Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:09:17PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 17:32 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > If someone DOES want a script option that solves that problem, a > > couple of actual working scripts were supplied in the link I gave to > &g

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:03:50PM +0100, hw wrote: > Show me any installer for Linux distributions that handles this > sufficently without further ado. That was the question I posed several posts back: what do people do for redundant ESP. > When you don't use btrfs, you have either

Re: Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Thanks, this is very useful. On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:58:08PM +0100, hw wrote: > However, stay away from their cheap models as seen on this[1] picture > (Back UPS). They work and you can replace the batteries yourself even > though you're not supposed to. It's a minimum basic device. It

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Keeping all this context because I don't actually see how the response matches the context and so I might have missed something… On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 11:54:05AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > hw wrote: > > How is btrfs going to deal with this problem when using RAID? Require > > hardware

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 05:17:14PM +0100, hw wrote: > Ok if Andy and you are right, you could reasonably boot machines with > an UEFI BIOS when using mdadm RAID :) I've been doing it for more than two decades, though not with UEFI. > How is btrfs going to deal with this problem when using

Re: Postponed publickey before Accepted publickey - what's happening there then?

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 09:55:16AM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 27 Jan 2024 08:12 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith): > > This only happens when I log in as root using a public key, i.e. > > > > ssh -i /path/to/pubkey r...@t.example.com &g

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 11:05:30AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in > > any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of > > understanding. > >

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Hans, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +0100, Hans wrote: > I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years. I'm not sure who you're replying to as you've removed those details, though I may guess from your In-Reply-To header which doesn't point to a list message. You

Postponed publickey before Accepted publickey - what's happening there then?

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I typically have logcheck send me anomalous logs. In the last week, all Debian 10 machines (I know, I know, upgrade needed) started logging this whenever I logged in from a particular other host by SSH: 2024-01-27T07:59:42.003881+00:00 t.example.com sshd[12319]: Postponed publickey for root

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:50:00PM +0100, hw wrote: > How do you make the BIOS read the EFI partition when it's on mdadm > RAID? If MD superblock is at a part of device not used by filesystem (e.g. the end) and it is a RAID-1, each member device is indistinguishable from FAT filesystem

Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:11:39PM +0100, hw wrote: > I've never had issues with any UPS due to self tests. The batteries > need to be replaced when they are worn out. How often that is > required depends on the UPS and the conditions it is working in, > usually every 3--5 years. Out of

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 08:40:42AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/26/24 08:19, Tim Woodall wrote: > > Hardware raid that the bios cannot subvert is obviously one solution. > > > Is nearly the only solution, If the problem to be solved is defined as redundancy for the ESP, there are a

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 01:18:53PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > Hardware raid that the bios cannot subvert is obviously one solution. These days the different trade-offs for HW RAID are IMHO worse. I left it behind in 2014 and don't intend to go back.  Thanks, Andy --

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 10:09:53AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Andy Smith (12024-01-26): > > The "firmware may write to it" thing was raised as a concern by a > > few people,but always a theoretical one from what I could see. > > Now that I think a little

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Nicolas, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 08:49:06AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Tim Woodall (12024-01-26): > > Until your UEFI bios writes to the disk before the system has booted. > > Hi. Have you ever observed an UEFI firmware doing that? Without explicit > admin instructions? Going back to my

On the deprecation of separate /usr (Was: Re: Resizing LVM partitions)

2024-01-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 09:20:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > Notice that separate /usr is not supported by latest systemd that should be > a part of the next Debian release. I don't think this is the case. What I think is not supported is a separate /usr that is not mounted by

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 11:17:34AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Since mdadm can only put its superblock at the end of the device (1.0), > at the beginning of the device (1.1) and 4 Ko from the beginning (1.2), > but they still have not invented 1.3 to have the metadata 17 Ko from the >

Re: Resizing LVM partitions

2024-01-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 12:29:18AM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > Dunno ... in any case, for some reason the rescue mode I went to by booting > from an old installation CD (dated back to Debian 6.0.1A Squeeze!) did not > see partitions in form of e.g. /dev/mapper/localhost-home, but rather >

Re: Resizing LVM partitions

2024-01-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:59:55PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > On 1/22/24 6:59 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 03:40:06PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:29:55AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > lvreduce --size -50G --resizefs

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-20 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 08:01:52AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Now, after the disk_image has arrived, it looks very odd. fdisk > thinks it is 8 times bigger than it really is, and thinks it has 4K > sectors. I can't use "kpartx" to get at the partition inside it, and > fsck

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? h-boy, strap yourselves in for another epic Sophie/Michael thread. A bit like the Gene ones, though tend to be circular across a

Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:01:46PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-01-18, Andy Smith wrote: > > If you use --delete-after (and some other options) then rsync has to > > check every file before it can do any work, whereas normally it will > > find a few files

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:28:30AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Sounds like this group has finally achieved a long overdue consensus. How > many times since LVM was ready for root/boot volumes have I been told that > using partitions was necessary good practice. Even had that in job >

Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:09:35PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > However, I have read that using rsync --delete instead of rsync -- > > delete-after is faster and uses less memory, and so is more efficient.  > > I'd be surprised if it makes a significant difference. If you use

Re: standardize uid:gid?

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 06:23:28AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2024, David Chmelik wrote: > > > Couldn't Debian standardize uid:gid numbers for daemons? […] > I haven't tried it but I would assume that if the user exists then the > package uses that. Correct. So for our

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:53:43AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'm clearly a member of a third group of people,,, :-) Oh, I didn't mean to imply that those going by taste were in a minority! Taste, or possibly, "just never thought about it" could well be the biggest group. I was only

Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 02:52:49PM -0500, Default User wrote: > By "glitch", I mean anything that could interfere with the rsync copy > process. Possible causes: > - electrical outages, voltage spikes, voltage drops, "brownouts" > - mechanical failure > - earthquake > - lightning > - cat

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Stefan, On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 05:31:37AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:32:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > What happens if you use diskimages that contain directly a filesystem > > without going through the trouble of using a partition table? >

Testing storage performance (Was Re: mdraid construction and testing (was: smartctl cannot access my stor...))

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Felix, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 04:50:01PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > What can I use to test what its write speed is? I'm not seeing any option to > do so > in hdparm. The king of storage performance testing is "fio". It's packaged in Debian. It's really worth learning a bit about. What

Re: Debian 11 & Debian 12

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jeff, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:25:40PM +, Jeff Jennings wrote: > Please find a way to restore the integrity of open-source software > distribution. Firmware updates are required for almost every general purpose computing device in existence and at this time those are non-free. You

To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 01:01:02PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 1/16/24 11:51, Franco Martelli wrote: > > I thought it was mandatory for a RAID to partition drives with this > > partition type, am I wrong? In the ancient past it was required, because that was one of the ways that

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 01:17:42AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > If rsync really is bugged, maybe a change of options would avoid the bug. Try > instead of -av, -rlptgoDAXUNH. Could it be that verbosity is the OOM > crippler, and > not necessarily from rsync itself, but possibly from the

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:20:51PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > In your dd commands that moved these filesystems, did you specify ibs= > and/or obs= No. I don't see how that would make any difference. I could as well have used "cat|ssh" instead of "dd|ssh". Also note that the image

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Stefan, On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:32:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Do you need a partition table? These are other people's virtual machines so to some extent I don't have a say on what they put inside them. It is always nice to understand what is going on though! > What happens if you

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:37:08AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Andy Smith (12024-01-13): > > As usual you have not bothered to show us what you are talking about > > (the email from smartd) > > And that leads you to write a patient and detailed answer, so surely

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Thomas, On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 02:33:37PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I wonder, though, why fdisk would misrepresent the total disk size, > which i would expect to come from the storage device. > Maybe fdisk is more confused than i expect. > > Can you show the whole output of fdisk from

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 08:01:52AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > If necessary and if there is a way, I *can* nuke off the target > machine's "foo" volume group and recreate the RAID array if I have > to make it 512e format. But obviously I'd like some way to move this > disk i

512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I've got a disk image that sits on top of an LVM logical volume that is on top of an mdadm RAID-1 that is on top of a pair of: Device Model: Samsung SSD 870 EVO 4TB Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical so let';s say that is at /dev/foo/disk_image (where /dev/foo is the name of

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Gene, On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:23:28PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Does making a raid erase the drives label field in a gpt partition scheme? > > That question ought to have a simple yes or no answer. I'm forced to conclude that it's a waste of anyone's time to try to help you since you

Re: Virtualization

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 08:38:37AM -0800, Chip Snuth wrote: > I'm currently using RHEL however, I am still virtualization to play with   > Debian instead of houseing my RHEL installation . Would the Debian community > view me as a trator ofr chill for closed source and proprietary software? >

Re: File has unexpected size (x != y). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: ...] ...

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 02:06:22PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 13 Jan 2024 13:44 +, from lbrt...@gmail.com (Albretch Mueller): > > E: Failed to fetch > > https://myattwg.att.com/olam/jsp/login/uverse/VS/UverseAccount.html > > File has unexpected size (7009 != 20884). Mirror

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:57:23PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/12/24 21:56, Andy Smith wrote: > > No it doesn't; smartctl works on drives, not mdadm arrays. mdadm > > arrays are composed of block devices. Therefore any output you get > > from smartd refe

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, There are some indicators of a fundamental lack of understanding here I'm afraid. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 09:42:54PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > smartctl says my raid10 is dying, No it doesn't; smartctl works on drives, not mdadm arrays. mdadm arrays are composed of block devices.

/usr on NFS (was: Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/)

2024-01-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 10:41:05AM -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > I did that for years. > > Then again, when I started doing that, I was using PLIP over a > null-printer cable. But even after I could afford larger harddrives > (so I had room to install /usr), and Ethernet cards (and later a

Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 05:06:33AM +, miphix wrote: > If you were to issue 'ls -l /' You'll find that /bin, /sbin, > lib{32,64,x32} are linked to their counterparts in /usr/. I under- > stand the logic in doing so. However, for specific reasons that would > require exhaustive

Re: Donate money

2024-01-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 11:30:52AM +1000, David wrote: > Perhaps the Debian Project, represented in the media as `an > unaccountable collective of hackers', will be next. Debian doesn't sell any products or services and doesn't take donations; the organisations that take donations on

Re: Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC

2024-01-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 06:35:26PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Most important: It can run all debian things (and more), but note, the EEEPC > is 32-bit, so you need the 32-bit version of debian. Which there won't be after the next release, or maybe for the next release. This is not something to

Re: NFS: IPV6

2024-01-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 07:04:21AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > I have this in the exports, ipv4 works > > /srv/Multimedia 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,subtree_check) > /srv/Other 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,subtree_check) > #/home

Re: 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors How worried should I be?

2024-01-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 04:27:54PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > OOPS! -w is the destructive test. I now have a hard drive full of 0x00s. > I should have used the -n option. However, it reported no failures. So has this coaxed the drive into reducing its pending sector count to zero or

Re: 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors How worried should I be?

2024-01-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 08:17:55PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 00:29:42 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > If a SMART long self-test came back clean then it already has been > > re-mapped as a long self-test reads every user-accessible sector. > &g

Re: 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors How worried should I be?

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:42:37PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > If I understand that entry in the SMART report, the offending > sector should eventually be re-mapped or else marked as > unrecoverable. If the latter, I'll get really concerned. If a SMART long self-test came back clean

Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (modified 20240101)

2024-01-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new > thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header, > the new subject would get buried in the old thread. Personally I prefer that. I

Re: URLs in Mutt

2024-01-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 09:23:03AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Passing the entire text/html part to an actual web browser has been > what works best for me. Me too. I'll do the mailcap thing to visually skim the text/html part with w3m, but there are so many broken HTML messes that I'm

Re: md0 + UUIDs for member disks

2023-12-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 06:17:07PM +0100, Felix Natter wrote: > Andy Smith writes: > > But to be absolutely sure you may wish to totally ignore md0 and > > its member devices during install as all their data and the > > metadata on their member devices will

Re: md0 + UUIDs for member disks

2023-12-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Felix, On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 04:46:10PM +0100, Felix Natter wrote: > I have /dev/md0 mounted at /storage which consists of two HDDs. > > Now I would like to add an SSD drive for better performance of > VMs. Usually, before doing this, I make sure that all of my disks are > mounted using

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:05:53PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Why would %S be in the range second (00..60), instead of > (00..59)?: Remember what seems like years ago in this thread when I said that if we're being pedantic, this is more complicated than you think, and you scoffed

Re: package manager

2023-12-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi William, On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:57:58AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is > > not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: > > http://repo.mysql.com/apt/debian bullseye InRelease: The

Re: Clarification: public private replies [WAS Re: Formal reminder of Codes of Conduct]

2023-12-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 03:49:13PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/21/23 14:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Posting well-intentioned private replies back to the list is not > > appropriate. > > Please clarify how the Debian Community Team wishes us to respond to the > following

Re: systemd and timezone

2023-12-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:36:34PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Servers work in groups and log-aggregation and analysis software is normal > in that context. And since your web server fleet, for one example, may be > spread across multiple timezones or multiple continents to reduce

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
wrote: > > On 12/21/23 08:49, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:35:44AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > > > Maybe I should not post

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:35:44AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > Maybe I should not post at all? > > Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 01:10:59PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > Yes: I do run a web server at home, but there is only a little/personal stuff, > it does not receive much real traffic, I do not want it to. Most of my web > presence is hosted elsewhere. Okay well 30KiB/s is only about

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Maybe I should not post at all? Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I for one am in favour of. Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Does one email constitute "persistently undeliverable"? I hope that the Debian listmasters get back to you with more details, but I interpret Spectrum's reject message to mean that all mails from Debian's IP from that time forward

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:30:24AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > And yes, yell to your provider. Everyone and her dog coming > > up with random policies is what's killing email. > > I am sure the will be quaking in their boots if I call them to

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:12, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 20.12.2023 um 11:07:16 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > > > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, > > > as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well > as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the > reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections and try > again

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:43:04AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 10:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > For the gateway errors and majordomo delays, you should probably > > contact . Also see > > . > > That goes without any response, I can not tell if the

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big mail > providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting the next > contact. Most spammers seem to try just once. I think you are talking

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:13:12AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: > > these administrative commands should go to the mailing list > > software at , not to debian-user@, > > which is the list itself and its thousands of subscribers. […] > Ev

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative commands should go to the mailing list software at , not to debian-user@, which is the list itself and its thousands of subscribers. (A pity

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 03:28:58PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/17/23, Andy Smith wrote: > > subtracting one epoch time from another doesn't always produce > > an accurate duration. […] > how on earth would that not always produce an accurate duration?

Re: Finding i386 After Support Ends (Was: differences among amd64 and i386)

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 09:16:49AM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > That points you to an amazingly long list of Debian releases: > > https://linuxcollections.com/products/debian/debian.htm Though if I wanted an image for an old Debian release I'd just download it from:

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 06:10:49AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 7:45 PM Tixy wrote: > > Just announced today [1] it looks like Debian will drop i386 installs > > for the next release. > > > > [1]

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:12:11AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > dt00=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) > echo "// __ \$dt00: |${dt00}|" > > ... after some long processing for which seconds would be exact > enough, then I would like to get the seconds elapsed since dt00, like > this: > >

Re: dhcpd.conf Q?

2023-12-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:16:41PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/16/23 11:41, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:42:33AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > Persuant to the dhcpd discussion, I have install a local isc-dhpd-serv

Re: dhcpd.conf Q?

2023-12-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:42:33AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Persuant to the dhcpd discussion, I have install a local isc-dhpd-server. I > setup a $20 wide block, starting at 192.168.71.100 I'm going to take a guess that you mean your pool is from .100 to .119 (or .120?) as I've never

Re: Problem with /var/cache/apt/archives/

2023-12-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 03:03:38PM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 12/16/23 14:45, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > When I installed the OS I selected the option for separate /var > > etc, and selected the default sizes of the partitions. […] > > Can I increase the size of the /var partition on

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:00:00AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: > > Thunar, yes, but I don't use it, not my cup of tea. […] > It sounds like OpenSCAD and gidislicer have something in common that is > causing the issue, while the other apps do

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:54:08PM +, fuf wrote: > I don't notice differences among amd64 and i386 but think to pick among > this. Give advice, what better please? i386 (or any other 32-bit x86) Linux should generally not ever be used on any hardware that supports amd64. The main reason for

letsencrypt certs for disconnected hosts (Was Re: update-ca-certificates)

2023-12-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 07:50:00PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:34:37 +0800 > jeremy ardley wrote: > > > You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use letsencrypt > > to generate valid certificates for hosts even if they are not > > directly connected

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:29:44PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/your/home/dir/zero bs=1m count=100 The above and the other dd invocation should have 'bs=1M'. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my > /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that > wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30

Re: Xorg fails, no gui: systemd issue?

2023-12-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 12:57:59AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 3:01 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Today is the 8th of December - strictly, that's barely a business week. > > > > Debian expressly comes with no guarantees. You are running sid a.k.a > > unstable

Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:26:41AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > I figured out the problem and apt is working fine now. It would be nice for you to elaborate, both to satisfy my curiosity  and to provide a search engine hit for anyone encountering this in future. Thanks, Andy

Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:11:54AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > /var/lib/dpkg/info/php-horde.postrm: 28: /etc/apache2/envvars: > /etc/default/locale: Permission denied The postrm script of php-horde is failing, so the package cannot be properly uninstalled. I'd look in

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) I don't think it does. Just because you found a file on the filesystem that says it does, is as trustworthy as the claims in your email that your client is called Henry

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:25:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > You may ask me questions or suggest options on my wordpress page: > > https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/06/tog-touch-of-god-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ This page doesn't seem to exist (yet?). I looked at the root of

Re: Telnet

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 09:50:00AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > My telnet not operate, try connect my laptop by means of telnet: Can someone examine the list's configuration? This email from 1994 seems to have only just been delivered. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ --

Re: Non-delivery reports from postmas...@ewetel.de

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:53:46PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:21 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from > > postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? […] > When I receive

Re: Non-delivery reports from postmas...@ewetel.de

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi John, On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 10:19:51AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Andy Smith writes: > > Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from > > postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? > > I am. Before posting the above I had reported

Re: Non-delivery reports from postmas...@ewetel.de

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Christoph, On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 09:47:00AM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:02:47PM + schrieb Andy Smith: > > Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from > > postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? The

Non-delivery reports from postmas...@ewetel.de

2023-12-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? They look like this: From: postmas...@ewetel.de To: a...@strugglers.net Subject: E-Mail Abweisungsbenachrichtigung / email bounce notification It goes on to

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-12-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:21:05PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/11/2023 23:12, Andy Smith wrote: > > Unless you have a dedicated time source (e.g. GPS receiver, atomic > > decay source, …) > > A nitpick. I am puzzled by the word "decay" in this context

Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!

2023-12-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:06:58PM +, fuf wrote: > root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l > bash: fdisk: command not found > > whereas: > root@debian:/sbin# ls -al > . > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root169520 Mar 23 2023 fdisk > > why? My first guess is that you may have done "su" which

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/30/23 21:37, Max Nikulin wrote: > > So to install "klipper is just a program" you run some scripts that > > overwrite /etc/network/interfaces and you blame NetworkManager and some > > other stuff instead. > If you would

Re: time question, as in ntp?

2023-11-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 01:52:46PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/29/23 13:20, John Hasler wrote: > > But first fix that address. > > How, John? QIDI is afraid of enabling full net access because it might > overwrite some of their special stuff. Right now its running armbian buster,

Re: dedicated IP

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 04:03:04PM -, Curt wrote: > NordVPN advertises very heavily in France on television and claims to > provide safety against bad actors (personified as villainous figures > observing your every move) when using it. It's their only selling point. And obviously

Re: Security vulnerability at curl package: CVE-2023-44487: HTTP/2 Rapid Reset

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 08:56:28AM +, Marold Marcus (DC-AE/ESW1) wrote: > I would like to request an upgrade of the curl package (Linux > Ubuntu Core 22 / Jammy) to Nghttp2 v1.57.0 because of > CVE-2023-44487: > HTTP/2 Rapid Reset. Your

Re: dedicated IP

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 06:42:53PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Nov 27, 2023, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > NORPVPN is software that installs a VPN.  Not really trying to solve a > > problem just securing my machine against intruders.  My understanding of a > > dedicated IP means I will

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