Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[F. Dubois]

Le 20/03/2020 à 23:39, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :

Bonjour,

Autant j'arrivais à imprimer à peu près correctement la première version autant
c'est une catastrophe avec la deuxième version.

Est-ce de même pour vous ?

A+

Gaëtan

PS: en pj le résultat en impression PDF qui donne la même chose sur papier


Bonjour,

Ça ne va peut-être pas aider, mais les versions qui s'impriment mal 
correspondent à celles que l'on peut compléter numériquement, par 
exemple en utilisant Evince. Y-a-t-il un lien, et si oui pourquoi ? Là 
ça dépasse mes compétences...


Fabien

Re: HTML mail + PDF attachments

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 23:03:55 Russell L. Harris wrote:

> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9.  Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometimes is rather difficult.
>
> Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
> client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
> messages, view the links, and print the attachments.
>
> But Thunderbird is demanding the URLs of POP and SMPT servers, and I
> do not wish to allow Thunderbird to mess around with my mail, other
> than viewing specific messages.
>
> One approach would be to get a mail account strictly for this purpose,
> and set up a complete Thunderbird mail system using that account.
>
> But is there a better solution?
>
> RLH

Fetchmail as a daemon using procmail as an MTA, procmail driveing all the 
spam/virus filters. What survives that gauntlet dumped 
into /var/spool/mail and a dbus message sent to kmail telling it to go 
get the incoming mail.

Computers are supposed to reduce your work, and this flow reduces 
servicing an email to two clicks plus whatever typing I want to do.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: HTML mail + PDF attachments

[David Christensen]

On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:

At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9.  Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
and sometimes is rather difficult.

Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
messages, view the links, and print the attachments.

But Thunderbird is demanding the URLs of POP and SMPT servers, and I
do not wish to allow Thunderbird to mess around with my mail, other
than viewing specific messages.

One approach would be to get a mail account strictly for this purpose,
and set up a complete Thunderbird mail system using that account.

But is there a better solution?

RLH


If you configure all your e-mail clients to leave the messages on the 
server, you should be able to access the same e-mail server account from 
multiple clients.  Current clients using IMAP seem to work this way 
(Thunderbird, Apple Mail).



When I used POP (POP3?) clients in the past (Outlook Express, Outlook, 
Thunderbird), the clients defaulted to downloading and removing messages 
from the server.  I don't know if that was part of POP or a setting in 
the client.  If the latter, you might be able to tune your POP clients 
to leave the messages on the server.  This would enable access from 
multiple clients.



A related issue is encryption on the incoming and outgoing connections. 
Current clients and servers seem to use some variant of TLS for both.



David

HTML mail + PDF attachments

[Russell L. Harris]

At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9.  Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
and sometimes is rather difficult.

Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
messages, view the links, and print the attachments.

But Thunderbird is demanding the URLs of POP and SMPT servers, and I
do not wish to allow Thunderbird to mess around with my mail, other
than viewing specific messages.

One approach would be to get a mail account strictly for this purpose,
and set up a complete Thunderbird mail system using that account.

But is there a better solution?

RLH

Re: Buster without systemd? [with backtrack]

[David Wright]

On Wed 25 Mar 2020 at 20:18:29 (+), Liam O'Toole wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, Network Manager doesn't need a GUI either. Tools
> such as nmcli and nmtui allow you to configure and control network
> connections from the command line.

There seems to be some confusion in this subthread. Going back a little:

On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 12:14:57 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> systemd-networkd is not meant to do very complicated configurations.

On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 14:49:03 (+0100), deloptes wrote:
> well - for static IP you don't need systemd, but it is a relief for the
> dynamic stuff - i.e. wireless and cabled networks that change.
> I find it amazing how it works  not that I say I am starting to love 
systemd :) 
> […]

On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 10:44:54 (-0500), David Wright wrote:
> I looked at what documentation I could find, but carried on using
> wicd-curses, and the arch wiki seems to agree with what I found:
>"systemd-networkd does not have a proper interactive management
> interface neither via command-line nor graphical".
> The interface is what matters when you're travelling with a laptop.

So this is a conversation about systemd-networkd, not NetworkManager,
in a thread that's about systemd, not Gnome or any other desktop/DE.

I think the next message in the subthread led to others' confusion,
so I'm going to add two annotations to the quote (which should clarify
what I understand it to mean), and then repeat the reply I gave before:

On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 20:34:24 (+0100), deloptes wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> 
> > I looked at what documentation I could find, but carried on using
> > wicd-curses, and the arch wiki seems to agree with what I found:
> > 
> > "systemd-networkd does not have a proper interactive management
> > interface neither via command-line nor graphical".
> > 
> > The interface is what matters when you're travelling with a laptop.
> 
> But the purpose of systemd is not to give you an interface. This is provided

 ↑↑↑ Here, I presume the word intended is 
"systemd-networkd".
   ↓↓↓
> by each desktop. Systemd will give you the low level service management -
> AFAIK it works via dbus.

   Here, I presume that the "network manager" that systemd
   ↓is talking to (via dbus) is systemd-networkd,
   ↓and *not* NetworkManager (aka network-manager).
   ↓
   ↓↓↓
> systemd <-> dbus <-> network-manager
>   |
> network-manager-interface
> 
> This is my understanding how it works or should work.
> 

I don't want a desktop. In fact, wicd doesn't even need X, as it can
run quite happily on a VC to configure a new AP.

When I return to somewhere I have been before, wicd (the daemon)
usually connects before I have typed my passphrase to unlock /home.
(That assumes I'm logging in.)

Cheers,
David.

Re: système d'audio/video call

[Raphaël POITEVIN]

"ajh-valmer"  writes:
> https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet

Une liste d’instances ici :
https://wiki.chatons.org/doku.php/la_visio-conference_avec_jitsi
-- 
Raphaël
www.leclavierquibave.fr

Re: système d'audio/video call

[TScholler]

Bonjour,
J'ai déjà et récemment testé les deux outils suivants qui se valent :
1) https://ensemble.scaleway.com
2) https://jitsi.org
Bien @ toi
ThierryS

Le 25/03/2020 à 23:43, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je cherche un  système libre d'audio/video call capable de connecter une
trentaine de personnes sans occuper trop de bande passante et qui soit multi-
plateformes et facile à prendre en main pour les clients.
Ça serait pour faire une télé réunion pour une association.

Gaëtan

Re: système d'audio/video call

[ajh-valmer]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 23:43:47 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> Je cherche un  système libre d'audio/video call capable de connecter 
> une trentaine de personnes sans occuper trop de bande passante 
> et qui soit multi- 
> plateformes et facile à prendre en main pour les clients.
> Ça serait pour faire une télé réunion pour une association :

https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet

système d'audio/video call

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Bonjour,

Je cherche un  système libre d'audio/video call capable de connecter une
trentaine de personnes sans occuper trop de bande passante et qui soit multi-
plateformes et facile à prendre en main pour les clients.
Ça serait pour faire une télé réunion pour une association.

Gaëtan


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Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Le mercredi 25 mars 2020 à 23:31 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> On Wednesday 25 March 2020 22:05:37 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> > > 
> www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028
> 
> > C'est exactement le même fichier que celui des sites du gouvernement.
> > Et je confirme qu'il présente exactement les mêmes problèmes ...
> 
> On Wednesday 25 March 2020 19:40:15 Alain Vaugham wrote :
> > Impression impeccable sur LBP1760.
> 
> Pourtant un fichier PDF est une image,

Un PDF peut éventuellement contenir une image mais en général ce n'est pas le
cas surtout quand ce n'est que du texte ...

> l'imprimante imprime ce qu'elle voit

On n'a pas dit le contraire c'est dans la génération de ce qui est envoyé qu'il
y a un problème.

> 
> Ce ne serait pas un problème de caractères charset "iso-8859-15" ou "UTF-8"
> sur l'ordinateur auquel est relié l'imprimante ?
> Moi je suis en "iso-8859-15".

A voir mais le premier pdf fonctionne parfaitement et pas les suivants.

Gaëtan


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Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[ajh-valmer]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 22:05:37 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> > 
www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028

> C'est exactement le même fichier que celui des sites du gouvernement.
> Et je confirme qu'il présente exactement les mêmes problèmes ...

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 19:40:15 Alain Vaugham wrote :
> Impression impeccable sur LBP1760.

Pourtant un fichier PDF est une image,
l'imprimante imprime ce qu'elle voit.

Ce ne serait pas un problème de caractères charset "iso-8859-15" ou "UTF-8"
sur l'ordinateur auquel est relié l'imprimante ?
Moi je suis en "iso-8859-15".

Re: Problemes amb la captura d'àudio

[Ernest Adrogué]

2020-03-25, 22:09 (+0100); Enric escriu:
> Em diu el següent: 
> 
> # arecord -D hw:0,0 -f cd -t wav fitxer.wav
> Recording WAVE 'fitxer.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100
> Hz, Stereo
> arecord: pcm_read:2145: read error: Error d'Entrada/Sortida 
> 
> Això fa pinta d'error de Hardware, no? 

D'entrada diria que sí, però suposo que també podria ser un bug.  Si
dius que abans et funcionava jo provaria una versió anterior del kernel.

Salut.

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[deloptes]

Linux-Fan wrote:

>> So the conclusion is to take the SATA extention/expansion board.
>> I saw some of them (4 ports) are coming with external power supply. IMO
>> it doesn't matter what "regular" system you take, cause the disk has the
>> same power consumption be it on the "regular" or on the rpi.
> 
> I said "regular" so unspecifically, because for most people, RPI / ARM SBC
> style computers are not "regular". From my experience, it is more
> difficult to install Debian on them and even then less software is
> comptabile -- mostly if you need proprietary stuff, but this can include
> self-written¹...
> 

Well ... the subject here is for Rpi

> Consider my "regular" system: An amd64 PC with a "regular" tower-style
> case: It has a single ATX PSU (only one power connector needed, attaches
> problemlessly to any UPS) and offers space for at least two 3.5" internal
> HDD drives -- all neatly organized, single PSU solution.
> 
> Consider a Raspberry PI: External PSU for the Raspberry PI, two external
> PSU for two external HDDs. It gets easier with the SATA hat, but even then
> you need to somehow power the whole system. A single PSU at the USB input
> for the RPI is likely not to be sufficient etc. Much more thinking about
> electricity and the case to embody all those components. And then you have
> not solved the software side yet.
> 

https://shop.allnetchina.cn/products/dual-sata-hat-open-frame-for-raspberry-pi-4

> Also, never underestimate the OS disk: RPIs boot off a microSD card. I am
> surprised that my Banana Pi M2+EDU still runs on its first card after more
> than two years, so it seems to be possible to get some reliability out of
> the cards. Still, if thinking about a RAID1 of HDDs, to comploete the
> reliability consideration, one would possibly like to boot the OS off a
> RAID1 as well; impossible with RPI AFAICT...
>
Here it boots off tftp and has no card at all. The first RPi has one 512mb
(may be 15y/o) with only the boot stuff there.
 
>> I don't understand how power consumption can raise significantly because
>> of the board? Do you mean that processing the data demands more power on
>> the CPU?
> 
> Processing data on ARM may even be more efficient than on amd64. I meant
> the relation between the board's operating power and the disks'. If you
> calculate 4W for each disk and 4W for the board you already spend two
> times the power on disks than on the board. I know that there are amd64
> systems available with ~15W idle power consumption. Add two disks: ~23W --
> still maybe twice as much as for an equivalent RPI system, but much easier
> to setup and from my personal point of view it is more the kind of
> technolgoy to which I am used (i.e. simplified maintenance).
> 

But those disks have equal power consumption independent if it is on RPi
or "regular" system. The regular consumes more power because of the CPU and
board. I prefer smaller like the RPi with about 10-15W is OK

>> Look here exactly for the purpose:
>>
https://shop.allnetchina.cn/products/dual-sata-hat-open-frame-for-raspberry-pi-4
> 
> They seem to recommend using an ATX PSU for 3.5" HDDs, so it is getting
> more similar to a "regular" PC and finding a case for all this is getting
> more difficult? :)

No because the regular PC would consume more power because of the CPU and
other stuff on it.

Regarding the case - you can usually put anything smaller in something
bigger - there are even boxes for nas that a RPi and few disks will fit.

> 
> ¹) Yes, I was already bitten by this; details available for interested
> parties

Perhaps not the only one - especially when you are not that familiar with
electricity.

Error al compilar programas que requieren SSL en Debian Testing

[qorg11]

Hola,

Estos dias he intentado compilar John The Ripper y Mutt.

Al intentar compilar John The Ripper, me da:

checking additional paths for OpenSSL... none
checking openssl/opensslv.h usability... yes
checking openssl/opensslv.h presence... yes
checking for openssl/opensslv.h... yes
checking for SSL_CTX_new in -lssl... no

Sin embargo, tengo libssl-dev instalado.
Tambien tengo gnutls instalado, pero sigo teniendo el error.

Que puede estar causando esto?

-- 
qorg11

https://qorg11.net

Use Libre software. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

GPG: 343F C20A 4ACA 62B9

Happy Hacking


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Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Le mercredi 25 mars 2020 à 19:20 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> On Wednesday 25 March 2020 17:07:09 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> > Peut-être bien relire le début du fil aiderait à comprendre...
> > Il n'a jamais été évoqué un problème d'affichage mais d'impression ...
> 
> Peut-être indiquer si mon modèle joint s'imprime correctement ?
> (il ne vient pas de gouv.fr)
> aiderait à résoudre le problème.
> 
> > 
> www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028
> 

C'est exactement le même fichier que celui des sites du gouvernement.
Et je confirme qu'il présente exactement les mêmes problèmes ...

Gaëtan


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Re: [pas que testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonsoir,

25 mars 2020 12:53 "Sub0"  a écrit:

> Également, je vois ce sujet est nommé [testing] : avez-vous le même
> problème en stable ?

Même problème en stable avec Zathura.

Même problème en imprimant depuis un téléphone LineageOS 16 (Android 9).

Je suis passé à la version TXT, ça n'a que des avantages :D

Sébastien

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Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Linux-Fan]

deloptes writes:


Linux-Fan wrote:

> From my experience, RAID1 on USB does not work reliably.
> See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg00602.html
>
> For NAS-style use cases, I consider single board computers to have an
> advantage mainly in terms of power consumption. In case one is going to
> run two (or even more?) rotating disks in conjunction with such a board,
> from my point of view, power consumption raises significantly making the
> use of an energy efficient "regular" system a viable alternative to
> consider.

So the conclusion is to take the SATA extention/expansion board.
I saw some of them (4 ports) are coming with external power supply. IMO it
doesn't matter what "regular" system you take, cause the disk has the same
power consumption be it on the "regular" or on the rpi.


I said "regular" so unspecifically, because for most people, RPI / ARM SBC  
style computers are not "regular". From my experience, it is more difficult  
to install Debian on them and even then less software is comptabile -- mostly  
if you need proprietary stuff, but this can include self-written¹...


Consider my "regular" system: An amd64 PC with a "regular" tower-style case:  
It has a single ATX PSU (only one power connector needed, attaches  
problemlessly to any UPS) and offers space for at least two 3.5" internal  
HDD drives -- all neatly organized, single PSU solution.


Consider a Raspberry PI: External PSU for the Raspberry PI, two external PSU  
for two external HDDs. It gets easier with the SATA hat, but even then you  
need to somehow power the whole system. A single PSU at the USB input for  
the RPI is likely not to be sufficient etc. Much more thinking about  
electricity and the case to embody all those components. And then you have  
not solved the software side yet.


Also, never underestimate the OS disk: RPIs boot off a microSD card. I am  
surprised that my Banana Pi M2+EDU still runs on its first card after more  
than two years, so it seems to be possible to get some reliability out of  
the cards. Still, if thinking about a RAID1 of HDDs, to comploete the  
reliability consideration, one would possibly like to boot the OS off a  
RAID1 as well; impossible with RPI AFAICT...



I don't understand how power consumption can raise significantly because of
the board? Do you mean that processing the data demands more power on the
CPU?


Processing data on ARM may even be more efficient than on amd64. I meant the  
relation between the board's operating power and the disks'. If you  
calculate 4W for each disk and 4W for the board you already spend two times  
the power on disks than on the board. I know that there are amd64 systems  
available with ~15W idle power consumption. Add two disks: ~23W -- still  
maybe twice as much as for an equivalent RPI system, but much easier to setup  
and from my personal point of view it is more the kind of technolgoy to  
which I am used (i.e. simplified maintenance).



Look here exactly for the purpose:
https://shop.allnetchina.cn/products/dual-sata-hat-open-frame-for-raspberry-pi-4


They seem to recommend using an ATX PSU for 3.5" HDDs, so it is getting more  
similar to a "regular" PC and finding a case for all this is getting more  
difficult? :)


¹) Yes, I was already bitten by this; details available for interested  
parties


HTH
Linux-Fan


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Re: Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Cyrille BIOT]

Gaëtan Perrier  a écrit :


Dans ce cas tu bloques la mise à jour de l'autre paquet.



Effectivement, il faut geler ces paquets et ça passe
# aptitude search "~ahold"
ih  isc-dhcp-client - client DHCP pour l'obtention  
automatique d
ih  isc-dhcp-common - toutes les pages de manuel  
concernant tous



par contre gros soucis dans la mise  à jour de la libc6 mais c'est un  
autre problème ;)

Re: Buster without systemd?

[Liam O'Toole]

On Tue, 24 Mar, 2020 at 22:04:07 -0500, David Wright wrote:

[...]

> I don't want a desktop. In fact, wicd doesn't even need X, as it can
> run quite happily on a VC to configure a new AP.
> 
> When I return to somewhere I have been before, wicd (the daemon)
> usually connects before I have typed my passphrase to unlock /home.
> (That assumes I'm logging in.)
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 

For what it's worth, Network Manager doesn't need a GUI either. Tools
such as nmcli and nmtui allow you to configure and control network
connections from the command line.

Re: Night light, sunset and sunrise times in Gnome

[Liam O'Toole]

On Tue, 24 Mar, 2020 at 19:05:32 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 23:31 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > Are the dawn and dusk times correct in the Night Light configuration
> > window?
> > 
> There are two options. Manual or Sunset/Sunrise in Night light
> settings. If I choose Sunset/Sunrise, I believe, the system is supposed
> to get the Sunset/Sunrise times from some server online, based on some
> location (I pressume this location is that of my time zone, however, I
> belive one time zone can have different locations with different Sunset
> times). That is why I am asking if there is some way I can know how the
> program is getting its Sunset/Sunrise times. Or if maybe I have to
> activate the Location service for this to work (if that is the case,
> there should be some warning about this).
> 
> I do remember that Redshift used to require that you set a location in
> order to have the automatic sunset/sunrise times working.

[...]

Indeed. But, but when you select Sunset to Sunrise, are the times of
dawn and dusk correct or are they not?

Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[Alain Vaugham]

Le Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:20:23 +0100,
"ajh-valmer"  a écrit :

> Peut-être indiquer si mon modèle joint s'imprime correctement ?
> (il ne vient pas de gouv.fr)
> aiderait à résoudre le problème.

Impression impeccable sur LBP1760.

-- 
Alain Vaugham
Clef GPG : 0xDB77E054673ECFD2

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[deloptes]

Linux-Fan wrote:

> From my experience, RAID1 on USB does not work reliably.
> See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg00602.html
> 
> For NAS-style use cases, I consider single board computers to have an
> advantage mainly in terms of power consumption. In case one is going to
> run two (or even more?) rotating disks in conjunction with such a board,
> from my point of view, power consumption raises significantly making the
> use of an energy efficient "regular" system a viable alternative to
> consider.

So the conclusion is to take the SATA extention/expansion board. 
I saw some of them (4 ports) are coming with external power supply. IMO it
doesn't matter what "regular" system you take, cause the disk has the same
power consumption be it on the "regular" or on the rpi. 

I don't understand how power consumption can raise significantly because of
the board? Do you mean that processing the data demands more power on the
CPU?

Look here exactly for the purpose:
https://shop.allnetchina.cn/products/dual-sata-hat-open-frame-for-raspberry-pi-4

Re: Problemes amb la captura d'àudio

[Ernest Adrogué]

2020-03-25, 17:50 (+0100); Enric escriu:
> ARECORD 
> 
>  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: CX20590 Analog [CX20590 Analog]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 

Diu que tens un dispositiu d'enregistrament a la targeta número zero, i
que el dispositiu és el número zero.

Per enregistrar amb aquest dispositiu pots provar

arecord -D hw:0,0 -f cd -t wav fitxer.wav

Re: Buster without systemd?

[David Wright]

On Wed 25 Mar 2020 at 08:22:33 (+0100), deloptes wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> 
> > I don't want a desktop. In fact, wicd doesn't even need X, as it can
> > run quite happily on a VC to configure a new AP.
> > 
> 
> I did not tell you what you want. You just complained there is no interface.

I didn't *complain* that systemd-networkd hadn't got an interface—I just
said that I needed one, which is why I've carried on using wicd. There
are occasions when time is of the essence in configuring a wireless
connection, which is why I consider it of overriding importance.

> > When I return to somewhere I have been before, wicd (the daemon)
> > usually connects before I have typed my passphrase to unlock /home.
> > (That assumes I'm logging in.)
> 
> I gave up on the Gnome spooks many years ago. But AFAIK wicd is the same or
> similar as network-manager - well the GNome/GTK way of doing things.

Sorry, I don't want a DE, I don't use one, and I don't know anything
about the "Gnome way of doing things", so I'll refrain from commenting
on how network-manager¹ does what it does. I thought we were discussing
systemd-networkd, hence my quotation about it from the arch wiki.

To be fair, I haven't tried to set up systemd-networkd for the
reason given. Sometimes I've left machines as installed, with
ifupdown running the show (not my laptops). Eventually, though,
I usually end of installing wicd regardless, when I find I can't
communicate with it remotely—wicd just seems better at bringing
and keeping the networking up.

¹ I'll opine that its name is unfortunate—rather like inventing a
  currency and calling it "Currency" or "Money".

Cheers,
David.

Re: moyen de partager un écran

[NoSpam]

Epoptes fait cela également

Le 25/03/2020 à 19:34, François LE GAD a écrit :

Le 22/03/2020 à 20:44, Jose CHARTERS a écrit :

Je recherche un outil pour partager une partie de mon écran.


Gitso, client/serveur, multiplateformes.
Ce n'est pas ton écran que tu partageras, mais celui de ton élève.

Son avantage sur les autres programmes de ce type, c'est que ton élève 
peut se connecter d'une façon très simple. Il te suffira de lui 
communiquer ton IP, qu'il saisit dans son Gitso.


De ton côté, c'est un peu plus compliqué, il faudra configurer ta box 
pour rendre ton PC accessible : ouvrir le port 5500 dans le pare-feu 
et le NAT/PAT.


Je ne l'ai testé qu'en réseau local, pas en réseau distant.

Re: moyen de partager un écran

[François LE GAD]

Le 22/03/2020 à 20:44, Jose CHARTERS a écrit :

Je recherche un outil pour partager une partie de mon écran.


Gitso, client/serveur, multiplateformes.
Ce n'est pas ton écran que tu partageras, mais celui de ton élève.

Son avantage sur les autres programmes de ce type, c'est que ton élève 
peut se connecter d'une façon très simple. Il te suffira de lui 
communiquer ton IP, qu'il saisit dans son Gitso.


De ton côté, c'est un peu plus compliqué, il faudra configurer ta box 
pour rendre ton PC accessible : ouvrir le port 5500 dans le pare-feu et 
le NAT/PAT.


Je ne l'ai testé qu'en réseau local, pas en réseau distant.

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Re: Boutons de pavé tactile de laptop ne fonctionnent plus sous Debian Buster

[Jean Bernon]

À tout hasard, sous Gnome il faut regarder dans Paramètres / Périphériques / 
Souris et pavé tactile 

- Mail original - 

> De: "Christian Quentin" 
> À: "ML Debian User French" 
> Envoyé: Mercredi 25 Mars 2020 14:58:31
> Objet: Boutons de pavé tactile de laptop ne fonctionnent plus sous
> Debian Buster

> Bonjour,

> J'ai migré mon PC Dell Latitude XT2 sous Buster et depuis les 2
> boutons de souris intégrés sous le pavé tactile ne fonctionnent
> plus.

> Ce PC est équipé de 2 jeux de boutons :

> * un jeu sous le pavé tactile
> * un jeu entre le pavé tactile et le clavier

> Le premier jeu ne fonctionne plus, l'autre si.

> La panne matérielle est écartée : j'ai démarré le PC avec un autre
> Linux et les 2 jeux de boutons sont fonctionnels.

> De quel côté faut-il fouiller pour comprendre ce qui se passe ?

> Merci à la communauté !
> Christian

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

[rhkramer]

On Monday, March 16, 2020 11:22:20 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > You could get a USB hub that could connect some peripherals --
> > > keyboard, mouse, printer, USB sticks...  but nothing that will
> > > handle video or power connections.
> > > The generic laptop docks rely on high-bandwidth, high-power USB3
> > > ports, and laptop support for alternate video modes sent over
> > > the USB3 ports.
> > 
> > AFAIK they would still work over USB2.  There might be performance
> > issues with the video, but USB2 is definitely sufficient for some video
> > (as evidenced by the USB2 based video cards from DisplayLink).
> 
> Only DisplayLink adapters have that. All the current crop rely
> on USB3 Alternate Video Mode, which carries through DisplayPort
> (not DisplayLink) signalling generated by the laptop.

Thanks for the reply!  I suppose I'll learn more than I want to over the next 
few months as I try to get the Wavlink to work. ;-)  (Not sure if it will need 
any of Display Link, Display Port, or Alternate Video mode, or any other new 
to me technology, but I'm sure I'll find out. ;-))

Fortunately (well, the silver lining in the very dark cloud is that) there 
probably won't be very many meetings (if any) that I'll want to take the 
laptop to.

(As of 8pm tonight, my area is in a mandatory stay at home order (except for 
health or safety reasons or essential jobs).  Should be interesting.)

Stay healthy!
 

Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[ajh-valmer]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 17:07:09 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> Peut-être bien relire le début du fil aiderait à comprendre...
> Il n'a jamais été évoqué un problème d'affichage mais d'impression ...

Peut-être indiquer si mon modèle joint s'imprime correctement ?
(il ne vient pas de gouv.fr)
aiderait à résoudre le problème.

> 
www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[Linux-Fan]

Patrick Scribus writes:


Hello,

two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed
packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and
the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and
the like require too much time and effort to keep in sync. At first I
wrote a little script that uses the power of rsync. This is much better
than no script at all. But I hope for a solution that automates this
like in those talks from 10-15 years ago when they suggest to use coda.
I would love to use coda but it seems like nobody is maintaining it
since quite some time. What happened in the meantime? What do you guys
use for similar tasks?


Hello,

there have been multiple answers already, so forgive me if my post does not
seem to add anything valuable. Still, it bugs me that there are many
different solutions proposed without their advantages and disadvantages
given?

I think that it is an important factor how the systems "online status" (in
sense of power and networking) is to be considered? Are both systems online
simultaneously? Are both systems online at the same time only for
synchonization?

I can think of different solutions depending on what is actually
wanted/neede:

* Cluster File Systems.
  People have already mentioned ceph (which is more an object storage
  and thus slow on small files IIRC?). I can add OCFS (Oracle Cluster
  File System) to the list, although it is not so easy to set up.
  Cluster file systems make sense if both systems are online at the same
  time and should both access a common file system. Often, cluster
  file systems want a "third" machine for doing the actual storage work
  (e.g. an iSCISI target of OCFS). I have also tried out GFS2 in the past,
  but it is a PITA to set up!

* Synchonization Tools.
  There are tools to invoke explicitly to call the synchronization.
  These make sense if both systems are online at the same time only
  for synchronization... if not, one will need to deal with "both changed"
  conflicts on a manual basis. I have no experience with syncthing
  (mentioned in the thread) -- syncthing might have a solution for this...

* Network File Systems.
  If you have a constellation of: system1 and system2 where
  system2 online means system1 is online, too, then you might
  install a "file server" (NFS or similar) on system1 and share
  files through this mechanism. From all approaches proposed, I
  would recommend this as being the least complex in operation
  although this does not mean it is the least complex to setup.

* "Cloud"-like file synchronization.
  These usually require a "third" server, too. And in my experience,
  whenever one is using "synchronized" files for non-trivial data
  processing (e.g. creating and reading a lot of files, storing a
  database, accessing the data with many processes...) most of these
  systems will fail one way or another (up to causing data loss). Yet,
  most people using such systems do not seem to have these issues :)
  These tools are useful in scenarios where there is no guarantee for
  any machine being online the same time as the other although this is
  achieved at the cost of running a "third" machine 24/7...

HTH and YMMV
Linux-Fan


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Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Linux-Fan]

G.W. Haywood writes:


Hi there,

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, deloptes wrote:


Does someone has experience with USB3 disks - may be in raid1 on the Rpi4?

I tried years ago with usb2 disks in raid1 and the results were miserable.


A good point I missed.  I should have said in my previous post that
the USB interface devices that I used on the Pi 4B were both USB2 and
USB3 varieties, and that there doesn't seem to be a difference in the
reliability between the two.  An addendum: the discs themselves were a
selection ranging from 500GB WD and Seagate to 3TB HGST.  I did try a
couple of old 200GB Seagate drives but the Pi4B didn't recognize them
on USB3 interfaces, I don't yet know why.  Rebuilding 3TB filesystems
gets old quickly, obviously I haven't even considered trying to build
a RAID array with this rubbish.

In short, still miserable.


From my experience, RAID1 on USB does not work reliably.
See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg00602.html

For NAS-style use cases, I consider single board computers to have an
advantage mainly in terms of power consumption. In case one is going to run
two (or even more?) rotating disks in conjunction with such a board, from my
point of view, power consumption raises significantly making the use of an
energy efficient "regular" system a viable alternative to consider.

YMMV
Linux-Fan


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Re: ethernet cfg via kernel cmdline (was: Buster without systemd?)

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 25 mar 20, 12:21:49, Felix Miata wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU composed on 2020-03-25 17:45 (UTC+0200):
> 
> > $ cat /proc/cmdline
> > ip=192.168.1.64::192.168.1.1::a64p:eth0:off root=LABEL=a64p rootwait rw 
> > rootflags=noatime
> 
> > The interface is not even up after start and if I bring it up manually 
> > with 'ip' it doesn't have any IPv4 address configured (only IPv6, which 
> > is to be expected here).
> 
> eth0 isn't kernel native any more, is it?

It is on this device (PINE A64+).

> Maybe add net.ifnames=0 and/or change 192.168.1.64 to 192.168.1.64/24?

According to my understanding of the docs it must be an IP, the netmask 
(if necessary) can be specified in the 4th field (already tried that).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Boutons de pavé tactile de laptop ne fonctionnent plus sous Debian Buster

[Christian Quentin]

Bonjour,

J'ai migré mon PC Dell Latitude XT2 sous Buster et depuis les 2 boutons
de souris intégrés sous le pavé tactile ne fonctionnent plus.

Ce PC est équipé de 2 jeux de boutons :
 * un jeu sous le pavé tactile
 * un jeu entre le pavé tactile et le clavier 

Le premier jeu ne fonctionne plus, l'autre si.

La panne matérielle est écartée : j'ai démarré le PC avec un autre
Linux et les 2 jeux de boutons sont fonctionnels.

De quel côté faut-il fouiller pour comprendre ce qui se passe ?

Merci à la communauté !
Christian

Re: Problemes amb la captura d'àudio

[Enric]

Salut, 

gràcies Josep. 

He prova una devian live i una ubuntu, i no em funciona ni el micro, ni
el micro que endollo. Entenc que deu ser problema de la targeta de so
amb la captura. 

# lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 

# lspci -v -s 00:1b.0
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition
Audio Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 34
Memory at f252 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel 

I deixo un tros de la sortida de 

alsa-info 

upload=true=true=
!!
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.64
!! 

!!Script ran on: Wed Mar 25 16:43:03 UTC 2020 

!!Linux Distribution
!!-- 

Debian GNU/Linux 10 \n \l PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" ID=debian HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/;
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support;
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/; 

!!DMI Information
!!--- 

Manufacturer: LENOVO
Product Name: 4291CV3
Product Version: ThinkPad X220
Firmware Version: 8DET56WW (1.26 )
Board Vendor: LENOVO
Board Name: 4291CV3 

!!ACPI Device Status Information
!!--- 

/sys/bus/acpi/devices/ACPI0003:00/status 15
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/LEN0068:00/status 15
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXPOWER:00/status 1
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXVIDEO:01/status 15
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0103:00/status 15
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0A:00/status 31
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:00/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:01/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:02/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:03/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:04/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:05/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:06/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:07/status 9
/sys/bus/acpi/devices/SMO1200:00/status 15 

!!Kernel Information
!!-- 

Kernel release: 5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64
Operating System: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
Processor: unknown
SMP Enabled: Yes 

!!ALSA Version
!! 

Driver version: k5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64
Library version: 1.1.8
Utilities version: 1.1.8 

!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!--- 

snd_hda_intel 

!!Sound Servers on this system
!! 

Pulseaudio:
Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/pulseaudio)
Running - Yes 

!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!- 

0 [PCH ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
HDA Intel PCH at 0xf252 irq 34 

!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!-- 

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 

!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Subsystem ID's
!!--- 

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:1c20 (rev 04)
Subsystem: 17aa:21da 

!!Modprobe options (Sound related)
!! 

snd_pcsp: index=-2
snd_usb_audio: index=-2
snd_atiixp_modem: index=-2
snd_intel8x0m: index=-2
snd_via82xx_modem: index=-2
snd_hda_intel: model=auto 

!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---
--startcollapse-- 

Codec: Conexant CX20590
Address: 0
AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 1)
Vendor Id: 0x14f1506e
Subsystem Id: 0x17aa21da
Revision Id: 0x13 

!!Aplay/Arecord output
!! 

APLAY 

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: CX20590 Analog [CX20590 Analog]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 

ARECORD 

 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: CX20590 Analog [CX20590 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 

!!Amixer output
!!- 

!!---Mixer controls for card 0 [PCH] 

Card hw:0 'PCH'/'HDA Intel PCH at 0xf252 irq 34'
Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20590'
Components : 'HDA:14f1506e,17aa21da,0013
HDA:80862805,80860101,0010'
Controls : 45
Simple ctrls : 14
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Limits: Playback 0 - 74
Mono: Playback 68 [92%] [-6.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: 

Re: ethernet cfg via cmdline (was: Buster without systemd?)

[Felix Miata]

Andrei POPESCU composed on 2020-03-25 17:45 (UTC+0200):

> $ cat /proc/cmdline
> ip=192.168.1.64::192.168.1.1::a64p:eth0:off root=LABEL=a64p rootwait rw 
> rootflags=noatime

> The interface is not even up after start and if I bring it up manually 
> with 'ip' it doesn't have any IPv4 address configured (only IPv6, which 
> is to be expected here).

eth0 isn't kernel native any more, is it? Maybe add net.ifnames=0 and/or change
192.168.1.64 to 192.168.1.64/24?
-- 
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 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Peut-être bien relire le début du fil aiderait à comprendre...
Il n'a jamais été évoqué un problème d'affichage mais d'impression ...

Le 25 mars 2020 16:52:44 GMT+01:00, ajh.val...@free.fr a écrit :
>On Wednesday 25 March 2020 13:06:46 Sub0 wrote:
>> Le 25/03/2020 à 12:36:56 (+0100), ajh-valmer a écrit :
>> > Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :
> 
>www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028
>
>Je l'ai téléchargée, tout s'affiche impec, je le joins.
>(suis sous Buster)

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brièveté.

Re: Buster without systemd?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 24 mar 20, 20:31:17, deloptes wrote:
> Reco wrote:
> 
> > Actually, deloptes is right and you're not.
> > 
> > Kernel's documentation - [1] - describes a way to force a kernel itself
> > to configure a network interface for IPv4, be it static or DHCP, along
> > with the primitive routing table (default gw at most).
> > 
> > Taking IPv6's RA into the account, one does not need anything but the
> > working kernel on the client side to get IPv6 and a primitive routing
> > table.
> >
> [/usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.19/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt.gz
> 
> Thank you Reco,
> you obsoleted my reply.

Ok, I'll bite.

$ cat /proc/cmdline
ip=192.168.1.64::192.168.1.1::a64p:eth0:off root=LABEL=a64p rootwait rw 
rootflags=noatime

The interface is not even up after start and if I bring it up manually 
with 'ip' it doesn't have any IPv4 address configured (only IPv6, which 
is to be expected here).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: pb impression Attestation-Déplacement

[ajh . valmer]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 13:06:46 Sub0 wrote:
> Le 25/03/2020 à 12:36:56 (+0100), ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :
 
www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028

Je l'ai téléchargée, tout s'affiche impec, je le joins.
(suis sous Buster)


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Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[François LE GAD]

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:47, Klaus Becker a écrit :

J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir.


avec Draw ? C'est bien laborieux.


Pas si laborieux que ça, F2.

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Re: Suspensión en Debian 10 xfce

[atencion]

Buenas tardes Marcelo,

Diría revisar primero los registros del sistema y llevar aquí al foro cualquier 
error que salga... en lo que sigue explico una manera de revisar los registros 
mediante el comando journalctl, y espero que eso le ayude algo, auque no soy 
experto:

anotar el minuto exacto en que el sistema habría de suspenderse, y ejecutar 
`journalctl` con parámetros `-S` y `-U` que limitan un intervalo corto en que 
pasó ese minuto. Ejemplo:

digamos que se espera la suspensión a las 07:37, en tal caso ponemos como 
usuario root o con `sudo`:

journalctl -o verbose -S "2020-03-25 07:36:00" -U "2020-03-25 07:38:00" > 
reg_susp

hay que cambiar la fecha / hora en el ejemplo a la que corresponde.

En la salida del comando, buscar `suspend` y ver si sale algun registro, tal 
vez de un error.

Dani

Mar 25, 2020, 11:50 by marcelogiord...@gmail.com:

> Hola amigos.
>
> A pesar de que tengo configurado a que mi máquina se ponga en suspensión a 
> los 10 minutos no lo hace. No hace nada.
>
> Alguna idea?
>

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 25 mar 20, 12:34:48, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> 
> 3.  HTTPS does NOT make the Web secure.  Not even close.  I'm not sure
> that even the banks still try to peddle that fiction any more.

Are you implying banks should not bother and use plain HTTP instead?

> Any
> criminal can have a free certificate from Letsencrypt.  I have some
> for my own use, renewed automatically every three months by certbot,
> although I'm not a criminal.  If you believe that I'm not a criminal
> then I have this box of money in the garage that I'd like to give to
> you, please just send the shipping charge and your postal address.

As far as I understand HTTPS makes eavesdropping significantly more 
difficult than plain HTTP (which is basically plain text). It's probably 
easier to attack one of the endpoints instead (e.g. via malware on the 
client device used to access the service).

Making sure you are actually communicating with the intended entity is a 
challenge, and not only for HTTPS.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 11:07:36 +0200
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> Tools for keeping data in sync are often mistaken for a backup
> solution, which they are not.
> 
> If a file is corrupted, deleted, etc. in one place that will be 
> propagated to all copies.
> 
> Depending on the features provided by the synchronisation tool they 
> could be *a part* of a backup solution.

That's pretty much it. I see backup solutions as a spectrum of tools,
with different tools suitable for different problems.

> 
> See http://taobackup.com for what a complete backup solution should 
> provide.

Excellent.

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Re: Instalar 'hostname'

[Narcis Garcia]

__
I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
El 25/3/20 a les 10:48, Ernest Adrogué ha escrit:
> 2020-03-20, 17:15 (+0100); Narcis Garcia escriu:
>> $ hostname -f
>> hostname: Name or service not known
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> 2. Hi ha algun servei o fitxer del qual depèn aquest error sobre FQDN?
> 
> Diuen [1] que probablement et falta afegir el nom del host a /etc/hosts 
> 
> [1] 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/283550/i-got-error-hostname-name-or-service-not-known-when-checking-ip-of-hostname
> 

Efectivament, el problema tenia relació amb el /etc/hosts però d'una
altra manera:
El gethostname o getdomainname que utilitza aquest programa, llegeix el
fitxer /etc/hosts cercant el «hostname» simple per tal d'obtenir-ne el FQDN.
Aleshores a les instal·lacions concretes on m'havia fallat, el nom que
hi havia a /etc/hostname no es trobava a /etc/hosts
Exemple:
$ cat /etc/hostname
assaig01-joguines
$ cat /etc/hosts
127.0.1.1 assaig01.example.net assaig01
(...)

Re: Suspensión en Debian 10 xfce

[qorg11]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 08:50:56AM -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano wrote:
> Hola amigos.
> 
> A pesar de que tengo configurado a que mi máquina se ponga en suspensión a
> los 10 minutos no lo hace. No hace nada.
> 
> Alguna idea?
> 
Intenta usar xscreensaver:
# apt install xscreensaver

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Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 20:23:38 +1300
Richard Hector  wrote:

> On 25/03/20 5:18 am, Charles Curley wrote:
> > When I realized that nextcloud stores files as binary blobs
> > in an SQL database, I decided that I prefer Samba (or AFS or
> > NFS), where a file is backed by a file.  
> 
> On my Nextcloud server, a file is backed by a file. It's under (in my
> case) /opt/nextcloud/data/richard/files. Yes you have to go digging
> for it, and it's not recommended to modify it directly, but it's
> there.


Well, well, well! Thank you. I found the analogous directory, and a
quick diff confirmed. That's good to know.


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Re: pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Bernard]

Bonjour,

Je n'ai pas ce problème ici, toutefois je l'ai constaté avec certains 
documents téléchargés depuis le site CNN : espaces imprévus entre 
certains caractères du même mot, problèmes d'accentuation lorsqu'il 
s'agissait de documents en langue française, alors que les textes 
s'affichaient correctement à l'écran.


J'ai trouvé la solution en n'imprimant plus directement ces documents 
PDF, mais en les récupérant dans 'gimp' et les imprimant comme images 
(imports page après page en 300dpi)


On 25/03/2020 15:12, Gaëtan Perrier wrote:

Salut,

Moi c'est une imprimante HP Envy 7640.

Gaëtan

Le 25 mars 2020 13:48:19 GMT+01:00, Sub0  a écrit :

Le 25/03/2020 à 13:06:46 (+0100), Sub0 a écrit :

Le 25/03/2020 à 12:36:56 (+0100), ajh-valmer a écrit :

Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :



www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028


On télécharge l'attestation format .PDF (une page),
on la pré-rempli avec GIMP, on l'imprime,
et y a plus qu'à cocher la case idoine + date et heure de sortie.


Tout s’affiche bien dans les visionneuses pdf, mais une fois passé à
l’imprimante, les "e" accentués sont remplacés par des "o" barrés et

les

les "à" disparaissent purement et simplement…

Le document du ministère intègre la police "inter" directement dans

le

pdf, Zingbats et Helvetica sont substituées. Pas de soucis à l’écran,
mais rien à faire pour avoir une impression correcte.


Après pas mal de tests, je ne parviens pas à comprendre d’où provient
le
problème. J’ai réussi à appliquer d’autres polices de substitution pour
Zingbats, Times-Roman et Helvetica : même résultat.

Le problème peut-il se situer du côté de cups ? (excusez ma naïveté
totale sur la question)

Les autres personnes rencontrant ce problème auraient-ils également une
imprimante de marque Brother (une HL-L2370DN pour ma part) ?

Re: Re : Buster Freeze aleatoire

[Hugues MORIN]

Salut


Merci Shayne

J'ai desinstalle/purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
La suite concerne seulement les CG nvidia (si j'ai bien compris) et
l'installation du bon driver pour ces cartes

J'en ai profite pour mettre a jour firmware-amd-graphics,
firmware-linux-nonfree et firmware-misc-nonfree vers la version
20190717-2bpo10+1

Au niveau du driver, il semble que le xserver-xorg-video-radeon Version
1:19.0.1-1 soit celui qui est approprie pour cette carte (AMD/ATI] RV630
PRO [Radeon HD 2600 PRO])

@Nicolas : Je ne sais pas vraiment a quoi sert ce fichier. Il semble etre
juste la pour confirmer la presence/l'activiter d'un user et valider
certaine operation en son nom.
J'ai eu exactement la meme chose, la disparition du fichier, et la machine
fonctionnait parfaitement.
Le seul cas ou j'ai eu le freeze et le log volumineux , c'est quand ce
fichier avait pour proprietaire root.

Voila le petit script qui m'a servi de patch a ce bug. A mettre en cron
toutes les 5mn:

#!/bin/bash

FILENAME=/run/user/1000/dconf/user

if [ -e $FILENAME ]
then
if [ $(stat -c %G:%U $FILENAME) != "hugues:hugues" ]
then
#echo $(stat -c %G:%U $FILENAME)
chown hugues:hugues $FILENAME
#echo $(stat -c %G:%U $FILENAME)
fi
fi

A adapter en fonction de ton user ou si tu as plusieurs user sur ta machine

Cordialement
Hugues

Le mar. 24 mars 2020 à 21:41, Shayne  a écrit :

> tu dois desinstaller driver nouveau est mettre le driver approrie.
>
>
> https://www.debian-fr.org/t/probleme-de-freeze-graphique-et-haute-consommation-du-cpu/81447/15
> On 2020-03-24 2:41 p.m., Hugues MORIN wrote:
>
> Re
>
> Ce bug est aleatoire ou est engendre par je ne sais quoi.
>
> Parfois tout va bien comme maintenant et puis parfois tu peux avoir
> -rw--- 1 root root 2 mars  24 17:32 /run/user/1000/dconf/user
>
> et la ... c'est le bug, beaucoup d'erreur ce stocke dans les log, la
> machine ralenti puis finalement freeze completement
>
>
> Voilou
> Bonne soiree
> Hugues
>
> Le mar. 24 mars 2020 à 19:29,  a écrit :
>
>> Le 24/03/2020 18:36:38, Hugues MORIN a écrit :
>>
>> > Nicolas.Patrois et JeanBernon, si votre freeze est precede d'un
>> > ralentissement et que les log on un volume anormalement eleve,
>> > regardez du
>> > cote des droits et du proprietaire de /run/user/(uid de votre user,
>> > 1000 en general)/dconf/user. Ce fichier doit avoir comme proprietaire
>> votre
>> > user.
>>
>> > ll /run/user/1000/dconf/user
>> -rw--- 1 nicolas nicolas 2 mars  24 17:32 /run/user/1000/dconf/user
>>
>> Chez moi tout a l’air d’aller bien (j’utilise Sid).
>>
>> nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
>> --
>> RÉALISME
>>
>> M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des
>> humains ? Un cerveau plus gros ?
>> P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...
>>
>>

Re : Re : Re : Buster Freeze aleatoire

[nicolas . patrois]

Le 25/03/2020 08:31:19, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit :

> Tiens, le fichier a disparu cette nuit.
> Il est censé contenir quoi ?

J’ai créé le fichier (vide) avec touch ce matin.
Et cet après-midi, quelqu’un a écrit dedans.
Il contient deux caractères nuls.

nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
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M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des humains ? 
Un cerveau plus gros ?
P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...

Re: pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Salut,

Moi c'est une imprimante HP Envy 7640.

Gaëtan

Le 25 mars 2020 13:48:19 GMT+01:00, Sub0  a écrit :
>Le 25/03/2020 à 13:06:46 (+0100), Sub0 a écrit :
>> Le 25/03/2020 à 12:36:56 (+0100), ajh-valmer a écrit :
>> > Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :
>> > 
>> >
>www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028
>> > 
>> > On télécharge l'attestation format .PDF (une page),
>> > on la pré-rempli avec GIMP, on l'imprime,
>> > et y a plus qu'à cocher la case idoine + date et heure de sortie.
>> 
>> Tout s’affiche bien dans les visionneuses pdf, mais une fois passé à
>> l’imprimante, les "e" accentués sont remplacés par des "o" barrés et
>les
>> les "à" disparaissent purement et simplement…
>> 
>> Le document du ministère intègre la police "inter" directement dans
>le
>> pdf, Zingbats et Helvetica sont substituées. Pas de soucis à l’écran,
>> mais rien à faire pour avoir une impression correcte.
>
>Après pas mal de tests, je ne parviens pas à comprendre d’où provient
>le
>problème. J’ai réussi à appliquer d’autres polices de substitution pour
>Zingbats, Times-Roman et Helvetica : même résultat.
>
>Le problème peut-il se situer du côté de cups ? (excusez ma naïveté
>totale sur la question)
>
>Les autres personnes rencontrant ce problème auraient-ils également une
>imprimante de marque Brother (une HL-L2370DN pour ma part) ?

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[Basile Starynkevitch]

Bonjour à tous,


confiné et développeur, j'ai commencé 
https://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid avec un ami Indien.




Votre aide active (principalement sous forme de git commit-s) est bienvenue.

Oui, je sais qu'il y a un potentiel souci avec la RGPD.

Mais le Coronavirus rend malade (et j'ai probablement une forme attenuée 
de cette maladie: fièvre et toux)


Librement

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Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 08:34:48 G.W. Haywood wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > setting [a VPN] up looks rather daunting.
>
> It isn't so difficult when you get the hang of it.  If you like I can
> set one up for you by sending two files and some simple instructions.
> Here's the configuration for an openvpn server at my place of work,
> it's a little more complex than strictly necessary but still as you
> see fairly simple.  It uses the vanilla Debian install of OpenVPN, and
> once enabled in /etc/default/openvpn it starts automatically at boot
> (and just keeps on giving:).  I've stripped all the comments:
>
> 8<
>-- dev tun
> port 1197
> proto tcp-server
> ifconfig 10.3.3.1 10.3.3.2
> secret /etc/openvpn/private_keys/key.farm1
> keepalive 10 60
> ping-timer-rem
> persist-tun
> persist-key
> user nobody
> group nogroup
> daemon
> comp-lzo
> log-append /var/log/openvpn/farm1.log
> 8<
>--
msg marked.
>
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Vincent Lammens wrote:
> > ... plus, VPN's are a waste of money, HTTPS makes the web secure
> > anyway, so no need to waste money on a VPN.
>
> This statement is false in just about every way possible.  Perhaps you
> have not had the need to use VPNs for their primary purpose, which is
> to communicate Privately over a public open channel like the Internet.
> A VPN offers other benefits too, such as convenience, and transparent
> data compression.
>
> 1.  For example, I use VPNs to communicate over the public Internet -
> Privately (that's what the 'P' in VPN stands for) - between my own
> sites and customers' sites.  The communications are largely in the
> form of measurements, instrumentation to monitor the reliability of
> computers and equipment installed in offices, businesses and farms.
> This is not related to (and does not use) HTTP, therefore HTTPS can
> have nothing to offer.  In addition, given proper routing I can ssh
> into a customer's computer over a VPN using the Private IP address of
> that computer exactly as if the computer is on the LAN here, which is
> very convenient even if the doubled encryption is perhaps a little
> wasteful of CPU cycles.  I can ping the IP to see if the box is alive
> for example, and all sorts of other things that you can do on a LAN.
> In addition to being encrypted, all communications between the sites
> are transparently compressed.
>
> 2.  The Private tunnels are created by OpenVPN.  OpenVPN is free, and
> after using it for nearly two decades I also know it's very reliable.
>
> 3.  HTTPS does NOT make the Web secure.  Not even close.
I've never believed was anything but to scare the dumber criminal away.

> I'm not sure 
> that even the banks still try to peddle that fiction any more.

Mine seems to.

> Any 
> criminal can have a free certificate from Letsencrypt.  I have some
> for my own use, renewed automatically every three months by certbot,
> although I'm not a criminal.  If you believe that I'm not a criminal
> then I have this box of money in the garage that I'd like to give to
> you, please just send the shipping charge and your postal address.

Thanks G.W. Haywood. More q's when its time to install of course.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[G.W. Haywood]

Hi there,

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:


setting [a VPN] up looks rather daunting.


It isn't so difficult when you get the hang of it.  If you like I can
set one up for you by sending two files and some simple instructions.
Here's the configuration for an openvpn server at my place of work,
it's a little more complex than strictly necessary but still as you
see fairly simple.  It uses the vanilla Debian install of OpenVPN, and
once enabled in /etc/default/openvpn it starts automatically at boot
(and just keeps on giving:).  I've stripped all the comments:

8<--
dev tun
port 1197
proto tcp-server
ifconfig 10.3.3.1 10.3.3.2
secret /etc/openvpn/private_keys/key.farm1
keepalive 10 60
ping-timer-rem
persist-tun
persist-key
user nobody
group nogroup
daemon
comp-lzo
log-append /var/log/openvpn/farm1.log
8<--


On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Vincent Lammens wrote:


... plus, VPN's are a waste of money, HTTPS makes the web secure
anyway, so no need to waste money on a VPN.


This statement is false in just about every way possible.  Perhaps you
have not had the need to use VPNs for their primary purpose, which is
to communicate Privately over a public open channel like the Internet.
A VPN offers other benefits too, such as convenience, and transparent
data compression.

1.  For example, I use VPNs to communicate over the public Internet -
Privately (that's what the 'P' in VPN stands for) - between my own
sites and customers' sites.  The communications are largely in the
form of measurements, instrumentation to monitor the reliability of
computers and equipment installed in offices, businesses and farms.
This is not related to (and does not use) HTTP, therefore HTTPS can
have nothing to offer.  In addition, given proper routing I can ssh
into a customer's computer over a VPN using the Private IP address of
that computer exactly as if the computer is on the LAN here, which is
very convenient even if the doubled encryption is perhaps a little
wasteful of CPU cycles.  I can ping the IP to see if the box is alive
for example, and all sorts of other things that you can do on a LAN.
In addition to being encrypted, all communications between the sites
are transparently compressed.

2.  The Private tunnels are created by OpenVPN.  OpenVPN is free, and
after using it for nearly two decades I also know it's very reliable.

3.  HTTPS does NOT make the Web secure.  Not even close.  I'm not sure
that even the banks still try to peddle that fiction any more.  Any
criminal can have a free certificate from Letsencrypt.  I have some
for my own use, renewed automatically every three months by certbot,
although I'm not a criminal.  If you believe that I'm not a criminal
then I have this box of money in the garage that I'd like to give to
you, please just send the shipping charge and your postal address.

--

73,
Ged.

Re: Re : Re : Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Dans ce cas tu bloques la mise à jour de l'autre paquet.

Gaëtan

Le 25 mars 2020 13:13:31 GMT+01:00, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit :
>Le 25/03/2020 12:52:37, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
>
>> Je vais sûrement dire une bêtise, mais pourquoi vouloir bloquer une
>> version d'un paquet qui n'est pas installé ?
>
>Il est imposé par la mise à jour d’un autre paquet.
>
>nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
>-- 
>RÉALISME
>
>M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des
>humains ? Un cerveau plus gros ?
>P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...

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Re: pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Sub0]

Le 25/03/2020 à 13:06:46 (+0100), Sub0 a écrit :
> Le 25/03/2020 à 12:36:56 (+0100), ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :
> > 
> > www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028
> > 
> > On télécharge l'attestation format .PDF (une page),
> > on la pré-rempli avec GIMP, on l'imprime,
> > et y a plus qu'à cocher la case idoine + date et heure de sortie.
> 
> Tout s’affiche bien dans les visionneuses pdf, mais une fois passé à
> l’imprimante, les "e" accentués sont remplacés par des "o" barrés et les
> les "à" disparaissent purement et simplement…
> 
> Le document du ministère intègre la police "inter" directement dans le
> pdf, Zingbats et Helvetica sont substituées. Pas de soucis à l’écran,
> mais rien à faire pour avoir une impression correcte.

Après pas mal de tests, je ne parviens pas à comprendre d’où provient le
problème. J’ai réussi à appliquer d’autres polices de substitution pour
Zingbats, Times-Roman et Helvetica : même résultat.

Le problème peut-il se situer du côté de cups ? (excusez ma naïveté
totale sur la question)

Les autres personnes rencontrant ce problème auraient-ils également une
imprimante de marque Brother (une HL-L2370DN pour ma part) ?

Re : Re : Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[nicolas . patrois]

Le 25/03/2020 12:52:37, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :

> Je vais sûrement dire une bêtise, mais pourquoi vouloir bloquer une
> version d'un paquet qui n'est pas installé ?

Il est imposé par la mise à jour d’un autre paquet.

nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
-- 
RÉALISME

M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des humains ? 
Un cerveau plus gros ?
P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...

Re: pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Sub0]

Le 25/03/2020 à 12:36:56 (+0100), ajh-valmer a écrit :
> Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :
> 
> www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028
> 
> On télécharge l'attestation format .PDF (une page),
> on la pré-rempli avec GIMP, on l'imprime,
> et y a plus qu'à cocher la case idoine + date et heure de sortie.

Tout s’affiche bien dans les visionneuses pdf, mais une fois passé à
l’imprimante, les "e" accentués sont remplacés par des "o" barrés et les
les "à" disparaissent purement et simplement…

Le document du ministère intègre la police "inter" directement dans le
pdf, Zingbats et Helvetica sont substituées. Pas de soucis à l’écran,
mais rien à faire pour avoir une impression correcte.

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 08:33:17AM +0100, Vincent Lammens wrote:
> Op 2020-03-25 om 8:23 schreef deloptes:
> > I was wondering if you have considered using VPN?
> > 
> 
> How would a VPN help him? A VPS might, but that is a server in the
> cloud, which are quite expensive sometimes.

I read it as VPS too.  You can get a low-end VPS quite cheaply ($2 to $10
per month, I believe), and moving your hosted content offsite can be a
major relief for your local bandwidth.

A quick Google search for "cheap vps" right now confirms the $2/month
low end price.  The one I got several years back is $6 a month.

Re: Buster without systemd?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 05:42:12 Kamil Jońca wrote:

> deloptes  writes:
> > Kamil Jońca wrote:
> >>> Kamil Jońca wrote:
>  Forget it. Show me how call script in reaction to DHPC events:
>  BOUND RENEW REBIND TIMEOUT
> >>>
> >>> what for?
> >>
> >> To convince me that systemd has enough functionality.
> >
> > I don't have to do anything.
>
> Of course. And I don't have to take you seriously.
>
> KJ

You probably should, he is one of the more helpfull people about. But you 
need to lose that chip on your shoulder before that will work well now.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: Let's encrypt rate limits

[mj]

Hoi,

Heb t ook wel eens gehad, en 'oefen' daarom nu vrij strak altijd eerst 
op hun staging evironment.


De client die ik tegenwoordig gebruik (acme.sh in combi met acme-dns, 
https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns) maakt dat ook enorm gemakkelijk 
allemaal.


Heb t sindsdien nooit meer gehad.

En ik weet't... hier heb je op dit moment niks aan. :-|

Gezondheid gewenst aan allen hier.

MJ

On 3/25/20 12:42 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Hoi,

Ik probeer Jitsi-meet te installeren, echter de configuratie zit daar zo
in elkaar dat het ophalen van het SSL-certificaat mislukte. En omdat ik
het een paar keer probeerde heb ik nu een rate-limit:
---
An unexpected error occurred:
There were too many requests of a given type :: Error creating new order
:: too many failed authorizations recently: see
https://letsencrypt.org/docs/rate-limits/
---

Eerder loste ik dat op door een iets ander certificaat aan te vragen
(extra naam). Maar dat lijkt niet meer te werken.

Moet je nu echt een week wachten voordat zoiets voorbij is?

Ik red me hier nu best wel uit met b.v. een ander IP, maar het lijkt me
dat zoiets in een ander geval heel grote problemen kan geven. Wat is
jullie ervaring?

Groeten,
Paul

Re: Buster without systemd?

[The Wanderer]

On 2020-03-25 at 07:02, deloptes wrote:


> And BTW I can not find anything like networkd
> 
> $ apt-cache search systemd | grep network
> networkd-dispatcher - Dispatcher service for systemd-networkd connection
> status changes

$ apt-file search system$ apt-file search systemd | grep networkd$
systemd: /lib/systemd/systemd-networkd

> or resolved
> 
> $ apt-cache search systemd | grep resolv
> openvpn-systemd-resolved - integrates OpenVPN with systemd-resolved
> resolvconf-admin - setuid helper program for setting up the local DNS
> libnss-mymachines - nss module to resolve hostnames for local container
> instances
> libnss-resolve - nss module to resolve names via systemd-resolved

$ apt-file search systemd | grep resolved$
openvpn-systemd-resolved: /etc/openvpn/update-systemd-resolved
systemd: /lib/systemd/systemd-resolved

Both are in the main systemd package - so anyone who has systemd
installed (via Debian) at all, has them installed.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Re : Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Je vais sûrement dire une bêtise, mais pourquoi vouloir bloquer une version 
d'un paquet qui n'est pas installé ?

Le 25 mars 2020 12:33:03 GMT+01:00, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit :
>Le 25/03/2020 11:09:41, François LE GAD a écrit :
>
>> Bonjour,
>> aptitude forbid-version [paquet]
>> Tu peux alors mettre le reste à jour avec aptitude. La mise à jour de
>
>> [paquet] est ignorée jusqu'à la publication d'une autre version.
>
>Merci, je ne connaissais pas.
>Manque de bol, le paquet n’est pas installé donc ça ne marche pas.
># aptitude forbid-version libdns-export1110
>Le paquet libdns-export1110 n'est pas installé, l'interdiction de mise
>à jour n'est pas possible.
>
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Suspensión en Debian 10 xfce

[Marcelo Eduardo Giordano]

Hola amigos.

A pesar de que tengo configurado a que mi máquina se ponga en suspensión 
a los 10 minutos no lo hace. No hace nada.


Alguna idea?

Re: Let's encrypt rate limits

[Roland Clobus]

Hallo Paul,

On 25/03/2020 12:42, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Ik probeer Jitsi-meet te installeren, echter de configuratie zit daar zo
> in elkaar dat het ophalen van het SSL-certificaat mislukte. En omdat ik
> het een paar keer probeerde heb ik nu een rate-limit:
> ---
> An unexpected error occurred:
> There were too many requests of a given type :: Error creating new order
> :: too many failed authorizations recently: see
> https://letsencrypt.org/docs/rate-limits/
> ---

Kun je de staging environment gebruiken?
https://letsencrypt.org/docs/staging-environment/
Deze heeft veel hogere limieten.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Roland Clobus



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Let's encrypt rate limits

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hoi,

Ik probeer Jitsi-meet te installeren, echter de configuratie zit daar zo
in elkaar dat het ophalen van het SSL-certificaat mislukte. En omdat ik
het een paar keer probeerde heb ik nu een rate-limit:
---
An unexpected error occurred:
There were too many requests of a given type :: Error creating new order
:: too many failed authorizations recently: see
https://letsencrypt.org/docs/rate-limits/
---

Eerder loste ik dat op door een iets ander certificaat aan te vragen
(extra naam). Maar dat lijkt niet meer te werken.

Moet je nu echt een week wachten voordat zoiets voorbij is?

Ik red me hier nu best wel uit met b.v. een ander IP, maar het lijkt me
dat zoiets in een ander geval heel grote problemen kan geven. Wat is
jullie ervaring?

Groeten,
Paul



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Re: Buster without systemd?

[Ansgar]

deloptes writes:
> but I do not have systemd-networkd or -resolved installed

There are no separate packages for systemd-networkd and -resolved;
they are shipped as part of the systemd package, but are not enabled
by default.

You have enable and configure them for them to do anything.

Ansgar

Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Sub0]

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:47:54 (+0100), Klaus Becker a écrit :
> Le 25/03/2020 à 11:13, François LE GAD a écrit :
> > Le 22/03/2020 à 19:41, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> 
> Salut,
> 
> > > > J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir.
> 
> avec Draw ? C'est bien laborieux.
> 
> Klaus
> 
> 
> > > > Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer.
> > > > Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril.
> > > > 
> > > Atril ne permet pas de remplir le pdf directement ?
> > 
> > Non.
> > 

Bonjour,

après m’être cassé la tête pendant des heures sur cette attestation de
déplacement, je me rends compte que je ne suis pas le seul à rencontrer
le problème. 

N’utilisant debian qu’en serveur, sous arch j’ai le même problème :

- je n’ai pas de soucis avec le lecteur pdf intégré à Firefox. Seul
  soucis : il semble que ff utilise une police de substitution qui est
  assez grasse (pas bon pour l’état du toner !). Mais ça sauve

- j’ai fini par avoir de bons résultats en téléchargeant le .doc sur le
  site gouvernement.fr, en changeant la police pour une plus économique
  en encre, et en exportant en PDF après l’avoir pré-remplie.

Une question du coup : est-ce bien l’utilisation de Helvetica qui
pose problème ? 

Je vois que evince remplace 

- helvetica par nimbusSans-Regular
- ZapfDingbats par D05L

Or, helvetica est bien installée sur mon système. Ou est-ce ZapfDingbats
qui est problématique (j’aurais tendance à penser qu’elle est utilisée
pour les cases) ?

comment peut-on définir les polices de remplacement ? 

Pourquoi est-ce que evince/zathura affichent correctement le document,
mais ne passe pas les fonts à cups ?

Également, je vois ce sujet est nommé [testing] : avez-vous le même
problème en stable ?

Comment un gouvernement d’un grand État contemporain peut-il produire
des documents aussi pourris ? (vous avez 4 heures ^^) 

Merci si certains ont des éclairages, ça commence franchement à m’agacer
cette histoire.

Re: Night light, sunset and sunrise times in Gnome

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 07:37:04 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thus, an inaccuracy of ~17 (16 2/3) miles in your east/west location means
> an inaccuracy of 1 minute in time.

Oh, and if you're not familiar with things like twilight and false dawn, you 
should look into those

Re: pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[ajh-valmer]

Je ne comprends pas tous ces mails sur le sujet :

www.lesnumeriques.com/telecharger/attestation-de-deplacement-derogatoire-35028

On télécharge l'attestation format .PDF (une page),
on la pré-rempli avec GIMP, on l'imprime,
et y a plus qu'à cocher la case idoine + date et heure de sortie.

Re: Night light, sunset and sunrise times in Gnome

[rhkramer]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:43:31 PM David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 19:05:32 (-0500), Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 23:31 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > I do remember that Redshift used to require that you set a location in
> > order to have the automatic sunset/sunrise times working.
> > 
> > > I have found that Night Light is activated very gradually. You won't
> > > see
> > > an immediate and abrupt change at the relevant times.
> > 
> > I am aware of the gradual change. The issue is that the change is
> > starting to happen a bit (about an hour) later than it should.

IIUC, the program under discussion tries to predict the exact time of sunrise 
and sunset in your current location?

Just to amplify the importance of location (I'm sure most people on this list 
already know this), a time zone is about 1000 miles wide (east / west) at the 
equator and maybe up to even 50 degrees latitude (north or south), and that 
represents 60 minutes of time (and about 15 degrees of rotation of the earth).

Thus, an inaccuracy of ~17 (16 2/3) miles in your east/west location means an 
inaccuracy of 1 minute in time.

Re: Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Cyrille BIOT]

Oui et le hold n'est pas fonctionnel, donc retour cas départ ;)



nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit :


# aptitude forbid-version libdns-export1110
Le paquet libdns-export1110 n'est pas installé, l'interdiction de  
mise à jour n'est pas possible.

Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Klaus Becker]

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:50, Michel a écrit :

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:20, François LE GAD a écrit :

Le 22/03/2020 à 19:41, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :

J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir.
Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer.
Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril.


Atril ne permet pas de remplir le pdf directement ?


Non.



Si, je t'assure, pour moi version 1.16.1.



Je viens d'installer Atril 1.20 sous unstable pour voir à quoi ça 
ressemble. Je ne trouve pas comment utiliser la barre d'outils et 
comment éditer un pdf.


Klaus

Re : Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[nicolas . patrois]

Le 25/03/2020 11:09:41, François LE GAD a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> aptitude forbid-version [paquet]
> Tu peux alors mettre le reste à jour avec aptitude. La mise à jour de 
> [paquet] est ignorée jusqu'à la publication d'une autre version.

Merci, je ne connaissais pas.
Manque de bol, le paquet n’est pas installé donc ça ne marche pas.
# aptitude forbid-version libdns-export1110
Le paquet libdns-export1110 n'est pas installé, l'interdiction de mise à jour 
n'est pas possible.

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Re: Buster without systemd?

[deloptes]

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> As far as I can tell network manager is *not* using systemd-networkd in
> the background (it doesn't depend on systemd).

No, it doesn't but both of them use dbus and obviously can talk to each
other there.

So the advantage is when systemd does something network manager can react
and vice versa.

but I do not have systemd-networkd or -resolved installed

$ dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii  libpam-systemd:amd64241-7~deb10u3   
 
amd64system and service manager - PAM module
ii  libsystemd0:amd64   241-7~deb10u3   
 
amd64systemd utility library
ii  systemd 241-7~deb10u3   
 
amd64system and service manager
ii  systemd-sysv:i386   241-7~deb10u3   
 
i386 system and service manager - SysV links

I was going to figure out why systemd-sysv:i386 is selected over
systemd-sysv:amd64, but couldn't allocate time and motivation so far.

And BTW I can not find anything like networkd

$ apt-cache search systemd | grep network
networkd-dispatcher - Dispatcher service for systemd-networkd connection
status changes

or resolved

$ apt-cache search systemd | grep resolv
openvpn-systemd-resolved - integrates OpenVPN with systemd-resolved
resolvconf-admin - setuid helper program for setting up the local DNS
libnss-mymachines - nss module to resolve hostnames for local container
instances
libnss-resolve - nss module to resolve names via systemd-resolved

I have no idea what people are complaining of here. Shouldn't I stay at
home, I would not even read or write this ... pure coincidence.

Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Michel]

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:20, François LE GAD a écrit :
> Le 22/03/2020 à 19:41, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
>>> J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir.
>>> Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer.
>>> Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril.
>>>
>> Atril ne permet pas de remplir le pdf directement ?
> 
> Non.
> 

Si, je t'assure, pour moi version 1.16.1.

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 25 March 2020 03:23:50 deloptes wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Whereas I installed the 16 inch gun version of bot killers,
> > iptables.  It has taken 65 lines of DROP's in the form of
> > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24 to control the bots but I seem to be doing that
> > well now, and my net bandwidth has dropped like a rock, was peaking
> > at >100g a month but now theres room for me a get a packet in
> > edgewise if someone wants a ready built preempt-rt kernel and ready
> > to configure for their hardware but bleeding edge LinuxCNC for their
> > rpi4. But while I am adding rules, they'll move the bots to get away
> > from people like me. They don't want to understand that if they want
> > to mirror my site, they can pay me for the bandwidth used. Index it
> > yes, mirror it daily, no.
> >
> > Now its about tied with incoming email. And the folks who want my
> > stuff can get it at the upload rate I'm paying for. Nominally
> > 300k/second.
>
> I was wondering if you have considered using VPN?

I have but setting it up looks rather daunting.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[deloptes]

Dan Purgert wrote:

> I don't think he meant to imply using external-to-you "cloud" providers
> (gdrive, dropbox), but rather creating his own personal "cloud".

exactly - thank you

Re: Night light, sunset and sunrise times in Gnome

[Curt]

On 2020-03-24, Anil Felipe Duggirala  wrote:
> hello,
> I am running Gnome in Debian Buster, which comes with the Night Light
> feature. I have set up night light in the Sunset/Sunrise setting. I
> have also correcly set my timezone (location?). My issue is, sunset is

You might check if

 /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/color/night-light-last-coordinates

are accurate (latitude/longitude).

After reading for some minutes I remain uncertain whether it is
necessary to toggle on Location Services in Gnome's Privacy Settings for
the feature to work correctly.

> coming and Night Light is gettin activated way after this time. I would
> like to ask how I can know where the program is getting my location's
> sunset time from?  Is there a way for me to check this? 
> thank you,
>
>


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Re: Buster without systemd?

[deloptes]

Kamil Jońca wrote:

> Of course. And I don't have to take you seriously.

Of course. This is your choice, but please stop complaining of self induced
problems and most of all stop blaming others, _please_!

and thank you in advance. We've had here enough of this systemd topic.

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[Dan Purgert]

On Mar 25, 2020, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:50:00 +0100
> deloptes  wrote:
> 
> > Patrick Scribus wrote:
> > 
> > > What do you guys
> > > use for similar tasks?  
> > 
> > I guess from share to a cloud.
> > 
> > I spent a lot of time in phone sync via bluetooth (calendar,
> > contacts, todos and notes).
> > 
> > The PC does not have any data on it - there is a share. From outside
> > - VPN to the share.
> > 
> > Keep your data at a central place. If you must edit documents from
> > different devices - perhaps a kind of cloud solution is preferable.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Until your phone line goes down for a week, as mine did a few years
> ago. I had a mobile dongle for simple things, but it was unreliable and
> slow, and completely unusable for any kind of backup of more than a MB
> or so, or for actually working through.

I don't think he meant to imply using external-to-you "cloud" providers
(gdrive, dropbox), but rather creating his own personal "cloud". 

Be it something pretty -- Nextcloud, for example -- or something
utilitarian (a central NFS or SSHFS server holding all the data).
> 
> Or you find yourself occasionally working (as I do now) in a 'managed'
> office, which provides a (slow again) access to a 192.168.x.0/24 with
> a single outside world connection shared with the rest of the building.
> My client there does not push enough through the net to be worth paying
> for his own separate connection. And no, I don't have these problems
> often enough for it to be worth me paying for a fast mobile connection.

I've used Nextcloud in these situations, it's actually pretty good with
slower connections.  Since everything is a (machine-)local copy, in
addition to being stored centrally; something I work on "here(tm)" gets
updated "everywhere" shortly after I've saved the document.

I've only really ever run into problems with it when there was a
godawful slow connection with a machine that'd been offline for 2 weeks
while I was on vacation (and I forgot to spin it up at home before
heading out)

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Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[Klaus Becker]

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:13, François LE GAD a écrit :

Le 22/03/2020 à 19:41, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :


Salut,


J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir.


avec Draw ? C'est bien laborieux.

Klaus



Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer.
Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril.


Atril ne permet pas de remplir le pdf directement ?


Non.

Re: Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Cyrille BIOT]

Oups désolé j'avais pas vu la réponse

aptitude forbid-version

Désolé, je ne connaissais pas cette option

merci en tout cas

Re: Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Cyrille BIOT]

Même soucis

aptitude hold libdns-export1110

ne fait rien, le paquet n'est pas gelé

aptitude search "~ahold"
ihA libglx-mesa0- free implementation of the  
OpenGL API -- G
ThA libreoffice-common  - suite de productivité  
bureautique -- fichi



Il n'apparait pas dans cette liste

Donc j'attends pour l'instant la résolution de ce bug...





nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit :


Bonjour,

J’ai ce bogue de gravité critical sur libdns-export1110 (→  
1:9.11.17+dfsg-4) 

 b1 - #954736 - Upgrade to 9.16.1-1 causes dhcpd to die with SIGABRT
Quand je réponds non, il arrête tout. J’aimerais juste que les mises  
à jour se fassent mais que ce paquet (et les paquets qui dépendent  
de lui) ne le soit pas.
Je suis obligé de mettre à jour avec aptitude d’autres paquets mais  
c’est pénible.
Je sais qu’on peut punaiser un paquet mais ça bloque toute mise à  
jour, pas la mise à jour vers une version précise (ou j’ai raté un  
truc).
Quelqu’un sait comment bloquer juste une version d’un paquet dans  
une mise à jour ?


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Re: Problemes amb la captura d'àudio

[Josep Lladonosa]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 08:59, Enric  wrote:

> Salut,
>
> tinc una debian 10.3
> en un portàtil thinkpad X220 i no em funciona la captura d'àudio.
> Tinc un micro intern que m'ha funcionat durant força temps i ara m'ha
> deixat de funcionar. El problema és que no recordo des de quan ni què hi
> vaig fer que li afectés.
>
> Un altre tema és que només té una entrada d'àudio, per micro i cascos
> simultàniament, i sembla que ho detecta bé, perquè quan hi endollo uns
> cascos amb micro integrat el pavucontrol detecta que tinc un micro
> connectat.
>
> He provat el alsamixer, el pavucontrol i el volum del lxde i no he trobat
> que tingui res amb mute.
> De fet, el pavucontrol quan surt el volum del micro, en altres màquines
> veus les ratlletes que es mouen a mesura que parles, i pots clicar a mute i
> es paren. Però en el meu cas, no surten ni les ratlletes.
> Primer he pensat que era un problema de hardware i que el micro intern no
> funcionava, però quan he vist que connectant els cascos amb micro tampoc no
> gravava, crec que tinc en algun lloc la captura a 0.
>

Em trobo amb la mateixa situació també Debian 10.3 però amb un Elitebook
830 G6 (amb nucli 5.5.11). He trobat d'altres usuaris (Ubuntu, però) en la
mateixa situació...
Amb el nucli 5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 del mateix Debuan passa el mateix.

Algunes proves que potser pots fer:

$ lspci |grep audio
00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 11)

$ sudo lspci -v -s 00:1f.3
00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 11)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Cannon Point-LP High Definition Audio
Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 130
Memory at 4022108000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Memory at 402200 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 
Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl

Així que el controlador és snd_hda_intel.

Una crida al programa alsa-info (paquet alsa-utils) també aporta moltíssima
informació.
(en el meu cas he trobat que la targeta en realitat és una Realtek ALC215.

Llàstima que amb això del confinament no pugui mirar-ho en el thinkpad X220
perquè el tinc a la feina...

SALUT!
Josep


>
> Em podeu ajudar?
>
> Merci.
>
> Vinga,
>
> Salut i desobediència!
>
>  Enric.
>
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> *
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>


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Re: Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[Belaïd]

Bonjour,

Tu peux fixer la priorité du paquet que tu veux fixer avec le système de
preferences d'apt. Par exemple si tu veux garder absolument la version 2 de
l'application "appli", tu peux mettre dans /etc/apt/preferences (faut peut
être ajuster un peu selon l'application):

Package: appli
Pin: version 2
Pin-Priority: 1001

Le mer. 25 mars 2020 à 11:03,  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> J’ai ce bogue de gravité critical sur libdns-export1110 (→
> 1:9.11.17+dfsg-4) 
>  b1 - #954736 - Upgrade to 9.16.1-1 causes dhcpd to die with SIGABRT
> Quand je réponds non, il arrête tout. J’aimerais juste que les mises à
> jour se fassent mais que ce paquet (et les paquets qui dépendent de lui) ne
> le soit pas.
> Je suis obligé de mettre à jour avec aptitude d’autres paquets mais c’est
> pénible.
> Je sais qu’on peut punaiser un paquet mais ça bloque toute mise à jour,
> pas la mise à jour vers une version précise (ou j’ai raté un truc).
> Quelqu’un sait comment bloquer juste une version d’un paquet dans une mise
> à jour ?
>
> nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
> --
> RÉALISME
>
> M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des
> humains ? Un cerveau plus gros ?
> P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...
>
>

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Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement

[François LE GAD]

Le 22/03/2020 à 19:41, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :

J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir.
Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer.
Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril.


Atril ne permet pas de remplir le pdf directement ?


Non.

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Re: Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[François LE GAD]

Le 25/03/2020 à 11:03, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit :

Je suis obligé de mettre à jour avec aptitude d’autres paquets mais c’est 
pénible.


Bonjour,

aptitude forbid-version [paquet]

Tu peux alors mettre le reste à jour avec aptitude. La mise à jour de 
[paquet] est ignorée jusqu'à la publication d'une autre version.


--
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Interdire une version précise d’un paquet.

[nicolas . patrois]

Bonjour,

J’ai ce bogue de gravité critical sur libdns-export1110 (→ 1:9.11.17+dfsg-4) 

 b1 - #954736 - Upgrade to 9.16.1-1 causes dhcpd to die with SIGABRT
Quand je réponds non, il arrête tout. J’aimerais juste que les mises à jour se 
fassent mais que ce paquet (et les paquets qui dépendent de lui) ne le soit pas.
Je suis obligé de mettre à jour avec aptitude d’autres paquets mais c’est 
pénible.
Je sais qu’on peut punaiser un paquet mais ça bloque toute mise à jour, pas la 
mise à jour vers une version précise (ou j’ai raté un truc).
Quelqu’un sait comment bloquer juste une version d’un paquet dans une mise à 
jour ?

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Re: Buster without systemd?

[Kamil Jońca]

deloptes  writes:

> Kamil Jońca wrote:
>
>>> Kamil Jońca wrote:
>>>
 Forget it. Show me how call script in reaction to DHPC events: BOUND
 RENEW REBIND TIMEOUT
 
>>>
>>> what for?
>> 
>> To convince me that systemd has enough functionality.
>> 
>
> I don't have to do anything.
>
Of course. And I don't have to take you seriously.

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Re: Buster without systemd?

[tomas]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:19:22AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 24 mar 20, 10:23:59, Charles Curley wrote:

[...]

> > It is positively Balmeresque in its insistence on metastasizing all over
> > your computer [...]

> It seems to me like you are comparing a FLOSS project with a company 
> that used its dominant market position to squash competition and a 
> terminal disease.

Agreed. I didn't like that either. Whatever the systemd team is doing,
and whether I like it or not -- they're doing free software. Attributes
like "Balmeresque" are doubly insulting, "metastasize" are insulting
(ironically copying Balmer's rhethoric -- remember "Linux is a cancer"?).

Those folks are doing free software. By all means criticize what they
are doing (or, even better: do something yourself), but FFS, take that
into account!

> This would be very insulting to those FLOSS developers, as well as all 
> developers of other FLOSS projects that *chose* to depend on systemd (or 
> parts of it), so I must surely be misunderstanding something.

Thanks. Sometimes I get tired of blowing into that horn. Don't want
systemd? Don't use it. And contribute to alternatives?

And be polite to those who do like systemd.

(And vice-versa, of course).

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Re: Instalar 'hostname'

[Ernest Adrogué]

2020-03-20, 17:15 (+0100); Narcis Garcia escriu:
> $ hostname -f
> hostname: Name or service not known
> 
> [...]
> 
> 2. Hi ha algun servei o fitxer del qual depèn aquest error sobre FQDN?

Diuen [1] que probablement et falta afegir el nom del host a /etc/hosts 

[1] 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/283550/i-got-error-hostname-name-or-service-not-known-when-checking-ip-of-hostname

Re: Buster without systemd?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 24 mar 20, 10:23:59, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:30:03 -0500
> Dave Sherohman  wrote:
> 
> > I expect that there would be much, much less resistance to systemd if
> > that were all that it does.  However, it has evolved to take over a
> > number of other functions aside from managing the order that services
> > are started, which makes many people uncomfortable with it.
> 
> It is positively Balmeresque in its insistence on metastasizing all over
> your computer, and in its insistence on being the One True Solution to
> whatever your problem may be.

It seems to me like you are comparing a FLOSS project with a company 
that used its dominant market position to squash competition and a 
terminal disease.

This would be very insulting to those FLOSS developers, as well as all 
developers of other FLOSS projects that *chose* to depend on systemd (or 
parts of it), so I must surely be misunderstanding something.

Kind regards,
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Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

[Joe]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:46:00 -0700
David Christensen  wrote:

 
> 
> I hosted services from home many years ago.  My bandwidth was very 
> quickly consumed and connectivity became a major problem.  Now I use 
> domain hosting and VPS services.
> 

I've never known enough about web server security to dare to run a site
on my own server. I've always used a small amount of hosted web space
elsewhere, and given somebody else the job of not getting hacked.

The downside of that is that one of my former hosts has been taken over
by another company, the web hosting was dropped but the server still
remains connected, so I have a ridiculously out-of-date set of pages
still up, that neither I nor anybody else are able to remove. The
copyright notice of 2007 is a clue to anybody finding it, which is at
least unlikely as it is accessible on a URL that I haven't published
anywhere for twenty years. But it's still there, I've just looked...

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Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[Joe]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:50:00 +0100
deloptes  wrote:

> Patrick Scribus wrote:
> 
> > What do you guys
> > use for similar tasks?  
> 
> I guess from share to a cloud.
> 
> I spent a lot of time in phone sync via bluetooth (calendar,
> contacts, todos and notes).
> 
> The PC does not have any data on it - there is a share. From outside
> - VPN to the share.
> 
> Keep your data at a central place. If you must edit documents from
> different devices - perhaps a kind of cloud solution is preferable.
> 
> 

Until your phone line goes down for a week, as mine did a few years
ago. I had a mobile dongle for simple things, but it was unreliable and
slow, and completely unusable for any kind of backup of more than a MB
or so, or for actually working through.

Or you find yourself occasionally working (as I do now) in a 'managed'
office, which provides a (slow again) access to a 192.168.x.0/24 with
a single outside world connection shared with the rest of the building.
My client there does not push enough through the net to be worth paying
for his own separate connection. And no, I don't have these problems
often enough for it to be worth me paying for a fast mobile connection.

And I like having custody of my own data. And I use Unison for my own
sync work mostly, with FreeFileSync on the Windows partitions of my
mobiles.

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Re: Night light, sunset and sunrise times in Gnome

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 24 mar 20, 18:24:04, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
> hello,
> I am running Gnome in Debian Buster, which comes with the Night Light
> feature. I have set up night light in the Sunset/Sunrise setting. I
> have also correcly set my timezone (location?). My issue is, sunset is
> coming and Night Light is gettin activated way after this time. I would
> like to ask how I can know where the program is getting my location's
> sunset time from?  Is there a way for me to check this? 
> thank you,

One way to determine your location would be from some GeoIP database, 
based on your public IP.

If your ISP is allocating IPs as mine does this might (sometimes) be 
wildly inaccurate.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Buster without systemd?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 24 mar 20, 20:34:24, deloptes wrote:
> 
> But the purpose of systemd is not to give you an interface. This is provided
> by each desktop. Systemd will give you the low level service management -
> AFAIK it works via dbus.
> 
> systemd <-> dbus <-> network-manager
>   |
> network-manager-interface
> 
> This is my understanding how it works or should work.

As far as I can tell network manager is *not* using systemd-networkd in 
the background (it doesn't depend on systemd).

Kind regards,
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Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 25 mar 20, 09:55:25, Anastasios Lisgaras wrote:
> 
> On 3/25/20 7:31 AM, Charles Curley wrote:
> > Concur on Syncthing. Since it is near-instantaneous, so are oopses. For
> > that I use rsnapshot.
> > 
> > Some other thoughts on backups.
> > http://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/
> 
> Excuse me, but I don't understand exactly what you mean.
> Could you explain a little more in detail?

Tools for keeping data in sync are often mistaken for a backup solution, 
which they are not.

If a file is corrupted, deleted, etc. in one place that will be 
propagated to all copies.

Depending on the features provided by the synchronisation tool they 
could be *a part* of a backup solution.

See http://taobackup.com for what a complete backup solution should 
provide.

Kind regards,
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Re: Problemes amb la captura d'audio

[Enric]

Gràcies Narcís,

ho provo!!


El 25/3/20 a les 9:22, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> Salut i desobediència!
>
> Aquestes coses sempre va bé comparar-les amb una sessió «Live», on cap
> de les teves configuracions haurà influït en el problema.
> Si a la sessió «Live» també trobes el mateix problema, assegura't que
> amb un altre ordinador no (no sigui que al «Live» li calgui alguna cosa).
>
>
> Narcis Garcia
>
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> El 25/3/20 a les 8:49, Enric ha escrit:
>> Salut,
>>
>> tinc una debian 10.3
>> en un portàtil thinkpad X220 i no em funciona la captura d'àudio.
>> Tinc un micro intern que m'ha funcionat durant força temps i ara m'ha
>> deixat de funcionar. El problema és que no recordo des de quan ni què hi
>> vaig fer que li afectés.
>>
>> Un altre tema és que només té una entrada d'àudio, per micro i cascos
>> simultàniament, i sembla que ho detecta bé, perquè quan hi endollo uns
>> cascos amb micro integrat el pavucontrol detecta que tinc un micro
>> connectat.
>>
>> He provat el alsamixer, el pavucontrol i el volum del lxde i no he
>> trobat que tingui res amb mute.
>> De fet, el pavucontrol quan surt el volum del micro, en altres màquines
>> veus les ratlletes que es mouen a mesura que parles, i pots clicar a
>> mute i es paren. Però en el meu cas, no surten ni les ratlletes.
>> Primer he pensat que era un problema de hardware i que el micro intern
>> no funcionava, però quan he vist que connectant els cascos amb micro
>> tampoc no gravava, crec que tinc en algun lloc la captura a 0.
>>
>> Em podeu ajudar?
>>
>> Merci.
>>
>> Vinga,
>>
>> Salut i desobediència!
>>
>>  Enric.
>>
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Re: Buster without systemd?

[deloptes]

Kamil Jońca wrote:

>> Kamil Jońca wrote:
>>
>>> Forget it. Show me how call script in reaction to DHPC events: BOUND
>>> RENEW REBIND TIMEOUT
>>> 
>>
>> what for?
> 
> To convince me that systemd has enough functionality.
> 

I don't have to do anything.

> 

 What I know, that if you have a good working DHCP server, you don't
 have to do any hacky stuff and scripts.
>>> Show me.
>>
>> why? You even didn't say "please"!
> 
> To show, that you know what are you saying.

you didn't say "please" again.

I am not your father or teacher or whatever. Do your homework by yourself.

Again: you do not describe your use case. Just demanding that it works the
way you think it should work. I bet you are not the smartest on the planet
Earth. It is up to you what and how you do things.
For myself I have found the perfect combination - no systemd on the servers
and since end of last year I migrated notebook and desktop to systemd.
Recently I also started migrating to UEFI, but it is another topic.

What matters is doing a good research, a good plan and executing the plan.
People (like you) usually don't bother to invest time in this planning
phase. Well ... it's not my business.
The point here was that you do not have to blame something if you do not
like or understand it. The time blaming systemd is over. I've not heard
recently of major issues caused by systemd. IMO it is already in the stable
phase ... but well you can't be sure, so do backups and tests.

regards

Directori d'usuari en nomes lectura

[Narcis Garcia]

Des de fa poques setmanes que, en arrencar un ordinador amb Debian 10
+Gnome, no inicia la sessió d'escriptori de l'usuari (l'únic que té) i
vaig trobar que era perquè el directori /home/usuari no té permisos
d'escriptura:

$ ls -l /home/
dr-xr-x--- 88 user user   4096 de març  25 09:09 user

Per a treballar, cal iniciar sessió de terminal amb un altre TTYs i
executar:
$ sudo chmod u+w /home/usuari
i aleshores el gdm sí que aconsegueix iniciar la sessió d'escriptori.

Algú més s'hi ha trobat? Quin maleït programa treu el permís
d'escriptura d'aquest directori?

Gràcies.

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