxrwxrwx   1 horacio  horacio
 
 This works providing I run it like:
 
 $ ./getmail
 
 but how can I make it ran as a normal command (without ./).
 Also, I created another script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/:
 
 - start script -
 #/bin/sh
 
 fetchmail -f /home/horacio/.fetchmailrc -a -u a4608456
 
 runq
 - end script -
 
 named it 02fetchmail, and gave it the following permissions:
 
 1 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root
 
 so that it fetchs mail from my ISP at connection, but this one doesn't
 work at all... what's wrong with it?  I too have another two scripts in
 the same directory:
 
 - start 01sendmail -
 #!/bin/sh
 
 # Flush exim queue
 if [ -x /usr/sbin/exim ]; then
 /usr/sbin/exim -qf
   fi
 - end 01sendmail -
 
 (actually, this is just the default exim script renamed), and:
 
 - start 00time -
 #!/bin/sh
 /usr/sbin/rdate -s slug.ctv.es
 /sbin/hwclock --systohc
 - end 00time -
 
 I think these two work (don't really know for sure).
 
 TIA
 
 Horacio
 
 
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Re: VIM questions

1999-05-16 Thread Dave Swegen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 21:06 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:15:05PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
  1) For some reason vim inists on showing file stats at the bottom of the
  screen whenever I edit a file. It isn't too bad normally, but when I
  invoked from mutt it waits for me to press a key. Very annoying. How do I
  get rid of that behaviour?
 
 I'd love to know how to shut that thing off as well.  Completely unneeded
 and annoying as all hell.  

Just figured it out: the culprit is the ruler option. Turn it off and the
evil goes away...Bummer, really, as the ruler is slightly useful...

 
  2) How do I make use the dark background syntax settings?
 
 Set them up in a local directory and have the local directory override the
 global syntax directory.

OK, I feel a bit dumb, but how do I do that?

 
  3) In the long running debian coding standards debate on devel, it was
  mentioned that tabs shouldn't be used to indent, but spaces instead. How do
  I set up vim to insert n amount of spaces when I press the TAB key? Or is
  there some other key that is used for that purpose?
 
 Here's from my .vimrc
 
 set tabstop=2
 set expandtab
 
 expandtab is the one that will automatically set tabs to spaces.

Great! Just what I was looking for...

Cheers
Dave

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Re: VIM questions

1999-05-16 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sun, 16 May 1999 14:29:08 +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:

Just figured it out: the culprit is the ruler option. Turn it off and the
evil goes away...Bummer, really, as the ruler is slightly useful...

Bugger.

  2) How do I make use the dark background syntax settings?
 Set them up in a local directory and have the local directory override 
 the global syntax directory.

OK, I feel a bit dumb, but how do I do that?

Uhm, not sure.  Go to the VIM home page and follow the links to the
Windows version.  I know, Windows, boo.  But the guy has an example of how to
do it on his web page.  :)

Great! Just what I was looking for...

You're welcome.

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Re: font vga11x19, bitchx

1999-05-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 21:07:49 +0200, Johan Pettersson wrote:
 Were can I find font vga11x19 ?

As /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/vga11x19.pcf.gz in the Debian bitchx
package.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: PPP problems.

1999-05-16 Thread Daniel Sladic
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]John Hasler writes
Daniel Sladic writes:
 Anyone know offhand what is causing this problem or what I can do to
 figure out what is the problem?

Did you run pppconfig?  If so, post your /etc/chatscripts/provider,
/etc/ppp/peers/provider, and the output of the 'plog' command.  If not, put
the options file back the way it was and run pppconfig.
-- 

 Well, I got it to work but I am no less confused. pppconfig by itself was
not a help, but I found out if I use a chatscript rather than logging in
manually it worked. In the latter case, I just commented out the connect
line in the options file. Of course I was doing the logging in manually
to make sure the problem wasn't in the chatscripts. Now does that make
any sense?

 Oh, and it didn't help that the pon man page doesn't say it takes arguments.

 Dan.


Re: Cubic mouse cursor

1999-05-16 Thread Rene Hojbjerg Larsen
[x] Emailed to author   [x] Sent to mailing list

David R. Kohel wrote:
 Anyone know how to get rid of this 2x2 cm mouse cursor under X? 
 
 I just re-installed X (3.3.3.1) from potato.

You REALLY need to give some more information.  At the very least, we need
to know which graphics card and which X server you are using.

Also, you might want to go to a virtual console and run

$ X :1 -probeonly  probe.log 21

This will create a file named probe.log with the startup messages from
the X server.  If there are any anomalous messages, please post them as
well.

You night also want to check http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-svga (modify
for the X server you use) to see if anyone else has reported similar
problems.

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Re: Wierd PPP Problems

1999-05-16 Thread Peter Ludwig
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Jonathan Guthrie wrote:
 
 On 13 May 1999, John Hasler wrote:
 
 Snip out sections not of interest to my mail

   Of course, I have no way of knowing if Mr. Hoover did this, but asking on
   this list about ISP connection difficulties without consulting the ISP
   first is probably not the best way to go.
  
  I'm sure that this is not true of your company, but almost all ISP's would
  tell Mr. Hoover We do not support Linux and refuse to listen to his
  problem.
 
 You misunderstand.  I'm not telling you or Mr. Hoover to ask the ISP what
 the problem is, only what a disconnect code (or however it's done on
 their system) is.  Since that is independent of the operating system you
 use, it doesn't matter what you're running.  You should NEVER expect
 telephone technical support to solve your problems, you should only expect
 them to provide the information you need to solve your own problems.  (If
 they happen to be able to tell you what the problem is, that should be
 viewed as a happy windfall.)

For a little side-note here, in Oz (that's australia) we have set of
government regulations governing what steps are the best to take if we
have problems with our telecommunications company(s) (even ISP's fall
under this category).

However, I would most certainly agree with Mr Hasler about the fact that
most ISP's will say sorry no-do-linux and that's it.  I myself was
connected with one of the big ISP's here in Oz, and well, they decided
that not supporting linux was going to be a big thing for them.  You
obviously run an ISP, so... how's this one, would you answer this
question if it was asked of you?

When I'm connecting to the server my ppp connection requires the
remote-ip address.  What is the remote IP address for your system for
dial-up accounts?

They decided that they could not provide me with that information...
How's a guy supposed to connect ANYTHING other than win95/98 to their
system?

BTW - It was dynamic IP addressing, with the remote end not providing it's
IP address for the connection, so pppd would not work properly...

regards,
Peter Ludwig



wp8 and tab

1999-05-16 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Somehow, im my wordperfect, the TAB does not work. This is really 
holding
me up.

Does anyone know how to fix it??

Thx

Shao.

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Re: Cubic mouse cursor

1999-05-16 Thread David R. Kohel
The x probe output is below.  I'm using the SVGA server with a
Neomagic card.  

The cursor appears as a large square with upper left hand corner 
at the mouse point, replacing the normal arrow symbol.  I've got 
no other problems with the xserver.

If anyone has seen this and has a fix I'd appreciate it.  

Thanks,

--David

 [x] Emailed to author   [x] Sent to mailing list
 
 David R. Kohel wrote:
  Anyone know how to get rid of this 2x2 cm mouse cursor under X? 
  
  I just re-installed X (3.3.3.1) from potato.
 
 You REALLY need to give some more information.  At the very least, we need
 to know which graphics card and which X server you are using.
 
 Also, you might want to go to a virtual console and run
 
 $ X :1 -probeonly  probe.log 21
 
 This will create a file named probe.log with the startup messages from
 the X server.  If there are any anomalous messages, please post them as
 well.
 
 You night also want to check http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-svga (modify
 for the X server you use) to see if anyone else has reported similar
 problems.
 
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XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 4 1999
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.1ide1 i586 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0):
  NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, RIVATNT, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i,
  ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a,
  ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100,
  et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33,
  gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225,
  sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b,
  tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b,
  tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
  tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685,
  cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975,
  3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428,
  clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462,
  clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541,
  clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e,
  cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200,
  mgag100, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301,
  ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7,
  ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_virge,
  AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160,
  NM2200, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,
  ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200,
  ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2x00, p9100, spc8110, generic
(using VT number 8)

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: NeoMagic (laptop/notebook)
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: My Monitor
(--) SVGA: Mode 640x400 needs vert refresh rate of 85.08 Hz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 640x480 needs vert refresh rate of 75.00 Hz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) SVGA: PCI: NeoMagic NM2070 rev 1, Memory @ 0x3fe0
(--) SVGA: chipset:  NM2070
(**) SVGA: videoram: 1024k
(**) SVGA: clocks:  25.20  28.30  40.00
(**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 65.000 MHz
(--) SVGA: NM2070: Removing mode (640x400) that won't display properly on LCD
(**) SVGA: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  40.000
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 800x600
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
(--) SVGA: NeoMagic MagicGraph 128 (NM2070) chip
(--) SVGA: NM2070: Panel is a 800x600 color TFT display
(--) SVGA: NM2070: Internal LCD only display mode
(--) SVGA: NM2070: Video modes are displayed in the upper-left corner
(--) SVGA: NM2070: Low resolution video modes are stretched
(--) SVGA: NM2070: MMIO registers at 0x3FF0
(--) SVGA: NM2070: Linear framebuffer at 

Re: running scripts (manual and auto)

1999-05-16 Thread David B.Teague


On Sun, 16 May 1999, Kent (ktb) wrote on behalf of Horacio:

Horacio:
  but how can I make it ran as a normal command (without ./).

Kent:
 I place my Perl scripts in /usr/local/bin.  I would think that would
 work for you.  I can't help you with the next one:(
 hth,
 kent

Horacio:

If you put the script in /usr/local/bin and that directory is in
your path, as Kent says, you will be able to run the scripts there
by typeing the command name.  That directory is in my default
directory, and should be in yours.

If you want to run a script that resides in your home directory,
you probably should just type ./script_name to run it, since there
is no . (refers to current, i.e. working, directory)  in the
default path. This has to do with safety from executing trojan
horses. 

If you insist on running stuff from your current directory,
without the ./, then add  .  to your path by placing this line
in your .profile, or .bash_profile

export PATH=$PATH:.

If you run tcsh or other shell, someone else will have to help.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (Hope this qualifies.)



Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-16 Thread Kris

At 08:32 16/05/1999 +, you wrote:
I have a working ppp on kernel 2.2.9. my pppd command is

exec /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 115200 lock modem crtscts \
 asyncmap 0 defaultroute connect $DIALER_SCRIPT
pppd --version
(pppd version 2.3 patch level 5)

egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
domain mindspring.com
mru 1500
mtu 1500
name login-name

 I don't recall making any changes to the above when going to the 2.2.x
kernel.  The only differences I can see are what i show above.

Nope. None of that makes any difference. I've now tried downgrading to 
PPP(d) 2.3.5, and upgrading to 2.3.8. I don't think it's anything to do 
with DNS, but here are a few things:


# cat /etc/resolv.conf
domain globalnet.co.uk  # - Tried with, without,
search globalnet.co.uk  # - and combinations of.
nameserver 194.126.82.5
nameserver 194.126.86.9

# /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   splodge localhost loopback
Minus loopback, no change. Splodge is current hostname.

# /etc/inetd.conf
discard daytime timetalk
ntalk   shell   login   exec
smtpident

inetd.conf shouldn't matter if it works in 2.0.36.

Someone might need a good LARTing over this but it's probably just me.

Still seeking help on this...

Thanks,
 Kris


majordomo

1999-05-16 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

I'm trying to setup majordomo and I'm having difficulty with it.

Can somebody please send me his configuration for a working list?
Please send me /etc/aliases, /etc/majordomo.cf, and the contents of the
/var/lib/majordomo/lists/sample-list* files?

Thanks a lot in advance.

-- p.


blocked SMTP port issue...

1999-05-16 Thread flip
Have an interesting question here

I live in On-Campus housing at RIT...my machine is on the Residential
Networks with a full time net connection.  Some time ago, RIT decided
that it would be a good idea if they were to block off all SMTP
connections to machines on the Residential Netowrk.  I've talked to
people about this, and I can't say that I find this completley
unreasonable.  But that doesn't mean that I don't want to get around
it... :)

I'm currently pulling mail down to my machine via fetchmail and dealing
with it normally from there (they don't block outgoing mail ports...).
However, I'd like to be able to deliver mail to other accounts,
majordomo lists, etc.  

I've talked to the fellow who administers the octoraro.org domain (my 
machine's got a name on that domain...) and he's willing to apply whatever 
fix I come up with, but I've got to figure it all out... :)

My machine is a Potato setup running smail as the mail deamon.  I have
no particular attachment to smail.  The upstream server is running
RedHat and Sendmail.  He does have an attachment to that particular
deamon.  

Is there some way that either : 
I can have smail listen to a different port (no problem) and somehow
direct incoming traffic to that port instead of port 25?  (and not from
my machine)
OR
have the upstream server bundle all mail for meteu into one
/var/spool/mail file which I can grab via fetchmail and redistribute
locally?

I've heard that IP tunneling may also provide a way around this, but
I've not found any HOWTOs on IP tunneling...

Thanks,
 - flip

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How to Start Gnome at boot

1999-05-16 Thread John Foster
I seem to remember seeing somewhere (and I can't find it now) a
reference to starting the Gnome-session command with the xdm display
manager at boot up. I want to start Gnome in the IceGnome window manager
and possibly with Enlightenment. I need to know which files to edit
specifically and the exact syntax to include. Any suggstions would be
appreciated. BTW; I did search the archives.
Thanks!
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Mouse not recognized (but RedHat works fine)

1999-05-16 Thread Stuart Ballard
I have a dual-boot RedHat 5.2 / Debian Slink system. The RedHat system
has a symlink /dev/mouse - /dev/cua1 and works fine with both gpm and
X. However, gpmconfig and X both fail to recognize the mouse at all
under Debian. I've tried both allowing gpmconfig to guess the device (it
always guesses ttyS0, which is my modem) and specifying ttyS1 on the
command line. Either way, it receives no packets at all. In X, the mouse
doesn't move at all.

The mouse is a logitech 3-button mouse, and I'm pretty sure the protocol
should be mman in gpm (or MouseMan in X). I've also tried ms (and
Microsoft in X) which is what the redhat system uses. Nothing gives me
any mouse movement at all.

Does anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this? Thank you very
much in advance,
Stuart.


Sound

1999-05-16 Thread Ali Onur UYAR
Hello.

I've got a running Debian Slink system,  I've been using Debian since Hamm had
become stable.
Now that I have time for it, I would like to configure sound support. I have
Sounblaster  16 sound card that works properly under NT,  which  I use quite
rarely.

From some of the postings to this list I have figured that I have to use isapnp
utils.
pnpdump  /etc/isapnp.conf
Then edit /etc/isapnp.conf to set irq, dma etc.

And now for the questions:
What do I do next?
Where do I get the sound module from?
How do I install it?
How do I test that sound is working before installing new software?

Any pointers for information are welcome.

TIA


RE: DHCP small problem

1999-05-16 Thread Shaleh

On 16-May-99 jean-Yves BARBIER wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running under 2.2.7 kernel, using DHCP with my cable modem. Each time I
 forgot to remove the 'dhcp-client' file in
 /var/db,  at reboot dhcp is very very slow and often can't get me my IP
 adresse.
 How can I automatically remove this file at the shutdown?
 (beeing with Linux for less than a month, so I don't know how to program bash
 yet)
 JY

Short term solution:

place a file called clean_dhcp in /etc/init.d.  chmod +x said file

BEGIN
#!/bin/sh

if [ -f /var/db/dhcp-client ]
then
echo Cleaning old old dhcp information
rm -f /var/db/dhcp-client
fi
END

then cd /etc/rcS.d and make a symlink to the clean_dhcp script named
'S60clean_dhcp'.  The name ensures it is run last in that section.

The above script test if the file exists (-f) and if so run echo and rm.  if I
have the file placement wrong, feel free to change the path.

Long term:

Contact the dhcp client maint and have this problem looked into as one should
not have to remove this file.


how to install netscape

1999-05-16 Thread pedrob - strm




 hello all :)

 im having troubles installing netscape. so, i would like to know
 if there is any how-to explaining the install process of netscape
 (.deb) in debian 


 thanks'


GNOME minor problems

1999-05-16 Thread Stuart Ballard
I recently managed to get GNOME from potato installed onto my hybrid
slink/potato system (despite the dire warnings I've heard, I have had no
problems from the conflicting glibc versions - apt seems to have dealt
with it very well).

The only problem I had was a missing dependency somewhere that meant I
was able to get the whole thing installed without ever installing (the
right version of) imlib-base, so everything core-dumped. I spotted this
by doing apt-get -s dist-upgrade, and looking for anything relevant.
Should I file a bug on this somewhere? if so, what package?

Now for the current issue (it's a minor one, but infuriating). When I
download a GTK theme from themes.org and try to install it from the
GNOME control center, everything gives the appearance of working fine -
but only a few of the settings from the new theme are applied. The ones
that seem to be applied are basic coloring and font changes. Everything
else (ie border styles, special images for buttons, pixmap backgrounds,
gradients... basically all the cool bits) are ignored.

A couple of other minor things:
* My menus don't animate, despite the fact that I selected that they
should in the control center. is this a bug?
* Is there a way to get E to animate minimizing and unminimizing? It's
the only window operation that I don't get animated feedback on, and
it's a bit disconcerting.
* Both E and GNOME want to control the background. I can disable setting
it from GNOME, but I'd rather let GNOME do it and disable it in E. Is
there a way to do that?

Other than that, let me just say that Gnome *rocks*. Kudos to the GNOME
team, and the Debian people that packaged it all up for us. You guys
rock. I've used KDE for ages, and found it amazing to start with, but
right from the start I had little annoyances, that grew into big
annoyances over time. GNOME seems to avoid all of them... I haven't
found any yet!

Stuart.


Re: Sound

1999-05-16 Thread flip
Heh... :) Just went through almost the exact same installation myself a 
couple of days ago...

All you really need to do is check your kernel...if you roll your own,
go to the sound section, include sound support...Soundblaster stuff is
under the additional OSS modules section...

If you use one of the prebuilts...(not sure 'bout this, since I
roll-my-own...), you should be able to just install the sb module:
modprobe sb irq=5 dma=1 io=0x220 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
replace the argumet values with whatever is appropriate to your setup...

As that is a lot to remember, you should probably add that line to your
/etc/modules file for automatic loading at boottime... :)

% cat /proc/sound 
should give you a decent clue if the card is installed and funcitonal...

 - flip

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Re: Mouse not recognized (but RedHat works fine)

1999-05-16 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Mouse not recognized (but RedHat works fine)
Date: Sun, May 16, 1999 at 11:24:25AM -0400

In reply to:Stuart Ballard

Quoting Stuart Ballard([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I have a dual-boot RedHat 5.2 / Debian Slink system. The RedHat system
 has a symlink /dev/mouse - /dev/cua1 and works fine with both gpm and
 X. However, gpmconfig and X both fail to recognize the mouse at all
 under Debian. I've tried both allowing gpmconfig to guess the device (it
 always guesses ttyS0, which is my modem) and specifying ttyS1 on the
 command line. Either way, it receives no packets at all. In X, the mouse
 doesn't move at all.
 
 The mouse is a logitech 3-button mouse, and I'm pretty sure the protocol
 should be mman in gpm (or MouseMan in X). I've also tried ms (and
 Microsoft in X) which is what the redhat system uses. Nothing gives me
 any mouse movement at all.
 

I have a 3 button Logitech Trackball that works in every dist I have
tried. Here is some info thet 'may' help.

ls /dev/mouse
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root5 Jan 19 15:29 /dev/mouse - ttyS1 

less /etc/gpm.confless /etc/gpm.conf
device=/dev/ttyS1
type=mman
append=-a 3

less /etc/X11/XF86Config
[snip]
Section Pointer
   ProtocolMouseman
   Device  /dev/mouse
EndSection
[snip]


You don't mention which kernel you are using.  The 2.2.x series has
changed the use of cua device names.  From the kernel Changes file
   Also, please remember that cua* devices are now obsolete.  Switch to
the corresponding ttyS* device instead (e.g., cua0 - ttyS0, cua1 -
ttyS1, etc.).

Hope this Helps!


-- 
 Time, adj.:
  Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then.
___
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Re: DHCP small problem

1999-05-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running under 2.2.7 kernel, using DHCP with my cable modem. Each time I
 forgot to remove the 'dhcp-client' file in /var/db,  at reboot dhcp is very
 very slow and often can't get me my IP adresse.

Help me out: I am using dhcpcd on a slink-level install, and I don't have
either this file or a problem renegotiating the lease and ip when I reboot.

Am I missing something?


--
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at
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font

1999-05-16 Thread Johan Pettersson
Hi!

When I run in non X-mode I think my font is too big!
How do I change it ? 

-- 
//thx Johan


Re: Thanks: Installing on a SCSI HD

1999-05-16 Thread David B.Teague
On Sun, 16 May 1999, Davide Anchisi wrote:

 Subject: Thanks: Installing on a SCSI HD

 Hi David,
 I hope your exams went well.

Hi Davide

My students' exams went well, thanks for asking. Mine was 
not as good as I want, but in playing double bass, I am
my own worst enemy. I expect perfection and seldom get it. ;

  If you will tell me what your system requires, then after my exams 
  are over, i.e. after May 15, I will compile a kernel and make the 
  kernel available for down load.  
 
  This is my sistem:  
 
  486 processor
  16 Mb RAM 
  Math coprocessor 
  Floppy disk 
 IDE HD (with windows95: VFAT)  
 IDE/ATAPI CDROM (ISO9660) 
 SCSI host adapter: Adaptec AHA-1510 
 SCSI HD 
 Serial mouse (3 buttons)  
 Sound card: SoundBlaster Pro2 
 Italian keyboard (and language)  
 Modem

 Is this enough?

Probably enough for me to compile a kernel.

 What about the compiled kernel? Have I to put it in a rescue-disk? 
 and, if so, how? Or have I to install debian 2.1 after booting
 from the floppy with the new kernel? and, if so, how to put it
 on a boot floppy and how to install debian? 

Once you have a kernel compiled with AHA 1510 support, you follow the
instructions on the floppy. The boot floppy is an MS-DOS disk with
syslinux installed on it. I thought the README on the boot floppy was
more useful to me as a newbie than the syslinux usage instructions and
manual, syslinux.doc.

With regard to how to replace the kernel on the floppy: From DOS (a
DOS window in WIN 95 is sufficient) do a dir with your Linux boot
floppy in the drive. The floppy has a file called linux on it.  This
file is the kernel. You replace this file with your new kernel. There
is README that talks about this.  There are some other things, but you
need to get a kernel that will boot and see your SCSI controller
first.

Once you have the floppy boot the system, you have a small Debian
linux 2.1 system running. You follow the menu to install the 7
base floppies, then reboot and run dselect, choosing the apt
access method. This is important, as apt will avoid the
frustrations of rerunning configure 4 or 5 times.

I suggest you not worry about sound for now, so I won't build in sound
with the first kernel. I will try to create modules for your sound
card.  We can ask on the mailing list if you have trouble configuring
your sound card, as I have limited experience with sould cards.


Meanwhile I'll compile a kernel and figure out where to put for your
access. I'll get back to you in a day or two.

Good Luck to you!

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (Hope this qualifies!)





Re: update-menus, does it work? UPDATE 2

1999-05-16 Thread Lazarus Long
On Friday, May 14, 1999 at 15:53:16 -0800, Adam Shand wrote:

  so it looks like root isn't supposed to be able to do this.

This may be because root account is intended only for certain
administrative tasks.  For everything else, one should (create and)
use a normal user account.  I don't believe there is much, if anything,
that would require X11 in the list of things that require one to be root
at the time.

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Re: DHCP small problem

1999-05-16 Thread Shaleh

On 16-May-99 Bob Bernstein wrote:
 jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm running under 2.2.7 kernel, using DHCP with my cable modem. Each time I
 forgot to remove the 'dhcp-client' file in /var/db,  at reboot dhcp is very
 very slow and often can't get me my IP adresse.
 
 Help me out: I am using dhcpcd on a slink-level install, and I don't have
 either this file or a problem renegotiating the lease and ip when I reboot.
 
 Am I missing something?
 

I am not experiencing it either.  Unsure as to why he is, which is why I
recommended he mail the maintainer.


Re: Cubic mouse cursor

1999-05-16 Thread David R. Kohel
Yes, thanks.  That did it.  --David

 Hi,
   From this line:  (--) SVGA: NM2070: Using hardware cursor
 
   Probably, you need the option using sw_cursor. Check out the 
   XF86Config man pages to find out exactly how to set it.
 
   I think you need to do something like:
 
   Option sw_cursor
 
   under the device section in your config file
 
   hope this helps..
 Shao.


asclock kills gnome panel

1999-05-16 Thread Micha Feigin
When i try to start the asclock aplet it kills my Gnome panel and when i
restart it, it has forgoten all the settings (a new panel).
I am running potato with kernel 2.2.5 and the latest version on gnome
on a 486dx2 (it has been like this for about the last three updates (i
think it was version 1.0.5)


XKB problem - Please help

1999-05-16 Thread Micha Feigin
I have been trying to solve this problem for some time now but to no
avail.
When i use the XKB extentions for X and i try to set scroll-lock
to mode-lock from XF86Config it doesn't do anything.
xkeycaps doesn't have mode-lock at all.
Also when i try to set up the keboard with xkeycaps to output hebrew
letters (character codes above 128 - i think it's suposed to start at 224
under linux) I don't get any output under any program for these
characters.
I really need to be able to use these characters (for searches undre
netscape mainly).
If anyone can please help me.
Also, is it possible to change the default font under X?
(I'm using enlightment with gnome).
Thanx


Starting programs on local x through telnet

1999-05-16 Thread Micha Feigin
Is it possible to start programs needing x to run through the net (telnet,
rlogin ...). How do i tell them to use my screen?
The program tells me its starting (it has a text output) and then doesn't
do anything else (it's suposed to have a graphical interface). The remote
system is a unix (one of the computers is running linux but it doesn't
have all the relevant programs).
Thanx


Re: MP3 encoder

1999-05-16 Thread Frankie
M.C. Vernon wrote:
 
 please Cc to Me
 
 Hi all,
 
 Things like cdgrip say and your favourite mp3 encoder, or default
 to lamer - but I can find to evidence of a mp3 encoder in the archive.
 Can anyone help me out?
 
 Thanks
 

theres always l3enc... cant remember where I got it from, but the
archive name is dist10.tar.gz, and you want to apply the patch
dist10patch-2.1f.gz. You should be able to find it with ftpsearch -
thats how I found it.

It compiled first time no probs. I suppose someone ought to package up
an mp3 encoder at some point...

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Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-16 Thread Sean
It's not just you.  A couple of days ago I decided that I had pretty much
butchered my Debian installation (which I had installed close to a year
previous), so I decided to do the whole reformat/reinstall maneuver (after
backing up my /home directory, of course).  As I now have the Debian 2.0
CDs, the process was pretty painless.  After I got everything installed, I
immediately downloaded, installed and ran apt-get, and promptly upgraded to
Slink, just as I had done when Slink first went stable.  And now I can't use
any of the 2.0.x kernels AND have ppp work.  I've tried everything that has
been mentioned in this thread, recompiling, moving back to the 2.2.7 kernel,
which had just been working fine on my previous Slink installation, etc all
to no avail.  This is really driving me batty, but I thought you might like
to know (Kris) that it isn't just your machine.  I've just about decided to
try a complete reformat/reinstall, as I've run out of just about all other
options.  I also thought about just using the 2.0.36 kernel, but as I have a
dual PPro system the SMP performance just isn't there.

Oh yes, something else I forgot to mention.  I also put the proposed-updates
link in my sources.list file, and upgraded to the packages present at that
location.  As I had not done this previously, I suspect this is where the
problem is, so I'm thinking about reinstalling, upgrading, and then NOT
upgrading again with the proposed-updates.

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?


At 08:32 16/05/1999 +, you wrote:
 I have a working ppp on kernel 2.2.9. my pppd command is
 
 exec /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 115200 lock modem crtscts \
  asyncmap 0 defaultroute connect $DIALER_SCRIPT
 pppd --version
 (pppd version 2.3 patch level 5)
 
 egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
 domain mindspring.com
 mru 1500
 mtu 1500
 name login-name
 
  I don't recall making any changes to the above when going to the 2.2.x
 kernel.  The only differences I can see are what i show above.

Nope. None of that makes any difference. I've now tried downgrading to
PPP(d) 2.3.5, and upgrading to 2.3.8. I don't think it's anything to do
with DNS, but here are a few things:

# cat /etc/resolv.conf
domain globalnet.co.uk  # - Tried with, without,
search globalnet.co.uk  # - and combinations of.
nameserver 194.126.82.5
nameserver 194.126.86.9

# /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 splodge localhost loopback
Minus loopback, no change. Splodge is current hostname.

# /etc/inetd.conf
discard daytime time talk
ntalk shell login exec
smtp ident

inetd.conf shouldn't matter if it works in 2.0.36.

Someone might need a good LARTing over this but it's probably just me.

Still seeking help on this...

Thanks,
  Kris


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Re: running scripts (manual and auto)

1999-05-16 Thread John Hasler
J Horacio MG writes:
 - start script -
 #/bin/sh

 fetchmail -f /home/horacio/.fetchmailrc -a -u a4608456

 runq
 - end script -

That first line should read #!/bin/sh .
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Re: packages for dialing isp

1999-05-16 Thread John Hasler
Thorsten Manegold writes:
 kppp does not like to have lock set in /etc/ppp/options.

I'd call that a bug in kppp.
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Re: URGENT to DEBIAN

1999-05-16 Thread John Hasler
Khalid writes:
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 is empty.

Something went wrong with a dinstall run.  The archive maintainers know
about the problem.
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Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-16 Thread John Hasler
Kris writes:

 # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 domain globalnet.co.uk  # - Tried with, without,
 search globalnet.co.uk  # - and combinations of.
 nameserver 194.126.82.5
 nameserver 194.126.86.9

The 'domain' and 'search' directives won't affect your problem (In fact
they are rarely needed at all).

 # /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1 splodge localhost loopback
 Minus loopback, no change. Splodge is current hostname.

'loopback' just adds a nickname for localhost.  You don't need it.  You do
want an fqdn in hosts, though.  I use:

127.0.0.1   hasler.dhh  hasler   localhost

This won't affect your problem either, though.

 inetd.conf shouldn't matter if it works in 2.0.36.

inetd.conf shouldn't matter at all for this problem.

 Still seeking help on this...

Wish I could be more help.
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Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-16 Thread Carl Greco
 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:41:21 +1000
 From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
 
  ~ This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
  ~ /hda1 40MB
  ~ swap   hda2 8MB
  ~ /usr  hda3  68MB
  ~ swap   hdb1  8MB
  ~ /usr  hdb2  250MB
  ~ 
  ~ where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
  ~ Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
  ~ partitions or will X complain?
  
  I think you could split /usr across two different partitions by making
  the second a symlink to the first, eg. name hdb2 partition something
  like /usr2 and make it a symlink to /usr.
 
 Not quite, because then what would you call the *real* /usr (since the name
 /usr is already taken by a symlink ;)
 
However, you can symlink sub-directories, e.g., create 
/usr2/share
/usr2/doc
/usr2/local
/usr2/src
/usr2/games
and 
ln -s /usr2/share /usr/share
etc.  

Just make sure that all the information in these /usr subdirectories
are moved to the corresponding /usr2 prior to the symlinks.  For that
reason be VERY careful about applying this to /usr/lib or /usr/bin.

This is also useful if you out grow your original /usr partition.

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Re: Cubic mouse cursor

1999-05-16 Thread Rene Hojbjerg Larsen
[x] Emailed to author   [x] Sent to mailing list

David R. Kohel wrote:
 The x probe output is below.  I'm using the SVGA server with a
 Neomagic card.  
 
 The cursor appears as a large square with upper left hand corner 
 at the mouse point, replacing the normal arrow symbol.  I've got 
 no other problems with the xserver.
 
 If anyone has seen this and has a fix I'd appreciate it.  

It is probably due to a bug in the new X server.  Try doing a search on
http://www.deja.com/ to see if anyone else has the same problem.  As a
workaround, you can add a line saying

Option sw_cursor

to the Device section of your /etx/X11/XF86Config as a workaround.  You
should probably submit a bug report on xserver-svga (man bug) if it hasn't
been done already.  Include all the detail you included in your second
posting here.

HTH.
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Re: GNOME minor problems

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 SB == Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SB The only problem I had was a missing dependency somewhere that
SB meant I was able to get the whole thing installed without ever
SB installing (the right version of) imlib-base, so everything
SB core-dumped.

As you can't be more specific about the packages involved, then I am
afraid it is hardly a useful bugreport, as it can't be reproduced.

SB Now for the current issue (it's a minor one, but
SB infuriating). When I download a GTK theme from themes.org and try
SB to install it from the GNOME control center, everything gives the
SB appearance of working fine - but only a few of the settings from
SB the new theme are applied. The ones that seem to be applied are
SB basic coloring and font changes. Everything else (ie border
SB styles, special images for buttons, pixmap backgrounds,
SB gradients... basically all the cool bits) are ignored.

You are most likely missing one of the gtk-engines-* packages (maybe
the pixmap one). 

Ciao,
Martin


Re: netscape, navigator, communicator...

1999-05-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 PC == Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

PC Can somebody explain me what's in each package and what are their
PC inter-relationships?

Basically it is 

 netscape
navigator   communicator
 smotifdmotifsmotif  dmotif

qualified with the respective version numbers at each step.

PC What's the bare minimum if I want to have just a 'lightweith'
PC netscape 4.5 browser?

Select the navigator-smofif-45 package. apt will fetch all needed
packages as well.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: blocked SMTP port issue...

1999-05-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, 

I have the same problem with my cabel modem provider. 

I am runing MDaemon on port 10025 and use my Dynamic Domain-Name-Provider 
at http://www.tzo.com/ to root the mail to another port. 

I think its port-rooting/forwarding. 

This works with dynamic and fixed IP addresses. 

Webmistress Michelle


Title change in rxvt

1999-05-16 Thread Stefan Baums
Hi all,

I am running tcsh in rxvt. Is there any way to have the title of the rxvt
window change according to the program running in it? (There must be one,
as right now as I am typing this I notice that vim has changed the title
to VIM - /tmp/mutt-sb51-12020-0.)

TIA,
Stefan



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Re: Starting programs on local x through telnet

1999-05-16 Thread Andrew Chung
 Is it possible to start programs needing x to run through the net (telnet,
 rlogin ...). How do i tell them to use my screen?
 The program tells me its starting (it has a text output) and then doesn't
 do anything else (it's suposed to have a graphical interface). The remote
 system is a unix (one of the computers is running linux but it doesn't
 have all the relevant programs).

Yes. Start X on your computer, telnet/ssh/rlogin to the remote comp, set the
DISPLAY and then start whatever program you want. 

DISPLAY should be set to something like youripaddress:0.0 . You might need
to set permissions for this with xhost

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Re: Dselect odd behaviour

1999-05-16 Thread Dan Nguyen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: I'm using dselect under potato using apt to ftp://sunsite.org.uk/
: and something strange seems to have happened. I did an 'update' and
: now all the descriptions have disappeared. Also most of the packages
: I don't have installed have gone. I've tryed updating again but to
: no avail. Any hints on how to deal with this? 

Have you tried another mirror?  Try editing your /etc/apt/source.list
file and use ftp://ftp.debian.org, just to check.  Occasionally
mirrors don't get update correctly.  I've gotten this before when
using the canadian mirror.

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having trouble with kernel 2.2.5 and ppp

1999-05-16 Thread Seth Turner
Hello,

I have recently installed slink from CD on my computer.  With kernel 2.0.36,
I can use ppp and get connected to the internet (pon ourtown), however when
I upgrade my kernel to 2.2.5, I loose ppp.  It complains that LCP times out on
configuration requests.  I will appologize in advance for the length of this 
message, I felt it might help to see what is actually happening.  I am not 
currently subscribed to debian-user, so if anyone could help, would you please 
reply offlist to [EMAIL PROTECTED]   thanks.

History:

In the past I have had ppp and kernel 2.2.5 working properly, howver since this 
new installation, it doesn't work.

I have looked at the pages on www.debian.org in requards to kernel version 2.2.X
Nothing about ppp is mentioned there, that I was able to find.  

In compiling the kernel (2.2.5) it mentions that one might need to upgrade pppd
in order for ppp to work properly.  I am using ppp_2.3.5-2 and also have 
ppp-pam_2.3.5-2 installed (not completely sure what ppp-pam is for).

I have gone through pppconfig again since recompiling the kernel and it did not 
help.  

Modem init is currently ATZ, have also tried ATF.  Neither seem to make a 
difference.

Where the email will get long (again appologies):

Here is what happens in kernel 2.0.36 taken directly from dmesg and ppp.log:

PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
PPP line discipline registered.


May 16 12:54:36 Mahdi pppd[4320]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: abort on (BUSY)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: abort on (VOICE)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: send (ATZ^M)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: expect (OK)
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: ATZ^M^M
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: OK
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]:  -- got it
May 16 12:54:37 Mahdi chat[4321]: send (ATDT6645522^M)
May 16 12:54:38 Mahdi chat[4321]: expect (CONNECT)
May 16 12:54:38 Mahdi chat[4321]: ^M
May 16 12:55:03 Mahdi chat[4321]: ATDT6645522^M^M
May 16 12:55:03 Mahdi chat[4321]: CONNECT
May 16 12:55:03 Mahdi chat[4321]:  -- got it
May 16 12:55:03 Mahdi chat[4321]: send (\d)
May 16 12:55:04 Mahdi pppd[4320]: Serial connection established.
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: Using interface ppp0
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0x6e5e78fd pcomp accomp]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mru 
1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap pcomp accomp  11 04 05 f4  13 09 03 
00 c0 7b 80 31 44]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1  00 04 00 00  11 
04 05 f4  13 09 03 00 c0 7b 80 31 44]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 
magic 0x6e5e78fd pcomp accomp]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap
0xa auth pap pcomp accomp]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap
0xa auth pap pcomp accomp]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x6e5e78fd]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=* 
password=***]


 Note: the asterix in the file were added to hide username and password.


May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: Remote message:
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 0.0.0.0 
compress VJ 0f 01]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01
addr 216.111.133.254]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01
addr 216.111.133.254]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [CCP ConfReq id=0x1  11 06 00 01 01 
03]May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1]
May 16 12:55:05 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [CCP ConfRej id=0x1  11 06 00 01 01 
03]May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 addr 
216.111.133.80]
May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 
216.111.133.80 compress VJ 0f 01]
May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [CCP ConfRej id=0x1]
May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 addr 
216.111.133.80 compress VJ 0f 01]
May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy 
ARP
May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: local  IP address 216.111.133.80
May 16 12:55:06 Mahdi pppd[4320]: remote IP address 216.111.133.254
May 16 12:55:35 Mahdi pppd[4320]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x6e5e78fd]
May 16 12:55:35 Mahdi pppd[4320]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0]
May 16 12:55:43 Mahdi pppd[4320]: 

Re: Get thee behind me emacs20!

1999-05-16 Thread Bob Bernstein
Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's the 'dpkg -r' run; sorry about the length...

 snip 

 xemacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove line 28.
 dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--remove):
  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 29

 snip 

My brute-force frontal attack on this seems to have succeeded. I made these
lines in the above noted script:

sub execute {
  my(@cmd) = @_;
  if($dry_run) {
print join( , @cmd) . \n;
  } else {
if(system(@cmd) != 0) {
  die emacs-$action:  . join( , @cmd) .  failed;
}
  }
}

...look like this:

sub execute {
  my(@cmd) = @_;
}

I'm not sure what I removed, but removing it caused things to move forward
apace, and I apparently then succeeded in removing the emacs20 deb package. 


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