Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-10 Thread Chrissy R
Well wait until it will return you an income before getting it. Buy the cheaper version. Investigate the alternatives. There are plenty of Free and Open ones out there. We can't have everything we want. I understand form your messages that you are a student. You will not be a student

Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-10 Thread jnorth
Borland has always had academic versions and I don't see why this would change for Delphi 6. Are you using delphi in your course? It would be nice if Borland could do something like this. --- New Zealand Delphi Users

Re: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough (Web Development)

2001-05-10 Thread LIST at Nothing But Net
Perhaps, but how about Interbase data? How about data inwards from the web to the main live database. How about if that main live database was also interacted with by the main application written in Delphi? I have exactly this setup myself! I run Linux on my web server, which is sitting right

Re: [DUG]: Try This

2001-05-10 Thread Corey Murtagh
Chrissy R wrote: It has happened on five different machines (everyone that I have tried) and there have different HW/OS configs. Add mine to that list - BCB4.0Pro on Win98 w/Riva TNT2-M64 and latest drivers. I think it's a problem with the VCL in general. I've run into similar things with

Re: [DUG]: Try This

2001-05-10 Thread Chrissy R
Chrissy R wrote: It has happened on five different machines (everyone that I have tried) and there have different HW/OS configs. Add mine to that list - BCB4.0Pro on Win98 w/Riva TNT2-M64 and latest drivers. I think it's a problem with the VCL in general. I've run into similar

RE: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough

2001-05-10 Thread Steve Peacocke
At 09:00 am 10.05.01 +1200, you wrote: At NZ$5500 pa the MSDN Universal subscription seems to represent comparitively remarkable value for money. It includes 5 user licenses of the Enterprise versions of all the MS development tools (?), all the Windows platforms, the MSDN library, Office,

Re: [DUG]: Try This

2001-05-10 Thread Corey Murtagh
Gawd, tracing what happens when you resize a form is MIND NUMBING stuff. Anyhow, the chain of events near as I can tell: you resize the form windows sends WM_SIZE to the form, form enters WMSize during handling of WM_SIZE the align code resizes the form WMSize called recursively to

Re: [DUG]: Pricing ...

2001-05-10 Thread Chrissy R
Windows is here to stay and I don't think Borland can ever move away from it. But I think that people at Borland, responsible for pricing, seem to ignore this and are trying to move away from windows, by pricing Delphi so high. What are these people upto? At this rate I only see Delphi

[DUG]: Pricing ...

2001-05-10 Thread Joel van Velden
Speaking of Paradox, I just happen to have an original version unopened that's looking for a new home. ;-) -Joel Way, way back, many moons ago, there are a product launch of the second version of an application. It was $1k+ (when that was still a lot for a PC application) and that price

Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-10 Thread Chrissy R
Borland has always had academic versions and I don't see why this would change for Delphi 6. Are you using Delphi in your course? Yep. I am doing a Master of Science degree and then a PhD. The masters is a two year course and 1 1/2 years of that will be using Delphi. The PhD is (in theory)

Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-10 Thread jnorth
At the end of my masters and PhD I will (hopefully) have a programming language written in Delphi. Why do you need Delphi enterprise to do this? --- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[DUG]: What's that??

2001-05-10 Thread NIRAV KAKU
All these comments flying through... I thought I will put my views too FACTS: Back in 1998, I wanted to buy Delphi. I contacted the all India!! supplier in the country. Told him what I needed. They guys never got back to me. Know why? Because they simply didn't care. That's understood. So I

Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-10 Thread Nello Sestini
year that require the use of Delphi. At the end of my masters and PhD I will (hopefully) have a programming language written in Delphi. All the design will be done - if Delphi is too expensive then it will be re-written in something that is cheaper. if you are going to develop a new

Re: [DUG]: Try This

2001-05-10 Thread Chrissy R
Gawd, tracing what happens when you resize a form is MIND NUMBING stuff. Anyhow, the chain of events near as I can tell: you resize the form windows sends WM_SIZE to the form, form enters WMSize during handling of WM_SIZE the align code resizes the form WMSize called recursively

RE: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough

2001-05-10 Thread Colin Fraser
Last time when Delphi 5 was released, I could not justify going to the Enterprise version... so we went with the Pro version (4 licenses) and purchased the ADO add-on and a few other third party tools... That has worked fine for us... so the main question is do you (or I !!) need the Enterprise

RE: [DUG]: Pricing ...

2001-05-10 Thread James Sugrue
Couldn't agree more. Also one other point Premier 6.0 Video Editing software has just been released. $2000 for first time buyers, $338 to upgrade. Now that is a much fairer upgrade price... -Original Message- From: Mark Derricutt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001

RE: [DUG]: Pricing ...

2001-05-10 Thread Jeremy Coulter
Hi All. Well whilst I agree with everyone about the pricing structrue (which I am sure is based on the think of a number, double it theory) Borland uses and the objectionalble price they charge to upgrade, MS dont really offer any good incentive when upgrading to SQL Server 2k from SQL 7. I think

[DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread Graham Mayes
I feel I must have missed something very elementary here:- A form has (say) 20 buttons named Button1, Button2 etc.. If you want to do something with each button, at the moment I write Button1.enabled:=true; Button2.enabled:=true; Button3.enabled:=true; . . etc How can I refer

RE: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough

2001-05-10 Thread Peter Hyde
Colin wrote: And a final maybe... maybe we just need to wait for a couple of weeks and see how things settle down, see if more info becomes available as to what really is 'New' and what really is in the Enterprise version and available in no other way... Wise words. Thanks to third-party

RE: [DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread Luke Pascoe
You can either iterate through the controls on the form using MyForm.Controls and checking thier type or you can define a private TList and push all your buttons into the list on create (or in the constructor) and iterate through the TList.

Re: [DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread Neven MacEwan
Graham for i := 0 to Form.ComponentCount-1 do if Form.Components[i].InheritsFrom(TButton) then TButton(Form.Components[i]).Enabled:=true; HTH Neven - Original Message - From: Graham Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 May

Re: [DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread Neven MacEwan
James For Counter := 1 to Form1.Controlscount do Do a bit of VB programming do you? :-) Neven - Original Message - From: James Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 11:02 Subject: RE: [DUG]: basic question?

Re: [DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread David Brennan
Or you can use FindComponent if you only want buttons with a certain name: eg if you know there are 20 buttons such as bSpecial1, bSpecial2, ... bSpecial20 var LButton : TButton; ... for i := 1 to 20 do begin LButton := (Form.FindComponent('bSpecial' + IntToStr(i)) as TButton); if

RE: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough

2001-05-10 Thread Xander van der Merwe
The Polytech here has substantially moved from Delphi to Java in the past year or two also. This is regrettable. On another sad note: Auckland Uni held a technology expo day a couple of months or so ago. I was informed by a reliable source that they announced at this event the cancellation of

RE: [DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread James Low
Sorry to say, thats how I feed the family ... so when I respond here I kind of get the jitters because I have to think Delphi and don't have the benefit of the IDE or the last line of code I just typed ... Oh well, now I've been found out I guess I can relax a bit. Don't feel too upset by the

RE: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough

2001-05-10 Thread Sergei Stenkov
Also, an interesting side note to do with market share or future market share... Down here in little old Hamilton, a friend of mine was keen to go to a Delphi course at Tech... the course ended up been cancelled due to not enough interest/registrations, so they decided to do a Java course

Re: [DUG]: basic question?

2001-05-10 Thread Mark Derricutt
One construct I wish they'd put in delphi is the ability to write code like: procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); var ADataSet: TDataSet; begin for ADataSet in [qryStaff, qryClients, qryProducts] do begin ADataSet.Close; ADataSet.Open; end; end; At the moment to do

Re: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough

2001-05-10 Thread Mark Howard
Well OK. Here's my little history lesson! Having cut my teeth on HPBasic (9830) and later versions of Basic in the '70's I bought (in the mid 80's) a neat package from Informix called the Programmers Toolbox containing SQL and 4GL at what must have been a VERY reasonable price (MUST have been

[DUG]: Basic Question

2001-05-10 Thread Graham Mayes
Wow, thankyou all. . . exactly what I wanted. Nevan --- worse ... Quickbasic. Graham --- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz To UnSub,

[DUG]: Contract job in Auckland

2001-05-10 Thread Alex Kouznetsov
If anyone interested: Contractor required for work on Delphi 5 project using SQL7 and ADO. Min 1 year Delphi experience, plus inventory/accounting exposure desirable. Please contact Miles Bland at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland

2001-05-10 Thread Neil Anderson
Must supply own copy of Delphi Enterprise ! :) -Original Message-From: Alex Kouznetsov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 12:57 p.m.To: Multiple recipients of list delphiSubject: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland If anyone interested: Contractor

Re: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland

2001-05-10 Thread Alex Kouznetsov
Pro is enough for a pro Alex KouznetsovALM Systems Ltdwww.almsystems.com - Original Message - From: Neil Anderson To: Multiple recipients of list delphi Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 11:04 Subject: RE: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland Must supply own copy of Delphi Enterprise ! :)

Re:RE: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland

2001-05-10 Thread paul . mckenzie
Would they accept working Free for the next 3 years to pay it Off ;-) Regards Paul McKenzie Must supply own copy of Delphi Enterprise ! :) -Original Message- From: Alex Kouznetsov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 12:57 p.m. To: Multiple

Re: Re:RE: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland

2001-05-10 Thread Nello Sestini
Would they accept working "Free" for the next 3 years to pay it Off ;-) in 3 years they'll be 2 upgrades behind. g -ns

[DUG]: Delphi 6 and proposed release structure

2001-05-10 Thread jnorth
Hi all, Would you be more influence to upgrade if the period between versions was greater. I personally think 12 to 18 months is too short. What if the major release version was at least 24 months apart. After about a year you got say a .5 release and there were more maintenance releases that

Re[2]: Re:RE: [DUG]: Contract job in Auckland

2001-05-10 Thread paul . mckenzie
Thats why 3 years - 5.5K upgrade V6, 10K upgrade V7, 15K upgrade V8... You could probably end up working the rest of your life free just trying to pay off the upgrades ... :) Regards Paul McKenzie Reply Separator Subject: Re: Re:RE: [DUG]: Contract job

Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 and proposed release structure

2001-05-10 Thread David Brennan
Mmmm, interesting idea. Question, why is this idea more attractive to you than the existing purchase system? Answer (IMO), because you think our proposed system would end up cheaper for you. And you are probably right - after all you can probably develop fine without needing most of these

RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 and proposed release structure

2001-05-10 Thread Martin Paulo
Damn right - this proposal would end up cheaper for me. And for every other developer out there. It will even make life 'cheaper' for companies. But for Borland it will mean a big fat and expanding revenue pipe. Consider: For an enterprise, or even a small one man dev. shop: How much time is

RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 and proposed release structure

2001-05-10 Thread Mark Derricutt
Just imagine all those script kiddies who'll have access to your source code once they take over and 0wn borlands services site... Do you trust your source code, your intellectual property to be secure on a system you can't control, nor have physical access to? Somehow I don't see alot of

[DUG]: Pricing ...

2001-05-10 Thread Joel van Velden
Read from bottom of rather large and heavy box: W I N D O W S PARADOX WINDOWS INTL INCLUDES: 3.5'' HD DISKS. Version: 1.0 My biggest problem is that I can't (legally) sell it on EBay, 'cause I'm under 18. -Anyway. If anyone wants it, its still here. -Joel Original? Like version 1? That