Re: schroot. comment exécuter les scripts de configuration ?

2012-09-10 Thread Guy Roussin
Par ailleurs, l'élément le plus intéressant dans le man par rapport à ton problème est le suivant : type=type […] Note that 'plain' chroots do not run setup scripts and mount filesystems; 'directory' is recommended for normal use (see Plain and directory chroots, below) Or ton

Re: Mauvaise habitude

2012-09-10 Thread Jérôme
Le vendredi 07 septembre 2012 à 14:04 +, Tanguy Ortolo a écrit : Je ne connais pas beaucoup de logiciels de messagerie qui proposent cela. Mutt, Thunderbird aussi visiblement, mais ce n'est pas généralisé, si ? Sous Linux, je crois que si. Pour Evolution CtrlL Par contre c'est mal foutu

Re: [HS] Variables serveur Web php.ini

2012-09-10 Thread Gabriel Euzet
Le 7 septembre 2012 19:50, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : C'est un défaut bien ennuyeux de FireFox, qui n'existe pas avec les autres navigateurs. C'est une problématique purement fonctionnel dont seul l'auteur de l'application web doit décider, aucunement le navigateur. Regarde du

Re: [Digression]: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 9 septembre 2012 à 20:32:12, François Boisson a écrit : […] À ce sujet, su un portable muni d'un disque SSD et de 4G de RAM, vaut-il mieux redémarrer à chaque fois ou mettre en hibernation (avec une écriture sur le disque swap). Le gain de vitesse n'est pas flagrant et peut être

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread maderios
Bonjour J'ai tout repris à 0 : purge de systemd puis boot classique avec file-rc, tous les services lancés normalement au boot. Aucun problème donc avec le système init sysvinit file-rc classique. J'ai réinstallé systemd. Toujours le même problème: aucun service lancé au boot, dont

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:16:17PM +0200, maderios a écrit : Bonjour J'ai tout repris à 0 : purge de systemd puis boot classique avec file-rc, tous les services lancés normalement au boot. Aucun problème donc avec le système init sysvinit file-rc classique. J'ai réinstallé systemd. Toujours

Re: [Digression]: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Le dimanche 9 septembre 2012 à 20:32:12, François Boisson a écrit : […] À ce sujet, su un portable muni d'un disque SSD et de 4G de RAM, vaut-il mieux redémarrer à chaque fois ou mettre en hibernation (avec une écriture sur le disque swap). Le gain de vitesse n'est

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread Frédéric Massot
Le 09/09/2012 12:43, maderios a écrit : Bonjour J'ai installé systemd il y a quelques jours. Je suis obligé de lancer le réseau et cups à la main après chaque boot Dans syslog /sbin/ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory Le message d'erreur que tu

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread maderios
On 09/10/2012 01:21 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: Le 09/09/2012 12:43, maderios a écrit : Bonjour J'ai installé systemd il y a quelques jours. Je suis obligé de lancer le réseau et cups à la main après chaque boot Dans syslog /sbin/ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: No such file

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread maderios
On 09/10/2012 12:23 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:16:17PM +0200, maderios a écrit : Bonjour J'ai tout repris à 0 : purge de systemd puis boot classique avec file-rc, tous les services lancés normalement au boot. Aucun problème donc avec le système init sysvinit file-rc

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread Frédéric Massot
Le 10/09/2012 14:12, maderios a écrit : On 09/10/2012 01:21 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: Le 09/09/2012 12:43, maderios a écrit : Bonjour J'ai installé systemd il y a quelques jours. Je suis obligé de lancer le réseau et cups à la main après chaque boot Dans syslog /sbin/ifup: failed to open

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread maderios
On 09/10/2012 02:41 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: Le 10/09/2012 14:12, maderios a écrit : On 09/10/2012 01:21 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: Le 09/09/2012 12:43, maderios a écrit : Bonjour J'ai installé systemd il y a quelques jours. Je suis obligé de lancer le réseau et cups à la main après chaque

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread Frédéric Massot
Le 10/09/2012 16:09, maderios a écrit : On 09/10/2012 02:41 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: [...] Quels sont les premiers messages d'erreurs dans les logs suite au boot ? Je n'ai rien dans syslog à partir du dernier reboot parce que rsyslog n'a pas été démarré par systemd C'est donc pire que

Re: [HS] Variables serveur Web php.ini

2012-09-10 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 10 September 2012 08:58:27 Gabriel Euzet wrote: Le 7 septembre 2012 19:50, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : C'est un défaut bien ennuyeux de FireFox, qui n'existe pas avec les autres navigateurs. C'est une problématique purement fonctionnel dont seul l'auteur de

Re: systemd : problème démarrage services au boot

2012-09-10 Thread maderios
On 09/10/2012 06:24 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: Le 10/09/2012 16:09, maderios a écrit : On 09/10/2012 02:41 PM, Frédéric Massot wrote: [...] Quels sont les premiers messages d'erreurs dans les logs suite au boot ? Je n'ai rien dans syslog à partir du dernier reboot parce que rsyslog n'a pas

Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-10 Thread Ernest Sales
On ds, 2012-09-08 at 16:40 +, Camaleón wrote: El Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:21:12 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió: [...] Claro, hemos evolucionado y ahora usamos herramientas como less [0] y bootstrap [1]. A eso me refiero. Ese tipo de frameworks facilitan mucho la creación de páginas y su

Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-10 Thread Jose Damian Garrido Muñoz
Hola, en lo personal lo veo así. si no sabes nada de nada, lo mejor es ponerse a estudiar. esperar que un software te haga la mágia no te da el título de desarrollador web. si ya estás más avanzado, puedes usar Gimp + un IDE que te acomode (Geany, editor de texto, etc) en lo personal uso

Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:29:48 +0200, Ernest Sales escribió: On ds, 2012-09-08 at 16:40 +, Camaleón wrote: El Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:21:12 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió: [...] Claro, hemos evolucionado y ahora usamos herramientas como less [0] y bootstrap [1]. A eso me refiero. Ese

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Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-10 Thread Fernando A. Rodriguez
El día 10 de septiembre de 2012 10:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:29:48 +0200, Ernest Sales escribió: On ds, 2012-09-08 at 16:40 +, Camaleón wrote: El Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:21:12 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió: [...] Claro, hemos evolucionado y ahora

Re: Νέα θέση εργασίας στο Εθνικό Δίκτυο Έρευνας και Τεχνολογίας

2012-09-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
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Re: Rede não acessa pelo hostname

2012-09-10 Thread John Martius
Olá pessoal, Desculpem-me pela demora. Só consegui ver meus emails hoje. Estou seguindo um tutorial que o Higor passou e parece estar dando certo ;) Edson Amaral: Eu já tinha feito essa configuração no /etc/hosts e mesmo assim não sei porque não funcionou. Higor Gutherman: Era bem isso mesmo o

Re: Rede não acessa pelo hostname

2012-09-10 Thread Bruno Fernando de Oliveira
qual foi o tutorial que o Higor passou? Em 10 de setembro de 2012 08:22, John Martius hax0...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá pessoal, Desculpem-me pela demora. Só consegui ver meus emails hoje. Estou seguindo um tutorial que o Higor passou e parece estar dando certo ;) Edson Amaral: Eu já tinha

Re: Rede não acessa pelo hostname

2012-09-10 Thread John Martius
acho que ele não enviou com cópia pro grupo. o link é esse: http://www.liria.com.br/wiki/doku.php?id=wiki:linux:config:bind:bind Em 10 de setembro de 2012 08:28, Bruno Fernando de Oliveira bruno...@gmail.com escreveu: qual foi o tutorial que o Higor passou? Em 10 de setembro de 2012 08:22,

Re: Rede não acessa pelo hostname

2012-09-10 Thread Higor Gutherman
Esse link mesmo. Me esqueci de enviar com cópia para todos.. Att, Higor Gutherman Cisco Network Academy Student Tecnólogo em Redes de Computadores Email: higorgn at gmail.com - (62) 99882626 Em 10 de setembro de 2012 08:50, John Martius hax0...@gmail.com escreveu: acho que ele não enviou com

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Re: iptables versus amule

2012-09-10 Thread Mauricio Neto
Leandro obrigado por participar da minha luta com o emule, vou descrever com mais detalhes o cenário: # regras forward iptables -A FORWARD -m state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT varias outras regras forward # Libera emule iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 4662 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD

Re: iptables versus amule

2012-09-10 Thread Adiel de Lima Ribeiro
A regra Postrouting tem que ser Prerouting no seu cenário. Faz o teste !! On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 19:23 -0300, Mauricio Neto wrote: Leandro obrigado por participar da minha luta com o emule, vou descrever com mais detalhes o cenário: # regras forward iptables -A FORWARD -m state

Re: iptables versus amule

2012-09-10 Thread Mauricio Neto
Adiel, Desculpe o erro mas no firewall esta PREROUTING, ate porque POSTROUTING -i da erro de sintax. Eu errei na hora de transcrever o email. Ou seja as regras no firewall estão: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 4662 -j DNAT --to 192.168.10.11 iptables -t nat -A

LXC container shutdowns master host

2012-09-10 Thread Andrew Kulikov
Hi all, I am using LXC containers to run isolated Debian instances. When I enter the container (via lxc-console command) and issue shutdown command inside the container -- master host goes down. It happens if I issue shutdown -r, shutdown -h or just shutdown commands. It happens not every

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of different sort. Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 16:19 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: I will add this one: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting I can't seem to connect to the site right now. I get a 503 Service Unavailable. I'll try again later. It's up now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 17:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: So or so I do not like to use the stuff that SaX tended to put into xorg.conf even after X.org has learned to configure itself most of the times. The times of inserting mode lines, in the case of SaX usually lots of modelines

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 21:23:16 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:50:36AM +0100, Brian wrote: Maybe first read the thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/07/msg00466.html A thread in which someone says the only way to proceed is to file a bug

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 13:55 +, Camaleón wrote: [snip] Back to home, your uncle sends a beautiful PowerPoint file by e-mail to your father and despite LibreOffice can open the file with no problem your father ears no sound. And here is where the real linux hist[eo]ry starts... at this

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 19:16 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 04:24:00PM +, Camaleón wrote: I wonder why people is so reluctant about installing packages from the outside when this involves upstream projects which are well-known and trustworthy :-? It adds

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 14:43 +, Camaleón wrote: From memory, it ran itself. I really doubt it. There are cracked Windows versions that auto-install a repaired Windows, users only need knowledge about setting up the Internet connection. Weaver didn't say what version was bought. Some

Re: [OT] How to redirect input/output to another console?

2012-09-10 Thread Lars Noodén
On 9/8/12 4:58 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: [snip] She is also capable working in the shell (but still not very experienced with it), and so I am looking for a way, that - either she can see, what I am doing in my shell - I can see her shell - or best, we can both work in ONE shell [snip]

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 19:13 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 09 sep 12, 15:05:44, Martin Steigerwald wrote: From what I read you can even install Debian to a fresh box by just hitting enter all the time. I never tried this, but you have even guided partitioning in the installer. So

Re: Custom SSH Authentication

2012-09-10 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hii On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 10:04:51PM +0100, Alex Robbins wrote: I am looking to set up a custom SSH authentication system. I have a several RSA key pairs for my user, and I want to restrict ssh access based on which key pair is being used (not based on user name). On top of that, I want

Re: LXC container shutdowns master host

2012-09-10 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Andrew Kulikov wrote: Hi all, I am using LXC containers to run isolated Debian instances. When I enter the container (via lxc-console command) and issue shutdown command inside the container -- master host goes down. It happens if I issue

Re: systemd

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 09:12:35PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Lennart would not be able to easily push random crap to the kernel upstream even if he tried to. It is a very different situation from userland. How so? Do you believe Redhat, Fedora etc. ship anything

Re: boot freeze when wifi is not in the same state than before hibernation

2012-09-10 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Ven 7 septembre 2012 16:11, Camaleón a écrit : On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:38:07 +0200, berenger.morel wrote: Le 06.09.2012 16:18, Camaleón a écrit : On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:13:55 +0200, berenger.morel wrote: When I change the state of wifi between a #pm-hibernate and a power on, my

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/9/2012 3:25 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: I've been following this thread from its beginning. My initial reading of OP's post was to marvel at the thought that so many things/tasks could be done with a single box in a single geek's cubicle. One consumer quad core AMD Linux box of today can

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:59:35PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Could it be that you intend to provide hosted monitoring, backup and fileservices for an customer and while at it use the same machine for testing own stuff? If so: Don´t. Thats at least my advice. (In addition to what

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:28:09PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Consider the consequenzes: If the server fails, you possibly wouldn´t know why cause the monitoring information wouldn´t be available anymore. So at least least Nagios / Icingo send out mails, in case these are not stored

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 03:42:12AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stop here. Never use a production system as a test rig. Noted. You can build a complete brand new AMD dedicated test machine with parts from Newegg for $238 USD, sans KB/mouse/monitor, which you already have. Boot it up then

Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD

2012-09-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 21:06:02 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: [Snip] I'm wondering if pulseaudio has something to do with this. Any help would be appreciated. I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:27:00AM +0100, Brian wrote: On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 21:23:16 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:50:36AM +0100, Brian wrote: Maybe first read the thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/07/msg00466.html A

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 10:42, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 19:13 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 09 sep 12, 15:05:44, Martin Steigerwald wrote: From what I read you can even install Debian to a fresh box by just hitting enter all the time. I never tried this, but you

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/09/2012 02:37 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/7/2012 3:16 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Whjat? Are you talking crash recovery boot time fsck? With any modern journaled FS log recovery is instantaneous. If you're talking about an actual structure check, XFS is pretty quick regardless of inode

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/10/2012 5:47 AM, Veljko wrote: Not all of us have that kind of luxury to be that picky about our job, but I get your point. Small companies with really tight purse strings may seem fine this week, then suddenly fold next week, everyone loses their jobs in the process. Get yourself an

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:49:45PM +0200, Veljko wrote: a) backup (backup server for several dedicated (mainly) web servers). It will contain incremental backups, so only first running will take a lot of time, rsnapshot Best avoid rsnapshot. Use (at least) rdiff-backup instead, which is

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:51:05PM +0200, lee wrote: Some people have argued it's even better to use software raid than a hardware raid controller because software raid doesn't depend on particular controller cards that can fail and can be difficult to replace. Besides that, software raid is a

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/10/2012 09:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/10/2012 5:47 AM, Veljko wrote: There is something that is not clear to me. You recommended hardware RAID as superior solution. I already knew that it is the case, but I thought that linux software RAID is also some solution. You mean same

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:04:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Linux on desktop has gone a long way. And I think it is still on a journey. (...) This is usually a delusion: is not that windows or linux is more or less easy (now or then) but how many

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Sun, September 9, 2012 5:18 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: But we are talking about Debian. Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install. When else would you make such a decision if not before starting the

Re: defoma and its font path

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: TrueType fonts can be simply copied/pasted into one of the available font path folders and that should be all. It isn't that simple. With what you can get from dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, the fonts don't look too great and they look really awful in

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: My problem has been, for quite some number of years now, of not just considering my own requirements. I tend to think a little more (w)holistically, because if the context isn't advanced, any appearance of personal advancement is no more than illusion. So if

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:00:33 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 05:12:35PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: Some non-packaged software, e.g. the BOINC client, requires a relatively recent version of glibc. There always be some package that requires some version for some library. This

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/10/2012 8:11 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:51:05PM +0200, lee wrote: Some people have argued it's even better to use software raid than a hardware raid controller because software raid doesn't depend on particular controller cards that can fail and can be difficult to

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 10. September 2012 schrieb Veljko: On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:28:09PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Consider the consequenzes: If the server fails, you possibly wouldn´t know why cause the monitoring information wouldn´t be available anymore. So at least least Nagios /

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:57:20 -0700, Weaver wrote: On Sun, September 9, 2012 7:43 am, Camaleón wrote: You mean you got your linux preinstalled within you computer? That would be nice but I'm afraid not the norm :-) No, I mean that I have always had to install/reinstall Windows, because the

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/10/2012 8:19 AM, The Wanderer wrote: But from what I'm told, hardware RAID has the downside that it often relies on the exact model of RAID card; if the card dies, you'll need an exact duplicate in order to be able to mount the RAID. You've been misinformed. And, given your admission

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 10. September 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:51:05PM +0200, lee wrote: Some people have argued it's even better to use software raid than a hardware raid controller because software raid doesn't depend on particular controller cards that can fail and can be

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/10/2012 10:16 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/10/2012 8:19 AM, The Wanderer wrote: But from what I'm told, hardware RAID has the downside that it often relies on the exact model of RAID card; if the card dies, you'll need an exact duplicate in order to be able to mount the RAID. You've

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 16:44:35 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:27:50 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:19:17 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: I said the computer was new TO ME. I never said it was NEW. This is a server machine literally thrown away by a

Re: What Version To Install On iMac?

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 02:11:33AM -0400, Doug wrote: On 09/09/2012 01:40 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 10:56:45AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 07/09/12 08:21 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 02:04:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Interesting statement.

Re: boot freeze when wifi is not in the same state than before hibernation

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:26:13 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Ven 7 septembre 2012 16:11, Camaleón a écrit : (...) I am not sure that this will work, because if I do not enable/disable the wifi card between the start of hibernation process and the moment where everything is fully recovered,

Re: boot freeze when wifi is not in the same state than before hibernation

2012-09-10 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 16:46, Camaleón a écrit : On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:26:13 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Ven 7 septembre 2012 16:11, Camaleón a écrit : (...) I am not sure that this will work, because if I do not enable/disable the wifi card between the start of hibernation

Re: defoma and its font path

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:59:11 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: TrueType fonts can be simply copied/pasted into one of the available font path folders and that should be all. It isn't that simple. It is for the majority of applications. With what you can get from

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:20:30 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:04:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Linux on desktop has gone a long way. And I think it is still on a journey. (...) This is usually a delusion: is not that windows or linux is

Re: boot freeze when wifi is not in the same state than before hibernation

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:00:28 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 16:46, Camaleón a écrit : I do not really see how to use command-line before the moment I have wrote #pm-hibernate and the moment where my computer reboot? Except the physical switch, I have no way to control

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 02:23:10PM -0700, Weaver wrote: But this, again, is not what is being advocated. I see nothing wrong with a small educational process being incorporated into the install procedure. There is the installation-guide¹. It wouldn't be a good idea to put screes of

Re: boot freeze when wifi is not in the same state than before hibernation

2012-09-10 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 17:28, Camaleón a écrit : On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:00:28 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 16:46, Camaleón a écrit : I do not really see how to use command-line before the moment I have wrote #pm-hibernate and the moment where my computer

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:53:33PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: For rsnapshot in my experience you need monitoring cause if it fails it just complains to its log file and even just puts the rsync error code without the actual error message there last I checked. Let monitoring check

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:07:47PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:49:45PM +0200, Veljko wrote: a) backup (backup server for several dedicated (mainly) web servers). It will contain incremental backups, so only first running will take a lot of time, rsnapshot

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:02:54PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Like I said, it's several dedicated, mostly web servers with users uploaded content on one of them (that part is expected to grow). None of them is in the same data center. Okay, so thats fine. I would still not be

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Veljko
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I'm not able to find that card here (and I haven't so far), can I have another one? That's hard to believe given the worldwide penetration Adaptec has, and the fact UPS/FedEx ship worldwide. What country are you in? I'm in

Re: udev rules for wheezy

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:26:48 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: i'm trying to get udev rules for my usb phone, and they are ... SUBSYSTEM==usb, ACTION==add, SYSFS{idVendor}==0fce:2138, SYSFS{idProduct}==*, MODE=0777 AND SUBSYSTEM==usb, ACTION==add, SYSFS{idVendor}==0fce, SYSFS{idProduct}==*,

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread David Cho-Lerat
For more than a decade now you need a working computer to install an operating system on another one so that you can acquire information and additional software as needed. Why isn't that included in the installer? Just boot from the installation media and be presented with a working system and

Re: boot freeze when wifi is not in the same state than before hibernation

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:32:50 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Lun 10 septembre 2012 17:28, Camaleón a écrit : (...) I do not think it is possible to access a computer which is in hibernation state? I use pm-hibernate, not pm-suspend, so the computer is really shutdown. But you already

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-10 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Carl Fink c...@finknetwork.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:50:36AM +0100, Brian wrote: On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 19:00:33 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: Never mind, I just checked and Sid is also running 2.13. Apparently I'd have to use ANOTHER DISTRO to get a

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes: Linux RAID is great in the right hands when used for appropriate workloads. Too many people are using it who should not be, and giving it a bad rap due to no fault of the software. Hm, interesting, so what would you say we should use it for and

Compiling libtiff support in Kakadu - not finding header file?

2012-09-10 Thread francis picabia
Strangely, we're not getting many answers on this from the support (creator) of Kakadu, but maybe anyone with some code porting savvy can help. This is Linux x86_64, building in the Kakadu apps part of the build tree. It builds fine with default Makefile. When libtiff4-dev is installed and we

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 14:10 +0200, lee wrote: For those who don't want to or are unable to learn, have a button they can press to perform the installation, no matter what and no questions asked. However, those are the kind of people who better stay away from computers, which makes it doubtful

Re: LXC container shutdowns master host

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:38:03 +0400, Andrew Kulikov wrote: I am using LXC containers to run isolated Debian instances. When I enter the container (via lxc-console command) and issue shutdown command inside the container -- master host goes down. It happens if I issue shutdown -r, shutdown -h

Re: Compiling libtiff support in Kakadu - not finding header file?

2012-09-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-09-10 18:26 +0200, francis picabia wrote: Strangely, we're not getting many answers on this from the support (creator) of Kakadu, but maybe anyone with some code porting savvy can help. This is Linux x86_64, building in the Kakadu apps part of the build tree. It builds fine with

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 17:38:39, Veljko wrote: I've never thought that RAID is backup. It's not. Server I'm trying to set up is backup. It's not perfect solution, but is better then nothing. Yes, in a perfect world I would set another one in case something happened to this one, but that's the

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 14:05:05, Morel Bérenger wrote: About language, I wonder if it would be possible to auto-detect from the the Internet: many websites are able to guess more or less precisely. I do not know how they do that (maybe by knowing on which proxy the connection go?), but maybe it

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 14:06:07, Camaleón wrote: disk (well, buy enclosed in quotes because a high percent of Windows users do not pay a cent for their OS, you know...). An Microsoft has no real incentive to force them to, because people would just look for alternatives. Kind regards, Andrei --

I'd rather stay private

2012-09-10 Thread zurfer
Hello! Only know I found a probable bug in iceweasel. I visited my google mail account before. Now, to send a mail I wanted to revisit the site. Typing the address in, the automatic function or history showed the adress with the number of mails in the inbox. I guess this shouldn't be. Kind

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-09-09 a las 22:20 +0200, Mauro escribió: (resending to the list) On 9 September 2012 19:52, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:31:16 +0200, Mauro wrote: Hello I've two server with debian squeeze and in cluster with heartbeat+pacemaker. They run ntpd for

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 sep 12, 09:06:56, Kelly Clowers wrote: I can't speak for others, but if I really needed a newer glibc that bad, I wold probably add Ubuntu to my sources.list, and make a hybrid. For glibc, you might end up pulling in a lot of packages... Later, when Debian gets it you can roll

Re: I'd rather stay private

2012-09-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:10:17 +, zurfer wrote: Only know I found a probable bug in iceweasel. I visited my google mail account before. Now, to send a mail I wanted to revisit the site. Typing the address in, the automatic function or history showed the adress with the number of mails in

Re: I'd rather stay private

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 17:10 +, zurfer wrote: Hello! Only know I found a probable bug in iceweasel. I visited my google mail account before. Now, to send a mail I wanted to revisit the site. Typing the address in, the automatic function or history showed the adress with the number of

Re: I'd rather stay private

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 19:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 17:10 +, zurfer wrote: Hello! Only know I found a probable bug in iceweasel. I visited my google mail account before. Now, to send a mail I wanted to revisit the site. Typing the address in, the

Re: Compiling libtiff support in Kakadu - not finding header file?

2012-09-10 Thread francis picabia
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2012-09-10 18:26 +0200, francis picabia wrote: Strangely, we're not getting many answers on this from the support (creator) of Kakadu, but maybe anyone with some code porting savvy can help. This is Linux x86_64,

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