Re: problem mouse copy/past from PDF

[David Wright]

On Thu 22 Sep 2016 at 00:04:07 (-0500), David Wright wrote:
> I'm always on the lookout for a "pa→pdf" successor to pa→ps, but
> see no sign of it on the horizon.

Or perhaps I do. I need to check out
https://github.com/dov/paps
but the night has drawn in...

Cheers,
David.

Re: problem mouse copy/past from PDF

[David Wright]

On Wed 21 Sep 2016 at 20:37:28 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Tue 20 Sep 2016 at 15:08:58 +0100, Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 19 Sep 2016 at 22:41:23 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun 18 Sep 2016 at 16:14:37 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote:
> > > > I've begun to experience problems using the mouse to select a passage in
> > > > a PDF displayed with xpdf 3.03-10 in order to paste it elsewhere.
> > > > 
> > > > The ends of lines are truncated to varying degrees. For example in a
> > > > PDF with this:
> > > > 
> > > >   123456789
> > > >   123456789
> > > >   1234567
> > > > 
> > > > The past might look like
> > > > 
> > > >   12345678
> > > >   1234567
> > > >   123456
> > > 
> > > Can you confirm that dragging your mouse produces a black rectangle,
> > > and that the rectangle has the last digits (the ones that get lost)
> > > highlighted thus.
> > 
> > Could be a possible cause. My mouse skills aren't brilliant and not
> > precisely positioning the rectangle has often lead to my having to redo
> > the copying.
> 
> The OP appears to have totally lost interest in his own question and the
> reponses to it but the ins and outs of copying from a PDF get more
> intriguing.
> 
> I own up to being quite cavalier in dragging the mouse to produce a
> black rectangle to be copied. The positioning of *all* sides of the
> rectangle in mupdf seems somewhat critical, however.

Ditto, but I don't attempt any precision with the mouse (unlike using
scrot, for example); I just grab a large chuck and then sort it all
out in an emacs buffer.

> I have a PDF which on the screen displays
> 
>   If You Hear 
> means that the command you have entered 
> has been recognised as being valid (correct), 
>   i.e. you entered # 0 *
> 
> If I postition the black rectangle to just about cover what is on the
> screen (or a little bit less at top and bottom) the text copies as
> 
>   If You Hear e
>   e means that the command you have entered has been recognised as being 
> valid (correct), 
>   i.e. you entered # 0 ..
> 
> (The font for the musical note is embedded in the PDF but has no
> ToUnicode map. It comes up as "e").
> 
> If the lower boundary is a smidgeon (5 or so pixels) down it picks up
> the following line too. That, of course, doesn't explain the OP's
> observation but it does not appear we are going to progress beyond that
> initial post.
> 
>   If You Hear e
>   e means that the command you have entered has been recognised as being 
> valid (correct), 
>   i.e. you entered # 0 ..
>   If You Hear ee
> 
> ("ee" is two quavers).

For xpdf, my experience is similar. I assume you're lifting text that
happens to have musical glyphs in it. I lift text from actual music,
and the text is usable. However, any Unicode characters are displayed
as the individual bytes making them up. The music produces mainly
blanks with odd characters in it, usually Unicode bytes or control
characters.

> The line by line selection by evince appears to be less error-prone in
> terms of text copying.

Lifting the text from the same music in evince, it's almost impossible
to select more than one line without the selection expanding uncontrollably.
The result, when pasted, is short lines of fragments of text in
random order: completely unusable. In Unicode, however.

Mupdf is no better: usually a single syllable to each line, with lots
of ? lines respresenting the music. Unicode again. I haven't tried
being selective with the rectangle, just taking the lot.

(The music in question is LilyPond output.)

Cheers,
David.

Re: problem mouse copy/past from PDF

[David Wright]

On Wed 21 Sep 2016 at 18:13:18 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:38:41AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Although it is a different topic
> > 
> >  
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26066535/ps2pdf-creates-a-very-big-pdf-file-from-paps-created-ps-file
> > 
> > backs up your "pretty funny" feeling. KenS is a Ghostscript developer.
> 
> Thanks for the link.
> 
> From a cursory look at the .ps I had that impression:
> 
>   "The problem is the paps file, it doesn't actually contain any text
>at all, in a PostScript sense.
> 
>Each character is stored as a procedure, where a path is drawn and
>then filled. This is NOT stored in a font, just in a dictionary."
> 
> so paps basically "paints" the text. 
> 
> Yikes. I still hoped to be wrong :-(
> 
> > Maybe this new version does not fix mouse copying from a PDF generated
> > from paps' PS but it isn't in unstable anyway. (Furthermore, paps isn't
> > in testing due to a FTBFS).
> 
> Let's hope. In the meantime use a2ps (but I don't know how well that
> handles Unicode/UTF-8). Perhaps paps's author had a strong reason to
> do it that way.

Yes, Brian, thanks for the link. One reading of
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Unicode-HOWTO-5.html
suggests that paps may be doing it the only way possible,
apart from the duplication of each occurrence of a glyph.
I've just installed uniprint and I can't see that it does
anything different, except produce a much larger file.

$ paps --font="Freemono 10" --left-margin=54 --top-margin=54 --paper letter \
 UNICODE-chars.txt > unicode-chars.ps
$ uniprint -out unicode-chars-uniprint.ps -in UNICODE-chars.txt \
 -font /usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
uniprint: printed 17 pages.

$ ps2pdf unicode-chars.ps unicode-chars.pdf
$ ps2pdf unicode-chars-uniprint.ps unicode-chars-uniprint.pdf

45395 UNICODE-chars.txt
  7344022 unicode-chars.ps
  3457331 unicode-chars.pdf
 27775050 unicode-chars-uniprint.ps
  7993797 unicode-chars-uniprint.pdf

The comparison is as fair as I can make it: paps opens three
font files AFAICT: FreeMono.otf, DejaVuSansMono.ttf and
DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf, so I gave uniprint the second one.

I gave up using a2ps at least a decade ago because it can't handle
Unicode; AFAIK there's no sign of its adopting it at all.
I'm always on the lookout for a "pa→pdf" successor to pa→ps, but
see no sign of it on the horizon.

Cheers,
David.

Re: cant get to desktop anymore

[Zoltán Hermann]

Or it may be that no
permission, for example, is not his .Xauthority, .xsession file

wrong file ownership, which can be fixed by
sudo chown username.usergroup /home/username/.Xauthority

wrong file permissions, which can be fixed by
sudo chmod u=rw go= /home/username/.Xauthority
//or chmod +755 ...

But it can be like a part of the epiphany-browser...


2016-09-21 22:52 GMT+02:00 Stephen Powell :

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016, at 16:32, Stephen Powell wrote:
> >
> > I did notice one thing peculiar.  startx output is written to the
> terminal
> > of vt1, of course, even though it's running as a background task.  And I
> got
> > the error message
> >
> > modprobe: FATAL: Module mach64 not found in directory /lib/modules/xxx
> >
> > where xxx is the identity of the running kernel.  Strange.  The kernel
> has
> > never had a mach64 module in it, as far as I know.  mach64 is the name
> > of the X driver, but there is no kernel module by that name.
>
> One other thing I noticed.  It may or may not be related.  "web" (i.e.
> epiphany-browser) is broken.  When I click on the icon for changing
> settings
> (including listing bookmarks), nothing happens.  I switched back to
> chromium,
> which seems to be working fine.
>
> Lovely "upgrade", Debian!
>
> --
>   .''`. Stephen Powell
>  : :'  :
>  `. `'`
>`-
>
>

Re: Remove Account

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 9/20/16, Thomas Schmitt  wrote:
>
> Benjamin R. Zakarin wrote:
>> Therefore I implore of you to entirely scrub bzaka...@umich.edu from ALL
>> MAILING LISTS AND ANY REGISTRY.
>
> I don't know whether anybody listens here who has the power to do so.
>
> Did you already try the "Unsubscribe" button on
>
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
>
> with the bzaka...@umich.edu address in the "Your email address:" field ?
>
> I assume you will get a mail (forwarded to benjamin.zaka...@gmail.com)
> with hopefully a HTTP link for confirmation.
>
> If it works, then go to the mass unsubscription site
>   https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe
> and check all affected lists. The button is at the bottom.
>
>
> Brian wrote:
>> How are you reading these replies?
>
> By mails forwarded from the subscribed address to the unsubscribed one.
> I understand he cannot send mail from the subscribed address.


What you said above is somewhere in line with what hit my brain first.
Next thought I had was that some [listserv email programs] (sorry,
that's for lack of better terminology right now) some [listserv
email programs] are set up where you can do something like type "help"
as an email's body content addressed to a list's overlord admin email
address.

In computerized response, you receive back a sometimes phenomenally
sized email containing things like what you're signed up for and how
you can take certain actions regarding your participation in each
list.

Actions you might take would be things like come and go from digest
format... subscribe and unsubscribe.. take a vacation break from
receiving emails... those kinds of things.

SOME programs even let you subscribe and unsubscribe a secondary email
address that's different from the email you're using. The format would
be that email addy "x...@example.com" would send an email with the body
text reading "unsubscribe a...@example.com".

THEN... in a case like this thread is seeming to say, the user would
receive the then generated volatile security conscious unsubscribe
link/URL because it was *forwarded* from "abc" to "xyz". One quick
click moments later, and the unsubscribe action is completed...

IF... the user does have control over the "xyz" email account AND
IF the now mostly defunct "abc" account is really forwarding all
incoming emails to "xyz".

This feature really does exist somewhere out there, but I can't
remember which block of lists I was following that used it. Might have
even been something dotGov health oriented ten years ago. If something
like that doesn't exist here, it's a nice user friendly feature for
those moments like this thread. There were also a couple other neat
things about it that escape my brain this moment unfortunately but
that always intrigued when I remembered to play around with it.

Just thinking out loud.. :)

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[David Wright]

On Wed 21 Sep 2016 at 15:07:09 (-0400), Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/21/2016 11:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >>it seems that I am using lightdm.
> >
> >I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
> >user.  I suspect that the software *has* no user configuration at all,
> >because every search I've ever done has come up with nothing.
> >
> >(For example, https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM has zero instances of
> >"home" or "~" or "dot".)

I'm not a DE or DM user, so I'm know very little about them. But I
don't understand the concept of "user configuration" for a DM.
Wouldn't that be like a user configuring /etc/issue, the login prompt
or /etc/motd ?

> Oddly this page states, with it's bare face hanging out:
> [lightdm] was built as a relatively light-weight and *highly
> customizable* alternative to GDM.

Is this what is being described at
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM/CommonConfiguration/
?
Is that the sort of configuration you would expect, or would you
want something different? Are you perhaps talking about which file,
like .xsession, .xsessionrc, .Xsession, .xinitrc, etc gets executed
when you login through the DM?

Cheers,
David.

Re: Laserjet p1109w - FIXED

[Ralph Katz]

On 09/19/2016 09:43 AM, Brian wrote:
[snip]
> hp-plugin is setup to go to the openprinting site for the plugin.
> :)
> 
> It has been some time since I used this technique so I was working 
> partly from memory. Step 5 was poor advice because that script
> would expect a GUI with QT to be available. The situation I devised
> the method for was one in which there was no X; step 5 should read
> 
> 5. Make installPlugin.py executable and do './installPlugin.py'.
> 
> Another mistake is in step 1. The advice should be to download the 
> version of *.run corresponding with the hplip version you have.
> 
> But it is good it all worked out. You could purge the version of
> hplip you now have, install from the Debian repros and install the
> plugin again if you wanted.
> 

Some searching would have saved time as we discussed this printer back
in June without needing any plug-ins or non-debian software to get it
working.  I posted:

> I use the standard cups foomatic driver for your P1102w printer on
> my very similar (or identical)  HP LaserJet Professional P1109w on
> my stable/Jessie system.
> 
> Browsing to localhost:631/printers shows:
>> Description: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet Professional P1109w 
>> Driver:  HP LaserJet Pro P1102w Foomatic/foo2zjs-z2 (recommended)
>> (grayscale, 2-sided printing) Connection:
>> dnssd://HP%20LaserJet%20Professional%20P1109w._pdl-datastream._tcp.local/
>
>> 
> [There is no 2-sided printing.]

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/06/msg00953.html

Regards,
Ralph




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Apt Error at Update

[Stephen Allen]

Hi Folks:

It's intermittent, after running apt (SID updated daily, for the past
several days). Anybody else?

Error:
Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if
/usr/bin/test -w /var/cache/app-info -a -e /usr/bin/appstreamcli; then
appstreamcli refresh-cache > /dev/null; fi'

Re: My XFCE4 Desktop

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/20/2016 11:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Monday 19 September 2016 21:28:55 Jimmy Johnson wrote:

May I share my Debian Sid/testing XFCE4 desktop with you, someplace I
found this nice Fantasy Nature picture to put on my desktop and I like
it. :)
https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14409518_993783114063978_43410
3725657510507_o.jpg I know I sometimes I behave like a child. :P


Thank you!  I like it too!

Lisi



Thank you Lisi!
--
Kali GNU/Linux Rolling - KDE Plasma 5.7.4  - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda17
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: pétition de l'april

[Fabrice Regnier]

'lut,


perd le logiciel libre et donc debian en étant de fait  exclu des
établissements scolaires.
...pas de tous les établissements scolaires. Je viens de remplacer une 
vingtaine de postes M$ par des postes debian dans une école primaire.


a+

f.

ps: en réalité, ce sont des Linux Mint.

Re: Recent linux-image update broke CPU fan

[Neal P. Murphy]

On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:12:29 -0500
"Neal P. Murphy"  wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:18:51 -0500
> "Neal P. Murphy"  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:35:15 +0100
> > Sven Arvidsson  wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 2015-11-29 at 02:16 -0500, Neal P. Murphy wrote:
> > > > I think the last linux-image update broke my CPU fan. OK, it didn't
> > > > actually break it. But since the last update, my CPU fan (stock with
> > > > vishera 8350 black) will NOT turn faster than about 3500 RPM.
> > > > 
> > > > I have been using fancontrol for months. It took weeks to get it set
> > > > correctly. At maximum speed, I've seen (and heard) the fan turn in
> > > > excess of 6500 RPM.
> > > > 
> > > > Until the recent kernel update, the CPU and case fans have ramped up
> > > > with increasing temp and ramped down with decreasing temp. The CPU
> > > > never exceeded about 60C when compiling linux using all 8 CPUs for 5
> > > > minutes. And that was with a mild overclock (4.4GHz, 1866 RAM at
> > > > 2133).
> > > > 
> > > > Now, the CPU fan will not exceed about 3700 RPM. That's barely fast
> > > > enough to keep 4 non-overclocked CPUs cool.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone else experienced this? Is it related to the kernel update?
> > > > Or do I have a power supply or motherboard failing (again)?
> > > 
> > > If this was on a stable system it seems odd, if it was unstable or
> > > testing it might just be one of the "charms" of running something that
> > > is in development.
> 
> It's still odd. But with no change to the OS, the fan speed has returned. So 
> I'm going to conclude that it is related to hardware and/or firmware (flaky 
> NVRAM, flaky power supply, flaky mainboard, ), that the kernel update was 
> not the cause.

Following up on this, it was almost certainly the power supply. Turns out the 
supplies I had on hand each had two 20A (or 22A) 12VDC rails. The 12VDC was 
dipping during periods of 'high load' (meaning the current draw exceeded the 
rail's ability to supply it). Modern 'high power' CPUs often need a lot more 
than that. I bought a Corsair RM750X supply with a single 625A 12VDC rail. 
Overkill, but it was only $60 after rebates. The Smoothwall Express build time 
remained at around 90 minutes (a little less for 32-bit, a little more for 
64-bit); Linux takes less than 8 minutes to build. The fans work correctly 
again.

All is well now. The CPU fan sometimes gets up to about 7000 RPM (when the room 
temp is high). The CPU stays under 60C (but will rise slightly higher than that 
if the room is over 80-85°F. The 12VDC is rock steady. It took me a while to 
retune /etc/fancontrol to keep the fans silent when the system is mostly 
quiescent.

Debian was not at fault.

N

Re: cant get to desktop anymore

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016, at 16:32, Stephen Powell wrote:
> 
> I did notice one thing peculiar.  startx output is written to the terminal
> of vt1, of course, even though it's running as a background task.  And I got
> the error message
> 
> modprobe: FATAL: Module mach64 not found in directory /lib/modules/xxx
> 
> where xxx is the identity of the running kernel.  Strange.  The kernel has
> never had a mach64 module in it, as far as I know.  mach64 is the name
> of the X driver, but there is no kernel module by that name.

One other thing I noticed.  It may or may not be related.  "web" (i.e.
epiphany-browser) is broken.  When I click on the icon for changing settings
(including listing bookmarks), nothing happens.  I switched back to chromium,
which seems to be working fine.

Lovely "upgrade", Debian! 

-- 
  .''`. Stephen Powell
 : :'  :
 `. `'`
   `-

Re: [testing] problème de pinning

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:22:38 +0200
Daniel Caillibaud  a écrit:

> Le 21/09/16 à 00:52, Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :
> GP> Mon problème c'est que chez moi avec ces préférences un apt upgrade ou un
> GP> apt-get upgrade veut mettre à jour par rapport à unstable et non
> GP> testing !
> GP> 
> GP> J'en perds mon latin (bon certes il n'y a pas grand à perdre ... ;) )
> 
> apt-cache policy
> 
> devrait te mettre sur la piste (en tout cas te dire la priorité qu'il donne
> à chacun)
> 

Effectivement piste intéressante car apt-cache policy m'indique que tout est à
500 alors que dans /etc/apt/preferences j'ai 900 et 800 ...

Gaëtan

Re: [testing] problème de pinning

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 21 Sep 2016 12:21:18 +0200
Daniel Caillibaud  a écrit:

> Le 21/09/16 à 00:52, Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :
> GP>Package: *
> GP>Pin: release a=testing
> GP>Pin-Priority: 900
> GP> 
> GP>Package: *
> GP>Pin: release a=unstable
> GP>Pin-Priority: 800
> GP> 
> GP>Package: *
> GP>Pin: release o=Debian
> GP>Pin-Priority: -10
> 
> GP> Mon problème c'est que chez moi avec ces préférences un apt upgrade ou un
> GP> apt-get upgrade veut mettre à jour par rapport à unstable et non
> GP> testing !
> 
> Tu n'as rien d'autre dans tes prefs apt ?

non rien d'autre.

> 
> cat /etc/apt/preferences /etc/apt/preferences.d/*

rien dans /etc/apt/preferences.d/

Gaëtan

Re: Need a tutorial

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 21 September 2016 12:24:39 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all, Dr Klepp in particular;
> >
> > Where can I get a tut on doing the ssh keyfile login, and where can
> > I find a tutorial that is essentialy what Dr. Klepp had me do about
> > a year back that made these 3 commands in my rc.local file Just
> > Work:
>
> Basically:
>
>  1. you need a keypair. Unless you have it already, you generate one
> with ssh-keygen. There, you have the choice to let it use the
> default file name (typically, ~/.ssh/id_rsa and ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub or
> similar, depending on the key type) and whether you want the private
> key protected by a passphrase (recommended, but you have to unlock it
> either with ssh-add or whatever mechanism your desktop environment has
> for you).
>
>  2. you copy the public part to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the
> server's user you want to log into -- there's the handy "ssh-copy-id"
> for that. From the client
>
> ssh-add # if not done already
> ssh-copy-id user@server # enter for one last time user's password
> there
>
> This is the bird's view. Ask if you get stuck.
>
> regards
> -- t

Thanks Tomas, I'll see what I've missed.  Right now its working but its 
all passwd protected. Well enough I think I can get the public key 
moved.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Need a tutorial

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 21 September 2016 10:23:09 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Where can I get a tut on doing the ssh keyfile login, and where can
> > I find a tutorial that is essentialy what Dr. Klepp had me do about
> > a year back that made these 3 commands in my rc.local file Just
> > Work:
> >
> > su gene -c "sshfs gene@shop:/ /sshnet/shop"
> > su gene -c "sshfs gene@lathe:/ /sshnet/lathe"
> > su gene -c "sshfs gene@GO704:/ /sshnet/GO704"
>
> You need to set up key authentication between your local account (as
> client) and the remote server.  Usually this is done by having an ssh
> keypair (generating one if you don't already have one), then sending
> the public key (NOT the private key) to the remote machine, and
> appending it to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file of the target account.
>
> man ssh-keygen
> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/SshKeys

I knew there was something about generating keys, but not the sticky 
details.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: cant get to desktop anymore

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016, at 19:57, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/18/2016 06:00 PM, Kent West wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 3:28 PM, bell canada  > > wrote:
> >
> > hello i installed debian 8 and i cant get into my desktop..why plz help
> >
> > roberto
> > 438 881 9269 
> > all i get is ablack scren
> > even recory mode doesnt help
> >
> >
> > Do you get to a login prompt at all (graphical or text-based)?
> >
> > What happens if you press Ctrl-Alt-F2?
> If the OP would do that, login as his user and enter "startx", I bet a 
> donut that he gets to his desktop. Mine is STILL boroken that way 
> ...POS. synaptic isn't fixed yet.  Someone just shoot me. Ric
> 

After a recent stretch upgrade, I experienced a similar problem.
I use the XFCE4 desktop environment, the lightdm login daemon, and
systemd as my init system.

After "upgrading" and rebooting, I got a black screen with a mouse pointer.
And that was it.  I used the following procedure as a work-around:

I used Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a text console.  I logged in as root.
I issued

systemctl stop lightdm.service
systemctl disable lightdm.service

then I exited the root login session, logged in on the text console
as my normal non-superuser self, and issued

startx -- vt7 &

This brought up my normal XFCE4 desktop on vt7, bypassing the lightdm login
daemon.  Of course after a reboot, the two systemctl commands won't be
needed.  The lightdm service will no longer start.

I did notice one thing peculiar.  startx output is written to the terminal
of vt1, of course, even though it's running as a background task.  And I got
the error message

modprobe: FATAL: Module mach64 not found in directory /lib/modules/xxx

where xxx is the identity of the running kernel.  Strange.  The kernel has
never had a mach64 module in it, as far as I know.  mach64 is the name
of the X driver, but there is no kernel module by that name.

I obviously don't like using this work-around, but I can at least limp
along until somebody somewhere fixes this problem.

-- 
  .''`. Stephen Powell
 : :'  :
 `. `'`
   `-

Re: problem mouse copy/past from PDF

[Brian]

On Tue 20 Sep 2016 at 15:08:58 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Mon 19 Sep 2016 at 22:41:23 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Sun 18 Sep 2016 at 16:14:37 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote:
> > > I've begun to experience problems using the mouse to select a passage in
> > > a PDF displayed with xpdf 3.03-10 in order to paste it elsewhere.
> > > 
> > > The ends of lines are truncated to varying degrees. For example in a
> > > PDF with this:
> > > 
> > >   123456789
> > >   123456789
> > >   1234567
> > > 
> > > The past might look like
> > > 
> > >   12345678
> > >   1234567
> > >   123456
> > 
> > Can you confirm that dragging your mouse produces a black rectangle,
> > and that the rectangle has the last digits (the ones that get lost)
> > highlighted thus.
> 
> Could be a possible cause. My mouse skills aren't brilliant and not
> precisely positioning the rectangle has often lead to my having to redo
> the copying.

The OP appears to have totally lost interest in his own question and the
reponses to it but the ins and outs of copying from a PDF get more
intriguing.

I own up to being quite cavalier in dragging the mouse to produce a
black rectangle to be copied. The positioning of *all* sides of the
rectangle in mupdf seems somewhat critical, however.

I have a PDF which on the screen displays

  If You Hear 
means that the command you have entered 
has been recognised as being valid (correct), 
  i.e. you entered # 0 *

If I postition the black rectangle to just about cover what is on the
screen (or a little bit less at top and bottom) the text copies as

  If You Hear e
  e means that the command you have entered has been recognised as being valid 
(correct), 
  i.e. you entered # 0 ..

(The font for the musical note is embedded in the PDF but has no
ToUnicode map. It comes up as "e").

If the lower boundary is a smidgeon (5 or so pixels) down it picks up
the following line too. That, of course, doesn't explain the OP's
observation but it does not appear we are going to progress beyond that
initial post.

  If You Hear e
  e means that the command you have entered has been recognised as being valid 
(correct), 
  i.e. you entered # 0 ..
  If You Hear ee

("ee" is two quavers).

The line by line selection by evince appears to be less error-prone in
terms of text copying.

Probably nothing to do with the OP's issue but merely an indication of
another user's experience. All very inconsequential and probably of no
importance but it passes the time as the nights draw in.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Problème d'écran sintillant avec Gnome 3.22

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:35:14 +0200
Olivier Bitsch  a écrit:

> Hello,
> 
> Depuis la version 3.21 puis 3.22 de Gnome (testing/sid), j'ai des problèmes
> d'écran sintillant et trainée de fenêtres.
> 
> Je sais qu'il existe un rapport de bug ici:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837786
> 
> Mais je voulais savoir si certains d'entre vous avais réussi a régler le
> problème avec un petit tweak ?
> 
> Olivier

Salut,

Je ne suis pas confronté à ce problème bien qu'étant en testing avec gnome
3.21/3.22.
Tu as quoi comme carte graphique et comme pilote ?

Gaëtan

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 09/21/2016 11:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:

it seems that I am using lightdm.


I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
user.  I suspect that the software *has* no user configuration at all,
because every search I've ever done has come up with nothing.

(For example, https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM has zero instances of
"home" or "~" or "dot".)


Oddly this page states, with it's bare face hanging out:
[lightdm] was built as a relatively light-weight and *highly 
customizable* alternative to GDM.


./tony


So then we enter the murky waters of "what happens after lightdm".
Here I can only find hints and conjectures and anecdotes.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg02242.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/12/msg00775.html
https://faq.i3wm.org/question/2483/howto-debian-wheezy-lightdm-i3.1.html
...




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Re: change password prompt

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 9/19/16, Reco  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 11:01:33AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 09/19/2016 10:25 AM, Reco wrote:
>> >
>> >On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 09:59:03AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> >>I had, on a prior machine, changed the password prompt for sudo by
>> >> adding
>> >>something (it was "ENTER NUCLEAR LAUNCH CODE:" in fact) to the sudoers
>> >> file,
>> >>but at the moment I can not recall what/how I did it, but I'd like to do
>> >> it
>> >>again.
>> >>Anyone?
>> >
>> >sudoers(5) says that you should change 'passprompt_override' setting.
>> >
>> >Reco
>> >
>> I'm trying, but failing to find an example of how to use that, like the
>> precise syntax to use.
>> The man page doesn't give any example, so it's not clear how to use it.
>
> This line in /etc/sudoers works for me:
>
> Defaults passprompt_override,passprompt="ENTER NUCLEAR LAUNCH CODE:"
>
> Of course you should use visudo, not edit /etc/sudoers directly.


Having played along while lurking, I am so leaving that in there for
right now. The "for right now" disclaimer is that I'll likely forget
it's there when I overhaul things soon. That whole thing about our
/etc tweaks becoming a little more set off to the side during upgrades
(e.g. finding a more static permanent home), this is a silly example,
but it reminds me of being a part of chatting that topic up quite a
while back now.

There is so much out there that can be personalized in this way. Doing
so often inspires learning more about the internal developer side of
things, too, once one silly little tweak like this works.

Life Lesson Learned the Very Hard Way: My experience has been that
playing along with these things also easily leads to breaking things
beyond repair. If anyone else is thinking of quietly playing along
while lurking, make sure you back things up first.

May this thread trigger many more minds to dig deep, deep, deeper into
their Debian.

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Problème d'écran sintillant avec Gnome 3.22

[Olivier Bitsch]

Hello,

Depuis la version 3.21 puis 3.22 de Gnome (testing/sid), j'ai des problèmes
d'écran sintillant et trainée de fenêtres.

Je sais qu'il existe un rapport de bug ici:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837786

Mais je voulais savoir si certains d'entre vous avais réussi a régler le
problème avec un petit tweak ?

Olivier

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory) ...

[Anthony Baldwin]

On 09/21/2016 11:20 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

Anthony Baldwin wrote:

giving the full path in the rc.xml doesn't seem to make
any difference.


Are you sure openbox is aware of the change ?
(Did you restart it ? Does it react immediately on newly added
 key combinations ?)


Normally, yes, OBx would, indeed reload, the configurations in its 
rc.xml file upon a --restart and immediately implement any changes.




Yes, the $PATH is set in my .bashrc...
Wait.. Is this why I can start them in a terminal, but openbox can't?


Possibly.

It depends on when and by what entity the openbox window manager was
started and whether it uses PATH to find commands.
If the starter was some kind of shell, then it probably has forwarded
its own PATH variable to openbox. If it was something more fancy, then
behavior depends on the mood of its developers.

You could put a script into /usr/bin (where it will be found, i hope),
let it print the PATH to a file, bind it to a key combination, and
look what it writes into the file:
  #!/bin/sh
  echo "$PATH" >/tmp/my_openbox_test_for_PATH

But if PATH was to blame, then an absolute program path should have
helped. If it came into effect, that is.


So it's not likely a path problem it seems..

Thanks,
Tony



Have a nice day :)

Thomas




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pétition de l'april

[francois . meyer]

Bonjour à tous

Je me permets de relayer la pétition de l'april pour l'interopérabilité 
dans l'Éducation nationale :

http://formatsouverts.education/
ça ne concerne pas que les enseignants...il est facile d'imaginer ce que 
perd le logiciel libre et donc debian en étant de fait  exclu des 
établissements scolaires.

François

Re: WordPress on Debian

[gricketson]

>> Is there perhaps a definitive document that explains how WordPress
>> things are set up in Debian. The /usr/share/wordpress/readme.html 
>> starts off by unpacking the zip file, which tells me that's not the
>> document that describes The Debian Way. There's no "man wordpress" or
>> "info wordpress". The online docs I have found haven't convinced me  
>> that one is more definitive than the conflicting another, and even if
>> it did, doesn't seem to have a good explanation of The Debian Way
>> concerning WordPress.
> 
> /usr/share/doc/wordpress/README.Debian
> 
> The standard location of Debian-specific instructions for a given package.
Maybe this has some information:
https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress

==
Powered with Debian Wheezy
http://www.elchanate.org/ 
.

Re: WordPress on Debian

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On 19-09-2016 15:29, Kent West wrote:
> Is there perhaps a definitive document that explains how WordPress
> things are set up in Debian. The /usr/share/wordpress/readme.html
> starts off by unpacking the zip file, which tells me that's not the
> document that describes The Debian Way. There's no "man wordpress" or
> "info wordpress". The online docs I have found haven't convinced me
> that one is more definitive than the conflicting another, and even if
> it did, doesn't seem to have a good explanation of The Debian Way
> concerning WordPress.

/usr/share/doc/wordpress/README.Debian

The standard location of Debian-specific instructions for a given package.


-- 
The best you get is an even break.
-- Franklin Adams

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
edua...@kalinowski.com.br

Re: Need a tutorial

[tomas]

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all, Dr Klepp in particular;
> 
> Where can I get a tut on doing the ssh keyfile login, and where can I 
> find a tutorial that is essentialy what Dr. Klepp had me do about a year  
> back that made these 3 commands in my rc.local file Just Work:

Basically:

 1. you need a keypair. Unless you have it already, you generate one
with ssh-keygen. There, you have the choice to let it use the default
file name (typically, ~/.ssh/id_rsa and ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub or similar,
depending on the key type) and whether you want the private key
protected by a passphrase (recommended, but you have to unlock it
either with ssh-add or whatever mechanism your desktop environment
has for you).

 2. you copy the public part to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the server's
user you want to log into -- there's the handy "ssh-copy-id" for that.
From the client

ssh-add # if not done already
ssh-copy-id user@server # enter for one last time user's password there

This is the bird's view. Ask if you get stuck.

regards
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Re: problem mouse copy/past from PDF

[tomas]

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:38:41AM +0100, Brian wrote:

[...]

> Although it is a different topic
> 
>  
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26066535/ps2pdf-creates-a-very-big-pdf-file-from-paps-created-ps-file
> 
> backs up your "pretty funny" feeling. KenS is a Ghostscript developer.

Thanks for the link.

- From a cursory look at the .ps I had that impression:

  "The problem is the paps file, it doesn't actually contain any text
   at all, in a PostScript sense.

   Each character is stored as a procedure, where a path is drawn and
   then filled. This is NOT stored in a font, just in a dictionary."

so paps basically "paints" the text. 

Yikes. I still hoped to be wrong :-(

> Maybe this new version does not fix mouse copying from a PDF generated
> from paps' PS but it isn't in unstable anyway. (Furthermore, paps isn't
> in testing due to a FTBFS).

Let's hope. In the meantime use a2ps (but I don't know how well that
handles Unicode/UTF-8). Perhaps paps's author had a strong reason to
do it that way.

regards
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Re: daniel; iniciante em linux

[Rodrigo Cunha]

Eu gosto do ubuntu e do linux mint, são boas para usuários...
Já utilizei debian para desktop com gnome mas hoje só uso debian para
servidor, na época, lá pelos idos de 2012 eu instalei o xfce(ambiente
grafico) para gastar menor recursos de memória, sinceramente eu gostei do
xfce...
O linux na instalação, de cara vai te dar o grub para instalar, o grub vai
servir para criar um bootloader, que é um programa executado antes de
carregar o sistema que serve para te mostrar opções de qual S/O vc quer
bootar.
Eu prefiro sempre instalar o linux primeiro e o windows depois, porque na
LPI tem algumas questões que pedem para colocar a partição boot nos
primeiros cilindros do hd...
Sinceramente nunca tive problemas com isso, mas...faço sempre.

Em 21 de setembro de 2016 10:09, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro <
l...@dutras.org> escreveu:

> Por favor mantenha a discussão na lista, e evite responder no topo.
>
>
> 2016-09-21 10:02 GMT-03:00 Daniel Roma :
> > então, posso pbaixar qualquer versão no site do debian, até de 32 bits,
> para
> > testar ou experimentar pelo livd cd?
>
> Sim.
>
>
> > porque no começo, ou experimentar usando pelo cd, selecionando opção
> > experimentar pelo cd, assim como fiz no linux ubuntu 14.04
>
> Não entendi, a frase parece truncada.
>
>
> --
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> +55 (61) 3546 7191  gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org
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> BRAZIL GMT−3  MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
>
>


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Atenciosamente,
Rodrigo da Silva Cunha

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory) ...

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:20:31PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> You could put a script into /usr/bin (where it will be found, i hope),
> let it print the PATH to a file, bind it to a key combination, and
> look what it writes into the file:
>   #!/bin/sh
>   echo "$PATH" >/tmp/my_openbox_test_for_PATH

Or you can use  ps eww -p "$(pgrep openbox)"  (or directly substitute
the PID you want in case that command substitution is wrong; it works
for me with fvwm).  The PATH should be visible in the process's
environment as displayed by ps.  There may be a lot of noise to filter
out, of course.

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory) ...

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> giving the full path in the rc.xml doesn't seem to make
> any difference.

Are you sure openbox is aware of the change ?
(Did you restart it ? Does it react immediately on newly added
 key combinations ?)


> Yes, the $PATH is set in my .bashrc...
> Wait.. Is this why I can start them in a terminal, but openbox can't?

Possibly.

It depends on when and by what entity the openbox window manager was
started and whether it uses PATH to find commands.
If the starter was some kind of shell, then it probably has forwarded
its own PATH variable to openbox. If it was something more fancy, then
behavior depends on the mood of its developers.

You could put a script into /usr/bin (where it will be found, i hope),
let it print the PATH to a file, bind it to a key combination, and
look what it writes into the file:
  #!/bin/sh
  echo "$PATH" >/tmp/my_openbox_test_for_PATH

But if PATH was to blame, then an absolute program path should have
helped. If it came into effect, that is.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Fwd: Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory) ...

[Anthony Baldwin]

Sorry that you're getting this twice again, Thomas,
but I keep flummoxing the list-reply function (old age + brain tumor).

Tony

On 09/21/2016 09:54 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

Tony Baldwin wrote:

.config/openbox/rc.xml
bid


Well, a short while ago with cron it helped to tell the clueless
software where the script is by an absolute path.
Probably:

/home/tony/bin/bid


I just tried, and giving the full path in the rc.xml doesn't seem to 
make any difference.



Shortuts for stuff in /bin/ or /usr/bin/ [...] seem to work fine


What user started the software ? And when ?

I'm the only user on this system.
Does when really matter?
Every time/any time I get these errors now.

Was PATH already set to the value you are seeing in the shell ?

Yes, the $PATH is set in my .bashrc...
Wait.. Is this why I can start them in a terminal, but openbox can't?
Because the path is being set in my .bashrc, and, thus, only for shells 
I open?

When I switch to su, echo $PATH, of course, gives a different response
(includes /sbin/ stuff, but not $HOME anything),
If this is the problem, how to I get my $HOME/bin permanently in the 
path so openbox can run stuff from there, too?





Have a nice day :)

Thomas




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Re: 'Wiring down' hard disks

[Reco]

Hi.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 08:03:46PM +, ch_e...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi
> Could someone please advise me the best way to ensure a particular hard disk 
> (SATA) always appears at a specific device node, i.e how can I be sure 
> /dev/sdb for example is always going to refer to a specific drive even if 
> others are added or removed?
> UUIDs only apply to partitions, is there no way to do a similar thing for a 
> physical disk?
> I have some existing partitioned and formatted disks in a server which I want 
> to plug into another machine and move the services over to a VM

It's possible, although unless you're trying to change device's
permissions permanently you'd better use those /dev/disk/by-id symlinks
instead.

What you'd need is a custom udev rule like this (in a single line):

KERNEL=="sd*", BUS=="scsi", PROGRAM=="/lib/udev/scsi_id -g -d $devnode",
RESULT==, NAME=

Where device UUID can be obtained by:

/lib/udev/scsi_id -g 


Another dirty hack (as it's not intended to be used this way) whould be
configuring multipathing with a single path representing your disk
device.

Reco

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> it seems that I am using lightdm.

I know of absolutely no documentation for configuring lightdm as a
user.  I suspect that the software *has* no user configuration at all,
because every search I've ever done has come up with nothing.

(For example, https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM has zero instances of
"home" or "~" or "dot".)

So then we enter the murky waters of "what happens after lightdm".
Here I can only find hints and conjectures and anecdotes.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg02242.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/12/msg00775.html
https://faq.i3wm.org/question/2483/howto-debian-wheezy-lightdm-i3.1.html
...

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Tony Baldwin]

On 09/21/2016 10:01 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:43:15AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have various scripts in $HOME/bin, many of which I have put in my
.config/openbox/rc.xml so I can fire them off with a keybinding combo, like

How do you login?  With a display manager?  Which one?


it seems that I am using lightdm.



when I press W-b, and some others I get this:
Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)

And you believe it's because of a PATH mismatch.  OK.  I don't have
experience with whichever desktop or window manager this is.


This is why my subject included a call-out to openbox users
(not that I don't appreciate others trying to help).



But the script IS in  ~/bin/
$ which bid
/home/tony/bin/bid
and that dir IS in my $PATH:
$ echo $PATH
/home/tony/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

Now here's the real issue: this is the PATH variable of some interactive
shell.  But your window manager (or whatever is reacting to your key
events) may have a *different* PATH.


That suddenly occurred to me, that my shell is using the path set in the 
.bashrc, but openbox may not; but these things used to work fine, so I 
can't figure out what changed to make it any different now.


For example, it is possible that your wm has some PATH determined by
the files that are read upon login, and then you launch a terminal
from your wm, and the terminal launches a shell, and the shell reads
~/.bashrc or whatever, and ~/.bashrc changes the PATH of the shell
so that your commands work.

But the poor wm is still stuck with the PATH that it got when you logged
in, which presumably does not read ~/.bashrc or any other shell dot files.

That's why you have to understand whichever login method you use, and
how to configure it.

I have a dream that one day, Debian developers will wake the hell up
and document these things.  (I've been too lazy so far to dedicate a
few hours/days to installing and removing display managers and desktop
environments in order to reverse engineer each combination and try to
figure out what dot files they use.  But the thought has crossed my
mind.  That's how blightedly BAD the situation is.)



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Re: [Jessie stable -Firefox]problème d'encodage sur site web du RSI

[Eric Degenetais]

bonjour,
reste la question qui tue: leur site est-il miteux, ou bien FF a tort
de ne pas reconnaître le bouzin, ou bien un peu des deux?
Bien sûr pour un usager surtout quand il y a une démarche
administrative vitale à la clef, l'important est de trouver un outil
qui fasse le taff, mais ensuite...

bonne fin de journée
__
Éric Dégenètais
Henix

http://www.henix.com
http://www.squashtest.org



Le 21 septembre 2016 à 14:32, Christophe De Natale
 a écrit :
> Le 21/09/2016 à 16:14, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
>>
>> Le Wed, 21 Sep 2016 16:03:19 +0200,
>> Christophe De Natale  a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Je rencontre un problème d'affichage quand je me connecte à mon
>>> compte du RSI.
>>> Les menus apparaissent de cette
>>> façon : ???en_US???"titre_du_menu???en_US??? Pas pratique pour aller
>>> payer ses cotisations ou naviguer sur mon compte :D
>>>
>>> Je viens de passer une demie-heure avec l'assistance technique qui a
>>> ré-initialisé mon compte mais cela n'a pas réglé le problème.
>>> Le technicien, lorsqu'il se connecte voit tout normalement et
>>> préconise d'utiliser Internet Explorer...
>>>
>>> Pensez-vous que je puisse y remédier de mon côté ou c'est peine
>>> perdue ? Je n'ai pas de problème similaire sur d'autres sites.
>>>
>>> Merci,
>>>
>>> Christophe
>>>
>> bonjour,
>>
>> serait il possible de faire l'essai avec chromium ?
>>
>> slt
>> bernard
>
> Merci, effectivement cela fonctionne sans problème...
>
> Christophe
>

Re: [Jessie stable -Firefox]problème d'encodage sur site web du RSI

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 21/09/2016 à 16:14, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

Le Wed, 21 Sep 2016 16:03:19 +0200,
Christophe De Natale  a écrit :


Bonjour,

Je rencontre un problème d'affichage quand je me connecte à mon
compte du RSI.
Les menus apparaissent de cette
façon : ???en_US???"titre_du_menu???en_US??? Pas pratique pour aller
payer ses cotisations ou naviguer sur mon compte :D

Je viens de passer une demie-heure avec l'assistance technique qui a
ré-initialisé mon compte mais cela n'a pas réglé le problème.
Le technicien, lorsqu'il se connecte voit tout normalement et
préconise d'utiliser Internet Explorer...

Pensez-vous que je puisse y remédier de mon côté ou c'est peine
perdue ? Je n'ai pas de problème similaire sur d'autres sites.

Merci,

Christophe


bonjour,

serait il possible de faire l'essai avec chromium ?

slt
bernard

Merci, effectivement cela fonctionne sans problème...

Christophe

Need a tutorial

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all, Dr Klepp in particular;

Where can I get a tut on doing the ssh keyfile login, and where can I 
find a tutorial that is essentialy what Dr. Klepp had me do about a year  
back that made these 3 commands in my rc.local file Just Work:

su gene -c "sshfs gene@shop:/ /sshnet/shop"
su gene -c "sshfs gene@lathe:/ /sshnet/lathe"
su gene -c "sshfs gene@GO704:/ /sshnet/GO704"

I am in the process of bringing up a 4th machine, but those messages seem 
to have disappeared from my email corpus. The folder they were in has a 
6 month expiry set. I should have marked them as important, but 
apparently I failed to do that, distracted by doing the procedure, which 
worked a treat.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Need a tutorial

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Where can I get a tut on doing the ssh keyfile login, and where can I 
> find a tutorial that is essentialy what Dr. Klepp had me do about a year  
> back that made these 3 commands in my rc.local file Just Work:
> 
> su gene -c "sshfs gene@shop:/ /sshnet/shop"
> su gene -c "sshfs gene@lathe:/ /sshnet/lathe"
> su gene -c "sshfs gene@GO704:/ /sshnet/GO704"

You need to set up key authentication between your local account (as
client) and the remote server.  Usually this is done by having an ssh
keypair (generating one if you don't already have one), then sending
the public key (NOT the private key) to the remote machine, and appending
it to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file of the target account.

man ssh-keygen
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/SshKeys

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[Jessie stable -Firefox]problème d'encodage sur site web du RSI

[Christophe De Natale]

Bonjour,

Je rencontre un problème d'affichage quand je me connecte à mon compte 
du RSI.

Les menus apparaissent de cette façon : ???en_US???"titre_du_menu???en_US???
Pas pratique pour aller payer ses cotisations ou naviguer sur mon compte :D

Je viens de passer une demie-heure avec l'assistance technique qui a 
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Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:43:15AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I have various scripts in $HOME/bin, many of which I have put in my 
> .config/openbox/rc.xml so I can fire them off with a keybinding combo, like

How do you login?  With a display manager?  Which one?

> when I press W-b, and some others I get this:
> Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)

And you believe it's because of a PATH mismatch.  OK.  I don't have
experience with whichever desktop or window manager this is.

> But the script IS in  ~/bin/
> $ which bid
> /home/tony/bin/bid
> and that dir IS in my $PATH:
> $ echo $PATH
> /home/tony/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

Now here's the real issue: this is the PATH variable of some interactive
shell.  But your window manager (or whatever is reacting to your key
events) may have a *different* PATH.

For example, it is possible that your wm has some PATH determined by
the files that are read upon login, and then you launch a terminal
from your wm, and the terminal launches a shell, and the shell reads
~/.bashrc or whatever, and ~/.bashrc changes the PATH of the shell
so that your commands work.

But the poor wm is still stuck with the PATH that it got when you logged
in, which presumably does not read ~/.bashrc or any other shell dot files.

That's why you have to understand whichever login method you use, and
how to configure it.

I have a dream that one day, Debian developers will wake the hell up
and document these things.  (I've been too lazy so far to dedicate a
few hours/days to installing and removing display managers and desktop
environments in order to reverse engineer each combination and try to
figure out what dot files they use.  But the thought has crossed my
mind.  That's how blightedly BAD the situation is.)

Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Darac Marjal]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:43:15AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Greetings, friends,

I have various scripts in $HOME/bin, many of which I have put in my 
.config/openbox/rc.xml so I can fire them off with a keybinding combo, 
like


 
   
 true
 bid
   
   bid
 
   


(This particular one does cat ~/Documents/bid  | xclip -selection c)
bid.txt being a template letter for bidding on translation projects.
I use this to quickly copy the file and then paste it into an e-mail,
then do any relevant edits.
I'my lazy and like to automate things as much as possible where I can 
slap a few keys (Alt-m brings up icedove, Ctrl N to compose a new 
message, then W-b/Ctrl-v to copy and paste my bid template),
These things used to work perfectly in Wheezy, and even in a previous 
Jessie installation, but working in a new Jessie installation,

when I press W-b, and some others I get this:
Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)
But the script IS in  ~/bin/
$ which bid
/home/tony/bin/bid
and that dir IS in my $PATH:
$ echo $PATH
/home/tony/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
and it IS executable:
$ ls -la bin/ | grep bid
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tony tony 142 Oct  4  2012 bid
I can execute these scripts from a terminal without any problem but 
not via the shortcuts in my rc.xml, nor with grun (shortcut W-r brings 
that up fine), nor with dmenu (W-p also working fine)

, and other stuff
Shortuts for stuff in /bin/ or /usr/bin/ (such as for icedove and 
iceweasel) seem to work fine, I can lock my screen (W-x engages 
slock); it's just my own scripts and stuff in ~/bin that are giving me 
trouble..


Why?


Does the file start with a valid "shebang" line? When you tell some 
program to run a file "foo", typically what happens is that the program 
invokes a standard call (Actually, I'm not sure if this behaviour is in 
the kernel or in libc, either way, it's a "system function") that says 
"execute this file". Now, if the file is actually executable (e.g.  
something that you compiled), then you should be good to go, but if it's 
a script file, then... well the processor doesn't know how to interpret 
"echo Hello world".


However, if the first two characters of the file are "#!" 
(Pound/octothorpe/hash followed by exclamation-mark/bang... Hash-Bang...  
haSH-BANG... shebang), then the system identifies this file as a script.  
The remainder of that line (i.e. everything between the bang and the 
newline) is taken to be the actual command line to be run. So, that 
command is run instead and your script is passed to it on stdin.


So in summary, a script should start with something like:

 #!/bin/sh

 echo hello world

It should follow, though, that you don't HAVE to add the shebang line IF 
you call a proper executable and pass it the name of your script. That 
is:


 $ ~/bin/bid# Needs a shebang
 $ /bin/sh ~/bin/bid# Doesn't need a shebang, but it won't hurt

Also, a few final things to be aware of:

* Not all programs expand ~
* ~ will expand to the home directory of the calling user (so watch out 
in cron jobs)

* Not all programs bother to search the PATH

So, if you're asking a program other than a full shell to execute 
something for you, it's best to give an absolute path.




tia,
tony



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Re: Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory) ...

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Tony Baldwin wrote:
> .config/openbox/rc.xml
> bid

Well, a short while ago with cron it helped to tell the clueless
software where the script is by an absolute path.
Probably:

/home/tony/bin/bid

> Shortuts for stuff in /bin/ or /usr/bin/ [...] seem to work fine

What user started the software ? And when ?
Was PATH already set to the value you are seeing in the shell ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/21/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 9/21/2016 7:06 AM, David wrote:

On 21 September 2016 at 21:59, Richard Owlett
 wrote:

I'm learning the shell.


Which shell?


That may be an an even better question than meets the eye.

I have two use cases:
   1. the immediate one being whatever shell MATE terminal uses.
  Sub-question: When in an arbitrary terminal of an arbitrary
Desktop Environment,
 how would I determine which shell is in use?
   2. The motivation for learning shell is to create a custom
preseed.cfg file as per
  "B.5.3. Chainloading preconfiguration files" of
_Installation Manual_.




Thank you all for answers. They even prompted a few questions I 
didn't know I should have asked ;/


I have found:
  1. Mate Terminal uses bash.
  2. entering /bin/sh puts me in dash
 Which is what scripts placed in preseed.cfg use. [my 
motivation for journey]
 Makes the question of command history and variable 
persistence moot.


Later.

Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory), but the script DOES exist in $HOME/bin, openbox users, especially take a look, please.

[Tony Baldwin]

Greetings, friends,

I have various scripts in $HOME/bin, many of which I have put in my 
.config/openbox/rc.xml so I can fire them off with a keybinding combo, like


  

  true
  bid

bid
  



(This particular one does cat ~/Documents/bid  | xclip -selection c)
bid.txt being a template letter for bidding on translation projects.
I use this to quickly copy the file and then paste it into an e-mail,
then do any relevant edits.
I'my lazy and like to automate things as much as possible where I can 
slap a few keys (Alt-m brings up icedove, Ctrl N to compose a new 
message, then W-b/Ctrl-v to copy and paste my bid template),
These things used to work perfectly in Wheezy, and even in a previous 
Jessie installation, but working in a new Jessie installation,

when I press W-b, and some others I get this:
Failed to execute child process (no such file or directory)
But the script IS in  ~/bin/
$ which bid
/home/tony/bin/bid
and that dir IS in my $PATH:
$ echo $PATH
/home/tony/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
and it IS executable:
$ ls -la bin/ | grep bid
-rwxr-xr-x   1 tony tony 142 Oct  4  2012 bid
I can execute these scripts from a terminal without any problem but not 
via the shortcuts in my rc.xml, nor with grun (shortcut W-r brings that 
up fine), nor with dmenu (W-p also working fine)

, and other stuff
Shortuts for stuff in /bin/ or /usr/bin/ (such as for icedove and 
iceweasel) seem to work fine, I can lock my screen (W-x engages slock); 
it's just my own scripts and stuff in ~/bin that are giving me trouble..


Why?

tia,
tony



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all tony, all the time

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[John Hasler]

Gregg writes:
> imadev:~$ csh
> % echo "$0"
> No file for $0.

Well, that tells you that you are running something weird and
nonstandard such as csh.  But if you are running csh you already knew
that.

If

echo $0

doesn't produce satisfactory results run

ps

and examine the output.
-- 
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jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 08:18:36AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> To find out what shell you are running type
> 
> echo $0

imadev:~$ csh
% echo "$0"
No file for $0.

The world's a much bigger place than just the Bourne family of shells,
unfortunately.

ps -p $$   # works in csh too

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[John Hasler]

Richard writes:
> When in an arbitrary terminal of an arbitrary Desktop Environment, how
> would I determine which shell is in use?

To find out what shell is the login shell type

echo $SHELL

To find out what shell you are running type

echo $0

To run the Korn shell type

ksh

To kill the shell you are currenting using type

control-D

To clear bash command history on logout truncate ~.bash_history in
~.bash_logout.


Note that desktop environments do not respect Unix conventions and
standards so some of the above may not work as expected in some DEs.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: daniel; iniciante em linux

[Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro]

Por favor mantenha a discussão na lista, e evite responder no topo.


2016-09-21 10:02 GMT-03:00 Daniel Roma :
> então, posso pbaixar qualquer versão no site do debian, até de 32 bits, para
> testar ou experimentar pelo livd cd?

Sim.


> porque no começo, ou experimentar usando pelo cd, selecionando opção
> experimentar pelo cd, assim como fiz no linux ubuntu 14.04

Não entendi, a frase parece truncada.


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Jessie - PHP 5.6 update?

[Jan Ingvoldstad]

Hi,

I was wondering if the security updates in 5.6.25 and 5.6.26 might make it
into Jessie soon, does anyone know why there is a delay?

It's of course possible to use dotdeb's packages, but I prefer the official
update path.

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Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 07:30:50AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>   1. the immediate one being whatever shell MATE terminal uses.

Unless it's completely diverging from Unix standards, it should launch
your user account's shell as defined either by the $SHELL environment
variable, or by your entry in the passwd database.

>  Sub-question: When in an arbitrary terminal of an arbitrary 
> Desktop Environment,
> how would I determine which shell is in use?

In my experience, the simplest way to see what shell you are in is to
run this command:

ps -p $$

This command "works" (for varying definitions) in Bourne-family shells,
csh-family shells, BSD systems, and System V systems.

But you'd also be well-served to check out the $SHELL variable, and
your own entry in /etc/passwd or whichever passwd database you happen
to be using, and to understand what it means.

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/21/2016 7:06 AM, David wrote:

On 21 September 2016 at 21:59, Richard Owlett  wrote:

I'm learning the shell.


Which shell?


That may be an an even better question than meets the eye.

I have two use cases:
  1. the immediate one being whatever shell MATE terminal uses.
 Sub-question: When in an arbitrary terminal of an arbitrary 
Desktop Environment,

how would I determine which shell is in use?
  2. The motivation for learning shell is to create a custom 
preseed.cfg file as per
 "B.5.3. Chainloading preconfiguration files" of 
_Installation Manual_.





Try 'man whatever.shell.you.are.using' and read what it says about "history".

In bash for example, you can set HISTFILESIZE to zero.

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:18:50 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:

Hello Richard,

>Is this a systemd thing?

No, it's a bash thing.  If you're not using bash (IDK what Mate's
terminal is based on) then it won't exist.  Look for something like
equivalent to see what you've got, if anything.

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Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Peter Ludikovsky]

Hello,

Not a bug, but a feature since the first C shell release in 1978 [1],
which was copied to pretty much every shell created since (Korn
shell/ksh, Bourne again shell/bash, Z shell/zsh, …). The reason behind
it is that – since Unix predates most graphical user interfaces, and
most of the time the computers were accessed over slow modem lines – in
case of a disconnect you might want to know which commands you entered
last, and maybe re-run them with different parameters.

But really, this shouldn't influence your learning. After all, the shell
only remembers the history of entered commands, it does neither replay
those commands, nor save the state of the shell upon exit. Think of it
as kind of the URL history a browser saves. Just because the URL is
saved, it doesn't automatically load the page on startup. Depending on
the shell you're actually using, it might even be possible to
temporarily disable the shell history, akin to “Incognito Mode”.

Regards
/peter

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_shell#History

On 09/21/2016 01:59 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm learning the shell.
> I experiment with test cases in "MATE Terminal"
> The "up arrow" key is useful to recall previous command for editing.
> I hadn't expected it when I found all instances of "MATE Terminal" share
> same history.
> 
> *HOWEVER* I found that history remains after a "power off", "boot" cycle.
> That is *UNACCEPTABLE* for my purposes.
> To start FRESH was the purpose of "power off", "boot" cycle.
> 
> BUG?
> Workaround?
> 
> TIA
> 



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Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Richard Owlett]

On 9/21/2016 7:04 AM, humbert.olivie...@free.fr wrote:

De: "Richard Owlett" 

Workaround?


rm ~/.bash_history

HTH


It didn't :<
No such file seems to exist in any directory.
Is this a systemd thing?

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[David]

On 21 September 2016 at 21:59, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> I'm learning the shell.

Which shell?

Try 'man whatever.shell.you.are.using' and read what it says about "history".

In bash for example, you can set HISTFILESIZE to zero.

Re: Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[humbert . olivier . 1]

De: "Richard Owlett" 
> Workaround?

rm ~/.bash_history

HTH

Jessie (8.0) - Unexpected behavior of "MATE Terminal" after reboot

[Richard Owlett]

I'm learning the shell.
I experiment with test cases in "MATE Terminal"
The "up arrow" key is useful to recall previous command for editing.
I hadn't expected it when I found all instances of "MATE 
Terminal" share same history.


*HOWEVER* I found that history remains after a "power off", 
"boot" cycle.

That is *UNACCEPTABLE* for my purposes.
To start FRESH was the purpose of "power off", "boot" cycle.

BUG?
Workaround?

TIA

Re: Remove Account

[Kent West]

On Sep 21, 2016 4:30 AM, "Michael Lange"  wrote:

> .-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

I'm so rusty with my Morse, it took me a minute and some effort to decode
this. I always planned to get good at code. Maybe I will, if your alien
blessing works for me ;-)

-- 
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Re: problem mouse copy/past from PDF

[Brian]

On Tue 20 Sep 2016 at 21:05:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:30:10PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > Selection of text from a pdf isn't always possible with evince. Example:
> > 
> >   paps /etc/nssitch.conf > nsswitch.ps
> ^^^ probably typo
> >   ps2pdf nsswitch.ps nsswitch.pdf
> > 
> > When it is selectable it isn't necessarily capable of being copied.
> > 
> > Isn't life confusing?
> 
> I can confirm that a pdf produced this way has no usable text to
> select (tested here with xpdf). If you generate the .ps with a2ps
> 
>   a2ps /etc/nsswitch.conf -o nsswitch.ps
> 
> then "it works". Thus, it seems to be paps who's doing something
> strange (and in fact, looking at the Postscript file yields something
> pretty funny. Paps seems to be out-smarting itself.
> 
> Note that a Postscript (or a PDF) can render something which *looks*
> like text, but for all purposes *isn't* a text (for an extreme case,
> think a bitmap image of a text).

Although it is a different topic

 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26066535/ps2pdf-creates-a-very-big-pdf-file-from-paps-created-ps-file

backs up your "pretty funny" feeling. KenS is a Ghostscript developer.

  > The problem is the paps file, it doesn't actually contain any
  > text at all, in a PostScript sense.

The response was

  > As the author of paps, I agree with the above description of
  > paps' inner workings. Indeed, I chose to create my own font
  > mechanism in the postscript language. That is history though
  > as I have just released a new version of paps that uses cairo
  > for its postscript, pdf, or svg rendering.

Maybe this new version does not fix mouse copying from a PDF generated
from paps' PS but it isn't in unstable anyway. (Furthermore, paps isn't
in testing due to a FTBFS).

-- 
Brian.

Re: [testing] problème de pinning

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 21/09/16 à 00:52, Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :
GP> Mon problème c'est que chez moi avec ces préférences un apt upgrade ou un
GP> apt-get upgrade veut mettre à jour par rapport à unstable et non testing !
GP> 
GP> J'en perds mon latin (bon certes il n'y a pas grand à perdre ... ;) )

apt-cache policy

devrait te mettre sur la piste (en tout cas te dire la priorité qu'il donne à 
chacun)

-- 
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surtout quand Elle a le diable au corps.
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Re: [testing] problème de pinning

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 21/09/16 à 00:52, Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit :
GP>Package: *
GP>Pin: release a=testing
GP>Pin-Priority: 900
GP> 
GP>Package: *
GP>Pin: release a=unstable
GP>Pin-Priority: 800
GP> 
GP>Package: *
GP>Pin: release o=Debian
GP>Pin-Priority: -10

GP> Mon problème c'est que chez moi avec ces préférences un apt upgrade ou un
GP> apt-get upgrade veut mettre à jour par rapport à unstable et non testing !

Tu n'as rien d'autre dans tes prefs apt ?

cat /etc/apt/preferences /etc/apt/preferences.d/*

GP> J'en perds mon latin (bon certes il n'y a pas grand à perdre ... ;) )
GP> 
GP> Autre point apt et apt-get n'amènent pas les mêmes mises à jours, je croyais
GP> que c'était équivalent ?

je croyais aussi, mais je n'utilise qu'aptitude (par habitude, avec apt-cache 
et apt-file)

-- 
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Il faut absolument la trouver pour l'empêcher de continuer !
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Re: Paquet(s) pour une installation minimal de LaTeX.

[Benoit B]

Bonjour,

Merci pour l'info,

J'ai du mal avec les Go de fichiers installés...
Rien qu'en étant minimaliste :
dpkg -l *texlive* | grep ^ii
ii  texlive-base  2014.20141024-2   all
TeX Live: Essential programs and files
ii  texlive-binaries  2014.20140926.35254-6 amd64
Binaries for TeX Live
ii  texlive-lang-french   2014.20141024-1   all
TeX Live: French
ii  texlive-latex-base2014.20141024-2   all
TeX Live: LaTeX fundamental packages
ii  texlive-latex-base-doc2014.20141024-2   all
TeX Live: Documentation files for texlive-latex-base
J'en ai déjà pour plusieurs centaines de Mo.
Mais si j'ajoute ces paquets :
aptitude -s install texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-fonts-extra
texlive-publishers texlive-lang-european texlive-doc-fr
Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants vont être installés :
  fonts-cabin{a} fonts-comfortaa{a} fonts-crosextra-caladea{a}
fonts-crosextra-carlito{a} fonts-ebgaramond{a}
fonts-ebgaramond-extra{a}
  fonts-font-awesome{a} fonts-freefont-otf{a} fonts-gfs-artemisia{a}
fonts-gfs-complutum{a} fonts-gfs-didot{a} fonts-gfs-neohellenic{a}
  fonts-gfs-olga{a} fonts-gfs-solomos{a} fonts-inconsolata{a}
fonts-junicode{a} fonts-lato{a} fonts-linuxlibertine{a}
fonts-lobster{a}
  fonts-lobstertwo{a} fonts-oflb-asana-math{a} fonts-sil-gentium{a}
fonts-sil-gentium-basic{a} fonts-stix{a} fonts-texgyre{a} prerex{a}
  preview-latex-style{a} prosper{a} tex-gyre{a} texlive-bibtex-extra
texlive-doc-fr texlive-extra-utils{a} texlive-font-utils{a}
texlive-fonts-extra
  texlive-fonts-extra-doc{a} texlive-fonts-recommended{a}
texlive-fonts-recommended-doc{a} texlive-generic-recommended{a}
texlive-lang-european
  texlive-latex-extra{a} texlive-latex-extra-doc{a}
texlive-latex-recommended{a} texlive-latex-recommended-doc{a}
texlive-pictures{a}
  texlive-pictures-doc{a} texlive-pstricks{a} texlive-pstricks-doc{a}
texlive-publishers texlive-publishers-doc{a} tipa{a}
ttf-adf-accanthis{a}
  ttf-adf-gillius{a} ttf-adf-universalis{a} vprerex{a}
0 paquets mis à jour, 54 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non
mis à jour.
Il est nécessaire de télécharger 1.020 Mo d'archives. Après
dépaquetage, 1.822 Mo seront utilisés.
Voulez-vous continuer ? [Y/n/?]

Je dépasserais les 2 Go d'installation(en comptant ce que j'ai déjà installé).

Là j'ai une installation de base qui me semble déjà fort chère payée en volume.
J'ai du booter sur une live pour redimentionner mes partitions car
l'installation des paquets texlive*(texlive-base, binaries,
lang-french, latex-base, latex-base-doc) avaient saturés ma partition
/ qui comprend (bin boot lib lib64 proc root sbin usr) .

N'y a-t-il pas moyen d'être plus sélectif à partir du CTAN ?
Me demandant si il y a un gestionnaire de paquet spécifique à LaTeX,
j'ai un peu cherché(mais pas encore essayé)
https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/tlmgr.html#DESCRIPTION
http://tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html

Quelqu'un connait ?

Merci d'avance.

--
Benoit











aptitude -s install texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-fonts-extra
texlive-publishers texlive-lang-european texlive-doc-fr

Le 19 septembre 2016 à 00:22, Bernard Schoenacker
 a écrit :
> Le Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:17:33 +,
> Benoit B  a écrit :
>
>> Je viens de regarder, c'est un éditeur…
>>
>> Je ne penses plutôt utiliser emacs, j'y ai déjà mes macros pour
>> l'insertion de bloc , etc.
>
> bonjour,
>
>
> pas de problème pour emacs, alors tu choisi les paquets dépendants de
> gummi et tu installes auctex 
>
> apt-cache search texlive french
> texlive-lang-french - français pour TeX Live
> texlive-bibtex-extra - TeX Live: BibTeX additional styles
> texlive-fonts-extra - TeX Live: Additional fonts
> texlive-latex-extra - TeX Live: LaTeX additional packages
> texlive-publishers - TeX Live: Publisher styles, theses, etc.
> texlive-lang-european - TeX Live: Other European languages
> texlive-doc-fr - TeX Live: transitional dummy package
>
>
> remarque :
>
> je conseille de passer en version sid pour les paquets texlive
>
> la preuve:
>
> rmadison texlive-lang-french
> texlive-lang-french | 2012.20120611-2 | oldstable   | all
> texlive-lang-french | 2014.20141024-1 | stable  | all
> texlive-lang-french | 2014.20141024-1 | stable-kfreebsd | all
> texlive-lang-french | 2016.20160819-1 | testing | all
> texlive-lang-french | 2016.20160819-1 | unstable| all
>
>
> slt
> bernard

Re: Remove Account

[Michael Lange]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:08:12 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

(...)
> Sadly that doesn't help with the OP's problem.  That requires access to
> the subscribed email address.  He no longer has access to the
> subscribed email address and everything is being forwarded to him so he
> wants to stop it..

Here I set up a "fake" account in my email client to handle mail from my
sourceforge account. So if sf forwards some email to me I can reply with
my usern...@users.sf.net address and to the receivers it will look as if
the reply was actually sent through a sf server (unless they look closely
at some of the usually "hidden" header lines). I guess the OP could do the
same for his umich.edu account.
I don't know though if gmail would deliver such an email with a "fake"
"from"-address, freenet.de obviously does and they are probably not
the only mail provider doing so.
I doubt that this will be necessary, though, since I believe the first
suggestion from Thomas Schmitt should do the trick.

Regards

Michael

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Re: Problem with dpkg-source -b outside current working dir

[Malte Forkel]

Am 21.09.2016 um 06:04 schrieb kamaraju kusumanchi:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Malte Forkel  wrote:
>> Am 20.09.2016 um 07:33 schrieb kamaraju kusumanchi:
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 4:33 AM, Malte Forkel 
>> wrote:
 Hi,

 according to the man page, dpkg-source -b takes an argument that is "the
  name  of the directory containing the debianized source tree". But that
 does not work for me if the directory is not the current working
>> directory.

 When is execute dpkg-source in the package's source directory, i.e.
SRCDIR$ dpkg-source -b .
 everything works fine. But if I execute dpkg-source from a different
 directory with the absolute path as its argument
/tmp$ dpkg-source -b $SRCDIR
 it complains that can't find the original tarball at
 ../pkg_vers.orig.tar.*. Shouldn't it look into $SRCDIR/..?

>>>
>>> Is the $SRCDIR variable set to anything? What is the output of
>>>
>>> echo $SRCDIR
>>>
>> Sorry for the confusion. I just used SRCDIR as a placeholder for the
>> real directory name in my example. And I should have written SRCDIR
>> (instead of $SRCDIR) in the second part to make that clear.
>>
> 
> It seems to be working fine for me
> 
> // Create two empty directories and download source into one of them
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x % mkdir x1 x2
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x % cd x1
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x/x1 % apt-get source python-popcon
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> NOTICE: 'python-popcon' packaging is maintained in the 'Git' version
> control system at:
> git://github.com/venthur/python-popcon.git
> Need to get 5,429 B of source archives.
> Get:1 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main python-popcon
> 1.1 (dsc) [1,489 B]
> Get:2 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main python-popcon
> 1.1 (tar) [3,940 B]
> Fetched 5,429 B in 0s (15.2 kB/s)
> dpkg-source: info: extracting python-popcon in python-popcon-1.1
> dpkg-source: info: unpacking python-popcon_1.1.tar.gz
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x/x1 % ls
> python-popcon-1.1/  python-popcon_1.1.dsc  python-popcon_1.1.tar.gz
> 
> // Now to go the other directory and run dpkg-source based on the
> previously unpacked source.
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x/x1 % cd ../x2
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x/x2 % dpkg-source -b
> dpkg-source: --build needs a directory
> 
> Use --help for program usage information.
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x/x2 % dpkg-source -b ../x1/python-popcon-1.1
> dpkg-source: info: using source format `3.0 (native)'
> dpkg-source: info: building python-popcon in python-popcon_1.1.tar.xz
> dpkg-source: info: building python-popcon in python-popcon_1.1.dsc
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~/x/x2 % ls
> python-popcon_1.1.dsc  python-popcon_1.1.tar.xz
> 
Your example works for me too. But you are using a native package, so
there is no original archive in the parent directory that dpkg-source
would have to access. May be you could try another package, e.g. fuse,
which is not a native package?

malte@ubuntu64_vb:~/x2$ dpkg-source -b ../x1/fuse-2.9.4/
pkg-source: info: using options from
../x1/fuse-2.9.4/debian/source/options: --compression=xz
dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no
upstream tarball found at ../fuse_2.9.4.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}

> 
>>From the man page of dpkg-source, I see that this option was added in
> dpkg 1.17.14. Could you please tell which version you are using? In my
> case it is
> 
> % dpkg --version
> Debian `dpkg' package management program version 1.17.27 (amd64).
> This is free software; see the GNU General Public License version 2 or
> later for copying conditions. There is NO warranty.
> 
My version of dpkg is 1.18.4ubuntu1

Thanks, Malte

Re: Remove Account

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 21 September 2016 08:29:09 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:30:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 20 Sep 2016 at 22:40:23 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > > Brian wrote:
> > > > But you said he would read list mail as follows:
> > >
> > > He said he _receives_ list mail. He did not say that he reads it.
> > >
> > > > Now he is mass deleting it!
> > >
> > > Potentially. An assumption as base for an in-advance workaround offer.
> > >
> > > He mentioned multiple debian lists.
> > > Nobody can read them all. I'd simply tell my mail fetcher to drop them.
> > > But that's only one of the possibilities.
> > >
> > > > Talk about having it both ways!
> > >
> > > Information technology has to cope with this. Futile to complain.
> >
> > Indeed. The ball is in the OP's court. He is aware of responses to his
> > request. If he intent on getting help he has routes to follow.
> >
> > --
> > Brian.
>
> It's a bot that handles requests to join the list.
>
> debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
>
> with a subject of
>
> subscribe
>
> for example and
>
> unsubscribe
>
> Note the capitalisation.
>
> AndyC

Sadly that doesn't help with the OP's problem.  That requires access to the 
subscribed email address.  He no longer has access to the subscribed email 
address and everything is being forwarded to him so he wants to stop it..

Lisi

Re: Remove Account

[Curt]

On 2016-09-21, Andrew M.A. Cater  wrote:
>
> It's a bot that handles requests to join the list. 
>
> debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
>
> with a subject of 
>
> subscribe 
>
> for example and
>
> unsubscribe
>
> Note the capitalisation.
>
> AndyC
>

I learned something here because I had thought email addresses were case
insensitive, but apparently while that is true for the domain name part,
it isn't necessarily true for the local-part (it is server
dependent).

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Interested in adding another resource page!

[franc]

Hey there,I was doing some  
research about universities in Europe and noticed that you have this killer  
resource page on your  
site  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/01/msg01552.html . Awesome  
job!Since you’re clearly an authority on the  
subject, I though you’d be interested in checking/adding out this  
university website too. AAB was established in 2002 It is the largest  
non-public higher education institution in Kosovo and in the region of  
South East Europe with campuses in the capital city of Prishtina and in  
Gjakova and FerizajHere’s the  
websites if you’d like to check it out and include it in your resource  
page :http://aab-edu.net/en;  
target="_blank"  
data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=enq=http://aab-edu.net/ensource=gmailust=1474528443259000usg=AFQjCNF3eiZWtA3voNr8bLgDfF7-5PRnqg;>http://aab-edu.net/enAlso,I  
can link your page with another high domain rating  
website :)Cheers,Francine

Re: Remove Account

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:30:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 20 Sep 2016 at 22:40:23 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> 
> > Brian wrote:
> > > But you said he would read list mail as follows:
> > 
> > He said he _receives_ list mail. He did not say that he reads it.
> > 
> > > Now he is mass deleting it!
> > 
> > Potentially. An assumption as base for an in-advance workaround offer.
> > 
> > He mentioned multiple debian lists.
> > Nobody can read them all. I'd simply tell my mail fetcher to drop them.
> > But that's only one of the possibilities.
> > 
> > > Talk about having it both ways!
> > 
> > Information technology has to cope with this. Futile to complain.
> 
> Indeed. The ball is in the OP's court. He is aware of responses to his
> request. If he intent on getting help he has routes to follow.
> 
> -- 
> Brian.

It's a bot that handles requests to join the list. 

debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 

with a subject of 

subscribe 

for example and

unsubscribe

Note the capitalisation.

AndyC

Re: random I/O errors

[Nicolas George]

Le jour de la Récompense, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> Well, that's a better excuse than many.  Beats "I can't be bothered" any day.

If you think about it a few more seconds, you realize this is the same
issue: the MUA not selecting the correct recipients by default. Neither
unwanted CCs nor forgotten CCs happen under normal circumstances with
correctly configured lists.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: My XFCE4 Desktop

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 19 September 2016 21:28:55 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> May I share my Debian Sid/testing XFCE4 desktop with you, someplace I
> found this nice Fantasy Nature picture to put on my desktop and I like
> it. :)
> https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14409518_993783114063978_43410
>3725657510507_o.jpg I know I sometimes I behave like a child. :P

Thank you!  I like it too!

Lisi