Replying from off-list, pardon the break. At the encouragement of
various important parties on #gnome-hackers, I am posting a copy of this
from my blog in an effort to help focus the Pro/Con-Mono argument. I am
not taking any side. This is only a summary.
So, I spent two hours reading every email
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 10:12 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote:
This is really just a packaging issue, on opensuse/SLED they are all
individual packages (glib-sharp, gtk-sharp, etc).
Not taking a side but I would like to point out that they are also
separately packaged on Ubuntu and Debian-based distros.
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 13:48 +, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
For those who don't believe me, have a look at your friends of KDE. They
produce
a huge amount of application written in C++ with Qt and sometime it looks like
Gnome is really lagging behind. Too bad for us, we have a very good C++
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 10:33 +0200, Andy Wingo wrote:
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 23:33 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
Anti-Mono folks generally [...] think
that high level languages should only be used for
prototyping (the benefits of RAD don't outweigh the
cons).
Some people have said
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 08:23 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
[snip]
So, I spent two hours reading every email sent in April, May and July
about including Mono as an official part of the GNOME platform
That hasn't been proposed, as far as I know. It's been proposed for the
Platform Bindings.
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 07:55 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
søn, 16 07 2006 kl. 23:33 -0500, skrev Jason D. Clinton:
While you provided a fine run down of arguments, I believe you forgot a
vital one, Mono can be optimized, we can cut down ressource consumption,
we can indeed do better - we
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 16:32 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
I don't have concerns about this that need addressing. Gtk# has simply not
been proposed for the Developer Platform during GNOME 2.15/2.16.
So, I am seeking clarification, not trying to start something ... Are
you saying that Tomboy
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 08:33 -0700, Rich Burridge wrote:
Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
I am not saying we shouldn't take good ideas etc., from Apple, but lets
try to remember that Apple is basically a failure in the desktop market.
What were you smoking when you wrote this?
I
On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 00:03 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
* Should applications built with anything in the Bindings suite be accepted
into the Desktop suite?
- short to medium term
- do we want the central components of our software to potentially be
written in five to ten different
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 12:35 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I noticed that bug-buddy refuses to file bugs against a number of core
desktop applications (I just found yelp and evince). I think we should
make an effort to ensure that all core desktop apps have the necessary
information in their
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 13:39 -0400, Ben Maurer wrote:
I don't think this is an item worth dividing on. For languages like Mono
(and Java with GCJ), the compile or JIT (for Mono) or interp (for GCJ) is
purely a case-by-case performance decision.
...
The statement that performance is generally
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 14:20 -0400, Ben Maurer wrote:
AOT is *not* always faster. There are lots of variables. For example, at
JIT time, the compiler can make some assumptions that AOT can not (for
example, if you have a static readonly field [static final in java], JITs
can inline the
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 21:06 +0200, Fernando Herrera wrote:
Anyway, I did my best to get new bug-buddy interface and internal
ready for 2.16, after the great work from Olav in bugzilla.gnome.org
and lot of help from Brent. I am sorry about breaking the command line
interface that yelp and other
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 15:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
You need to add something to the .desktop file to convince bug-buddy
to consider your app. Check out a desktop file of an app that bug-buddy
does recognize for the details.
I do appreciate your help but I was hoping for something a
Here is the information everyone needs. Apparently mistakenly sent only
to me.
---BeginMessage---
Hi,
On 7/21/06, Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do appreciate your help but I was hoping for something a little more
definitive.
What is it?
Metainformation about the application
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:07 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote:
The system bus (=0.90) needs to be running and accessible by the
build. We need to remove this dependency in the future. The quick fix
is to build outside of jhbuild and copy the
dbus-bus-introspect.xml into the tools directory
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 01:06 +1000, Nigel Tao wrote:
thingy people have implemented, aiming for the 2.16 release timeframe.
So are you asking for official inclusion of this for 2.16?
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On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:31 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:
Is it really that hard to check a digital signature? I'd have thought
there'd be APIs in Python/C/Mono that make this trivial by now. And that's
all you have to do to protect against the files are changed by evil
people case.
gpg has well
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 18:55 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
/me starts cheerleading federico on
I don't know the answers, but the building-gnome nightmare is long
overdue for discussion.
...
Magnus Therning spent a similar amount of time recently, with the gory
details archives on the
The GNOME Games maintainers, Andreas and I, are planning to deprecate
one GNOME Games game which is unpopular and difficult to maintain during
the 2.18 release cycle and replace it with a more popular game with
better, more maintainable code. To this end, we are seeking input from
our users to
.
How is the work on that coming along?
--
Jason D. Clinton
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Needless duplication of work covered by Pidgin and Ekiga (and, so far, done
better). This is a reimplementation of the wheel.
If the last two Gnome releases are any indication, we are strapped for
resources - taking on new modules that add absolutely nothing features-wise
but DO add
On 9/23/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 16:00 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
Needless duplication of work covered by Pidgin and Ekiga (and, so far,
done better). This is a reimplementation of the wheel.
Empathy is a UI around an IM platform which totally
On 9/23/07, Xavier Claessens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2007 à 16:00 -0500, Jason D. Clinton a écrit :
-1
Needless duplication of work covered by Pidgin and Ekiga (and, so far,
done better). This is a reimplementation of the wheel.
If the last two Gnome
On 9/23/07, Reinout van Schouwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Op zondag 23-09-2007 om 16:00 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Jason D.
Clinton:
Needless duplication of work covered by Pidgin and Ekiga (and, so far,
done better). This is a reimplementation of the wheel.
Are you serious? Although
On 9/23/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 04:56:34PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
It's Pidgin and it's non-inclusion in Gnome is irrelevant. Every
single
distro ships it as the pre-installed IM client for a desktop install.
For
better or worse, it's
On 9/23/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
today. Are we going to help Empathy with it's effort to some day offer a
point-for-point feature match? That's what we are discussing.
I don't believe this is what is meant with joining the GNOME project. It
is not that we do a 'oh, lets
On 9/23/07, Xavier Claessens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm pretty sure there is lots more developers working on the Telepathy
stack than on pidgin, maybe it's the other way the fragmentation
happens, pidgin developers should stop working on a dead project and
contribute to Empathy/Telepathy?
On 9/23/07, Sean Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think GIT is not a very user friendly SCM for those coming from
other version control systems. It is far too rough around the edges.
Will it get better? I am sure over time it will. But I certainly
wouldn't impose it on the multitude of
I read your message three time but I still can't figure out if you're for or
against Empathy in Gnome.
On 9/23/07, Andrew Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 17:07 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
See my other reply regarding Pidgin's de facto status as the Gnome
desktop IM
, so it's not like
they're all trying to do literally the same things. Thus any perceived
duplication of effort isn't as bad as it may seem.
-Travis
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 16:00 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
-1
Needless duplication of work covered by Pidgin and Ekiga (and, so far,
done
On 9/23/07, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Xavier
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 23:19 +0200, Xavier Claessens wrote:
Currently GNOME has no IM program at all, Ekiga does only voice andvideo
AFAIK.
Surely you haven't forgotten Gossip already. :P
FWIW, I'm extremely keen on keeping
On 9/23/07, Travis Reitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read the thread - I just responded in general. But let me get a little
more specific:
From my own perspective, I would describe the three competing
applications as:
Empathy is a general communications program based around Telepathy, and
On 9/24/07, Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* It appears to want to replace Ekiga. There appears to be no buy-in
from
Ekiga developers.
* It appears to want to replace the default IM client installed in
distros
(Pidgin).
If the consensus is that empathy is better I don't see
On 9/24/07, Peter Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So? Distros are free to package and ship GNOME components however they
see fit so long as they comply with any applicable copyright/trademark
licensing. Unfortunately, as a good analogy, most tend to ship Firefox
or Seamonkey as the default
On 9/24/07, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been working on gvfs and gio for a while, and its starting to reach
some minimal level of maturity.
As long as there is consensus on a path from gnome-vfs to gio+gvfs, I
would like to see this in 2.22. Which module are you proposing?
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we should merge the clock applet with the intlclock that Novell has written.
Why not include this in the existing gnome-panel module and avoid
having two competing clock
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you read my mail carefully (merge), that is exactly what is being
proposed here.
Two clock applets makes no sense at all, which is why we did not ship
the intlclock in F8.
Sorry, I thought you were asking for module proposal acceptance
PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:12 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
So in summary, WTF is Telepathy and Topaz and why should I care? (Or
for the tin-foil-hat brigade: why does Nokia/Collabora care about this
so much?)
From http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/:
Telepathy
The gnome-games SVN has been branched for the 2.22 stable series.
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Thank you for doing this hard work. Dan, too.
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, now the code reached a
functional state and I've just merged the new-gnome-session branch in
trunk. Vincent Untz and I will be working on making the new code shine
for
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Christian Persch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This single back-end will be * WebKit *.
Hoping this is not an April Fool's joke, also. +1
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A bling hackfest would be a good one--given our competition from the
KDE folks as of late.
I can think of at least a dozen little projects all over Gnome that
fall in this category.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So if you can think of a topic that would
Hi,
For Gnome Games 2.24, I would like to have an optional
hardware-accelerated Gnometris theme. This would be enabled by
default on installations where glxinfo reports Direct Rendering:
Yes. All of the old themes will continue to be present and used as
fall-backs when the hardware is not there.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. It does not use Cairo;
The implementation that I'm proposing will blit Cairo-rendered
surfaces to textures using cluttermm. I couldn't make pretty, scalable
2D graphics without Cairo. So, they complement
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Adam Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 18:59 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I do not think it is a problem for PolicyKit to be an external
dependency for GNOME. However, there will probably be people at Sun
working to #ifdef out PolicyKit code in the modules that tend to get
shipped with
gnome-games 2.22.2
==
This service release contains fixes for build problems related to Python and
a few crashers.
A handful of fixes to Aisleriot are specific to the Maemo platform.
Aisleriot:
- Don't crash on double click (Vincent Povirk, Christian Persch, Bug #443307)
gnome-games 2.22.2.1
This is a brown-paper-bag release to fix a crash-on-start in GLChess.
GLChess
- Fix our sys.path usage (Jason Clinton, Josselin Mouette, Bug #524665,
Bug #528953)
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Clasen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was pointed out to me that
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree/ExternalDependencies still
lists cairo 1.2.6 as minimum version.
I recently bumped the cairo dependency in GTK+ 2.13 to 1.6 (it already
was at 1.5.2
gnome-games 2.23.3
==
This development release incorporates a few critical bugfixes. No new features
over the previous 2.23.1 have been added.
Overall:
- Set AM_MAINTAINER_MODE (Josselin Mouette, Andreas Røsdal, bug #53255)
- Stop distributing generated defaults.py (Robert
2008/6/12 Xavier Claessens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I hope this will help the adoption of Empathy for GNOME 2.24.
-1
(I haven't said anything during the 2.24 release cycle. I just reviewed the
application as it stands at version 0.23.1 and I believe that it simply is
not ready to be included.
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Emmanuele Bassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 23.04.2008, 10:23 +0100 schrieb Emmanuele Bassi:
Le lundi 21 avril 2008, à 17:10 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
Clutter is already
gnome-games 2.23.4
==
Gnibbles:
- Improved AI search algorithm. Solves AI problems with level 15 (ais523)
- Fix problem where worms crash on the starting square of dead worms
(ais523)
Gnometris:
- code clean up (Jason Clinton)
- fix compiler warnings (Jason Clinton)
Sudoku:
I know that a lot of discussion around this topic will be taking place (in
smoke filled rooms) at GUADEC but for those of us who can't afford to make
the trip, some of this conversation needs to be had here on this mailing
list (and pointedly not on foundation-list on which many developers are not
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:57 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
2. The Giant Rift in the Gnome community over Mono has to end. I hate
Mono as much as the next guy but it's quite apparent now that some
really cool stuff
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/6/21 Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And there's a discussion about it already, there's even a BoF at GUADEC
around the topic.
PGO is the wrong place for that discussion and as I said in the first
sentence of my
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Cody Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:47 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
I don't see what Gnome Main Menu is doing in your anti-Mono
rant. Or
maybe you are and editing contributor of BoycottNovell.com
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/6/21 Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In my opinion, whatever The Next-Gen Gnome is, it isn't going to happen
until we really, really have a deep maintenance cycle going on here. That
means fixing a Handful
I have copied Epiphany's method of generating ChangeLog on make distcheck
for distribution purposes from the VCS commit log. Gnome Games 2.24 will
release this way (trunk). SVN commit messages are now canonical and should
be verbose to the point that the change is succinctly described with the bug
This is the final service release for 2.22 series. We have all worked to
back-
port fixes from trunk; especially those that cause crashers.
General:
- Fix allocator/deallocator mismatch. (Yanko Kaneti, Christian Persch, Bug
#535214)
GLChess:
- Don't disable load button on load dialog as
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus, CMake is getting more mature and stable and it already supports
VisualStudio and XCode project files conversion, lack of proper
extensibility being its only downside at the moment.
Lack of
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:47 PM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 15:57 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
Going off topic a bit: It would be really nice if PolicyKit had a proper
web page and mailing list. It's too important for information on it to
be so fragmented.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:03 AM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So maybe you just haven't tried hard enough.
Fuck you.
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/22 Rob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Rob,
Just as a quick note, Jason's problem is completly a debian unstable
packaging issue, as far as I can tell.
Care to eloborate, why and what the actual problem actually
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that's your policy, then you need to patch
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf
to NOT use PolicyKit in a package that doesn't have support for it. This
is--AFAICT--an upstream bug in hal that this stanza is not removed
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is the PK bits that David was discussion in his previous message that
are in the Debian hal which appears to be a security problem, if nothing
else:
http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=hal.git;a=commitdiff;h
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Dodji Seketeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BJörn Lindqvist a écrit :
[...]
There is no GNOME standard for indenting C code -- every project use
their own indentation style (unfortunately). But to reformat a file to
an indentation style many projects use, you
This should probably be done as a patch to gnome-power-manager.
Thinkpad laptops in particular already do something like this (it's
implemented in the BIOS) that does a chime to notify the user that the
laptop is still on when the lid is closed and the power cord is detached to
prevent people
0.6 was cleared for use for 2.24 but no module actually ended up using it. I
would like to request that the dependency be bumped to 0.8.2. Aisleriot now
supports Clutter thanks to the work of Neil Roberts. The gnome-games team is
committed to releasing 2.26 with some Clutter support.
For 2.26,
2008/11/1 Philippe Rouquier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
We'd be interested in having brasero integrated into the GNOME desktop.
+1, a wonderful application. n-c-b should be completely removed.
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Why was Gnome Games omitted from the release notes? This was the worst
possible release that could have been left out. There are more changes in
dependencies and packaging in this release than any other point in my recent
memory.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Luca Ferretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* a little mess with clutter stuff: we have clutter in
gnome-external-deps-2.26 (0.8.2 targz) and in gnome-2.26 (svn
trunk) and clutter-0.8 (svn branch) as well as a lot of
clutter-XXX-0.8:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
That isn't a contest. It is a survey.
Please don't read more in to my email than I intended. There's no need
to get defensive.
http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/survey/first-picks-permutations.png It
seems to me that a lot of
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk wrote:
Elijah Newren did an initial analysis of the data. His analysis also
includes
the survey questions and answers. Find it at:
http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/2009/01/03/gnome-dvcs-survey-results/
This is pretty decent
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Carr john.c...@unrouted.co.uk wrote:
I'm not a complete idiot - if it was going to be a degraded,
bastardized form of Git I wouldn't waste my time on it. I suppose I
might be an evil genius stalling for Bazaar DS9 to be written (sorry
for the very bad joke
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zee...@gmail.com wrote:
How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to
help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be
able to
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
I can commit that much time as long as there's clear delegation of
work by--preferably--the sysadmin team. I don't want to sit on a
committee that does a lot of deciding and no actual doing.
What do you mean with
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote:
bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
Yes, it does. This is not an issue.
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Robert Carr ca...@rpi.edu wrote:
I was not planning to do this until .28, however a nice Clutter game
written in Seed was merged in to gnome-games today, and there is some
interest in being able to include this in .26.
I would like to propose Seed
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Johan Dahlin jo...@gnome.org wrote:
The language is pretty different, SpiderMonkey supports quite a few
/language/ extensions which JSCore doesn't.[1][2][3]
s/doesn't./doesn't yet./g
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote:
The APIs will certainly not automatically be the same. There are lots
and lots of little decisions you have to make when you bind gtk. If just
one of these differ then they won't be compatible.
It's not clear to me why
Gnome Games has bumped the GGZ dependency from 0.0.14 to 0.99.5 due to
this library breaking API. It appears that no distro. (at least Debian
and Fedora) has decided to do versioned soname for libggz so we are
forced bump dependency to continue to be able to build in these
distros. See bug
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
Gnome Games has bumped the GGZ dependency from 0.0.14 to 0.99.5 due to
this library breaking API. It appears that no distro. (at least Debian
and Fedora) has decided to do versioned soname for libggz so we
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le dimanche 18 janvier 2009 à 14:52 -0600, Jason D. Clinton a écrit :
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com
wrote:
Gnome Games has bumped the GGZ dependency from 0.0.14 to 0.99.5 due
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote:
Oh, is that so?
This is some old Topaz mockup:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/20/70003494_668cfdc0dd.jpg
Your attitude is making it really hard to take sides with PA. Yes,
it's *the* only way forward at the
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Damien Sandras dsand...@seconix.com wrote:
Perhaps pulseaudio developers could try ekiga before we write a
pulseaudio plugin for it ?
Lennart's last blog post on the matter[1] indicated that we should be
using alsa--not writing pulseaudio plugins for our apps.
Okay to bump official depends on Clutter and Clutter-GTK from the
0.8.x API to 0.9/1.0 API? I fully expect it to stabilize and have a
1.0 release before 2.28. Also, Clutter Cairo is now part of Clutter.
Also, it's unclear from reading the archives but is libcanberra
blessed now? Planning on using
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:54:58PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
Okay to bump official depends on Clutter and Clutter-GTK from the
0.8.x API to 0.9/1.0 API? I fully expect it to stabilize and have a
1.0 release before 2.28
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Adam Schreiber sa...@clemson.edu wrote:
GNOME has been accepted as a GSoC project for 2009. If you're
interested in being a mentor and/or reviewing student applications,
make your way to [1] and sign up.
As far as I can tell, students have to start submitting
Now that 2.26 is out and we've begun to work on 2.28, I want to get
this out early so that no one feels like this was a last minute
surprise. This has been a year in the making and this development
cycle appears to be the right time to put some polish on our new game
engines and make them the
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:21:48PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
This is not a proposal or RFC. This is what is happening; I am merely
make it abundantly clear well in advance of it being released to the
general public
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.fr wrote:
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:28 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
On 03/24/2009 08:47 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
Using Compiz to create a GNOME desktop using GNOME applications, the
GNOME control-center, and so forth will of
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
You are missing the remote desktop scenario here. This is not only a
matter of working on old hardware, being able to run gnome smoothly on
a thin client solution through XDM, or VNC, or whatever is also
needed.
VNC is not
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Matthias Clasen
matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote:
good idea to sync the eggsmclient code in the modules that use it for
2.26.1, which seems to be at least the following:
...
gnome-games
Done on master and gnome-2-26
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tristan Van Berkom t...@gnome.org wrote:
Sure,
on the other hand projects with ChangeLogs that are hand-tended
to are, in my personal experience richer than logs of arbitrary commits,
if only by the simple virtue of forcing you to spend time caring for it.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Kjartan Maraas kmar...@broadpark.no wrote:
gnome-games stopped building in jhbuild for me since we still have
clutter-0.8.8 there and the games want to use 0.9.x from what I can see
in the logs.
The request was made Mar. 17th with no objections. So, it's
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com wrote:
clutter-gtk 0.9 is not yet available. Yet gnome-shell requires
clutter-gtk 0.9 to build, so you currently have to build it from git
master.
Might it be better to wait until clutter-gtk 0.9 is released before
jumping
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote:
Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
Hrm, then what's the point of the development tarballs? :-)
providing snapshots, just like glib and gtk+ :-)
but the API might change during the development cycle, so you should be
aware of
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
It's not only a formal distinction.
Such policies do not exist just because people are bored.
It's based on bad experiences in the past.
Why are we having this argument? Is release team going to veto Clutter for 2.28?
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